The BIGGEST AND BEST Retcon In Dragon Ball History

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MasakoX

MasakoX

3 жыл бұрын

#DragonBallSuper does have its quirks from time to time, but this particular moment in the Dragon Ball Super manga changes a HUGE part of #DragonBallZ which made people very confused. When it comes to the Goku vs Uub arc in Dragon Ball Z and the End of Z section, Super makes that WHOLE mini saga much better. A 25 year problem fixed! Let's discuss why this retcon is probably of the best in #DragonBall and its entire history.
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@MasakoX
@MasakoX 3 жыл бұрын
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@imposterstormz6651
@imposterstormz6651 3 жыл бұрын
BUT MASAKO when will you continue what if raditz turned good into the Moro arc
@imposterstormz6651
@imposterstormz6651 3 жыл бұрын
BUT MASAKO in the raditz what if goten should have super saiyan god or blue because he trained with goku
@RealB0ssMak3r
@RealB0ssMak3r 3 жыл бұрын
Pan actually being stronger than she looks gives it away in Super.
@lucifermorningstar4548
@lucifermorningstar4548 3 жыл бұрын
Who the hell is Havarock?
@Mr.Moselyy
@Mr.Moselyy 3 жыл бұрын
I think your confused on the definition of retcon
@ImzyH
@ImzyH 3 жыл бұрын
The way uub was introduced and retconned is awesome The way they gave him God ki is so cool The reincarnated Kid buu had the God essence of dai kaio and then reincarnated and that power is placed in uub so sick
@lazyproductions8005
@lazyproductions8005 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I’m gonna be honest I forgot that tidbit and when they ‘revealed’ it it felt really awesome to me.
@RedXlV
@RedXlV 3 жыл бұрын
Plus imagine if they have Uub and Buu do a fusion dance.
@ImzyH
@ImzyH 3 жыл бұрын
@@RedXlV that'll be op
@Kaymations
@Kaymations 3 жыл бұрын
i don't like that he has so much god ki
@RedXlV
@RedXlV 3 жыл бұрын
@@Kaymations I like it, it gives Uub a reason to be relevant instead of getting powercreeped into oblivion by the introduction of GoDs and Super Saiyan Blue and Ultra Instinct.
@j.i.k2.044
@j.i.k2.044 3 жыл бұрын
Uub has already done more in Super than the entirety of GT
@nobodysixty96
@nobodysixty96 3 жыл бұрын
what makes this so much better is that it is actually true....
@bluebandit9715
@bluebandit9715 3 жыл бұрын
In all seriousness has he though? Gt uub did more but was a lot less useful this uub did less so far but has been very useful
@BearPumpkin160
@BearPumpkin160 3 жыл бұрын
Ehh........ debatable
@bluebandit9715
@bluebandit9715 3 жыл бұрын
@@BearPumpkin160 if your talking to me I only mean how active uub is in gt vs super for now, super uub is more useful but gt uub is more active and the majuub form got done dirty
@j.i.k2.044
@j.i.k2.044 3 жыл бұрын
@@bluebandit9715 The only thing GT Uub has done more than Super Uub is have more screen time thats literally it. Uub in Super had less screen time and contributed to saving the entire Universe at the same time showing his potiental which was foreshadowed in chapter 49 and solidified in chapter 66.
@ajaki_11
@ajaki_11 3 жыл бұрын
I really like the way they had introduced Uub,instead of usually saying something like "Oh there's a boy out there blah blah" they actually made him a factor for Goku being able to defeat Moro,which is a great way to insert him into the story,by actually making him somewhat important to the arc.
@kingkurok3149
@kingkurok3149 3 жыл бұрын
I mean they did that part in a previous arc of the manga
@iantaakalla8180
@iantaakalla8180 3 жыл бұрын
It also is a neat feature of the Galactic Prisoners Saga that they have Buu fight Moro in the middle and have Uub be key to defeating Moro in the end.
@turqoutic3281
@turqoutic3281 3 жыл бұрын
*Uub : gets to the dbs story* *DBS broly: still on planet vampa*
@nicholaskling2425
@nicholaskling2425 3 жыл бұрын
No, there’s a page in the manga that shows the Broly fight. The manga just wasn’t going to do another movie recap arc
@Dexuz
@Dexuz 3 жыл бұрын
@@nicholaskling2425 Nothing to do with what he said.
@virtualworldmaster4104
@virtualworldmaster4104 3 жыл бұрын
Masako : gohan is a half saiyan they mature fast Goten and trunks :👁️👄👁️
@TonyMishima92
@TonyMishima92 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I don't know where he got that from.
@eonnexus
@eonnexus 3 жыл бұрын
I think he was talking mentally, which they do, Goten just takes after his father in that regard.
@TonyMishima92
@TonyMishima92 3 жыл бұрын
@@eonnexus There isn't much to base that assumption on. Saiyans fighting young may have more to do with the fact that they're simply strong enough to do it.
@eonnexus
@eonnexus 3 жыл бұрын
@@TonyMishima92 That's fair, to be honest, I'm not too sure myself where the idea that Saiyans mature faster come from myself, but it's one of the more widely accepted things about them. Maybe Vegeta or Raditz mentioned it once? I doubt Masako would use it seriously if it originated from the Fandom.
