MASS RED CIRCUIT; Yet Never Enough... | 30 | Factorio SPACE AGE

[@JohnKerrashVirgo]

"OMG what happened on Gleba?" I feel this in my soul 😂

[@Nortonius_]

It’s ALWAYS Gleba 😂

[@andresdcv7870]

I feel the last 2 factories at the top left in each column should be spinning, like the others ;) I'd suggest to give them a look, Nilaus! ;)

[@ingiford175]

Was looking at the same thing....

[@maxmork2]

the plastic belt is not going all the way up. Should be easy fix

[@theburgerbox9576]

@@maxmork2 i think it's actually the wire belt

[@oliverfoxi]

He makes mistakes on purpose to get more comments I suppose 😅

[@RandomAlienGaming]

At 9:55 I think you could squash the splitter up one more square. But saying that, I feel like a sports fan shouting at the TV when a professional athlete makes a tiny error. Nilaus you are the professional athlete of Factorio!

[@galisgalis70]

This planet feels illegal. Making mass green circuits on a tiny factory

[@jeorito]

，，，😅Uklt. Dc😅🎉We🎉

[@flwi]

Haha, you were talking about a reliable supply of plastic and panic switched to gleba twice in this episode 🙈

[@AnastasisGrammenos]

When you copy a build, hold shift so you can edit the blueprint before saving and remove any items you dont want

[@mason.elmore]

Thank you! So many random blueprints in my inventory that I forget to delete.

[@SignificantOwl]

With the 20 million-size coal patches you find on Vulcanus, big mining drills (especially once you have them of higher quality), plus plastic productivity, plus general productivity moduling, I really don't think it makes sense to import plastic. Of course, it can be done in many ways, and it's fine for people to solve Factorio however they want. Just not what I'd do, I guess.

[@КирилоХацько]

question is NOT in coal, main issue with water.

[@ingiford175]

@@КирилоХацько Coal - Full Coal Liquefaction - Sulfuric Acid - Steam - Water. Or you can go from the sulfuric acid if you have a decent throughput in your pumps.

[@jokcho5]

@@КирилоХацько sulfuric acid and calcite produce more than enough

[@SirDubington]

agreed. on my save i make legendary plastic this way with cryos then reverse engineer that with recyclers to get infinite legendary steel and copper for free

[@Quicks1lvr]

That's what has sort of confused me. You have large coal and calcite deposits already on the planet. To me it seemed natural to go coal liquification after I got the tech. That said Gleba does make plastic at higher quantities due to the basic productivity bonus on the biochambers before any modules.

[@cthulhu8977]

molten and forget the calcite. The man going to be sad come startup :)

[@LetsPlayBrick]

i rewatched this to figure out where you were getting your plastic from and I sighed when you said Gleba. I saw Doshs playthrough and thought it was awesome how minimized Gleba could be. The recipe for cracking seems easy and plentiful enough, but I'm going to have to know this is more efficient somehow now 😫

[@gabrielladias420]

Just add artillery and tesla turrets to Gleba, it gets very quiet after that

[@Bobylein1337]

Yep artillery is so strong there

[@Quicks1lvr]

Yes I agree. It keeps the nests out of your spore cloud pretty easily. You still get some attacks, but nothing a few gun, rocket, and tesla turrets can't handle.

[@adrianespinoza7179]

Yesterday i made a 40/min speed module 3 in vulcanus. I was following you last video and say "i have the circuits, lets make modules"

[@submachinegun5737]

I’ve been thinking that with the large size of scrap deposits, you could probably still make huge amounts of all circuits on fulgora by making a separate factory that uses all of the recycled copper iron and plastic and also turns that into more circuits

[@Erik_Ice_Fang]

There is never enough plastic on Fulgora if you are also making modules. Using more plastic on circuits directly competes with the superconductors and rocket launches as well. Unless you are willing to store/sacrifice huge amounts of holmium, which I would imagine most people wont be willing to do

[@submachinegun5737]

@ Since scrap is so abundant, I’m setting this up as a separate factory dedicated to circuits after building my main factory, and don’t care about throwing away extra holmium steel or the large amount of iron from the gears. There are so many small islands with millions of scrap that are relatively easy to set up mining outposts on and to ship it around with trains, so wasting resources from scrap is not an issue tbh

[@dopeslope7]

Top left machine wasn't spinning. I'm guessing it doesn't have inputs.

[@frendlie4192]

Yep, the top left machines in each column are missing the splitter and inserters. Copy/paste error when he moved the bottom row to the top to make room for the inputs.

