Mary Tudor: Sister of Henry VIII

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[@nataliewisdom4790]

Love ur channel ur episode about Anne of cleves got me to subscribe because you were so very insightful

[@OnomatopoeiaOlly]

I'm only a fan of yourself, however I always interpreted the scene where Margaret died in milk as more symbolic of her cause of death. Back then "consumption" (if I remember that's what they said was her cause of death) could have been passed through unhygienic living and contaminated milk! Anyway that's the link I made. Although again I'm no media expert.

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[@LoveNathasha]

One of the few women who defied Henry the 8th (by marrying without his permission) and didn’t lose her head!

[@wednesdayschild3627]

He would not dare. They believed royalty was favored by God. Imo that is wht Henry turned on Anne after catherine died. He raised his hand to a royal.

[@wendygerrish4964]

The money, remember the money into Henry's coffers from France.

[@Shane-Flanagan]

@@wendygerrish4964 Mary was lucky Henry didn't marry her off again for the sake of the money 💰🤑

[@annstillwell730]

It's rumored she smuggled a very big diamond from France that her husband had given to her and turned it over to Henry. Q King Francois e as said to be really mad about it at the time.

[@jonathananderinholmes8318]

​@@wednesdayschild3627 do you mean to say that henry didnt really see anne as a royal? (because i know i dont, i see her as raised by the king,) he saw catherine as a royal for obvious reasons, but are we speculating that he really pushed for annes ultimate downfall because she actually, by blood birth, was not a royal? i have wondered this myself, because he only executed the 2 queens of low-birth as compared to the queens of royal birth like catherine of aragon or anne of cleves- you cant touch a lady who has a whole royal house behind her in her native country. but anne boelyn? toast. she had no international family to defend her. i think thats perhaps why henry was able to do away -specifically- with her the way he did, yet he "allowed" for his other divorced royal-blood queens to merely "retire" to some other property.

[@lynnedelacy2841]

What about looking at Charles Brandon’s life The one person who seemed to be able to keep his friendship with the turbulent Henry all his life

[@adunreathcooper]

So often we see friends falling out when power dynamics change, in history, but it seems that Henry and Charles really were as thick as thieves, boyhood friends who really were friends.

[@IbnTufayl1]

Great suggestion! I second that!

[@RABuffat]

I’d be curious to know if one or both of his parents were narcissistic for him to have learned such tolerance for Henry’s shenanigans.

[@wednesdayschild3627]

Kinda amazing Brandon kept his head.

[@Shane-Flanagan]

@mbd It was easier to agree with Henry than oppose him

[@RABuffat]

I started watching The Tudors during the pandemic lockdown last year. I knew almost nothing of Tudor history but immediately knew the bit about Margaret and the King of Portugal had to be embellished. So I did what anyone would do.... consulted Dr. Google. Then I became more confused, but at least more wary of The Tudors. I started googling many of the story lines and characters, then finding youtube vids on the topics. That’s how I found you Dr. Kat. And what a great find! Thank you!

[@Raven_Nivhaar]

It was the same for me! I had started googling things and then KZbin decided to recommend Dr. Kat. Best recommendation KZbin has ever made!

[@MartinHomeVideo]

Everything bad is good for something.

[@Amelia7o9]

I love the Tudors but that's because I'm well versed in the history and enjoy watching the wildly-inaccurate mess in front of me. And they tried way more than Reign ever did.

[@theloverlyladylo9158]

Whenever I think of the Tudors, I think of the wise words of my Tudor England professor: "This show took reality, and it took of its clothes off, and then twisted and contorted it ways that look very impressive on screen but never happen in real life". Yes, he opened class by calling the reason most people were there the porn version of history. And that's why he's one of my favorite professors to this day.

[@ReadingthePast]

He sounds like really good fun 🤩

[@cassiemontgomery45]

Your professor is absolutely right. As long as something is titillating, people will watch, especially in the USA. Sex sells.

[@skontheroad]

I found the Tudors good fun to watch. But it did really bother me that the Gabriele Anwar character was Margaret. Unnecessary. Otherwise it helped turn people onto the Tudors craze, and as the daughter of a history professor, I knew the history, but the show helped me learn some new things and I went on to research it even more. Like it or not, many people are here bc they were turned onto the Anne Boleyn story from either the show, Phillipa Gregory's books, or some other modern discussion about the topic. Even this channel likely exists bc of those things and their popularity! Atleast the Tudors was better than that awful show Reign!