@TonyMishima92
@TonyMishima92 3 жыл бұрын
@@eonnexus I couldn't find anything verifying what he said. Maybe it's a conclusion he personally came to.
@Jakeverhart
@Jakeverhart 3 жыл бұрын
Why are trunks and goten still children?!
@deathglock496
@deathglock496 3 жыл бұрын
Probably couldn't make a design for their tweenage selves.
@Bruno-fw6nw
@Bruno-fw6nw 3 жыл бұрын
It's not that hard, they already have a desing for them, a more mature one, but stil
@autumbreeze1129
@autumbreeze1129 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah. That was one of my biggest issues early on in Super. Videl and Gohan are clearly older at the beginning of Super, what with them being married and Pan on the way inside Videl... but Goten and Trunks haven't even aged a day and still haven't by the time we get to the Broly movie? I sincerely doubt Bulma is wishing them younger along with herself too.
@autumbreeze1129
@autumbreeze1129 3 жыл бұрын
@@Bruno-fw6nw heck, they could even go with their End of Z look, but NOPE. Leave them little kids. NO ONE will notice that
@theamazingmaymay123
@theamazingmaymay123 3 жыл бұрын
Curious as they legit have some decent teen designs.
@BlackKnightOfTheWind
@BlackKnightOfTheWind 3 жыл бұрын
This actually makes a surprising amount of sense, especially considering one fact about Uub that's been staring us in the face since his introduction: his hair, he has the same style of hair that all of the Supreme Kais have.
@TonyMishima92
@TonyMishima92 3 жыл бұрын
Great eye.
@deathxanamon7211
@deathxanamon7211 3 жыл бұрын
Huh, neat. Knowing Toriyama that was 100% a coincidence.
@b_yo7463
@b_yo7463 3 жыл бұрын
🙁🙁🙁😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱
@Mari_Izu
@Mari_Izu 3 жыл бұрын
@@deathxanamon7211 Exactly lol
@crisisamonginfinitedarthsa4220
@crisisamonginfinitedarthsa4220 3 жыл бұрын
Does anyone else feel that Uub is the Mothra of Dragon Ball? A powerful and mystical fighter who is (or should be) a show stealer and a pivotal ally of Earth.
@k1ngk4gl3
@k1ngk4gl3 3 жыл бұрын
I want the next generation of Z-Fighters to be Uub, Pan, Trunks, & Floot [my name for a hypothetical Piccolo offspring]. I want it so bad.
@RedDragonForce2
@RedDragonForce2 3 жыл бұрын
@@k1ngk4gl3 led by Gohan as tactical advisor.
@hunterv9983
@hunterv9983 3 жыл бұрын
@@RedDragonForce2 Gohan: From now on, you will only refer to me as Mr. Gohan. First lesson. DODGE!!!!
@kingkurok3149
@kingkurok3149 3 жыл бұрын
Weird but accurate comparison
@korpionkingdeacon4577
@korpionkingdeacon4577 3 жыл бұрын
@@k1ngk4gl3 What about my by goten? No love for little goku? 😂
@rexlumontad5644
@rexlumontad5644 3 жыл бұрын
Buu and subsequently Grand Supreme Kai being involved in the Moro arc is quite a surprise but a welcome one.
@oguzhangungor9117
@oguzhangungor9117 3 жыл бұрын
I am a Majin Buu fanboy so everything related to him makes me hyped.
@ChiefMedicPururu
@ChiefMedicPururu 3 жыл бұрын
Awww..
@SWyrick366
@SWyrick366 3 жыл бұрын
Buu is my second favorite villian in DBZ.
@chocolate_pudding
@chocolate_pudding 3 жыл бұрын
@@SWyrick366 whos first? frieza?
@SWyrick366
@SWyrick366 3 жыл бұрын
@@chocolate_pudding nope, MR. PERFECT CELL.
@shanemays3696
@shanemays3696 3 жыл бұрын
Buu's absorbing abilities are probably why he wasn't included. So many strong fighters and chaos to take advantage of
@AzureToroto
@AzureToroto 3 жыл бұрын
That would certainly be chaotic, considering he would not only be able to absorb abilities, but Personality traits from the people he absorbs as well. It would have gotten out of hand.
@nicholaskling2425
@nicholaskling2425 3 жыл бұрын
Also, we know his ability to absorb isn’t limited by power. Buuccolo was able to absorb Mystic Gohan despite being way weaker. There is nothing to prevent Buu from absorbing Hit and/or Jiren and using their power to just clean house
@sadib100
@sadib100 3 жыл бұрын
I thought the best retcon was making Goku into a Saiyan.
@kanetsugu21
@kanetsugu21 3 жыл бұрын
Yep. The whole modern franchise wouldn't exist without that. This is the best under rated comment. 👍
@fawfulmark2
@fawfulmark2 3 жыл бұрын
While I do have a fondness for what happened afterwards in hindsight the whole "everything that happened before was because of aliens!" twist was a bit of a copout and began the severe powercreep trend that led to many of the original cast going AWOL.
@sadib100
@sadib100 3 жыл бұрын
@@fawfulmark2 I think it's fine as long as we all agree that it's a retcon.
