Are You An Intermediate Or Advanced Guitar Player?

[@MartyMusic]

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[@rockinbobokkin7831]

I think you are moving away from Advanced and into Master level. An advanced player, to me, would have instrument fluency and high strength in a style. Mastery delves into branching beyond into multiple style fluency. So, an ability to go from say, fingerstyle into a flat pick bluegrass. Fluency of all modes counts too. I think you are moving into that territory of skill. Many of the most admired performers really only have mastery of one style, but there are those mutants out there like Billy Strings, Malmsteen and John 5, who might be famous for only one style, but who are surprisingly strong in multiple styles. Your claim to fame may be as an instructor, but you are becoming a Master.

[@musicalvibes5852]

Have a small music channel about guitar covers and lessons Would really appreciate if u check it out God bless u

[@EliasFarias.]

Btw nice background Marty 👍

[@jaypi6939]

For instance,i consider my self an intermediate because i can play highway star or cliffs of dover but on the other hand i don't know much theory which i think is important

[@ceebee491]

It's crazy you mentioned James Taylor, 1st name that came to me. By the way I'm a struggling self taught Busker. 🎶🎸🎵😎

[@junocbian7874]

advance when I am alone playing in my room, beginner when playing around people.

[@sxxith]

same

[@Jerrys_missing_finger]

So much relatable reality to this statement.

[@overtonesnteatime198]

Oh man this hurts

[@darrenjs_]

Same

[@musicalvibes5852]

Have a small music channel about guitar covers and lessons Would really appreciate if u check it out God bless u

[@RC32Smiths01]

I like to think of myself as an Intermediate Advanced Beginner.

[@kesplays9929]

Bruh I know exactly what u mean 🤣

[@RC32Smiths01]

@@kesplays9929 Yeah haha!

[@michaelm4464]

Beginning to intermediately advance.

[@linheitzig6916]

I'm with ya in that group

[@chefshap]

It’s elusive isn’t it ?

[@ryanboshell6124]

Beginner with 18 years experience.

[@GroovesAndLands]

Beginner with 25 years experience! The more I learn and the better I get - the further away from being "good" I get.

[@ryanboshell6124]

GroovesAndLands that’s exactly right. Music is a philosophy, not a game.

[@simplyseven007]

Haha me too!

[@ChrisBrandsma]

One year of experience, repeated yearly.

[@jcastro99777]

The best mindset 👍 always something new to learn!

[@jomo999]

Marty: Are You An Intermediate Or Advanced Guitar Player? Me: No.

[@Decrepit_biker]

That was my first thought. No.... awww hell no...

[@harryhoodeeny5379]

jomo999 😂

[@MW-dd8vk]

This video is intriguing

[@moflyboyblanquito541]

Lol I suck. But whatever these videos help. Trying wonder wall now.

[@musicalvibes5852]

Ohhh

[@Veni1229]

FEEDBACK: When showing your audience how to play a song, at least for ME, it would be a huge benefit if you could tell us what key it's in, what the progression is in both the verse and chorus, what scale is used in the solo, and MOST of all, WHY. I'm sure there are many that just want the meat and potatoes, but, for those that want to truly understand the guitar and how to be MUSICAL when playing, I think the above would be of great benefit. Thanks for everything you do and giving your audience the chance to give our opinions and feedback.

[@markslima1557]

This is a cool response and I agree with this, though that might make the videos a lot longer for him...?

[@josephl.2398]

Check out Swiftlessons. It's a great KZbin channel that makes tutorials and also breaks down the theory in a very understandable way.

[@guitarmaninthedrum]

Interesting that Marty hasn't responded to this message as I would think that everything that you ask to be included, key, progression etc is exactly what the student guitar player needs to improve

[@josephcorsale573]

Nah chill dude you’re talking about theory. Marty has a few theory videos He also offers more vids and even in depth lessons you can pay for on his website that are like 20+ hours long. There’s other youtubers out there who have videos on it... People go to college for music theory. So it’s an in dept and way too crazy for Marty to explain in a 10minute video when he’s just trying to get people to get up, play and have fun. Good luck man. The infos out there you just need to look for it.

[@matthewokronglis6410]

I definitely agree with you, however especially with a channel like Marty Music, i dont think people are exactly coming to get a full analysis of the whole song, rather most people (I belive mostly "Begginers") come just to learn the tunes they love and not think about it too much, this might especially be overwhelming if your a begginer and you might belive that because you dont understand these concepts you cant play the song (WHICH IS NOT THE CASE). Also it would just make for a long video that could become boring to most people that just want to learn the song.

[@kevinshea3028]

I think there's a category in between intermediate and advanced that I would call "accomplished" or perhaps "sessioned" where you have mastered all of the elements that you name as advanced but have not actually created that "nitch" of creativity that makes you recognizable whether you're playing the Star Spangled Banner or Mary Had a Little Lamb. The accomplished guitarist can get on a stage with almost anyone and blend in, accompany, play along side almost anyone at the drop of a hat but may not have taken any particular style to that level of "unmistakable ". I think you can be accomplished without being advanced but probably not the other way around. I mean the following statementwith the utmost respect. "Marty is accomplished. Hendrix was advanced." Thanks Marty for all you do. I have learned more from you in the past few years than at any similar time frame ever.

