Mary Beard: Women in Power

[@puredoxykk.s.c.2287]

This was INCREDIBLE. Absolutely riveting -- clear, honest, and smart as hell. Changed some of my views and taught me others; Mary is a believable and enthusiastic expert, and what she has to say here is both historically fascinating and vitally relevant to the future. THANK YOU for making this available! Love, A struggling American feminist.

[@londonreviewofbooks]

You're welcome! Glad you enjoyed it.

[@hansbelwitz9575]

And if so: does it matter?

[@mercedomful]

0:17

[@amhunter9619]

A great lady and a great presenter - power to you Mary!

[@wernervanrooyen4697]

Mary Beard is fast becoming my heroine!

[@JaneCWoods]

Brilliant, as ever. Entertaining, illuminating, and ultimately, empowering. I love this woman!

[@katjak4461]

Thank you for publishing this. I was gutted when I just missed to get tickets for this (I was there for her previous talk in 2014) last December. This brings me back to my old student days when I loved the lectures I attended. Great relevant topic too...

[@Bo_Lew]

Great Q&A at 56:10. As a high school teacher I really appreciate Beard's response to the question of how to teach ancient mythology to young people through the kind of critical lens that she's arguing for.

[@AvivaHadas]

Thank you so much for posting this lecture.

[@brianscates5225]

No subtitles - why is this? If you are learning English then subtitles in English are extremely useful; please provide them; if not why not? Are they expensive or copyrighted? The entire lecture is recorded anyway.

[@jenniferm.giroux9086]

Mary Beard rocks it! 😀 I always learn something new from her! 😊

[@joanbrate]

I understand about women not being taken seriously....I stated something and was ignored, but a male who stole my idea was welcomed.... this happened to me over and over and I truly resent the implications.

[@cesruhf2605]

Maybe since that guy is much larger and louder you should try and use your critical thinking to conpensate

[@luckystoller6171]

@@cesruhf2605 There is no way to even those odds until we raise a generation of feminist men.

[@captainzork6109]

​​​@@luckystoller6171 I doubt that's enough. Inclusivity is hard, and men are sometimes taken less seriously as well (e.g., when men show themselves as vulnerable / human). This is not to downplay the specific matter of gender discrimination, but to allude to a more general kind of group dynamics That is to say: I think in addition to being feminist, we should understand it is bad manners to neglect others, and we should all strive to make people feel heard -- especially when you're supposed to work together! People should be taken seriously, regardless of whether they're less charismatic, less loud, not your type of person, or a woman. Inclusivity is kindness, and kindness is an active process!

[@luckystoller6171]

@@captainzork6109 Captain, you're absolutely right. I didn't mean to make light of men's travail's--I'm distressed to hear that men's vulnerability, for which we've hoped and prayed, is not valued! Don't let it get you down. If those around you don't appreciate your feeling, you're with the wrong crowd.

[@kcsunshine4008]

Have just read her book based on this talk. A very important document for the 21st century. Women, even in the Western liberal societies, are still on the receiving end of a variety of insidious forms of intimidation tactics or out and out silencing techniques and still being compromised on many levels.... ( serious female historians judged only on their looks or fashion taste, Harry Potter author told NOT to use her full name as it was feared boys wouldn’t read anything written by a woman, the female astronaut Samantha Cristoforetti being unmarried and childless while all her male counterparts on ISS are married with 1-4 children living fatherless for months, many full time working wives/mums on basic salaries having to do all/most of the unpaid housework/childcare anyway - otherwise she’ll she feel guilty she’s a bad wife or mother.... the list is endless of modern examples that I’ve been observing as an adult .). So I’m eternally grateful to Professor Beard for this enlightening talk/book.

[@Vivianeboavista]

More of this please!

[@quanaramirasherman]

This lady ROCKS. #wonderwoman

[@JussaraAlmeida2912]

She's brilliant! Thank you for sharing this, London Review of Books

[@nutsaboutnames3805]

That image of Trump as Perseus and Hillary Clinton as the severed head of Medusa was disturbing. People are sick.

