Martin Lewis gives his solution for winter fuel allowance eligibility

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[@josephhodgetts136]

MPs getting £1500 heating allowance for their second home 😂 poor bloody MPs are hard done by.

[@carolinngarner3069]

I read that it was £3,500

[@lisadefries6718]

Why do they get any? Is it because they live a long way from parliament ? I think if they live within 50 mile radius of London they should get nothing no second home allowance etc. The rest of us are supposed to commute by train they can get discount on their second class annual train ticket. 😊 there thats saved the tax payer a few quid 😊

[@user-py2mf3nb8g]

The Aga in the kitchen won't run it's self

[@wylderose3878]

Should be means tested too!😨

[@andrewwood2294]

@@user-py2mf3nb8g know matter where you live they will hurt you

[@jamesbarbour8400]

How about we do away with MPs expenses on top of their already obscene £91 K salary - if they can't live on that, there's something wrong with their accountancy skills !

[@madmelwood3778]

Yep

[@Pathofplenty]

Expenses mean they life a free life for jeering in the commons after drinking subsidised liquors

[@wylderose3878]

Yes and the subsidised canteen and bar too. All should be charged at the correct rate.

[@markc5999]

Every company I have ever worked for pays expenses, why should I or anyone else be out of pocket to do my/their job? If I need to go to a meeting for work in a different part of the country to where I am based, why should I have to pay for that? Use some common sense. Also is an MP's salary really that outrageous? These are the men and women that are meant to be running the country, should they not get an above average wage? What needs to happen, is stopping MPs having second jobs and being on the boards of companies while in office. Being an MP should be your sole interest for those 5 years

[@lesjohn534]

Three course meal in the House of Commons for just over £10, according to Yhoo. An estimated £7 million food subsidies a year, courtesy of the tax payers. No need for that, for crying out loud. No reason for them not to buy their own lunch out of the pay they get. Meanwhile, the elderly, and many others, will be choosing between food and heat this winter.

[@sandrawordsworth3600]

Why do MPs get winter fuel allowance . They don’t need it

[@PaulaW-wq1kh]

Greed.

[@Lorgar64]

They don't need a lot of things. The thing is they're in charge of their own salaries. If Parliament votes on a pay rise, they get it.

[@pamelamitchell8789]

They get en allowance to pay for heating a 2nd home, ( that rent rates ect are paid for by us!) that they only use part of the year. Maybe the answer is to house them in small one bedroom flats and then pay for fuel usage when they are supposed to be there, no free London holidays for family and friends!

[@QueenBabylonnia]

@@pamelamitchell8789anyone else that goes for a job in a different area, they move there.. MPs get money to keep a second home…. They get many perks, far more than many people realise. Anyone else has declared and be taxed on every penny..

[@michaelrogers4847]

It's just another one of there fiddles. They only look after themselves.

[@maisondusuave]

I'm a pensioner I guarntee you I am not better off than a working person.

[@bertross9727]

My dad has never been so well off. Working class. You must have failed to prepare for old age.

[@paulinemccracken2262]

​@@bertross9727Not everyone has the ability or good fortune to have jobs that pay enough to save or invest for their old age.

[@CharlesBabbageTheThird]

@@bertross9727 Let's hope your dad doesn't get it. Not everyone has been able to repare for old age. I get £3 above the threshold and all I have to live on is my state pension. This means I pay towards glasses, teeth, rent and rates. I wish I didn'rt have the £3

[@MarlynMeehan]

@@bertross9727 Most of us thought we were. Even the best financial experts couldn't have forecast 30 or 40 years ago how little the pound is worth today. So called 'experts' can't even get the weather forecast right never mind finances.

[@julieknights1238]

@@CharlesBabbageTheThird nobody retiring now on full pension will get pension credit. If you rent, you may get housing benefit, but strangely, that isn't included on the "other means tested benefits" that Reeves mentioned, so no-one just on housing benefit will get it. It really doesn't pay to work, or to pay into a private pension unless you're rich.

[@Bazzer6]

No saving in reality as will cost NHS more picking up the tab of pensioners freezing and requiring hospitalisation.

[@RyanBrown-nx8dw]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@bertross9727]

Oh give over. Pay rise for nurses and teachers frozen for how long??

[@kendom33]

Problem is. It comes out of different pockets

[@BlueFlame-q6s]

Old people are stuck at home most of the 24 hours a day. Also those who have health issues, particularly arthritis or heart or blood pressure issues, need to keep warm and usually need a temperature of at least 22C

[@hedgehogwildlifejunction9119]

exactly. false accounting. typical of this government.

[@mandyrobinson76]

My mum worked all her days paid the full stamp and got a full pension she get £13,600 she can't get pension credits because she is just over the threshold so she's won't get the winter fuel payment and now she been taxed because £212 in tax because her pension is over the 12570 tax threshold so now she's 500 down all this because she worked all her life bloody disgusting 😑

[@beecee2205]

thats what happens when your mothers tax allowance is frozen year after year by the previous government.

[@lizvickers7156]

Me and my partner are living off my works pension of 600 pounds a month, 250 pounds for bills and the rest for food and electric. My partner just does a part time job and not regular work. I have lived all my life without heating from when I grew up till now at nearly 65. I don't want central heating in my house, we just have one oil less electric free standing radiator in the living room and that's it. If we do get cold we put extra layers on and that's fine. I have gotten accustomed now to the cold and couldn't think of anything worse than having central heating.

[@KevinSmith-ki7yl]

I’m in the same boat £15 ,500 pay about a £1,000 of that in tax and can’t claim a fkn penny.

[@rustysmith3565]

mandyrobinson76 : There's a lot of us in exactly that situation, I'm frustrated and angry but what can I do ? Vote Reform and hope they actually do what they say they will.

[@robwakelin5559]

Beat me to it

[@JohnOldham-wx4nb]

MPs don’t need it

[@phil.f.9930]

Subsidised breakfasts, and heating allowance on property in London. Even secret Santa fills his sack with perks

[@chumpey]

Because they’re not retired 🤨

[@rogerphelps9939]

You do realise, don't you, that those expenses have tto pay for a constituency office and staff. Not cheap.

[@yvonnedouglas4637]

Giving other Countries so much money, and not looking after your own people, is just madness.

[@AquaMan-pz7ld]

Absolutely agree👍charity begins at home👏👍

[@ead9726]

Britain is going back to Dickens time, if we are not there already😡totally shocking. Something needs done and quickly, but we will not hold our breath!