[@saramulry]

I hear you on this, but most skills of any sort are measured in ‘beginner’ ‘intermediate’ and ‘advanced’. I would say there are probably hundreds of thousands of advanced guitar players in the world, but only one Hendrix. In this case Hendrix and his ilk would easily carry a different level like ‘distinguished’ or ‘legend’.

[@kevinshea3028]

@@saramulry I guess you can name it what you like but there's a difference between learning a skill and creating a palate that no one one else can even use, let alone, re-create. If you choose "advanced" then "master", that's fine by me but my point is that unlike learning a normal skillset, music, and all art for that matter have one more level that some can never get to no matter how long they try. There are exquisite paintings of flowers but Matisse "Poppies" and Van Gogh "Sunflowers" are different levels of expression that can't be taught or learned.

[@saddestchord7622]

There are a whole lot of what you call "accomplished" players out there and a lot of them might be in your favorite bands. They may not know what a mode is, or when they're using an inversion. I know players who can't tell you want key they're playing in, but they're really good and really creative, and are accomplished in terms of writing and recording songs and have toured the planet a bunch of times. The can make the sounds they want to make, but would be lost if asked to sit in with a jazz combo, metal band, or anything different than what they do. Can't really call them "advanced" because their scope is too narrow and unique to themselves, but they're still good enough that people pay to hear them.

[@kevinshea3028]

@@saddestchord7622 There are lots of musicians out there that have a following and fans that are not what I would consider advanced nor accomplished musicians. My view on this has nothing to do being a fan. One thing I have found over the years is a misconception that people seem to have. "I like it therefore it's quality". This opinion is not only incorrect and self serving but denigrates art as a whole. Best example off the top of my head were punk bands. I listened to many that I really enjoyed and loved partying to but I would never put them into any category anywhere near advanced. I can listen to a band and enjoy what they are doing while knowing that there is nothing particularly advanced musically about it. I like some bands that I know aren't technically good and contrarily, there are musicians that I know are technically proficient that I don't like. I think you are confusing opinion with genuine proficiency but many people, IMO, do that. "I like it so it's quality" or "I don't like it so it's not quality" is a prevalent opinion among many that I think is incorrect. Equally true I believe is that there are incredibly adept musicians who can play anything off of sheet music but couldn't create a child's limerick if their life depended on it. Different issue.😆

[@eleanorferrer8774]

@@kevinshea3028 I know this was posted a year ago, but I have a response... in my very humble opinion I think there are many advanced guitarists out there that may have the skill level of a master... and who even have a unique masterful palate few can recreate... but are not famous, not considered a legend, never got recognition or money, and the only reason people don't acknowledge their talent is because they were in the wrong place at the wrong time for all of that. someone can be stand out more than Hendrix in the way they play but they'll never be seen the way Hendrix was because they didn't have the money or the culture or the socialites around them to get recognized like that. so I guess to round this post out I'll end it with: so it really is just beginner, intermediate, and advanced.

[@DJC955]

I think I was an intermediate player for years, until I went back to collage in 2015 and started studying jazz & classical guitar. I'm not a shredding or technical player, but my dynamics, my understanding of chord theory to create efficient complex & necessary chords, and my ability to transpose on the spot is where I excel are what push me to an advanced player. At this point though, I find myself humbled and always looking for new challenges.

[@richardmiller3998]

My friend, after reading your comment I can tell you you are definitely advanced, I thought I was intermediate until reading your words, now I know that I'm a rank amateur. You sound proper professional

[@Iliveonthesecondfloor]

very well said compliment to yourself

[@macharlow3148]

That’s sick. Definitely need to understand chord theory more because it will allow me to play the notes that belong in chords for soloing. I’ve been practicing modes and legato technique for almost a year now so I can be a master player in my room.

[@michaelm4464]

*Herman Li has challenged James Taylor to a live Shred War*

[@dalewetzel773]

James Taylor is shyte

[@guitargrader9094]

I heard Marty doesn’t buy guitars. He stares down prestigious chunks of lumber until they turn into the guitar he wants! 🤔 💭

[@MartyMusic]

Only for the best TOAN

[@guitargrader9094]

Marty Music I also hear you can teach us how to divide by zero! 🤔 💭

[@Alastor_Moody19090]

@@MartyMusic stfu marty queersic

[@kabelomasemolazippy]

Its true, i once saw him starring down a thousand year old tree and the tree turned into a guitar body and neck..He turned his burng stare towards a piece of metal it then turning into strings and frets they all combied into a guitar...#myguitar hero

[@guitargrader9094]

@@kabelomasemolazippy I believe it! I also hear he knows a tune to play that can hack bill gates

[@TylerRolloGuitar]

What about, an in denial beginner player?