[@claudius_drusus_]

I find it HILLarious.

[@ebe7840]

@@claudius_drusus_ i cant Trump that......

[@claudius_drusus_]

@@paulastiles8873 Trump hasn't lost, troglodyte. Trump won and he WON BY A LOT. MAGA 2020!!!

[@davidkellett4794]

@@claudius_drusus_ lol remember when stormy daniels said his wiener looked like "the little mushroom guy from mario kart"

[@claudius_drusus_]

@@davidkellett4794 Trump won. XD 😆 🏆 🇺🇸

[@christophloewen174]

Thank You for posting this! 👍🏼 Can’t say enough about Dame Mary Beard. She has to be the most unassuming Cambridge Professor I’ve ever seen! Brilliant, entertaining, funny as hell and simply cool.

[@MrsDarcie]

Mary Beard

[@luckystoller6171]

Just because Athena is said to have sprung full grown from the head of Zeus doesn't mean we should gasp in awe every time a man has a migraine. And love to Mary Beard!

[@theGrooveChampion]

Mary Beard is Awesome!

[@mrdfac]

Thanks for this upload. Excellent!

[@vinix333]

Awesome! Jordan Peterson should watch this lecture!

[@thefirm4606]

😂😂😂

[@SimonOBrien-be8qt]

Too busy tustling with Lobsters

[@cesruhf2605]

nah he too busy looking at the facts rather than fEeLiNgS

[@aprilbehnke9611]

Unsuprisingly, rock star Mary Beard hits the nail on the head: "The ancient world is preoccupied by gender because patriarchy is never easy with itself."

[@splinterbyrd]

There is no evidence that ancient society was especially preoccupied by gender.

[@rogerthijs7256]

WE think NOW, THESEDAYS that in the ancient world people where busy with ideas and toughts that are fuzzing around in our minds. Think again... There is a gap of more than two - thousand years between them and us - life was different, opportunities where different ; we would not recognize the whole " concept " of their ideas about what society means , if whe where able to go there.

[@splinterbyrd]

@@paulastiles8873 I think they were more interested in the political threat of Egypt than by the Queen's gender

[@splinterbyrd]

@@paulastiles8873 Evidently there was no need for feminism in the ancient world

[@splinterbyrd]

@@paulastiles8873 I've never heard of Queen Cleopatra or any of the other numerous queens, female property and landowners or super-rich prostitutes of the ancient world bleating about patriarchy.

[@idealironyify]

Brilliant

[@michaelcasey9037]

The foundational myths have no relevance to-day. Women have achieved equality. If Prof Beard admitted that she' have nothing to talk about.

[@izabellemitchell8423]

@@michaelcasey9037 In lots of countries women will be stoned to death for not wearing what men tell them to. hundreds of thousands of CHILDREN are sold to old men every year to become wives and give them children. there are many laws even in the west against women's rights to their own bodies, and that's only discussing laws... socially there are many double standards and abuse rates are so much higher towards women. do some research

[@thefirm4606]

@@michaelcasey9037 no they haven’t

[@jenniferlevine5406]

Excellent lecture! Mary is amazing.

[@herbspencer4332]

The Old Greeks were a Warrior Society: their values have persisted thru Europe thereafter.

[@brokinnaggises]

I need to up my vocabulary! Im sure this is a great speech/lecture😞

[@maryh4650]

There are GOOD men and women and BAD men and women, kindness and compassion is not reserved for either sex. Great talk, by Mary.

[@jamesneedham6265]

I think the problem is we deny their was once a very logical reason for not giving women power, child birth. Child birth was once such a risk to women in terms of temporary incapacity, death or disability that an important woman was a real risk. In fact given that every death in pre-modern society resulted in a violent power struggle, having more women in power would have resulted extremely violent society with bids for power timed around pregnancies knowing the queen herself would be less able to fight and organize an army, Elizabeth the 1st most likely realised this fearing that is she became pregnant that it would lead to an invasion attempt by the catholic powers . Modern medicine and a less militaristic society means women non longer are subject to this danger and so the barriers to power are a hang over of ideology shaped by a defunct reality.