[@emilytemple3829]

I jumped intro tudor history by the white queen drama show all these years ago ( season 1 one via BBC more)

[@Janelane529]

I appreciate what they did right SO much. But how unbelievably frustrating that we could've had both Margaret and Mary Tudor, two incredibly interesting and intriguing plotlines... but instead we got some bastardization of both combined? And then throwing Portugal in the mix because you don't want to figure out France or Scotland within this weird his-sisters-aren't-married-yet by the time he's into Anne Boleyn timeline? It's one of my biggest frustrations with the show runners. And it's still one of my all-time favorites. It's just. Ugh. Also my boo Henry Cavill playing one of the least appealing people from the court of Henry VIII lol.

[@ns-wz1mx]

the tudor’s was THE show that got me into history. i still like the drama of it but i wish they could’ve been more true to history

[@jezpin3638]

Fun story: when Anne Boleyn was new on that show I was talking to a lady that I just met. she had only watched the show I have only read the history. When I said anne lost her head she told me off for the spoilers. My jaw hit the ground. I have NO GAUGE on the etiquette of spoilers for dramas based on historical events. I mean, there were people that disagreed with James Camerons choice to sink the Titanic. W. T. F. 🤦‍♀️

[@Mistydazzle]

Seek out & watch “The Six Wives of Henry VIII”, “Anne of a Thousand Days”, “Elizabeth R”, all made in the 1970’s.

[@ns-wz1mx]

@@Mistydazzle thank you!!!!

[@heatherstaskevicius33]

@@Mistydazzle the six wives of Henry the 8th....it hooked me I'd love to see that series again

[@lisakilmer2667]

@@Mistydazzle I remember watching the 6 Wives - really beautifully done, and I was completely hooked on the Tudors as a 12-year-old. I think the costumes were displayed at Hampton Court, maybe --- I remember seeing them somewhere and being dazzled. That series was a trailblazer because of its accuracy, which was unusual at the time for "period dramas" (look at Austen adaptations from the 70s!)

[@blackcatsandunicorns7594]

I was fortunate enough to live in the area of Bury St Edmunds for a time and accidentally discovered she was buried there while I just wandering taking in the history. Wasn't expecting to see a royal grave on a random Wednesday, but I was absolutely delighted.

[@julieblackstock8650]

I have been to the church to see her tomb, its very modest and then to Moyses Museum which has two locks of her red hair

[@ReadingthePast]

Ooo, thank you! I hadn’t considered that any of the locks would still survive 🙌 I’m adding another museum to my post lockdown list!!!

[@julieblackstock8650]

@@ReadingthePast if you like the macabre the museum also has William Corders death head and a book bound with his skin!! *red barn murder*

[@lenabreijer1311]

But all hair turns red after death. Something to do with decomposition.

[@scz1770]

Hair can frequently turn red after death when it oxidizes. I doubt very much it's actually hers.

[@julieblackstock8650]

@@scz1770 really. You must be one of those armchair experts

[@lululatsch]

What has always frustrated me is that they kept the dozens of different Thomas's, but just couldn't live with a couple of Marys.

[@catherineroyce3095]

Could you do comparison videos on the Starz series of The White Queen, The White Princess, and The Spanish Princess with how historically accurate/inaccurate they are?

[@gonefishing167]

Trust me, very inaccurate! But - a star of accuracy compared to Reign! I advised the Laughing a cavalier to refrain from watching it unless it do his blood pressure in! 🤣🤣. RIP Prince Philip. A staunch supporter of Her Majesty and a man of honour and integrity. A trait which is sadly lacking in this younger generation 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺

[@storytimetl]

@@gonefishing167 pretty sure Phillip’s generation had its fair share of wronguns

[@salomealhusami594]

Seconded

[@bluebellthesecond8353]

Great video Dr Kat as usual. I would also love you make one the Startz series.

[@jenniferf7711]

I loved the White Queen and The White Princess, even with the inaccuracies, as I love historical drama/fiction. I thought I would love it, but I was not a fan of The Spanish Princess.

[@gwynwellliver4489]

I have tried to watch "The Tudors" twice. I can't make it past the 3rd episode. Ha, ha. Seriously, the Tudors made so much drama on their own, they didn't need the writers to screw it up!

[@ginawiggles918]

I had the same experience. I'm a history buff and I want to see history portrayed accurately.

[@Jen321able]

I love all kind of period dramas and could never finish that one. Not really because of the accuracy but I just hated Henry for the most part.

[@helenpieske622]

I always imagine it plays in a parallel universe it really helps so you can judge it separately from the accuracy but even though I can do it I only watch it at midnight when I'm bored and just for the drama haha

[@leonieromanes7265]

Agreed.

