The Alternate (& Ultimate?) Dragon Ball Z Canon

[@MasakoX]

Thanks for watching! How would you use the movie characters in an official DBZ timeline? Please be sure to like, share and subscribe for more!

[@alfieingrouille1528]

Make what if about the old dbz movies being canon the events of one movie combined with the regular canon sagas adds to the next movie

[@stephenquinn3447]

I'd say wrath of the dragon could be changed to keep pui alive commanding hirudegarn

[@midnightlumina7]

Add GT to this timeline.

[@masterdarklink1]

How about the og Dragonball Movies too?

[@darthkoo5000]

Krillian and Zengya? Never heard of that pairing, but I have heard of Gohan and Zengya.

[@blackashketsoup7330]

This is very interesting. I guess Taipion being Canon might explain the sword on Trunks

[@Trelitty11]

Always been my explanation, before the oh that’s not canon thing and the internet , kid me absorbed everything as Dbz I never thought ab timelines and what not. But I mean wrath of dragon I feel like fits into the main timeline IMO , Just after the buu saga before battle of gods. But if not oh well it makes sense too me haha

[@Bobby__B]

@@Trelitty11 Yeah I immediately thought that's how Trunks got his sword. It's very fitting, and a passing the torch story from one hero to the next.

[@dawid3517]

@@Trelitty11 it doesn't really fit mainly becouse to open the music box and realese Tapion and Hirudegarn our heroes needed dragon balls that didn't exist in Trunks's timeline and becouse there is no way that Trunks could defeat Hirudegarn that made ssj3 Gotenks and ultimate Gohan look weak I prefer to take the ending scene of that movie as a homage to future Trunks

[@kaidorade1317]

“That is until Raditz…doesn’t show up!” Me: gasps!

[@rekc_bcq4816]

SOMEONE DRAW THE NEW TRUNKS WITH TURLES AS A DAD

[@MasakoX]

Make it happen, folks!

[@alotosius]

And Krillin + zangya!

[@COOLERthenU]

Since vegta had a son qnd rsdtiz had a duaghter bulma and turles should have an ebny with black hair but bulma hair styel

[@mikegates8993]

This might be one of the most creative videos Masako has done in a while and I love it.

[@MasakoX]

Thank you, Mike.

[@geekforeverpixelgamingsurl5007]

« Let’s give Chichi a headache. Seeing how she acts, she deserves it. » THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SPITTING THOSE FACTS.

[@darthkingedededbobo6117]

you really missed out on giving Trunks a time travel heart attack from learning of this timeline what a missed opportunity

[@phommonteros]

i absolutely love this alternative timeline!! it would be cool if you did a what if series on this timeline, adding more detail to these alternative sagas and making them more smoothly transition into eachother. what a sick video!!

[@bebopknux5857]

I need some MasakoX Movie Timeline Krillin and Zangya Stat. Also Black haired Trunks, *Especially* in the boujack clothes. I need this Hopium.

[@theraven1423]

I actually would like a long multi part story from this. Also since Turles is with Bulma in this timeline, Future Trunks is gonna be a tall guy because Turles is taller than Vegeta plus with a possible unique hair style, and extremely smart because Turles is a smart cookie in his own right.

[@theraven1423]

Also the artist making art of this version of Trunks should keep Trunks’ Blue eyes as it would look awesome with black hair.

[@TyzThePhoenix]

Trunks would look like purple haired Gohan from the what if Goku and bulma got married

[@davidcurtis7236]

There would be no Trunks, it would be a whole new character lmfao

[@Tamamo-no-Bae]

@@davidcurtis7236 It basically is though, just the name is the same.

