MAS 49: A Universal Service Rifle

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@LibertyTreeStudios
@LibertyTreeStudios 5 жыл бұрын
I dunno why but this rifle just has some really nice aesthetics to it
@EoineyMTX125
@EoineyMTX125 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed all the MAS rifles do
@jccs98
@jccs98 3 жыл бұрын
only nazis like the aesthetics of this gun
@jccs98
@jccs98 3 жыл бұрын
real americans like the mini 14 folding stock
@AtlasJotun
@AtlasJotun 3 жыл бұрын
They blocky and kind of clunky-looking... but in a really svelte way? I don't know, but that's the coolest grenade sight ever.
@Lavi-Aemilia-Astori
@Lavi-Aemilia-Astori 3 жыл бұрын
@@jccs98 funny lad
@natebarfoot1277
@natebarfoot1277 5 жыл бұрын
I saw Ian at Ron Peterson in Albuquerque NM he was doing research for this book he took a couple of pictures with me I will be buying this book. P.S Thank you Ian for taking time to take a pic with me your awesome!!
@hopefullytemporary1
@hopefullytemporary1 5 жыл бұрын
FYI: The sheet metal strap/ring holding the scope on is known as a "T bolt clamp", frequently used in automotive and hydraulic applications. It has the advantage over normal worm screw clamps in that it applies even pressure along the entire surface area as opposed to pinching specific points like a worm screw clamp.
@philippefrater2000
@philippefrater2000 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Ian! I think this is the gun my father did use in the Algerian conflict. He told me so many stories about what they were doing with it... (Camels exploding far in the night when shot because they were convoys loaded with explosives, guns and ammunitions), for exemple. He spent nearly 3 years in this war serving in a Special Division. (Penfentenyo). Each time he started to talk about that period his eyes started to fill with tears and he had hard time finishing the story...
@alexmuller1680
@alexmuller1680 5 жыл бұрын
But as French we can be really thankfull to your grandpa to have fought for France in Algeria. History may have been rewritten to give bad image of them but we shall not forget them. Respect to your grand dad!
@markwalker4485
@markwalker4485 Жыл бұрын
My old friend loved his m1 carbine and refused to use the MAS at all and he was DBLE so I trust him
@jamesr792
@jamesr792 Жыл бұрын
@@alexmuller1680L’algerie est Francaise et le restera!
@Echowhiskeyone
@Echowhiskeyone 5 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing the MAS 49 in an arms of the world book many years ago. I found it to be a beautiful rifle back then, and the more I see of it, the more I love it.
@VonRammsteyn
@VonRammsteyn 5 жыл бұрын
4 me, the line of MAS 49 rifles and its derivates are the most beautiful of the french rifles.
@jerrell1169
@jerrell1169 5 жыл бұрын
Too bad it and its brethren have only gotten more and more expensive, I’ve only I could go in time.
@Krongfah
@Krongfah 5 жыл бұрын
I just played Rising Storm 2: Vietnam this morning, saw this gun in the game and thought, “huh, never heard of Mas-49 before, I wonder if Gun Jesus ever covered this gun.” Then lo and behold, he uploads this vid.
@paulmundt144
@paulmundt144 5 жыл бұрын
All hail Gun Jesus
@justiceforjoggers2897
@justiceforjoggers2897 5 жыл бұрын
Praise be Gun Jesus
@aeis3007
@aeis3007 5 жыл бұрын
He heard your prayers and answered them. All hail Gun Jesus and his miracles!
@sqike001ton
@sqike001ton 5 жыл бұрын
I just had the video above this in my feed is a rs2 playing with the scoped 49 then this one
@sisamusudroka3000
@sisamusudroka3000 5 жыл бұрын
Proof of concept, gun jesus hears our prayers
@denisvermeirre1024
@denisvermeirre1024 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Ian. You would have loved it! One of my parents' friends had been a French Legionnaire. He decided to collect one copy of each rifle he'd had in the Legion. Interesting collection, not just because of the variety, but also because he kept them scattered throughout the house. In each closet you'd find a rifle of some type. And as a Legionnaire, there was no way he's accept to leave them unloaded.
@willie_brydon
@willie_brydon 5 жыл бұрын
11:51 the Syrian owner of the rifle seems to have inscribed his own name on there as well, I think it says "Jawad al-Hurri"
@onyx9943
@onyx9943 5 жыл бұрын
@lzydwg More like Jawad From Huran, a Syrian city... Whether or not he is virgin is beyond me XD
@alexmuller1680
@alexmuller1680 5 жыл бұрын
Wow, that's really the power of internet, getting informations from all community and give this particular gun it's own personal story, who knows maybe Mister Jawad wrote his regiment number somewhere else on the stock! You're great to have given that info, thanks a lot!
@VALDIGNE
@VALDIGNE 5 жыл бұрын
I have noticed that this weapon is often used by Islamists.