[@karenstrong6734]

@@ginawiggles918 same, I tried but I couldn’t stand that shallow piece of trash. I was so glad I didn’t show my mother this show, instead I showed her the classic 1966 “A man for all seasons” with Paul scofield and Robert Shaw. But that movie only focuses on sir Thomas more. Sure the movie wasn’t 100 percent accurate, hey I find it way better than the tudors. I got her hooked to Tudor history, so we can get Tudor books from the library for her and I to read.

[@HattiesVlogs]

I studied film and in my opinion, the symbolism of the red on white could be a very over dramatic attempt to call to mind the colours of the tudor rose, on the other hand it could be a melodramatic plot contrivance.

[@ReadingthePast]

This is really interesting, thank you! I hadn’t made the possible Tudor rose connection 👍

[@StoriesbyIrish]

I thought it just made the red stand out more and thus the death that much more dramatic. Though maybe a mix of both since "Mary/Margaret" were Tudor.

[@Loostyc]

I'm sure they didn't mean it like that but drinking milk from infected cow was how many people caught one type of tuberculosis.

[@kalexander9392]

This has always been a major problem for me about the TV series. I’ve ranted to friends and strangers about how it completely ruins the story of Tudor succession! Great video!

[@Raven_Nivhaar]

Yes! I also love how they erased Mary, Queen of Scots entirely 😒 That was one of my major issues with the show, they erased one of the most important historical figures of the time period by combining Henry's sisters, in addition to the numerous other changes made for the sake of "drama"

[@CaptainPikeachu]

@@Raven_Nivhaar the thing is, they didn’t erase Mary Queen of Scots, she is literally named by Henry in the last season of the show, mentioning how James died and his child is a girl

[@beautyforashes2022]

I loved hearing Mary and Brandon's explanations to Henry on their marriage, especially Brandon's. Lol, she was crying, Henry, what was I supposed to do??? That is just too funny. ☺️ Also just wanted add, this is a great video, but I love all of your videos, so I'm kind of biased in that sense. 😉Was such a fascinating story to hear. Thank you so much for sharing all of your research and knowledge with us.

[@ruthanneseven]

"Bbut she was crying" had me really laughing! The dread of men- tears!

[@loralouise3865]

I have been watching your videos for awhile now and I feel like it’s time to leave a comment. You have a way of making me feel like you are speaking to me, personally. Your phrase of “you’re welcome “, is one greeting I have not heard anywhere else. I find it a very warm greeting and I find it very touching. Your videos are not only entertaining but very informative and interesting. I want to thank you for sharing your knowledge with us and the way you present it. I am near 60 and have been interested in the Tudors and other royal families since I was in middle school. Thankfully, I have many videos, books and other information about the Tudor history that I have enjoyed immensely. I enjoy how you present your material very much and I want to thank you for sharing your knowledge and understanding of this most interesting subject!

[@Laramaria2]

Mary (Rose)* Tudor was such an interesting person and she's often overlooked! I'm happy she's finally getting to be on the spotlight! *I got used to call her "Mary Rose" (as we see sometimes in literature) so when I talk about her, she's not mistaken with her niece 😬 *

[@Shane-Flanagan]

Yes such an interesting overlooked historical figure. Hard for her usually to get some spotlight as it's always being hogged by Henry and his Wives

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[@ReadingthePast]

Thank you 😊

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[@ReadingthePast]

Dr Kat: well... now I’m gonna have to have ice cream for breakfast tomorrow 🤷🏻‍♀️🙌

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@@patriciagodfrey6345 Don't forget the marshmallows 😹😻

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@@gigiw.7650 I think those count as the "salad". ;-)

[@Geo_Babe]

The Tudors has a super special place in my heart! Came out at just the right time with several of my all time fave actors I grew up with (Jonny Rhys Meyers, Jeremy Northam, Sam Neill?! ALL ⭐️⭐️⭐️!! It gets a far worse rap than it deserves. This show did not set out to create a documentary, it’s showtime people. However the shows creator Michael Hirst is someone who understands that one has to know the rules in order to break them - he understood the assignment. It really captures the essence / spirit of these characters I had spent my entire youth reading about - bringing them alive and into a way my brain could really relate to as a 20 year old in the modern world…looking at one Holbein portrait over and over to envision their features … and this show happened to bring them to life brilliantly. The drama was hilarious, and just that - drama to serve the narrative and intertwined fiction to appease a wide range of people (Tallis and Compton gay lovers?! I dig!)… that is how historical drama works… fiction is the best gateway drug to actual history no one can attest to this better than me, I became a 16C historian because of this show! So no one can truly say it doesn’t have some sort of heart to it… I’m not alone in this sentiment either! I’ve met others around my age who have had similar Experiences- that’s fun and totally worth celebrating! The rest is just fun to serve the greater story for the 21st century screen, it’s like, lighten up ya know? Anything that turns people onto history is worth celebrating… it’s also of no comparison whatsoever to the soap opera, lowly produced style of Reign or those Starz “White” Gregory based series! The Tudors was well researched and used their massive budget wisely the core of their performances and stories fleshed out. I’m also always baffled at the popular objection over “all the sex”?! To be fair, it was primarily the marketing (genius), in the pilot & usually the series ironically objectified the male actors rather than the women which was unusual for the mid 00s. The Tudors was in on the joke, and that is something the series and it’s creators hardly get credit for.