[@MartyMusic]

love it!

[@bartoudevoshaar4361]

I've been playing guitar for about 2,5 years now, and you have helped me every step of the way! Thank you very much for everything, I hope u will keep making videos for a long time!🎸🎸

[@brianreisker5041]

I have been playing guitar for 14 years or so now, and I have to say the thing that helped me the most in my playing abilities was teaching others what I was doing and WHY I was doing it. Being a guitar instructor really opens your eyes to the world of music!

[@TrevorJrHotkiss11]

I think what your talking about is the "flow state" or "being in the zone." When you are immersed to the point of almost automatic thinking. All of your actions become natural and unforced. Athletes and musicians are known for this.

[@nesta8518]

It’s like belts in karate - some students care about the colour of their (or others) belt, others just study the art

[@saramulry]

I’m self-and-KZbin taught & honestly have no idea how to “rate” myself, so this video helped. Mostly when things are brought up that I’m lost on-I realize what I need to start learning next 😅

[@FirstnameLastname-du9kv]

Music theory if you haven’t learned it already look at signals music studio and others a video for first starting out is three rules to write a chord progressions

[@ryanbrill9857]

I agree with everything you said. In my playing I always try to strive for learning new concepts and I like how you touched on that. There are so many “advanced” ways of playing that I think people overlook, (for example Wes Montgomery , Segovia, Django etc.) All different, yet many people don’t know because they box themselves in with rock. Love your channel and what you do. If someone ever asks about where to learn guitar I always recommend checking out your videos. My sincere best!

[@uspsdaveable]

I picked up a guitar 45 years ago, still consider myself an intermediate player but my goal when I pick it up was just to be able to play some Beatles songs... I reached my goal and then some.

[@harryhoodeeny5379]

Dave Standiford cool!

[@tomrabbani]

If James Taylor played through the Fire and Flames it would be called "Through the Fire and Rain"

[@MrMcwesbrook]

This is one thing that really helped me advance after learning some basic scales and barre chords. Every time I would learn a solo, I would simultaneously review/practice the scale and barre chords that fit that solo. After doing this a few times something really clicked for me and I was able to see how everything I had learned fit together.

[@nikberube4257]

Id like to see more videos concerning playing with other people. Thank you!

[@Pratikmayekar4]

We wanna see more of Marty performing!! I watched these 2-3 live performances and they were amazing! Would love to see more!!

[@gunnergunter9425]

Sometimes I can make a C chord without looking and on the first try!

[@jonstephenson5436]

This is an awesome topic, because I think a person can become super advanced in a couple of those areas that are really interesting to them, and still be a little deficient in others. Take me for instance. I always wanted to play lead. I jumped right in learning blues, and made a ton of progress. Within 2 years I could play steppin out, and hideaway note for note from the Clapton/blues breakers album. I kept on from there learning all the scales I could, and how they relate as modes, etc. Have a pretty good theory grasp, and good enough feel/rhythm that I can play well with others. I’ve realized though, that from not learning all that many riffs/songs, I kinda suck at recognizing how to jump in on the right beat. Also, ear training never was really a priority, other that what I picked up just from playing. So, now I feel a little like a beginner again working on those two things that I overlooked for years. Each path is a little different I guess.?

[@curtvogue5720]

Great stuff Marty! As Miles Davis said "Master the instrument, master the music, then forget all about that and just play!" A couple of additional things that might help folks in their journey... record yourself! Whether you're in a band or playing alone, record your playing so you can critique it from a different perspective. You'll be surprised.... "Wow that sounded really good right there!" along with "Ouch I butchered that transition and didn't even realize it!" Playing with others (especially musicians better than you) can be huge. As Marty said, always be learning. You might be able to rip through a harmonic minor scale at warp speed but can you do vibrato on one note that will make everyone stand up and notice (a'la Buddy Guy or BB King)? Always be listening and don't let yourself be jaded by styles of music. Yeah you may be totally into metal but you can learn a lot from the country players too for example. Finally be a musician not just a guitar player. Feel and touch is where it's at. Use technique to augment your music, not be the focus of it.

[@pavanguitars101]

One thing that I missed in my journey causing me to get stuck at one "level" for some time is ear training. There's probably also several aspects of being an advanced player - theory, technique, speed, chords etc., Few of those I think I am pretty good at, but one thing I missed and would like to learn is being able to listen to a song, and then pick up a guitar and play along with it instantly. That's the dream!!

[@stephenohanlon1671]

That guitar is absolutely gorgeous. I’m beginner edging into intermediate, I think. Started learning in March.

[@robertkrzeminski1206]

I am an advanced player but not a virtuoso in and particular type of music. You have to be able to give your song feeling and emotion .that separates you from intermediate and advanced .its the difference between playing a song and making music ....

