Massage Tutorial: Myofascial release for IT band pain

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Massage Sloth

Massage Sloth

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@Elegantchoco-lit
@Elegantchoco-lit 5 жыл бұрын
I wish you could be my mentor! You’re sooo knowledgable I’ve been a licensed massage therapist for four years now. It’s such amazing work I can’t believe how much I love it. It’s never ending information in this line of work.
@lusrinu
@lusrinu 9 жыл бұрын
i followed this technique and it got resolved in 1 HOUR. great video. you published this information freely on youtube. you are god on earth
@scottiusnevious4838
@scottiusnevious4838 Ай бұрын
And you are going to hell for that comment lmao
@barbaraann7610
@barbaraann7610 8 жыл бұрын
I have been to at least 30 massage therapists, 10 physical therapists, and 12 MFR experts. You outshine them all!
@johny19851
@johny19851 9 жыл бұрын
man you are great that you sharing all your knowledge in those fantastic videos...i almost saw them all...helping me to improve my technique and i learned a lot from you! usually people want to sell their cd's or make money. Knowledge should be free ! One day you teacher, next day you student. We need to share and help each other.... i hope karma gets back to you very soon! All the best
@MassageSloth
@MassageSloth 9 жыл бұрын
+janka bananka Thanks so much! I agree, the more we share, the more we all benefit. Though I may sell some stuff one of these days :) Cheers
@barbaraann7610
@barbaraann7610 8 жыл бұрын
Just did the first half of this on myself and the leg feels almost free! It's been killing me for 2 weeks. Knee pain and hip pain, painful to walk; and now it's going away. How can I thank you, Mr. Harvey?
@Vintagea88
@Vintagea88 4 ай бұрын
This has been helpful and informative, and I also appreciate the level of professionalism.
@Vintagea88
@Vintagea88 4 ай бұрын
P.S. I need this badly, how can I do these techniques on myself?
@MassageSloth
@MassageSloth 4 ай бұрын
If you were to implement some brief daily foam rolling of the legs and hips, I think you'd likely get some benefit! I talk about this here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y4qbZ4d5jbCGb9k (the main tip is to be nice as you do so, and to limit the time and intensity rather than trying to tenderize yourself). A bit of daily muscle mashing can be quite useful, as can a little bit of stretching after. In all things, be kind to yourself.
@Vintagea88
@Vintagea88 4 ай бұрын
@@MassageSloth Thank you so much! Runners love self torture, I appreciate the reminder to be kind to myself. I’m headed to that link right now!
@ianprescott7579
@ianprescott7579 5 жыл бұрын
Brilliant very informative video... taught at the right speed (for me) perfect for my learning. Thank you Ian
@MassageSloth
@MassageSloth 5 жыл бұрын
I appreciate it, other Ian!
@LoveLove-lm2wz
@LoveLove-lm2wz 9 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I have already been to a Medical Doctor and Chiropractor. They do not understand. I purchased a knotted foam roller and have been using a rolling pin. They both seem to be helping. Pain has subsided but top of knee is still numb. Have a good weekend!
@gstone1345
@gstone1345 9 жыл бұрын
Nice upload. Thanks for video, it answered a few questions i have had about my legs from cycling
@mainettizak
@mainettizak 9 жыл бұрын
wow this is awesome, the out side of my knee have been hurting for 5 days, and it kept getting worse as I continued to work, going up and down the stairs, I spent the whole weekend sitting in the couch hoping that the pain would go away, until I decided to look for an answer, I massaged myself sitting in the chair and by the and of the video I felt no pain, thanks allot!
@NOBODY-ws3ui
@NOBODY-ws3ui 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ian for the information on how to sooth this on going pain.
@purerelaxation2011
@purerelaxation2011 5 жыл бұрын
Those are the exact techniques I use on my clients. I would love a massage from you!
@juditibarrolamoreno8683
@juditibarrolamoreno8683 11 ай бұрын
I love your sensitive work. Thank's for sharing
@margaretcooper6145
@margaretcooper6145 8 жыл бұрын
Hi Ian, thanks for the great videos and presentation, so very informative. Can you please give some ideas about how you work with hairy body parts without creating too much drag and discomfort?
