MASSIVE BATTLES and FLEETS of the Clone Wars we DIDN'T SEE | Star Wars Lore

Today, we examine planetary security forces, sector fleets, and the secret fleets and battles of the Clone Wars.
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[@EckhartsLadder]

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[@sagetheassassin3192]

*LAAT Noises*

[@averageplant223]

Great video keep up the good work

[@LEGOJediMaster]

#wewantSHA'AGI

[@bradhedgehog12]

Good gosh. Again how did you get all them darn EAW mods dude? Amazing

[@somedudewithakeyboard5388]

Question, how would you feel about covering a faction from Bungie's Destiny? perhaps the Hive or Cabal against some other faction? Or the Vex vs the Forerunners?

[@joebalmer3792]

It is a shame we don’t see more large scale clone wars era space battles as personally I love the eras ships

[@TheOrangeDiamond06]

I love the era In general

[@TheOrangeDiamond06]

Also I like the seperatists even tho they are under appreciated

[@Harshhaze]

@@TheOrangeDiamond06 I wish we saw a scenario where they were the good guys for once

[@whitneylackenbauer9782]

Harshhaze I mean, debatably they were right in some aspects. Like, the republic was super corrupt, and the Jedi were fairly inefficient as a police force

[@thawk1435]

@@whitneylackenbauer9782 and being led by a Sith Lord.

[@sheevpalpatine9253]

some of those so called "freedom fighters" put a dent in my fleets

[@jakelawson5130]

SHEEEEEEEEEV

[@splatoonistproductions5345]

sheev palpatine they’ve been doing so for over 60 years

[@DT-Wise]

Sup master

[@sheevpalpatine9253]

vader get back to work

[@SephirothRyu]

@@sheevpalpatine9253 You should get back to work. Otherwise Lucasarts might punish you by making a series where you have to babysit force sensitive ewoks.

[@lars_heeb9424]

I‘m not sure, but hasn‘t the Conflict on Mon Cala in The Clone Wars TV-Show been such a battle? The natives just got supprted by both sides 🤷‍♂️

[@EckhartsLadder]

Yeah that's a great example.

[@rileybeckham560]

Same, to some degree, with the rebellion on Onderon against the CIS puppet government. The Jedi were there in a very limited capacity, and there were no clones present (besides Rex in the very beginning).

[@el_bamboo_third]

Seeing clones and Jedi in battles is like watching movies abt famous ww2 battles

[@peskymacaw9033]

WWII battles with jedi?

[@captaingeek7798]

Lockjaw nah that’s like watching WWI

[@TerLoki]

@@captaingeek7798 Yeah. Seeing the Clone Wars in the movies and shows is like watching the umpteenth movie about Normandy, Pearl Harbor, or Iwo Jima. These smaller battles are more like the Winter War or foreign crews and ships in service with the British Home Fleet. I don't want to hear how the US saved the day AGAIN, tell me more about the Dutch gunboats that fought under stupidly heavy fire to support landings in Italy, or how the French and British clashed after the fall of France because the Royal Navy was TERRIFIED of Germany getting French ships.

[@jackrutledgegoembel5896]

@@TerLoki What??? I had never heard the latter! Were the French ships... fighting on behalf of FRANCE? Like, these were two Allied powers duking it out?

[@TerLoki]

@@jackrutledgegoembel5896 Sort of? They were mostly fighting for self-preservation. French leadership was in total chaos and the Navy that was docked was locked down in harbor deciding what to do. The British didn't give them a chance to decide and attack so that the Germans wouldn't get the ships. The major actions were at Mers-el-Kebir where HMS Hood put the battlecruiser Dunkerque out of commission, and off Dakar where HMS Ark Royal engaged battleship Richelieu. Richelieu was sent to New York and rejoined the Allied fleet in 1943 after a refit. Ships that joined the Allies tended to be put with the British Home Fleet in their own squadrons and were treated as sovereign territory of their nations. Polish destroyer ORP Blyskawica (now a museum ship) was another example, and another Polish destroyer even got into a gun duel with the BISMARCK, of all ships, and survived.

