MASCHINE PLUS VS MPC LIVE 2 -FIVE REASON WHY I THINK IT IS BETTER

[@LiftedNoise]

I actually have video in mind titled "how the NOVATION CIRCUIT RHYTHM is BETTTER than the MPC!" LOL 😆

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

You going to start a fight man lol but do it it’s provocative. Get the people going lol.

[@marvinbennett8384]

Damn lifted noise I thought u was down with the mpc crew ? Wth

[@LiftedNoise]

@@marvinbennett8384 lol I was joking 🤣

[@mpclive5693]

MPC 4 LIFE

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

Let’s get it lol thanks for stopping through .

[@labandlegacy]

🤣🤣🤣🤣 That bike ramp though lmao! Great video bro. I try to tell people, those game changer features are tough to look over.

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

Lol thanks man

[@Eight-Bit-Hustler]

Great video… If something we’re to happen to my Live 2 (I’d buy another live 2!) just saying… 💯 😆 I Totally agree! Not to mention the speakers in the live 2 are definitely one less thing to carry around for (true) production in standalone as well!

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

Yeah I didn’t want to put that in there cause the maschine head don’t see that as a benefit they already trying to fight me in the comments lol. Thanks for watching.

[@Eight-Bit-Hustler]

@@THEKINGOCAESAR I mean if nothing else It’s definitely a quality of life benefit! I mean if the machine plus is trying to compete as a standalone unit not only is it gonna need a power outlet but they gonna need to hear it!? 😂 (I know… I can already hear em gonna say… “oh but my headphones this and that etc…” Ok… Yeah yeah we hear y’all! (they just salty though IMO!) 😂

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

@@Eight-Bit-Hustler yes they are that’s why I made the thumbnail the way I did I wanted it to be provocative lol. Hey real talk tho that speaker is a real game changer I thought it was a gimmick at first until I heard them and then thought about it. They really did a great job with the speakers.

[@Eight-Bit-Hustler]

@@THEKINGOCAESAR Hahaha! I swear I said the same shit about it being a gimmick myself when the news first leaked about it… and even rolled my eyes! 😂 but it’s legit! it’s not gonna rock the house or anything but it’s perfect for those couch sessions and collaborating with people whenever I’m out… its awesome for a standalone reference monitor IMO! it’s definitely no fisher price speaker!

[@GhettoStyles]

Totally agreed

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

I know you agree you probably had both at one time too lol how you been.

[@GhettoStyles]

@@THEKINGOCAESAR I’m good. I think Maschine+ is good but not as good as the MPC Live/Live 2 if we are just going on the strength of STANDALONE.

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

@@GhettoStyles that’s what I’m trying to say lol but people going to fight me on it lol

[@GhettoStyles]

@@THEKINGOCAESAR 😂😂😂 it’s true though. Maschine is really good but if we are just talking standalone then it’s Vegeta and the Live /Live 2 is Goku… sure it can use SD cards but so can the Live/Live 2 and as you said it has a drive bay… sure it’s standalone, but the Live/Live 2 doesn’t require a plug… The Maschine+ will get to the standalone super bowl but it won’t win the ring…

[@GrayGhostDog1]

I have to agree with you on this one... I like my present workflow and the MPC Live 2 has become my go-to instrument. I had the Live, but quickly upgraded to the Live 2 for the speaker so that I literally do not need to carry anything else when I take it outside with me. Installed a terabyte SSD, loaded some sounds, and I'm good. I thought the speaker was a bit of a gimmick, but the speaker sounded better than I was expecting! Only NI stuff I use today is Komplete 13 via Ableton Live, but I get a different feel/vibe when I work on the Live 2. Akai was able to retain some of that "MPC DNA" within these modern versions and that's why I think it's better than Maschine right now.

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

I def feel that. I’m glad maschine exist tho because with out it I don’t think 2.10 would have been as good as it was with out it. But mpc is def better.

[@GrayGhostDog1]

@@THEKINGOCAESAR Same here... I've had the original Maschine, but it felt like it was just a software/controller emulation of a production workstation. You were tethered to a laptop or desktop. Akai followed suit, but decided that standalone should be an important feature.with the latest iterations and I think it paid off. I'm not surprised that the Maschine + has standalone feature and that's a good thing.

