Massad Ayoob's In-Depth Look At The WCP365 X-MACRO Grip Module with Guy Joubert - Critical Mas Ep75

[@alexanderchung6402]

Heads up - Short dust cover version has got fit issues for kydex holsters.

[@fender_ketchup]

I ended up filing the sides of the triggerguard on mine to get it to fit my holsters

[@RatInCage-E102]

Why would you make the short dust cover version non compatible with most holsters? Trigger guard is like 50% thicker than the normal module, and the whole point of the short frame is to let you use your old stuff. Just make the short frame’s trig guard like the XL

[@Kaizergeld]

This should be at the top.

[@CF_2727]

Yeah this literally makes no sense to me. The whole purpose of the shorter macro grip module is so that u can use all of your prior mods for the standard p365 or x with the benefit of the longer grip and 17 round mag. He mentioned u can use all of your prior lights and holsters but there is no way that my TLR-6 light would work on this since it’s a direct mold for the width of the trigger guard of the p365xl grip module. Love Wilson combat stuff but this seems like a huge miss.

[@Terron35]

The Sig subreddit was full of guys getting them and them not working with any of their existing holsters. I was going to get one for my P365X before I saw all of those posts.

[@evans9748]

Actually the worst part is the SIG rail doesn't extend back past the trigger guard which means you can't use most lights like the TLR7 Sub on it 😂

[@Asidebar]

Wilson Combat perfected a better grip for the 365. No reason Wilson Combat should have the priority to make something to fit an aftermarket holster.. The Wilson Combat 365 grip is a huge improvement.

[@327Federal]

This is EXACTLY what XMACRO customers have been asking for!!

[@bobwilson758]

Right ! A Glock - awesome . Except $ 80 magazines ! Glock 17 rd. Mag. = $20 any color - OK !

[@corbindallas1954]

​@@bobwilson758 glock can't compete with size/ capacity on this one.

[@alexbello8053]

you can't compare a Chevy cavalier with a BMW 750 @@bobwilson758

[@bikeracerdude]

@@bobwilson758 The highest _commonly seen_ price on the 'net for 17 round p365 mags is SigSauer's webstore at $60 msrp, and I just ordered four from a known good supplier for $40 each on sale. That $80 you mentioned is a lie. Glock OEM gen5 mags have an average street price of about $24-25. Facts matter.

[@Asidebar]

@@bobwilson758 - 365 mags are Not $80. They are $49.

[@PaperSlayer93]

I'm happy that you guys came out with these grip modules, your hard work and dedication knocked it out of the park yet again. I always recommend Wilson Combat to everyone I know that has issues with their 1911, or in general. Thank you guys for providing the 2A community with quality products we can count on.

[@brad6054]

Love it I'm so glad you guys are doing stuff for the p365

[@raifcluster]

WC P365 grip module made all the difference in the world on both my X and XL. I'm ready for an X-Macro g-module!

[@Asidebar]

Agree the Wilson Combat grip is fantastic. A much needed improvement.

[@jardinero9112]

I put my xl slide with a Holoson 507k, on my x macro. That set up for me is on point.

[@Llando88]

Thanks Mas, good info as always. I found the palm swells much too pronounced, and the surface texture extremely slippery. Cleaning them with alcohol did not help. The rear Backstrap was too ‘pointy’, and I believe this was why the gun was very squirmy to shoot, for me. The edge of the trigger guard dug sharply into my index finger knuckle when shooting. Based on grip circumference, mine sized between S and M, compared to the Sig Macro grip module. The lack of replaceable back straps on the Wilson was a miss for those with larger hands, unfortunately. I was very surprised by multiple reports of magazines not dropping free, and frequent mention of holster fit issues, especially with such a long development time on this product. Overall, I was very disappointed with this purchase, as compared to my Wilson P365XL grip module, which was excellent.

[@Asidebar]

The Wilson Combat grip is perfection it is not slippery at all.

[@LouC518]

I just got one of these Wilson xmacro grip modules in fde, love it and it tightened up the frame to slide fit. Excellent quality and feel! Thanks Wilson Combat for an excellent product!!!👍

[@jeffmurphy9987]

I’m curious how this tightened up the frame to slide fit when the grip module has nothing to do with the fit. The slide rides on the FCU only not the grip module.

[@willlowery84]

I remember bringing up these exact holster and light issues with the macro modules to Mr. Wilson and the other WC guys at NRAAM. I am telling myself that I deserve some of the credit for y’all coming out with this awesome product. 😅

[@jeffmurphy9987]

Thanks now you got credit

[@HeyItsLonnie]

Woke up, saw this, and went right to Wilson combat for the purchase. I've been waiting for this since the week I bought my x macro 🎉

[@ke3552]

Thanks guys & thanks Wilson Combat. @Massad Ayoob @Wilson Combat The mag wells on the two XMacro grip modules that I received are definitely tighter than the mag wells on the two Sig XMacro grip modules that I've been running for a while. With a sample size of three Sig XMacro 17rd magazines & two WC XMacro grip modules, one drops free as I've been accustomed to. One requires a much more deliberate activation of the mag release to drop free. The third magazine has to be pulled or shaken from the mag well.

