The reason why there is like no actual SQUAD replacement for Garrus is because they didn’t expect you to fail that bad.
@toomanydewgongs2 жыл бұрын
It blows my mind that Garrus is an optional party member in every game yet I can't imagine Mass Effect at all without him.
@YourCrazyDolphin2 жыл бұрын
Same goes for Tali.
@Farzlepot2 жыл бұрын
Well that, and he doesn't actually do anything.
@DraconimLt2 жыл бұрын
@@Farzlepot Calibrations!
@sagejosh2 жыл бұрын
@@toomanydewgongs you have to recruit garrus in ME2. its really weird Shepard still recognizes him... like "holy shit are you that totally random cop i snubbed 3 years ago?"
@Ikcatcher2 жыл бұрын
It’s kinda funny how Mass Effect 3 just kinda breaks apart if almost all of your squad mates are dead
@ty7382 жыл бұрын
Yeah, all that build up across 2 games just for the third to be full of replacements. It just feels... empty. I tried this once, having all of the replacement squadmates except for miranda, and I felt really dirty. After the playthrough, I took SEVERAL cold showers.
@juzoli2 жыл бұрын
You get what you deserve… :D
@Noschool1002 жыл бұрын
Ya, that's one thing that kind of makes me ehh about the choices. Honestly most of MEs choicest aren't really about different but equally engaging experiences they are more between a more satisfying experience or a lackluster one. The virmire survivor, and kind of killing wrex, and Mordin's death are kind of the only the ones that really feel like a fleshed out experience that don't feel like "the same events play out but just worse."
@juzoli2 жыл бұрын
@@Noschool100 Being lazy and losing many squad-mates is not really a major decision path though. I wouldn’t blame the developers for not putting too much efforts into these scenarios most people never see. The popular decisions (paragon and renegade paths) are worked out very well. What we see in this video is only about tying up loose ends without too much fuss, as these are rarely seen. It only looks strange of we intentionally play badly.
@Noschool1002 жыл бұрын
@@juzoli ya, I mean I get why put more effort into stuff people would see but the imbalance of content is more a trait of how they decided to handle choice. Ashley & kaiden is probable the the biggest equal choice we can really make but the consequences of that is they are basically dropped from me2 and 1/2 of me3 cause development is expensive. So the decision to really flesh out one side of outcomes makes sense financially and it works okay as I think the aspect that draws people to mass effect are characters and setting, but it does cause mass effect to be more of a math test than a choose your own adventure. if you do the correct stuff you get the good outcomes and leaves little reason to deviate from just doing everything and occasionally needing a reputation check to solve any problems.
@jomnix2 жыл бұрын
The Rannoch arc is incredibly emotionless if you have BOTH Legion and Tali dead.
@alonzorandolph17182 жыл бұрын
That's normally how it plays out for me.
@Sotka_ot_grudi2 жыл бұрын
@@alonzorandolph1718 Why not creating peace betweeb geth and quarians?
@alonzorandolph17182 жыл бұрын
@@Sotka_ot_grudi I'm the oddball that never recruited Legion and didn't care to keep Tali alive. She always dies in the second game for me even though logically she, being a tech wiz, shouldn't have had that much trouble with a door.
@trazyntheinfinite98952 жыл бұрын
@@alonzorandolph1718 you must understand, that door had a handle. And you know how icky these can be....
@mrlittleclone2 жыл бұрын
@@alonzorandolph1718 Bruh just do the loyalty missions in me2
@johnprice62712 жыл бұрын
Padok Wiks is the equivalent of that one friend who is into very strange things, but will take the fall for everyone.
@Torthrodhel2 жыл бұрын
Must be why I'm so fond of him, I think I'm that type myself lol.
@alliekuma42342 жыл бұрын
I loved him as much as Mordin and was just as sad when he passed
@seroccoprime27742 жыл бұрын
Padok is easily the coolest replacement NPC.
@astralFox2 жыл бұрын
While Mordin is like that awesome asexual who gives you medical advice out of respect for the health and safety for his friends. I love that contrast so much.
@Torthrodhel2 жыл бұрын
@@astralFox but he's probably not asexual tho. I think he's likely on the more promiscuous side given what we know. Definitely not into Shepard though. He cites "doctor-patient confidentiality a sacred trust" but I think he's letting her down easy with banter. Don't think the ol' "alien space opera" holds as much novelty for him as it does for hungry hungry Shepard, lol. On a side note how funny would it be if they made a new protagonist who yeah will save the galaxy and everything but aside from that just leans into the whole "bang aliens" stuff? Like isn't even coy about it. None of this one-person romance locking, I'm trying to experience the galaxy here! That'd be damn hilarious right?
@copilots31592 жыл бұрын
Dude, Shepard's reaction and unnatural stillness after oriana and her dad fall out the window is hilarious.
@Jarsia2 жыл бұрын
Ash "Shepard?(waves hand in front of his face) OK, who put the commander in a stasis field?"
@dianabarnett68862 жыл бұрын
Shepard has seen a lot of folks die at that point. Just a drop in the ocean.
@dive_bomb3r2 жыл бұрын
I can't take this "NOOO!!" seriously after watching Gamer Poop. It was just really hard before because it's so hammy, but now it's impossible.
@Jovian9992 жыл бұрын
@@dive_bomb3r I care about you -Ash- Miranda *DAMNIT*
@Jarsia2 жыл бұрын
@@dive_bomb3r Garrus "Are you ready to be a...woman" Shepard "NOOO!!!"
@amorria2 жыл бұрын
"Did you send Jacob into the vents at the end of ME2", I chocked on my tea
@Lord_Phoenix952 жыл бұрын
He also offers. How can you not!
@Norinia2 жыл бұрын
@@Lord_Phoenix95 Because everyone mourning his cheating ass is just as annoying as his flaunted cheating. I don’t care that it’s never canon anymore on my games. •NEVER FORGIVE• SOB “How long was I supposed to wait, Shepard?” HOW ABOUT TWO WEEKS BEFORE YOU PUT A BUN IN THAT CHEAP SHITTY OVEN??
@Lvl1.Sentry2 жыл бұрын
@@Norinia Yea, fuck Jacob. Worst Character AND worst Romance option in Mass Effect. Hell, he`s worse than even Ashley, Kaidan, AND Morinth. And it`s even worse how Jacob gets to live happily ever after whereas Shepard potential dies.
