Marvel Explains Agatha All Along Finale! Why No Post Credit, Nikky Scratches Father & More!

[@Peter_Sokunbi]

Agatha actually makes a good rewatch. Not many shows can be like that.

[@CherryChatz]

Never have a rewatched a show especially as soon as I finished it I found myself rewatching episodes 3-4 times a week then coming to KZbin for more. Truly amazing

[@sarah_honey_badger]

Same!

[@DredgensVein]

Moon knight has the best rewatch ability to me but this one is good too

[@couldbahappychic1217]

This

[@Dyl-275]

Uhh, daredevil

[@keturahisrayel]

2:40 I saw Agatha continuing to kill witches as like a metaphor for addiction. Like she was continuing to kill for a momentary high in the midst of all the pain from losing her son. Like when she killed Alice, it felt like she really could not stop because she was an addict.

[@progamer1000-ro2gr]

Yes queen it definitely feels like orgasm for Agatha. She could only break Wiccan's blast because he was powerful and she got out of it before his life force got fully drained

[@felixfeliciano7011]

That is mostly what I thought as well. When she told Billy "I couldn't control it," I took it to mean more like an addict is unable to control their cravings and their actions towards satisfying those cravings. She very clearly, physically, CAN control it. We see that in episode 8, but she doesn't have the willpower normally. During Billy's research, it is briefly mentioned that she "has succubus powers" or is a succubus herself. Succubi have a lot in common with vampires, with similar hungers. Whether or not Jac or Marvel were going that route when they made that reference, it set off a lot of threads in my head from looking into the topics a while back.

[@heavyhitter5538]

She continues to kill covens or people like in Titanic or in other disasters to fulfill the deal of bringing souls in exchange for immortality with Death. Did u notice Rio suddenly showing up when Agatha was under Wanda's spell and helps her to brake it coz she cant bring souls to her if shes brainwashed.

[@microbiology7951]

That's a nice take. Hadn't thought of that.

[@partiya_vaginodictatury_Aliyi]

God the more I hear about all the ideas for Agatha, Rio and Nicky, the more I understand how badly I need full story of Agathario, their life together and Rio's relationship with Nicky

[@Max_devi]

No post credit but the last scene of the show basically feels like a post credit

[@tycopsyche]

Jac Schaffer needs to add "Very straightforward, very direct, I don't believe her." to her Wiki references lmao. She's the most brilliant writer Marvel has, and she definitely has the coyness that comes with it!

[@tlwatts88]

Agatha All Along Great Show! One of 'Marvel' Best 💯🍿

[@terremotoelnegroloco2381]

What a awesome show!!!!!

[@jstabigdisneyplusseriesfan]

This feels like sarcasm. Don't you dare touch this amazing show.

[@tlwatts88]

@@jstabigdisneyplusseriesfan Awesome! 💯

[@daviderickson8699]

Two things: 1) "Old Scratch" or "Nick Scratch" is a literary term for the devil from very long ago. Recent shows like this, the Sabrina series and Lucifer have used those old names as thinly veiled demonic references. "I created you from Scratch" is, in that way, a clever entendre to keep us guessing. 2) It's pretty obvious why Agatha and Death are symbiotic - Agatha gains power while feeding Death. She was given "special treatment" in that Nicky was spared as an infant, but it was also transactional - he was an assistant to their cooperative enterprise. The moment he wanted a break from it, the deferment was revoked and he was gone. In the same way, when Death came for Wiccan (who had cheated her), Death instead helped restore Agatha (who had been rendered worthless to their pursuit by Wanda) and supported their mission because it fed her more dead witches. Once that was over, Death wanted her price again. You could argue that Death is the real antagonist, but it's more just the nature of things. Death will do what Death is supposed to do.

[@SundayMorning91]

I think her answer about the father is that she knows who she would like it to be, but because it wasnt covered in this series, marvel can always retcon her plans later if they decide they want to do something with that story. So she cant say Death is the father and then Marvel comes in five years with a story that says Mephisto is the father. Plus theres probably something contractual about not sharing those kinds of details to allow marvel to make whatever changes they want down the line. Once its out there its canon and marvel probably wants to keep that narrative flexibility available.