@ryanm.8720
@ryanm.8720 3 жыл бұрын
@@fawfulmark2 While it was completely unintentional by Akira Toriyama, Goku being an alien was foreshadowed. "So what's the deal, is Goku some kind of alien?" - Oolong, Dragon Ball "LOOK ALIENS" - Major Metallitron's scanner, describing Goku, Dragon Ball
@ianbattles7290
@ianbattles7290 3 жыл бұрын
#20/Gero: "I thought you were a demon?" Piccolo "Nope. Slug man."
@pissedhulk7794
@pissedhulk7794 3 жыл бұрын
I wanna see Uub fully trained, older and kicking ass. He's the ultimate disciple!
@a.jthomas6132
@a.jthomas6132 3 жыл бұрын
Pan would make a great sparring partner and lover to him.
@DMS_Shisui
@DMS_Shisui 3 жыл бұрын
@@a.jthomas6132 I would say Marron. Since Uub's 3-5 years older than Pan.
@bricknard
@bricknard 3 жыл бұрын
@Pissed Hulk I believe that title belongs to Kenichi Shirihama 😅
@pissedhulk7794
@pissedhulk7794 3 жыл бұрын
@@bricknard a fully trained Uub could take the title from him.😌
@nicwoolfe3885
@nicwoolfe3885 3 жыл бұрын
Uub is OP, please don’t nerf, Triple T!!!
@chocolate_pudding
@chocolate_pudding 3 жыл бұрын
huh
@wolfgod6443
@wolfgod6443 3 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing all the fan manga where Majuub releases his true majin form, and the old evil Buu takes control. But now, far into the future (be it GT reimagine or new fan stories), I would love to see the Grand Supreme Kai tapped into. Being a human with effectively God and Satan in a way.
@Deoxys911
@Deoxys911 3 жыл бұрын
Uub is going to be a gray Jedi confirmed.
@zxtreme31
@zxtreme31 3 жыл бұрын
Easiest way I can think of to have buu in the TOP and eliminated is have Buu be the one who frost traps in Roshi’s mafuba instead of vegeta. They could’ve made out that the mafuba pulls every essence of buu from arena, not just his primary form. But instead of what happened with vegeta, Roshi doesn’t save buu before he’s eliminated. Also you can have the same gag about falling asleep one they release Buu from the bottle in the stands.
@mds_516
@mds_516 3 жыл бұрын
That's a good idea. Another one could have been to have Jiren eliminate him similarly to how he did with Maji Kajo in the anime since MK was a very similar being to MB (which infuriates me even more). They should have left him in, if they wanted Freeza they could have replaced someone else like Krillin.
@olsongc8422
@olsongc8422 3 жыл бұрын
@@mds_516 Let's be real, they would have sidelined Gohan
@futurevisionarchives3995
@futurevisionarchives3995 3 жыл бұрын
But Tenshinhan was right there to be replaced, he took down one guy and did nothing else Krillin while not doing much was definitely more deserving to be in the ToP than what they did with Tenshinhan
@mds_516
@mds_516 3 жыл бұрын
@@futurevisionarchives3995 Yeah it's true that Tien was probably the best option with the benefit of hindsight, but I like Tien more and he really was mistreated and misused in Super, Krillin gets all the attention just because he's Goku's best friend and he's more marketable let's be real.
@futurevisionarchives3995
@futurevisionarchives3995 3 жыл бұрын
@@mds_516 Yeah idk why Tien gets shafted all the time, as well as Yamcha even though they were very prominent in Early Dragonball (i am doing a franchise rewatch starting with the original and working my way up the list, probably ending with Super since that is the only series i don't fully have yet
@DaMainman2
@DaMainman2 3 жыл бұрын
11:41 - "[God Ki] can be pretty destructive if unchecked, and requires a special type of preparation." True, even the most experienced fighters use Preparation G from time to time.
@soul_hero
@soul_hero 3 жыл бұрын
The best retcon ever was making the Pilaf gang babies so that it’s almost impossible for GT to happen
@ChiefMedicPururu
@ChiefMedicPururu 3 жыл бұрын
Kids, not babies.
@deathglock496
@deathglock496 3 жыл бұрын
@@ChiefMedicPururu babies actually. See the bonus pages in the manga.
@Naruku2121
@Naruku2121 3 жыл бұрын
Well you could argue they at some point decided to try and fix their ages, but in a gag they either made themselves *TOO* old by not wishing it properly, or realized how old they actually are and decided to use the Black Star balls because they already messed up and used the normal ones.
@ChiefMedicPururu
@ChiefMedicPururu 3 жыл бұрын
@@Naruku2121 This would kinda work, but Pilaf seemed more interested in conquering the world than fixing their ages, if that would be the case.
@soul_hero
@soul_hero 3 жыл бұрын
@@Naruku2121 if only the black star dragon balls were a thing right? Oh and if you haven’t noticed they are very happy with their new lives, making everything you just said pointless
@bithius4553
@bithius4553 3 жыл бұрын
not gonna lie i'm actually pretty pleased they went and did this had some some gripes with the original
@ChiChiLand299
@ChiChiLand299 3 жыл бұрын
There's also the fact that dende told Goku to train him. Because he is afraid of what would happen to UuB if his powers develop on their own unguided. the kid could accidentally blow up the planet so Goku's also protecting the planet by training uub, as well as dende was worried about would he be evil?