@monstermash59692 жыл бұрын
@@Norinia yeah when he cheated on my FemShep, I went back to ME2 just to get him killed. I did it by having him get carried away by a seeker swarm. He can join his dad in hell for all I care.
@torbbi10692 жыл бұрын
@@Norinia who exactly is mourning him? can you point me to them? i'm a big fan of jacob and also able to look past bioware's shitty, lackluster, stereotypical writing and i'd love to meet others who also have critical thinking skills :)
@Flufux2 жыл бұрын
It's good that Mordin's replacement Padok is the best substitute character in the game considering that Mordin himself is the most likely squadmate to die during the Suicide Mission.
@jojotheswede84442 жыл бұрын
he died for me :(
@Torthrodhel2 жыл бұрын
Yeah you have to be quite careful. I suppose with his attitude toward Kirrahe, it kinda makes sense that he's not so good at "holding the line"? Thinks it's all chest thumping, military bravado (his words). So when it comes to needing it... not the most survivable. Very good choice to send back with the crew, if everyone surviving is what you're aiming for. He can handle that. At the same time I can kinda understand the relative lack of effort put into Dagg, as it's actually quite difficult to get Grunt killed unless you just don't open his pod (which I'd also say is a very unlikely choice to make). Possible but requires some planning (my current Shep's an "Earth First" type so she's completely bonkers evil and wants all the aliens killed).
@nathanmaxtro12 жыл бұрын
Yup, the first time I played the Suicide Mission, Zaeed died because apparently he was a bad choice for squad leader; that loss I didn't care about. Then with the stand off scene Mordin was the only other death then I looked for a guide and reloaded the save.
@pauls4782 жыл бұрын
Yeah. That's why my Mordin always takes the rescued crewmates back to Normany. :)
@Torthrodhel2 жыл бұрын
@@nathanmaxtro1 Zaeed the reckless merc who usually works alone? Probably not a good squad leader, yeah. What surprised me more and hit me harder on my first playthrough was Garrus being a bad tech expert choice. He's always calibrating! But I should've remembered. He's always calibrating guns. Not doors.
@LenaVoices2 жыл бұрын
"In the interest of science, how do Krogan mate?" "Very clumsily!" Oh my goodness, I love Eve so much. One of my favorite characters, she's such a great character. She truly is the Krogan Queen 👑
@hellhound93622 жыл бұрын
Barakha I believe her name is, or something along them lines,
@LenaVoices2 жыл бұрын
@@hellhound9362 Bakara???? Idk I like calling her Eve. Short and Sweet
@hellhound93622 жыл бұрын
@@LenaVoices aye, eve is easy to say, but bakara is krogan, lol as wrex would rudely say 🤣
@LenaVoices2 жыл бұрын
@@hellhound9362 that's entirely fair. Wether she's Eve or Bakara, I love her and she is one of my favourite characters
@hellhound93622 жыл бұрын
@@LenaVoices may see more of her in the new mass effect depending whether she survived for you or not,
@Arijit_Das_2 жыл бұрын
The only advantage of Wreav is that he's too dumb to know the truth about the sabotage, which isn't that much to go for as most players would choose to cure the genophage.
@UMTongo2 жыл бұрын
And that you can convince mordin to not die trying to cure it
@carlsiouxfalls2 жыл бұрын
I'd bet more players are willing to sabotage it if Wreav is the leader, being a big jerk and planning a future war against the rest of Council space.
@dianabarnett68862 жыл бұрын
Alright. I'm doing it. I'm actually gonna do it this time. I'm gonna kill Wrex and Mordin. God help me.
@knixerino74632 жыл бұрын
@@dianabarnett6886 Actually if u kill Wrex and destroy the Cure in ME2 u dont have to kill Mordin in Me3 :)
@dianabarnett68862 жыл бұрын
@@knixerino7463 I'm going for tragedy here.
@magic713m2 жыл бұрын
I really like that both Padok and Mordin have very understandable reasons for curing the genophage. For Mordin, it's more of a personal drive to fix something he views as a mistake. For Padok, it is more of a general ethical issue of the Salarians interference with Korgan, that is still very believable and not forced.
@Youtube_is_Trash2 жыл бұрын
Nope, for Padok it's kink
@luske22 жыл бұрын
I actually didn't like Mordin a lot so I let him die in ME2 and my first ever ME3 playthrough was with Padok and I honestly quite liked him. It felt a bit weird that he got the big emotional sacrifice since I never got to know him all that well. Other than that he was a nice character. More sociable than Mordin for sure.
@brixan... Жыл бұрын
I feel like most people would support that... Undoing the infertility of an entire race especially after they defeated the Rachni... Very easy to land on that side
@facundomontivero2299 Жыл бұрын
@@luske2 How did you not like Mordin?
@yeahright87002 жыл бұрын
A major thing left out of the commentary on the Geth VI I'd say is the heartbreaking Shepard interactions with it, if Legion was recruited but died on the Suicide Mission (happened on my first playthrough). Shep numerous times will try to be buddy-buddy with the VI, and it just... rejects them every time. It's a very interesting dynamic with Shepard grappling with the imperfect resurrection of an old friend. "We fought the Collectors together! We were friends, Legion!" "And then we died." gets me every time.
@oldy4080Ай бұрын
"We are not Legion"
@ThrdSonofSparda2 жыл бұрын
As Wrex said about Wreav "That guy was a pain in the ass anyways." I'll take my trigger happy, shotgun wielding, illustrious leader Krogan any day. Wrex is always welcome on my ship.
@paolopesare35662 жыл бұрын
First time I played ME 3 I didn't import any save. When I found out he died on Virmire I was mad. Wreav is an asshole
@mencot892 жыл бұрын
i love wrex and cant imagine progressing the game without him. in all my playthroughs i always keep him and garrus
@jamesherb43842 жыл бұрын
@@paolopesare3566 the fact that the default is wrex dying says a lot about bioware, honestly. their default imports are always so miserable.
@balsasjekloca93082 жыл бұрын
@@jamesherb4384 that's their way of saying "You should have played the other games, you jackass"
@mwrench41852 жыл бұрын
In Mass Effect 1 Wrex tells you he kills civilians and robs cargo ships as a merc. He's a scumbag. Granted, Wreav is no better, like all krogans. Curing the genophage? lol Who would do that.
@TheWelshGeth2 жыл бұрын
Been playing ME for years and there's still stuff I don't know about. That's what's great about this channel teaching me new stuff.