[@JustinThyme007]

FOOL. It's only sent to other countries - they take 10% - and then the rest gets sent back to the off shore accounts of those who voted to send it. Check out Z's wealth in the Ukn. Check out a senator personally flying to the Ukn with a hard copy document listing the voters and, presumably their account numbers. All of this in on M$M.

[@emilysweet9082]

Not madness, absolutely disgusting. It just enforces the proof that this government doesn't have its indigenous people's welfare at heart.

[@annmariecollins6652]

Was that from the BNP? EDL or Britain first forum?

[@nigelr.6418]

My dislike of ALL politicians gets deeper the older I get . Rachel Reeves and labour are a disgrace . My wife and I do not need the winter fuel allowance to heat our home but many people do . She has no shame .

[@cyberash3000]

See I'm glad the richer people arnt gett9ng the allowance. My hatred of all boomers aside

[@ster2600]

You literally just explained the logic behind the policy. You don't need it, so you won't get it. Those who do need it will. It's not that hard

[@davidhodgson3901]

Dear me. You hate Labour but you don’t need the fuel allowance that you receive? Eh?? Think about why Reeves is considering doing this in the budget. The Tories cut NI by 4% to find a few votes but it was completely unfunded. Reeves has to do something after the Tories salted the earth for the next government.

[@topfuelteddy]

​@@ster2600The simple world of simple people .

[@Linda-u5x]

I suppose you give it to charity then?

[@graceperry2623]

It makes a difference how many people are living in a property when it comes to paying for heating. I am 75, live on my own, not entitled to pension credit. Heating my home would cost the same if there were two incomes.

[@abdell75roussos]

Sounds like you need a new government who cares about the people who paid into the system.

[@Doggieplaygo]

@@abdell75roussoswe don’t need a government we need caring communities

[@ParisPickering]

It’s awful they have done this to pensioners . My wife is older than I am , so she is not able to claim pension credit either . But I have looked on the Dwp website and if you claim other benefits like universal credit or some others you will still be eligible for the winter fuel payment . I don’t know if this helps you Graceperry 😊

[@CharlesBabbageTheThird]

@@abdell75roussos They want us gone

[@pamvarnsverry2444]

Time for a lodger perhaps - good company and £7,000 ish a year tax free.

[@lightningspirit2166]

Starmer labour are a disgrace to the poor and elderly ......😅😮

[@wendybrierley5412]

Now we know Betrayal - thanks to those who voted for them

[@Robin-lz5ct]

never trust the Labour party, worse than the Tories towards working people

[@gherkamum]

Before Election Starmer said "Winter Fuel payment" is safe under Labour......Lie Lie Lie

[@saxav88]

At the moment pensioners living on more than £11300 a year stand to lose the winter fuel allowance. The minimum legal wage is £11.44 per hour. The standard working week is 40 hours a week. 40 x £11.44 = £457.60 a week or £23759 per year. In other words Rachel Reeves thinks that a pensioner who may be living on LESS than HALF the legal MINIMUM wage for a standard working week is 'wealthy' enough to lose the winter payment !

[@lesleysidhoum1779]

It is a disgrace .i completely agree .

[@gaz4276]

The Government keep saying pensioners are living too long, just an evil underhanded way at reducing the number of pensioner over the cold winter months whilst the MP are nice and toasty with their heating allowances for their second home outside of Parliament.

[@robertadowns217]

Absolutely disgraceful!!

[@ZenaHerbert]

Anyone on the basic 'old' State pension gets a magnificent £9,000 per annum. Losing £300 is a serious matter.

[@sunshine-qk8qe]

My cousin is on the old state pension as born before 1953 , she receives just over £ 8,.000 a year , and topped up with £13...00 a week Pension credit which comes to around nine thousand three hundred and twenty six pounds . Bur her neighbour who was born in 1957 receives over £ 3'000 a year more , that is £60.00 a week more , so can afford to pay for her own utilities without any hardship .

[@patriciaclark6171]

MPs allowances need an inquiry to verify amounts..

[@iamhereagain24]

Due to some of the shady claims some years ago, someone was appointed to oversee. They ensured she lost her job! The concept is fair to ensure anyone can afford to become an MP. But now MPs who have always lived within reasonable commuting distance from London are able to purchase a second home and we pay the mortgage, furniture, utilities (including heating) and travelling expenses. There were some restrictions placed on employing family members. We pay for electronics, usually updated before an election. Tightening the rules about MPs expenses would cover a lot of the money needed to reinstate the pensioners allowance for heating. Why are they not paying their heating from their salary like the rest of us? Why when their time as an MP ends are they allowed to keep the second home we have paid for?

[@juliegale3863]

Martin Lewis, what a wonderful man. My sister-in-law was 20 pence over from getting Pension Credit. In her 80s and a carer for her sick husband but cannot get her fuel allowence

[@janetcw9808]

This I can believe. The one time that we applied for benefits when our child was wee, we were 45p over the earnings criteria.

[@SMariaKS]

@@janetcw9808Same with us.

[@mechtechmechanical1571]

can you give 40 pence away to charity on a weekly bases and claim that you don't receive the 20pence each week as you give it to charity.

[@ElaineParr]

I personally know five people in exactly the same position…..literally pence.

[@lizmacleod8903]

Martin Lewis, A National Treasure ❤🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

[@paulinemccracken2262]

Or Labour apologist?

[@zetectic7968]

I know a pensioner who is just £2-85 a week above the Pension Credit threshold. So not only will lose the winter fuel allowance, has lost free NHS dental also now has lost the Council tax exemption & has to pay £100 per year. They are worse off after the last pension rise that meant the lose of Pension Credit. There is something wrong if an increase in the state pension makes you worse off & that is without the cost of living increases.

[@eugeneoneal3034]

Claim form HC2 as I did. I retired last February, single claimant.

[@JustinThyme007]

All by design

[@rolandcollins7386]

I think they should ban all MPs heating allowance. They have had a good pay rise, they don’t need their heating allowance

[@131bren]

I agree but they should also ban ALL their allowances, our taxes are paying for that, they get enough in wages.

[@arthurmackrell8154]

OAPs on Attendance Allowance, with a disability, are mostly house bound and require the heating on 24/7. They need the heating but are now being robbed.

[@spotononspot4187]

You do not get the fuel allowance on Attendace allowance, as it’s not classed as the same as pension credit, pip, and other benefits! Which is totally ridiculous, because as a disabled person living mostly at home need the heating ! It does not make sense, my pension is just over £11,000 a year , l cannot get pension credit as my husband earns slightly over £300 a week! So l am stuffed!