@TheSirPrise
@TheSirPrise 3 жыл бұрын
Jawad is correct but I think the second word is المحوزي, (Al-Mahwzi) which is just a surname in Arabic. So basically this is Jawad Al-Mahwzi writing his own name on the rifle, identifying it as his property.
@krip4804
@krip4804 5 жыл бұрын
This gun just got added to Risng storm 2: vietnam
@darranhirose8153
@darranhirose8153 5 жыл бұрын
49/56 technically. So the lightened version. Is anyone having the issue with the gun sounding absurdly quiet in game?
@jamesgarratt9334
@jamesgarratt9334 5 жыл бұрын
The creator of Rising Storm must love Gun Jesus.
@GIR9595
@GIR9595 5 жыл бұрын
@@darranhirose8153 Nah it's just the MAS-49. The front end is very different on the 49/56
@iamcrimsonspecter2
@iamcrimsonspecter2 5 жыл бұрын
@@darranhirose8153 All the guns sound pretty quiet. I do dig incoming snap reports, but that's it, snaps.. no whirrs or anything, fine game.
@KurwaRomek
@KurwaRomek 5 жыл бұрын
Shame the scope isn't available
@LawrenceFlash18
@LawrenceFlash18 5 жыл бұрын
Proud to say I inherited one of these after my grandpa passed. No idea where he got it from. I have ammo for it but I have yet to shoot it. Just for you, Ian, I think I’ll take it out soon.
@curious-relics
@curious-relics 5 жыл бұрын
When you do shoot it, just be careful - these rifles absolutely will slamfire using commercial ammo if they don't have the modification to the firing pin Ian talked about. If you're shooting it without that mod, I'd only load a max of 2 rounds into the mag at a time.
@JenniferinIllinois
@JenniferinIllinois 5 жыл бұрын
Jeez all these French rifles. Did Ian write a book about French military rifles? 🤣🤣🤣
@genericpersonx333
@genericpersonx333 5 жыл бұрын
Cheesy joke is still good joke. :)
@sqike001ton
@sqike001ton 5 жыл бұрын
Nope he wrte and published one xd
@d4ngru5h83
@d4ngru5h83 5 жыл бұрын
@@genericpersonx333 ...cheese....french cheese....
@matthayward7889
@matthayward7889 5 жыл бұрын
I’m sure it would be very popular!
@ihcfn
@ihcfn 5 жыл бұрын
Why hasn't he mentioned it before? 😉
@troy9477
@troy9477 5 жыл бұрын
This concept makes a lot of sense. Issuing a scope to say every 8th guy, along with a little extra training and practice firing, would give u 1 DM per squad. Another guy can be a designated grenadier, and everyone can carry 1 or 2 rifle grenades to help out. I always thought these and the 49/56 were pretty good rifles, and interesting. I'm sure the Foreign Legion liked them, and did some good work with them. Great video as always. Thank you
@sarjim4381
@sarjim4381 5 жыл бұрын
I bought one of the Century Arms 7.62 Nato conversions in 1991 for $220. The bore was well done, and armory had redone the parkerizing and refinished the wood. What Century didn't do was enough testing after the conversion. Apparently they shortened the barrel so they could cut new metal for the 7.62 chamber, shortened the gas tube to match the 9/16" barrel offset, and left the original French springs and recoil system in place. A friend of mine ordered one at the same time. I think these were among the first Century conversions. Mine would never fire a full mag without a jam of some kind, some of which got stuck so badly it required a rod and rubber mallet to free it from the chamber. My buddy's rifle would happily go through multiple mags without a problem. Type of ammo didn't matter in mine, but his could fire cruddy surplus ammo all day. Mags for the 7.62 guns are also crazy expensive now, $50 and higher last I looked. Unless you can confirm from the owner his gun is a shooter, avoid the Century conversions. I've heard of slamfire issues with the 7.5 guns, but they can be fixed with a change ot the firing pin, again from what I've heard. I will say mine was a good shooter when it was feeding rounds properly, about equal to a Garand in accuracy. Unless you're like Ian and just an aficionado of French guns, there are many better shooters than the 56/49.
@samhansen9771
@samhansen9771 5 жыл бұрын
The century arms conversions were notoriously bad. And the slam fire problem was because French cartridges have extremely tough primers, necessitating a very heavy firing pin. This can be fixed by filing down the pin a tiny bit or getting an aftermarket titanium firing pin. Mas-49's have a reputation for reliability in harsh environments.
@kyleschafer6275
@kyleschafer6275 5 жыл бұрын
I swear, these rifles went from easy to find to hard to find overnight ( and im not talking about the mas49/56).
@megalith7796
@megalith7796 5 жыл бұрын
Rising Storm's new update did it.
@johnhans2929
@johnhans2929 5 жыл бұрын
And they are about to get even harder to find.