[@cesruhf2605]

Yeah not to mention the biological differences.

[@captainzork6109]

This is a thought I had as well. But I think this answer came from the rather uncreative question: "why would it have been that way?" Your answer would be rather different if you knew about a successful empire with women in power, and you'd have to imagine how they found their way around the issue of childbirth. I can think of a few ways Besides, the female is the bringer of new life. Should that not give her automatic status, and therefore power? Well, there were some native tribes who thought this way! Finally, don't you think the issue of maternity leave is much less an issue as compared to men dying on the battlefield super fucking often?? Death leads to far more instability in the social order than maternity leave, methinks

[@whtalt92]

You'd expect the argument of men going off to war with another city state and inconveniently getting themselves and many others killed would be more reason to not give men power!

[@byronaulakiotis1721]

Plutarch quotes Queen Gorgo as follows: "When asked by a woman from Attica, 'Why are you Spartan women the only ones who can rule men?', she said: 'Because we are also the only ones who give birth to men.'" Another version has this as, "...some foreign lady, as it would seem, told her that the women of Lacedaemon were the only women in the world who could rule men; 'With good reason,' she said, 'for we are the only women who bring forth men.'" (Plutarch's Lives: Lycurgus)[12] en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gorgo,_Queen_of_Sparta

[@byronaulakiotis1721]

in the Greek mainland Hera was especially worshipped as "Argive Hera" (Hera Argeia) at her sanctuary that stood between the former Mycenaean city-states of Argos and Mycenae,[14][15] where the festivals in her honor called Heraia were celebrated. "The three cities I love best," the ox-eyed Queen of Heaven declares in the Iliad, book iv, "are Argos, Sparta and Mycenae of the broad streets." There were also temples to Hera in Olympia, Corinth, Tiryns, Perachora and the sacred island of Delos. In Magna Graecia, two Doric temples to Hera were constructed at Paestum, about 550 BCE and about 450 BCE. One of them, long called the Temple of Poseidon was identified in the 1950s as a second temple there of Hera.[16] In Euboea, the festival of the Great Daedala, sacred to Hera, was celebrated on a sixty-year cycle. Hera's importance in the early archaic period is attested by the large building projects undertaken in her honor. The temples of Hera in the two main centers of her cult, the Heraion of Samos and the Heraion of Argos in the Argolis, were the very earliest monumental Greek temples constructed, in the 8th century BCE.[17] en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hera

[@byronaulakiotis1721]

While ancient Greek vase-painters and relief carvers imagined Medusa and her sisters as having monstrous form, sculptors and vase-painters of the fifth century began to envisage her as being beautiful as well as terrifying. In an ode written in 490 BC Pindar already speaks of "fair-cheeked Medusa".[6] In a late version of the Medusa myth, related by the Roman poet Ovid ... en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medusa

[@susiecrawfish5363]

Excellent.

[@herbspencer4332]

Prof. Beard illustrates why Studying the Classics core to western Male education.

[@다미최-w5b]

We need people like Mary People who do not give a damn how they look are so refreshing. People put too much emphasis on appearance.Well done.

[@byronaulakiotis1721]

Aristotle considered the region around Dodona to have been part of Hellas and the region where the Hellenes originated.[2] According to Nicholas Hammond, Dodona was an oracle devoted to a Mother Goddess(identified at other sites with Rhea or Gaia, but here called Dione) who was joined and partly supplanted in historical times by the Greekdeity Zeus.[5] en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodona

[@Tsumami__]

The fact that there’s even a sect of feminists who are hell bent on proving the amazons actually existed reminds me that womens rights truly is an intersectional problem. Instead of focusing on women from non white cultures that held powerful positions, functioned as generals, soldiers, etc., there of course has to be a desperate attempt to prove European women in ancient history were more than just chattel. It’s the same obsession that white supremacy groups throughout time have had with rome and Greece as bastions of “old European power”, meanwhile maligning achievements of cultures outside of the white European world. White feminists and the obsession with the amazons is an echo of the same thing, albeit less of a conscious effort.

