MASSIVE CHESS CHEATING SCANDAL

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GothamChess

GothamChess

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@matheuscouri2225
@matheuscouri2225 Ай бұрын
Its hard to find an actual adult commentary in your videos.
@TheSicilianBear
@TheSicilianBear Ай бұрын
Pin of shame
@GothamChess
@GothamChess Ай бұрын
That's because you might have reading comprehension skills of a 7 year old
@th3atomu555
@th3atomu555 Ай бұрын
Then don’t watch
@sjotpit3521
@sjotpit3521 Ай бұрын
Holy pin of shame
@r33th
@r33th Ай бұрын
​@@GothamChess sheeeeeesh 😂
@smokeyninja9920
@smokeyninja9920 Ай бұрын
With this case, Kramnik's accuracy at detecting cheating rises to 0.0001%
@sorakamain5734
@sorakamain5734 Ай бұрын
🤣😂🤣🤣
@sentientbeing8738
@sentientbeing8738 Ай бұрын
Well, if you accuse everybody of cheating you'll surely find one.
@TheArct1cCold
@TheArct1cCold Ай бұрын
That is literally what he wrote​@@sentientbeing8738
@egorgor
@egorgor Ай бұрын
@@sentientbeing8738 What a nice excuse. Did he accuse Fabi, Nepo, Magnus, or Prag? There are plenty of people he didn’t accuse.
@anvithpalat9953
@anvithpalat9953 Ай бұрын
@@egorgor i think he did accuse the indian olympiad team for cheating
@張謙-n3l
@張謙-n3l Ай бұрын
For the part about Kramnik, if you accuse everyone to be a cheater, you'll 100% catch all the cheaters. But this doesn't mean this is a good strategy of catching them
@ekarshvats6904
@ekarshvats6904 Ай бұрын
Bro wtf this is not any strategy it's caveman behaviour 💀
@Rise6474
@Rise6474 Ай бұрын
💀💀💀💀​@@ekarshvats6904
@timepass4783
@timepass4783 Ай бұрын
That’s just hit and trial
@ztkilla
@ztkilla Ай бұрын
Pol Potnik
@ModernWizardx1
@ModernWizardx1 Ай бұрын
greedy solution vs optimised solution
@sleazeberg
@sleazeberg Ай бұрын
Levy's lawyer: Make sure you say allegedly at least 50x
@mikehartl8665
@mikehartl8665 Ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@sammarks9146
@sammarks9146 Ай бұрын
@@sleazeberg Simon Whistler has entered the chat.
@HarryCrackz
@HarryCrackz Ай бұрын
"and reiterate how much you don't want to make this video"
@agentraydg839
@agentraydg839 Ай бұрын
Oh man 😅
@nicholasdrost693
@nicholasdrost693 Ай бұрын
It's what news stations do
@kintsuki99
@kintsuki99 Ай бұрын
Hans was smart keeping all evidence inside of him.
@vinciaco
@vinciaco Ай бұрын
brilliant
@jaideepshekhar4621
@jaideepshekhar4621 Ай бұрын
Ha Gay! Oh wait-
@ThePapaja1996
@ThePapaja1996 Ай бұрын
bzzzz bzzzzzz
@UltaGhoom
@UltaGhoom Ай бұрын
Just for the vibes!
@Wjbddskwndkd
@Wjbddskwndkd Ай бұрын
So many kids in gotham channel🙈
@jonsnow1324
@jonsnow1324 25 күн бұрын
I have also cheated. While i played, i had a friend who held up a mirror behind my opponent, so i could see his side of the board. Im not sorry
@victorvolobuev507
@victorvolobuev507 24 күн бұрын
How dare you, bastid😂
@mpmpm
@mpmpm 15 күн бұрын
"Im not sorry": You should. If you can't play fair(ly), please stop diluting the quality of the chess community.
@victorvolobuev507
@victorvolobuev507 14 күн бұрын
Isa joke bro, a mirror may only hep if you’re playing battle ship or poker
@jonsnow1324
@jonsnow1324 14 күн бұрын
@victorvolobuev507 no I won that game, I was able to see my opponent side better. I saw he had a rook in the corners at the start, and pawns in a line one square away fron the end of the borad. Gave me an advantage
@fitzek22
@fitzek22 Ай бұрын
In regards to Kramnik, i would say that “Even a broken clock is right 2 times a day”
@bestbrett
@bestbrett Ай бұрын
Yeah, are we just gonna ignore all the times he is wrong? If you accuse everyone eventually you'll get it correct.