[@dandas1000]

I agree. But I am using the 'Force' more and more. What 'Force' lacks from MPC Live 2 is the battery, and the MPC software. Otherwise Force really rocks. I learned the basics of MPC on the Live 1, then moved onto the 'Force'. I still use MPC studio on my desktop to autosample. Export it for the Force.

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

thats dope. I do think that the force is dope I just rather use the mpc. I do wish mpc had the arranger mode tho.

[@TeraGreene1]

6:25 2nd comment: WTF?! 🤯 Auto Sampler just changed everything 😆 WOAH. Thanks for your video!

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

Your welcome I’m really glad you liked it!

[@GuitarsAndSynths]

Agree and MPC Live II can sequence analog and modular gear via CV outputs the Maschine+ cannot. Game changer. Battery powered all in one beat making monster.

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

We’ll said. It is a monster foreal. Thanks for stopping thru.

[@BDAILEY702]

I’m deciding to make a purchase between the two of these drum machines. I’ve used machines for 10 years and I’m more disappointed in the price range of the machine plus and the fact that it’s not truly standalone because truly standalone means it doesn’t need a power supply, which is why I’m leaning towards getting the MPC live 2 Now with all that being said what I’m having difficulties with is trying to decide if I want the MPC live 2 because of the workflow you know how long is it gonna take me to learn how to use it how to make a beat versus something I already know like machine

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

No doubt you are going to be crazy fast on machine. You already know it, but even tho there is a learning curve to the mpc if you make beats you will be able to catch on fast. Also there are so many videos that explain step by step how to do what ever you need to do. Hope this helps.

[@leogolive]

Ol’ boy ate that ramp🤣

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

Yes he did. He wasn’t ready lol

[@DeleswaProductions]

Nice video comparision, highlighting why in your opinion you beleive the MPC is better than the Maschine Plus, but I say nether is better than the other. I'm a Toraiz SP-16 user mostly among other standalone gear that I own, including the MPC One and have also owned the Native Instruments Micro in the past. Trust me...I get it. At the end of the day...we all have our personal preferences and bias of what gear we love most and think is the best, but truth be told...it is really an emotional reaction among the community that helps to generate competition and videos like this, translating to sales for the companies that do not necessarily put money back in our pockets. I'll say it today as I have many times before...loud and clear above all the hyped up commercials and baised reviews, it is not so much the gear as it is the imagination, talent, skill, and creativity of the beatmaker /producer behind it that makes the gear great. And feature laden gear does not automatically elevate it to a higher level of greatness or translate in production terms to a better music, than gear with less features. I have personally seen workflow and production on the MPCx that was hard to watch...downright embarrassing and it was not just me that recognized this. Not so much because of the machine, but more so because either the user was having a bad day or maybe just had not spent enough time learning the bread and butter necessary to make a decent beat on it. It could have also been the pressure of those watching on KZbin or simply not preparing adequately for filming the video. Whatever the case, the perception was that the MPCx was not all that, but it wasn't about the machine not bringing that shine...it was due to the performance or "lack of" from the producer. It is also well known among the beatmaking community that some simply thrive in limitations and workarounds, which actually help the user approach the production in a abstract, or more creative way with surprising results. Consider the original MPC's and the SP1200 from back in the day and how limited they were compared to what we are spoiled with today. And the fact that those old units have a solid place in hip hop history, while still triving today is all that needs to be said about that. So please express yourself and stand your ground for what you like and love concerning beat machines and standalones, but also realize that the greatness associated with this gear really comes from the community of talented beatmakers/producers who find their connection with that gear....feature laden or not.

[@IMakeBeats]

Wow 😳 Deleswa you said it all!!👊🏾🔥🔊

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

Yeah that was a lot bro but very great points. At the end of my video tho I let people know that these are just tools and they are only as great as the people using them.

[@mr.b614]

Awesome view.💯💯

[@moekababeats661]

Great content Sir I'm always learning something new from your videos keep them coming. Peace

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

Thanks man I’m glad I’m doing something right.