[@outtasight5457]

Started following Massad's writings in the early 90's as a young professional. Still at it and still relevant! Thanks, Massad.

[@teslabolt007]

Ordered mine for the Macro - can’t wait!

[@scottyroberson7340]

Love mine!! Makes a big difference on grip. Easy install.

[@earltaylor1056]

I bought one of each size the first day they were available. Love it!

[@orangetactical]

I can't wait to get both of these. I love my Wilson Combat grip on P365X and my 320.

[@Intoxacajun]

Thank You Wilson!! Great value!! Have the P365 and XL modules and love the versatility it allows me with my pistols but they are priced very competitively. Also put one on my 320 and find they all improve shooting. Makes good shooting pistols great shooting pistols. Ya'll killed it!!

[@httcpham717]

Love the wilson combat x macro frame its a little wider on the side but they put little groves to make the feel perfect!

[@TheReasonableSkeptic-ii4te]

Thanks, Wilson Combat, for selling guns to good guys and bad guys. 👍👍👍

[@TheReasonableSkeptic-ii4te]

@TH4.W4TCH4 Wow. Interesting point. It's crazy how bad guys in the US can easily get a lot of really great guns.

[@geralddeas2303]

One other advantage of the module is that they give closer to a 1911 grip and angle. Similar to the EDC x9

[@t.c.2527]

Home run guys. Thanks for the info.

[@patwalsh2868]

Thanks guys , I’m excited to get a Wilson Combat grip for the Sig P365 X Macro TacOps , that I’ll be buying next week !!! Massad your Awesome !!!!💥💥🔫from Commy Ct 🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@RFK579]

LOVE the looks and feel of this module. The short version works with any of my slide assemblies X/XL/Spectre Comp. I was hoping that it would fit my X/XL holsters but it’s a no go in the one’s I’ve tried. Tier ! Echo, Vedder Light tuck , Upper Hand OWB . Galco Classic Lite shoulder holster. It does fit my X Macro holsters. But I was really hoping it. Would work in the others, especially the Galco Classic Lite shoulder holster as they don’t offer a version for the X Macro. I ended up switching back to my WC XL module which I also love.

[@DerWaidmann_]

If you wanted the short dust cover version to fit in old holsters why the hell didn't you use the older trigger guard too?

[@matthewcrisp2488]

Any idea when we might get a manual safety version?

[@jamesfynnhere6983]

And magwell compatibility, the grip is too small for very big hands without it.

[@personaljesus000]

read the literature on their website, they tell you to cut the safety slot out yourself

[@ttattx]

I saw a Macro TacOps in the used case at my LGS with a rds on it, for 799... I'm going back tonight to pick it up... I like it better than my SS MR920 for CC

[@jeffmurphy9987]

750 new at Buds Gunshop

[@michaelphillips5786]

Like to see WC offer matching magazine base plates for the p365 series...I think there is a market for that..👍

[@фредерикмиз]

Mr Massed Ayoob👍

[@DE-ef3xd]

An alloy frame would be wonderful.

[@charliemke]

finally its out :) mine is already on its way can't wait to see how it compares to the 320 module

[@Northcoastwrench]

Already have mine. I love it

[@tylerrodriguez9233]

Awesome! Please make an SFX10 next!!!

[@ryant1450]

thats funny, one of the next 3 guns im getting is the P365X, nice video!

[@jimscallen6452]

Very informative video.

[@XrayMike17plus1]

Picked up a tan version of the X-Macro for use with a TacOps slide. Doubt it would work with a Sig or aftermarket mag-well due to somewhat flared shape. Nota big deal for me but may be an issue if one tries to add a magwell. Bought it with the tungsten weight kit, which enhances the balance IMO. FWIW, Tactical Development's aluminum flat basepad works pretty well with this and is now available in a FDE-ish color that matches Wilson's 'tan' grip modules pretty well.

[@Miklo1017]

Still waiting on a restock for the p365xl Manual safety version of your modules.

[@muratcharles9835]

Great stuff

[@WilliamSirman]

Massad doesn't have that "Kid in a Candy Store" look, that he has whist he fondles other more traditional handguns! I think the Sig 365 is in the C.B.F.I.H.H. Category in regard to Massad! Oh! "Cannot be found in his holster!" Great Video!

[@jason_dkke]

Just got the xmacro short grip module for my p365 standard. Works perfectly, just need new holster

[@learningone7786]

When will they be back in stock?