[@valgalloway6914]

I haven't watched the TV series, and now I know why. Such faffing around with reality would annoy the pants off me.

[@teresapaskell5459]

I’m so with you

[@POGGIOALSERE]

Agreed Let’s not waste time reviewing this trash... please

[@stephaniecowans3646]

I,too, consider "The Tudors" worthless trash TV. I so pity people who use that fiction as their source of history of the Tudor period.

[@bushwickbaby]

@@stephaniecowans3646 Instead of reading one of the many books about the Tudor period. The show is PAINFUL to watch...

[@lapetitechatmere6749]

I'm ashamed to admit I watched it. Inaccurate, terrible acting and too sexual. Don't waste your time. If you want to watch a sexy, historical fantasy, Bridgerton is great.

[@ladyalustriel1431]

I've had a love affair with European royal history for a few decades now that started with Henry VIII and his wives and spread outward from there. I am absolutely thrilled that I've found your videos. Thank you so much for the work you do producing them for us all to enjoy!

[@tetchedistress]

Her brother was a jerk. Again proven via history. Mary is one of my heroes. Thank you for another lovely video on a courageous woman of history.

[@ardiffley-zipkin9539]

Well done. I watched the Tudors as entertainment but realized that screen writers use “dramatic license.” That is often misguided since History, i.e. truth, is more intriguing than melodrama. Love your work !

[@dewrock2622]

In the Spanish princess, the story is a little different . Mary refuses to marry the king of France and Catherine of Aragon helps Henry and her arrive to the agreement that she will be able to choose her next husband. But I do question the portrayal of Margaret Tudor in that TV series.

[@migueltheauthor7074]

I absolutely prefer her portrayal in TSP than in the Tudors. Very much more accurate considering the many changes in the Tudors

[@scz1770]

Lmaoooo spanish princess and anything by philippa gregory is barely based in fact 😂😂😂 go read a book by alison weir

[@migueltheauthor7074]

@@scz1770 TSP still has a lot of errors, but their portrayal of Mary is better *compared to that in The Tudors*. Of course, the books are better for learning history

[@scz1770]

@@migueltheauthor7074 actual historical texts are good for reading history. Philippa gregory is not good for learning actual history from period

[@DipityS]

It's good to see at least one of the women surrounding Henry who got their own way 😀

[@megan867]

I would love to hear your thoughts on Margaret Tudor as well. I’ve been reading the novel Three Sisters Three Queens by Philipa Gregory and she’s the central character in the story and I know it’s historical fiction so liberties were taken but I found her a really compelling figure to look at. I guess I just wonder what’s really there for her rather than an author’s imagining. Love your videos so much thank you for this look into Mary!!

[@juliuswilliams4447]

Thanks!

[@livinggodsword5842]

I think it is so good that she at least got to marry the person she seemed to love. I love your channel!

[@Sophiemck]

The Tudors are and will always be my monarch obsession since school! I'm currently using the Sandalwood and Fig and can confirm it smells beautiful 😍

[@kathymoore9827]

Enjoyed this very much. I find the Tudors and that period fascinating. I also enjoy reading about Elizabeth Woodville and her mother, Jaquetta. I would love to hear you speak about these ladies.

[@yelena86]

I love your videos very much. You provide a nice history lesson that’s easy to take in and I appreciate it. I like your take on things and you make it super easy to listen to. I love history but have always found it hard with other teachers. You make things interesting so I’m loving it. I will be binging your videos for a while to come. Your channel is also very underrated. I hope you gain many more thousands of views and subs. Sending my love and blessings to you and your loved ones. Stay safe everyone! 👍✌️🙏❤️ Love from Australia 💕

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[@pooshkahnla6074]

I remember reading the Hilda Lewis novel about her in the early 80s...(how scary - 40 years ago!!) the novel made her look an interesting character...