[@nachomiranda589]

So there are multiple reasons in different layers as to why Agatha keeps killing people: 1. She is greedy and evil and wants more power 2. Before Nicky was born she did so to impress Rio, i imagine she met her at one of her killings, falls in love and to lure her back she keeps killing to meet again until a relationship develops. 3. After Nicky's birth she keeps killing to keep Nicky alive, offering RIo more "bodies" as long as she let's Nicky stay with her for longer. Each killing buys Nicky more time with Agatha. The night they don't kill anayone Rio takes him. 4. After Nicky's death she kills out of grief (and once again power), to keep that connection to her son. Then she gets back the taste for it.

[@nikolakarapejevski]

the 4 is the most idiotic thing ever

[@nachomiranda589]

@nikolakarapejevski yeah well is what the videos says that's why i included haha i also don't think that makes much sense

[@sarah_honey_badger]

"You have really peeled back the layers of the 'Agatha | Rio' storyline! But seriously, if Marvel just brushes off their backstory, as some insignificant side note conversation in another story/plot show, I might just lose it. These 2 need their own spotlight, maybe even a whole prequel series, it is the only way to do their 'tangled history' any justice. I mean, come on, who wouldn't be 'dying' (pun intended) to know more about 'Rio's Vidals' relationship with The infamous 'Agatha Harkness', including the whole mystery behind Nicky's conception? They were a couple when he was conceived.... And Rio... I cannot imagine her being okay playing as a 'side-piece', especially with all that crazy obsession going on between her and Agatha. She's definitely NOT the 'sharing type', that's for sure! There's got to be some seriously juicy backstory waiting to be 'unearthed', don't you think? Marvel, are you listening? We need answers!" Please!

[@CS-qc7np]

Actually, the show hinted at 3 too during the conversation between Agatha and Death in the recording booth, and the other ones during the last episode. This comment get a 💯

[@rachel_kim384]

I really wish we got some of that backstory originally planned for agatha and rio, if the episode had a longer runtime I think it would've worked really well

[@paopao3736]

Or just more episodes, why is always 9 😭😭😭

[@thatguy-nd4eb]

@@paopao3736cause disney

[@ariki08]

For real - this show needed 12 episodes. BUT...pacing would have been affected. So, trade offs.

[@zakardolsey6615]

Agatha was a great show, last two episodes were perfect and they answered all our questions.

[@olivialodh6156]

but I'm still really curious as to how the darkhold ties to Nicky. because in agathas trauma hallucination she saw the book in a crib

[@_Hello.There_]

@@olivialodh6156 She saw what billy wanted her to see, each of them saw visions relating to something that they spoke about and billy heard... When jen warns billy telling him agatha sacrificed her kid for the darkhold thats why she sees it. however there is still alot we dont know, like how and when agatha got the darkhold, why she was put on trial by her mother, when rio met her, how they fell in love, yeah, it was a good show, answered majority of the questions, hopefully these lingering threads will be answered eventually :(

[@olivialodh6156]

@_Hello.There_ but like we know now that she didn't trade her child for the book. then why was she so affected seeing it in her crib?

[@olivialodh6156]

@_Hello.There_ also Lilia never spoke about her previous coven dying to teen. nor did Sharon say anything about Wanda. so what about their hallucinations

[@_Hello.There_]

@@olivialodh6156 she was probably shockes scared and confused at what she was seeing, because we know its not true, but its what billy believed, and well everyone believed, i hope theres more to it though, maybe the previous owner before agatha was nickys father, or something to that affect or she used a spell from the darkhold that gave billy life but would drain his life source until the darkhold had enough power to manifest physically becoming hers? idk

[@TimDaco]

Awesome Video Warren!!! Even though I do wish we had gotten to see more of Agatha and Rio's Past and Their Relationship and how they met, I'm Still Very Happy with what we got and it makes sense they would want to focus it on Nicky. I Loved This Show and I Hope Jac Schaeffer gets full control of The Witch Corner of The MCU because She's doing a Phenomenal Job. Woof Woof!

[@mydoggylives]

2:40... but her son didn't want to kill witches anymore, so she's not really honoring her son or his memory. She's just doing what she always did with him because that's all she had left.

[@meaguy3216]

Agatha and Death met in line at Chipotle. Based on the strength of their connection, Death grew their relationship both backwards and forewards through time.

[@ChiTownMade]

I'm not surprised that agatha and rio met over a sadistic way. They have that level to them. I am looking forward to where there stories both go. Especially when we get billy, Tommy, vision and Wanda's reunion. Favorite Hero: Batman

[@kellywhite9299]

I think that the line about Nicky "I made you from scratch" indicates that he is a result of the natural process of conception and birth. If the father was a supernatural entity, Nicky would certain have had abilities of some sort. They even show Agatha demonstrating her purple while Nicky just mimics the hand movements. I think that Nickys father would be an ordinary human, which made Nicky susceptible to the hazards of birth and survival of the 18th century.