[@darthscott616]

If there was one thing I wanted to see more of during the Clone Wars was massive battles. Huge fleet and ground battles featuring clones, natural born troops, and droids. Always pictured millions of warships and trillions of troops fighting all over the Galaxy. Would love to have seen a wide variety of ship and weapon designs from a wide variety of planetary navies, like Kuat or Corellia. Some planet killing weapons and orbital bombardments would have been nice too. I do much prefer the Legends Clone Wars lore, but I also like TCW too, though it feels too much like the Clone skirmishes instead.

[@dakat5131]

That's something I like in that era. The units looked cool and it would be fun to see them fight

[@DrewLSsix]

The prequel films only gave us a couple hundred thousand clones total after ten years of buildup, it always seems ridiculous as that would barely make a decent army for a modern global power.

[@patchworkfellow]

DrewLSsix in fairness, Clone Troopers are tough to make, _and_ it had to be done in secret. When they were alllowed to expand because secrecy was thrown out the Windu, I’m sure the Kaminoans started making more. Plus, a large portion of soldiers was, as Eck said, Planetary Defence-Forces

[@aceofspadesguy4913]

As goofy and over the top as the 2003 clone wars were, they did give battles a real sense of enormity.

[@DarthObscurity]

@@DrewLSsix "With a MILLION more WELL on the way." Don't forget that the entire war was basically a ploy so Palpatine could take over the Republic. It's even a decent plot point in some EU content, with a few characters questioning how the clones, who were outnumbered by about 300,000,000 to 1, could hold back such massive numbers.

[@SciFiDeepDive]

As much as I love the battles between the clone & droid armies, I would've loved to see more diverse forces in the TV show. It would've been really cool to see some local defense forces come to aid some clones who are in over their head or something.

[@MandalorV7]

Sci Fi DeepDive well they did do that. The Gungan army came to the Republic’s aid in the battle for Mon Cal.

[@Gomjibar]

I was hoping that the Rise of Skywalker would have started with something like this, or at least with the First Order fighting a local defense fleet, to show that they are taking over the galaxy, but it's not there yet.

[@dakat5131]

Feels kind of ripped off in sequel trilogy. Like "there were amazing fights- but we're not going to show any of that. "

[@DrewLSsix]

@@dakat5131 thats exactly how the original films were.

[@CABRALFAN27]

To be honest, if I had written the Sequels, trying to unite all the various sector defense fleets to stand against the First Order would be a major plot point. I could see the NR demilitarizing like in canon, and the fear of not being strong enough to counter the resurgent Empire, versus the just as real fear of becoming the Empire themselves if they _do_ recentralize, had the potential to be such an interesting dynamic in the Sequels, but it was barely touched on. I'd definitely explore it if I had the chance.

[@marrqi7wini54]

@@CABRALFAN27 That was actually Mon Mothma's goal when she had the New Republic navy downsized. The hope that local planets/systems/sectors would actually start spending money to protect themselves more. I'd guess some would take the hint but others didn't. Perhaps they were either too poor to afford a notable defence fleet, too small, or unwilling to do so. But looking at it from that perspective, the idea of demilitarization didn't seem too stupid. Just executed kind of poorly.

[@DarthObscurity]

@@marrqi7wini54 Considering the massive number of star destroyers that would have just been abandoned, 'building' a new defense force would have been unnecesary. Most of the galaxies navies would be repurposed SD's.

[@turtlelol2411]

Wow, I love the clone wars period and era just the fact that it was one of the biggest militarisation acts of the Republic. Also most of the ships are really nice as well

[@flightsimulatorlad6664]

"the clone wars was fought for sector rights!" "a sector's right to do what?"

[@YinYangLogo]

@Winter_Mandate Seppy losers. Pft, even Valorum was chancellor longer than their Confederacy lasted.

[@imperialhighcommand8535]

@Winter_Mandate Traitors is what they were. They rebelled against the rightful authority in concert with the Jedi and condemned our galaxy to three years of death and destruction which his majesty has since ended.

[@warwolf3005]

To self govern without republic regulations, to set their own taxation law etc. , to be able to set laws that would decreace the influence of megacorporations and so on. Basicly think about every issue with large unions.