@headcoald2516
@headcoald2516 Ай бұрын
You literally just said the same thing he said ​@@bestbrett
@paulb3428
@paulb3428 Ай бұрын
Keep lying to yourself guys, the online chess world is built on a house of cards. VIVA KRAMNIK
@santiagofernandez2618
@santiagofernandez2618 Ай бұрын
@@headcoald2516 A blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while. Even a blind hen sometimes finds a grain. A broken arrow can still hit the mark.
@nol2521
@nol2521 Ай бұрын
@@paulb3428literally 1984
@ZbigniewZCieszyna
@ZbigniewZCieszyna Ай бұрын
funny thing about Kramnik - maybe he already forgot - but in 2006 World Championship Match Kramnik vs. Topalov - Kramnik went to toilet and restroom a few dozen times
@ekarshvats6904
@ekarshvats6904 Ай бұрын
Yup iguess he brought his strong computer cpu and stuff to analyse the position and find the best moves in the toilet😂
@ArsMoriendiSynthPop
@ArsMoriendiSynthPop Ай бұрын
Kramnik didn’t need a smartphone in 2006 to hypothetically cheat. He could have used a hidden communication device, like a pager or a small receiver, to get moves from an accomplice analyzing the game with a computer.
@ArsMoriendiSynthPop
@ArsMoriendiSynthPop Ай бұрын
Oh and I forgot to add: "😂" ...
@douggieharrison6913
@douggieharrison6913 Ай бұрын
That was 20 years ago lol people change over the years. 20 years ago I also said and did things that don't reflect who I am today
@le_gus001
@le_gus001 Ай бұрын
No worries, we didn't forget that 😂
@JeBoisHub
@JeBoisHub Ай бұрын
bro forgot to flush the evidence 💀💀
@MeNoodle
@MeNoodle Ай бұрын
bruh good one
@T.R.O.Y_drawing
@T.R.O.Y_drawing Ай бұрын
lol
@eatmyfrigginshorts
@eatmyfrigginshorts Ай бұрын
that would probably hurt the pipes
@NJDJ2
@NJDJ2 Ай бұрын
😂
@agentraydg839
@agentraydg839 Ай бұрын
It might be clogged!
@tinne26
@tinne26 Ай бұрын
To be honest, the alledged cheating sounds too sloppy to be real. Leaving a phone with a note in a bathroom and ignoring the arbiter warnings to go there anyway? How sillier could it get?
@tvrskkngdm2333
@tvrskkngdm2333 Ай бұрын
Its Ukranian style.
@somethingorother7440
@somethingorother7440 Ай бұрын
Im sure the investigation will get to the bottom of it, but its hard to take cheating allegations seriously after what happened with hans.
@snowvaz2190
@snowvaz2190 Ай бұрын
In the first game a cleaning lady found the phone and left it at reception, that's why she didn't play the whole game like the module There are more clues, Divis speaks about them (in spanish) on a video. He is clearly a cheater
@snowvaz2190
@snowvaz2190 Ай бұрын
In the first game a cleaning lady found the phone and left it at reception, that's why she didn't play the whole game like the module There are more clues, Divis speaks about them (in spanish) on a video. He is clearly a cheater
@thecrusaders413
@thecrusaders413 Ай бұрын
@@tvrskkngdm2333 Amina Abakarova a russian chess girl, poisoned her opponent Umayganat Osmanova, she risks now 3 years prison, this is the russian style.
@relaxd0ntd01t
@relaxd0ntd01t Ай бұрын
I saw the title and was relieved to know Levy wasn't the one getting banned
@neesan69
@neesan69 Ай бұрын
@kellz6266
@kellz6266 Ай бұрын
🤣 just as he was on the road to GM too
@DJPopaZoukero
@DJPopaZoukero Ай бұрын
Damn that’s hash 😢
@LahanyaG
@LahanyaG Ай бұрын
This deserves pin of shame 😂
@octobsession3061
@octobsession3061 Ай бұрын
There's "GM" on the thumbnail. Levy is Not
@gghelis
@gghelis Ай бұрын
Kramnik was the OG toilet cheating suspect.
@awakebutstillinbed
@awakebutstillinbed Ай бұрын
skibidi?