[@laurashannon1177]

Thank you, Dr Kat for another fantastic video. While enjoying the delicious 'soapy-ness' of the Tudors, I did realize that Margaret was an amalgamation of Henry's sisters Mary and Margaret Tudor. However, this video does a wonderful job of clearing up a very muddy mess created by The Tudor's dramatic license. It is interesting that without these two women, Mary Stewart (Mary Queen of Scots) and Lady Jane Grey would not exist.

[@hellerjerry]

like the way you are bringing all these lives together to form the big picture.........also as side note I have been using "Native" for over a year and would also recommend them to others

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[@johnbuick5494]

Thanks Dr. Kat, I was waiting for this video!!! :) Greetings from Turkey.

[@colleens1107]

I enjoyed the Tudors partially because I had fun listing all the things they changed from actual history

[@laurenanderson395]

Even when im having the worst day , reading the past always makes it a bit brighter , dosnt matter the topic just watching the videos makes me happy .

[@megwyn1611]

I know it's probably out of your focus area, but I would love a how Queen Victoria is still related to everyone in European monarchy in the 21st century.

[@helenangus1675]

Really enjoyed this video. I have not watched the series on the Tudors if I come across it I will watch for enjoyment rather than historical accuracy. I often like to research historical facts after watching events of history being portrayed in a series or movie. Thank you once again for a very informative video.

[@Shane-Flanagan]

Yes researching historical fact after viewing or reading historical fiction is the best approach and the facts can be just as if not more interesting than the fiction. Natalie Dormer as Anne Boleyn on The Tudors was magnificent.

[@nobodysbaby5048]

The costuming was stunning.

[@theresecatalano4017]

I have always been amazed that Charles Brandon for the most part stayed in Henry’s favor. As for Mary, she knew what she wanted & she did get it. She married Brandon. So you have to give her that!

[@k.stacey7389]

I have to admit, when I was watching the Tudors and the well aged, deeply tanned “Margaret” proclaimed “I’M the queen of Portugal!” It was just too much, I damn near spit my drink out.

[@Raven_Nivhaar]

I can't be completely mad at The Tudors because it was one of the things that really ignited my interest in history, particularly Tudor history. Though I was irritated by the drastic changes that were made, it became something of a game to try and spot where they had switched things, or completely invented them altogether. I don't have much experience with historical fiction, but this definitely stretched the "fiction" aspect of that. I would never recommend it to people, especially those who have a serious interest in history just because the changes DID become annoying once I had researched things and realized just how far from reality we had traveled. But again, it's because they had changed things so dramatically that I felt compelled to look things up for myself to find out what really happened to these people. Double edged sword lol As always, a marvelous video! :D I always look forward to these. Hope you and yours are doing well!

[@CharvonR]

Seriously I cannot watch these Netflix shows that are historically INCORRECT and I am American . Drives me crazy. Why couldn’t they at least get their characters straight. I enjoy your channel immensely , thank you for your work.

[@amandakay0429]

Was actually a Showtime show. And I read somewhere a long time ago that they actually combined the sisters, Margaret and Mary, into one character.

[@hungrydachshund8236]

Love your videos, thank you very much. Love from 🇮🇪!

[@ellenmcgrath386]

hey absolutely obsessed with this channel! Could you please do a video exploring this period's attitude to witches, like James I's Demonologie and the Pendle Trials and the divorce of Frances Carr and the Earl of Essex? Utterly obsessed!

[@elizabethraitanen5057]

Thank you Dr. Kat for another informative and engaging video. Mary seems to have had few choices in her life. As the king’s sister, she was a pawn in his diplomatic endeavours. She did eventually marry the man of her choice and expressed her displeasure at the marriage of Henry to Anne Boleyn. Perhaps she was courageous. Perhaps she was foolish.

[@judyvennercanney4634]

Perhaps a bit of both. I have always liked Princess Mary Rose Tudor. She MAY BE my x13 GGM.

[@SpyderQueen1988]

Your breakdown of The Tudors justifies me never watching the show, it would have driven me up the wall! I've already paused the video to rant at my partner about the inaccuracies!

[@TheBeetress]

When I watched it I knew nothing of history, but im like that with the spanish princess now

[@dashrocks100]

I know you probably get requests for different subject matter all the time but I was wondering if you would consider discussing the life of Katherine Willoughby. I find what I learned of her extremely intriguing.

[@salomealhusami594]

I would very much like to watch a video made by you on Margaret Tudor because I watched The Spanish Princess recently and from the few mentions you make of Margaret in the video of her daughter Lady Douglas, the series clearly misrepresented her. Thank you very much!

[@beth7935]

Yes, Margaret was awesome! Seconded!