@alohaleslie9407
@alohaleslie9407 8 жыл бұрын
Aloha! As a runner/massage therapist, I've noticed that if I have low back pain located near my SI joint that I can't resolve with my usual stretching methods, I will lie supine, and medially/laterally rock my femur while simultaneously placing my thumb over over the ASIS/TFL area. Pain is gone almost immediately. Great techniques!!!! :)))
@MassageSloth
@MassageSloth 8 жыл бұрын
+Aloha Leslie Ooh, nice tip Leslie! I appreciate the comments and insight :)
@marion8085
@marion8085 10 жыл бұрын
Fabulous videos TY for sharing! You are a true caring lmt
@candicesirju551
@candicesirju551 7 жыл бұрын
wow ... this is exactly what i am dealing with right now ... wish i could find a massage therapist in my country that can do exactly this for me :) ty for sharing
@khaliac2699
@khaliac2699 3 жыл бұрын
So you would flick the tfl off of vastus lateralis? Not sure if I’m referring to a different treatment or not 🙄
@cherylbochniewicz4128
@cherylbochniewicz4128 8 жыл бұрын
Ian - you are a very gifted teacher. Thank you! Perhaps a silly question, but did you apply any oil? I'm assuming not but wanted to confirm. Also, those with hair (such as men). What's the best way to do this work? I, obviously, do not want to pull hair! Apply a tiny bit of oil or lotion as needed? I'm very excited to watch your other videos. Thank you!
@jennmcg4068
@jennmcg4068 6 жыл бұрын
Absolutely Amazing video! I love how clear and detailed you teach! Thank you for your expertise in all things Massage!
@touemma2399
@touemma2399 8 жыл бұрын
I learned a lot from yr video thanks for sharing yr knowledge
@TheLaszlo5876
@TheLaszlo5876 10 жыл бұрын
I'm paying little over $ 14000 for my second year for the so called advanced techniques program and I can tell you that those teachers are not even coming close to this guy .. ! Just sayin....
@jaketoffen2454
@jaketoffen2454 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a rip off...
@TheJpep2424
@TheJpep2424 3 ай бұрын
Sounds like you responded to a 6 year old comment.
@scottiusnevious4838
@scottiusnevious4838 Ай бұрын
Money well spent it sounds like…
@jjuxe3338
@jjuxe3338 8 жыл бұрын
First of all I'm a huge fan.... 'cause you're awesome.. obviously. I was wondering if it might not be a good idea to only work proximal to distal on the IT band. there just doesn't seem to be much going on in the way of blood supply at that distal attachment so working distal to proximal seems like it would add more stress to that already stressed tendon attachment. ?? Just a theory. Had it for years and just was hoping I haven't been cheating any clients by it. Thanks again for all your help! You do have a gift for teaching well my friend!
@amicon1950
@amicon1950 8 жыл бұрын
Brilliant, thank you.
@jaminhostetler2471
@jaminhostetler2471 2 жыл бұрын
your videos are stellar !! keep it up !
@mainettizak
@mainettizak 9 жыл бұрын
Hi, I've been feeling tingling on my upper back for a few years now, my doctor said it would go away, it does but it always come back, please let me know if there's a massage the can help, thanks.
@MassageSloth
@MassageSloth 9 жыл бұрын
mainettizak Massage may be able to help! I know it's strange, but there's no specific technique that I recommend for back pain (or nerve sensation, etc). Some massage therapists claim to be able to "break up knots," break adhesions, deactivate trigger points, etc., but I think all of that is overblown. Just look for a massage therapist who knows the body, and who can communicate in such a way that you are comfortable at all times. It may take several sessions, but massage is good for calming the nervous system and reducing inflammation. It's certainly worth a try. Best of luck!
@onedirection3510
@onedirection3510 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent work! On point, intelligent and clearly explained. 👍 Personally I cannot relate to doing massage in almost business casual attire (especially a few clients in a row) but to each his own lol!
@Deerector
@Deerector 10 жыл бұрын
Great video Ian. Thanks.
@msbt3
@msbt3 10 жыл бұрын
Loved the video! Great techniques!
@delilaha
@delilaha 10 жыл бұрын
ROCK THE LEG!! :D Seriously though, this is great. I wrecked my IT band in a mosh pit in '09. I can now tell you if it's going to rain because it acts up when the air pressure changes. I swear! It also acts up if I walk a lot. If it keeps acting up, do you think that maybe I just walk funny? My left leg is a little bigger than the right one. O.o
@Chydova
@Chydova 10 ай бұрын
What are other suggestions if you don't habebtgat relationship with the client, what would you do instead of placings your knee on their foot?