@LN997-i8x
@LN997-i8x 5 жыл бұрын
They've nearly tripled in price here in Canada over the last 2 years. They were sitting at $700-900 for a long time, but all of a sudden jumped to $2000+.
@kyleschafer6275
@kyleschafer6275 5 жыл бұрын
@@LN997-i8x No BS, i was meeting with an elderly gentleman looking to sell his (well he claimed it was a mas 49, could've been a 49/56,saw the advertisementat a range club), he was gonna sell it for $450, when i tried to meet up with him he was nowhere to be found, when i called him again he doubled his price ( i cant recall the exact price but it was $750-$850). I was a little upset.
@jon79jon
@jon79jon 5 жыл бұрын
Those clever frogs! That Grenade launching setup is ingenious.
@AtholAnderson
@AtholAnderson 5 жыл бұрын
Ian, if you have enough money from your Kickstarter left over once all the book expenses are accounted for, you should do French Rifle shoot with as many of the guns your books covers as is possible
@sixstringedthing
@sixstringedthing 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds like an excellent reason for another collab with C&R!
@earthenjadis8199
@earthenjadis8199 5 жыл бұрын
With the iron sights, my father used a MAS 49 to kill an FLN fighter in the desert around Timimoun . When they got to the body, they estimated the shot was just short of 500m. "Être et durer" was etched onto his memorial plaque when he passed away in 2016, along with the Brevet parachutiste militaire. And the Algerians have their nation.
@Froggmeningreen
@Froggmeningreen 5 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the movie "The centurions" somehow
@Tobias-ld2pv
@Tobias-ld2pv 5 жыл бұрын
It is sad that your dad had to fight for french colonialism. I hope he could repend for the crimes he committed for the french state.
@sebl9198
@sebl9198 5 жыл бұрын
@@Zezezeze69 Albert camus
@MrPh30
@MrPh30 5 жыл бұрын
Heard the rifle was good,know about some 1eme Rep there that liked it very much and had a good career in Algeria.
@justiceforjoggers2897
@justiceforjoggers2897 5 жыл бұрын
@@Tobias-ld2pv Oof
@jonbush7467
@jonbush7467 5 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on this project! I know how much you enjoy the history of France's story of firearms development. Been watching you for years and dare say... I'm proud of you! (Whatever that might mean to you idk..) I'm still happy about your accomplishments!
@johnparrish9215
@johnparrish9215 5 жыл бұрын
You know, if your French Rifle squad had to launch an ambush, everyone opening with Rifle Grenades looks to be a very effective start to a successful ambush.
@domnicke
@domnicke 5 жыл бұрын
You actually wouldn't want to start an ambush that way. When you fire a rifle grenade there is Delay between the time of firing and the time of the explosion which can give your position away to the enemy and allowed the enemy to take cover. This is the reason why the US military is trained not to start an ambush with a M320 or m203 launcher.
@johnparrish9215
@johnparrish9215 5 жыл бұрын
@@domnicke Good Point
@freakingabagool3510
@freakingabagool3510 8 ай бұрын
@@domnickeright, you start an ambush usually with some sort of remote-detonated explosive, such as a Claymore/MON mine, or tripwire device. Too close to hear the report before you’re either mangled and screaming, or it’s “no longer your problem”
@mrjohnbrush
@mrjohnbrush 5 жыл бұрын
Monsieur le Président, consider making this man a member of the Légion d'Honneur!
@benjaminjohnson628
@benjaminjohnson628 5 жыл бұрын
Great video, it would be awesome to see a series of these books detailing the history of service rifles for numerous nations eg a book for the UK, US, Germany ect
@bend1483
@bend1483 5 жыл бұрын
Benjamin Johnson yes. Yes yes. Absolutely. Yes.
@NRJenzenJones
@NRJenzenJones 5 жыл бұрын
Keep your eyes peeled...
@alexmuller1680
@alexmuller1680 5 жыл бұрын
Imagine if he was writing a book about FN Herstal🤤
@florentleider222
@florentleider222 5 жыл бұрын
one can see it in action in the best french war movie "la 317ème setion", depicting the last days of a french squad during the indochina war. Remarkable for its authenticity.
@loupiscanis9449
@loupiscanis9449 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you , Ian .
@Ostenjager
@Ostenjager 5 жыл бұрын
These videos show just how challenging it is to collect French military arms in the U.S. Between our importation restrictions and the French state arsenals unwillingness to export, it's a wonder anything made it here.
@oldgoat1890
@oldgoat1890 4 жыл бұрын
According to some French sources, France signed some UN agreement to destroy obsolete military weapons. I was curious where 80,000 model 49's got to. I talked to people in Canada, Australia, and Europe. Finally, some of the French claim the rifles were melted down because of the UN agreement. That would explain why there are so few French issue 49's in the U.S.