@TonyMishima92
@TonyMishima92 3 жыл бұрын
Great point.
@rexlumontad5644
@rexlumontad5644 3 жыл бұрын
2:38 Southern Supreme Kai: *sad noises of being forgotten*
@way2creative
@way2creative 3 жыл бұрын
My problem with Uub is the same problem with Gohan. He could've been a great character if Goku didn't come back and do the work himself. Also just make Uub and Pan friends that fight side by side like a Goku and Krillen/vegeta rivalry and friendship
@dominiqueodom3099
@dominiqueodom3099 3 жыл бұрын
Why not make it a relationship? It would add another Romance if done well,similar to Something like Gohan and Videl-before the Spopovich fight.
@jmunny17
@jmunny17 3 жыл бұрын
@@dominiqueodom3099 That could easily work. tbh I still want Gohan to be the dude we all know he can be.
@Mari_Izu
@Mari_Izu 3 жыл бұрын
@@dominiqueodom3099 "Why not make it a relationship?" Uub is 5 years older.
@bennyce5430
@bennyce5430 3 жыл бұрын
In Absalon they married. Absalon was possibly better.. To this day
@mobyhuge4346
@mobyhuge4346 3 жыл бұрын
@@Mari_Izu ehh its only 5 years, wont be noticable once both enter their 20's
@saltycandy8840
@saltycandy8840 3 жыл бұрын
Ahh finally someone talking about the Grand Supreme Kai’s fulfilling ending. Loved this discussion. It makes me think about what if Uub became an apprentice of or even be the next Supreme Kai himself. He actually fits into being G.O.D. but he also wouldn’t have the will to be one (unless a memory wipe perhaps)
@kirbsmeister608
@kirbsmeister608 3 жыл бұрын
Pan and Goku should have the relationship they have in GT, the key moments like the shadow dragons and when Goku first turns SSj4
@johnathanholmes1297
@johnathanholmes1297 3 жыл бұрын
They do.
@nobodysixty96
@nobodysixty96 3 жыл бұрын
yeah but I just *REALLY* hope they dont make her as stupidly annoying as her Gt variation Pan really ruined gt for me hopefully they make her a better character in super
@SamsarasArt
@SamsarasArt 3 жыл бұрын
Also goku being revealed as an alien of the saiyan race is a great retcon. Z and super exist because of it.
@borninthedark7915
@borninthedark7915 3 жыл бұрын
I feel this is a setup for Destroyer God Frieza, call me crazy. 🤷‍♂️
@SydneySutterKolinkBattler
@SydneySutterKolinkBattler 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, Goku being considerate toward Pan? Sorta gives me hope, in an odd way, that we'll get to see more of Goku being a better grandpa than dad.
@Naruku2121
@Naruku2121 3 жыл бұрын
@DP 91 Toriyama really isn't one to cave into fan demands, he may have towed the line with his editors, but some how I think Toriyama is satisfied with 'Super' Goku.
@miamiyeah
@miamiyeah 3 жыл бұрын
How can you say this when we don’t know how the story will use uub in the future?
@valentds
@valentds 3 жыл бұрын
pretty much end of Z basically the same. i just wish he doesn't became another gohan... we all know he's destinied to became the new jobber
@mikavanpolen8418
@mikavanpolen8418 3 жыл бұрын
I really think Piccolo would be the best choice for the next God of Destruction, would be interesting to see that.
@MasakoX
@MasakoX 3 жыл бұрын
The fandom and the writers REALLY want Vegeta to be that...but it doesn't sit well with his character.
@mikavanpolen8418
@mikavanpolen8418 3 жыл бұрын
@@MasakoX Yeah, I think it fits better with Piccolo's character. He has always been more the serious, level-headed one. Plus, it'd be nice to see him close the gap between himself and Goku again. Would also be interesting to see how this changes his dynamic with Gohan.
@schlemny6613
@schlemny6613 3 жыл бұрын
@@mikavanpolen8418 yeah with gohan becoming the angel. Just kidding of course
@spencertamv3930
@spencertamv3930 3 жыл бұрын
I think Frieza is the best Destruction candidate he already fits all the roles of being a destroyer and he’s already a madly powerful fighter who can be made even stronger with his potential. Plus it would be a good way to have the Z fighters properly challenge a destroyer. Cause Beerus seems to close to the earth to have any quarrel with the Z fighters.
@philip0544
@philip0544 3 жыл бұрын
@@spencertamv3930 But gods of destruction aren't supposed to be as unhinged as Frieza tends to be. They destroy to make room for new creations, where I think Frieza would destroy things exclusively for his own benefit.
@mathieuleader8601
@mathieuleader8601 3 жыл бұрын
what if Uub succeeds Beerus as a god of destruction
@dustinw115
@dustinw115 3 жыл бұрын
That would actually be interesting to see happen. I actually wanna see that happen, but I doubt that we will ever see them going that way, at least for now.