[@bertross9727]

You can't run a household on what £24k/year?? Spoilt pensioners expecting the earth.

[@karenshanley487]

Don’t get WFP on pip either!

[@CharlesBabbageTheThird]

@@spotononspot4187 I get £3 above the threshold and all I have to live on is my state pension. This means I pay towards glasses, teeth, rent and rates. I wish I didn'rt have the £3

[@Bluediamond200]

@@karenshanley487ohh I thought they did as my neighbour always has his heating on all day he’s on pip.

[@user-cs1dt2xw4c]

Politicians i detest them all.

[@user-py2mf3nb8g]

They couldn't do any other job....

[@KevinSmith-ki7yl]

Dregs of the earth.

[@foxstrangler]

@@user-py2mf3nb8g They can't do the one they've got.

[@DJ-XTRM]

It is purposeful gaslighting to destroy British society and moral.

[@ep1929]

​@@user-py2mf3nb8gmany of them have two jobs!

[@pamcullen537]

Having worked all my life and not claimed anything, now well into pensionable age I put money aside to soften the blow of retirement. What that means is that these meagre savings are being used to help pay bills etc and is rapidly being eaten away. Because of savings I’m not eligible for any type of help and wouldn’t apply anyway but stopping the winter payment is insulting to those who have paid for years into the ‘system’ and watching people who haven’t made any contributions at all be given so much is sickening

[@pamvarnsverry2444]

There is a threshold for savings you can hold and still recieve pension credit. You do need to be proactive and claim and that`s the biggest block for people - many just want money paid into their banks without any action on their own part. Go claim you might be surprised at the help that is out there.

[@pamcullen537]

@@pamvarnsverry2444 Thank you for your advice, I will investigate

[@tomalex4806]

So you wouldn't claim for help anyway but you expect to be handed the winter fuel payment which is a free government hand out? If you are entitled to claim for government help then claim it especially if you're struggling, there isn't any shame in claiming any government help if you need it REGARDLESS if you're on benefits, what do you expect people to do sit there and rot because they haven't worked?

[@pamcullen537]

@@tomalex4806 My whole point was that I don’t claim benefits and never have. I’ve paid into a system that I believed would help me in my later years. I wish no harm to those who are suffering hardship and am sure there may be the means of support for them. While I fully appreciate that a certain demographic of wealthier people do not necessarily need the winter fuel payment there is a proportion of those who are just outside the needing social help and wish to not be a burden on an already stretched system, but at the end of the day we have certainly paid our dues unlike others

[@JustinThyme007]

​@@tomalex4806 I hope that you don't reach old age

[@deerobins9086]

We are not wealthy pensioners, we are just over the limit so do not qualify for the winter heating allowance. Now we are told the cost of heating is now going up again. We both have heart conditions.Well done Rachel Reeves and Kier Starmer. I am so glad I didnt vote for you. Can you also tell me how train drivers, who are very well paid, are now planning more train strikes this winter. This country needs less wealthy members of government who are able to relate to ordinary people to be making decisions. The House of Lords provide the wealthy with a £300 daily allowance just to turn up. The best food and wine for their free lunch. Get rid of this corrupt bunch of grifters like Baroness Mone who made a fraudulent claim of many millions selling sub standard protection for NHS staff during the pandemic and she is still benefitting from her dishonesty. Change is needed.

[@terrykirkland4452]

Typical Tory voters if they hadn't crashed the economy we wouldn't be talking about this

[@friedaelizabethchorlton8654]

Thank you for your sense and sensibility Martin. You are a humane and compassionate man.

[@dennisdearden2652]

Our Standing Charges and VAT are way more than the actual amount of gas and electric daily used.

[@dh2032]

same was really shocked on time left the house empty for like two, month and when I came back posties delivered gas, electric and water bill, was expecting nice surprises open them as house most empty, I checks thing where all right that sort stuff, want total empty the hole 2 months, but, nothing switched, and getting bill for about £100, so that £300, for nothing? what great business to be in, the pay for service, and when don't want the service still pay for it?

[@maureennewman905]

I get roughly £14000 a year income MP’s get £15000 a year allowance for heating , it a disgrace . I live alone which also doesn’t help as it costs the same to heat your home

[@dianefarnden8577]

@maureennewman905 I think you should check your facts. Non-London based MPs can claim for utility bills for secondary accommodation when they work from home in order to carry out their job away from their private accommodation. They have an overall price-cap which includes their constituency office.

[@moleyfish54]

I am above the limit to claim pension credit but not by much. Last year I received a winter fuel payment of £500 from a tory government, this year £0 and it defies belief that it's a Labour government that is punishing the elderly in such a cruel way. I've always voted Labour, but never again.

[@cynthiastogden7000]

You can claim pc if you are over the figure, they pay it pro rata. At least you get something. Better if you can get guaranteed pc.

[@K9Weddings]

Multi millionaires don't need it but how many pensioners are multi millionaires? This is going to punish those pensioners who did the right thing throughout life and saved and invested. Meanwhile the politicians will continue to award themselves salaries that are greater than inflation.

[@dibdab101]

but surely if you can afford it you should pay for it?...that is usually how things work.

[@joemcdowell107]

Why should you work all your life /save to be penalised by every government. People who never worked can claim everything no wonder they don't want to work

[@tomalex4806]

Exactly why should those who are wealthy get free government hand outs. The people struggling should be getting it only ​@@dibdab101

[@user-ul9ub5zi4q]

Just got back £169.50 of the winter fuel allowance this Labour government has stolen from us, iv'e cancelled my bbc licence fee.

[@SusanWilliams-fg1ch]

Me too!!😂

[@jamesjamesdavis5050]

If all Pensioners did the RIGHT thing, from the beginning, by not saving or paying into any pension scheme then, in the end, they will all be poorest together and on tax credits and the State will take care of them. That’s a fantastic message for Government to send out to the population.

[@bertross9727]

Why, if pensioners pay into pensions their whole life, do we apparently need mass migration to supplement the working population? They've supposedly already paid for their retirement?! Pensions really are a scam.

[@ster2600]

No, saving up for a private pension is still worth it. We're talking about £300 / year, if you save for a decade or so you'll get thousands

[@jackmchammocklashing224]

I made the mistake of taking a small pension I now get less pension, than my friends who used their cash against the wall in the local working mens club get in benefits

[@jamesjamesdavis5050]

@@ster2600 : Understand that you approve the comments made. People who are responsible, like you, and who do the right things, to secure their future pensions in later lives, are the ones being targeted and punished by the Government.

