Marvel United: Multiverse - Should You Back It?

[@BoardGameCo]

And of course....they released an optional buy today. Curse you cmon!

[@jbirzer]

Lol. Just was reading the update. Pet companions.

[@millr8222]

For the campaign decks they state that it uses all of marvel united content. Which is great for people that have gone and beyond and bought it all.. But many will not have that much to set them up.

[@kazegaijin]

One more day and you could have covered tomorrow's expansion as well. It's cmon, always wait for the all-in🤣

[@Jwlahn]

@@kazegaijin I was surprised to see this video posted today! I immediately checked my email to see if I'd missed the "All-In" Announcement.

[@kazegaijin]

@@Jwlahn 🤣 yepper

[@jbirzer]

The one caveat to the campaign decks is that you pretty much need to own most of the sets to use them. They all take heroes and locations from all three campaigns. So, if you don't own everything, you might want to think about not doing that one.

[@TheAndrevarela]

They said you can replace stuff.

[@thrawncaedusl717]

I just hate that they’re not telling us which characters are needed for what campaigns under the guise of “spoilers”. Spoilers don’t matter, and this is something the consumers should know!

[@dustiiyork3907]

You might loose some options not owning everything, but you could always just choose your own characters and get your value out of them , they said in stream that it would still work the same using any character.

[@jbirzer]

@ThrawnCaedusL, they let us know the characters and locations in update 72. And yes, they said you can substitute, but I don't know how well that will work. Some of them I'm missing too much.

[@canonblackwell1]

The issue is also that you can substitute, but you really lose a lot of the story of the campaign if you are trying to play the War of kings deck without having the War of kings expansion. Or Avengers vs X-men or Dark Phoenix without any X-men content.

[@jeffersonwu952]

lol, the #1 optional buy is definitely the "Pet Companions"! Just imagine how the faces on the kids will light up when they see the pets.

[@Thanos88888]

I only play with my playmat. Why would I play without it? It has spots for everything and you don't need to use that flimsy arrow thing for the villain dashboard. The other nice thing is that it's much easier to pick up cards from a neoprene mat than off a slick table top. The cardboard upgrades and plastic tokens are an easy pass for me. I've also decided to buy every expansion that they are offering and I don't already have. The extra decks seem to be a no brainer for me. The cards are what really makes the gameplay.

[@LordVampire1985]

Thanks for this video, it's great! Some things that are noteworthy though: 1. The Campaign Decks require you to have ALL the MU stuff. And the only people that have ALL the stuff already, don't need your video to convince them to buy S3 I assume. People that don't own all of S1 and S2, like me, can't even play campaign decks, so I think this should be way lower on the list and this also needs to be mentioned. 2. Maximum Carnage, World War Hulk and Civil War (and the Team decks and equipment decks) will be available at retail, so you don't need to pledge on Kickstarter to get these eventually.

[@Narzghal]

The big thing is MC will NOT have the modular aspect, that is KSE. That to me is the biggest value out of all the campaign and worth the entire price of the box.

[@LordVampire1985]

@@Narzghal It is, and that's why I also added it to my pledge.

[@diemon_spawn2732]

Marvel United brought me into the world of painting minis, for me I consider now if it allows me to paint oddly it’s my first consideration than gameplay now

[@prestongames25]

Loving this whole campaign! I’m one of the crazies that owns and has played everything from the last 2 seasons and I wasn’t sure I wanted more, but all the new game mechanisms they are adding is having me go all in again , can’t wait for it

[@izzuu6548]

Hey would you please be more specific ? What differences with previous seasons ? Is there any optional buy which is the best plue value overall ? (New mechanics, Gameplay enhanced etc.) Thanks !

[@mitchellryan515]

Thanks for doing this video Alex. Super easy to get caught up in the hype and FOMO with this (and all Kickstarters, particularly CMON). I think you’ve helped temper my recklessness. I have all of season 1&2 and that’s more than enough, I haven’t touched half of it yet. You have helped my sensible side and saved my wallet 😂 still want some of these but I won’t get it all

[@BoardGameCo]

It's definitely not needed.