[@askmehow702]

You’re an advanced player when you can play what you hear in your head.

[@kfr5018]

Yessssss

[@davydoomz]

Struggle for years to do this. I can play the rhythm but never the lead lines I hear in my head.

[@thomaswalker926]

So if John Williams can’t play what he hears in his head he is not advanced?

[@kfr5018]

@@thomaswalker926 if you’re composing music like that I’d imagine you’re playing what you hear in your head. Yes - you can be a technical player who can play anything and obviously you’d be considered advanced. In my opinion that’s not as impressive as someone who is using the guitar as their voice. Originality is what draws me to music but that’s just 1 perspective. Create new music people! Please.

[@cjgreen4331]

bro, howwww do you do this, but yes, i completely agree, this defines an advanced musician, theory or not. Your ear and your ability to transfer it to your instrument

[@gambee_]

Hey Marty! Haven’t been to the channel in a while but about a decade ago I had basically given up on guitar until I found your channel. I’m really glad to see you’re still doing so well and the channel is only growing bigger. Thanks for everything you do, man.

[@Ian-W]

I ran in to a brick wall when I started learning modes. Was able to memorize shapes. But I have no idea how to use them. I can’t get them to sound right. So I just stay with the ol’ reliable minor pentatonic. Just living here on my plateau.

[@generalkenobi6869]

You’re not alone there

[@mmccartney6579]

Some pro guitar players have made a great living just using the minor/major pentatonic scales. Also, James Taylor never learned how to read music, or learned modes, and he did alright. :)

[@RedLion88]

It’s not the scale or the shape that makes a mode sound like a mode, it’s the chord progression that you play underneath the scale. Try playing a simple Am to D loop (or find one here on KZbin) and play G major or Am pentatonic over it. You will sound like A Dorian. Then play a D to C progression and do the same. You’ll sound like D mixolydian. There’s a great Signals Music studio video where he plays the same C major scale over different progressions so you can hear modes.

[@markslima1557]

I find that modes sort of a 'feel' or 'mood' to them. Phrygian with the flat-2nd always sounds kind of exotic. Dorian sounds modal, a little medieval to my ears. Lydian with sharp-4th bright happy major. And what might be helpful is looking for the "key" notes that help define mode. Like a mixolydian is just major with flat-7th, so kind of 'focus' on the 7th to bring out the sound...?

[@RedLion88]

Mark Slima Yep. Dorian 6th, Mixo flat 7.

[@thatsithlord9906]

Great talk Marty, stimulating and also a great place to gather my thoughts and goals for what I want to accomplish with my current guitar path.

[@stephendavis5530]

I like to think I'm intermediate. I only do downstrokes when I play lead and sometimes bang into other strings while soloing. I'm getting better at barre chords, though to change from a F#m to a B is a bit of a challenge. I can just about play Purple Haze. I need to learn to mute better...especially playing loud, and wish that my hand positioning was better. Other than that, I'm not too bad! 😀

[@CleatSurfer]

Great video, Marty. I think conceptually, I fit the advanced category but there is a gap between what I understand and what I can actually play. You talked about it briefly with playing favorite songs and some solos. I can play rhythm accompaniment and lead though not well enough. If I’m going to learn a solo, I usually need a guy like you to teach it to me. To be advanced, I think you should ask yourself these and other questions... Can you count? Triplets, 16ths, odd time signatures? Can you take a lead sheet like from Ultimate Guitar, make corrections and learn the song? Are you able to work out simple songs and melodies by ear and take a chord progression and figure out where the changes are? Can you smoothly add lead fills to your rhythm to play? -Not necessarily improvised Can you play a song in a different position? Can you recognize and add dynamics? Can you effectively use a capo? Are you able to play in different styles whether it be genre or something like fingerstyle, hybrid or flatpicking? The answer for me is “so-so”. I would like to shorten the learning curve when playing new pieces, feel like I can play more than just what I’m currently working on, hit those damned chord tones in an improvised solo and expand my vocabulary of melodic ideas.

[@Compass2101]

There are 3 stages of Motor Skill Acquisition: Cognitive, Associative, Autonomous. Unfortunately the 2nd stage takes forever and most of us never get to 3 in most disciplines.

[@Urmyrx]

Thanks you @Compass2101 for jogging my memory on where I had seen this. A summary of this is discussed on one page of the book "Moonwalking with Einstein". Cognitive is like the first couple days learning how to drive a car (you have to think of everything, even how to put the key in the ignition, where to position your feet to operate the pedals, etc, etc.). Associative is after you have learned how to drive the car but surprises still "surprise" you. And, Autonomous is when the brain appears to respond without conscious thought (Ie.. a race car driver is about to be in an accident, he just figures out what his/her next actions will be without really "thinking" about it. Apologies I do not know what exact page this was on in the book. @Marty Music

[@aa.mirezZ]