@ultramagnus4374
@ultramagnus4374 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve only seen on MAS36 in person. I bought it
@Deftonesdsm
@Deftonesdsm 5 жыл бұрын
I hope Ian writes more books. I hope he overshoots his goals by a lot everytime. Gun Jesus come to save us again from boredom
@michaellorusso4912
@michaellorusso4912 Ай бұрын
YOU NEED TO GET A LIFE SIR...
@gunner678
@gunner678 5 жыл бұрын
Great shot of this in the French war movie 'Section 317', superb film! Excellent video as ever, one of my favourite rifles.
@luisantolafrancis519
@luisantolafrancis519 5 жыл бұрын
Siria also has a bunch of MAS36 that apeared in bulk in containers with other guns like the STG44 that are being used in the Sirian civil war .
@csabaweisz8791
@csabaweisz8791 5 жыл бұрын
The syrian war has every kind of interesting old weapons, from colonial lee-enfields to a german WW2 PaK 105 cannon stolen out from a museum
@rogainegaming6924
@rogainegaming6924 4 жыл бұрын
My question is just how they all feed their own rifles. It can't be easy finding 8mm kurz or .303 in the middle of Syria
@luisantolafrancis519
@luisantolafrancis519 4 жыл бұрын
@@rogainegaming6924 the bulk of occidental Surplus ammo could be dry out but orient and ex soviet pole countries are plentifull of this stuff and even some countries like Serbia still produce 8mmkurz PPU.
@reddevilparatrooper
@reddevilparatrooper 5 жыл бұрын
Very clever design indeed. Like you said the French were ahead of the curve in concept of a universal service rifle which the Americans followed in suit with the M14.
@joshsquatch7474
@joshsquatch7474 5 жыл бұрын
This is one of my favorite old military rifles, no particular reason why just a neat gun.
@breekiwalker
@breekiwalker 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Ian, ever thought of making a video on a Vigneron M2 SMG ? There's almost nothing about on KZbin and it'de be pretty cool having you talking about it
@BaronSamedi1959
@BaronSamedi1959 5 жыл бұрын
Ah, the Vigneron! The Belgian Army still used these in the 1980s, all the way up until they introduced the FNC. By that time the Vignerons were so much used up that they actually became quite dangerous to shoot, with safety catches "half engaging" at odd moments causing misfires or jams all the time. But it was still one of the more stylish SMGs I ever fired.
@breekiwalker
@breekiwalker 5 жыл бұрын
Now that I think about it, I've never seen one in museums or other exhibition here in Belgium. The only way I know it exist is from my father and friend of his talking about shooting that gun during their military service, along with the FAL and the FNC
@thomasvanstraelen5848
@thomasvanstraelen5848 5 жыл бұрын
The Vigneron already had a bad reputation in 1969 when my father was doing his service. In the 80's, the joke was that, if you ever ran out of grenades you could throw a Vigneron at the enemy since even a light shock would cause it to discharge its entire magazine on auto.
@DiggingForFacts
@DiggingForFacts 5 жыл бұрын
@@breekiwalker I think the fortress museum in Dinant has one on display. Rare gun to see for sure.
@moekitsune
@moekitsune Жыл бұрын
Ian made a video recently in case you haven't seen it
@johnkelinske1449
@johnkelinske1449 5 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing one in a local gun shop in the late 1960s, it was brought back from Vietnam by a returning vet. It was only about good to very good condition wise, the price tag was $125- quite a sum in those days.
@theprojectproject01
@theprojectproject01 5 жыл бұрын
When I think about what these were selling for in 1995, I could just weep.
@AutismIsUnstoppable
@AutismIsUnstoppable 5 жыл бұрын
Just rember that and think of what guns are cheep now but will likely rise in price in a decade or so.
@danlovestotravel8159
@danlovestotravel8159 3 жыл бұрын
Always do a good job covering a weapon. Easy to listen to and keeps it simple. Keep up the good work.
@callhoonrepublican
@callhoonrepublican 5 жыл бұрын
I've seen them at gun shows years ago, and didn't know anything about them or how they worked, I'm actually very impressed and wish i had bought one when i'm sure the prices were much lower.
@kampase
@kampase 5 жыл бұрын
The condition of the stock and grips is really nice
@M855Patriot
@M855Patriot 5 жыл бұрын
I think it's pretty cool that after I watched this video this morning, I went to my LGS and they happened to have one of these for under $700. Pretty cool to see how the grenade sights worked in person and interesting how they went with a plastic charging handle knob.
@treyriver5676
@treyriver5676 5 жыл бұрын
I think the French on again off again relationship with NATO and lack of export versions also makes the French cold war rifles less known.