[@leronturner5702]

@@davidcurtis7236 yeah yo it would be g string or boxers something like that

[@shygaifu3592]

I love the emphasis on Bulma's name instead of Vegeta at 12:18 because it implies Trunks was originally the son of Turles and Vegeta

[@VantasticJackson]

I talked to a friend a few weeks ago about how we can't call GT, Super's Anime or Super's Manga canon and noncanon but different continuities. Then we also talked about the movies. I showed him a video where someone explained why certain movies can't happen which explained how certain movies were very similar. Garlic Jr was similar to Raditz showing up, kidnapping Gohan and making Goku & Piccolo team up Turles was similar to Vegeta, an evil Saiyan arriving with a team to fight the Z Fighters and adding a Great Ape into the mix Cooler was similar to Frieza...i think you get it Also Tapion. Tapion was how Kid Trunks got his sword which he keeps through GT. However, it doesn't explain how Future Trunks has his sword. Plus DBS Kid Trunks doesn't have his sword at all

[@ParadiseDB7]

I agree with this interpretation too. Some people get wayyyyy to upset about a very black and white this, this and this are canon everything else is NOT!!! (Even though none of it's been confirmed but that's besides the point). I just look at them all as one big group of different continuities, timelines, whatever you want to call it. The DBS manga can be canon to the overall franchise, the DBS anime can be canon to the overall franchise and so on. Even Heroes/XenoVerse explaining how the DB universe has infinite timelines, it all supports this theory. It's also just... more fun that way?

[@pedroaugusto6814]

@@robot7935 True

[@Iruka1991]

Whomever owns dbz (toei or whatever) is famous for not taking risk. Their motto seems to be "if it aint broke don't fix it" they are the same people who didn't want goku to grow up because they were afraid kids wouldn't like it anymore. So of course when they have to make dbz products they stick to the formula that's working. Remaking each saga in the movies. Tapion is just an other kaio shin (but useful) janemba is fat buu. Cooler is freezer, etc. I believe that's the reason why people like the Broly movie so much. It was different. No villain before was like Broly (although he didn't have much personality) and the movie's plot wasn't about Goku which is something I sure the hier ups didn't like at all. (That's why Broly hated goku for a reason he shouldn't even remember)

[@Iruka1991]

Also, the reason trunks has a sword is because it looks cool 😜 Plus. Think about how trunks was dressing when he appeared. His pants up to his belly button, bowl cut, his mother's jacket (kinda short on him). If he wasn't ripped and had a sword he's look like a nerd.

[@reptilusreptosis6275]

I love the idea of movie 2 becoming a Mortal Kombat/Enter the Dragon tournament plot line with the kidnapped fighters. It would have given the OG Dragon Ball fighters a much clearer send-off rather than just ignoring them

[@kanseiyamazaru435]

FINALLY! Me and a buddy spent an entire day talking about this and I kept thinking to myself, "why hadn't anyone else thought of this?!"

[@geekforeverpixelgamingsurl5007]

Love it ! At first, I wasn’t a fan of Turles turning good but hey, we did need Trunks to exist (though not sure why his hair would now be black) and not only does Bulma X Turles sounds like a fun ship, I do like the idea of Turles joining the good guys and having a family while retaining some of his sinister yet kind of chill behavior. Sounds fun.

[@Rockden]

I guess Trunks didn't hit the lavander genetic lottery this time around

[@michaelsarmiento3057]

It would have been better if you ship Tights with Turles. It is better than Bulma x Turles.

[@mikegates8993]

@@michaelsarmiento3057 Why exactally? Bulma makes as much sense with Turles as with Vegeta.

[@michaelsarmiento3057]

@@mikegates8993 It just that I saw Turles x Tights on deviantart.

[@mikegates8993]

@@michaelsarmiento3057 Fair enough, I enjoy a few ships in the Neptunia series for a similar reason.

[@RedTygon]

I would honestly love to see more of Zangya in these. Honestly when I was younger I had a bit of a crush on her in the games (yes I didn't see Bojak til later in my life.) She really is one of the better looking females and feel she would have been a more interesting and fun coupling with the Krill dog. :D

[@DataDrain02]

... Is it bad that I want to hear this fleshed out more? I feel like the potential character interactions would be really interesting....