Wow very in depth explanation; I appreciate this thank you. I am 100% self taught, and I have been watching various videos like this to help understand what i should be learning next, and I am happy to say everything you have mentioned I understand/already do. I definitely agree with the logic that you’re always learning, and you’re lifelong student of guitar, whether that’s a beginning advanced player or beginning master player, there is always more to learn. I got to the point in my playing where I decided to take on Jazz, and that just unlocked a WHOLE OTHER world that I didn’t even know existed on the guitar, that really goes past the pentatonic and modes, but explores melodic and harmonic minor and diminished scales and shows how phrasing can be built with various degrees of a key and relative and parallel keys as well as arpeggios. The different cadences in various progressions and progressions outside major minor. When I got to this point it unlocked an infinite amount of creativity and a way of understanding I never thought possible. I thought after I learned a little more than what you covered here I thought I was done, but no when I got into jazz I realized I only had scratched the surface and all the Knowledge I had learned was all prerequisites to be able to study beginner jazz theory. The guitar playing journey - I feel never really ends; and it is 100% about the journey and not the destination.

[@sonnyorlando9738]

Nothing better than a pep talk from Marty to start the weekend... and referencing Malcolm Gladwell?! The more I watch...the cooler you get!

[@kevinramon7678]

Effortly masterry is mee but there's a NEVER ENDING amount of knowledge for guitar. I started at 4 im 25 now ive got to the point where i can listen and follow or lead away a great melody. I appreciate my friends from high school who are great jazz musicians that helped a lot too!

[@davidgasparik6077]

I've been playing for almost two years now. I already learned all things mentioned in your video, but I still feel like a begginer.

[@scottarriaga2101]

I'm able to noodle freely in key and it sounds great. Finally. I feel like I broke through that ceiling of intermediate and into advanced. I think what he is trying to describe is the wall coming down between thinking about what you're playing, and letting your fingers take over. You don't have to think about the fret board anymore. Don't have to worry or think about scale or math. What you've learned finally starts to culminate into effortless translation of thought into sound. It's beautiful. It re-invigorates your hunger to learn. It's only after reaching this mountain top.. after years, that you catch your breath, look up, and see the what truly great guitarists have had to do to get so good. They are still looking down at you from really... really far up there. It's humbling. Marty is right, we are always students.

[@Pauld62]

Im just a guitar player 🤷‍♂️

[@adamperry870]

Same aye I call myself a intermediate but I know nothing about theory just like playing 🤣

[@harvey785]

I've been playing on and off since I was 14. Now I've decided to get the most out my guitar, instead of just playing the same 10 songs I've played for years. I'd probably class myself as a low intermediate. Open chords, bar chords I can play all day... but thats about it. I want to get face to face lessons but with COVID thats just not possible right now. I'll try (as you said) to learn a few new things (possibly triads and scales) but I really think I need someone to evaluate my ability and tell me where to focus.

[@AndersMcTee]

When I was younger the last word in guitar was Slayer, Pantera, EVH etc. Now as I’m older I think that Dave Gilmour is one of the most incredible guitarists ever. He can play quite basic pieces and often quite clean, but his tone and bends just make the hairs on the back of my neck stand up. When I look back at all the guitarists that inspired me early on, it just sounds like guitar olympics now. Look at all the timeless and emotive songs that John Fogerty wrote. That’s playing to me. That’s a good guitarist. Not just being able to throw a million notes per second in to everything

[@richardrussell4065]

Yes. You MUST have soul

[@TheLovelylady420]

Ot true we get older and listen through the noise. I still love nofx thougj

[@mikepawlikguitar]

I f*n love you Marty! Been there since the early days. Thanks for everything. Great vid as alawys. Rock on homie 🤟

[@cozm8]

Forever thankful for 3 things: Grunge introducing me to guitar. Lockdown bringing me back. Marty elevating me to intermed-ish.

[@jpc521]

Playing grunge will never improve your guitar playing, you will plateau very quickly once you learn how to play power chords

[@DannyBoi2112]

@@jpc521 playing guitar isn't always about getting better and better, it's about enjoying it, and if they enjoy playing grunge, then that's good enough

[@jpc521]

@@DannyBoi2112 yeah I totally get you but I was just thinking about the context of the vid

[@DannyBoi2112]

@@jpc521 Yeah fair enough

[@Aidxxnn]

@@jpc521 it’s happened to me I learned all nirvana songs now I can’t even be original

[@rosiecharlesmusic]

marty, please could you make a video on a checklist of things intermediate guitarist should know! love your videos as always xx

[@usernamehere6259]

This man is a straight legend. Convince me otherwise

[@LouisFreeman-yr7is]

You are so right on in what you’re saying. I’ve been playing for over 50 years and I couldn’t have put it better myself. I also think you should know what you’re best at and be able to do that at the best of your abilities. Just be you.