[@citizenresponse]

It’s a shame the 365 rail version doesn’t fit in normal 365xl holsters

[@rarfg7570]

Does Wilson Combat plan to release a grip mod with a cutout for the manual safety models of the macro?

[@joshuaabren]

I wish you made the grip module so it would accept flared magwells.

[@365xmacronocomp]

I got the 365x macro and the 365 XL I absolutely love those guns although I have to have the 17 round mag in the XL to carry it and pull it and draw it comfortably I love both guns but I'm going to have to try one of these I have yet to try one of the Wilson combats 2550 rounds through the macro 1730 through the xl absolutely no malfunctions great guns

[@adventurfly879]

You guys need to to a thin model too. One of the big selling points is how thin they are which makes them easy to conceal. You should have another option that stays true to that. I love your grips but they definitely print more

[@timtaylor1483]

I guarantee Sig has one coming soon I prefer the thinner grip.

[@adventurfly879]

@timtaylor1483 it's the entire point of the gun. The wilson grips are great if this is a range gun or home defense but they aren't great for this guns real purpose which is edc.

[@garytucholl7699]

I’ve pocket carried a 365 with the Wilson Combat XL module and it doesn’t print any more than the factory one. Before the WC I pocket carried the stock 365 with 12-round mag and it wasn’t noticeable at all. These are fine for concealed carry…

[@tonybrown5425]

@@adventurfly879…. People cc full size guns and you’re moaning about millimeters added to an already invisible gun. The xl grip module doesn’t make the gun a hand cannon all of a sudden dude.

[@adventurfly879]

@tonybrown5425 it's a half inch wider. And I'm in shape so it shows. I'm sure you pot bellies it doesn't make that big of a difference but with a flat stomach almost anything prints. You want to carry a full size gun like you will be in a gun battle any day now I'm sure then go ahead. But actually fully concealing mine is way more important. I actually work. I don't sit behind a desk with a beer gut bruh. And I know you ain't in shape because I just know. And that's a fact.

[@brettblack7049]

Could someone explain to me what it would take to set something up like at 3:50 what module an is it a 320 or a 365. I like the feel of a Springfield, but don't prefer the glocks, how would this compare. Thanks.

[@Steeles240]

I want the opposite route. X frame for the 12rd mag with the macro dust cover/pic rail.

[@markshane2686]

Will Wilson Combat release a grip mod with a cutout for the manual safety on the the Sig macro? I prefer a manual safety on Sig pistols.

[@Philmoscowitz]

Will Wilson Combat be coming out with a manual safety version of the X-Macro module?

[@NordicViking88]

P365xl with 1913 rail please

[@jrshort138]

Yes, please, please!

[@dt8694]

Please make an aluminum Wilson combat frame!!

[@garytucholl7699]

I have two X macros, one with the short rail version and one the 1913 rail. I need a WC module for my 365 X and they’re out of stock everywhere. When will they be coming available again?

[@ghostfitness5605]

Well you are right. I bought two x versions so I can carry with my original holsters.

[@googoo-gjoob]

will there be a complete collaboration WCP 365 X-Macro gun?

[@MichaelSchwab-nk4rm]

Awezome. So whens it gonna be available?

[@Chir5t]

Interested in this grip module and the Icarus Precision model. Is it wise to modify your grip/frame on your EDC? How/could it hurt you in court?

[@leonardoxendine2199]

Any time line for the complete wcp365 xmacro action tuned version? Thanks

[@sdr28170]

Great question.

[@fdt3000]

It’s out now but the cost is going into Staccato territory…..$2300!

[@ke3552]

The two Wilson Combat XMacro Grip Modules that I purchased would only function properly with one of five Sig OEM 17rd XMacro magazines that I tried. They would not drop free (empty to fully loaded) with either of the two WC XMacro grip modules. I sent both of them back and was issued a refund. Those same five magazines have always functioned as designed in multiple P365-family grip modules.

[@PapaD93]

1 month later and still waiting for mine…

[@jasunto]

I have an original P365 that I swapped in the trigger and 12rd grip module from an XL model and left the top short and stock and basically made a P365X before it existed. Can i convert it into an XMacro model by getting the wilson combat XMacro grip module (or factory Xmacro grip module) plus a whole Xmacro slide assembly complete and just use my FCU with it? Curious if the P365 FCU is consistent across the whole model range. This saves me from going to a gun shop and all of the paperwork, but possibly may not be cost effective unless I buy them used from gunbroker.

[@ghostgunholster6957]

Guy is my guy ❤

[@DLW23940]

Do these have the spaces for the grip weights?

[@CenlaSelfDefenseConcepts]

Unfortunately according to henry holsters the short grip module has the same trigger guard as the macro snd the dust cover dimensions are different so the short grip frame will not fit a P365 holster

[@JohnWicksPencil14]

Only thing I don't like is the notch for the safety. The XL version does not have it, I don't see why you'd put it on the macro version. Messes up the aesthetics of the module.