[@Mr.Needle-Hamster]

Exactly!

[@wassuprory]

THIS. This is exactly the kind of Masako video I was craving. A true elseworlds, wildcard video that goes absolutely buck wild with everyone involved. Amazing work man ❤️

[@shelbybayer200]

Vegeta still can be Canon in this timeline It's just that the way he joins is VERY different

[@Nougatbars]

Whatcha thinking?

[@ThatLocalYapper]

Im thinking he saves Obama and works at subway

[@MemewaveKillfeed]

@@ThatLocalYapper based

[@bigboy2281]

Maybe when we get into super vegeta takes the place of broly but instead of being legendary he just trained nonstop for his whole life there to explain why he is so strong

[@ASpaceOstrich]

Imagine that in this version of the show, there are non canon movies that feature concepts like "the brother of Cooler shows up for revenge" and "Gero had another android in mind, a bug man capable of absorbing two other androids to achieve a perfect form". I want to see your take on making non canon movie timeline versions of the real sagas that fit into this alternate storyline.

[@boonies4u]

Glad I was able to catch this! Saiyan Z Fighters being famous and Turles being Vegeta's replacement certainly would make the world of Z quite different.

[@supernerd8067]

Wow! This is an interesting one! Funny thing is I was thinking about something similar with a Dragon Ball reboot idea where the story is told through Goku Jr. with Pan and other surviving characters telling him the story of Son Goku. Junior would then use the lessons or elements from those stories to fight similar villains in his time - the movie villains.

[@wolfgod6443]

Well this was a pleasant surprise. What I like about the DBZ films is they're like a toolbox of ideas, plotlines, and character that anyone is free to use how they want. I just sort of want to prattle on about alternative ways to make this story work. Wheelo could be the Raditz of this story instead of Cacao. He could see that Turles's ship will arrive on Earth eventually from his Arctic base and decide the Earth needs the ultimate lifeform, a combination of the greatest mind and strongest body. It makes Wheelo slightly more sympathetic/justified but his ego and grim past keep him as an antagonist. Anyway he could allude to Turles's arrival to segway into the next arc. You could have a Super Vegeta moment but instead with Turles, and he defeats Super Android 13 while Goku and Gohan train in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber. It doesn't change anything and this way Super Android 13 is closer to his power level in the movie. Though it's anti-climatic.

[@devilmikey00]

It'd have been interesting. The pacing of the whole show would have been radically different compared to the real thing. In DBZ you have 4 big sagas vs. having 13 with the movies. The whole thing would either have to be One Piece long or much more tightly paced akin to MHA.

[@MIrfanPerdana]

Well, since this would've been back in the '90s, then it would definitely lean more towards One Piece length.

[@nicwoolfe3885]

Aww yeah, Lord Slug finally gets his time to shine!

[@DrSunnyPyro]

IT IS A GOOD DAY FOR KING PICCOLO

[@batguy39]

Down bad

[@HeartofBattlechannel]

I agree, Lord Slug needs more shine and something that makes him stand out from King Piccolo and Piccolo jr

[@nicwoolfe3885]

@@HeartofBattlechannel My favorite idea for Slug is that the Namekian Elders released Slug to fight Freeza’s invading forces, which resulted in a grander war when the Dragon Team arrives.

[@Sephini]

Good sir, I applaud you. You did a great job using the movies to create a very interesting parallel series that I'm almost saddened by for not existing.

[@BWX4]

Great yarn, here! Very creative way of looping in all the movies into something cohesive. Like others have said, you could've stretched this out into its own series for several weeks, and I would've tuned in for every ep! So...when's "Revival 'C'"? 8D If you are going to continue this "canon", I'd also suggest freely looping in fitting stuff from Heroes, FighterZ, Fusions and the like, since they're pretty much the new "Extended canon" just like the movies once were. Instead of fooling around with Gods and Angels, let's go have Goku, Turles and the gang go mess around with Demons in the Demon World!