[@roguerifter9724]

In many ways they would be right. We know the CIS was trying to kill Padme before she came to Geonosis. But very few people within the Separatist movement did much less in the galaxy as a whole. And there was no actual benefit to the Separatist cause in killing her before the war ignited because the easiest way to achieve their stated goal was to get the Republic to let them go without a fight, and keeping a Republic army from forming would only help that end. So we have Obiwan, an agent of a firmly Republic organization, being captured while committing espionage, AKA a capital offense. Then a Republic senator, and another Jedi are captured while attempting to break him out of prison with no attempt to negotiate until they've been arrested. And rather then try to resolve the incident peacefully the Republic launches an invasion force.

[@imperialhighcommand8535]

@@roguerifter9724 Rebel propaganda! You will be let off with a warning for now, but if you continue to decry the righteous cause of maintaining Galactic Order, which the admittedly ineffectual Old Republic tried and failed to do, you will be treated as a Rebel Sympathizer. You have been warned!

[@GlimmyGOD]

From what i've read in canon and legends, the most popular ships and fighters for planetary defense forces during the time of TCW and GCW would have been Invincible class heavy cruisers, hammerhead-class corvettes, z-95's, dreadnought class cruisers, most of the Corellian engineering corporation's line-up of starfighters and corvettes, and many of the old republic-era ships that the republic sold the rights too. I also like to imagine them using older sith ships as well like the Centurion-class battlecruisers(which Nihilus used as his flagship) and harrower-class dreadnoughts.

[@MandalorV7]

Some plot concepts I would have loved to see in the Clone Wars show would been where the 501st goes to reinforce a clone legion that has been slogging it out for control of a planet since the war started. Here you would see most of the clones are still wearing phase I armor and that locals had been recruited directly into the legion. Maybe even a story where a pro-Republic defense force is made up of battle droids, fighting organic separatists.

[@larry2825]

The thing i love about pre Filoni clone wars is the fact that we have an approach to all this planet militia, like the one of thustra, the freedom sons, the colicoids, the gossam commandos, the nimbus commandos and battles like the one of esseles that was only a fight between the population or the battle of Ando, there are a lot of good stuff before Filoni and Lucas messed it up

[@DjSwaggyFitz]

we missed when anakin saved obi wan on cato nemodia

[@cristianverdugogalaz8725]

thought that what happened in cato nemodia didn't count

[@DjSwaggyFitz]

@Zoomer Imperator was that right before the wrong jedi arc?

[@goodmind4940]

@@DjSwaggyFitz not really, it's been overwritten by Season 7

[@DjSwaggyFitz]

@Zoomer Imperator oh

[@DjSwaggyFitz]

@@goodmind4940 oh yeah that was on cato nemodia

[@jacobbaumgardner3406]

I think the 2003 clone wars films also expressed alot of that sort of content.

[@thebudgieadmiral5140]

I find the naval history subtext here very interesting. The treaty system is very similar to what we had IRL in the 20s and 30s, and they were subverted in similar ways. For example, there was the Japanese carrier Ryuujou. The Washington treaty defined carriers as ships above 10000 tons designed to launch and recover aircraft as their main purpose, and, again, a maximum tonnage was allocated to each navy for this purpose. So the Japanese tried to make Ryuujou smaller than 10000 tons and... partially succeeded. The ship was very unstable, had no protection whatsoever and the short deck meant she couldn't operate some modern aircraft. She was later refitted to have more stability, which brought the weight over the magical 10k tons line anyways. Still, the design succeeded in one thing, and that was the addition of a clause to the second Washington treaty that specifically prevented construction of a carrier under 10k tons in any of the member countries. Navies also frequently lied about the size of their ships, with the best example possibly being the Japanese Mogami-class. Cruisers were limited by the same 10k tons restriction as carriers, so although Mogami weighed in above this limit, Japan claimed she was actually completely treaty compliant, yessir, totally. They even tried to pass off a vessel that would eventually top out at 13500 tons in service as 8500 tons. Paradoxically, the US Navy was somewhat panicked by this, and then proceeded to build the Brooklyn class, which was by all accounts a rather excellent light cruiser with a blistering barrage of over 100 shells per minute (in theory). And, finally, HMS Nelson's torpedo defense system cheese. For this treaty system, a new displacement measurement had been devised that could be applied to all navies. That was called Standard displacement, and it discounted things like fuel, water, and food. So the British, when building their new battleship and desperate to get it properly protected from underwater explosions with little margin to spare, employed large water tanks in the hull as part of the torpedo defence. I don't know how this worked in detail, but it succeeded in bypassing the treaty restrictions because, well, it was water so it could be discounted. I hope my little rambling post was informative. It's interesting time and again how fiction writers are inspired by real events, or how their stories resemble real events. Spacedock has a video that shows how the fight against the Malevolence strongly resembles the hunt for Bismarck, for example.