[@JeffHailstone-kt7qp]

How much do you charge in labor to install the new trigger and the new body I'm definitely interested, I would have to go through the FFL to ship it to you?

[@levanbasiladze4812]

Greetings. Guys, please share any ideas regarding compatibility of Sig p365 AXG Legion slide and WC x macro grip module. Thanks

[@ghostfitness5605]

The macro version for p365 sized pistol did not fit my holster as well. I had to modify and sand it down to fit. To me it was worth it but wish I didn’t have to do that.

[@JoeO.]

Strong work; this is the video we should have got previously. Now all you gotta do is fix the incorrectly hung American flag on the wall…

[@ericracz4230]

So I have one of the old school original P365 (original model with curved trigger) and I want a larger grip, 1913 rail and larger capacity. Which new grip module will fit on the short original size (mini) slide? Thanks!

[@757Lazzzerrr]

For you tlr6 guys, you're going to have to retro fit the module. The trigger guard up to the rail will need to be worked down.

[@jtmccook7505]

Would love to see a macro grip module with a safety option for us Californians that just got the xmacro on our gun roster.

[@madddvillain]

on your website it says it’s not compatible with ca models, is that only because of the safety and magazine disconnect? if modified to regular spec it will fit right?

[@ILikeCheeseOnBees]

So this grip module will fit 17 round mags? And the short one will fit a regular p365 slide?

[@BlueForte]

Anyone know where to get a leather holster for this?

[@watchyoutube9553]

Wondering if the echelon next

[@EvRyDayCarry]

I converted my 365x into a Macro by cutting a little off the pic rail area , now I got a 17rd 365x

[@Daisygirl05Jan23]

Another great product by Wilson Combat but if I was you, I would save your money and get an SFX.

[@jdmznet]

I'd be first in line to buy one, but I bought a P365 with a manual safety and those seem to get short shrift. Is it easy to file out the slot for the manual safety?

[@mcmehlen]

Do you have magazine grip sleeves to make 17 round mags flush with the XL grip?

[@Oink-0987]

Can you put a x macro slide on a xl grip module?

[@jamesdelong6401]

Very cool

[@grady719]

Can we please get an XTEN Grip Module please?

[@jaredshupe9769]

Will Wilson Combat make a X-Ten or X-Ten Comp grip module in the future?

[@Terron35]

When I emailed them about an X-Ten grip module they told me they had no plans to make one

[@unclemike5840]

Howdy , for the rhythm

[@markbutler3241]

I like the way this grip module feels, however I don't like the fact that my mags do not drop free. I have assembled and reassemble twice. Mag catch is where it's supposed to be, it's just that apparently the mag funnel is just too tight

[@freightshakerclassicxl2728]

I wish you guys would sell your slides separately.. for the 375xl and macros .. no ones gonna pay 1600$ for a sig 365Xl lol illl go get mine engraved if I cared that much but it would be nice if you could just sell those individually but I dunno just my opinion anyways .. also what about a ported option ??

[@kaa_man]

Love Wilson guns but unfortunately can't afford them. Maybe some day... for now just keep track of Wilson's product's.

[@edwardnelson3304]

What's he talking about when he says dust cover?

[@ronevans852]

I’ve been looking at your guns looks like very well made.im retired officer have been Glock for years. Time to buy something different.

[@DjTumbao]

Love it

[@shawnbrockman9729]

There have been multiple sitings of problems with the Macro wc grip module. This time I'll stay away.

[@mrbillyjackson]

Yep. Finally got to the range yesterday to test mine and it was fine. But lotta problems for others. WC dropped some ball somewhere.

[@ghostgunholster6957]

If you replace a standard P365 module with the XL module you'll need 12rd mags with the correct floor plate.

[@DennyBass]

FINALLY!!!!!

[@aidenbanning7177]

I'd like to see one for the x ten

[@AnthonyPavone-oi8xo]

I would like to buy a Wilson Combat SigP365 XMacro as a carry pistol, and will wear it with a round chambered. Sig offers this pistol with a thumb safety that I want. Can I order the WCP with the thumb safety? Tony Pavone

[@mikeharvey9184]

Any chance of releasing an XL module with the X-Macro dust cover (full pic rail)? Some of us live in less free states and can't get the 17 round magazines.

[@mountainguide7]

Guy is a box of rocks

[@theweebcurrentlyknownaszec2232]

really wish there was a manual safety one

[@Sosaparks]

Am I the only one hoping for an xl size frame with the macro rail/ trigger guard, without having to chop a macro frame or pay 400 bones for an aluminum module from Icarus? Maybe I’m the weirdo, but I’d love to be able to size my xmacro down to an xl for summer and only need one holster pattern, and/ or one light