@SR-dy5zm
@SR-dy5zm 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent stuff. Thank you so much for the helpful information!
@the_adventurershub
@the_adventurershub 7 жыл бұрын
I have IT band syndrome past 1yr. It's very stubborn and tried many exercises still couldn't get any relief and I stay alone could you please tell me some techniques how to massage the IT band by yourself?
@michellehorner2879
@michellehorner2879 4 жыл бұрын
I just found your channel amd have only been practicing massage therapy for 2 years, so thank you for your videos. Also I am looking for some guidance on massage techniques for a client with Spastic Cerebral Palsy with a right arm contracture.
@MassageSloth
@MassageSloth 4 жыл бұрын
Mostly realize that your client's arm contracture is mediated both by structural and functional elements (see this study for a good review: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4258234/ ), with nervous system differences leading the way. In other words, don't think about trying to break down scar tissue or changing the structure of the arm; it is bound up by tight muscle and collagen, yes, but it wound up that way due to hyperactive stretch reflexes that are still present, and which will be resistant to change. So, my recommendation here is to work with the arm in a way that mobilizes the joints and tissue in ways that are comfortable and that will provide new stimuli that aren't likely to occur during your client's day to day life. This might mean very minimal movements in order to avoid provoking a pain or spasm response, with gentle rocking and squeezing of the hand, forearm, and upper arm, and shoulder. This might seem like too little to have a "real effect," but realize that these tissues have been mostly contracted and isolated for many years, and new stimulus to the local tissue and new information for the spinal cord to consider might be enough to allow an appreciable drop in resting tone and increase in tissue perfusion. Even without that, regular interaction could help resolve discomfort by damping down sensitivity, even if nothing changes about the tissue at all. Let your client lead the way, let them tell you what has worked in the past and give you ideas for what you might try, and realize that the area might be emotionally fraught as well; be sensitive to any feelings of protectiveness or alienation that your client might have toward their arm. That's not something for us to fix, but it can be something to keep in mind and honor as we work with a rarely touched part of the body. Let me know if that helped and if you have any other questions!
@donjamesanderson
@donjamesanderson 3 жыл бұрын
Great instructional video.
@pattyjones3211
@pattyjones3211 8 жыл бұрын
Can this treatment be done after a Total Hip Replacement? I am 8 months post-op and still having terrible pain in the gluteus min and medius region. It feels like my muscles are contracting and shortening my leg.
@MassageSloth
@MassageSloth 8 жыл бұрын
Hi Patty, it definitely can. You may have slightly different range of motion than other people (your ability to rotate your hip while your leg is bent may be different, for instance), but your massage therapist can still work with the muscles that cross your hip joint while changing the angle of your femur. Your best bet might be to look for experienced massage therapists who have worked with a total hip replacement or two, so ask around before committing. Best of luck!
@pattyjones3211
@pattyjones3211 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you 😊
@reginasliuzas6480
@reginasliuzas6480 3 жыл бұрын
Very clear and helpful.
@kathymaclaren2711
@kathymaclaren2711 2 жыл бұрын
Sometimes when the client is prone, and the hip is externally rotated, the same side ilium will lift off the table.. What strokes would you use for that and what causes it?
@michaelanthonyz
@michaelanthonyz 9 жыл бұрын
I have Multiple Sclerosis and the symptoms of ITB syndrome. An MD orthopedic surgeon diagnosed ITB in a 3 minute office visit. I have tried botox and cortisone injections. Your video is helpful when my husband follows it exxactly but the pain relief only lasts a short while. I have never been a sports person or a runner. Do you know anyone like me? What would you do for them? What kind of doctor would you recommend for someone like me? Thanks Judy
@reneedufresne553
@reneedufresne553 9 жыл бұрын
I love the techniques, however it would be nice to see a online tutorial with a real size person....man large person. Those are the knees that are difficult to massage.Thank you
@MassageSloth
@MassageSloth 9 жыл бұрын
+renee dufresne I'll definitely keep this in mind for the future! When I say, "this is my friend so-and-so" at the beginning, I mean it :) These are my fellow massage therapists and grad students, so I take what I can get. I'll certainly keep an eye toward diversity in the future.