@Tektabyte
@Tektabyte 3 жыл бұрын
Uub of destruction
@UncleForHire
@UncleForHire 3 жыл бұрын
That's what I was thinking, that way beerus isn't immediately replaced or anything and his good heart will let him only do the necesary destruction on those which are evil allowing him to greatly improve the universe
@moro-og-739
@moro-og-739 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine Majin Buu absorb everyone in the arena except for Jiren and the final battle would be Jiren vs Majin Buu 😩
@sahilsingh2836
@sahilsingh2836 3 жыл бұрын
i think he’d still lose tbh
@spectraphantom9374
@spectraphantom9374 3 жыл бұрын
I’m 99% sure jiren would get stomped. Unless jiren did some training, he wouldn’t be able to take on that kind of power.
@RealB0ssMak3r
@RealB0ssMak3r 3 жыл бұрын
Absorbing many fighters at once, oh that's a major headache.
@BC21beats
@BC21beats 3 жыл бұрын
Check out salad saiyan what if super buy turned good
@lazyproductions8005
@lazyproductions8005 3 жыл бұрын
I doubt Buu even knows how to absorb people at that point, though it might have been used in GT, I can’t remember...
@victorcippitelli2242
@victorcippitelli2242 3 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you in all the argument you made in the video, it was a great idea this retcon !
@Rocket-wn9kc
@Rocket-wn9kc 3 жыл бұрын
Who ever is behind the jokes in dragon ball super needs more comedy training
@jourdansarpy4935
@jourdansarpy4935 3 жыл бұрын
This is the same level of retcon as King Cold. Frieza was touted as THE emperor of the universe for most of early Z. Then we realize that he hadn’t even been in power for more than 30 years (give or take) at the tome of his death and that he had a father who was pretty much as frightening as him and that he comes from a race of beings that can potentially be that way. It really change the whole lore of universe 7 imo. The nice thing about this retcon though, is that instead of changing the past, it changes the future. This feels more like creating a new timeline than it does changing an old one. Same impact as king cold but it only gives us more to work with. I love it.
@idramaking7852
@idramaking7852 3 жыл бұрын
Love the channel
@ahappyjojofan6564
@ahappyjojofan6564 3 жыл бұрын
After the Granola Arc We have to be at the end of Z
@lazyproductions8005
@lazyproductions8005 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like they could potentially put in an arc or two, considering at this point, I don’t know how they could fully lead into EoZ, but you never know.
@AwkwardPain
@AwkwardPain 3 жыл бұрын
I was hoping that the Moro arc was going to lead to the end of Z. -_-' would have been a great transition, imo. It feels like they have been milking this between time (Buu and end of Z) for way too long and it's time to move on, already.
@valentds
@valentds 3 жыл бұрын
@@AwkwardPain they failed with the sequel (GT) now the prequel will never end
@swordstaker
@swordstaker 3 жыл бұрын
I’m believing more and more we’ll see the End of Z, just for it to continue under Toyotaro and just completely get rid of GT
@erikreyes42
@erikreyes42 3 жыл бұрын
Damn dawg I feel like you kind of dragged this out and rambled half of the time just to tell us the retcon...
@kpoprules1103
@kpoprules1103 3 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU
@kpoprules1103
@kpoprules1103 3 жыл бұрын
He takes forever
@ia285
@ia285 3 жыл бұрын
6:05 'charctet of color'- I get what you mean but technically all Saiyans are a shade of yellow since it's clear that Saiyans have a more 'east asian' look to them.
@Timmothy_plays
@Timmothy_plays 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly with Super, they have improved on the potential of Pan and Uub sooooo much! I personally think that Pan might have the same or near the same level of potential as Broly.
@ihavenonamestilldonthaveon8970
@ihavenonamestilldonthaveon8970 3 жыл бұрын
I hope they change the end of Z, cause i don't want the exact same thing again. Like Beerus and Whis maybe being there, Bulma still being young because she's selfish and likes to waste Dragon Ball wishes on young age, Uub being a lot stronger in the fight because God Ki, stuff like that.
@Stratilex
@Stratilex 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine if Uub eventually learns ultra instinct and his eyes look like Kid Buu's
@Dark_Tale
@Dark_Tale 3 жыл бұрын
All the more reason I really want them to have a show that replaces GT and actually allows Uub to become the incredible fighter we all want him to be.
@AlphaProto
@AlphaProto 3 жыл бұрын
In Neko Majin Z is shown that UUb and Pan both know Z. So I think they all trained with each other with Goku as their master.
@Konstant
@Konstant 3 жыл бұрын
Uub having God Ki explains why Kid buu was even able to push back Gokus Genki Dama in the first place. The consistency is crazy
@fangiscool1
@fangiscool1 3 жыл бұрын
why?
@Konstant
@Konstant 3 жыл бұрын
@@fangiscool1 remember what happened when Goku told Gohan to bounce it back to Vegeta when Krillin missed the shot.he said evil can’t bounce it back. Kid Buu stopped it and bounced it right back. Neither Vegeta or Freiza was capable of doing it
@fangiscool1
@fangiscool1 3 жыл бұрын
@@Konstant that was just bad dubbing from way back when. You can deflect it like any other blast
@Mari_Izu
@Mari_Izu 3 жыл бұрын
@@fangiscool1 It's in the original too.
@nachomolaolivera7580
@nachomolaolivera7580 3 жыл бұрын
The heck you mean, anyone can push it. Freezer was able to do so for a few seconds until he was overpowered. Kid Buu was just doing the same as Freezer without being overpowered... Until Goku got the Senzu bean wish. In which case he got massively overpowered.