[@mirandaduh8046]

A cool post credit scene would have been Rio at the pool where the boy was drowning until Wiccan steals the body for Tommy. Rio knows magic has just happened but is unsure exactly who performed it. 😮 She continues to take the boy's soul.

[@monroerodriguez]

They turned a nanny into a succubus serial killer and made it glamorous. Marvel tv is even weirder than the comics

[@logansims1596]

This show was a pleasant surprise. Excited to see where they go next!

[@ScarletPhantom-gv9rg]

I want to know how Agatha got a hold of the darkhold. And I think Agatha will come back to life

[@matt-603]

Yup, the scarlet witch and her son Billy can make it happen.

[@jockdavis7852]

I also like how they implemented some kind of time travel or time related in the show since it was the multiverse saga. I wonder how Brave New World will do it if they do at all? Also, I can totally see a Young Avengers happening and it resembling the comics cause most of the young avengers has already been introduced and their backstory already been told just like the og avengers.

[@ItzChicosWorld]

Yay!!! We get to wait 5 years until they pay off the Billy finding Tommy storyline

[@earthmamma85]

I don’t know about you guys, but I need more of Agatha and Rio.

[@king_vision4085]

The Witches Road was never real. It was Billy All Along

[@ken-yv3id]

The witches road was Agatha all along. Billy just fell for the con so bad he made it real.

[@paopao3736]

​@@ken-yv3id Yes!

[@king_vision4085]

@@ken-yv3id That’s semantics. If you want to be technical The watches road was Nicky’s song. That he wrote. The road was never a real place until Billy made it real. Agatha used the song to lead witches to their death. But it was never her song. And the road was Billy’s creation all along

[@ken-yv3id]

@@king_vision4085 the witches road as in the myth. The song was her son's but the con was her's and the point I'm making is the title refers to the fact that the road doesn't really exist. It was a con that went wild and became real from Billy's magic. Only Agatha and Rio knew that though, Billy didn't even know what he did. The concept of the witches road was Agatha all along.

[@bk7825]

It would have been great if they connected wanda with agatha at the post credit scene

[@Captain.AmericaV1]

All will be connected in Vision Quest. 😊😊

[@bk7825]

@Captain.AmericaV1 definitely

[@NatashaSmith-op6hn]

I think thats how Nikki stayed alive was Agatha stealing their powers because when nikki said can we just kill more witched tomorrow thats the night Rio took him. So iys a way to keep her power and keep nikki alive if only in memory.

[@jockdavis7852]

@@NatashaSmith-op6hn I was also thinking that

[@proximashining776]

I don't think Agatha kept killing witches every single say for 6 years. That just doesn't seem realistic. They would have run out of witches very quickly.

[@nicholasdemonte3617]

Really solid show exceeded my expectations and love these director interviews to give a little more context

[@returntosoilgumiho]

Throughout this whole show's amazing run there's 1 thing I have come to unequivocably realize and it's Mephisto can't catch a break!!! Now he's gotta hear about paying for child support because Nikki needs a dad🤣🤣🤣

[@thestarseeker8196]

Agatha states herself in the show though that she basically conjured up her pregnancy (“that’s what every mother does”, according to another well-known witch)

[@fizito_]

didnt she say the opposite though? she said no incantation, uttered no spell, made him from scratch?

[@thestarseeker8196]

@ It’s just an odd way of putting it though, Wanda was the first thing I thought of. Agatha must have been the most formidable on Earth before Wanda became the Scarlet Witch, so actually conjuring up kids might be something that just becomes plausible after attaining a certain level of power. Plus, like she told Billy..you want straight questions, ask a straight lady. I wonder if her orientation was part of the reason she was persecuted back in the day, as a sidenote

[@fizito_]

@@thestarseeker8196 i'm not quite sure... conjuring up life like that seems like the sort of stuff only the scarlet witch would be able to do, i.e. bending reality itself! it would be weird for agatha to casually create a baby out of thin air that existed in the world while the scarlet witch could only mantain her kids inside a distorted reality

[@Pathfinder-jk7gh]

⁠@@fizito_ Well, I think that Agatha said in Episode 9 that the problem with Hex Vision and the twins was because of the flaws in the Hex itself, not really in them. Likely because of how it had essentially cast itself with her emotional breakdown.