[@truthmattison7106]

3:36 Random ship: flies past ship with main characters in it Random ship: my time has come

[@mmcsarte]

Republic commando Reboot with missions attacking and/or helping random planets far from the front line, that would be awesome!

[@survivor686]

5:04 - I have to confess - I was quite pleased to hear someone else refer to the "bar-fight" theory of foreign policy/warfare (i.e. if a barfight between two guys starts off, it encompasses the entire rooms simply because its an excuse for everyone else to make good on old grudges - even if it has nothing to do with the starting fight)

[@timbartschwolfman]

#AskEck How did The Republic feel about Valorum after Phantom Menace?

[@patchworkfellow]

I don’t think they really _cared_ about him; when he published an autobiography (Fighting the Tide(?)), it was met with an overwhelming “meh”.

[@patchworkfellow]

Tad unfair, tbh. I though he was a pretty _decent_ Chancellor

[@cgi2002]

A good view of this in general is how do you feel about the UN secretary general? The average citizen doesn't care. The republic didn't run your planet, your planetary government did, they are who you cared about. The republic ran interplanetary affairs, only corporations tended to care what they did prior to the rise of the empire.

[@Marxist-Leninist_BellaLabDog]

@@patchworkfellow the autobiography of Valorum was called Holding Back The Tide and yes it was not well received it was essentially destroyed in sales by the novel titled Gunray on Top which was the unauthorized biography of Nute Gunray.

[@macwelch8599]

Random question: why didn’t the Imperial Army attack Hoth instead of the stormtroopers?

[@duncanmcgee13]

Vaders presence

[@hypakritikal5490]

Yea was about to say vader aswell aldo prob because of the distance between nearby army bases idk

[@jakelawson5130]

May sound dumb but I thought stormtroopers built up the imperial army

[@P3ntom]

The reason is, cause Vader got ordered to hunt the rebels. That's the only real reason

[@TheLiamster]

The Imperial Army likely wouldn’t operate in inhospitable conditions like Hoth, they don’t have the equipment for a cold weather assault unlike the Snowtroopers.

[@lovejiji]

My favourite KZbinr uploading once again 🥺👉👈

[@timbartschwolfman]

EckhartsLadder is awesome

[@cube6435]

Eckhartsladder's vids are so soothing and interesting

[@lmgtree4507]

When the tips *Touch*

[@stormycode16plays59]

Khaffit no

[@mr._.mav792]

I've been partially interested on a subject like this for some time, but I didn't think anyone else really cared about it. What sparked my interest was the conflict on the planet Mimban, how the Mimbanese allied themselves with the Republic, and then proceeded to fight the Empire. It was just fascinating to think about the experiences of a native's perspective as they had to choose which side to fight for, and who they might have to fight against if another group didn't like their decision. I wish we saw more of this

[@kevinheller5414]

Thanks again. It's always nice to get a feeling of a more galaxy-wide spanning war. It just makes it all larger than life.

[@toby1061]

I know it was more focused on ground wars but I wish we had a few clone wars episodes with jsut space battles. I mean the only ones are some of the Grievous over salucami ark and the chrisosis ark. That’s depressing that their were only maybe 4 episodes based on space battles in the clone wars.

[@nickmalachai2227]

Can we talk about how the Republic had a thousand years without an effective military? Say what you will, that's some damn effective diplomatic de-escalation skills.

[@aceofspadesguy4913]

Don’t need a military when you completely wipe out the enemy.