@BigDanGaming2 жыл бұрын
Thanks dude! I appreciate that.
@timlamiam2 жыл бұрын
I just can't make the shitty wrong choices just to see what happens so thank god we have Big Dan to do it for us.
@thecousinbellic2 жыл бұрын
Just today, I replayed the ME3 ending and got a scene where they said 50% of Hammer landed. I have never gotten that scene before.
@nathanmaxtro12 жыл бұрын
@@timlamiam Serious, I can't imagine continuing a game where Garrus dies.
@juzoli2 жыл бұрын
@@timlamiam It took me 3-4 playthrough to be mentally prepared for the bad decisions. Then I did 2 such playthroughts. One speedrun with 0 sidequests and conversations. And one which was completionist, but all the bad choices (betray Wrex, bad choices on suicide mission, kill the real rachni but release the clone rachni, send Legion to Cerberus etc…). It’s also fun:) But now I have to went with another good playthrough.
@nathantower55652 жыл бұрын
4:25 "Homeboy gets ganked by a Cerberus trooper" Geez lol I never realized prangley is popped by just one trooper in that cutscene.
@sonchoydas2 жыл бұрын
Later cutscenes in the shuttle ride is emotional too.
@victorgealtach95742 жыл бұрын
Garrus, Tali, Wrex, Miranda, Kasumi, Jack, Grunt, Legion, Mordin, and Zaeed were such an integral part of my Mass Effect experience that I honestly forget it's even possible for them to die.
@solod692 жыл бұрын
All right exept Kasumi, empty character, dont even remember her looks, never used her.
@LORDdrPepper2 жыл бұрын
@@solod69 cap
@Lord_Phoenix952 жыл бұрын
I've never played with Kasumi or Zaeed.
@victorgealtach95742 жыл бұрын
I liked Kasumi because of her loyalty mission, it was a fun little heist side quest that lowered the "we're all gonna die, but we'll die swinging" vibe everyone threw at me. Zaeed...well I'll admit he was mostly just filled my the 'grumpy uncle' void since Wrex didn't join me.
@Jade_Raven2 жыл бұрын
I didnt have kasumi's dlc, she seems alright though But Zaeed, I did his loyalty just for completion/suicide safety sake, but thats the only time I ever even looked at him, he just seemed kinda generic and out of place in the squad
@bwright19912 жыл бұрын
Bailey and Kirrahe also replace Thane even if he survived ME2 but you forget to meet with him at the hospital before Cerberus attacks the citadel.
@BigDanGaming2 жыл бұрын
Correct
@covexvortex2 жыл бұрын
See, I must have messed smth up in ME1, bc I accidentally forgot to visit the citadel before the attack, but I didn't get Kirrahe
@jeffbezos29602 жыл бұрын
I didn't visit him because I was doing the genophage question when I got the message and was on the last mission so I waited till I finished to go visit him but when I went got back to the citadel it was under attack so I didn't get to see my favorite companions death scene
@sicko_ani2 жыл бұрын
@@covexvortex If you send Kaidan to the bomb and Ashley to assist captain Kirrahe, you have to save her to save him by helping the soldiers. If you prefer Kaidan, you can switch them around, but Kirrahe is at the same place, not by the bomb.
@motodog2422 жыл бұрын
@@covexvortex Yep, I fucked up too. You NEED to quickly kill everything and everyone on your way to talking to the reaper, to save Kirrahe. Never knew he could be saved until I saw a video of him taking a bullet in ME3.
@vc1801912 жыл бұрын
Padok also drops a nice bit of Krogan Culture on us by explaining how the Krogans name their children; all the males of the clan would get together for a belching contest, the sound the loudest belch makes becomes the new Krogan's name.
@winterviveca59767 ай бұрын
What
@NevinWarrior-es6dsАй бұрын
Lol
@b.sz.96528 күн бұрын
What
@Rares_G4H2 жыл бұрын
I can't play Mass Effect 3 without Garrus or Tali. Even if there's an option to get them killed on the Collector base, I just hate the fact that this is even possible.
@launcesmechanist95782 жыл бұрын
Yeah, you'd think those two would at least have some sort of plot armor but then again, the devs did want you to feel the weight and responsibilities of your choices.
@Loona102 жыл бұрын
Me neither
@shylogik2 жыл бұрын
I don’t like that’s it’s possible not because I don’t want them to die, but because they could have died means that any major importance in the plot is removed for any possible sequels, like Garris for example, besides being a bro like always, he has like 0 plot significance, same with pretty much all the other squad mates introduced in mass effect 2, they basically just get like a side mission where they say hi, or if they are dead are just replaced like no big deal.
@Skull.man007 ай бұрын
First time I finished MS 2, actually only Garrus and Tali survived 😂. Then I reloaded and finished all loyalty missions. Then only Mordin died
@Kattbirb2 жыл бұрын
It kinda makes sense that Shepherd might not have much reaction to Raan's possible death at the end without Tali. Shepherd would have seen up to four people die by suicide via gunshot at that point.
@henryviiifake82442 жыл бұрын
When you put it that way, it's actually really sad.
@Kattbirb2 жыл бұрын
@@henryviiifake8244 Yeah, it is.
@torbbi10692 жыл бұрын
who are the other 2 if you don't mind? i only know of raan and samara
@Kattbirb2 жыл бұрын
@@torbbi1069 It's up to three more, now that I count them. Fai Dan of Zhu's Hope, Saren and the Illusive Man all may die via self-inflicted gunshot in addition to Samara and Raan. With all the backstories available and so much trauma through the series, Shepherd can potentially be a mess of psychological problems.
@torbbi10692 жыл бұрын
@@Kattbirb ah okay, thanks for the refresher! agreed
@leprechaunsalwayswin75952 жыл бұрын
Imagine playing mass effect 1 without realising there's an explosive shot on the mako
@alvardiez8382 жыл бұрын
wait what
@the_biggest_chungus75082 жыл бұрын
I only realized it in my second run
@steelbear20632 жыл бұрын
Explosive shot? You mean like the tank cannon?
@levicarney11622 жыл бұрын
Just discovered it recently after years of playing.
@oliverguennewig18942 жыл бұрын
Don't need to imagine.
@slobiden.25932 жыл бұрын
It always baffled me how Admiral Raan was less useful than ordering The quatrains to stand down than Tali.