[@johndillon92]

I wanted the Maschine, but the price was too steep. I also like the portability and speaker on the MPC Live 2. This is my first Beat making device and I'm very pleased with my purchase.

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

I’m so happy to hear that bro

[@g.o.9513]

Heads up: Segment the video. I think it's called time stamps. So we can click on the 5 reasons within the video overview bar.

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

That’s something I been wanting to implement I will start doing that.

[@producer21207]

Akai Force all day long 4 me.Great Video.

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

Thanks man appreciate it. I’m jealous of you force users. You guys already have linear arrangement. I want that so bad on my mpc.

[@producer21207]

@@THEKINGOCAESAR I slept on the Force when it came out.The Force is the best production tool I ever used and I have been producing over 35 years.

[@mikevenus4117]

Machine plus has far better plug-ins then the Akai lineup(Mpc/Force)! I have both the Mpc Live2 and the Force. I’m not going to buy the Machine plus because I got too many samplers. Don’t want to spend time learning a new device and the price is too much for my budget. Good video!

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

Thing is that MPC is catching up and it isn’t having the problems maschine is having when loading plugins. Mpc has two gigs of ram and handles it’s plugins better than machine plus

[@actionrag1]

I have Both and for me the MPC is a better device for a stand alone product and that's the key difference If you have a Maschine you will need to interact with the computer for Editing, as mentioned in this video the touch screen is the killer feature, using the note editor on the Maschine is a complete joke and you will instantly grab the mouse to do it on the computer. Workflow faster on the Maschine but cleaner on the MPC Both great but if you are looking to buy MPC is for pure stand alone DAW Maschine is a great midi controller

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

This is a great point thanks for commenting.

[@tempmode37]

I have mpcx and 2tb in the bottom but what do u do to back up ur sound Library just in case your get stolen broken or has to be wiped clean?? is. "ONEDRIVE" good for that?

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

One drive is good or what I do is buy an external hard drive or usb drive. The hard drive is what I would recommend. Back your stuff up on there and put it some where safe.

[@ericwells7209]

I have both and you have some good points but because I started with Maschine my workflow is quicker but now that I have the retro live 2 I struggle but it’s all good because I want to learn it so to me they both are good for making beats, songs they are just different groove boxes.

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

Yeah I def feel once you learn the love 2 better you will see that it’s better but like I said to many maschine users. I’m not trying to shit on maschine I really think it’s 2nd on the list I just wish the price was lower. If it was I would cop one myself. Workflow is everything any I always tell people to use the thing that is going to keep you creating. If that’s maschine more power too you. I just like the competition because it is great for us the consumer you know what I mean.

[@ericwells7209]

@@THEKINGOCAESAR it’s all good and I understand, salute to you and yeah I’m learning it for real.

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

@@ericwells7209 that’s dope man as long as you creating that’s all that matters at the end of the day have a good one.

[@ericwells7209]

@@THEKINGOCAESAR doing the best I can i am a dj by trade but just love music and beats.

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

@@ericwells7209 that’s what’s up I always thought dj was harder than producing man I tried it before.

[@nic3939]

I've used a M+ since pre-ordering it and I thought this was a great video. (Haven't touched the new MPCs). You have a lot of good points! (I can't 100% agree with the battery, because it wouldn't work with the design of the M+ and I feel like it's more marketed on people who just want to produce without a computer , perform etc - not go portable. Even though I sometimes wish it had a battery..)

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

Hey the maschine plus is still a beast. If you are good with it stick with it. I just don’t think it’s better than the mpc but it’s about your workflow and what works best for you. You can make the hardest stuff on anything if you master it. So keep creating and having fun with it.

[@centr0]

That auto sampler?! Wow. Thanks for showing that. Switched from Maschine to MPC (first one ever) and haven’t looked back.