@dominiqueodom3099
@dominiqueodom3099 3 жыл бұрын
Uub and Pan would make a great couple/Fighting partners. Something similar to Gohan and Videl-before the Spopovich if done right .
@mikemacmillan5925
@mikemacmillan5925 3 жыл бұрын
Uub and goku training at the end of z makes sense now.
@passarovoador6662
@passarovoador6662 3 жыл бұрын
Ever did.
@MsSaskue360
@MsSaskue360 3 жыл бұрын
Not in the original ending because it clear that in the original ending their first meeting was at the tournament where oob was compare to pure evil boo which will never be a match for goku from super no matter how strong he got
@passarovoador6662
@passarovoador6662 3 жыл бұрын
@@MsSaskue360 Well, Goku in his 12 years old Just have 10 of P.W If Uub already was born with potential to break SSJ3 Buu Saga Goku And already give Goku post 10 years training trouble, easy make sense
@a.jthomas6132
@a.jthomas6132 3 жыл бұрын
If Pan does come along to visit her grandfather, she and Uub would make a great training partners (and possibly lovers if grown).
@BraveSekera
@BraveSekera 3 жыл бұрын
This is the earliest I've ever been to any of your videos tbh
@waterliveson
@waterliveson 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@AzraelAsItGetsVtuber
@AzraelAsItGetsVtuber 3 жыл бұрын
As someone who has never seen Super and only knows the events of the Buu Saga because of the video games, I was completely lost.
@75JUNAKI
@75JUNAKI 3 жыл бұрын
I wanna ask something......what’s so special about God Ki and the god forms if character like Hit, Jiren and Broly and even Freeza can surpassed them?
@andrebryant5081
@andrebryant5081 3 жыл бұрын
Just new color to sell toys
@75JUNAKI
@75JUNAKI 3 жыл бұрын
@@andrebryant5081 Perfectly said
@jeffreybogard2713
@jeffreybogard2713 3 жыл бұрын
The idea of Uub having god ki perfectly explains WHY being the reincarnation of Buu is so important, and may offer another reason why he was reincarnated on Earth. It's obviously not stated outright, but what if Yemma put him there because he knew Goku and Vegeta also had god ki? What if he couldn't decouple the god ki from Buu's soul? It's interesting to think about. I think the revelation that Uub has god ki is an excellent way to explain his presence and potential.
@TaeSunWoo
@TaeSunWoo 3 жыл бұрын
So he was using god ki in GT. So that explains why he was able to half way keep up
@dabear5641
@dabear5641 3 жыл бұрын
Seeing Uub legit gave me nostalgia tears when I read it.
@alqu6375
@alqu6375 3 жыл бұрын
Masako, you keep saying "Beerus told Frezia to destroy planet Vegeta" but he only *aloud* planet Vegeta destruction.
@JimmyU
@JimmyU 3 жыл бұрын
Broli is hands down the best retcon in DragonBall
@RtistiqSkubie
@RtistiqSkubie 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you live in opposite universe.
@Staplegun
@Staplegun 3 жыл бұрын
Ayyy let's goooo!
@pralayajin-woo2700
@pralayajin-woo2700 3 жыл бұрын
Was Goku leaving to train Uub that bad, I wouldn’t want to be around chichi, and he can teleport to see Pan whenever, as well as his kids are all full grown adults, that can fly far faster than light. Also Uub lives in a place with a small amounting food, and water, does anyone see Goku lasting in a place, where his lunch is enough to feed the entire village for a week. He probably just spent a lot of time at the hyperbolic time chamber, like gt shown us, his family can already go there whenever, so it works.
@mittensfastpaw
@mittensfastpaw 3 жыл бұрын
My other comment wasn't to dismiss you but rather just... I think you are putting more care into it than they did. Your love of the series is so genuine and you want it to flesh itself out. Be what it should and can be. Instead of.. well what the creator often does these days.
@WilliamTheUnkownShoutout
@WilliamTheUnkownShoutout 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome😀.
@niccodirenzi4126
@niccodirenzi4126 3 жыл бұрын
Uub. 😳 oh man , oh man. Imagine Uub with some training 🔥
@allaroundlazy2845
@allaroundlazy2845 3 жыл бұрын
On the whole remembering point: MasakoX isnt even wrong. Hell, The baseball episode in Super made a joke but it's kinda proven that not even Gohan remembers everything completely from a kid. When Yamcha was in his Classic Post, Gohan got a sense of bitterness about it while Krillin and Piccolo were like "Yuuuup....just like old, messed up times." Poor guy probably remembers the worst of many battles, but not all the small ones or chased ones until someone jogs his memory.
@Nuigi12
@Nuigi12 3 жыл бұрын
People really downplay how much potiential God ki Uub could have for the future
@yam9195
@yam9195 3 жыл бұрын
MasakoX how's Episode 7 of R&R? Also have you ever played Sonic The Hedgehog before?
@dan_loup
@dan_loup 3 жыл бұрын
Buu is a perfectly balanced fighter with no exploits
@dorianjohnson7046
@dorianjohnson7046 3 жыл бұрын
Buu can train Uub. Remember he got a lot better but we never really saw his max strength.
@Lupinemancer87
@Lupinemancer87 3 жыл бұрын
While I generally hate retcons, if they correct and improve on something, I'm fine with them.