@jamesherb43842 жыл бұрын
it wasn't her being less useful, but having less reason to. tali only stood by you in the argument for peace because of how she came to see legion as more than just a machine.
@pearsemolloy96562 жыл бұрын
As much as I love Mordin, with Padok Wiks being a great character in his own right I think it’s worth letting Mordin die at least once just to experience him.
@TheSorrel2 жыл бұрын
Since Mordin dies when you as much as look at him funny at the end of 2, thats good to hear.
@pearsemolloy96562 жыл бұрын
@@TheSorrel aye his easy death is why when I’m wanting him to live I almost always send him on escort without even thinking 😂
@erickpoorbaugh67282 жыл бұрын
I sent him as the escort in my first playthrough because I thought the crew might need medical attention after their ordeal and Mordin’s status as a brilliant xenobiologist made him uniquely qualified to examine them for any hidden effects of their captivity. It turned out to be the best decision, just not for the reason I gave.
@Torthrodhel2 жыл бұрын
@@erickpoorbaugh6728 that's a great headcanon though.
@fl1ckr1452 жыл бұрын
@@erickpoorbaugh6728 I had him go because the escort was supposed to sneak the people out and who better for that job than one of the best former STG agent, but yeah your headcannon sounds way cooler
@r0w5tortion842 жыл бұрын
man, I freaking loved Dagg. He left a fairly big impression on me in the short time he was given. Yeah, he's a stereotypical Krogan in many regards, but unlike most of them, he's not an asshole in the least. He just likes fighting. A LOT. And there's something really engaging about someone who seems to be enjoying himself so much. He really did die doing what he loved most. Plus, he seems pretty honorable, a trait I usually value a lot Definitely among my top 4 Krogans, and part of a very short list of Krogan I think are worth a damn.
@bearlean62142 жыл бұрын
Just seen Dagg on KZbin, but god I Loved Him, fore sure he's a sterotyp - but he does the Job great. Some Krogan I would like to have at my site in such a war.
@Insanemasters2 жыл бұрын
Still Grunt is my boi.
@Milkshakeenthusiast4 ай бұрын
Dagg is my fav Krogan. He is just a soldier doing his job, helping you out. No fuss, no annoyances, just an outstanding Krogan who knows his assignment. With the other Krogans, you always get to hear their grievances or just find a way to get under your skin (even if it's unintentional). I was pretty sad when we left him to die. He would have made a fine addition to the team, if not assets. As for Wreav, I would be more surprised if he actually gave a damn about Dagg. Dagg may be that fallaway character, but he is probably the most memorable Krogan for me, even tho the Rachni mission didn't matter much
@Jedi_Spartan2 жыл бұрын
1:10 Wreav is so frustrating that I decided to help Aria retake her couch midway through the Genophage arc. 8:28/9:00 Are these just the default in original Mass Effect 3 for players who didn't purchase the respective ME2 DLCs?
@JEBERNARD2 жыл бұрын
For Kasumi & Zaeed, if you never brought the DLC or they died in ME2 then those are the replacements regardless
@Jedi_Spartan2 жыл бұрын
@@JEBERNARD thought so.
@mycomnithegreat43424 күн бұрын
@@JEBERNARDso if you played ME2 and they survive, you don't need the dlc?
@Vegito_Fanpage19 күн бұрын
@@mycomnithegreat434 No he means that if you don't have the DLC, as I didn't, these take their role. Separately, if you DID have the DLC but they died during the assault, then their replacements also take their roles.
@billsutherby2 жыл бұрын
Jondum Bau's complete passivity and lack of struggling or fighting back when the random C-Sec guy was choking him to death always makes me laugh my ass off. You're a Spectre, dude, handle this situation. If they wanted to make it more believable. Have the random C-Sec guy be the one at the terminal and you don't suspect him. Then the Hanar says "My colleague has just uploaded the virus." That's when the camera focuses on C-Sec guy. Shepard can go take out the C-Sec guy and have the Hanar use his tentacles to immobilize and strangle Bau. If you've talked to Zaeed in ME2, he mentions that Hanar are surprisingly strong and have good grip. So this would pass as possibly threatening to a Spectre. Much more than a random red shirt C-Sec guy at least.
@Viper6312 жыл бұрын
Urdnot Dagg- "Time to die!" Shepard- "That's the spirit" Dagg- "No I mean me... I'M about to die!!"
@sirpiken2 жыл бұрын
it's amazing how much extra work they made for themselves by having soo many squadmates that can kick the bucket.
@10Adragon2 жыл бұрын
In my opinion, Xen is pretty damn good as a character, probably one of the most unique ones in ideology amongst her people, plus Morrigan's voice gives her an extra edge. Unfortunately we can only see more of her if Tali dies.
@Torthrodhel2 жыл бұрын
Great character in the same vein as Udina, I always thought. A complete and utter asshole, just a very satisfying one to butt heads against.
@carlsiouxfalls2 жыл бұрын
I love Admirals Raan and Xen, mostly based on the wonderfully unique female voices the two actresses have.
@Torthrodhel2 жыл бұрын
@@carlsiouxfalls definitely a big plus in both cases!
@YourCrazyDolphin2 жыл бұрын
She has a lot of dialogue on the Normandy if Tali's alive, too. Including mention that she used to dissect her plush toys as a child.
@shannaclankie1842 жыл бұрын
Claudia Black also voiced Liara's dad and the difference is crazy. But on a side note - I loved her voice so much from DA, that I looked up her other film roles. Her character on Farscape is epic. I definitely recommend it. She's even a more amazing actor than just a voice.
@batmanthe2 жыл бұрын
They could have inspired like a whole 10% more playthroughs of the game if you could invite Mordin to the Citadel DLC party after keeping him alive.
@majormononoke8958 Жыл бұрын
or legion.
@CoryMassacre22 жыл бұрын
Thane survived my Mass Effect 2, but I never noticed him in the hospital before the Cerberus attack. Kirrahe stood in during the attack as if Thane was dead, but Shepard still said "That was for Thane, you son of a bitch!" when killing Kai Leng. It confused that hell out of me when I played!
@clay14302 жыл бұрын
On my playthroughs without Thane Shepard would say "That was for Thessia you son of a bitch" which I've honestly always preferred since it showed how much Shepard cared for people completely unrelated to them. I'm guessing that since you kept Thane alive in the save the game just assumed you met up with him and the dialog was picked the moment the game started.