[@gamingwiththepowers]

We can relate to this. We own all of season 1, missed season 2 and we still have barely played all of season1 content. Add in all of this new content and its a-lot to take in and can be overwhelming. Some things look cool and add to the flavor of the game, but this is definitely becoming a lifestyle game.

[@mitchellryan515]

Definitely interested in getting the campaign decks to add some thematics to the gameplay but I’ll be a bit more considered. Cheers mate, we all likely benefit from you being real

[@thehaydenroper]

Oh man I would kill for a DC United. Need more DC games

[@BoardGameCo]

Lol yes

[@TabulateNewt8]

It's been announced! Coming to Gamefound July 2024!

[@brettimous]

Alex, why would you so highly recommend the campaign decks when you need nearly every other expansion in order to fully use them? I do think they're cool, but this seems like only something to consider if you're already getting every gameplay expansion.

[@rawkyle9385]

I don’t think he realized that

[@miceinattic]

Thanks for the video. I just recently discovered your Chanel and I’ve been binging so much of this weekend.

[@branboom3342]

The X-Men playmat was one of my favourite purchases from the previous campaign and plan to get the new one too. They have excellent resale value too.

[@BoardGameCo]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@michaelcoffman6873]

The campaign decks use characters/villains from those optional buys, making some of those campaigns unusable without buying them. That 15 is more like 200

[@PudakFilip]

Alex, it seems you are rooting for the campaign decks, but most of those require access to a lot of content that players will not have if they just back the base pledge. Any thoughts?

[@dntmk3r]

First kickstarter I’m backing. I managed to buy all of season 1 from the game store in my city. As well as a good chunk of season 2: Blue Yellow FF Days of Future Past and core box. And they still have the promos box for a really good price (if it’s still there in a few months I’ll get it). However I still want more. Getting the Herald pledge with maximum carnage and civil war. The decks are things I won’t use and the campaign decks require everything so I’ll pass on that. I will say I’m tempted by the pet avengers and am curious what the next expansion box will be. I don’t mind having all this content because I’ll play it all and have a lot of plans to create my own campaigns and different ways of playing. My biggest gripe with this game is storage and having to talk myself out of getting age of apocalypse. (And whenever I start to think how much money I’ve spent on all of it)

[@marshall4311]

The Campaig decks are nice. However, to fully use them, you need almost all content from all three campaigns so most new backers can barely use it. My advice on them would be: Pass, unless you have everything already and will go all in on this one as well.

[@Mathroy]

Short answer: yes. Although I wish they sold all of previous stuff as add-ons for newcomers.

[@Dullahan3470]

The campaign decks are interesting, I’m debating them. Even going all in on this campaign and hitting up retail two of the campaigns (Phoenix, Apocalypse) would require some second hand KSE boxes.

[@BoardGameCo]

Yeps, if you don't want to replace

[@Jwlahn]

@@BoardGameCo I guess. But why would you want to play a "Dark Phoenix" campaign with so many substitutions that it ends up being the Young Avengers fighting Iron Patriot? Recommending the campaign decks (especially before we can see how each campaign plays and what effect substitutions might have on the flow of the game) feels a little bit like recommending the big box storage solution to a game as your first purchase after getting the core box. 🤷

[@flipz101]

Really good advice about the expansions that change the game play dramatically (Galactus etc), as a seasoned Marvel United player, the Galactus reminds me a lot of the Sentinels expansion in season 2. Which I hardly ever pulled out and played! Exception being the ‘Sinister 6’ expansion.

[@patricklavoie3939]

Boy!!!…. I thought i knew what i wanted…. and you gave me the tools to make an enlightened decision… yes IT WILL cost more BUT it will be what i feel is right for me… :)

[@thrawncaedusl717]

As someone who bought both core pledges (If x-men had come first I probably would not have bought the other one; for me, this is simply the x-men game I always wanted), I think I might end up just buying the new core at retail (mainly for the improved solo mode), and maybe Civil War at retail (so I can pvp x-men vs Avengers). But most of the stretch goals do not excite me this time.