[@ster2600]

@@jamesjamesdavis5050 All working-age benefits are means-tested. Why shouldn't pensioner benefits be? Why is it one rule for us and one rule for them? They get favourable treatment despite contributing nothing to society, except overloading our NHS services and mooching off working age people via their pensions

[@johnholkham2420]

Should be paid universally and then recovered via tax code from richer tax paying pensioners . Ie 40% tax payers 100% recovery, sliding down to about £20,000 income where it would be paid in fall . Martin always speaks common sense far more than politicians.

[@pamela1952]

My thoughts exactly, but I would want the income of 2 pensioners together to be 2 x £20,000

[@johnwalls7434]

Yes, this is the fair way, definitely not the Council Tax band. There are lots of pensioners on low income with high CT and no it’s not the easy option to sell up.

[@terryhoath1983]

No ifs, no buts. If we are going to have the thing at all, it should be universal. Child Allowance (for some reason, referred to as a benefit, these days) should be universal. The number of people living on the edge of this is huge, people who will go without, and others who are entitled but won't or can't fill in the forms. A Gordon Brown style bureaucratic nightmare ! Better still, how about scrap it altogether and just have an as-of-right increase in State Pension. Let us also see the abolition of the standing charge. Mine has quadrupled in the last few years. It just defeats any attempt to reduce waste. Why bother when the standing charge is so high. If the grid is not to collapse because of the fuel demands of immigrants, and the self-satisfied rich with their very, very, dangerous firebomb EVs, then the native population have got to cut back.

[@terrykirkland4452]

That's the perfect way to fairness. Wish you were my MP

[@billywoodward584]

I've always voted for the Labour Party, mainly because they usually help people like me unfortunately not anymore, I'm 72 years old and disabled and energy cost are already to high, the cost of my disability is very very high, my mobility is very restricted, my heart and lung problems along with my arthritis mean I need help travelling, I can't travel on public transport and Taxis are too expensive, and I am not eligible for tax credits, this year has been difficult enough already especially after struggling to recover from COVID19. If anyone in the Labour Government reads this you won't be surprised that I won't trust or vote for you ever again.

[@alyb731]

I can’t believe anyone voted for them. 😡

[@kennethcartwright8561]

@@billywoodward584 Ditto except I also have Terminal Cancer but I was a Postman so get a Royal Mail pension

[@valerieellen2402]

​@@kennethcartwright8561 So very, very sorry. May God bless and heal you mightily. 🙏❤️🙏

[@nigelhughes2947]

standing charge for electricity has increased massively , now nearly 90p a day , that's your winter fuel allowance gone and not any electric use !!!!

[@karter5351]

What's the average cost of treating an elderley person, admitted to hospital with hypothermia, ambulance call out, treatment in A&E, say a two week recovery and stabilisation?. Darn site more than £300 for sure

[@bertross9727]

Sensationalist nonsense.

[@257ian]

I've heard that the energy companies have made £470B profit since 2020. So they languish in the riches that we pay them! If there were any empathy and humanity in those companies, wouldn't they want to help the poorest of us and pay back even half of that money to the consumer? The Greedy hate us Poorer citizens.

[@matty_mcmattface]

"If there were any empathy and humanity in those companies" - is one of the causes of this issue; other than government policy. You clearly understand the situation so I know you aren't naïve, and you speak up for the poorer so I know you speak from a pure place. Commercial companies will (usually) make as much profit as possible under the rules provided by the government. I haven't checked myself but I accept your figure on profits - which means the government will be taxing that. That amount of profit would imply a massive operating turnover, I'd suggest that would imply an overly bloated organisation (similar to public sector - but with the government able to mostly offload responsibility) so a huge number of staff each paying taxes to the government. We pay tax on our energy so the higher the bills are the more revenue goes to the government - just the same as with vehicle fuel. The government, through the MSM, partly blames Russia for the price increase; Russia never stopped selling - the UK choose to stop buying. (policy box ticked) Despite the government being solely responsible for for these price increases they try and gaslight us to think that the global market supply & geo politics (as presented by the Western MSM) are the cause of insecurity in the market as the reason to put our faith the wind blowing or the sun shining (policy box ticked) If I were a cold hearted energy company executive or self-serving politician; it's hard to see how I would behave any differently 🤔

[@pamvarnsverry2444]

Warm Home Discount via your utility company.

[@gregdoull1190]

Should never ever have sold off our utilities. In whose pockets did that money go ,

[@jonathanburson4994]

That’ll be the companies that extract oil and gas and not the suppliers to your home. Those comapanies are being taxed 75% of their UK profits and talk of it going up to 78%. That £470bn (if accurate) will be on global profits and not UK though. Suppliers for example Octopus made their first ever profit last year at £203m - if you start taxing them at 78% their customer service and innovation will disappear overnight

[@matty_mcmattface]

@@jonathanburson4994 I'd advocate less tax throughout the supply chain for the benefit of all customers. Not singling out Octopus (but as you mention them for example) they are just middle men - like the other retail suppliers. They don't innovate and they don't treat customers any better than their competitors.

[@mia76c57]

If they can give Child Benefit up to an income of £80k, why not Winter Fuel allowance on pensions with an annual income under £20k. I will be one missing out on pension credit as I would get state pension and predicted (current forecasts) to be paid £24-32 per week on my workplace pensions. I’m hardly going to be a wealthy pensioner.

[@kimmeddies6689]

And you have a choice in having children but not getting old

[@sandrapember2290]

Disabled pensioners used to get WFA ........ now they don't . The state pension never used to be classed as a ''benefit '' , now it is . There used to be one state pension , now there is 2 , with the oldest , pre 2016, pensioners getting far less . Wouldn't it be more cost effective to have just one state pension ? The oldest single household pensioners are being penalised for doing'' the right thing ''all their working life by doing without and saving for their retirement . Now find themselves above the Pension Credit threshold .

[@user-cv3wx3cn4n]

Thank you so much Martin you are so right. Pensioners just over pension credit often by only pence are those most hurt . Many of us worked all our lives from age 14 or 15 . Because of this we often get no other benefits . How can they think those of us who might get only £2 a month over pension credit can be wealthy.