@zafelrede488411 ай бұрын
You never read your emails, do you?
@AdmiralHalimesh2 жыл бұрын
Still breaks my heart if you betray Wrex in ME3 and sabotage the cure. He finds out and confronts you on the Citadel, and you have to kill him
@richieclark8822 жыл бұрын
that confrontation is so brutal
@foolisnoteighteenyet2 жыл бұрын
I doubt I'll ever be strong enough to do such a playthrough
@SpectreRyder2 жыл бұрын
I did that once....legit shed a tear. I was actually talking to the game saying "Don't do this Wrex. Please don't make me do this."
@justpassingby2983 ай бұрын
I will say I do wish there was a way to have both of them by the end, maybe something even more difficult than the requirements for quarian-geth peace. But oh well, guess it does make for a more catching game if you have to make sacrifices for the greater good
@tylerfrizzell33192 жыл бұрын
Imagine how much more fleshed out it could have been provided the not having like 18 .months to make the entire game
@Andre80.52 жыл бұрын
I never understood why they gave to developers this kind of deadline... Cost cutting is never a good option if you are known as the best...but EA is such a joke and ruined BioWare
@gibberconfirm4252 жыл бұрын
@@Andre80.5 Seems to me the original sin behind Bioware's troubles was these games just not selling quite as well as you might imagine. Even like Fallout: New Vegas might've sold 3x the copies of Mass Effect 2. So the classic Bioware game design, after several of them, just deemed not lucrative enough. Kinda sad and shitty.
@dirtysanchez6542 жыл бұрын
Garrus and Tali are two of my favorite characters🙂❤️😊 thanks for this awesome video BigDanGaming 💯🔥🙃
@nam90852 жыл бұрын
wow garrus and tali are your favorites? you're so quirky and unique
@dirtysanchez6542 жыл бұрын
@@nam9085 Your IQ does not even make a respectable earthquake.”
@nam90852 жыл бұрын
@@dirtysanchez654 At least I know what a quotation mark is like hello.. why is there a random quotation mark at the end? 😭 Did you steal that comeback from a website or something? LMFAO
@anthonyernst9998 ай бұрын
Bro who cares@@nam9085
@xellotath8632 жыл бұрын
Iirc Falere has a line where she mentions that Shepard got Samara killed if she dies during the suicide mission. Dunno what she says if you never recruit Samara though.
@Mercurio24352 жыл бұрын
I love how they made it safe to kill off Jacob 🤣😂
@janeshepard95492 жыл бұрын
Bioware punishes in the sequel if you get squadmates killed.
@juzoli2 жыл бұрын
Bad decisions lead to bad outcomes. It all makes sense. Part of Shepard’s success was coming from the great team he has built.
@jomnix2 жыл бұрын
Except with mordin: padok is far better.
@juzoli2 жыл бұрын
@@janeshepard9549 I just recommended it on another thread. I didn’t try it yet, but I plan to do it on my current playthrough.
@janeshepard95492 жыл бұрын
@@juzoli It's worth it ;)
@juzoli2 жыл бұрын
@@janeshepard9549 I don’t promise to not use the resurrect all option in the end though:D It depends on what happens to Garrus. I kind of want to see Mordin die though, after seeing this video.
@OriginalKasym Жыл бұрын
One thing I love about Padok Wiks is his interesting views on the universe. He's a scientist, so he looks at life with a logical and academic outlook. But he's also very spiritual, believing that our actions have a lasting effect in the universe. Both of them helped create the genophage, and Mordin cures it because of his regrets, but Padok does it because he believes he has a moral obligation to fix it.
@tmytyson2 жыл бұрын
Thank goodness this guy was willing to let the squad die to find out what happens because I sure didn't have the guts to. Also poor Kirrahe at 7:10. "Hold the line" to the bitter end.
@FirestormDDash2 жыл бұрын
Hope the new mass effect has such a dynamic choice and effect system. Even for a first playthrough, having a bad choice feel worse later, would be inspiring.
@thepredatorgamer39892 жыл бұрын
The reason there wasn't an actual person to replace Garrus (like how Wiks replaced Mordin or Wreav replaced Wrex) is because they didn't expect anyone would want to kill him... Especially not those who wanted to romance him. But since there was a possibility of him accidentally dieing in ME2 they just gave the lines over to Corinthis.
@SithisXVII2 жыл бұрын
5:51 that look Shepard gave her after she offed herself was hilarious. 🤣
@avb19d62 жыл бұрын
I genuinely like Kirrahe “holding the line” till the end, more then Thane.
@snipedude4953 Жыл бұрын
I've played the Mass Effect trilogy numerous times and I've never lost any companion. I didn't know there where replacements, so your video is very informative to me.
@thesnep47572 жыл бұрын
Dude simply mentioning the scene with Legion and what he says when deciding what happens in the Quarian vs. Geth war has me on the verge of tears.
@Deception9752 жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly, you can still have Kirrahe show up to save the councilor. Even if Thane is still alive, by not talking to Thane in Mass Effect 3.
@jamesherb43842 жыл бұрын
you can. though it doesn't do anything to keep thane alive.
@dreamfantasy7882 жыл бұрын
@@jamesherb4384 That's true. The reason being is because Thane was in the final stages of Kepral's Syndrome and he required daily treatment, so eventually, he would have died during the game
@gabrielrussell5531 Жыл бұрын
It's so weird that Tali is a full, permanent squadmate in 3, since she has the highest chance of dying: She can die to a lack of ship upgrades, and has the second lowest "hold the line" score behind Mordin. Mordin however will likely be safe in your squad, or escorting the cr3w.
@rogen809411 күн бұрын
Originally, she wasn't going to be until the last minute due to her extreme popularity. Her role was meant to be filled by EDI. However, Tali is a fan favorite, so they added her in. Her late addition is part of why she shows up so late in the story. A shame - I would've liked more Tali, tbh
@gabrielrussell553111 күн бұрын
@@rogen8094 I mean Wrex was even more popular, and he wasn't a full squadmate, for similar story-reasons that Tali shouldn't have been.
@rogen809411 күн бұрын
@@gabrielrussell5531 Fair. Wrex totally should have been as well
@godsamongmen80032 жыл бұрын
You could finish ME2 without ever recruiting Tali. I never did that, and I wonder if Tali would be there in ME3?