[@alejandromaldonado6159]

Well the Republic figured that the Hutt Cartel was hard to conquer and were isolationist and didn't have a standing military so no need to about them for a risk of a galactic war. The Sith on the otherhand, the Republic surmised to exterminate them until there's nothing left. The Sith race, the Sith Lord's, any remnant of their empires were all exterminated with leaving the last two Sith Bane and his apprentice going into hiding starting the rule of two. After the end of the Sith, the Republic looked to the next major threat to the galaxy, the Mandolorians. After exterminating the Sith, the Republic immediately then attack Mandalore, glassing the planet until to the point it can never be habitable again ,well except one small city of the planet. Once the Sith and the Mandolorians threat gone. The galaxy was at peace and it lasted for millenias. No need for a galactic military, no need for Jedi Lord's, but peacekeepers instead. A galactic peace that only lasted until the Clone wars.

[@nickmalachai2227]

@@alejandromaldonado6159 to be fair, the Sith Genocide happened before the Battle of Ruusan, the Mandalorian Excision is a relatively new addition (although "Mandalorians as more than evil space vikings" is also a relatively new addition), and the other Mandalorian cities still exist, they're just also domes and not the focus of the story in the Clone Wars

[@nickmalachai2227]

Still, even then, the Republic managed to maintain a vast multicultural democratic nation with various internal disagreements and zero military. That's an impressive feat. That's like if the Byzantine Romans reconquered the entire globe, switched to a full republic, and then continued to this very day.

[@ryanrockz7687]

Eck I love your content, please keep doing what you do!

[@aww2historian]

Excellent work! Learning all the subtle details and factions in a war is what makes it that much more truly fascinating!

[@kaisersnider8593]

How you mention how at the start it was really tough to tell the sides apart was very much the case in the US Civil War. The grey south wasn't really a thing and both sides used blue for a long time and the Confederate flag was really close to the Union flag as well. You would hear accounts of troops joining their enemy because they thought they were friendly.

[@mqsala582]

This is why I really like Fotr. Many of the ships in that mod are cannon but never seen on screen

[@Luca-fu8sg]

Watching this at 2:30am in Germany, gladly, was bored as hell Greetings btw

[@dr_palmtree4734]

Greetings from the US!

[@Sin526]

Guten morgen

[@Jedi_Spartan]

A similar example would be the Battle of Jabiim where a majority of the fighters were factions of natives (with the Jedi getting f***ed over massively during it and droids only being able to be deployed in the battle's last days.

[@_ace_defective_]

Is that the battle in the legends comic books with the Republic AT-ATs?

[@zjoh1560]

BrawlerAce Yes

[@TheWingland]

Vs matchup Sgt. Johnson(Halo) vs Captain Rex(Star Wars)

[@CABRALFAN27]

"Dear Republic, we regret being clanker bastards, we regret coming to Coruscant, and we most certainly regret that the 501st blew up our raggedy-ass fleet! HOO-RAH!"

[@briang287]

Yes do it!!!!

[@Mitchz95]

I'd love to see the Star Wars universe return to a Ruusan-style system, where every race has their own line of warships. Would make the universe feel much less monolithic.

[@EthanKironus8067]

Empire at War must be a good game to have this level of staying power, regardless of how much that's dependent on mods.

[@brambo3011]

Excellent vid as aslways Eck! What you discussed here is exactly why I would love to see the prequel era in Star Wars Squadrons. Not only would it be great to have a Clone Pilot narrative, but the potential to play as a member of a planet's defense force that's being attacked by Republic or CIS forces would be incredible!

[@Marxist-Leninist_BellaLabDog]

Ngl this side of the Clone War would have been much more interesting to see than the Clone War we got.

[@BODLive08]

Honest question Was the Ruusan Reformations really a good idea?

[@EckhartsLadder]

I think so

[@feralprocessor9853]

The galaxy must of been in war after war scenarios for that to be a good idea.

[@bradmorales4002]

Not so much.