[@happygardener3990]

I don't think it's being done on the basis of being wealthy; it's being done on the quickest and easiest way to make savings so that they can pay the public sector workers the agreed pay increases without needing to publicly borrow the money. The savings the Govt is making will affect every single person in the UK and those not yet down for losing money will get their rude awakening in the October budget.

[@seewhatifound]

Why are standing charges going up at all. They increased it significantly at the last Ofgem rebasing. Any pensioner with income less than the national average wage should get it.

[@skyfall9243]

Remove the winter fuel allowance but imagrants living in hotels with free heating that’s ok . Even tho these pensioners have payed into the system all there life

[@amandaharrison1547]

I am registered as vulnerable, as i have Severe osteoarthritis, & Anxiety , i live alone & need heat. I am on Attendance allowance as i need help, & yes live in Surrey & get council tax reduction as i am single. I am with EDF & give monthly readings. But refuse to have a smart meter as i would rather read the meters myself. This is utterly upsetting of this government . Many people will die this winter .

[@magnolia7277]

You can submit your own readings regularly when on a smart meter to keep it up to date.

[@MaryBransfield]

My husband and I both only have State pension but pension credit can only be granted if joint weekly income is less than £325.00 per week two state pensions added together means we are over that amount. A friend has said her pension credit is just under £19 per week but she will get an additional 16.67 per month (£3.85 per week) winter fuel allowance and she gets almost all her rent paid and little to no council tax because she lives alone. Therefore because my husband and I have remained married and live together we are penalised and have to pay full rent and council tax and no winter fuel payment this year because we cannot claim benefits. Is this really what working and paying taxes for 50 years gets you? Asylum seekers, illegal immigrants etc etc get more government hand outs and that is where the money to fill the black hole the chancellor has needs to be taken from. Stop people working in UK claiming child benefit for children living in other countries. Stop paying heating allowances etc., for MP’s second homes. When deciding to stand for election they are aware they might need somewhere to stay whilst attending government duties in London and their salaries reflect that so never mind giving them all salary increases use that to fill the black hole.

[@DeniseFord-d6m]

@@MaryBransfield we are in the same boat. Me and my hubby get £884.80 a month state pension. So will not get the winter fuel allowance. x

[@ethalminiellis3032]

Thank you, Martin!. Together with my neighbours who, like myself, are pensioners, we live in 2 bedroom bungalows that are in council band "D". Many of us are just over the thresholds for pension credits so with your scheme of using tax bands A to C we would still not be eligible. Can I point out that people living in flats or in the outer boroughs are probably the only areas that have A to C council bands. If you live within London or the outer London suburbs there are practically no A to C tax bands so many pensioners would still not be eligible! There was a reason why bands A to D were chosen, and if the government accepts your scheme maybe they should keep to these bands. I am sure the chancellor would gladly accept your scheme because she is aware of the council bands and knows that many pensioners live in band D properties.

[@Gus0898uk]

There must be hundreds of thousands of pensioners affected by this, it is digusting what the politicians have done. When I was working I could switch my energy off during the day, now I am 78 years old it needs to be on all day, however, we have to have it on for a lower temperature, around 18 degrees.

[@michaelkibbey3957]

Why can’t they stop paying winter fuel allowance to those people living abroad in Spain etc in warm weather all year

[@user-py2mf3nb8g]

The politics of envy......

[@jackmchammocklashing224]

I lived in Gibraltar (serving in the Royal Navy) from November to Febuary we had coal sent from the UK to heat our freezing married quarters and coal fire

[@jennet388]

Well said 👏 👌 👍 🙌

[@iandodds5448]

Spain is not on the list of countries where you could get this.

[@jackmchammocklashing224]

@@iandodds5448 ;Gibraltar is BRITISH

[@b.nichols3255]

The standing charge is the real fraud. Why does it cost a higher daily amount every day now than it did a year ago? How come the electric standing charge is higher than gas?

[@bertross9727]

Standing charge is disgusting. It's like a regressive form of taxation, yet it goes straight into the pockets of these billing companies, and that is all that they are, billing companies. Another scam.

[@slider799]

@@bertross9727 Yup. This issues with proxy shell companies is never discussed. Several of them are also predatory sales pretending to give discounts and deal but in reality cost more than some of the others in the long run. Its all save £50 now and pay £150 later sort of stuff. Ironically the illusion of "choice" is the fact none of the energy companies the public actually deal with actually make any energy. This means they are only competitive in their own overheads eg sales, marketing and call centre staff. They don't even read the meters other behind the scenes companies do that. Whle things a joke.

[@katyb6979]

The solution is for MPs give up THEIR 2nd home heating allowance and stop spending millions every day on ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS!! And give the taxpayer money to those most deserving, ie British pensioners who have contributed to the system their whole lives. Get angry with Starmer’s communist rabble, it’s the only way to restore sanity!!

[@vylbird8014]

You need a sense of scale. Even if the entire asylum processing system were defunded, it'd free up at most four billion pounds a year - enough to increase pensions by a paltry 3.2%. They go up nearly that much from the triple lock anyway.

[@eljay5746]

The cap should be based on the average salary in the UK which is about £35000/yr. Any pensioner earning that amount & above should be exempt for the winter fuel allowance.

[@user-wl4cl1ph3b]

Easy to fix "Cut the migrants benefits bill to the bone" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@serenashaw-q3y]

I get a 20% discount on my council tax, as a sole occupier. However, water and energy bills are the same cost for me (with no discount) as two people, or families, with earning adults. I do not have pension credit, or a private pension. In the winter I plug in a small heat pad, and stay in bed with a book for 2 hours before I get up, putting on the same many layers of clothes I took off the night before. My heating (limited to 2 rooms) doesn't get turned on until 2.00 p.m. I despair of living through another winter - which went on for months - like that again; and highly likely to be substantially worse. I am absolutely dreading it. It is not living. It is existing in isolation.

[@sarawhitley-kinzett221]

Me too and last year some of my friends of the same age went into hospital with pneumonia because they couldn't heat their homes

[@thindad]

Standing charge is more than my usage.

[@ziggystardust3060]

Mine too. It's daylight robbery. 😮

[@lesleyhowells8966]

Agree with Martin. Even those who live eg in Spain you still get it. Ridiculous!

[@iandodds5448]

Spain is not on the list of countries where you could get it.