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

Welcome to the mpc gang bro glad I was able to help

[@bboymac84]

It has a speaker built in. MPC live 2 is ready to go! No extra set up. Just turn it on a hit pads

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

Def the best mpc they have for all around use

[@vergellim7361]

Ive got the mpc one and returned it to get the mpc live 2. Its really good but Im still learning the workflow since I used to have maschine mk3 and mikro workflow which nore faster to me. But overall the standalone is the reason why im sticking to it the speakers and connectivity are awesome.

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

Yes bro the live is one of the best machines made in my opinion.

[@TeraGreene1]

5:11 seriously though. I already have MPC LiVE and don't care about Maschine, but something told me I should watch this video... just in case. The Auto Sampler?! That's going to level up my workflow even more! Thank you! First time watching :-)

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

Your welcome. I have two more videos on my channel that explain how to auto sample your external synths and your vst as well check those out if you need more detail on how to do it.

[@Eight-Bit-Hustler]

Also not to mention if you got an iPhone or iPad you can even autosample those plugins into your MP for a great portable experience! And the plugins on iOS aren’t toys they’re some serious nice sounds and cheap to boot!

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

@@Eight-Bit-Hustler I’ve never done a video on this I think I might now tho great point.

[@Eight-Bit-Hustler]

@@THEKINGOCAESAR Word. The best part is the price point and portability! Also with the Bluetooth Abletonlink you can literally control your MPC wirelessly although I’m not certain if autosample can be done through Bluetooth MIDI considering Some sort of cord would be needed for the sound in and out but it’s still amazing using my iPad with an MPK mini 3 with an IOS plugin or DAW and syncing it across the room to my MPCs (clock) also using an iPad as an effects processor with the MPC is awesome especially with something like IK multimedia’s MixBox, which is a complete suite of over 70+ effects plugins that can be setup through the MPCs sends and returns and later if I wanna sequence my songs I can use Cubasis that’s currently on sale for $25 (half off!) so that covers my synths effects and even a DAW all for low! Glad I found your channel man.. I think you and IamSight recently collaborated right!?

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

@@Eight-Bit-Hustler that’s all dope stuff man ima have to try it. Yeah I am sight is a buddy man people have mixed feeling about him but I talk to him a lot he is a great guy and he is always trying to provide value. Yeah we collabed and we are doing a podcast together.

[@cuttatrack]

Coming from Maschine to the mpc one, the workflow felt too foreign, sold the one and went back to maschine with a laptop... yes the vsts and Maschine software is better... but damn I missed those MPC pads and the in the box workflow... now I’m back to Mpc, live 2 and love the pads and stand-alone workflow! Every time I pick up the Live 2 now I learn something new and find it inspiring. Glad I switched sides and the Mpc knocks a lil better sound wise and makes me want to continue learning and grow more.

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

I be telling maschine user that I see a lot of people trying it but switch back to the live 2 not saying maschine is trash but it just not better specially for the price thanks for watching.

[@cuttatrack]

@Heffe Agreed, I do miss the sounds from maschine/komplete/vsts for melodies. I can still use maschine when I want but learning MPC and the way it knocks on drums and glues together a lil better plus standalone is worth the time I’m putting into it. Song mode, track mutes and sampling is what I’m working on progressing at now. Jam on brotha!

[@primitivepatterns]

how long would you say it takes for the MPC Live to start up? Saw that you cut the clip and i’m curious if it takes a while

[@_thevaporz]

30 seconds

[@primitivepatterns]

@@_thevaporz thank you

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

Yeah about 30 sec lol my video was already long so I was trying to cut everything that didn’t make sense lol. I was shooting for a 10 min video didn’t work out for me.

[@primitivepatterns]

@@THEKINGOCAESAR glad it went over time lol- love yr vids and especially love listening to the longer form stuff where you have guests on and talk about random MPC and music stuff

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

@@primitivepatterns thanks man ima try to do more stuff like that in the future

[@marclemar]

What if I simply work better in Maschine l??!!? I mean we’re making music or comparing Stats?? Ain’t shit gone make you better but you!!! I’m super interested in MPC live 2 for EVERYTHING YOU STATED. But after trying the force after it got the major song more update I realized that I simply work better in Maschine. Ain’t one better than the other Maschine just works better for me. If I can get my hands on a live II I’ll try it tho

[@no1semach1ne]

I use both, and what you are saying is facts, If one works better for you then it just does!