[@cosimopastia8389]

I make a premise, in order not to be misunderstood: I really like Mary Beard, I am in favour of the empowerment process that is going on for women, I understand that women have been socially segregated for millennia, and something has to be made about it (I mean something real, not just words). That being said, even though I liked the proposal for the redefinition of power in our society (which is a male construct), I believe that feminism overlook a very deep aspect of women's social life, especially contemporary one. I studied in Milan, 10 years ago, I remember when one of my female classmates told me how some of her "friends" used to go to fancy bars, in order to catch the eye of the rich entrepeneurs, sometimes get gifts, drinks and so on (sometimes something else). I have seen many women playing on their attractiveness to do whatever they pleased. It worked a lot on many people, me included. I understand it often may be a defensive tool fitted for a world where they are phisically weak, subject to rape and violence (which is the worst abomination). That being said, what I really want to say is about "feminism" is: we (men) surely are bastards, women are surely not angels. What I do not like about femist narrative is the generalization about how NOW women have still NO power (even though Mary talks about the 30% MPs). I feel it is not the case, but these kind of statements are usually misunderstood as like I wanted to turn the clock 200 years from now in the past. Again, I do believe that equal pay, equal opportunities, equal rights and a true feeling of repentence (for what the past has been) from us men has to be produced. I do not like this subtle message that women are still powerless being in the western world. It's the kind of lie which doesn't help with people like me, but maybe we are still too behind, so we may need this bitter medicine to progress to a better future.

[@kaatvanspaendonck2045]

What are some typical examples of abusive symbols being reclaimed (succes- or unsuccesfully? I'm very curious!

[@captainzork6109]

Idk about female symbols, but the n-word is one good example, methinks

[@ira-usa713]

Thank you, Mary Beard! ... I'd only say that many of us do not feel such a heavy weight from certain negative symbols. TONS of people are working creatively ... I feel like Prof. Beard dismisses this too emphatically.

[@byronaulakiotis1721]

In Plato's Symposium the members of a party discuss the meaning of love. Socrates says that in his youth he was taught "the philosophy of love" by Diotima, who was a seer or priestess. Socrates also claims that Diotima successfully postponed the Plague of Athens. In a dialogue that Socrates recounts at the symposium, Diotima says that Socrates has confused the idea of love with the idea of the beloved. Love, she says, is neither fully beautiful nor good, as the earlier speakers in the dialogue had argued. Diotima gives Socrates a genealogy of Love (Eros), stating that he is the son of "resource (poros) and poverty (penia)" en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diotima_of_Mantinea

[@SimonOBrien-be8qt]

Yeah yeah taught him the "philosophy of love", I bet.

[@carmenperea4668]

MARAVILLOSA!!!!

[@giacomobracco2075]

She's so right

[@herbspencer4332]

Women are needed in Power to expand and CO-OPERATIVE values.

[@j0nnyism]

The problem affecting women is the type of women or man who does look for and gain political power. I’m sure most people would agree that Margaret thatcher is not a typical women

[@cesruhf2605]

Mrs beard says men hate women in the past so we still do that?

[@karenw9366]

I love Mary Beard!!! And it’s true! Look at the anti-heroine Circe! She has power but she is labelled a “witch” and isolated on an island by her own father!

[@shakiraha.9030]

Anyone from school??