@user-gr3tg2yk6o-24_डफ़क
@user-gr3tg2yk6o-24_डफ़क Ай бұрын
He was not a suspect … he cheated for sure
@Relisoc4
@Relisoc4 Ай бұрын
@@user-gr3tg2yk6o-24_डफ़कmy theory is his obsession without is rooted in the fact that he did toilet cheat. Projection and all that
@dariogreggio7981
@dariogreggio7981 Ай бұрын
​@@user-gr3tg2yk6o-24_डफ़क how? explain pls
@VARMOT123
@VARMOT123 Ай бұрын
Which year ?
@toddpdroneworks563
@toddpdroneworks563 Ай бұрын
Kramnik falls under the "even a blind squirrel can find a nut once in a while" classification.
@anvithpalat9953
@anvithpalat9953 Ай бұрын
except he isn't blind or a squirrel. he's that guy that yells GET OFF MY LAWN when ur on the sidewalk
@Khedran
@Khedran Ай бұрын
We must admit it, General Motors had betrayed our trust enough, life time ban!
@ghmongo
@ghmongo Ай бұрын
Bring back the Pontiac Vibe!
@endthisnonsense7202
@endthisnonsense7202 Ай бұрын
That'd have to be Ford obviously. The episode when the Ford Motor Company infamously decided it was cheaper to pay wrongful death suits than fix the Ford Pinto is well documented.
@falkkiwiben
@falkkiwiben Ай бұрын
Will never forget what they did to SAAB >:(
@voss9842
@voss9842 Ай бұрын
I only trust the Ford Mustangs now!
@HoSza1
@HoSza1 Ай бұрын
Cheating advice for phone users: - Hide your device well - Change time zone - Don't leave silly notes with it - Or if you do at least use a printed one - Clear finger prints - Don't drop DNS samples of any type - Remove SIM cards - Turn on airplane mode
@Strype13
@Strype13 23 күн бұрын
Lastly, if you have to flush it down the shitter, make sure it goes down.
@serikazero128
@serikazero128 Ай бұрын
How to become a GM in chess: Get a few phones, set them on the time zone of your opponents. When you see they go to bathroom a lot, put a phone in the bathroom. Called the referee. Free wins.
@mata2723
@mata2723 Ай бұрын
but also make sure your opponent eat or drink something before that will make him/her go often to bathroom so it is suspicious
@tripl9
@tripl9 29 күн бұрын
give your opponents cookies as a hello, goodluck. laced with laxatives!
@jamesrustles8670
@jamesrustles8670 29 күн бұрын
​@@tripl9poison opponent like that lady somewhat recently 😂
@Strype13
@Strype13 23 күн бұрын
@@tripl9 If you're going as far as lacing your opponents cookies, might as well just go with strychnine or something. An absentee forfeit is a lot more reliable.
@bobsuarez4364
@bobsuarez4364 Ай бұрын
I know nothing about chess, barely play and know very little about the game. But I'm from Spain and I can assure, without a doubt, that note has not been written by any spaniard and it is so clear. We would not write "no toques". Nobody in Spain speaks or writes like that. We would say "no tocar el movil" or "no toques el movil" (much less likely in my opinion, but still possible). "No toques" by itself feels so weird to say.
@ysf-d9i
@ysf-d9i Ай бұрын
yeah, who wouldn't want to wear a toque hat in the winter?
@Bobromil
@Bobromil Ай бұрын
Spaniards giving this poor guy food poisoning and planting a phone with a note they wrote with the pen they gave him to sign in. Intentionally writing in a way that wouldn't sound natural.
@might.be.zwerty22
@might.be.zwerty22 Ай бұрын
(or no se toca) as another spanish person, i agree
@might.be.zwerty22
@might.be.zwerty22 Ай бұрын
also huesped aint used like that, for owner you would use dueño
@JoshuaGutierrez-yq2bi
@JoshuaGutierrez-yq2bi Ай бұрын
And who uses Huesped?!
@Jossandoval
@Jossandoval Ай бұрын
Look, one must always consideer the context when hearing someone talk. When Kramnik talks about suspicious data with high-school level understanding of statics, it's ok to ignore him. But when Kramnik talks about using devices in the toilet to cheat in chess, one must listen, he is a pioneer on the field.
@hakkai720
@hakkai720 Ай бұрын
Veslin topalov vs kramnik😂😂😂😂😂
@carloercollodi
@carloercollodi Ай бұрын
When jossandoval talks about getting beat up by his dad for being an annoying kid we all listen to the expert
@Jossandoval
@Jossandoval Ай бұрын
@@carloercollodi Hey! Tell your mom that the things that I tell her in the afterglow are private!