[@TheEchoreader]

You can't keep the whole empire under weapons after centuries of war, especially with no clear enemy in sight. The tarkin doctrine could only work because Palpatine was discribed as a financial genius, who could budget such an immense fleet after the clone wars. In this light the demilitarization after the battle of Jakku in the Disney continuity makes sense too (though i hope this gets retconned in the near future)

[@bradmorales4002]

@@TheEchoreader are you sure about that? Demilitarization looks bad. Still if there're no more enemy forces in sight they have to be always armed n ready just in case.

[@vertice2759]

These vids are the best, the random lore/explanatory stuff

[@wilhufftarkin8543]

Stuff like this was sometimes shown in Legends. The Battle of Jabiim is a good example. Btw, the "normal" soldiers were unified as the Imperial Army by the Empire. This is why the Imperial Army was much larger than the Stormtrooper Corps, because the Stormtrooper Corps was the successor to the GAR.

[@Willdabeast-ut4eq]

Hey Eck, just wanted to say that your videos have been extremely helpful in the creation of a Star Wars RPG. Keep up the good content, especially on ships and equipment!

[@TobeWilsonNetwork]

2:52 are you saying that *there were heroes on both sides?*

[@rylharris4514]

TobeWilsonNetwork yeah the separatist only want peace and stay away from war then the republic were like nah

[@redcomet7024]

I've always wanted to see that other side as well. The closest we see is like you said the umbarins, but also the gungans on Mon Cala

[@TheWingland]

Halo video videa What if the UNSC had never researched the spartan 2 or mjolnir programs. However one month after first contact with the covenant the UNSC INFINITY and her escort fleet of Autumn class cruisers appear at earth through a wormhole. The ships are fully operational and have manuals detailing how all ship systems, such as shielding and more advanced slipsace, operate and also how to build them for other ships. However it does not have the spartan 4s. How does this affect the human covenant war? Does humanity win or lose? #askeck

[@jeffreycarman2185]

It would be pretty cool if I here could be a clone wars spin-off cartoon that explores these forces a bit more.

[@maxbrandt6]

I had a feeling things were a good bit more complex then what we saw in the movies and TV shows.

[@Theology.101]

Kuat when Fondor invades just instantky creams itself

[@performingmale4468]

What do you think about doing a ship versus pitting an allegiance class battle cruiser against an ORS class heavy cruiser. Might be a closer matchup than your old CCS against imperial 2 video

[@sauronthemighty3985]

In my headcanon the clone army is supplemented by the non-clone Galactic Defense Forces, organized from local planetary defense forces as well as Republic Judicial Security. The GDF never had the same degree of organization or training as the clone army, but they were nonetheless essential in defending the Republic against the Separatist onslaught, especially in the later stages when clone numbers had been significantly reduced by attrition.

[@splatoonistproductions5345]

I want to see it all animated!!!

[@thevoidlookspretty7079]

I like the thought that Kuat kept the Star Destroyer forges hot for 1,000 years, and when the war broke out, the KDY CEO shouted, “YES,” while his eyes turned into dollar signs.

[@Venator-Class_Star_Destroyer]

this is pretty cool! id love to see a show dedicated to these battles! and dont take sides but each ark could have both sides perspectives..while some might focus on 1 side cause they will win...and id really LOVE to see the vast amounts of ships..like local ships and armies...i really just wanna see the sheer creativity someone could put into them..like converted freighters or mabye even a hammehread cruiser mark 2 as a easter egg! everything is possible!

[@awesometon]

I like to imagine that the kuat defence fleet is like 30 or so venators and countless smaller ships by the exit of some hyperspace route. And they are just sitting there waiting to pulverize any enemy ship that dares to show its face.

[@TyphoonSignal10]

The Kuat defense fleet was built around at least three 8km Mandator class dreadnaughts and their successors, the Mandator II class dreadnaught, so a little more impressive than the venators.

[@SlickCookie]

Wassup Eck? - Spooked from your discord server

[@Uberdude6666]

Explains why the Republic is hesitant to help Onderon in that arc, and want to focus on helping them help themselves instead. It would have been a cool nuanced element to the Clone Wars-era, if it was like the Republic's clone army was outnumbered by the Separatist's droid army as is now, but the Republic had far greater local/Sector-forces than the CiS, courtesy of them having a lot more systems at the outbreak of the war.