@Arkaeuss
@Arkaeuss 3 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah I always loved Uub and I've been so excited for him to play a role in Super
@frankn254
@frankn254 3 жыл бұрын
I was about say, "For the better? Yes, please see GT" and then you mention GT. Nice.
@Krokodilius
@Krokodilius 3 жыл бұрын
i wonder who's tranformation got owned faster: cell's middle form or majuub.
@brandondaniel2846
@brandondaniel2846 3 жыл бұрын
Whew. Toyotaro must’ve watched this video and said “oh yea?” At about the 10:07 mark
@AhmedHussain-ju6xd
@AhmedHussain-ju6xd 3 жыл бұрын
Seeing uub here is awesome,he is one of my favourite characters,hopefully he would not be sidelined.
@Paxchi
@Paxchi 3 жыл бұрын
6:00 Aren't the vast majority of Dragon Ball characters already "characters of color", ie "not Caucasian/white"? Gohan, Chichi, Master Roshi, Krillin, Tenshinhan, Chaotuz, Yamcha, Yajirobe, they're all some flavor of Asian. And given his origin, Goku (and thus Vegita) likely passes for Asian as well. DBZ Earth has shown a racial diversity consistent with our own Earth, so Bulma, Dr. Briefs, Android 18, Android 17 and Mr. Satan are likely meant to be white/Caucasian, but they're technically in the minority. I do agree that it's good to get some more ethnic diversity with Uub, as well as giving us a human who could potentially be a match for the more powerful DB characters. I just think that "character/person of color" is a very Western-centric term that is meaningless on a global scale. There about as many black people as white people in the world, and many more Asian or Middle Eastern people than either.
@Cklert
@Cklert 3 жыл бұрын
Consistent with our own world? Bruh, the DBZ Earth literally has a dog as their King.
@that_dude_over_there
@that_dude_over_there 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone: wow look at Uub being built up as a character! Me: does this mean GT is slowly becoming cannon
@greedex89
@greedex89 3 жыл бұрын
NO!!
@stickboianimations2273
@stickboianimations2273 3 жыл бұрын
stop mentioning gt you nugget
@Mari_Izu
@Mari_Izu 3 жыл бұрын
Cannon as it shoots cannon balls?
@RtistiqSkubie
@RtistiqSkubie 3 жыл бұрын
@@greedex89 why?
@greedex89
@greedex89 3 жыл бұрын
@@RtistiqSkubie Uub being a character means nothing to making GT Canon.
@eduardorodriguez-gk2io
@eduardorodriguez-gk2io 3 жыл бұрын
I had a question in my head that I would like to debate and it doesnt have anything to do with the video but, What if Goku didn't like fighting at all?
@downingj8288
@downingj8288 3 жыл бұрын
I am trying to avoid all Moro stories because I don’t want to spoil it
@XJSPlays02
@XJSPlays02 3 жыл бұрын
If Your Just Reading The Moro Arc Then Don't Watch KZbin Videos About Moro
@downingj8288
@downingj8288 3 жыл бұрын
@@XJSPlays02 well I’m not even reading it. I’m waiting for super to come back (I just enjoy these videos too much)
@XJSPlays02
@XJSPlays02 3 жыл бұрын
@@downingj8288 Dude Super IS not Coming For A While Just Read The Manga To Avoid Being Spoiled
@brolytriplethreat
@brolytriplethreat 3 жыл бұрын
@@XJSPlays02 do we know if it is coming back at all? I certainly hope so, but it's been...a while
@Dricon1997
@Dricon1997 3 жыл бұрын
Did you do a what-if with Buu in the universe tournament arc?
@SamsarasArt
@SamsarasArt 3 жыл бұрын
I like how the ending of the Moro arc improved the end of z
@Sailor11Sedna
@Sailor11Sedna 3 жыл бұрын
Goku and Piccolo being aliens was a retcon. Been thinking up an alternate GT era with a different main character. It's not Goku, or Bulla, or Pan, or even Vegeta, but here's Bulla story: Bulla was often up to mischief, like the time she hacked West City's water reclamation department and demanded to be declared mayor. She's incorrigible. Vegeta would have disciplined her more if she had shown any signs of strength, but since brains were her thing, Vegeta left her in Bulma's care more often. While discussing her with MC, MC then asks if Bulla was born with a tail. Vegeta assumed Whis took the courtesy of removing it. MC has a different explanation, but doesn't want to say it because Vegeta won't like it. What if she has NO Saiyan DNA? While the literal sparks are flying, Bulla bursts in with her particle accelerator ray and insists she's Vegeta's daughter. She soaked his toothbrush and sequenced him when she was six. She had tried setting the gravity chamber to 2G multiple times and hadn't gotten stronger, and had even tried asking Shenron, who claimed that a more powerful being than him was blocking her wish to get her Saiyan power. MC, feeling guilty, suggests they ask Baba, who successfully finds the problem. Whis intervened. There's more, if you want it.
@babyfreiza8061
@babyfreiza8061 3 жыл бұрын
So ,when Uub fuses with Buu, do you think Buu and Gand Suprime Kai will will live in his head like Piccolo, Nail and Kami?