@BigDanGaming2 жыл бұрын
I have a video on that actually :) kzbin.info/www/bejne/rnnWqZ9uZruKpbM TLDR - she doesn't :/
@TheRomanRuler2 жыл бұрын
Viks is so good that i wish we could have had both him and Scientist Salarian at the same time.
@Flufux2 жыл бұрын
It wasn't there considering the footage in the video used male Shepard, but in the scene where Traynor talks to Shepard instead of Garrus, if you play as Femshep, you get a somewhat amusing scene of Traynor being...ahem...'distracted'...by Shepard's bottom. Definitely not worth killing Garrus for, but rather amusing nonetheless.
@CowboyBebop2622 жыл бұрын
Glad I'm not the only one that noticed that, lol
@ClassySithLady2 жыл бұрын
So it just zaps all of the emotion from the choices that matter in me3
@carlsiouxfalls2 жыл бұрын
That emotion was already spent when those companions died. Now the cold choices are just what's best for earth.
@nickllama52962 жыл бұрын
I've played ME through probably a dozen times or more, and most of this stuff I've never seen before. I just can't bear to let any of my homies die! Good video!
@kamata932 жыл бұрын
Hey Dan! I have an awesome idea for the next video! You know that you can replace Doctor Chakwas in ME3 with some other younger doctor (can't remember her name). You could make a video showing differences if you have Chakwas and when you instead chose the other one. Just FYI if you are wondering about the next video.
@christineherrmann2052 жыл бұрын
You can choose Dr. Michel in Huerta.
@carly75222 жыл бұрын
What??????
@boxhead4112 жыл бұрын
Just saying.... Totally felt ya when you said, "Goddess forbid" during Garrus's.... Ahem.... Death.....
@BockworschtSoldier Жыл бұрын
Interesting Video. It´s not a Problem for me with the spoilers because I will never get the bad outcomes. In all my Playthroughs I saved the crew. What an cool twist that you can only get peace between Geth and Quarians when you worked for it in ME 2 and ME 3.
@RavenWhisper02 жыл бұрын
If Padok Wiks is the second Wrex's source of information in STG, in case Mordin is dead, does Wrex find out about your betrayal when you choose not to cure the genophage?
@BigDanGaming2 жыл бұрын
He does. Wrex will say "Wiks wasn't my only source in STG" during the confrontation. The scene will play out basically the same. I touch on it in this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/aJ6yn4Ooadekmtk
@Dark_Voice2 жыл бұрын
Tbh, Wrex having so many salarian sources is bs in the first place. Even if you whiped out all sources that Wrex had, he would have bugged Normandy SR2 while being only on Normandy SR1 and Illusive man thought it was a feature of the ship AND would recreate the bugs OR Wrex would hack EDI with his omnitool and gain the information. Or he would pay the Shadow broker for the Info with developers forgetting that the Shadow broker is Liara. Seriously, ME3 has more plot holes and plot devices than I ever imagined. They simply had to make a lot of shortcuts in order to make it in 2 years.
@RavenWhisper02 жыл бұрын
@@BigDanGaming Damn, Wrex truly is much more thoughtful than his brother
@titanhades43312 жыл бұрын
@@Dark_Voice Actually, it's not hard to imagine Wrex having a few Salarian contacts. You just proved this by showing how practical he is.
@Dark_Voice2 жыл бұрын
@@titanhades4331 I didnt prove anything. All I said was that its ridiculous something like this would be possible or would go past EDI unnoticed. Him hacking EDI is bs outright.
@Wtfgladiator11 ай бұрын
It does make you appreciate how much detail BioWare did for mass effect even you didn’t get everyone killed
@nathangordon48912 жыл бұрын
Padok is a great character, I would’ve loved to see him and Mordin interact
@HighHeelKnight2 жыл бұрын
I made sure to keep all of my team members alive in original release of ME2, so I could have them all in ME3. I didn't learn that there were substitute characters in ME3 until last year (2020). I felt like Sally Field in restaurant dinner scene in MRS DOUBTFIRE... "THE WHOLE TIME!? THE WHOLE TIME!? THE WHOLE TIME!?"
@rockets5292 жыл бұрын
This is what makes these games so great, idk how many times I’ve replayed the trilogy and always find something new or something I haven’t done
@ThatOneVideoGameАй бұрын
Videos like this are why I love KZbin. Great video topic idea
@themarathonman28742 жыл бұрын
When I first played Mass effect 2 and 3 it simulated all my actions in ME1 it simulated that I killed Wrex on Ilos and let Ashley die on Virmire. So when I played through these two games I liked Weeav a lot but had no idea one of the GOATS Wrex was even a character until I replayed the trilogy. Ashley too. Mass Effect is amazing
@willdixon75642 жыл бұрын
You lack of love for ash is unacceptable
@hellarox28542 жыл бұрын
About this from 9:45 there is one dialogue. Falere mentioned that she've heard her mother was working with shephard and she died on collectors base and it appear only in this outcome.
@travishamel75942 жыл бұрын
I played ME3 before any of the others. For a while, I thought most of these were the main characters
@jefersonmartins64712 жыл бұрын
Yep! And you learned your lesson: 'Never start a trilogy by the third!'
@judgegreg55082 жыл бұрын
This is the video I've been waiting for.
@emirayub99452 жыл бұрын
For these things I love Mass Effect. I have played each game at least five times but in each playtrough I find new things that never cease to amaze me.
@Lufisyth8 ай бұрын
Wiks expression of aw and wonder to questionable disgust or anger when thinking about Krogan mating was absolutely brilliant.
@badbonezthlegnd20492 жыл бұрын
Correction wrex doesn’t have to die on virmire for wreave to be leader instead. If you don’t recruit him wreave will still take over
@mranthonymills2 жыл бұрын
Makes sense, since without Shepard recruiting him, Wrex would still be out being a mercenary.
@jefersonmartins64712 жыл бұрын
But BigDan said that... 1:14
@badbonezthlegnd20492 жыл бұрын
@@mranthonymills coulda swore I only heard him say if wrex dies in me1
@lelouche25 Жыл бұрын
I do love Padok Wicks face during his dialouge.
@ChevaliersEmeraude2 жыл бұрын
10:00 That's exactly why I laugh when people complain that "your choices didn't matter in the end" thingy. Can you imagine how much extra content they'd have to create for ALL the unique choices you made over all three games? We'd have like a hundred different endings, if not more! The games provided a good story, beginning middle and end, and the choices you made did have an impact, as this video pointed out. But ultimately the story had to end with Shepard defeating the enemy they fought over the course of the entire trilogy, there wasn't really any other ending than that!