[@ianworley8169]

I live in Portugal and I have NEVER been eligible for the Winter fuel allowance. Despite the fact that Portuguese and Spanish houses virtually never have central heating or adequate insulation. If you ever want to know what cold feels like, come to my house during the Winter nights. I burn five tons of logs per year, at a cost of €150 per ton. That doesn't include my gas and electricity costs. To be fair, I neither need nor want the WFA. Just don't make factually incorrect statements about things you obviously know nothing about.

[@missmerrily4830]

No you don’t! Misinformation!

[@margaretwyatt6689]

They don't. ​@@iandodds5448

[@A2Z1Two3]

Maybe MPs with a second home that gets a heating allowance can take in their POOR cold pensioner constituents !

[@dweamy1]

How blumming typical to 'tax' the poor, yet again! Tax the rich, redistribute the wealth! Taxes are so unfair on the lower income families

[@ster2600]

This is not typical at all. What could possibly make you think that this is true? People with higher incomes pay way more tax

[@oneummah8484]

6th richest economy cant afford to look after its old ppl. No heating will mean getting ìll and filling hospital beds. Where's the saving ?

[@chieftandriver703]

Being spent on hotel bills, last calculated at £8-£9 million a day

[@fredmcveigh9877]

I don't mind giving up my allowances if it means that I can support another couple of thousand unfortunate passport less mid 30's to mid 40's male teenagers that have travelled all the way through Europe to seek refuge in England. Shame on you for caring about UK residents, SHAME :0).

[@Grassmonster3]

One thing that people don't realize is that pensioners on housing benefit have 65p deducted from their HB for every pound over the £218.15 per week that the government says you need to live on. This means that they are just 97p per week over the threshold for the winter fuel payment or £50.75 a year "better off" than someone on pension credit without the benefit of winter fuel allowance, free dental treatment etc. It obviously doesn'y pay to have full NI contributions !

[@denisescally7090]

Absolutely correct. It doesn't make sense.

[@RH1812]

The standing charge is a big issue that needs to be dealt with.

[@keithmartland6463]

Last winter i never used the central heating as couldn't afford to run it, and the way things are going i won't be able to afford it this winter or next, i retire next week, but will still have to work part time just to live, so will be hit with more income tax, its a no win, God help us when they have their budget and more taxes will be going up Maybe i should go to France and come back on a rubber boat and have money thrown at me!

[@Rosebud-l9p]

Can I come with?

[@margaretwyatt6689]

​@@Rosebud-l9p And me. Your boat will be full up

[@ivanconnolly7332]

From super yacht woes , to the dingy reality of the majority.

[@Bluediamond200]

I hardly ever put the heating on last year, although it was only for an hour on very cold nights, as it’s so expensive, so this year I won’t even put it on at all, blankets and jumpers or a coat, socks scarf and gloves, when it’s really cold, I live East Midlands so it does get cold, I’m 72 so do feel the cold and my flat is particularly a cold one even in summer as no sunshine gets in due to being a basement flat.

[@williamjohnstone3288]

Why do MPs get winter fuel payment allowance, when we pensioners will have to choose between eat or heat this winter ?

[@geoffbucks5803]

Stop giving MPs £1500 allowance for fuel on their 2nd homes. Means test the Child benefit, use the savings for pensioners fuel allowances across the board for pensioners. Abolish the standing charge - its a very unfair cost

[@ldoherty819]

Many will die of the cold because of this. It is EVIL.

[@user-tg7kl9zq5c]

Surely they can look at pensioners personal allowance. Those on the basic allowance should receive the winter fuel payment and those paying 40% should be excluded

[@davidellis8141]

Good idea.

[@anty66]

Makes good sense.,

[@georgejohnson1498]

Martin Lewis should be in Parliament. More use than almost anyone already there. Unfortunately governments make sledgehammer decisions that actually lead directly to death among the least well off. We expect that from the Tories, but Labour are sleepwalking down exactly the same road. Starmer needs to be reminded of this with considerable force. Indeed I hope that the small contingent of Green MPs will ask questions on this subject when Parliament is sitting again, so that we get some sense on the topic rather than lethal policy decisions. Best wishes from George

[@georgejohnson1498]

@@pamphlet3560 Advice on what? Winter Fuel Allowance, Pension Credit, or something else? I am unable to understand you point as you have expressed it. Best wishes from George

[@mtrhodesy]

Wasn't that long ago that Starmer made a point to question if the tories wouldn't touch the heating allowance, to imply that if the tories were considering it they must be criminals so their base must also be inhuman. Yet here we are with labour saying because 10-20% of pensioners who don't need it as most pensioners are millionaires, it's okay for the 80% who do can go through this sudden loss for the greater good. Hypocrisy is invisible if you think your preferred enemy is being shafted, but point out that reform is needed even in the shape of voting for anyone else not of the 2 parties and you're the fool. I lean centre to right just, but have no issue pointing out Tory BS, but the condescension from Labours base is only going to backfire. I voted Green this GE, not for their policies as most are laughable, but the main 2 needed to be stopped for all. I could of easily voted for reform, and again not because their policies speak to me and make sense, but to stop another 5-15yrs of lies dressed up as the answer to our prayers. Martin Lewis would never be allowed to join a political party as he seems fairly honest and points out simple solution, and this is to be avoided

[@johnscott-kw3bf]

Martin the only fair way is universal.How many other benefits are the pension credit people getting.I would think their disposable income is probably higher than many people who are not eligible for pension credit.Most of those on pension credit probably don't pay much tax or council tax.Free TV licence and not house repair expenses.You are not quite as brilliant as you think you are.

[@delilah-zb5xt]

no he is for means testing pensioners not anyone else he is wrong and ageist

[@StevePiner-m6x]

True he should be why is he not speaks a lot but nothing get done sorry to.Say this Martin get out there Martin and help run this country need man like u please

[@sandyellis28]

Martin’s right, universal payment to all pensioners is a huge cost & not needed. Many retired people, & not just millionaires, have great pensions, paid off mortgages, good savings & low living costs eg travel, transport, leisure etc. But no pensioner who needs it should ever struggle in cold weather. Maybe energy companies & local councils can target help. Young families with children too often struggle with energy costs.

[@jennet388]

Ofgem showing its true colours again by siding with big business and allowing all these increases. As if they havent had enough profits as it is. OFGEM IS NOT FIT FOR PURPOSE & I WISH MARTYN WOULD SAY SO TOO !!!😤😡🤬

[@norwood8888]

Hear hear!!

[@dnm4197]

Taxes are paid to look after British citizens vulnerability. NOT TO SQUANDER TAXES ON ILLEGAL CRIMINAL ENTRANTS TO YOUR COUNTRY.