[@meghanmisaliar]

The Tudors was an excellent show. Johnathan Rhys Meyers and Natalie Dormer were excellent as Henry and Anne . Their chemisty was 🔥🔥🔥 . Of course a lot was dramatized , its television, what did people expect? A lot was also based on actual events. It was nice to see the many names from history come to life like Thomas Moore, Wolsey, Cromwell, Katherine of Aragon, Mary 1 as a little girl, Annes father and brother, Bishop Fisher, and of course all of the wives. I especially loved Peter O Toole as the Pope. I think that may have been his last role. Im tired of pretentious people whining about it not being 100% accurate. If rigid accuracy is what you want , watch a documentary!

[@marykennedy4126]

Thanks so much, Dr. Kat! Your videos rock

[@annekowallis3818]

Thank you! Another very interesting episode about the Tudors.

[@jaycorwin1625]

Interesting history. It's good that you're helping to wean people away from dramatizations. I've noticed one of your books has been moved out of eyeshot. I think I have the same one tucked away on my office shelves.

[@actual_angie]

I originally got into Tudor history by English author Phillipa Gregory's debut Tudor novel The Other Boleyn Girl and completely falling in love with Anne Boleyn's complicated relationship dynamic with her older sister Mary (who I'm also mad history overlooks). Finishing that book I devoured all four seasons of Showtimes the Tudors: The Six Wives of Henry VIII in a weekend and was ENRAGED when I realized they passed over Mary by combing the two sisters personalities. Mary Tudor has so much to offer history and I'm angry she keeps getting sidelined as nothing more than a ditsy fool who fell in love with the wrong man.

[@annalisette5897]

I have only seen clips of "The Tudors" and am glad I never saw the whole thing. IMO the most redeeming aspect of the show is a devilishly handsome young Henry VIII. That said, I would so much rather listen to a talk by you, Dr. Kat, or by Claire Ridgway. I hope it is not wrong to name another channel here but I deeply respect both of you. Real history is so much better than sensationalized fictional stories that leave the reader or watcher wondering why certain things happened. You can delve into real history and learn from the best. Thank you for everything, Dr. Kat!

[@purpleflight9083]

Would be interesting if you could cover Edward IV 's children with Elizabeth Wydeville , my favourite period 1300 to Tudor reign. 😊

[@amyrat151]

Edward IV is a Plantagenet king, not a Tudor one.

[@purpleflight9083]

@@amyrat151 . Yes I'm aware Edward is Plantaganet . I said my favourite period was 1300's to the Tudors , not saying Edward was Tudor , Mary is Elizabeth of York's daughter and in turn Elizabeth of York is Edward's daughter .

[@Shane-Flanagan]

Or even a video about Edward IV and Elizabeth W themselves would be fantastic. Yes the period from the 1300's to the Tudor era is endlessly fascinating 👍

[@chelseaoliver5404]

That poor family didn't have much luck Edward v was king for a short period and his brother were said to have been locked in the tower of London and later killed (there is huge speculation about who it was that actually killed them, their uncle now King Richard the 3rd is the most believed but there are also those who believed that it was Margaret Beaufort), there was also a yorkist uprising against Henry 7th which was believed to have been led by Richard as he survived the tower it it not known wether it was actually Richard or a pretender though Elizabeth was betrothed three times (once to a Neville, her paternal grandmother's family, once to the Dauphin of France and then to Henry 7th after the battle of bosworth, becoming the mother of the Tudor dynasty and who's descendants can still be traced to the English Throne to this day, Cecily was married off a few times so was Catherine and Arthur (he was Edward 4th illegitimate son) was a prominent figure in Henry 8ths Court

[@Shane-Flanagan]

@@chelseaoliver5404 Yes the mystery of the Princes in the Tower is well known. We'll probably never know what truly happened. Margaret Beaufort wasn't the culprit though, she is only falsely portrayed as so in Philippa Gregory's Fiction book.

[@lmzolkosky]

Thank you! I was interested in hearing an episode about Mary.

[@kimberlyperrotis8962]

Watching the Tudors series was painful, they messed with the history so much. I learned my English history from 50 years of reading history books, so I wasn’t confused, just disgusted.

[@meeeka]

Me too; I dont know which I found more distasteful: the fanciful lies told or the semi-pornographic way of the telling.

[@Shane-Flanagan]

Natalie Dormer as Anne Boleyn was magnificent though

[@leonieromanes7265]

The series would be entertaining if you didn't know much Tudor history. Natalie Dormer was fantastic.

[@laurenturner3578]

The semi pornographic telling was really bothersome. I kept skipping scenes. And then messing with the story just made it annoying.