[@Mathroy]

Im 90% sure they mentioned in one of the Friday weekly videos from CMON that you can play the new Solo mode with the old stuff, without buying the new campaign. I think you just have to look up the rules online.

[@thrawncaedusl717]

@@Mathroy that would be awesome, thanks!

[@robmarney]

I'm in the same boat. Do I really value Vulcan and Gladiator at $35, or can I wait to pick those up on Ebay?

[@nathansutterfield]

It is always reassuring when can be on the same page as Alex with what he recommends for getting enough to elevate the game but not spend hundreds and hundreds and have a full whole kallax bookcase of one game /game system. Keep up the great work. I am on the fence on pets - but I am sure we will hear your opinion on that in the next few days Thanks again

[@XileboW]

Loving the should you back it! I felt it would have been interesting for a first time buyer to see where you rank the corebox season 1 and core box season 2. I thought about getting some MU, but somehow not getting some of the classic characters feels very unrewarding, so I guess I'll pass until a MU all-stars gets made one day.

[@thrawncaedusl717]

Not an expert (have only played each a couple of times), but season one MU feels more like proof of concept, while season 2 feels like a legitimately good game imo. Which, yeah, that kind of sucks because it means a lot of the most iconic (non-X-men) characters feel lackluster, which has me considering the Civil War expansion because at least then I’ll have a good Cap and Iron Man.

[@canonblackwell1]

If you are just getting the base pledge and/or don’t have the previous kickstarters, don’t get the campaign decks. They really cover a lot of the content from all three kickstarters and are not great if you don’t own a lot of content, especially from the X-men sets.

[@maartenvz]

Dark Beast has the exact same mechanics as Spiral with a nicer villain dashboard. For me Age of apocalypse gives you 3 villains which is nice but still not enough to warrant 35 dollars (+vat+Xtra shipping)

[@klissattack]

I am someone who generally falls into the FOMO trap but I was surprisingly able to control myself this time around. I'm very excited for the campaign packs and maximum Carnage will be fun

[@IXILeiFIXI]

Hey Alex. Love the videos you make! BTW the KS link needs to be fixed

[@BoardGameCo]

Fixed :)

[@blakecurry3880]

My issue is that there are too many add ons I would feel compelled to get and I already have SOOOOOO much content for this already, so I've decided to pass on it. If I had kids I would probably go for it though.

[@foodini666]

you have about a year to fix that problem.

[@Gregtech123]

Curious on your opinion of the new animal companions add on

[@ashrael37]

Good video. I am thinking of going with Galactus, Carnage & Campaigns. I might throw some other small items in also.

[@richardoaks8333]

Don't have much time, but what about the classic promo bundle? I recently started checking out united so I missed out on previous campaigns, should I get the ff and sinister six as well? Also, are the optional buys not labeled with the Kickstarter exclusive icon the ones that will release for retail later?

[@richardoaks8333]

I decided to go all in and I also bought the previous promo packages. I think 700 is alot of money, but at the same time, these miniatures are super sweet and someone will play this with me. And if I ever decide I don't need it anymore, I'm sure Ill find it a new home and get a return on my investment. I place alot of value on ownership and usage when I judge the cost as well. Every time I play, it pays off more and more so I can extract as much value as I need out of it. I think people would love to play all this with me. I'm banking on it, actually. And make some cool memories for the scrapbook

[@jparish1987]

Other have said but I would not recommend getting the campaign decks unless you are heavily invested. Yes CMON have said that you can replace heroes and locations but they aren't allowed to recommend that because of how the license works(same for equipment and teams), they have to follow the comics and what was approved. The bigger issue is they also stated the campaigns will use various modes so if you don't have the expansion that adds that mode you won't be able to play that campaign.

[@jorisschelfhout2348]

Same feelings about the campaign decks🥰

[@pika3008]

Thanks for the overview, it helped me to keep my wallet in check. I will still need a new closet to store all the boxes though! Marvel United is quickly taking over all the space in my gaming collection...