[@CJR434]

Surely it should be based on the minimum wage. Which averages £25,000 a year before tax. Any pensioners below this should qualify for the winter fuel payment.

[@cafsixtieslover]

That is a very fair way of doing it.

[@Lily_The_Pink972]

Don't know how typical I am, but my combined weekly pensions are well below £400 per week, so that's about half minimum/living wage. I suspect there are many, many pensioners in the same boat so can't see the government going for that scheme!

[@wiganer9912]

@@cafsixtieslover The current amount of state pension is barely sustainable but you think it would be a good idea to almost double it? People have had their entire working life to prepare for retirement but the ones that fail to do so think that the ones of us who have should bail them out. If a 66 year old had started saving just £30 a month 50 years ago when they started work and increased that amount by 3% every year, today, assuming a 7% growth rate on average per year, they would have £250,000 which if they left it invested from age 66, assuming the same growth, would give them £20,000 a year income for the next 33 years,.....and on top of this you get state pension.

[@rachelwalker7091]

@@wiganer991250 years ago people earned around £25 per week.

[@pauline3379]

​@@wiganer9912Save £30 a month, you are joking, a lot were lucky to earn £4/£5 a week when they started work, and parents would take at least half of that from them. They were lucky if they had £10 a month left to pay for travel to work and lunch 🙈

[@lightningspirit2166]

Not all pensioners ,not on pension credit ,are well off....😮

[@alibali193]

My thoughts are that the eligibility should be withdrawn for higher rate taxpayers

[@wendybrierley5412]

My thoughts are that the country voted for the wrong Labour Party. Sunak will look after you better as he did! Now we see Betrayal! by Labour.

[@mumo9413]

Clinically vulnerable is a better phrase! My disabled child has congenital heart disease (terminal) if he gets cold, he gets critically ill, then hospital admission which costs the NHS/gov! It's not just about pensioners! My heating went on in September last yr & off in June! With boosters on cold summer days/nights! His DLA doesn't have a heating component! Just care & mobility. Mobility is taken away because we have a motability van with a ramp for his wheelchair! I served 30yrs in the NHS! Can't work now because my son need 24/7/365 observation & care! I'm dreading the winter!

[@margaretwyatt6689]

Oh gosh my heart goes out to you this country so unjust

[@suewood3030]

Message to Rachel Reeves: LISTEN to a real financial expert!! Don’t go for the easy option of targeting the vulnerable!!

[@Scipted]

I’ve got an idea everybody in the country don’t pay your bill until they lower the cost.😂

[@257ian]

The majority of people are too frightened not to pay. I stopped paying my Council Tax 14 months ago, which is an Illegal Tax...look it up.

[@Scipted]

@@257ian 👍 if everybody stuck together the people would have the power but your right people are frightened.

[@suedavey8711]

@@257ian Well done. We should get organised.

[@elainealexander3043]

If your income is £1 above rhe threshold for pension credit tough luck no help with energy prices

[@denisescally7090]

Irony is people who qualify for Pension Credit usually haven't paid enough NI stamps in and end up getting more than those who have paid full stamps.

[@bertross9727]

Edge case, literally.

[@chieftandriver703]

How many billions are being spent on the asylum system? Or put another way, how many multimillionaires are earning more millions from the asylum system? And how many of those multimillionaires are foreign based? Follow the money

[@bertross9727]

Deliveroo and Uber are the biggest beneficiaries of irregular migration. GDP per capita has gone nowhere for 20 years. Triple lock has led to massive generational inequality.

[@vylbird8014]

Surprisingly little. Four billion a year. That sounds huge, but it's not much by government spending standards - annual state pension payments are 125 billion. So the annual cost of processing asylum claims, housing those being processed and supporting those who are successful in their application is about 3.2% the cost of the state pension.

[@user-ei3dq5uf8t]

We are being robbed

[@Tony-1971]

Last year he suggested they put another jumper on. What's the suggestion for this winter? Put another jumper on? 😂😂

[@kenco3370]

How can you cut or stop winter fuel allowance for pensioners DISGUSTING!!! I work hard for a living I pay my taxes! I’m not entitled to everything if my boiler breaks down I have to pay to get it sorted! But if your on benefits you get every free!! WHY? The system is wrong! Government are corrupt!!!

[@pamvarnsverry2444]

I don`t know anyone who has recieved boiler repairs because they claim benefits - their landlord may be responsable???

[@ster2600]

The winter fuel allowance is a benefit. It goes to people on the state pension i.e. benefits. Pensioners are the benefit scroungers of the country

[@tomalex4806]

Winter fuel payment is a free government handout - which is a benefit. And what do you want those on benefits struggling, to sit there and rot, those who are struggling to find work apply for UC to eat and pay the bills for where they live. Get off your high horse yah clown

[@brendalamont6496]

Hi Martin. Being a pensioner on a very low income but not on pension credit I find your thoughts to be absolutely the best solution. I am on band D for my council tax because of the area I live in and hope you are able to change the governments mind on the loss of this payment to all who need it. I think this payment should always have been means tested Thank you for the great job you do ❤

[@ianholland3594]

Means test all MP`s before they get a penny in expenses...it`ll never happen.

[@sniperpd9505]

I don't suppose the new residents of Downing Street need worry about their heating costs. Martyn should take a thermometer to his meeting with the chancellor to test how warm she likes to be. I keep my home ay 18c during the day and use a HWB in bed at night.

[@hugovandermeer1566]

The only eligibility criteria necessary is the one that has always been in place. Pension age citizens receive a winter fuel payment...end of!

[@jackmchammocklashing224]

Not really, Only pensioners living on less than one minimum wage of £25k Pensioners with more income than that should be able to live comfortably

[@dibdab101]

for what reason??...if you can afford it, then why should you not pay for it? that is generally how things work. what`s next? do you want your clothes and your food paid for too?

[@juliamaitland7160]

Many elderly who are dependent on the winter fuel payment will end up being in hospital and putting more pressure on the NHS not to mention the stress and distress it will cause.

[@angeladallimore8079]

Maybe that was the idea ????

[@angeladallimore8079]

Cannot believe that this lot taking the pensioners heating allowance away ,its beggers belief, Pensioners are vulnerable, and many have got many illnesses to cope with without all this causing them all this stress

[@glostergloster6945]

A far better alternative to the Winter Fuel Allowance is to pass a law to force ofgem to freeze the energy price cap as it is or lower it. Far better than funnelling state money through winter fuel allowance to prop up the energy barons profits.