[@dellabango4261]

Dr Kat love hearing your videos.

[@MasterJediDude]

I LOVE LOVE LOVE your videos! History can be incredibly enjoyable when it’s told by you. 😍🥰😘

[@Myke_OBrien]

Awesome as always! 👏👏👏👏

[@moushka2692]

The excerpt from the film is so execrably costumed that it throws the reliability of the whole script into doubt. Did they run out of fabric making those hideous ruffs so that there was none left over for proper (and accurate) sleeves?! The Tudors were interesting enough without confusing the story. Love your channel and delighted to learn more about Mary. Thank you for making history more accessible.

[@spiderwickian]

fantastic video as always! i love learning about the tudors

[@roxiepoe9586]

This is not actually related to this video. But, I had an idea and I don't know anyone in history/science in real life. Genesis: I do decorative stitching. Sometimes my finger is pricked and there is a little tiny bit of blood. It is very difficult to clean this off of the object, so, I stitch over the stain. This led me to wonder if there might be tiny little DNA samples all over the stitched objects - like the Bayeux Tapestry? Could these be used to know more about the people who made all the things????

[@brontesegard8305]

That is a ROCKSTAR connection you made!!! You should start contacting churches and museums that have tapestries & clothing, etc.!!!

[@TippyPuddles]

Use your saliva to dissolve the blood. Most today would find this repulsive, but that's how it goes.

[@fleetskipper1810]

I am sure you are 100% right. It would make sense that’s in famous tapestries that I survived, there is a bit of dried blood.

[@BethDiane]

Clearly, The Tudors isn't all that concerned with historical accuracy. Otherwise they would have cast a tall blond man as Henry VIII. Handsome as Jonathan Rhys Myers is, he's short and dark.

[@daniellekurtz9271]

Dark, yes. However, Jonathan Rhys Meyers is only about 4 inches shorter than King Henry VIII

[@BethDiane]

@@daniellekurtz9271 Yes, but people were at least a little shorter then. To have the same impact Henry VIII would have had to his contemporaries, an actor playing him should be at least 6'4".

[@BethDiane]

@@daniellekurtz9271 Except that since everyone else is taller than they would have been then, to really recreate the physical impact that Henry VIII would have had, you'd need an actor who's at least 6'4".

[@janjohnsonamarillas3386]

Interesting about the info on deodorants , planning on using your link to order -Last but not least the doc on Mary Tudor Thank you very much !

[@native_cos]

Excited for you to try our deodorant! Tell us what you think!

[@janjohnsonamarillas3386]

@@native_cos I will for sure, thank you so much !

[@starrycrown]

I just found this channel! Wonderfully done! Such a treat. Thanks, Dr. K!

[@lillianmcgrew217]

I am glad you are taking about Henry,'s sister ❤

[@ElliotOracle]

I love and appreciate your videos so much. Thank you!

[@rl3293]

Fascinating as always ❤

[@suzzannalemky2758]

I love your channel!! Thank you for what you do!

[@cq9882]

Thank You Dr Kat, as always content is superb and more trustworthy then others.

[@denisehill7769]

Did they hold the Chateau Vert pageant on laundry day, or something? As it appears the women are dancng in their underwear (some of it) :(

[@scribetoscholar656]

‪Fascinating for what you’ve told us about women’s social history across class lines. It appears she had to think about her relationships to men, and marriage, as a means of survival as much as her sisters further down the social hierarchy.‬

[@richardhaynes8692]

Very enjoyable video Dr Kat, lots of information, looking forward to the next video.

[@winfredstacy5843]

Although I enjoyed The Tudors as "soap opera" enjoyable television. I frequently yelled at the screen for historical facts being altered. Just as an aside, I was born in Bromley, KY and raised in Ludlow, KY. I like to think the connection significant.

[@cynthiaejiogu8442]

I did too! Especially when was watching Mary. I could stomach the name thing but changing the country where she was queen was too much!

[@aMEWzed]

Lovely story telling as always. Thanks for the flash news about Horace Walpole. New tales to add to the family lore.

[@Elainashtyn]

I’ve been waiting well over a decade for this video!

[@rubyc5664]

I absolutely loved this video 💕 Thanks Dr. Kat

[@maryloumawson6006]

I think it's fascinating that Henry's will specifies the lineage of Mary rather than Margaret. You'd think after his long quest for a male heir, and his misgivings about a woman's ability to hold the throne, he would have specified closest MALE of either lineage. It really does cast doubt on that document in my mind.

[@loriboufford6342]

I really enjoy your narrations of history. I find them to be very clear. : - ) Michigan, USA

[@EivorsRaven]

:) Dr. Kat you are always a delight!!!