[@codenate02]

I'd like to imagine that since Goku and Turles look the same, Gorles would just be Goku but slightly taller

[@LucidPhoton]

I'd like to see this time line play out. It's interesting to hear all this. You did a good job making this make sense lol. Do a time line of DBZ where it's nothing but the filler arcs lol.

[@aurav4643]

This video make me think that "What if Turles replaced Vegeta ?" would be cool x')

[@SaraBlade]

You know this completely changes how Resurrection F would work as that was Frieza training to achieve a higher power for revenge but he only does that because of Goku. There are a lot of options to explore here in this new version of Z and Super.

[@ASpaceOstrich]

Have Freeza show up as this never before seen brother of Cooler, out for revenge, and whipping out a new higher transformation that blindsides the cast. Basically, you make Freeza into Cooler.

[@Hadeks_Marow]

The best part about this video is to the casual DBZ fans who know as much of the show as "kai" where anything from the movies is considered "obscure", my favorite part is _those_ people will have NO idea what you are talking about and will have a hard time keeping up. And I find that. . . . high-larious.

[@madkingcat]

This has got to be one of the best dbz what if kind of videos I've seen in a while! Great work Masako!

[@LegalizeMaron7110]

I'm so Excited for Part 2 of this What if! This is Awesome

[@superjd648]

This was a cool idea! If you're up for it, Masako, I wouldn't mind a long multi part series of this version of the Dragon Ball Z timeline.

[@devincamp8274]

You said, "over a thousand videos" and seriously, I've been watching since you first uploaded after first making this channel, and that is *INSANE*. I've always loved everything you've made and come up with, but hearing that? That's crazy to me. Thank you SO much for keeping me entertained with DB stuff for the past 6-7 years! Again man, that's nuts to me. THANK YOU!!!!! ^w^ Edit; No matter at any time the views you get, just know, there's thousands of people who are just like me, who wait for each and every upload, just waiting to hear the next story from you. Godspeed man.

[@FlyingwithFire]

you should do a part 2 but with the canon events taken place after all these adventures with characters scaled up to match

[@nightlypiano41]

I just love the gag of everyone mistaking Turles for Goku

[@dio_branflakes9953]

This is better than 8 hours of sleep

[@mariobermudez1228]

Wonderful work with this time line!

[@funkmastaC]

Movie timeline is best timeline. They make sense together and are an interesting alternate interpretation of the story.

[@TomaSaiyan]

I’m honestly really curious to see this be a full fledged what if as I think it would be fun or at least make a continuation of this but going into super as what if parts continuing were this video left off

[@Debatra.]

You could have introduced Vegeta during the first Broly movie, as part of Paragus' revenge plot.

[@Tay-xj5ud]

Turles: Hey Vegeta! I'm replacing you! Vegeta: NOOOOOO

[@VaultN95]

Cooler just lost his entire family. Welp, at least he is still Frieza.

[@superlombax1561]

Lol

[@MaveriKat]

In this AU (Alternate&Ultimate?) Dragon Ball Z, I can only imagine how people would be reacting to the movies. Such gems as, "Oh geeze! We only found out that Goku's an alien and now THE PRINCE of his Species shows up out of nowhere?" or even, "Oh for the love of--Cooler has a YOUNGER brother named Frieza!? And he doesn't armor up but goes GOLD like a Super Saiyan!?" And of course there, "Oh that's an interesting idea to have the Gero A.I. give itself an Android body but come on! Androids 16 through 20!? How long are they going to milk this idea!?" Oddly enough, there is a huge, HUGE fanbase around Cell, who is seen as the ultimate fighter due to having the DNA of all the others... to the point he's actually reworked and made canon come the 2018 movie, "Dragon Ball Super: Cell".