[@delhog6161]

My mother is 91yrs old with dementia she gets pension credit with no savings or other income. She has just reserved a tax bill for a £179. How low can Starmer stoop this is on par with the Kremlin. Except Russia would not give illegal immigration the thumbs up.

[@pauline3379]

Surely she shouldn't be paying tax if she receives pension credit, she is below the tax threshold. You need to query that bill with hmrc. It could be a scam.

[@irenetaylopr8041]

Pensioners have paid into the system all their working lives, now they are retired surely they are entitled to a Winter Fuel Payment.

[@legdsda9342]

Pensioners are the most privileged and wealthiest people in the UK. Why do they need even more when they got all the benefits of very low house prices and highest wages? If anything they should have their entitlements slashed.

[@martynsmith8120]

Your tax and NI paid for yesterday's pensioners. You haven't paid anything towards your own pension. You are relying on tax and NI of today's working people to pay for your pension.

[@judithmorganjudyteen]

Yes, we know.That is the only system we have though.

[@Andy01833]

We’re not better off! We’re really scraping the bottom of the barrel!

[@normanchristie4524]

Why does government shy away from clawing back excess profits made by oil and gas?

[@aok1550]

“The Government needs to get the money from somewhere”. Why? When it wastes so much money elsewhere!

[@gillian9178]

How come the working living/minimum wage is around £11 an hour, this is deemed to be how much someone needs to live on today. A pensioner is on the equivilent of around £5.25 an hour if they worked a 39 hour week, how come this is seen as enough to live on today. When the national minimum wage is said to be more than double the amount someone needs to live on.

[@bertross9727]

The working week is 37.5hrs. Workers have mortgages to pay. If you're a pensioner without your own home, you get your rent and council tax paid for. My rent went up 30% this year. Get a grip.

[@gillian9178]

@@bertross9727 Your in cloud cuckoo land mate, many many pensioners do not receive housing benifit, council tax paid or any other benifits. Only pensioners that qualify for pension credit are entitled to the things you say, pensioners that dont receive these benifits have to pay full rent & full council tax & full everything else come to that. All of my 50 years working life my flat working week was 39hrs a week & still is for a lot of workers ( by the way it was 40hrs week when i started work at 15 years old in 1966 ), but based on your 37.5hrs week it punps the effective hourly rate of a pensioners income up from £5.25 an hour to a heady £5.33 hour, whoopy i wont know what to do with that extra 8p an hour. I know I can put the 8p an hour towards the £300 we have lost in heating allowance. The average energy user under the new price cap is going to see an increase of around £140 - 150 a year, pensioners increase will be closer to £500 a year. Also a couple of years back under the pandemic, the triple lock pension should of risen by 8.5%, Theres Coffee welshed on the triple lock & gave 3.1% instead of the due 8.5%. Pensioners are an easy touch for goverments, there is a total miss conception about all these so called rich pensioners, there are some very rich pensioners around. They are few & far between the 12 million pensioners that there are, there are quite a lot of very poor pensioners out of the 12 million.

[@WOLFIE-96B-UK]

No you don't! I have have to full rent and council tax, I'm £3 over the limit to claim pension credit so I get nothing.

[@user-gq2kf6bz8y]

@@bertross9727 That is not so. You only get your rent and council tax paid if your sole income is the state pension and you have no savings or other income. I have to pay my own rent and council tax as my savings are over the threshold for assistance.

[@ziggystardust3060]

​@@bertross9727Not necessarily. I'm a pensioner and I still pay around £149 per month council tax plus my rent. I can only afford to heat one room in my home and I have the heating turned down to 14°. The rest of the house is at 5° to 8° throughout the winter. (I have thermometers in every room)

[@lindalw1163]

AND my dental bill this year was almost the same as the electricity yearly bill. 200 people on waiting list for NH dentist. So my weekly bill for teeth and eyes come to around £27.87 per week.

[@lizvickers7156]

I pay 25 pounds a month for the dentists on denplan I can't understand how you pay 27 pounds a week for dentists and eyes.

[@257ian]

You should have brushed your teeth twice a day from childhood.

[@CarolEavis]

​@@lizvickers7156 I can ! A pair of glasses costs £300. Eye drops and supplements for macular degeneration cost me £25 per month on their own! Let alone dental fees ! And we don't have an NHS dentist!

[@maxrav1831]

Well if we stopped spending a fortune on accommodating young men that have no right to be here then maybe our seniors wouldn’t die from cold. I bet you the hotels are heated very well

[@SusanWilliams-fg1ch]

Exactly...

[@LONDONGUY100]

Any pensioner too poor to pay income tax, because the state pension is their sole income (we start paying tax when we go over the £12,700 pa income threshold) should keep the winter fuel allowance. It's as simple as that.

[@shamimraj2253]

How about people needing fuel allowance on health grounds?

[@stellamariayates3776]

Too expensive to administrate on that basis so there would be no saving, especially as you would have to define poor health and get reports etc.

[@paulbird3235]

Instead of getting rid of the fuel allowance, have we thought of getting rid of the billioaires. We could help them out by making them pay "THEIR" fair share of tax. WHO did this government say they were going to help out, the Michelle Mones of this country or the working class (and this does include the pensioners). WHAT A DISGRACE THIS GOVERNMENT IS. (and YES I did vote labour.

[@Rodney.HarrisFraser.]

HAVE YOU NOT HEARD OF THE ALTERNATIVE MEDIA PLATFORMS. IF YOU HAD, YOU WOULD NOT HAVE VOTED FOR THEM. YOU SHOULD FEEL GREAT SHAME. FOR YOU, WITH OTHERS HAVE CONDEMNED THE UK POPULATION. TO UNTOLD HARM. From Mr R H Fraser.

[@timporter8886]

Anyone else remember two tier keir post election promises about the labour party not putting up energy bills and they would fund that through windfall taxes, or is it just me🙋‍♂️????🤔

[@paulmott5059]

No duty on aviation fuel for private jets, it’s less than £1 per litre at Heathrow and Gatwick. How much is heating oil? Tax the poor and exempt the rich. Great advert for a new Labour government.

[@yvonnedouglas4637]

Not only the elderly but those with disabilities, neurological disorders arthritis, we need heat too, I’m 64 , 65 in March, there will be a number of deaths, but hey this Government doesn’t care,. Labour voters thanks.

[@deborahpearson2339]

Take mp’s energy allowance away from them