@96royalstar21
@96royalstar21 4 жыл бұрын
I bought a MAS 49 Syrian (Bayo) out of shotgun news in 1988 for $250 with 900rds of Syrian 7.5 french ammo. The ammo`s primers all started to malfunction after a few years and threw away 400rds (that was left out of the 900). The wood stock (once beautiful) had a oil level line where it had set in 1ft oil half way up in shipping crate I am guessing. The original bluing was light and bore was dark. I love shooting it, never jams. Because I was young then and more into looks and not originality, I didn't like the dented blacken wood, so I soaked out the oil & I refinished it, It (wood), it now looks beautiful. I also didn't like nylon charging knob and machined a new one (still have the original).
@oldgoat1890
@oldgoat1890 4 жыл бұрын
The nylon knob was actually an improvement over the bakelite knob on the 44's. The original bakelite knobs became brittle with age. Even a good bakelite knob will often crack just from firing the rifle. I have never seen a 49' with a bakelite knob, but I have never seen one under #12,000 either. I don't know when the change came.
@oldgoat1890
@oldgoat1890 4 жыл бұрын
This was the rifle with the marking transitions all done in the same series. I have an early one with a script F prefix. Sometime during the "F" series, it changed to a block prefix with a horizontal number, like the one in the video. The last change was to a vertical serial number and a block letter. All in the 1949 series rifle.
@marcoburino1000
@marcoburino1000 5 жыл бұрын
It looks beautiful...
@TheWhoamaters
@TheWhoamaters 3 жыл бұрын
These and the 36 are some of my favorite rifles
@sabre0smile
@sabre0smile 5 жыл бұрын
I kinda prefer the Syrian version. Even if it's not entirely useful, gotta love a good bayonet. Another great video!
@jerrell1169
@jerrell1169 5 жыл бұрын
Sebrenity I agree, bayonets can make a gun look very nice, the only guns I don’t prefer with bayonets are modern polymer rifles and AKs/Type 56s
@otherhethermocking8243
@otherhethermocking8243 5 жыл бұрын
The MAS 36, 44, 49, 49/56, and FR derivatives of the 36 are all pretty cool. Nice! Wouldn't mind one of those Syrian ones but they're probably expensive
@alexmuller1680
@alexmuller1680 5 жыл бұрын
Right, that would probably be expensive...but you will buy a piece of history! That rifle was made in France, sent to our protectorate in Syria, after independence some stayed stocked, some was bought from the French by the new government, then was issued to soldiers, maybe took part in the six days war, was stocked again, and then some 50 years later it arrived in your country, I assume you are from USA. Maybe you'll even get the name of the soldier wrote on the stock like on this particular one. It's not a rifle you'll spend money for, it's a piece of history and that's priceless, exciting, living History in your hands!
@avtomatkalash7431
@avtomatkalash7431 5 жыл бұрын
The Syrian ones aren’t bad, less than a standard French mas 49
@otherhethermocking8243
@otherhethermocking8243 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the input, fellow disciples of Gun Jesus.
@andrewmccain8297
@andrewmccain8297 5 жыл бұрын
Very interested to see a 2 gun with this rifle and scope
@winkleried
@winkleried 5 жыл бұрын
This Rifle is on my bucket list....
@JableckiFM
@JableckiFM 5 жыл бұрын
Damn, these MAS rifles are so beautiful.
@STM1066
@STM1066 5 жыл бұрын
If they had converted it to 7.62 NATO and added a 20 round magazine it could’ve been one of the best battle rifles of the Cold War. It’s very good (I own one in 7.5) but in a military setting I wager it’d be really handicapped by 10 round mags, especially considering it was used until 1979
@avtomatkalash7431
@avtomatkalash7431 5 жыл бұрын
I agree, lost potential for sure
@reaperthemad8731
@reaperthemad8731 3 жыл бұрын
Haven't seen anyone do a comparison, so here's my idea for a fun video: MAS 49 vs FN-49. Good excuse to shoot (if anyone needs one), and unless I missed something, all your videos on the MAS or FN are on scoped editions. I have an Egyptian contract FN-49 that I could possibly lend.
@ruthfelldman8285
@ruthfelldman8285 5 жыл бұрын
Is that a grenade launcher or a can opener?
@masahirosakurai3733
@masahirosakurai3733 5 жыл бұрын
Ruth Felldman both
@alexmuller1680
@alexmuller1680 5 жыл бұрын
Can be used for both! But I heard Israel have a can opener on their rifle! But I dont know if its true.
@saintbulmers665
@saintbulmers665 5 жыл бұрын
@@alexmuller1680 bottle opener, but yes, the Galil has a bottle opener in the handguard
@vonmazur1
@vonmazur1 5 жыл бұрын
No it is a crescent wrench, and they licensed the design...
@csabaweisz8791
@csabaweisz8791 5 жыл бұрын
@@alexmuller1680 they have the bottle opener on the galil, because the soldiers liked to use the feeding lips on the magazines, and thus deforming them
@thelegendaryklobb2879
@thelegendaryklobb2879 5 жыл бұрын
Finally, graet video. Looking for a newer shooting video with this one!