[@meme-sw1pc]

I really enjoyed that, hope you and your family are well, love from Tasmania.

[@jnicholas-windsoramyisrael46]

Thanks for mentioning “ Native “ as a Vegan it’s great to find more new products. Great video as always 😊🙏🏻

[@native_cos]

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[@tanyas6643]

I was definitely confused by the switching of Mary’s name and husband. Why do that? I saw no logical or even “fictionally interesting “ reason for it. Neither added anything special. I was also annoyed by the “liberties” they took with Brandon.

[@jamiemohan2049]

They should have put the two sisters in. Their stories should have added some interesting scenes. They missed an opportunity. Cause the show got a bit boring after Anne's death.

[@judithp.1313]

I’ve read that the Tudor series referred to Mary Tudor as Margret as to not confuse the viewing audience with another ‘Mary’ as was the name of Henry”s daughter. Please keep in mind that this was a series lent on entertainment not factual history. And for that it did dramatically and assumingely quite well. For example, when has there ever been a production of the Tudor’s where the character portraying Henry did not have red hair?!! (Jonathon Reyes Meijers ..be still my beating heart). I’m a Tudor fanatic (my family members leave the room at my near mention of the name “Tudor” ) and for years have indulged in everything Tudor. I’ve enjoyed watching every minute of this faux pas series. Thank you Dr. Kat for this wonderful, historically accurate and entertaining as well video!

[@Heothbremel]

❤ idk, historical dramas are always historical fantasies that do get people at least interested in the history. So as I write I just can't work up the oomph to get mad about it anymore. Thanks for the look at her life! She's very interesting and I feel like no one really talks about her because of how famous her niece was...

[@JustAshley9685]

I may be different from others, but I find the truth of everything in actual history more intriguing than the show of "The Tudors"

[@ladyliberty417]

It is confusing all the Mary’s!! I appreciate your trying to straighten it out, just when I figure it out I know it will leave me soon, ha! Mary Tudor did the best she could in the world she was born into, you explain it well Dr. Kat, I can’t help but feel bad for her having Henry the eighth as her brother!! ❣️

[@honeyccampbell8687]

I love ❤️ this brilliant, historical and informative channel!

[@danaglabeman6919]

What is it about Dr. Kat's voice that even when she's doing her sponser ad's script, it's 1000% less annoying than any other creator?

[@janetkizer5956]

I hate The Tudors for how it messed with history. The story of those times had enough drama without inventing it. But also, I hate how they created sympathy for Henry rather than telling the truth. They messed with the difference in ages between him and his wives, by making Katherine of Aragon older than she was and Henry younger, which made her look a bit like a cougar, when it was Henry who was marrying someone much younger when he married Anne Boleyn and especially Katherine Howard. That was so unfair.

[@theresajeffries202]

While the historical inaccuracies in The Tudors can be migraine inducing, I absolutely loved the series! One of my favorite episodes was the season finale of season two (I think?) when Anne Boleyn was executed. I sobbed like a baby through the entire episode (it didn't help that I was very pregnant at the time)! As to Margaret/Mary Tudor's death scene in the show, I think the gruesome nature of it, coupled with the fact that she was left all alone, and her philandering husband was (I believe) with another woman while she was literally dying, is a sort of comeuppance moment for her. Because she had murdered her first husband, the King of Portugal, her life afterwards was pretty miserable, followed by an agonizing, tragic, and ultimately humiliating death. But please don't quote me on this, this is just my takeaway from it.

[@Dreymasmith]

Really enjoyed your run down of Mary, but wow The Tudors is trash tv. I haven't watched it as all the stills made me feel like screaming (the hair, the make up, the poorly researched costumes, the casting), and now here's confirmation that a lot of the rest of it would make me scream too. Much prefer this version.

[@jrojala]

A historically accurate, dramatized Tudors show would be great- and Dr. Kat and people like her should be consultants for the writers- like up the drama and interest when possible, but keep it real.

[@maureenhannivan8043]

True History is more interesting than any tv program, other than the knowledge networks. Thanks again Dr kat

[@TheTam0613]

Thank you, Dr. Kat!

[@claireseyeviewonredbubble]

At 12:43 the Habsburg jaw is quite evident on Charles in this painting

[@clonejones7955]

Loved the Tudors series and watched it without clutching my pearls in horror despite its historical inaccuracy.Sometimes I just want some bawdy entertainment.

[@janmcclure551]

I just found your channel. Thank you for highlighting the sisters of Henry VIII. Mary and Margaret had to be strong women to survive as they did.