@johnnybrown4052
@johnnybrown4052 6 жыл бұрын
Ur the best brother
@brodygoalie
@brodygoalie 8 жыл бұрын
If I were to get a cortisone shot to a very tight TFL due to very bad pain-exactly where should the shot go into?? THX
@MassageSloth
@MassageSloth 8 жыл бұрын
+brodygoalie I'm afraid this is outside of my scope of practice as a massage therapist. A medical doctor would be able to evaluate you and refer you properly. Best of luck!
@brodygoalie
@brodygoalie 8 жыл бұрын
+Massage Sloth Do you have another vid for the massage of the TFL or is this Vid the best on the TFL?? My TFL is very tight causing lower back pain plus my IT band is very tight and stiffness in my outer left knee too!! THX
@michaeldooley5331
@michaeldooley5331 9 жыл бұрын
Ian, please tell me your opinion on starting strokes from the sit bone going distally. I get much more leverage going downhill and my old shoulder is happier. Thanks!
@MassageSloth
@MassageSloth 9 жыл бұрын
Michael Dooley It is forbidden!! Going away from the heart?! Their leg will explode! :-) But seriously, I say go for it. It might be wise to take it easy with proximal-to-distal strokes in clients with a compromised circulatory system (lots of varicosities, easy bruising, edema), but a bit of distal pressure is something that most vasculature can handle easily. Structural integration types do it all the time without provoking jets of arterial spray. In fact, man... getting work down from the ischial tuberosity probably feels really good. Now I want a massage.
@michaeldooley5331
@michaeldooley5331 9 жыл бұрын
I am really happy now!
@barbaraann7610
@barbaraann7610 8 жыл бұрын
You are awesome! Where are you? I need a massage therapist like you!
@ryans1577
@ryans1577 9 жыл бұрын
My left patellar tendon has been 'pushed in' horizontally backwards; because i used to sit with my knee flush up against the metal bar of a table, pushing it in. If i think of moving my knee, or extend then retract, over and over, I can feel pressure build up in the knee, then it will pop. no pain though. I think my knee is unstable; how would i go about 'pushing' the patellar tendon back to where it should be?
@MassageSloth
@MassageSloth 9 жыл бұрын
+Ryan Sell I know of no manipulation techniques that can change how the patella tracks. I'd recommend seeing a doctor for evaluation. In the mean time, using a knee brace while you work out (or any time that you feel knee instability during the day) is a safe self-treatment strategy that may relieve some of your discomfort. Best of luck!
@ryans1577
@ryans1577 9 жыл бұрын
If you have never heard of Ido Portal, i recommend going to IdoPortal.com, he would probably shun you for speaking about a knee brace. My knee is not unstable, but it could be, I don't feel my knee give out or anything like that, it just feels tight, on occasion, and when I extend all the way, and then retract, back and forth, then the internal knee would pop, and I would have a sense of relief, no pain though.
@MassageSloth
@MassageSloth 9 жыл бұрын
+Ryan Sell I've always been a fan of compression for joint dysfunction/pain, but I'm not about to argue with a guy who trains Conor McGregor :) If your symptoms increase or interfere with your life, I do think that medical evaluation would be your best bet.
@ryans1577
@ryans1577 9 жыл бұрын
+Massage Sloth okay I said in my original comment my knee is unstable. but that is just an assumption. I used to press my knee against the desks back in high school. my leg itself gave out on me when I got up out of bed to walk. literally just bent as it normally would. I tried to get up and it wouldn't let me. but that was 5+ years ago and the only time it happened. I just think my meniscus is very thin, I can feel my knee move internally even with a microinch of movement. If that makes sense. I will focus on the muscles/IT band etc above the knee and get back to you ;)
@cesargarcia4129
@cesargarcia4129 6 жыл бұрын
Great knowledge, nice technique. Thank you.!