@littleguystar
@littleguystar 3 жыл бұрын
I mean it was bound to happen We have Mastered Ultra Instinct Goku training kid Uub at End Of Z due to Super so buffs are needed
@raffertyngulube262
@raffertyngulube262 3 жыл бұрын
Now I’ll enjoy the video
@VaeVictus17
@VaeVictus17 3 жыл бұрын
But MasakoX: Goku has an unearned buff too
@alejandrokaplan7243
@alejandrokaplan7243 3 жыл бұрын
First time I think you could say retcon and use it in a good connotation
@lordbiscuitthetossable5352
@lordbiscuitthetossable5352 3 жыл бұрын
I also think in regards to Uub was that Goku knew exactly where he was the entire time and had been waiting for him to turn up the moment he made that wish. Why? Because he already knew precisely what he could do from their battle and that if Uub awakened that potential? He would be a great rival. I also think it hawkens back to the beginning of the series when Grandpa Gohan had taken him up as a complete stranger. Now Goku was simply doing what Gohan had done by adopting. A slight nod to the beginning. I do really like what’s going on however.
@MoojinBoi
@MoojinBoi 3 жыл бұрын
with goku on the path of the angels and vegeta potentially going the path of the GoDs, it's time for uub to take over their role as savior of earth
@MrRichard2467
@MrRichard2467 3 жыл бұрын
After.they let us down with "gohan". I have no faith
@matthunterman1
@matthunterman1 3 жыл бұрын
I like uubs ending in dragon ball z Kai. It was actually my favorite anime ending
@professorhaystacks6606
@professorhaystacks6606 3 жыл бұрын
Potential missed point. Uub having divine ki leaves open a possible additional motive. God ki can be volatile, and it's possible that Uub could one day unleash it without meaning to, causing untold destruction. Goku is then the only one qualified to train him so that doesn't happen. Mind you that wouldn't be Goku's motivation, but it would (for instance) keep Beerus from destroying him to prevent the wild card factor running around. Could also explain why Whis and Beerus aren't around: They don't want to accidentally set off the tyke timebomb. Mind you god ki has so far only been dangerous to the user so this doesn't necessarily hold up: it's just a thought to a way it could be taken.
@GerardTeylan
@GerardTeylan 3 жыл бұрын
I think they are gonna make Uub the next supreme kai
@Reartwig
@Reartwig 3 жыл бұрын
the entire dragon ball super takes place in the 10 years after fighting Buu before the end of Z. Uub just got introduced in Super. After Super, the tournament at the end of z takes place, where Trunkz, Goten and Uub are releatively grown
@n1hondude
@n1hondude 3 жыл бұрын
I liked the retcon, not much changed. If anything it added more information to make sense. Maybe this is just a pet peeve but I want to know more of the Kais, what happened to the other positions?! I'm happy TOyotaro brought back the Dai Kaioshin since he's gone, does that mean that "Shin" is the newest Dai Kaioshin or is he still the Eastern Kaioshin?! Those are things about the world I would love to know. I did love all the call backs Toyotaro made, he's a big Dragon Ball fan. The Zarbon species, the Magetta species, the bear thing possibly being Botamo's species, the hint that maybe Ginyu learned the change technique in Yardrat.... redeeming Yamcha?! WOW!!
@bicokun
@bicokun 3 жыл бұрын
I like the potential it reveals, for sure. Seems like Uub could unlock god ki as a human and maybe have his own transformation of some sort. Perhaps he could even become a Kai, himself? But, for sure, it would be awesome to see him possibly get UI or something in the future if they end up going past the End of Z mini-arc again.
@anthonylong9067
@anthonylong9067 3 жыл бұрын
I imagine one day, Uub will have some sort of rivalry with Cabba
@Eric-py8yy
@Eric-py8yy 2 жыл бұрын
It's a great idea, Goku disciple vs Vegeta disciple
@genkaiba15
@genkaiba15 3 жыл бұрын
Only retcon that might be as good that I can think of is Dr. Gero. Cell is a favorite villain for myself and many others, and Dr. Gero being from the Red Ribbon army and therefore having a vendetta against Goku & co. gives a good reason as to why he would make Cell at all, let alone who he decided to take genetic material from. That said, this Uub retcon is absolutely delicious, and if people said this is better than what I mentioned I wouldn't fault them. It's very enjoyable.
@lightningbug9564
@lightningbug9564 3 жыл бұрын
what if Bulma got her wish for a boy friend and got vegeta teleported to earth
@soulsurj4782
@soulsurj4782 3 жыл бұрын
Even though it makes no sense for Uub to have god ki at least Toyotaro is trying not to ignore the end of Z.
@caodesignworks2407
@caodesignworks2407 3 жыл бұрын
Now that you brought it up, I didn't care for Uub for the most part, but now I'd like to see him just go off and become a destroyer or something like that. Or just something in the world of gods and living out there. Though, I never bought his character from the beginning and really didn't care for the conclusion to the Buu arc. But really, it's just annoying to add more fighters when they barely, if ever, utilize the ones they already have, especially the kids, like Goten, Trunks, Pan, etc... Though, if nothing else, this is probably the best way to handle Uub's reintroduction to the story.
@FFnGV
@FFnGV 3 жыл бұрын
How could you not be hyped for the potential of Ultra Instinct Uub!!!
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