[@cesruhf2605]

yeah, this a pain

[@byronaulakiotis1721]

The origins of the name "Poseidon" are unclear. One theory breaks it down into an element meaning "husband" or "lord" (Greek πόσις (posis), from PIE *pótis) and another element meaning "earth" (δᾶ (da), Doric for γῆ(gē)), producing something like lord or spouse of Da, i.e. of the earth; this would link him with Demeter, "Earth-mother".[12 en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poseidon

[@leonardniamh]

You are as important as RBG I play this on a loop dealing with a legal issue involving my brother

[@thirdpowerful1]

I refused to give directions to a woman lost in my neighborhood yesterday, lest I be accused of mansplaining.

[@aleka..]

hahaha, funny. not. I see you were not able to question your superpowers to understand concepts you haven read a word about. 🤦🏻 mansplain ≠ any explaining given by a man.

[@cesruhf2605]

@@aleka.. finally a femenists with a working brain

[@petermelian1346]

Nostra cara matertera Maria, sicut crocodilus lascivus lacrimat : " Homunculus pilum mutat, non mentem. Quos dii muliereres volunt perdere prius virorum coleus pilosos dant ".

[@karolina9845]

can you enable cc please?

[@DaveBath]

Love Mary Beard, but it's easy to say Lysistrata ends badly, while not addressing the more relevant Aristophanes play "Ekklesiazousai", which ends with Praxagora's coup intact, the women's socialist state is running smoothly, the men are wondering about how motivation will work when the state provides everything as they are enjoying the fruits of women running everything. Ok, Marx and Engels are not going to be completely happy, as there are still slaves ... Praxagora's arguments critical of how men have botched the economics, distributing resources poorly, makes a lot of sense. And yes, Aristophanes was writing satire, not feminism. Criticising Lysistrata as "not at all girl power" is easy, it is punching down. I'd be very interested in hearing Mary's analysis of Praxagora's story.

[@slm8025]

I think Ms Beard has so many great insights and gives not just women hope, but men too. Problem is, no one is answering the simple question to how can women get their lives equal to Males in so many ways if they make Males the perfect enemy? Instead of having Males on their team to reach and get the golden ring. I have been attacked by too many WOMEN POWER TYPES. Many Males get the message loud and clear, we are hated by women and blamed for behavior we ourselves as Males do not approve of either,..., and yet we are not allowed to be seen as non-combatants. Saw Ms Beard on TV just now and I have to pose something she said, KNOW what you need to change. Right now it seems that Males as whole are all bad people.

[@hansbelwitz9575]

You seem to have some serious problems, guy.

[@francescampell2640]

That is Professor Beard to you, you sad little prick.

[@thefirm4606]

I don’t think women have made males the perfect enemy. I think that this is a reaction by a lot of men from women who have always been the “downfall “of men throughout history. We were the original enemy, from the garden of Eden onwards. When I’m asked by men what they can do, my answer is support us. Not just in your own personal life, but to the men out there who continue the practice. It’s simple, say something. To those who are still part of the patriarchal system, say something. These people will listen to you far quicker than they will listen to me. If I say something I am a whingeing feminazi. If you say something, you will get heard.

[@tom123knightley]

Would a ‘world run by women’ really be as peaceful as is often claimed/fantasised? Humans would still face the same challenges they do now, so there would be plenty to fight about. Is the aim really to have equality of outcome in everything? Is it really a logically valid point to say “here is inequality therefore there must be oppression/exclusion”? Might it be true that there are lots of roles in a society, and people tend to be born suited to certain roles more than others? Is it untrue that men and women often have common differences with each other in terms of personality? Might it be true that men and women tend to make different choices on certain issues? Wouldn’t that be okay? What good things would a feminist utopia lack (humour?)? Is it good to see the world as men vs women?