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

I tell everybody all the time that always use what works better for you. These things are just tools. Workflow matter I was only trying to point out the things mpc did that the plus doesn’t do or have. And I’m not trying to shit on maschine I know my title was provocative lol but I think maschine is a solid 2nd place beat maker.

[@lazaruslaser]

I am getting a live 2 soon.. Cannot F$=$ing wait.. Thanks for the Much appreciated info

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

That’s what’s up bro glad to hear it. If you go through zounds.com use my affiliate link in the description because it helps the channel. I would appreciate it.

[@TheDavenport777]

the touch screen alone does it GANG WhatUp

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

What up man thanks for stopping through

[@ToyKeeper]

MPC is great. I'd even say it's probably the #2 best studio centerpiece... and #1 is also by the same company. As far as I can tell, the list is something like this... 1. Akai Force 2. Akai MPC 3. Deluge 4. Maschine+ 5. ... everything else. There aren't many options for a DAW in a box. The choice of MPC vs Force mostly comes down to whether people prefer to build songs from pattern chains or clips and a timeline. Either one is great; I just find clips to be more intuitive and convenient than patterns.

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

I def can respect this list I personally love the live but yeah I fill you.

[@lindasson]

I saw the thumbnail and the title of the video, and went straight to the comment section to see the reactions lol!!! You know I have both, and your points were valid and spot on as to why Akai has a monster, but as me and my personal experience and enjoyment, I really really love the Maschine Plus. Like you said, the gear is an extension of the talent of user, and I've seen people who rather stick with the SP-404A over both of them. It definitely comes down to personal choice and what works for you at the end of the day, and what sparks your creativity, and Maschine Plus is what doing it for me. Your content is getting better and better my brother, great job!!🙏🏾✊🏾💚

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

Bro I really appreciate that compliment. And I’m glad the maschine is helping you creatively. I still think it’s dope just not better than mpc but very capable to get shit done.

[@CDMESD]

This was a cool video. The MPC live is a dope, dope, and I mean dope groove-box. I felt like Alain burned it followers back in the day but today is a new day. I am in a machine plus music user. love machine plus. I do wish I had some of the features of the MPC live. But, and I do mean but, I happen to think that the machine plus looks better than the MPC line Ha ha ha. Just kidding but for real. Once again, this was a very good video and you brought up some very good points

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

Hey maschine is a sexy unit lol. But like I tell every one. Doesn’t matter what you have used what you have master it and you can make anything you want. They are only tools so keep doing your thing with the maschine plus.

[@leoopokat8235]

do y'all mpc get hot in top left corner? just asking the community

[@Eight-Bit-Hustler]

What do you mean? Like the actual hardware getting hot in the top left corner!? Cause Mines been on for a day and it’s a lil warm but nothing crazy… 🤔 do you have a lot plugged in to the USBs maybe? Cause it shouldn’t run hot like that. Hope you get it sorted out.

[@_thevaporz]

Yeah it gets warm. Same with the Force. Upper left corner that's why it's vented sides. Never had an issue crashing or overheating though.

[@Eight-Bit-Hustler]

@@_thevaporz makes sense, the main PC board is behind the pads (on the Live 2) I’m not sure about the force, do you use a kickstand with it? Cause that might let it breathe a bit better!

[@leoopokat8235]

yes it's warm my ac adapter is up to spec thanks for the info fam

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

Glad y’all answered cause I really never checked but I know I have left my mpc on for like two days before which I don’t recommend but no over heating problems over here.

[@Sarah2ill]

Great video!

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

Wow I knew I recognized your name but your a maschine user 🧐 lol. Your channel is dope thanks for stopping through.

[@Dmogul]

Lol 😂 I like that intro

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

Thanks my man how you doing

[@Dmogul]

@@THEKINGOCAESAR doing ok hoping just pushing hard on the content

[@valley_robot]

Mpc one is half the price , has more functionality,has a bigger screen that is touch screen, etc

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

Yeah I say the mpc one is better too but if I was going to even think about getting the maschine plus it would have to be the same price as the one.