[@shredkelvin8228]

Y’all gotta stop worrying about advanced/intermediate crap and start practicing and working towards achieving your goals🤘🏿🎸

[@aidanyates6561]

because im a self-conscious prick who cares about how i measure up compared to other people for some reason

[@josephcurley8226]

I'm a ln intermediate with 35yrs experience. I learn something everytime I lift the guitar. That's why I love it, it never gets old, never boring.

[@gabrielpromusic6262]

I think AC/DC tutorials would be fun.

[@nickbarry7039]

Like the point you made about the drive to get better and not being contempt with where you're currently at. Just got back into guitar a few months back and have drastically improved from where I was before. Funny part is I've realized I'm not all that good, when before I thought I was decent because I could play a couple cool licks. Gonna start diving into theory and continue to practice daily, time will always yield results! Love your channel brother you've been a great teacher to me and countless others, you're much appreciated my man

[@twoweeksout]

I AM....neither :( Because I am expert :)

[@JohnSmith-lu4yb]

gottem

[@mateos4685]

you need to have: knowledge part- rhythm( chords: open, bar, power, strumming patterns, chord voicing, blues rhythm types) lead ( pentatonic scale, CAGED, mixing major n minor, Arpeggios, double stops, soloing with Modes) techniques part-( sequences of 3 notes per string), fingerpicking style part- (ACDC, Hendrix, BB king) or be in Marty Music school of rock to learn all above :)

[@renscps6131]

Marty is the only KZbin guitar player that I have ever actually learnt things from. Now I’m at least intermediate. THANK YOU MARTY

[@supasoul]

Awesome video Marty!! 🙌 Man, 5mins a day turned into an hour+ just jamming along songs.. over the last 5 months.. Now am at a point of drilling the root notes of the fretboard with Chords.. next goal is woking those Pentatonics and Modes .. THIS CHANNEL HELPED SO MUCH MAN Keep Rockin !! South African Fan

[@tktheguitarguy9403]

I've been playing for 45 years, I'm an advanced noodler

[@kevinj4002]

Advanced noodling sounds familiar

[@rwalker265]

I reckon i'm intermediate going by the measuring stick Marty has said here. Nearly 3 years with consistent practice. Got quite a few things to be well rounded enough to consider myself at the point of knocking on door of advanced. (Again using how Marty describes these levels). Tbf ive already shot way above my initial expectations and goals of where i wanted to be. Initially i'd have settled for 3 chords that fooled people into thinking i actually knew what i was doing which even though i could do the 3 chords, my strumming made it sound like i was using a claw hammer instead of a plectrum. Fast forward to now, i can strum, do fingerstyle and finger picking. Done several songs start to finish, can do barre chords, percussive strumming, riffs with slides n hammer ons and got a fairly decent level of music theory. Appreciate the videos.

[@littlebuddy4321]

I can't take you seriously when you have a burger king shirt on

[@richardrussell4065]

Lol love you for this

[@JellyrollHorton]

You will never get anyhere if you judge the world on superficiality

[@jadm110]

"I can't take you seriously when you have a burger king shirt on".... everyone's music motivation is different

[@brennanlongboat4298]

@@JellyrollHorton I believe it was just a joke lol

[@jamalali0]

you mapped it out, thanks man! definitely stimulating conversation.

[@enriquedelima396]

last video i was an intermediate, i can now proudly say i haven't made any progress.

[@pakteng2008]

This is exactly the video I have been looking for!!! Have been trapped in that beginner/intermediate phase for too long relying on just ultimate guitar and struggling with understanding the 7/9/maj/#maj7 etc, this breaks down what I need to learn and explore into. Thank you!!

[@bronzeageancientone4844]

I would describe my skill level as “ not good.”

[@lakejizzio7777]

I would describe my skill level as "legitimately bad"

[@Howzernn]

Same I'm shit lmao

[@EM-df6mo]

This really helps me know where I'm at in the Journey. Thanks Marty

[@unknowndubstep5394]

So my ability for playing seems to be a advanced but my knowledge of the terms is beginner to mid level intermediate lol, so what am I??? And is there like a good book or 2 with the terms??

[@hasanathasan4651]

same here, im not interested in learning theory or making music, i just love playing my favorite songs! many of them are metallica and megadeth

[@nicthomas1435]

i believe wether you call yourself intermidiate , andvanced ,whatever has most to do with . your , Ear ,Feel . ability to express and technical/physical facility on your instrument aka machanics

[@number1Don]

Advanced sitting down, Beginner standing up, First ever time playing if singing at the same time.

[@misu1073]

Are you an advanced player if you can play advanced songs? Or can intermediate players also play them "perfectly"?

[@koenhekkelman3644]

I've been playing for 8 years but I still feel like a beginner.

[@fransbuchwaldt8437]

Hi Marty ..your lessons improved my playing ..why! Because it's easy to follow your explanations during the lessons. Especially when you use the looper. Inspiration with a "basic" lesson inspired me to make the song a part of myself and easy to memorize. Blues/funk/rock / electric/arcoustic is in scope during my journey....your visualization is perfect..please continue!! Good job.