[@ShadoFXPerino]

My concern with space trade is that your factory is ultimately constrained by how much product you can expel from a landing pad

[@submachinegun5737]

So you need at least one space for a cargo bay attached to the pad, which can then snake off into a large amount of cargo bays to accept more landing pods, but otherwise you can fit 8 stack inserters on each side, 8+8+8+4 (for the one side that has a cargo bay attached) for a total of 28. Especially since you can also get legendary inserters to buff the speed, it seems like landing pad throughput is absurdly upgradeable

[@jokcho5]

@@submachinegun5737 well you need 2 inserters minimum to saturate a belt. that already limits you to 14 belts. i dont know if 2 legendary stack inserters can saturate a belt. so that can be less than 14 already. so the maximum non-stacked belts you can get is 56. thats not much for a true interplanetary scale. they should just allow taking out of extensions. i dont kow why they imposed such a limitation.

[@ShadoFXPerino]

@submachinegun5737 i know that, but it's still all situated in one location. You'll need to get X number of trains max in there to get the plastic out, and then that's the max number of plastic you'll have for the entire planet.

[@submachinegun5737]

@@jokcho5 Because extensions can snake anywhere, this completely breaks the game if you can take out of them, since they could then teleport items anywhere across the factory. Anyway with legendary stack inserters, it’s still absurdly fast, remember these are not 1.0 blue belts these are 240 item/s stacked green belts

[@dimavolkov8793]

​@submachinegun5737 then they should allow building multiple landing pad for planet. This kind of limitation is unreasonable. Right now there are serious limitations to building mega factory. One can export as much as they want, but not import. What the point?

[@kingcrimson1631]

I have to hand it to you Nilaus, you do come up with amazing designs. I try to stick to my own designs but it will be really difficult not to steal that elegant red circuits build

[@gucky4717]

I have a small problem with my Seed..almost no coal on Vulcanus. I only had the started patch and the second one is far away protected by medium worms. ATM I am getting ready for Aquilos to get Railguns for the big worms. :D

[@ryanm2628]

Uranium cannon shells work great if you have Physical damage 9 or 10

[@Wendigoop]

Have tried the search function on the map? Coal is really hard to spot on Vulcanus. Just in case. In the map view top right the magnifying glass or ctrl/strg + f and then type the name of what ever you a looking for.

[@gucky4717]

@@ryanm2628 I killed the medium with those + a lot of Tesla Towers (no resistence). But the big one is out of reach. :D

[@TrevorSmithy]

You can never have enough red circuits

[@korsaircandyman13]

"IF you have more money than sense and support me on Patreon." Amazing. Guy is downselling his own Patreon. Love it.

[@tomn9955]

I think the stack inserters have a problem with split belts, but I am not sure. Because I assume they wait until they are full to insert and I wonder if there's a situation where the machine is already full of green circuits but missing plastic and, stack inserter already grabbed plastic then don't insert any more items.

[@Hlebuw3k]

Yes, that issue happened often in my factory so I had to switch all stack inserters that insert into machines to bulk inserters

[@knicknacks]

It seems like that's only an issue if you have mixed stack heights (like if you originally used bulk inserters and upgraded to stack later)

[@КирилоХацько]

I am not sure that you hauler can handle plastic delivery for this amount. You need 60plstic*4lanes*60seconds = 14,4 thousand plastic per each minute. What is cadence of plastic delivery?

[@jokcho5]

yeah thats crazy. you need so many dedicated plstic rockets on Gleba. I feel like coal patches is the way to go :D

[@wittyharp2869]

it's a 4 car train every 80 seconds, roughly a rocket launch from gleba every 10 seconds to keep this going. not too terrible with a good plastic setup on gleba, a ship hauling an absolutely atrocious amount of plastic between the two isn't hard, just some basic guns needed and you can slap all the engines on that. if all you're producing is zoom juice and ammo, you could just go nuts on storage, haul 20 rockets worth if you'd like. have a second ship getting loaded while the first is getting unloaded. doable. silly with coal and calcite and sulfuric acid on vulcanus but whatever, it would certainly look cool launching that many rockets

[@jokcho5]

@@wittyharp2869 silly but cool is a good description. With all the productivity research i was able to get over 100 plastic/s out of 60ish coal/s. with 28mil coal patches thats basically infinite :D

[@Sworn973]

20:12 Did he realise the last two assembler at left are not working? it is missing the left spliter/inserter

[@CFHoneyBadger]

Hey Nilaus, the rate calculator mod has been updated for 2.0 if you want to add it. I think it'd really help when showing off these builds.

[@Lightndavoid]

You should have the plastic delivered straight from the spacehub on a belt, no trains

[@chimmy_jim]

Mmmm lovely red circuits! Great series, thanks!

[@husselbeh1058]

Hi Nilaus, is there any chance you'll be updating the HUB Blueprints now that some recipes have changed?

[@halberdier25]

Why not put another landing pad by the factory?

[@aswragentutasvreg3631]

I use 2 recyclers to get rid of items { Facing each other }. No need for belts, but still takes up place tho :/

[@WookieJebus]

Rockets can request from buffer chests. Not as good as having loaded rockets, but close enough

[@Sworn973]

Yah fulgora red circuit is always a bottle neck, exactly for plastic reasons if you try to help it with manufacturing from green and plastic.