[@vaunniethayer1484]

Tom Knightley, first of all, it is men who created the men vs women world not women. I don’ t think that women want to follow that male paradigm after feeling the damage first hand of what it has done to over half of the human race. I think it is difficult for men to contemplate that others don’ t see the world the same way they do. The ironic thing is feminism in my view is about equality for both men and women, however when men have had the upper hand for so long they would of course view any loss of their power as a great injustice. I have no illusions that men will give anything to others without a struggle until they begin to appreciate just how stacked the deck really is, and even then many of them will simply look at the situation and say “ sucks to be you”. Patriarchy breeds fear and distrust with primary focus on control. It really serves no one well. The relationship of master to slave corrupts everyone in one form or another.,

[@thefirm4606]

@@vaunniethayer1484 It’s funny (not), how any supposed matriarchal society would be seen as the mirror to a patriarchal society. Like exactly the same things would be done just by women. The possibility that there is another alternative that would work well for all genders seems so alien as to not be possible or even true. I think it’s the fear of actually having the same things done to them that they have done to us.

[@eldanardo5477]

In the late 19th century, philosophers looked at the success scientists had in developing verifiably true models, and their failure to do so. Many realized their job was not to describe the world around them, but to develop tools and formalize the questions that could be used to describe the world under the scientific method. It's about time people in the Arts followed suit - so much of Mary's description of the world is verifiably wrong, from lowering the pitch of the (woman's) voice to perceptions of strength and dominance. If you don't have a foot in evolutionary biology, you should not be an authority on history, unless you relegate yourself to simply reading manuscripts and cataloging that information.

[@joanbrate]

Never saw the trump/perseus/clinton character.

[@margyrowland]

Disappointed. Women in the West can say whatever they want. I’d much rather hear Mary talk about Caligula. Love from Australia 🇦🇺

[@linchen008]

You can say what you want, but you can't handle public power because it's not "female". Still, today, you're right. That's disappointing.

[@enriquepenanieto4398]

linchen008 nobody says that except feminists that act the victim.

[@thefirm4606]

@@enriquepenanieto4398 and yet here you are...

[@KIDWITDEGUN]

"Women in Power" is not an idea! Forced workplace nurseries, family friendly hours,... now these are ideas. Bad ones, but ideas...

[@hansbelwitz9575]

Perhaps a bad idea for you being forced to spend more time with your kids instead of being allowed to work ... :-) I by my self enjoyed the legally secured parental leave I had with my kids when they where infants after birth (I'm European, Americans have't much rights in this case). I also have the right to spend 10 days a year home with full salary when my kids are sick (up to the age of 10). I don't see what's so bad with this. And don't say economy can't afford it - I think we in Europe have a pretty strong economy - perhaps not instead but because our social rights and relative gender equality (of course there are differences within Europe). But remember one of the most leading nations in equality (Sweden) has also one of the strongest economy - perhaps Mr. Trump should rather try to learn something from it than trying to mob Scandinavia. Now I as a male have to thank the movement for equality to have these above mentioned rights; men didn't fight for them as t h e i r rights. So it seems to me y o u don't realize that women equality will give you as a male also more rights.

[@cesruhf2605]

59:18 Self report herself. clearly her goal isn't to get gender equality.

[@tierradecampos15]

Ojalá pusieran subtítulos en español

[@car-or-ock616]