[@brbboi309]

Dragon ball super? I think your mistaking it for dragon ball GT: Cell

[@saivarshith9530]

I hope Xenoverse 2 developers would listen to this man and make a sequel to the game. It would be cool if we could choose which time line we want our game to move.

[@charlottearanea7507]

Something about this made me really nostalgic. Really brought me back to how huge and expansive Dragon Ball felt back in the day with the movies and the filler and everything. The streamlined way we usually watch DBK nowadays just doesn't quite capture that magic.

[@joj5150]

this is so accurate. i feel like new dragon ball fans don't understand how nuanced the fandom used to be.

[@Trashboat4444]

@@joj5150 what is nuanced?

[@f-zilla7347]

Yes! To me, Dragon Ball was a huge world of the anime (DB, DBZ, DBGT), all it’s filler and the movies. I know that a lot of it isn’t very great or perfect, but I still love it.

[@ASpaceOstrich]

My first thought is that this will work pretty well, because a lot of the DBZ movies are basically copies of the saga they came out in. You've got the Cell style absorbtion powerup in Super 13. You've got Cooler, who is basically Freeza with a sexier voice. You've got Janemba, a fat idiot who turns into a dangerous malicious embodiment of chaotic evil.

[@Jstar95175]

That felt surprisingly believable! Very good work

[@kingkurok3149]

Well this was certainly a fun and interesting video, perhaps you can do more like these in the future, maybe one where you take elements from Super to improve GT, idk

[@CountDVB]

Definitly quite good! Though Turles with Bulma is certainly interesting there. Turles is definitely pretty cold though. I'm guessing that like Vegeta, seeing his potential son in danger is what's gonna be what causes him to finally reach the emotion needed to transform

[@charlesbaicy3295]

I like that power creep doesn’t seem to be an issue in this timeline either. Everyone has a relevant role and isn’t ridiculously left behind like the original canon.

[@alotosius]

Thank you Masako, this must have been a doozy to stitch together.

[@mjshades05]

I like this alternate timeline, but I kind of wish you had made Turles not only a replacement for Vegeta, but also a replacement for Raditz. Thus giving an explanation as to why they look so similar: they are twin brothers.

[@LordYamcha]

Love this Timeline - always out with the most grounded and fun What If's Masako - great work 🤗

[@richardwood9784]

No Ultimate Gohan in this timeline. I wonder if that means he finds an alternate path to power like he claims to be attempting in the Manga version of the ToP. Or if he'll simply follow dear old dad down the route of Super Saiyan God.

[@FoolsGil]

I think it's a bit of a stretch, and takes away from Goku's originality that we're going to have Turles long term. But for the most part I liked this.

[@Gypsygeekfreak17]

i love these sort of videos thank you mossy

[@GlitchManOmega]

As someone who's nearly done with a playthrough of Pokemon Gold '97 Reforged, this idea of swapping the established canon with a completely different one that's still somewhat "real" for lack of a better word, this is VERY interesting.

[@squeethemog213]

This timeline is so freaking awesome 😍

[@geistgrace6452]

As long as my boy Tapion gets some time to shine, I'm happy.

[@ninjabluefyre3815]

Now we need to reverse this, what if the main Z arcs were movies?

[@auditect950]

Would King Cold still exist in this timeline? Being a villian in the original story should mean he dosen't, but the appearance of Cooler would mean that Cold does exist in this timeline. EDIT: He most likely passed away before the events of the series, similar to Dr. Gero.

[@roymerkel8008]

~1:47: Phantom Zone movie: as I recall this movie is cannon, or at least pseudo-cannon for DBZ (depending if you count Anime filler or not), meaning it would be only one of first thirteen movies in both the cannon timeline and this alternate timeline.

[@mjefferson3223]

Geez masako how do you make these intriguing what if’s? This might be the most interesting what if so far

[@ArticDiamond]

This was like a breath of fresh air

[@sceauhrhoades4369]

I have a question for a request could you make a theory of what if trunks Time Machine was found earlier because no one’s made one yet and I’m intrigued to figure out what I thought happened

[@GhostLordRetro]

4:19 That was something I needed!