[@absent_]

2 years later nothing changed.

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

I know right lol

[@Diddddu]

DUHHHHHH!!!!!!The f.cking Amp envelopes.How can i forget that.Thanks for the reminder bro.Yeah this takes things to another level i stop using this feature because they were sounding all mushy like the brass sounds and real instruments.They don't sound all synthy now.NI is going to have to put a lock on there sh.t lol.The MP be it's chameleon Raven sh.t now a days.Turning into any sound it gets next to.

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

Exactly!! if we want to sounds we going to get them lol thanks for the comment bro.

[@jerzboybeats]

In all fairness how long did it take Akai to come to this point. MPC’s have been around for years. It took Native Instruments to push Akai to this point. Akai was trying hard to keep up with Maschine software that they should have been working on their standalone. They always been standalone. And let’s not even talk price. When the MPC3000 first came out we couldn’t just couldn’t get it. Now I own both plus the Akai Force. They truly are awesome boxes. But then there is the (Standalone) other side. You have the FL faithfuls that can get a laptop and be (standalone) with life time updates. Oh and don’t sleep on Serato Studio. At the end of the day what ever makes you produce what you like is what matters. Let’s not even get into iPad production that’s another conversation.

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

All great points. I started from the daw so what your saying is completely right but when it comes to standalone I don’t think there is anything better than the mpc live 2 on the market right now. Hear me out. In order to run a daw and used multiple plugins with out an interface your going to need a solid computer for cpu and memory uses the interface helps with that but with out it unless your computer is semi powerful you are going to run into problems because vst in the game now look so great sound beautiful but take up made cpu lol. Now the next thing is ok getting your own sample and chopping them up of going through something like splice. I don’t know anything that can chop samples as good as mpc serato studios is great but I know first hand about chopping in fl, Logic Pro, and protools, it’s not fun. Now this is what I want you to think about. How much is it going to cost me for a good computer with a lot of space for sample, a good interface and dope plugins, maybe just a splice account. Vs just an mpc live 2 1 tb ssd drive and a splice account even tho you don’t need one. The computer probably going to be more with the plugins but even if it isn’t we haven’t even talked about the ability to interface with external gear. Synths turntables etc. mpcs are so capable to do any type of production on the go where the computer is limited unless your paying for thing that allow it to be more versatile. I know this was long but I hope I make sense it is early lol.

[@jerzboybeats]

@@THEKINGOCAESAR oh I agree with you. I’m just confused with Akai. You put the Hype Synth on the Force years before you put it on the MPC which is their flagship. The Force with a controller was more advance than the MPC until this most recent update. Which leaves me with this question. On the Forces next update which is still in Beta, how more advance will it be over the MPC this time. The Arranger mode already has linear recording. The Force inputs are similar to the X being able to have phantom power. Now as fas chopping Serato Sample gives you more slices than Serato Studio. There time stretching algorithms are way superior. The fact that you can pitch individual chops is sick. I can play chords with my chops, especially vocals. Before the computer days I used the MPC to sequence my midi racks and keys. I love my live2. If akai would update their software that would be great. I still believe it took Maschine to wake up Akai. Truth be told the Ren should have been the first Standalone but it took years for the MPCX to Grace us. As far as the computer you won’t be one tied to one thing. You can not only edit music but also videos as well as graphic designs. I have a 10.5 iPad Pro with BeatMaker3, and the sample chopping on it is phenomenal, Koala Sampler is another. For a while my iPad was my production tool and at times it still is. I love creating. Production is like cooking. It’s what works to get the job done for the individual. Like you said it’s all about opinions. I hated that I sold my MV8800. It was way before it’s time . Man I enjoyed this. I love the fact this is making music production companies step up and not sell us any old thing just for sales. 💪🏾👍🏾

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

@@jerzboybeats hey the last point you made is the most important point. All this competition Is making it better for us the consumer. I really believe that 2.10 for the mpc would not have been as good if it wasn’t for the maschine plus. But I’m will you like a lot of other mpc users. We should have gotten the stuff the force has first and I know a lot of user who are pissed off about that. But we are in an age we’re you can pretty much create what you want where ever inspiration strikes. The gear just determines how far you can go. But we are getting to the point of unlimited possibilities. It’s dope to think about.