[@mvs2832]

being an advanced guitar player means that you mastered wonder wall, without that your not even intermediate

[@saramulry]

What else would you play at parties?

[@mvs2832]

Sara Mulry exactly

[@dalewetzel773]

Oasis is terrible

[@SuperEdge67]

Noel Gallagher would barely be an intermediate player.

[@mvs2832]

Just so you guys know (because is have a feeling you might not)... i was being sarcastic about mastering wonderwall it was literraly the first song i ever learned

[@randyhosier8948]

I'm just a beginner starting out again as the way I look at it I like to practice day to day. It's nice to take your time and don't get disappointed it's about learning and having fun . Thank Marty.

[@benjaminturney9788]

I agree and would add a little speel on picking techniques.

[@WhiskeyBiscuits23]

I know this is super old video, but I think I'm finally advanced beginner! I also thought maybe mixing minor 3rds and major 3rds and how to blend 2 licks together. That is something I'm just not getting my head around intentionally targeting in addition to the Major scale with the b7 (Mixy) sound. Even though I don't know how to apply modes, I have memorized the 7 major scales both, vertically and horizontally as well as knowing their modal spellings. I'm working through more triad use as well. It never ends and I'm glad it doesn't! Rock on!

[@galendboyer]

I'm on 4th year. My overall goal is to be able to not use the pentatonic shapes as my guide but the shapes of the chords as my guide and doing that within the rhythm of the song. I can figure things out but that isnt good enough. Do I know it so I can use it while playing a song. Can a song be played and I can play along and then just make some other progression up that fits in the song. Can I solo within the song and then play a chord right where my fingers are as I've been soloing. Shredding? I have no goals. I don't think I'll ever be fast. But I'm starting to be able to play what is being sung in musical time. And that also is translating to solos that fit with the music. All of the above came from starting with you Marty! I learned how to play a bunch of songs and each one took me to different questions. Now I'm learning many of them without help! Love ya Marty!

[@lamacheteduhiphop]

Besides the technique criteria, for me being an advanced player is all about tone and being a good musician. What I mean by good musicians is doing what's best for the moment (the song/jam) and being aware of your role in that music

[@TheLovelylady420]

You have changed my life. I'm a very addictive person and I'm hooked. Everything else has gone out the door for guitar. I'm in you online class on your web site. Thank you for doing this.!

[@justinhodge6574]

First off, I would like to thank you for all of your help over the past year or 2 since I originally found your channel. I was never interested in being a great guitarist. I learned guitar because I enjoy writing music, but over the years as happens I accidentally got pretty good. I never thought of myself as good though I was just a writer who learned out of necessity. I would learn a cover song or 2 here and there as I think most do. My point to this long comment is that watching this video just reaffirmed what others have said about me being an advanced player yet I never saw until this video. By giving me a break down of what makes a player a certain level. I also fell in love with playing and find a way to play everyday, and when possible for hours a day. I again just appreciate the help and guidance I have gotten from your channel in fine tuning or figuring out different songs, and now for the ability to know where I stand as a player.

[@stevenprebeg]

I agree with everything but one thing that separates ppl is technique .. u can know all the theory in the world but if u have good technique with it (or bad) , it’s a big difference in my opinion . Thanks Marty

[@charbaker]

The first time I auditioned and didn’t feel worthless was when I knew I was making progress. Still didn’t get the gig but great experience. Playing with others is key for me.

[@georgeszweden9497]

In my opinion you become advanced when you can comfortably overcome any musical obstacle. Mostly in learning new things, as being in tune with music itself and your instrument that there is no "language barrier"

[@anonymousforensic]

I feel comfortable with a lot of theory after a year of grinding at it. I understand the modes and inversions and triad voicings, but I need to move them from “knowing” to applying them very casually. Learning a huge set list of songs note for note and thinking about the choices critically has really helped solidify the concepts. It’s coming along slowly, but I am noticing the difference!

[@psychlos21]

Great points Marty. It comes down to musicality, adaptability, and being able to learn new styles, riffs, chords etc... I am at the point where I can either figure out songs by ear or watch a quick KZbin video and be ready to go. I think the best learning experience is playing with a band and doing live performance. For example, I spent almost 3 years with a Beatles cover band and was able to build up my chops and chord repertoire rapidly.

[@H.O.M.I.]

The quote comes from Kenny Werner's book "Effortless Mastery"

[@manxinsomniac]

Honestly, this has made me rethink where I feel my skill level is. There's several areas in the beginner stage that I admit to not knowing such as triads, so time to brush up 😊

[@xcodychaosx]

So honestly thought I was just kinda breaking into intermediate but I know my pentatonic and diatonic shapes note names open power and bar chords feel like as far as theory goes by these standards im advanced but I would like to be able to just improvise better its writing I struggle with a little but hell picked up a guitar at 15 learned a riff hear and their didnt focus did vocals in bands back then. But kinda just stopped then good old age of 27 comes around and well I was a suicidal teenager figured id join the 27 club back then but the closer I got I guess I just figured its death or really push yourself so I did I used that to push me toward my dreams. Cant join the 27 club if you're a nobody. Leaned most everything I know off of youtube and here I am about 3 and half years of serious musical focus and I'm just shy of advanced on guitar as well as being a solid intermediate on drums. All thanks to some awesome KZbin channels like this one.