[@bicokun]

It would have been even more interesting if you’d been able to use the Dragon Ball movies as well, since a lot of that was basically retelling Dragon Ball with slight differences. Seems a little weird not to include main universe characters that appeared in the movies if they were introduced in the main timeline, though, since almost every character was introduced in the main universe aside from the villains. It would have been fun to find a way to introduce Vegeta/18 within the context of the first movie in which they appeared, but they would simply be at whatever development they were at the time (heck, 18 could have just been Lazuli who was saved by Krillin from getting kidnapped for androidification).

[@sincere745]

Very good video

[@StormSnakeMG]

Bulma really said "Welp, couldn't have Goku, let me grab his evil brother from another mother instead"

[@AidanDownes_KH]

I’d like to say thank you for being my teacher into the deep and vast world of dragon ball.

[@astolfo2305]

nice what if but longer version would be nice more details and dialogue

[@justinpullen1097]

Found myself wanting to watch this again and I'm just really fascinated with the ideas presented. I'd kinda wanna know how the events of Super would play out in this timeline, especially the ToP.

[@TailsClock]

Gorles? Cmon. He coulda been named Letsgo! Oh I guess that'd be the potara form. Also did you just skip over them defeating #13? Oh no, you said "however" after he was defeated in a way that just sounded like you were going to reveal he was okay. "however" was not a good way to transition from that scene. The loss of Gotenks is fine. The lack of potara makes sense as Supreme Kai does not show up. Which I hope means we get to see more of Grand Kai. Overall, I really like this alternate world. It's insane how different it is, and yet it's so familiar that I feel like I've already seen it. We have all the pieces to make it. In one alternate universe, we've got people discussing if the movies can be canon, Where we got the Raditz movie, the Prince Vegeta movie, Cooler's angry family movie, the addition of 3 more androids... Which I feel has enough to be it's own movie without Cell, but how would that end in a way that would allow for a Cell movie? I suppose we just rely on time travel. And then finally the Buu movie where we'd get Gotenks, but I wonder if we'd even need a potara fusion for Goku and Turles if they have the dance. That's not too many movies. But I can already see them writing Vegeta into the canon eventually as he's such a popular movie character. Oh man! Woah! Holdup! I just realised, if we're swapping canon and non-canon. Does this mean Super came next as a shorter series that no-one liked, and then GT comes in as the real canon continuation? That's an awesome timeline! Edit: After reading the comments I realise that we'd get a post DBZ movie introducing us to Android 21, in way that doesn't make Buu and the Android movies canon, (Like how we got the canon Broly movie in our own timeline.) but uses elements from them to add the best bits from those movies into the canon. I guess after that ends and she is defeated, she'd get to come back as her own version of Uub. Or... I guess there are several ways to end that as a canon movie. As for our timeline canon Broly, I can't see any way to make him fit into this alternate world. Because why would they make a non-canon movie about him, that ignores the canon? Unless it takes place in Trunks' future timeline maybe? Though. The broly movie even in our own timeline hardly feels canon when Broly is never seen or heard from ever again for the rest of Super. It's odd.

[@BBBHuey]

Imagine if OG Dragon Ball had Garlic Jr. instead of Pilaf, Dr Wheelo instead of Adjutant Black and Lord Slug instead of Piccolo? ^^ Still, the OG series would most likely have their movie villains King Gourmet as Pilaf and Lucifer as the leader of the Red Ribbon Army or as a King Piccolo replacement.

[@belalabusultan5911]

can you continue with DB Super? I imagine Goku and Turles vs Goku Black would be a headache, so maybe have Broly Black? also I am not sure if there is enough material to cover outside DBS Super Hero, since the first 2 movies you'll just replace Vegeta with Turles, and give Trunks blac hair.... so maybe continue into DBS series instead?