I watched 4 hours of Mary Beard's television program on the Romans. As a student of classical urbanism, I gleaned just one thing from the entire presentation. Unfortunately, it's lost to me now, flooded by the other 340-some other minutes of 'stuff.' Similarly here, I am left with little to take away. 'Ourland' should be read as misandry, or the hatred of men. Ms. Beard, a scholar in ancient Greek would tell us that, “mis” means hatred, and “andro“ means male. How a book that is the flip side of misogyny should be bookend a lecture by an enlightened personality is beyond my grasp. The spectacle of an academic returning to 'mansplaining' as a touchstone for the lecture's thesis is also hard to fathom, since Ms. Beard is doing just that: academic-splaining to the rest of us about the deeper themes in antiquity. Which of course is what we came here for, since the lecturer has spent an entire lifetime looking at the classics, and as the audience, we eagerly await learning from a presentation of her findings. The challenge here is to think critically about the subject being presented. The Medusa story is slanted in the direction of politics and public life. Somehow, while male politicians have been lampooned and lambasted for time immemorial, now that our first female politicians have taken the stage, somehow they ought to be treated differently. We cannot 'laugh' at Hillary Clinton being shown as the trophy of a Donald Trump posed in classical gear. Really? That's too bad. This world being presented as feminist utopia-if I have the reading right that it is mirroring 'Ourland'-bereft of what the folks across the Channel call 'Vive la Difference,' is also cleansed of mockery and laughter. If Boris really did lose the 'Greece vs Roma' debate, then he won the prize for cracking the most jokes, even self-deprecating ones. The Medusa, in my view, is the depiction of the female on autopilot, unaware of her own unconscious, and most definitely something to guard against. However, the same applies to males who have not integrated their own psychology. Although these are Freudian or Jungian themes, Freud was mentioned in this regard, albeit to make a different sort of point. There are more and better ways to interpret a 'Goddess born of the mind of Zeus,' than a man having a headache. Surely we must ponder the imagination informing Greek mythology where such a tale could be transmitted without much ado. What insight into that society is being passed on? How does it reflect on that foundational aspect of the individual, the family, and the community more generally-the relationship between the daughter and her father? I am a Dad. I have a daughter I love and treasure. How does my understanding of our relationship change when I hear about Zeus 'birthing his daughter from his mind?' Does it play to our parenting and how we imagined their future lives when they were tots in our care, say during their first five years? Feminism is a much deeper subject than has been presented here. Weighed equally, with the blindfold on, it is one of the most important developments in western culture. Perhaps 'the' most important. Coming about I suspect at precisely the right moment in historical time. Seen from outside the Postmodernist frame there is less focus on the 'rhetoric of the victimized' and a lot more blue skying.

[@halestorm123]

🖤

[@ashleyKennedy5]

Pity she never mentioned sexism that women push for. In Sumeria women had one day off in every 5 while men only had one day off in 10. In this way women pensionable age was 60 while men's pensionable age was 65. When equality was legislated for it was women who complained.

[@gailbracy3813]

o ffs

[@ashleyKennedy5]

@@gailbracy3813 Yep FFS says it all, women don't like equality.

[@cesruhf2605]

@@gailbracy3813 Equality is only good if it's for your gain 😂

[@gailbracy3813]

@@cesruhf2605 lol well ok then Sparky

[@cesruhf2605]

@@gailbracy3813 damn no argument, just like all modern feminists

[@sabetzero7715]

i think she's completly right but what i don't like is that she kind of dismisses male presenting women who want to present male. i guess it's not nice for a very femal presenting woman to present menly. but it's also not nice for male presenting women to present womanly.

[@linchen008]

... and power is male?

[@bebeteaux]

Her feminist analysis sounds much of an upper-class white woman.

[@jimisru]

In your series you show the Romans and Carthaginians at war, in their boats. And you say, you either fought to the death, or you were murdered. Expand that to the larger society and don't you think that has something to do with the separation of genders? Heterosexual men and women had to take on roles to survive the constant onslaught of potential wars. If you had women in the boat, it was thought, then instead of fighting, they would be distracted. It was simply a practical matter expanded out into myth. Most men back then had zero education, had never heard of Medusa and certainly did not know about feminism. They did what they were told and sent out either to labor on a farm or a battlefield. You say that when women consolidate power on a campus it is deeply effective. Well then the same would be true for men going into battle, or struggling to grow food using primitive tools. However, today gender doesn't make that much difference. And yes people can have children without heterosexual sex. Further, the population of the planet and climate change are destroying the habitat. This is a different paradigm for genders roles. Having more children causes habitat collapse. Thus we have to look further into biology to set up new systems of survival, using science and civil rights. One last thing, I never saw that image of Hillary until now. I have however seen the image of her smiling brightly with Donald at a posh party. Donald supported the Democrats and the Clintons prior to all of this. Hillary was not a victim. She is a player in the world military economy. www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&id=91C1630E2F68BAFDC43A62C12D399E38D891F67B&thid=OIP.9bK4991eIpZ42SfXNPrIHgHaEy&mediaurl=http%3A%2F%2Fmarijuanapolitics.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2015%2F08%2FTrumpsClintonsParty.jpg&exph=1941&expw=3000&q=hillary+and+trump+party&selectedindex=13&ajaxhist=0&vt=0&eim=1,2,6