[@silverhuber2396]

Link is giving the Elden Ring board game page.

[@BoardGameCo]

Fixed thanks!

[@aaronst.pierre3080]

It's probably the best and most comprehensive board game ever, that being said this kickstarter you could probably opt out of at least a few of the expansion packs. For me the obvious one to not get is the one with the SHIELD and Skrulls (Secret Invasion). You already have a Nick Fury and the rest of the box is rather meh. Other than that most of the box sets are great, many folks will say Annihilation but by the game designers own podcast they state that the heroes there are among some of the best in the game so that's a must.

[@yasirer]

Can you talk about Batman escape from arkham asylum because they've made it so much better now with more characters, rulebook and a playable TTS demo.

[@BoardGameCo]

Coming tomorrow :)

[@hunterbarella8402]

Does anyone know if we can back for a dollar and still have access to the PM for KS prices?

[@DedoPorno]

Yes, you can.

[@MerrillWhiteKalEl]

I am at least getting the $100 pledge. The rest, I don’t know yet.

[@shlomaster1]

Thinking of getting into marvel united. (Not the current KS) besides the core box, can someone pls recommend 2-3 must have expansions, thanks.

[@millr8222]

Seems like sinister six and fantastic four is mostly recommended and the xmen core box or the respective stretchgoals. All of what you will get way cheaper during this campaign with additional stuff just added on top.

[@canonblackwell1]

Fantastic four and sinister six are kickstarter exclusive, but any of the expansions that you see character in it that you enjoy will offer a lot. Most of the retail boxes will just be 4-6 heroes and a villain and of those I think the best bang for your buck is the X-men blue and gold team expansions (if you like X-men). Waiting for the Civil War expansion to come to retail will be a good buy (it says it isn’t kickstarter exclusive) but the absolute best place to start is to get the core boxes. There are two right now (base game and X-men) a spiderverse one coming this summer called Spider-Geddon and then this multiverse one next year. Those usually cost about the same or $5-10 more than expansions but come with 5-8 Heroes and 3-4 villains in each making them way more bang than the non-core box expansions.

[@shlomaster1]

@@canonblackwell1 thanks a lot for the info. I will start small and see where it takes me as I generally don't play much cooperative games but this drew my interest.

[@shlomaster1]

@@millr8222 I will look into those you recommended, just going to get a couple to try it out and see where it takes me. i am sure once i like it that i will seek more villains.

[@canonblackwell1]

@@shlomaster1 yeah I understand. I’m the same way. marvel United for me is just an easy game that I can get out with some friends, especially people who don’t play much board games, and hang out. I don’t do much co-op either so this is my main one.

[@synnarc]

The KS link in your description goes to the Elden Ring KS.

[@BoardGameCo]

ixed it thank you!

[@aSyphodias]

So annoying that we cannot just get some add-ons. I'd love to get a playmat but I don't particularly want more content for this game sine i haven't gone thourgh anywhere near what I got in XMEN.

[@cobisari]

Great informative video. Thanks Alex.

[@callum_0903]

I wish I could just purchase the return of the sinister six expansion and the playmat without having to pledge for at least the core box as I'm not that interested in the characters in the multiverse pledge.

[@lilformersmatt]

Yup, back it. Very diverse content in this campaign.

[@rudigerkipferl4479]

Having seven boxes from the first two campaigns here, haven't played half of it. I'm good. The need to get more second and third string and alternate reality characters is little. And all the new game components have the potential to needlessly complicate an easy, fun game 🤷

[@maxf.7262]

Ty for this video!

[@BoardGameCo]

Always :)

[@centertainment2969]

I can’t wait for this to arrive in a year

[@missitheachievementhuntres560]

The kickstarter link in the description goes to elden ring

[@BoardGameCo]

Fixed thanks!

[@ScytheNoire]

At which point does it become just too much content? I think Marvel United passed this a while ago.

[@millr8222]

It will soon take its own gaming room to store all of it if you do not condense the content of each box

[@Thanos88888]

NEVER!!!

[@davidgould8641]

I really want to play this game, but I own none of it and find it a little overwhelming.