[@hollowshinobi1880]

What about the Yo Son Goku! Movie?!? *sigh* guess Tarble doesn’t get the idea to visit earth with no vegeta in the story And yes, yes he would still be canon here. After all, he was never a villain

[@youdom5]

Now I wanna see this continue in the Super timeline badly

[@VirginStarrrrr]

Now I wanna see a multi part of this. Mostly because I wanna see more turles and bulma and what Marron would look like... Wait, would garlic jr still happen in this story because garlic jr is still canon? Would Marron even exist?

[@VirginStarrrrr]

@Luis Suazo yeah I can understand that, but in this specific canon would that arc still take place? There's a chance of it of course lol

[@TheAustralianMapper5378]

So a half Hera Merron interesting.

[@tylorkenniston1192]

Okay, someone make this show, because this is dope.

[@Jpweidner17]

Can we get a part two into Super using this timeline and supers events (Resurrection F= Resurrection C)

[@THE_KIRYU]

Gorles:"I'm neither Goku or Dark Goku, I'm the one who's going to defeat you!"

[@thegloriouswizard5270]

Sweet☆☆ kinda wish this was a game or a comic☆

[@Randy_The_Dragon_Star]

PLEASE. do A part 2 where we see what would happen in super or GT after this

[@Eric-gp3hi]

This is a great placement for the movie characters in the main Dbz timeline.

[@echosnake1]

Since the video about What if the DBZ Movies Were Canon was made before Dragon Ball Super: Broly, I wonder how you'd go about trying to incorporate DBZ Broly and DBS Broly into the same canon. It'd require a LOT of creative gymnastics, but I wonder what you could come up with.

[@jeremiahbennett3004]

Just pull something like maybe super Broly being a universe 5 saiyan, since Kale is u6s version of broly

[@noahmagana137]

This is one very well thought out and really wish this was an anime series

[@bellowingsilence]

Now: time for a multiversal war to send this timeline clashing with the original one.

[@ashsquest1235]

This is really good

[@ashsquest1235]

This made Turles so much cooler

[@ashsquest1235]

This made Cooler so much turles

[@insanemakaioshin]

17:20 - Goku was wished back previously during this version of the Saiyan saga also. Shenron can’t revive him again.

[@Solesteam]

Aren't those blue cabbage creatures mechanical duplicates of the Green cabbage creatures (I'm not going to attempt to spell the name because I don't have a clue how one would spell it) that nappa had? So he couldn't have made the blue ones because they have no idea the biological design of the green ones.

[@strider_hiryu850]

you know, i've always had a sort of bone to pick with movie 7. if you're designing your own canon, you can finish the villain off however, even if it doesn't match the original movie. so why not have Piccolo absorb Lord Slug? i could see Piccolo fusing with Lord Slug before he even get's off the ship. he then walks out like: "nevermind, i already took care of him." or Gohan asks him: "did you just.. take care of a big bad single handedly?" and Piccolo responds with: "yeah but, don't count on it." this would probably be a Piccolo after he's reformed, or it could set up for him returning as a main villain again. he could even absorb Guru, Kami, and Nail for good measure. i could see this version of Super Piccolo becoming a real threat, or a critical ally. interesting to think about, don't you agree?

[@rayhayes7701]

Ok this I like. Making the movie villians canon and you know I love Cooler.

[@tomcurl8034]

for the 2nd movie maybe have android 8 in it because he has a strong robot body that looks human so wheelo might want his body but be unable to use it and reprogram eighter to be his minion also have him in the android 13 movie after all the idea of android 8 taking a stand against dr gero would be cool

[@mittensfastpaw]

I'm going to need a what if saga mate.

[@AstraFulminous]

This is gonna be good.

[@RushedToma]

Good sir MasakoX Cam you do a video of Cc goku or xeno goku and talk about their strength?