@storminmay2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for going over these so I never have to sacrifice my besties myself ❤️
@julianofcintra6622 жыл бұрын
In my latest Playthrough i will meet nearly all of them. Only Tali, Legion and Garrus survived
@JenMaxon2 жыл бұрын
You monster you
@julianofcintra6622 жыл бұрын
@@JenMaxon i know. Maybe i revive Grunt and Jack with my Saveeditor
@clay14302 жыл бұрын
How did you manage to get Miranda killed? I've been playing these games for nearly a decade and even on my worst run she somehow got away just fine.
@julianofcintra6622 жыл бұрын
@@clay1430 Dont make her Loyal and bring her to the End Fight.
@vincentraymond55362 жыл бұрын
I kept everyone alive and was looking for a video exactly like this, thank you.
@GreenAdam3132 жыл бұрын
I laughed when Oriana and Henry fell
@anonymousplatypusplato31772 жыл бұрын
Good vid, this felt like it was almost an entirely new story when I saw this I knew a few of these but never saw most cause I always try to save everyone.
@nottelling48282 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I don't have the desire to lose a squad mate for a bland experience in ME3. Besides, it makes Citadel:Shore Leave that much more depressing. In my very first play through YEARS ago, I lost Wrex on Virmire. I didn't realize that side missions were that important. I also lost a few squad mates during the Collector Base on more than one occasion (Garrus once, Mordin a few times, and Jacob once, I think). To date, I haven't played through the trilogy with a lost squad mate (Kaiden notwithstanding). I don't have the heart for it, I guess.
@suburbannegro4112 жыл бұрын
Conclusion: *SAVE YOUR GODDAMN SQUADMATES*
@rellyrell15222 жыл бұрын
You finally made the video. Thanks Dan. Thank you for accepting my suggestion
@ClassySithLady2 жыл бұрын
I prefer morinth over Samara but they literally just ganked morinth into a renamed banshee and a few emails, would have chose to kill Samara but morinth adds nothing to me3, I'm disappointed
@Torthrodhel2 жыл бұрын
@@Whatisthisstupidfinghandle the Leviathan mission in ME3 also gets you access to that skill. And I really like Morinth so it really was a shame how little impact she made. It makes sense for her character to just run off and end up being converted I guess. But at least give us a trail of interesting destruction to investigate, or something like that? An unloyal Jack similarly just gets converted (by Cerberus rather than the Reapers... if that's even a distinction at that point!) but she has to be unloyal for that to be the case. Morinth just gets that treatment regardless. I guess because she cannot be unloyal? Still the most disappointing squadmate result.
@Torthrodhel2 жыл бұрын
@@Whatisthisstupidfinghandle I do like an ME2 playthrough having already unlocked it, with AI Hacking on one side of the controller and Dominate on the other. Shepard showing the Reapers how to indoctrinate with style! :D
@varric11 ай бұрын
@@Torthrodhel Jack get kidnapped by Cerberus if you fail to save Grissom Academy in time.
@Torthrodhel11 ай бұрын
@@varric yep, turning her into nothing more than a named version of one of the generic enemies. Shame to see, but certainly one of the more likely outcomes, as she's such a glass cannon and so fragile during the end of ME2.
@aiis68212 жыл бұрын
4:35 You're damn right Goddess forbid
@carloscatarino78902 жыл бұрын
I had a few of these outcomes during some of my playthroughs just to see how it played out. But I never had the guts so let either Garrus or Tali die during the suicide mission. Now that I watched this, I'm glad I didn't.
@kred7922 жыл бұрын
I never had a playthrough that Jacob didn't survive so I've never seen Dr Webber before this very moment
@gamerx7592 жыл бұрын
Wiks was funny af. XD
@irinakermong12172 жыл бұрын
Kirrahe really held the line until the end huh *wipes tear*
@Siansonea2 жыл бұрын
This video exemplifies why I can’t rate Mass Effect 3 as a perfect game. Well, this and the very ending. Just having a few minor differences in dialogue is a far cry from the ‘your actions have consequences’ promise of the series. Those consequences seem pretty superficial in the final analysis. Another major issue I have is the way Ashley and Kaidan became a single character after Virmire. It’s highly absurd that both Ashley and Kaidan would have pretty much the same exact dialogue on Horizon in ME2, and that they would both be assigned there in the first place. And that only becomes more absurd in ME3 when they both have the exact same dialogue in a number of places in the story, and both have the exact same story trajectory. Ashley and Kaidan had very different career trajectories prior to ME1, and very different personalities. The only thing they have in common is that they are Alliance soldiers. It would have been much more realistic to have only Ashley or Kaidan show up on Horizon and berate Shepard about Cerberus. If they are dead in that playthrough, then the Alliance sent someone else, and no confrontation occurs. You could then encounter the Virmire Survivor at a different point in the story, with different dialogue, and a different outcome. And that could all continue in Mass Effect 3, with only Ashley or Kaidan being a Spectre candidate, and the other doing something else entirely. Just having them both living the same exact life with the same exact dialogue after one of them dies feels really ‘game-y’ in a game that otherwise feels very realistic and immersive. I think it makes a lot more sense to have Surviving Kaidan's story play out as we see it in the games, with him being assigned to Horizon and becoming a Spectre, since he was an officer and a biotic, and pretty much the poster boy for the Alliance. I think if Ashley's story had taken a very different turn, being sort of drummed out of the Alliance because of her family history, we could have had a much better story with her that would really make people want to replay the game. Maybe Ashley became involved with Aria T'Loak on Omega, and her story ends with her helping to save the galaxy in a very different way that feels much more personalized. I just think it could have been so much better.
@HelmuthGerka2 жыл бұрын
All these games are about having a good illusion of choice, its impossible to make it any more complicated with realistic budgets and timescales.
@Siansonea2 жыл бұрын
@@HelmuthGerka it's not impossible, it just requires creativity.