[@BoardGameCo]

It's a lot for sure

[@Unreal_BE]

I only own the marvel united core game +spiderverse box. I really need to know what is the best value/money back here. Teams decks seems a no with no other boxes

[@michaellai968]

For 65$ and shipping you can’t beat that value. The SG box alone has a lot of content. I personally would get both SG for 220+core and you’ll have more than enough content , but it’s a big investment. In order of what I would get Core(+SG) S2Xmen SG S1 SG Than like both sinister sixes boxes(new sinistersix comes with variable exclusive play and is considered a very good box to own)

[@Unreal_BE]

@@michaellai968 Thanks for the very indept answer! I am definitly getting core + SG. I was still doubting getting the hearld pledge since I like the big galactus miniature and the 2 stretch goals are actually really expansive ( getting both is definity above my budget).

[@michaellai968]

@@Unreal_BE if I had to choose between getting one of the 2 SG boxes I think xmen is better (just because it’s season 2 so improvements were made) but season 1 definitely has more characters that people would know in terms of MCU etc :) glad I could help!

[@GamingWithGeo]

I don't particularly care about most of the multiverse characters, so it's an easy no for me. I'll pick up the few characters I do want later.

[@ZacErickson1906]

Campaign Decks are NOT good for casual buyers. They specifically state that they recommend that you have ALL Marvel United expansions and campaigns. You won’t get good value without it.

[@jonathangillies6531]

I thought I was done with all in on xmen, then I saw Cosmic Ghost Rider and had to back, naturally have to get Galactus too right? Wow teams decks look sweet add to cart! And man classic Nick Fury! You never see him anywhere I’m in on that. Shoot my kid likes Goliath because he’s a huge piece, and probably should get it for the PVP mode. Wait Maximum Carnage!!! Modular sinister 6!!!! Heck yeah added. Pets? Well kids made that an auto buy. Oooh campaign decks, but I need the rest of this KS to play them all……………… So how much is the all in again??

[@Vulturnos]

Alex, I love your videos but sometimes you talk wayyyy too fast for me to keep up.

[@millr8222]

You can slow the video down and try to tame this fast tongue!

[@BoardGameCo]

Sorry!

[@Vulturnos]

@@BoardGameCo Its ok. Just bear in mind that sometimes your audience is from a foreign country. Its not a complain, just some constructive criticism cause i like you and your channel =).

[@Kojimalosophy]

Alex is like the Ben Shapiro of the Board Gaming industry lol

[@lit_wick]

I'm over neoprene mats. Most tcg/ccg players prefer cloth mats. Every board gamer should pay $35 for a nice spellground or MetaMat and enjoy the luxury us card gamers enjoy. I don't play board game on game specific neoprene mat, I just use my pvramid mat. I plan to do the same with this KS. Most games that have custom mats, just buy a good one size fits all quality cloth mat. Youll thank me.

[@kevins2726]

But I want it all!

[@michaelmueller260]

No. Not even worth considering paying these ridiculous prices for a cheap and simple mass market game.

[@cincydooley]

K.

[@BoardGameCo]

Weirdly enough...they keep selling it because people have decided it's worth it.

[@michaelmueller260]

Was that the question though? For the people that already love the game and will surely enjoy more stuff...of course it's worth it to them. If the price was tripled and some were still willing to pay because they would get enough enjoyment out of it, then that's also worth it to them. In addition to answering the question from my personal perspective, my point was to offer a dissenting opinion to anyone who currently doesn't own the game and might be considering jumping in. People should at least be aware that behind all of the hype and bluster, not everyone thinks it's some amazing game that they are missing out on. Yes of course that's a matter of opinion, but it's no less valid of an opinion than those hyping the game. The question is "Should You Back It?". I'm sorry that our answers aren't the same, but that doesn't make my answer wrong.

[@cincydooley]

@@michaelmueller260 “Not even worth considering” is a bold stance. You seem to have a lot of those.

[@michaelmueller260]

@@cincydooley Just giving my honest opinion. I don't think it's that bold.