[@OooWinnehooO]

@i also believe her orientation was another reason why agatha's mother said she's "born evil", which also explains rio's hatred towards agatha's mother in the third trial.

[@pgoodwin230282]

When in ghost form and she going for the locket she says "I carnt face him" I wonder if it isn't Nicholas she was talking about but someone else. Maybe Mephisto??

[@projectarchivist9085]

Aaaah, thank you for the clarification on going forward with " New stuff" and not stuff thats already in production.

[@kimmy9280]

If you look closely at Nicky, its a combination of Rio and Agatha's. He resembles Rio probably why Agatha was supposed to ask Rio to retire her form as it reminds her of Nicky.

[@nickzwieg706]

Awesome video

[@deborahbryant1550]

Absolutely loved the show! Hope the open ended finale means we'll be seeing the story continuing in a Wiccan series or in the new Vision series.

[@seyitdemir6285]

love this hope more to come.

[@kattheartist978]

In my head Agatha and Rio might have met when Agatha killed her mothers coven. In the series Rio said Agatha just killed them because they wanted to kill Agatha. Imagine Agatha after she killed the coven and Rio shows up. Agatha is still shaken and asks Rio if they are all dead and Rio sais "It's okay. You needed to do it to survive." And then they talk and come to like each other. That also explains how Agatha said to Teen he needed to possess another body to survive and shouldn't feel guilty.

[@Tony-tq5cz]

As much as i feel bad for Agatha her son was on borrowed time i understand why Agatha is mad at Rio but to be fair Rio is LITERALLY the Grim reaper she's a force of nature shes not good or evil she was just doing her job its just unfortunate that Nicky had to die.

[@MillenniaRincon]

Need second season

[@carlosbenjaminturner5123]

6:58 Funny thing about this, is that in the -spanish- dubbing for Latin America they translated the phrase "I made you out of scratch" to something that virtually says "You were conceived Immaculate", which not only does not make sense at all, but also changes the whole context of Nicholas' birth.

[@animalsrcute5762]

I loved the show way more than I thought I would. It was Great! It definitely shows you that we don't need huge Hollywood names or big budgets we just need good actors who want to act because they love the craft and great writing. Personally I never thought everything that was going to come out on Disney plus was going to connect to the movies and I did not want it to. I honestly wanted it to be a platform to teach me more about their Marvel comic characters. And at most they were going to find a way to replace every other show on any other station, so if your parents liked detective show they were going to give you a detective show, if your family likes wholesome family shows from the 90s they were going to give you that and if you like spooky witches stuff they were going to give you that something for everybody of every age and every family type.

[@ensabahnur827]

This was great Jack's vision. Is why the show was a success

[@smalls-ii1zd]

Down down down we go down the witches road

[@nicholasmesa3588]

Considering all the silly drama surrounding The Acolyte and Snow White, I felt Agatha did a great job, with a wonderful group of Women Leading the way. Great Story telling. 💯🎯💪🏽🔥✊🏾

[@thomaspowell4324]

Agatha all along was so good

[@santhilampon2273]

Lady death was wronged by Agatha. Lady death really loved Agatha when Agatha was the most vulnerable without power in episode 1, that shows how much Lady Death loved her

[@HpandMarvel_povs]

I feel like the backstory and stuff on how Agatha and Rio met might be in the Rio series

[@glenchaplin]

I wonder if the agent of Mephisto line was a foreshadow rather then a misdirect

[@Scotty2Hotty1122]

I agree. If anything Nicky might want to haunt Billy based off his power alone. I can see Agatha guiding Billy being conflicted

[@anthonylagreca7449]

Finale was great and I too was stunned to see no post credit scene. Wanda’s film won’t be for a while

[@bartonbagnes4605]

I guess we'll have to wait and see.

[@dwightnorton3398]

i loved it

[@nerdsandgeeks-101]

🎉

[@digdigdigo]

i thought she continued to kill witches as a desperate and futile attempt to gain as much power as she could to try and bring nikky back

[@adamgreen4252]

I still hope we get more of her character.

[@maskedraver]

Confused on the difference between Hela and Rio. Isn't Hela goddess of death? But Rio is death itself? Same same? Or different?