[@AF-tv6uf]

I know that for the purposes of TV they had to show the heroes in small unit actions where they made a difference. And that budget constraints probably meant that even on-screen battles showed a lot fewer ships than were *actually* at the battle. However, that really subtracted from the epic feel of Star Wars. The fact that we saw nothing like the Battle of Coruscant in TCW was a lost opportunity to show scale. In TCW, during the "Malevolence" arc, they mention a dozen fleets being destroyed. Would have been thrilling to see *those* battles!

[@anotherhobbyist794]

Great video. I was thinking about this the other day as I wondered what part Naboo star fighters played in the wider conflict.

[@lostonearth7856]

What would be weird and be fun would be a 1917 like movie or Saving Private Ryan like show with these massive grand scale Second World War like battle field in a middle of a Sic-Fi setting called Star Wars filled with people who were recruited into a military or defence force.

[@jeffreycarman2185]

I would love to see a movie, tv show, or cartoon that takes place during the time that the separatists began breaking away from the perspective of a non-human sentients in the government and defensive forces of a separatist sector or government.

[@o19g78e]

Some good examples would be the battle of Jabiim. And the Dreadnaughts of Rendili.

[@thorshammer7883]

#AskEck The United Earth Alliance Omega Class Destroyer *(Babylon 5)* vs the UNSC Marathon-Class Heavy Cruiser *(Halo).*

[@_tertle3892]

How many attempts?

[@thorshammer7883]

@@_tertle3892 About a dozen or so.

[@nickd.949]

Yo I’m watching the clone wars arc about the separatist peace talks right now

[@cardinalhistory6045]

Which season?

[@bradmorales4002]

@@cardinalhistory6045 season 3.

[@cardinalhistory6045]

@@bradmorales4002 Thank you

[@TheLiamster]

I loved those episodes, the only thing I hate is Lux Bonteri.

[@bradmorales4002]

@@cardinalhistory6045 anytime.

[@PaulRebel]

Nice 1 interesting topic about a little discussed area of the war.

[@hughgedney3393]

A very extremely great video as always EckhartsLadder.

[@mrludwig3507]

What are the large tube like ships at 1:44?

[@carpemkarzi]

Thanks for all the cool lore canon or not.

[@redenginner]

Ngl at least one third of the naval battles where likely Dreadnought HCs fighting other Dreadnought HCs.

[@condeaarondarkusexcubitor3155]

Apart from the Mon Calamari Royal Forces from TCW, we can also count the Twilek Resistance that appears in the same show as a planetary defense force. Well, an improvised one, compared to the Royal Forces of Mon Cala, those where civilians and some actually battle-trained members, fighting to not be in control of the CIS.

[@chheinrich8486]

This shows how big the star wars galaxy is, when the clone wars tv show is not really showing how the war was in its entirety

[@thorshammer7883]

#AskEck *Attempt 804* Can you do the Forerunners vs the Imperium of Man faction versus video soon please?

[@truggeredx4351]

I think he stopped doing 40k videos :(

[@OutlawedOutlander]

I’m fairly early for once. I’m proud of myself now!

[@DickbuttDirk]

Similar weapons, vehicles, uniforms and warships. So basically that picture of Spiderman pointing at spiderman

[@alluringming]

When watching the clone wars I wanted to see one of these fleets and ground forces coming to aid hte jedi and the clones, showing that their are other armies and fleets out their fighting for the republic as well. I always believed they existed despite some negative feedback from some nut would made sense. Whether they were created as planet/system defense force and still decently armored. Or a well funded judicial forces.

[@reapervirus71]

The clone wars is my favorite era and I wish to know everything about it

[@scorpion1429]

Alot of similarities can be seen between the First Galactic Civil War and the American Civil War. In each we see an industrial, centrally governed, and more populous region against a more rural confederate group of states.

[@notsampletext3740]

Nice video Eck!

[@Steve-em4tb]

A real pity that Tofen Vane and the Valahari never made an appearance.

[@user-gd5tr7gw7s]

It's funny to think about stuff behind the scenes because in a fictive story there is in some sense nothing behind it.