@sativadva
@sativadva 6 жыл бұрын
7:05 could you also (instead of anchoring your elbows) apply your weight with stacked joints? I do this and get very positive feedback and responses... but I do have pain with my lower back--I think due to daily life activities--and I'm trying to apply the most beneficial body mechanics as possible. P. S. Ty for this one lesson. My mom has been experience IT pain and I've been working with her to get it under control :)
@MassageSloth
@MassageSloth 6 жыл бұрын
That variation sounds great! One thing to keep in mind when you're using straight limbs is to stay mindful of how you stand up at the end of any given technique. For instance, if you're sinking to either side of the quad, how do you get back to the start of that move? If you're using your low back as a crane to straighten, sink, straighten, sink, that could quickly add up to low back / hip fatigue. Not a bad thing in itself, but it can add up over the course of 5 massages. Look at ways you can instead move your hips: Once you sink to the end of a move, can you shift your hips back under you before you stand up? Instead of bending at the waist to sink into the move, can you go into a deeper squat or lunge? (I know it's hard to immediately apply these vague ideas, but just keep it in mind as you work and you'll find places for them). Hit us up on the forums if you'd like to consult the group! facebook.com/groups/1793289647583837/ Oh, and kudos for helping your dear mum!
@KathleenHelenLisson
@KathleenHelenLisson 8 жыл бұрын
Awesome! thanks!
@beaya3165
@beaya3165 8 жыл бұрын
Why did you do the tapotement over the sheets and should I do tapotement mostly on more athletic clients?.And should it be over the sheets? I do it after each massage on each sections. I wish I could give myself a massage just to get an idea of whats actually working for me.. I've had a client/ friend that told me it was her least favorite part of the massage. She was in her 60's i didn't do it very hard. I'm always afraid to hurt people... i can use some tapotement right now to be honest.
@beaya3165
@beaya3165 8 жыл бұрын
i just read the above msg lol... sorry
@MassageSloth
@MassageSloth 8 жыл бұрын
I do typically reserve tapotement for my more active clients. They seem to appreciate vigorous movement more than most people, and they care less about things being quiet and soothing (my athletes get more movement and brisk contact). For clients primarily interested in relaxation, I may do a little tapotement on the back before I flip them, but not typically. It feels great, but it can feel a little jarring, and it can interrupt the "flow," so to speak. You may want to experiment with just doing compressions through the sheet to end each region, or just moving on. By the way, there are many experienced massage therapists that would think I'm insane for not doing tapotement on everyone :) This is a matter of personal taste. Oh! And the reason I do it through the sheet is just so it sounds less slappy. No good reason for it.
@beaya3165
@beaya3165 8 жыл бұрын
Oh lol less slappy is that the technical term for it?.. Just joking with you. Thank you for the advice now that you've said it i can very much see that making more sense. I am probably making the mistake of doing to my client what I am feeling like what i need at the juncture on myself... Or I'm just following the motions of how I was taught 3 different types of massage before I move on. I will follow your lead. 🙊
@beaya3165
@beaya3165 8 жыл бұрын
Oh lol less slappy is that the technical term for it?.. Just joking with you. Thank you for the advice now that you've said it i can very much see that making more sense. I am probably making the mistake of doing to my client what I am feeling like what i need at the juncture on myself... Or I'm just following the motions of how I was taught 3 different types of massage before I move on. I will follow your lead. 🙊
@marandabest8196
@marandabest8196 7 жыл бұрын
Can the IT Band be an issue in Fibromyalgia patients? The same area you are referring to in this video burns so bad all the time. It's also sore all the time. The reason I'm asking is because I really need to find the right massage therapist/massage for me.
@MassageSloth
@MassageSloth 7 жыл бұрын
It certainly can. One defining characteristic of fibromyalgia is heightened sensitivity to pain and touch, and there's no reason why the IT band region wouldn't join the party. As I say in the video, my main suspect is the hips/butt region, so try to find a massage therapist who is well-versed in working with the area. Especially when it comes to working with fibromyalgia pain, my strategy is always slow, gentle work, over the course of many sessions. This sensitivity took a long time to develop, so it won't be going anywhere in a single session. I say shoot emails to all the promising massage therapists in your area, ask if they're familiar with fibromyalgia, whether they can work gently, and if they know how to work with the gluteal region thoroughly. You might still have to do some trial and error, but hopefully someone will respond with "I love working with fibromyalgia symptoms, and the hips are my specialty!"
@beenah25
@beenah25 8 жыл бұрын
HI Ian. I love your videos, super informative and I love how you have videos for different problem areas. I just have one question. Is there a reason why you don't use any oil/lotion?