[@lorraineaylward8167]

Dude, you might want to dial back your "heterosexual" crap. For example, Achilles and Patroclus were lovers. Heterosexual hahahaha

[@enriquepenanieto4398]

Nah he was making business with the Clintons. It’s true that he was democrat for a time but he’s always had the same ideas.

[@claudius_drusus_]

@@lorraineaylward8167Odysseus survived and both achilles and patroclus died.

[@lorraineaylward8167]

@@claudius_drusus_ We don't actually know when or how Achilles dies, since Homer doesn't tell us. I was responding to someone (the "Dude" I referenced in my answer) who thinks Greeks valued heterosexual relationships. THEY DID NOT. I pointed out Achilles and Patroclus were lovers. That is why Achilles went all out when Patroclus was killed.

[@kellywilson6557]

James Ru I personally find it interesting how China and India are responsible for most of the overpopulation of the earth, but never get called out on it. They are also the two countries who pollute the most and never get called out on it. They are considered victims and play the part all too well.

[@byronaulakiotis1721]

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atalanta

[@marcob4630]

Mary is for "woman power" - a onesided feminist because power should be equally divided between men and women. If not, we'll be ruled by androboulons: not nicer than onesided menpower. There is also a genetical factor: men are generally more competitive than women almost in all: career, sports, politcs, economics and so on. This is related with our past: all military and political power since the most ancient times belonged to men and in all civilisations. Not only military, but also religious power which submitted women: paradoxally the most religious followers are always women. Even nowadays there are far more women than men praying in churches. I dont believe that things will change also because of womens preference to have men as rulers. Often they feel more sure under menpower : this is the reason that many women themselves don't vote for women ! (for. ex. for Hillary, or Thachter, Theresa May ,...etc.)

[@nycbearff]

Women don't exist in isolation - when women are hobbled and prevented from contributing to their fullest, we all lose. We are all together in this. If you just want a maid, hire a maid. If you just want a cook, hire a cook. Forcing women into subservient roles when they have the capacity to do great things is just stupid.

[@thefirm4606]

And yet you are here... lol!

[@gall0n]

My mum and dad brought me up not her!

[@serviustullus7204]

Not much hard logic, but lots of symbolism. Gimbutas was more accurate but less useful.

[@thecultofjohnnydelr.soulsw7010]

No good, the irony.

[@axlkay3628]

antiscience of woke cultire and misandristic feminism has flowed in academic space and minds distording science itself and reality

[@gailbracy3813]

You sound nervous

[@kathyheyne6030]

@@gailbracy3813 and in need of spellcheck, too 🙂

[@gailbracy3813]

@@kathyheyne6030

[@jakeroosenbloom]

I would have loved to listen to this but Mary makes too many assumptions and tries to put words in people's mouths a lot. And no Mary, this has nothing to do with the fact that you are a woman.

[@aletheiai]

""Mary makes too many assumptions and tries to put words in people's mouths"" Examples?

[@Omariau]

It's bad when I just take a glimpse at you and I know what are your ideas and what the lecture will be about. It's really bad.

[@gailbracy3813]

what???

[@DarkZtorm]

She should stick to other stuff than this crap.

[@KleineLSDWachtel]

lots of words nothing to say

[@cbebutuoy]

two ears still can't hear

[@thefirm4606]

@@cbebutuoy 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@ricardocima]

Drivel.