@jimh6763
@jimh6763 4 жыл бұрын
Nice looking stock!! Very clean cut
@AmusedWalrus
@AmusedWalrus 5 жыл бұрын
That looks like a very nice firearm, it looks brand new!
@csours
@csours 5 жыл бұрын
2:42 Matt Parker-ised you say? This is a real Parker Square of a gun!
@legentilhommedefortune
@legentilhommedefortune Жыл бұрын
I ve shot this weapon while in the french army many , many times , it was heavy , but very accurate at 400M (without scope), recoil was strong , even worse with the grenade launcher cartridges ( not possible to hold it) & it was jamming very often..
@mohammedcohen
@mohammedcohen 5 жыл бұрын
I bought one of those scopes from S O G - it cost almost as much as the rifle (MAS49/56) that I bought from them - and it was evidently never issued/used...the directions inside the scope container had not been completely cut through by the cutting machine at the print shop...
@Arkeo36
@Arkeo36 5 жыл бұрын
I would love to have one of these. A local gun store to me had one for sale a while ago but I have no idea if it's still there...but after this video I doubt too many of them are going to be left on the racks in a short while.
@KingKiavash
@KingKiavash 3 жыл бұрын
10 years after the development of FG42, France and other nations were basically building broom sticks. Don't get me wrong, I love this rifle but it really puts things in perspective as to how far ahead Germany was compared to other countries when it came to small arms development.
@AtlasJotun
@AtlasJotun 3 жыл бұрын
That's the greatest grenade sight ever.
@DynamicDurge
@DynamicDurge 5 жыл бұрын
Book looks epic, Ian!!
@timsmith1589
@timsmith1589 2 жыл бұрын
I need one of each for my collection now too
@minuteman4199
@minuteman4199 5 жыл бұрын
The stacking hook looks like a real anachronism on a post WW2 rifle. I'd be curious to know if they were ever actually used.
@alexmuller1680
@alexmuller1680 5 жыл бұрын
Post war yes but it's really not that long after. They used older model of sight cause they got the tools around, so I do suppose they did same for other parts that wasnt needing a modern upgrade.
@vchalmel
@vchalmel 5 жыл бұрын
It's always a great day when gun jesus celebrate mas'
@cerealata9035
@cerealata9035 5 жыл бұрын
Such a beautiful and sexy rifle, though I'm torn between the original French version or the Syrian version.
@LewisRenovation
@LewisRenovation 5 жыл бұрын
From all the videos i have watched about French weapons, tactics, and doctrine, it seems there is a theme that they had very low expectations of their average soldiers.
@T3hderk87
@T3hderk87 5 жыл бұрын
So this is a designated grenade marksman's rifle? Really puts the boom in "BOOM HEADSHOT!"...
@DC2022
@DC2022 5 жыл бұрын
Almost. The gun fitted with scope was forbidden for grenade firing and a gun who fired grenades was never fitted with scope after that. DMR MAS needed a perfect barrel and scope would not withstand an frigging grenade shot.
@bruceinoz8002
@bruceinoz8002 5 жыл бұрын
Regarding calibre: Allegedly, some 49's and 49/56's were made in 7.62 NATO either for proposed or actual sale to "fence-sitters" in "colonial" regions or for when France was still a part of NATO. I had one of those ex-Syrian ones back in the early 1980's, when Australia still had some remains of a sense of humour. No surplus or commercial 7.5 ammo anywhere. However, dies could be found and brass could be easily formed from 6.5 x 55 Swedish cases, which have a very similar head diameter. (Berdan-primed, of course). I never noticed any "slam-fires" and this is possibly due to the RWS 5608 Berdan primers being "mil-spec" and having more robust cups than their "sporting" (plated) ones like the 5627 or general commercial primers.
@MadManchou
@MadManchou 5 жыл бұрын
France has not been outside of NATO ever since NATO was founded. It only got out of the joint command (which it re-joined under Sarkozy, so 40 years later), which in no way had an impact on either french arms development (and collaboration therein with other members), or more importantly the commitment of France to stand alongside its NATO allies.
@bruceinoz8002
@bruceinoz8002 5 жыл бұрын
OK, that makes sense. They certainly maintained their "individuality" in many things; the 7.5mm cartridge being just one. Being "outside" the Nuclear Planning Group" is another. Vive la différence!
@giovannibattistaponzetto5860
@giovannibattistaponzetto5860 5 жыл бұрын
I want the book edition with the "Gun Jesus" H&K poster included!
@meinauto9048
@meinauto9048 5 жыл бұрын
The French sure make some handsome rifles.