[@jerzboybeats]

@@THEKINGOCAESAR man I got the force before the Live 2 all because the hype synth. I had to get the retro though. Something about MPC look. I hear there’s another update as well for the Live about see what that’s about.

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

@@jerzboybeats I haven’t heard anything but ima check on it.

[@damonmelendez1543]

Don’t forget about the fat the Mpc 2.10 is a daw

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

Word up 2.10 was dope. I fill like we wouldn’t have gotten that if it wasn’t for maschine plus tho they put some heat under akai. That’s good for us lol

[@es__music]

The screens on the moc makes me want to throw up. Way too much info on screen. NI really does know how to design.

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

@@es__music I don’t think it’s that bad and it keep you from menu searching all the time

[@Lofilegacybeats]

Maschine has autonsampler

[@CannedFunkMusic]

How can you make a comparison to something you know nothing about?

[@Purrrelll]

Both suck, OP-1 kicks arse.

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

What lol prove it. Thanks for stopping through tho foreal man have a good day.

[@Purrrelll]

@@THEKINGOCAESAR I am just kidding bro.

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

@@Purrrelll hey just watched a video on the op-1 it is pretty dope for how little it is still a mpc head tho lol.

[@Purrrelll]

@@THEKINGOCAESAR By the way, your argument will heat up here on youtube, you better get ready and good luck.✌️

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

@@Purrrelll I know that’s why I did it like that kinda click bait but I love the conversations that follow.

[@supa407]

Mashine sounds cheap to me for some reason. All the drums have this corny snap to them

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

really thats crazy. well the mpc s be banging lol.

[@vergellim7361]

I prefer the drums of Mpc because theyre solid. Buf for the synth and melody I like the maschine.

[@marclemar]

You’re not presenting fact you’re presenting what’s best for you my G!!! They all do the SAME SHIT!!

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

They do the same shit but the mpc does it better there is a lot of people who I personally talk to on KZbin who love mpcs but hate akai the company and tried it out and stayed with the mpc. I know this video is going to trigger some people but really bro it comes down to you if you are a speed demon on the maschine then it is better for you. I’m not saying the maschine is trash. Actually I thing it’s a close second and I’m glad they made it because it put more pressure on akai to be innovative. This last update we got was dope as fuck and I know it’s because the maschine plus. It’s good for the consumers. But all the things I said in this video was facts and are things that the maschine plus can not do.

[@marclemar]

@@THEKINGOCAESAR but who said it’s better? Opinions can never be fact that’s why they’re opinions. They both have advantages and disadvantages. What you may view as an advantage I may view as a disadvantage (such as the touchscreen) I like knobs (pause)! I literally sold my Maschine to go back to Akai and ended up selling the Force right back to the owner because he reached out asking if I would sell it back to him because he didn’t like the Whatever he bought as much as the Force. At that point I had sold my push 2 and Maschine MK3 and was happy to sell him his Force back because the workflow wasn’t for me. When it comes to workflow there is no better. When you listen to a song NOBODY is saying that beat is sick because it was made on a MPC live.. I’ve got 20+ yrs making beats and I started on a 2000xl and like I said All this shit is the same at this point it really comes down to whether or not it checks “your boxes” ain’t no better. Only thing that can be better is the music you make on what you’re best at. I say all that and I still want to try the Live II but not because it’s “better” I want the progressions & key detection in samples but idk if it’s worthwhile using if I don’t like the workflow.. (Where Maschine shines for me) But hey I respect the need for content my G!

[@supermcfly100]

mpc is so much better. you don't even need the midi controller.

[@THEKINGOCAESAR]

@@marclemar it really is personal opinion. I respect your point of view. Like I said tho the maschine plus would have been a home run to me if it was priced the same as the mpc one. I still think it’s dope.

[@marclemar]

@@supermcfly100 you don’t need one for Maschine either.