[@satinflowers3330]

I seem to remember that dave filoni released some concept art of a battle between trandoshan separatists and Republic wookies that was meant to be in the clone wars. It would have been nice to see more conflict between average citizens of either side rather than just magic samurai and genocidal roombas. Also more separatists who are decent people would great too seeing as George literally says "heroes on both sides" in the Revenge of the Sith title crawl.

[@cryptosporidium1375]

These battles were too cool to render.

[@daniellafferety4025]

Fighter/bomber/proton multiple warheads long range missle boats. Could be smaller cheaper to maintain but devastating a plant, or a large city with less cost. Think 1 piolet, a R12 d15. Possibly has 12 special features. Like a 1)clothing dry cleaner, 2)a drink dispenser, 3)a food regigeration unit,4) oven, and 5) a presiouse object storage valut. Also 6) a computer that can caulate 15 jumps. 7) inter stealer comication 8) ship repair tools 9)10)11)12)see R2 D2 ablities for likely ideas. But this droid could rapidly cauclted several jump's and ecucte the attack target jump pattern. Buy jump in fier 12 deflector sheilded, or extreme range stealthee cruse proton missile's. Then jump out of system to a resupply area. But you would not be putting a star destroyer, and 25,000 man at risk to do what the fighter bomber/ A wing was built for. Rember a plantary force has a budget. But just adding a droid with estialy a nava computer instead of a older out dated model could increase the A wings effect. This is what caused the republic to collapse to much expense to littel profits 📈.

[@DooMandGlooM86]

I loved your video The dog thing at the end did not appreciate

[@aaronford4159]

Question what does a none clone trooper during the clone wars wear

[@jclark4047]

Probably something similar to what the rebellion or the Naboo wore.

[@comradeshadles4967]

What are the odds that we could have a video for the various ships shown here?

[@internetuser6602]

I hear that synthwave intro and click the like button :D

[@9and7]

Always felt the 3 year arc was way too short, something like the 30 Year's War would make more sense for a conflict of this type...

[@leosaiko]

In my opinion the war never really ended especially in the mid and outer rim, but the tactics changed to guerrilla warfare against the opressors after the rise of the empire. Thats the rebellion. Good examples for that are Onderon, Kashyyk or Lothal with varying success but youre right in that the soon end of the clone wars caused much confusion and paused the fighting in many systems for years as the governments had to reform.

[@goodmind4940]

if you thought 3-4 years was too short, may I present with First Order-Resistance war that lasted 1 year

[@9and7]

@@goodmind4940 Good point! LOL!!!

[@rjr6274]

When I bing watched the whole series I expected to see great skirmishes both in space and on ground but I was surprised by small archs about droids, Jar Jar Binks and petty matters around the main characters.

[@blakedirtyd6370]

What was the PC game being played?

[@ryanrockz7687]

A mod for Empire At War

[@broadex9080]

Tiny sector battles over sectors and territories.

[@martinsuper4545]

PLEASE PLEASE PLEAS Eck. Can you give us a tutorial video on how to find and install the Empire at War mods?!

[@pale_lad1252]

Onderon is also an example of this right?

[@taavidude]

Star Wars does need more large scale battles.

[@kumardias9348]

Really interesting topic

[@coolwindow6823]

Hey eck, can u do some vids of the warlords mod from homeworld on ur othr channel

[@Critical1ce]

Question for ya: What do you think would happen if a ship happened to enter hyperspace while still in atmosphere? I’m thinking of something similar to what the Covenant did to New Mombasa in Halo 2.

[@aboutthemetal8783]

The disgusting rebel terrorists, well done to the emperor and his peace keeping clone troopers for ending the tyranny of the Jedi.

[@icy9120]

Sometimes I just watch your intro on repeat haha

[@lightspeedvictory]

#askeck which type of deflector shielding is a more effective form of protection: a bubble-like field that’s constantly active or when the hull is struck, sensors in the armor trigger nearby generators that trigger a transient energy field localized in the area? Video suggestion/request: X-83 Twintail vs. Tie Defender (Legends)

[@olliesloane151]

The Shatterpoint novel covers this a bit.

[@jeffpoo2010]

Can you do demographics on the spicies comprising the Star Wars galaxy