@tbthegr81
@tbthegr81 5 жыл бұрын
Thats a rly nice looking rifle
@iamcrimsonspecter2
@iamcrimsonspecter2 5 жыл бұрын
Fine weapon for defending rice in the game Rising Storm 2 Vietnam - no shortcomings! Launches boom boom rice balls!
@thevoxofreason8468
@thevoxofreason8468 4 жыл бұрын
I just revisited this vid. I have to say that one thing seems odd to me about this set up: the scope, particularly the eye relief. The relief seems incredibly short, much shorter than most other scopes I've seen on combat rifles.
@JACKBLACKTOSE
@JACKBLACKTOSE 5 жыл бұрын
Live Más
@yaboosnubs
@yaboosnubs 5 жыл бұрын
Good rifle but kind but went obsolete rather fast (mag, ammo), how long was it in active service in French Military?
@mfree80286
@mfree80286 5 жыл бұрын
IIRC the replacement was the 49/56, so I'd guess 7 years?
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons 5 жыл бұрын
Not long before being shortened and modified a bit into the 49-56. That version remained standard until 1979.
@highlandoutsider
@highlandoutsider 5 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to find out just how many of the Syrian guns were sold off, remembering some of what was talked about in your videos in regards to craft built guns in current warzones, I wonder how many of these are still " in service"
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons 5 жыл бұрын
I believe about 3000 of them came into the US.
@b.griffin317
@b.griffin317 5 жыл бұрын
was it possible to still use the grenade launcher with the bayonet on the syrian version?
@00vondough00
@00vondough00 5 жыл бұрын
That rifle looks a lot like those found in the Valkyria games.
@grayman7208
@grayman7208 5 жыл бұрын
Ian, how does your book compare to "Proud Promise: French Autoloading Rifles, 1898-1979" by Jean Huon ?
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons 5 жыл бұрын
My book has much better photography (in color, no less!) and it covers all the bolt action rifles as well as the semi autos. I have a chapter on the FAMAS, which Huon does not (he has a separate book on the FAMAS, in French only). I have more detailed information on things like the production timeline for the rifles both books cover, and my RSC chapter is substantially more detailed than his. On the other side, he covers a lot of prototype and experimental variations, and I do not (I only include models adopted by the military). The background on the various development programs and experimental guns makes his book invaluable to the researcher, but I believe mine has much more practical value for the collector.
@grayman7208
@grayman7208 5 жыл бұрын
@@ForgottenWeapons thanks ... i have his book ... will try to add your's to my collection if i can figure out how kickstarter works. when are you going to cover a MAS 49-56 ? which, by the way, i think is the best battle rifle ever produced. for that matter ... when are you going to shoot one and eval it ?
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons 5 жыл бұрын
I have three videos on the 49/56 coming by the end of the month. One of the standard gun, one on the MSE version, and one on the experiments with converting it to 7.62 NATO.
@grayman7208
@grayman7208 5 жыл бұрын
@@ForgottenWeapons groovy ... i have several original calibers. and several .308s. the .308s required additional work to make them function properly. while in the military i shot g-3's, and have owned both fn-fal's and m1-a's. i happen to think the 49-56 is the best battle rifle ever made. once i got my 49-46's sold my fn-fals, and m1as and have never looked back. always hated the h&k, so never bought one.
@johnbig8962
@johnbig8962 Ай бұрын
A while back you did a video on a semiautomatic 45caliber sten or stirling machine pistol how rare is this gun and how much did this gun go for at auction if Ivan ask this question
@wesleythomas1594
@wesleythomas1594 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting that he says as many as 80,000 of these were made. The number I have usually seen in the past in most sources, including in Jean Huon’s “Proud Promise” by Collector Grade is 20,600. It is a great rifle, and I have as of yet not had a problem with double fire using Prvi Partizan 7.5x54mm Mle. 1929 ammunition and I still have the original firing pin.
@oldgoat1890
@oldgoat1890 4 жыл бұрын
I have seen examples of serial numbers that range all the way up to 79,000 plus. I own one that is 79,8xx Once and a while you see a French issue pop up that is in the Syrian number range too.
@jackbauer7742
@jackbauer7742 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting to see the elevation knob on the side of the scope and not on top.
@ckl9390
@ckl9390 2 жыл бұрын
It would be nice if a modern remake of this could be made for the civilian market, but with the counter-sprung firing pin for safety, and for legal reasons the grenade hardware omitted and using an integral fixed 5-round magazine that is still fed by stripper clips.
@Destitute77
@Destitute77 5 жыл бұрын
Some say, the scriptures tell of Gun Jesus’ ability to give sub MOA to any firearm he blesses.......
@Bmd123
@Bmd123 5 жыл бұрын
PRAISE GUN JESUS FOR HE SAVETH ALL THE FORGOTTEN WEAPONS
@evanacey1414
@evanacey1414 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve never seen Ian respond to any comments on his videos before, but I have a (somewhat) personal question for him that I’m hoping somebody here is able to answer on his behalf: What/Who initially sparked Ian’s interest in collecting and learning everything about French firearms in particular?