@MassageSloth
@MassageSloth 8 жыл бұрын
I actually use a small amount of jojoba oil (just enough to give me some glide when I want to move slowly, a bit more when I want to speed up), I'm just terrible at pointing that out in my videos! Thanks for the kind words :)
@ernakovary4745
@ernakovary4745 8 жыл бұрын
Hi, Ian! This video is very helpful as I have a client similar to your friend Summer who is training for half-marathon then eventually will go for the full one. May I ask you an unrelated question re De Quervain Syndrome. What type of treatment/exercise do you recommend for someone who is in pain and lost full range of motion, strength of the wrist. I would appreciate any help you can provide!
@vice8063
@vice8063 8 жыл бұрын
I need you in my life! great video oxoxo
@alexanderkenniethbam
@alexanderkenniethbam 5 жыл бұрын
Fantastic!
@itrazavaleta5441
@itrazavaleta5441 6 жыл бұрын
Would you also work on the lower back like the QL or erectors ?
@MassageSloth
@MassageSloth 6 жыл бұрын
It couldn't hurt! When the IT band is sensitive/painful, there's usually a lot going on in the hips. When there's stuff going on with the hips, there can be low back involvement. So definitely worth asking about and including.
@itrazavaleta5441
@itrazavaleta5441 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the reply !! Appreciate it !!
@nataliebuckhout4768
@nataliebuckhout4768 3 ай бұрын
Are you using any oil?
@MassageSloth
@MassageSloth 3 ай бұрын
Ope, this was back when I often forgot to discuss that. If you see me gliding slowly, there's almost certainly some jojoba oil spread over the skin. Less will make you move slower, more will get you moving more like Swedish (and both are great in their own way). If I'm moving at an absolute snail's pace, then that might be with no oil whatsoever. Sorry for that oversight!
@LoveLove-lm2wz
@LoveLove-lm2wz 10 жыл бұрын
Wish I could afford a therapist to assist me with this. No one seems to understand this. I have been in pain with tingling and numbness since November 2014.
@tomcotter4299
@tomcotter4299 10 жыл бұрын
Go see a therapist.
@MassageSloth
@MassageSloth 9 жыл бұрын
Annmari Love Hi Annmari! I'm afraid that your first stop should be a medical doctor. We can't diagnose as massage therapists, and there are many diagnostic tests available to doctors that we simply don't have. Good luck!
@ridg3line
@ridg3line 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting this video, although it would be much better if the angle was not limited to just one position. Thanks
@tat2jim
@tat2jim 9 жыл бұрын
Like the figure 4(frog leg) @ 21:50.
@gheorghefalcaru
@gheorghefalcaru 4 ай бұрын
high class
@mrbillhilly343
@mrbillhilly343 4 жыл бұрын
Where did you get the name "Massage Sloth" when sloths don't massage, they just sit in trees all day eating leaves?
@taryn8972
@taryn8972 3 жыл бұрын
His motto is "massage lazy, get results" i love his slow, easeful style that prevents therapist burn out
@fq1843
@fq1843 8 жыл бұрын
great
@George50809
@George50809 9 жыл бұрын
This is good massage. IT pain is not fun.
@sarahlewis2293
@sarahlewis2293 8 жыл бұрын
You don't have to bend down for us to see you... it's okay... just keep talking :D
@massageasmr670
@massageasmr670 8 ай бұрын
friend for what
@wajehrahman2793
@wajehrahman2793 9 ай бұрын
Release it pain massage
@sargetheshelterdog8291
@sargetheshelterdog8291 9 жыл бұрын
The TFL is more lateral and the technique you use is poor. Putting your wrists at risk.
@MassageSloth
@MassageSloth 9 жыл бұрын
Gary Kolenich if you're on the lateral aspect of the region just inferior to the ASIS and directing your pressure toward the illium, you're on tensor fasciae latae. This can be confirmed by having the client medially rotate the thigh. As for my hand position, I find that cupping the ASIS in my palm as my carpals sink in offers some extra comfort to the client. Feels plenty stable to me, though I wouldn't want to do the entire massage with that tool!
@hindleyguadamuz5057
@hindleyguadamuz5057 8 жыл бұрын
Miname is kristell
@jonathanwilson9454
@jonathanwilson9454 7 жыл бұрын
>this is my friend summer Cringe
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