[@nataliabusko1432]

Hela just killing and stuff Death more like collect the souls and lead them to afterlife

[@christopherbrown3947]

Video answer what was almost the post credit scene I really love that

[@BAustinize]

I 100% believe that losing kang caused this mess. There was more to this series

[@alanlyne8831]

Might be me being simple, but I still don’t know why Agatha told Death it is not allowed for her to kill her. Also, Death said that she hadn’t see Agatha since she had acquired the Darkhold and hid behind all that dark magic. Wouldn’t this mean that the scene of her meeting Agatha at the death of her son was long before her acquiring the Darkhold?

[@DottieAtwood]

Whaat happened to the rabbit

[@loutzenheiser6081]

That would have been a cool post-credit scene

[@jethelmark2541]

i think agatha all along credit scene includes the scarlet witch. but kevin did not allowed it because he still wants to put mystery ahout what really happen to wanda. kevin knows that everybody loves lizzie aka scarlet witch. ahd lets face it! wanda is the queen of marvel now. people are excited to see her again in any marvel show. i do love elizabeth olsen and she's the perfect scarlet witch. the only 1. 😊😊😊

[@universalorlandochica]

Did Agatha start killing witches when she killed her coven or before? Loved the show, can't wait to see how marvel brings in Tommy

[@chancegtb]

What if they retcon Magneto in the MCU as a Holocaust survivor, but you make him old enough to have had kids. During a disaster Magnetos family is killed but Wanda’s powers allow her to escape with Pietro’s soul (like Billy did) into Age of Ultron, Maximoff twins right as the crash in their apartment killed them.

[@itskashkashi]

A3 had a whole ass post credit episode lol and we still want a post credit scene 😅

[@barsnobs]

I think Mephisto makes sense for Agatha's child father. Why would Agatha be killing so many people before Nikki was born? Mephisto and the dark hole play into how Agatha got in trouble with her coven. Lady death only got involved after Agatha met Mephisto and made a deal

[@larynOneka8080]

They did Wanda dirty in Multiverse of Madness so I would rather they just leave her alone.

[@oleksandrbyelyenko435]

It was Sam Reimi

[@SnowLily06]

Depends on the writer. Marvel isn't some cosmic entity that wrote the story Marvel has many writers of differing quality. Wandavision was amazing and so was Agatha all along so it's pretty safe to say that if the writer of those shows brought back Wanda it would be great.

[@koruzarius8071]

I think Jac's comments about Nicholas's father imply something different than you inferred. I think she's saying that she wrote an explanation, but because it wasn't actually put to film and released, the decision isn't actually in her hands anymore. Just because she "knows something" doesn't mean that that "something" will actually be canonized. I think many times in the franchise one filmmaker had an idea about the past or future of something that then another filmmaker simply wrote something else, and this is no exception. This soon after release there are probably preliminary plans to continue the story of Billy and Agatha, but unless she's already attached to that project and it is underway, her ideas have no bearing on what will come to be.

[@Mart9]

So when is vision quest supposed to come out❓❓

[@ColeBeeRyan]

I figured she made Nicky like wanda made her boys. No spell or incantation. From scratch.

[@jockdavis7852]

@ColeBeeRyan Than, wouldn't that make it chaos magic? And I think only the scarlet witch and some other person have that.

[@ColeBeeRyan]

@jockdavis7852 what I'm saying is that Wanda created her children and the hex vision and all of the hex with no spell or incantation... Just like how Agatha claims to have made Nicky. From scratch. It could have been subconscious. We don't know how the MCU is handling chaos magic or Wanda to be quite frank. Many things are different than the comics.

[@jockdavis7852]

@ColeBeeRyan true.

[@JosephKrau]

YO MA BRUV AT COSMIC WONDER. CAN U PLS DO A VID 'BOUT POTENTIAL YOUNG ACTORS WHO COULD POSSIBLY PLAY TOMMY MAXIMOFF AKA SPEED, THE OTHER SON OF THE SCARLET WITCH, IN THE MCU. PLS, I GOTTA C SUM OPTIONS🙏🙏

[@MsPatricia55]

I wish these people in charge of the interviews would just stop trying to forcibly get answers out of these Marvel Studios Actors and Actresses, they should know pretty damn well about Marvel's very strict No Spoilers Policy. It's things like this that pisses me off when it comes to Marvel Studios as a business.

[@paulfwood6177]

If death found agatha attractive by killing a bunch of people then death would fall in love with Thanos

[@Kody1_Kenobi]

IMO the 9th episode was the post credit scene in a way

[@SamuelQuaye-zs4uc]

The boy resembles her a lot. Are the related in real life?