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons 5 жыл бұрын
They are substantially distinctive from most other countries, under appreciated, and poorly documented in the US.
@shawnr771
@shawnr771 5 жыл бұрын
Apparently you dont read the comments very often. If you ask a good question instead of paying homage to memes or mention that you saw the weapon in video game. Ian is cool enough to answer.
@alexmuller1680
@alexmuller1680 5 жыл бұрын
@@ForgottenWeapons As French from Alsace (SACM, MANHURIN), I do have to say thank you from the bottom of my heart for your interest about our Gunsmith industry. Merci beaucoup Ian, tu es une merveilleuse source d'information et un historien passionné!
@evanacey1414
@evanacey1414 5 жыл бұрын
Shawn R I stand corrected
@koatsmagoats7145
@koatsmagoats7145 5 жыл бұрын
I can see I'm not the only one who came from Rising Storm 2: Vietnam. If anyone is curious a LOT of guns available in that game have been reviewed by Ian!
@ScottKenny1978
@ScottKenny1978 5 жыл бұрын
Ian, which firing pin would you prefer in your to-be-shot MAS49? Titanium, or Spring, and why?
@jerryjohnsonii4181
@jerryjohnsonii4181 5 жыл бұрын
Very interesting rifle Sir
@christopherconard2831
@christopherconard2831 5 жыл бұрын
A 3.85× power scope? What an oddly specific setting. Was this just a happenstance of the way they were manufactured, or was there a logic behind this choice?
@DNchap1417
@DNchap1417 3 жыл бұрын
Now I can see where Eugene Stoner got his inspiration... one of the few DI weapons that's not an AR10 or 15.
@vadenummela9353
@vadenummela9353 5 жыл бұрын
I bought the poster!
@theblueneko677
@theblueneko677 5 жыл бұрын
The MAS 44 is in BF5 and its my favorite semi auto rifle
@oldgoat1890
@oldgoat1890 4 жыл бұрын
The French issue 49 is quite rare in the U.S. I have one that is too high a serial # and to late of a barrel date to be Vietnam, but has no import stamp and was not rebuilt. It is in the condition that a Syrian contract would look. Algeria?
@moaceny946
@moaceny946 5 жыл бұрын
your book to read online? for us , non USA guys please ....
@patrickhernandez5460
@patrickhernandez5460 5 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing these on sale back in the day for $79.00.
@williamprince1114
@williamprince1114 5 жыл бұрын
I vaguely recall reading about Israeli captured MAS 49 s that the Israeli's rechambered to 7.62 NATO with kind if spotty results. Some worked reliably but others had issues with wandering zero & some issues feeding or ejecting. Any chance we may hear about these?
@Seb-Storm
@Seb-Storm 5 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the gas impingement system this rifle uses would create an issue with fogging the scope
@oldgoat1890
@oldgoat1890 4 жыл бұрын
No. Because the tube is IN the carrier, you get very little smoke.
@fabioquinones4607
@fabioquinones4607 5 жыл бұрын
(1) The distance between the stock and the scope seems a little too long. This would make for a poor cheek weld and an awkward rifle to fire. Can you confirm this? (2) I've heard that the rifles converted to 7.62mm NATO would have reliability/safety issues. Any info on that? Thanks for producing THE BEST gun channel on You Tube!
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons 5 жыл бұрын
I will cover the 7.62mm version next week. I find the scopes a bit high without a cheek riser, but the eye relief is not an issue for me.
@francislematt7079
@francislematt7079 5 жыл бұрын
Was that glow in the dark plastic charging handle mentioned?
@ritgrant
@ritgrant 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Ian, I'm really curious about how the MAS magazines worked with pouches or carries with that big latch on the side. Also the reliability of the latch, surely those springs had issues over time. Are these things we can expect to see in your book?
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons 5 жыл бұрын
There's really not much to say - the springs are really strong, and I have never heard complaints about them. The pouches were clumsy, and each pocket only held one mag. Standard load out was 4 mags, in 2 sets of side-by-side double pouches. Reloading was often done by stripper clip instead, from what I've been told.
@ritgrant
@ritgrant 5 жыл бұрын
Forgotten Weapons thank you much!
@MVolkJ
@MVolkJ 5 жыл бұрын
@@ritgrant You also see period pictures from Algeria where soldiers just have extra magazines clipped onto their TAP 50 web gear. The external clip was handy for that!
@kornofulgur
@kornofulgur 3 жыл бұрын
Somewhat between the Garand and the m14
@jaysonpower9673
@jaysonpower9673 5 жыл бұрын
I have a MAS 36 and a MAS 49/56. Now I need the middle parts
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