@jaba062 жыл бұрын
My mind is kinda blown about that Morinth appearance in ME3, I never knew this @_@
@Jedi_Spartan2 жыл бұрын
Here's an incredibly dark idea I had (at least in part based on Big Dan's joke from 'not releasing Grunt' video of Grunt becoming a mega Krogan Husk), have any squadmates who died during 2 or 3 becoming an enemy in the final missions of ME3 (like the Jack Phantom and Morinth Banshee). Eg: have Cerberus recover Legion and have it still become the 'Legion Assassin' unit the same as selling it to Cerberus and Morinth still become a Banshee if she slips away in a failed version of Samara's Loyalty Mission. Or (the darkest idea I came up with) have GARRUS become Marauder Shields if he died during the Collector Base or have him merged into a Brute with Grunt if the Krogan also died. Also maybe have Jacob take Kai Leng's role if he survives rather than having him in the Ex-Cerberus Scientists mission (either have him remain committed to Cerberus or for a hideout he's located in get raided on The Illusive Man's orders and have him forcibly indoctrinated in an attempt to throw Shepard off balance during Citadel, Thessia and Cerberus HQ).
@JollyWanker2 жыл бұрын
Calm down, Satan
@Jedi_Spartan2 жыл бұрын
@@JollyWanker had a feeling that I'd get a reaction like that even without the Garrus part...
@fenrisvermundr25162 жыл бұрын
An idea I had for Miranda. If you don't complete her loyalty mission and she survives. She remains loyal to Cerberus. She plays a more antagonistic role. When you first meet her on the Citadel it's how she normally would be. Tells you she left Cerberus and is there tracking down Oriana, and in all meetings plays along with you. The first major hint is in Priority: Citadel where you find a Pad mentioning an "Agent L." The big reveal is in Priority: Horizon. Where she betrays you and you have to fight her.
@drewtheunspoken39882 жыл бұрын
That's a lot of content I'll never see. I love Mass Effect.
@awesomehpt89382 жыл бұрын
Why anyone would do this is beyond me
@FabledThunder2 жыл бұрын
Same
@davep82212 жыл бұрын
Probably already known, but Claudia Black also plays Liara's other mom. She's the bartender in Conrad's bar in ME2 and the bartender in ME3. Some nice dialog if you've hooked up with Liara.
@Vesp3r19872 жыл бұрын
I once mistakenly clicked that i side with the Geth during Rhanock mission... my eyes teared up and i didnt play ME for the rest of the day.... next day i reloaded older save and fixed everything
@AlMcpherson79Ай бұрын
"without jacob" - "just an extra wave to shoot" Sounds like a win-win to me!
@CRYOKnox2 жыл бұрын
"Did you lost your teammates do to bad decision? Call the R*-Team." *Replacement Think about a whole parallel universe story where Shepard never became Specter or died in the past and we get a weird replacement with this as his/her team... Seems priceless to me. Also because they aren't specters or even military they just hopp around in a Black Cargo freighter with a red stripe on the side... And the Krogan wears Gold chains arround his neck and hates Planetary Landings. Okay enough weird A-Team references no one gets...😅
@Torthrodhel2 жыл бұрын
I like imagining a totally alternate Mass Effect where Shepard never even joined the military, and everyone fills similar roles it's just really obscure characters. Led of course by the first human spectre, Conrad Verner. Who's haunted by having had to choose between Khalisah and Fist on Virmire. And who didn't like being forced to take over Captain Jenkins's ship, but knew it had to be done and begrudgingly went along with the advice of Earth councillor Gavin Hossle. Remember saving the Thorian only to have it indoctrinated by Reapers in the next game? Shame you couldn't do the same with the Krogan Queen at the end of Noveria. How about Fisto finally joining the squad in ME3, though? About time huh! I really liked the DLC characters too, Barla Von's such a cutesy little thief and Patriarch is totally the ship's grumpy grandpa. At least the ME2 ones anyway - Vigil was a bit of an asshole in ME3. Why'd he have to be a crucible scientist, couldn't we have got a spirit of vengeance or something? Gotta go for that Elcor romance though. I mean what are your other choices? The vorcha's just gonna die anyway, and Wilson just cheats on you (plus why's Conrad so flirty with him in the first place? Just because he wasn't that Jacob guy who Oriana shot when you woke up in the base after being rebuilt by Exo-Geni?) Anyway, Admiral Traynor's available on vidcon.
@KenshiImmortalWolf2 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised you didn't actually play the line "i punched him in the face" from padok
@JollyWanker2 жыл бұрын
The reason I searched for this is because I wanna know who replaces Garrus in the playthroughs of these absolute degenerates that allow him to die. Seriously, if Garrus is dead in your playthrough, rethink your life choices and consider therapy
@SuperNiceteeth2 жыл бұрын
Calm down, it's just a game.
@JollyWanker2 жыл бұрын
@@SuperNiceteeth no u
@lordharkon842 жыл бұрын
Lol. He is dead in my game, and I drank a whole bottle of Rhyncol just to piss on his grave
@Maverick7613Ай бұрын
While you mentioned the Banshee Morinth cameo - it's worth mentioning that if you sell Legion to Cerberus, rather than activating him, he appears in the Cerberus HQ mission as a named Nemesis sniper enemy - and if Jack survives ME2, but you simply ignore the Grissom Academy mission in ME3, she appears in the Cerberus HQ as a named Phantom biotic melee enemy.
@DexterGrifFTW2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been looking for a video on this for so long man
@christoferrage2 жыл бұрын
I like that you make these videos. Because no matter how many times I replay the games I always have to make sure everyone lives no matter what lol
@posthardcoresinger2 жыл бұрын
First time I played ME3 I didn't have my ME2 save from my old HDD, I MAY have imported a recent ME1 playthrough at the time if that was possible can't be sure... but I played through the game with (almost) ALL of these replacements as a result (or whatever was default I guess for skipping ME2), not knowing that the original characters were even supposed to be there. Crazy when I finally replayed it during LE with proper imported ME2 saves to see the Jack, Wrex etc. scenes without the annoying B tier replacements.
@INCONTINENS2 жыл бұрын
I don’t know why but “what’s up everyone, big Dan here” gets me so hyped 😂
@winternet94782 жыл бұрын
Everytime he says the line it feels like a big event is about to happen
@jasonmiller23792 жыл бұрын
"If god forbid Garrus died in Mass Effect 2" He didn't die, he was too busy with calibrations to help in ME3
@turnupthesun81 Жыл бұрын
This is really interesting. I wonder if anyone will make a series like Mass Effect again. All of the time and effort to make dialogue, animations and storylines, a company would probably say it’s not cost effective.