[@drainvigor]

No post credit was interesting choice It would be sad if Agatha was taken advantage of by mephisto or cthon to make Nicky

[@Matthewmest]

So Death loves serial killers

[@tammydeboard6537]

I don’t like how they ended it at all. It makes no sense. Why would they end it like that? I know they have to have more coming from Marvel. Hurry up please. I did like Agatha all along. I wish they would make more about her.

[@darianthompson5975]

Great show. I think it would be a little better if she were a military advisor. She could have been the cause for all major wars, which is a better reason for death noticing her

[@vamp1248]

Is Rio father?

[@koolerpure]

There’s no post cause the tags the writers made don’t line up with anything and it shouldn’t tease a sequel when there won’t be

[@ac4th371]

Death falling for Agatha cause of the people she killed doesn't make sense considering Death wasn't interested in Thanos and he killed 1000x more people than Agatha.

[@gypsymoongem]

Maybe she does not know f a wanda movie because she will get another show

[@josemaiz1651]

Wait Nicky father mephisto

[@amoghalone7591]

Hmm

[@Erni3K]

Why should Wanda settle for two hours of story, when she got nine and hopefully more?

[@wxywawjy626]

Nicky's father is Mephisto but Jac couldn't write on him since Marvel has plans for him. Maybe in the future we will see it. Agatha saying she made him from scratch is just to explain his name tbh and considering Old Scratch is Mephisto, well she made Nicky from Mephisto. But it's good that many are speculating! We will see in the future if Marvel visits this subject in the future like during a meeting between Agatha and Mephisto!

[@tabuuharruu1425]

Agatha literally said, i made you out of scratch, when Nicholas was born. Did you miss that part? Parvati the hindu goddess made her son out of her sweat and molded him aswell, maybe thats were the inspiration comes from

[@Kevynmorgan]

I still don't exactly understand Agathas powers

[@MatthewK122]

They should have make Witches Road real

[@jockdavis7852]

@MatthewK122 Right! It just like the Timekeepers in Loki season 1, they were fake.

[@59rlmccormack]

Death couldn’t be Nicholas’ father/other mother, she couldn’t…

[@JohnCarter-e8e]

Tony stark doom is the daddy haha

[@AndreTJones]

Isn't Niky’s father just magic itself? I mean Agatha is a lesbian. 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@jordanallen3078]

this TV producer not knowing anything about the Wanda movie isn't surprising. that is very likely an entirely different machine than the one that is creating the Wanda trilogy for TV.

[@bizzybrown8372]

Nah . I think Mephisto is Nick’s father

[@Captain.AmericaV1]

*Mephistopheles is the father!!*

[@trinitybruns]

Innocent witches??!!! Are you kidding me!!! The only innocent witch Agatha has ever killed was Alice after she saved her from her mom and Agatha couldn’t control it. EVERY witch she killed CHOSE to attack her!!!! All because they sought “Glory at the end” of the road and she didn’t “give it to them”. The witches road was always real and they failed EVERY time.

[@B-Moye]

Her neighbor did nothing wrong 😂

[@trinitybruns]

@@B-Moye She was not a witch and she drank 2 cups of poisoned wine... Agatha had nothing to do with that. They were all at fault for not caring for her , Jen for not being a healer, Alice for not being a protector, Billy for creating the whole thing. And Shouldn't have Lillia seen it all coming? She could have EASILY popped back into that moment and made at least that right. Did death even come take her? There was ZERO follow up on that one.

[@dizzle13451]

5:50 there so f…… annoying man, I hate these mediocre answers

[@ShyMusicLoverXO]

Third

[@RiceDaddy07]

I hope Rio isn't Nicky's "father". The anti-woke crowd are going to never let us hear the end of it. Please either make Nicky a baby born without a father (virgin Mary type thing) or there's an actual dad.

[@Tazirai]

Tell them to shut up. The Anti-woke crowd only has power because we don't tell them to STFU enough. Rio isn't a human woman or a human male. It's Death that appears as a female human. Death is literally what it wants to appear or Identify as. The Anti-Woke crowd don't even understand that the God they worship is neither a man or a woman, it just identifies as a HE, when it's an IT.

[@regirantanen]

I'm calling it now!! Mephisto is Nicholas Scratch!! Rio raised him out of love for Agatha. Remember, I called it 1st!!

[@Cygnus333]

Make Mephisto the dad!