[@evangeloskarountzos9301]

You could have switched the copper/iron foundries in place so the copper belt can just go

[@shkulhari]

@nilaus the top left red circuit is not getting the input of copper wire.

[@RubberDuck5]

How do you managed gleba science if you are not researching it? Also can you not use cargo hubs to offload instead of trains?

[@kelevrajoce]

Sadly we can't place more than one cargo hub per planet! So train it is I guess

[@88porpoise]

Since everything on Gleba is completely infinite, if not using the science, just let it spoil.

[@ColAnubis]

I approve of this ship name

[@Sharrdik]

Hey Nilaus, how is the framerate at this point of the game ? Most times it seems finde on your video, but sometimes at the belts i feel like your game has lag spikes sometimes. You also have a lot going on on so many planets. But can you tell if it starts having spikes at this point of the game ?

[@titanuranus2136]

Your videos are great. However 1440p or 4K resolution would make it a LOT easier to see finer details when zoomed out, even if watching on a 1080p monitor it helps with youtube video compression a lot.

[@lawreNz1337]

The boxes for the 2nd and 3rd row of trains on vulcanus are not requesting plastic

[@cainau]

They're not intended to. Those stations are for requesting other items later.

[@81gamer81]

Had coffee to day have we? and lots of it

[@dominikvonlavante6113]

Nice greens plant, now do it another time for reds and another three times for blues 😜

[@Teck_1015]

Is there any reason Nilaus uses that particular 4x4 balancer and not the usual 'bow-tie' looking one?

[@JasonAWilliams-IS]

the bow tie one doesn't lane balance, but his does.

[@M_1024]

You don't need a lane balancer for train unloading though

[@JasonAWilliams-IS]

@M_1024 depends on the unloader.

[@JasonAWilliams-IS]

@@M_1024 But if you're going to have 1 balancer in your blueprint book, might as well have it be lane balanced too, right?

[@Slimefellaa]

I feel EM plants make copper wire faster than foundries no?

[@teridero1]

Quality tesla turrets are great on gleba

[@thatguyfrominvincible]

the top left two em-plants don't have inputs...

[@pierrereynaud784]

First! I was waiting for this video!

[@dpjinjo]

why don't you process the lava in another location and pipe the liquid metals instead of processing the lava locally? processing the lava elsewhere would allow you to manage the waste stone elsewhere as well

[@88porpoise]

Because that wouldn't make a nice, simple modular blueprint. This way, if he ever wants more of something he just stamps down his blueprint. Your way, he needs to stamp down his blueprint, then go check on his Iron/Copper and potentially expand that. Not saying you are wrong, but it isn't Nilaus' style

[@Hlebuw3k]

Why would you bother transporting all that plastic when you can make pretty much everything on Gleba 😅

[@AcaBaric90]

Is it Anubis or ANubis. Only a true expanse fan knows the difference 😅

[@warnerpaul]

Do you actually sleep, I've been playing along with you, few weeks behind just got the biter nest and then realised haven't researched level 3 Prod mods, gleba grinded to a halt all the green science has spoiled - ship keeps running out of ammo and with overloaded sushi belt - Fulgora is swamped with scrap and not enough space to manage - Nauvis is a mess as nothing is being used - there you are all organised and slapping down quality L3 prod mods already! Keep up the good work.

[@warnerpaul]

where do you even store everything? can you do a video on this?

[@submachinegun5737]

@@warnerpaulOn fulgora don’t store, throw away honestly, especially for the huge excess stone, ice and solid fuel. Overflow systems that have inserters that only activate when there’s too much stuff in a chest, and send that to recyclers to be voided. Scrap is so abundant that it doesn’t matter that you waste some

[@koenvanderrijt5244]

are you using my savegame ?

[@88porpoise]

Last night I solved my massive lockup where I switched to foundries on Nauvis to resolve my iron/copper shortage, but then I had one tile of my calcite belt out of roboport range not built so I stopped getting calcite in and had no iron or copper grinding everything to a halt. Meanwhile Gleba was dead having run out of spoilage. And Volcanus was relying on Nauvis and Gleba to supply Rocket fuel to export things at any useful speed so when I fixed the calcite it took forever for Volcanus rockets to launch and apparently had no chemical plant production to expand rocket fuel. I realized after that I have no idea why Fulgora wasn't supplying rocket fuel. I set it up to do so and then forgot about it.

[@lolmao500]

What about enough blue circuits

[@雪見だいふく-w4m]

Second!

[@ugthefluffster]

this series is kinda too slow tbh... I'm getting tired of 30 min episodes about automating a single basic product. when are you getting to the shattered planet man???

[@nublord5648]

From what i know about shattered planet it would be as much of an endgame as scaling up science production, which to say not as interesting as what he's doing rn (preping insane ammount of green/red/blue circus for quality upscaler)

[@cthulhu8977]

Just search YT for a shattered video since you care not for the journey. The rest of us are here for the well thought out builds along the way.