[@kdavis63]

I would say I am an intermediate level. I am have been playing since 84. When I started, all I had was this huge chord book that should all the chords and where to play them on the different positions on the neck. So that is how I learned chords. What I did not learn was scales. Which I am learning now and understanding notes and chords in each. For me, I would like to get a better understanding of the Circle of 5ths and being able to understand modes, relative minors without having to think about it.

[@tahsinthoughts]

I consider myself an intermediate player and fit into the advanced criteria from this video (with the exception of being able to play modes). One obstacle for me to overcome to become advanced is that while i have a good understanding of and ear for melody, rhythm, I need to work on my dynamics/ phrasing when playing lead/ melody.

[@licksnkicks1166]

One of the best things I ever did was to join a band. I can just about play with anyone even if their a way better then me. I look at it as a learning opportunity. I am obsessed with music and guitars! If I am not playing you can be sure I am thinking about it! Just keep challenging yourself! It’s amazing what you can learn.

[@spencerjayofficial]

Just wanna say Marty that I have been learning from you since I was 10 years old. Picked up a guitar at 6. And here I am still trying to learn how I can become even more advanced of a guitar player. Lifelong journey for sure for those like us! I love that you are still doing this and still going up and up! Marty is a legend everyone! Thanks man rock on!

[@garethroberts6988]

I think if you can play in a band situation and come in on the back beat or play licks that have heaps of space between notes where you only hit back beats or you can easily play triplets, I’d say you’re advanced - ie you can play in a Black Keys cover band. Love from Australia 🇦🇺

[@nizza89]

best lesson by far Marty. Been watching since 2010

[@nizza89]

and learning

[@buckdashe2571]

I’m a searcher. I got my first guitar at 12…played in bands in the 70s and 80s. Fell back and just noodled for about 20 years. Got more enthused about 15 years ago and started jamming around. Worked out songs with a regular jam group. Always working in scales and stuff. Written some stuff. Performed with some song writers recently… All this and I BARELY consider myself “advanced.” I can lay down a lead to almost anything…but not playing with other people on a regular basis? THAT is what is key to growth. I just turned 70. I have so much more to learn.

[@ghfdt368]

I consider myself a beginner everytime I hear or discover something new I didnt know or takes my interest, thats the way I think and feel because I dont know how to do that thing yet! To me an intermediate guitar player is someone who is comfortable with the basics like power chords and open chords and within their genre can play some advanced chords comfortably and change chords easily. Also id say is starting to get comfortable soloing with the major and pentatonic scale and can play a bit here and there and some solos. Advanced for me is when a player is very comfortable with a large variety of chords and advanced concepts and knows how to put them together and change between them easily. As for lead guitar the player can play pentatonic easily but is also comfortable with playing outside the pentatonic scale, that being with chord tone soloing, the modes, diminished style licks etc and that the player is comfortable with numerous techniques like sweeping,pinch harmonics, tapping, hybrid picking, bending, arpeggios etc (not these exactly as it depending on your style, but more you have numerous tools in your bag and you know how to use them comfortably)

[@justinfendelet8675]

I been only playing,my guitar over 3 years,6 hours a day at times more never more then one week off do to playing injury ....if you use your ear and are driven you'll get there guys like marty are great !!! now I have my,own,style and can,play,anything

[@JohnnoDorber]

I like what you said about learning a chord a week. I know all the major, minor and a lot of 7ths in the open position, bar chords and quite e few power chords. But 9ths and other coloured chords? - one a week and you do get there.

[@JoshLousk]

as a recording artist, i look at this differently, many of my friends and myself have a decent understanding of the fundamentals of guitar, barre chords, pentatonics, etc, but while i may way better at some of that stuff than one of my buddies, he is far more talented at creative amazing songs and beautiful soundscapes, or writing great rhythms, and that’s what it’s all about for me at the end of the day

[@drake6381]

I’m currently trying to get past the I can play all the major chords and most barre chords but I really struggle with finger picking and blending single notes with chords phase. And also soloing. Pink Floyd “wish you were here” was a big hurdle for me. I’m sure I don’t play it 100% correctly but it sounds good to me.

[@viktorhammerstein]

First picked up the guitar about 25 years ago. Whatever the step is before beginner, that's still me...but I'm fairly competent in that range. Can nail Smoke on the Water bar chords with the best of 'em.

[@amosmj]

You be asked for feedback on the format, I dug. It’s not what I want all the time but, yeah, sometimes, a little chatter about profess is good. I appreciated hearing your take on the milestones from stage to stage.