@carloercollodi
@carloercollodi Ай бұрын
the afterglow of getting your ass beat
@Jossandoval
@Jossandoval Ай бұрын
@@carloercollodi What can I say, your mom is into some freaky things. I don't kink shame thought, but I will have the rest of the world to have their turn for a while.
@thedilatoryvellichor748
@thedilatoryvellichor748 Ай бұрын
Love how every time Gotham tries to be more serious, his comment section is as braindead as always.
@FC-fs7zp
@FC-fs7zp Ай бұрын
They also cheat a lot...so they like to pretend its all exagerated...
@mauer1
@mauer1 Ай бұрын
nah they are even more brain dead to level the playing field.
@sherryw1919
@sherryw1919 17 күн бұрын
A comment only referencing brain-dead comments ... ironic.
@thedilatoryvellichor748
@thedilatoryvellichor748 17 күн бұрын
@@sherryw1919 I'd say this channel's comments thrives on irony lol. And how the hell did this comment get so many likes?
@Ziad.G
@Ziad.G Ай бұрын
Every time i return to watch this channel i am impressed by how well levy is a not biased-reporter and how much respect he shows to his influence over the chess world
@jaideepshekhar4621
@jaideepshekhar4621 Ай бұрын
He's biased towards Hans.
@arvindmoharir9561
@arvindmoharir9561 Ай бұрын
@@jaideepshekhar4621 no
@davidchristian8066
@davidchristian8066 Ай бұрын
As the saying goes "Cheaters who are bad at what they play, cheat to win. Cheaters who are good at what they play, cheat because they want to keep winning."
@Strype13
@Strype13 23 күн бұрын
That doesn't sound like a genuine saying, at all. You sure you didn't just make that up?
@davidchristian8066
@davidchristian8066 23 күн бұрын
@Strype13 I was paraphrasing Karl Jobst
@Strype13
@Strype13 21 күн бұрын
@@davidchristian8066 Oh, really? That's the fella who covers gaming/speedrunning content, right? And also kicked Billy Mitchell's ass in one of his despicable ,frivolous lawsuits? I really enjoy his content. I don't remember hearing him say that phrase, but I most certainly haven't watched all of his videos. And I will admit, that does sound like something he might say, lol. Do you happen to remember what video he said it in? I'd love to check it out.
@davidchristian8066
@davidchristian8066 20 күн бұрын
@@Strype13 the closest i could find was from his first dream cheating video, but i swear i heard something closer from him in a different video. I just can't remember which.
@cmdroldar
@cmdroldar Ай бұрын
kramnik was accusing so many people that its statistically unlikely he *wouldnt* eventually be right and also, as they say; even a stopped clock is right twice a day
@douggieharrison6913
@douggieharrison6913 Ай бұрын
I think there are a lot more people cheating and Kramnik isn't wrong. Finding one roach means there's 50 more you haven't found.
@Hayun_Emb
@Hayun_Emb Ай бұрын
​@@douggieharrison6913 But there are a lot more ppl he has accused of cheating but are totally innocent.
@FN57pewpew
@FN57pewpew Ай бұрын
Double negative, Kramnik wouldn't unlikely can't comprehend
@cmdroldar
@cmdroldar Ай бұрын
double negatives are grammatically correct, especially in the way i used them
@Youonly_dieonce
@Youonly_dieonce Ай бұрын
@@FN57pewpewI think you have the same 7 year old reading comprehension as the pinned comment
@victorvilla5742
@victorvilla5742 Ай бұрын
I think cheating in chess also involves some kind of psychological problem. I play a lot in lichess in anonymous mode when I'm practicing opening lines and found out that many of my oponnents used engine and one can think that there is no point in that. Those are unrated games and you don't get anything from that, but I think it is a mental or emotional issue.
@adomaskuzinas2137
@adomaskuzinas2137 Ай бұрын
Anonymous ratingless games on lichess are cancer. Either you get paired with a complete noob, or you get crushed by stockfish. Nothing inbetween.
@DavetheGrue
@DavetheGrue Ай бұрын
@@adomaskuzinas2137 I played blitz that way and didn't find that; as an intermediate player the field was a little better than I was but not a lot. I quit because it was cancer for a different reason: poor sportsmanship. I couldn't find a way to turn off takeback requests in anonymous games, and people would quit without resigning if you didn't let them takeback mistakes (not just misclicks). That and all the stall-quitting, which sucks even in blitz. "Dude, it's anonymous! There's no rating. Why not just resign?"
@cerealhit555
@cerealhit555 28 күн бұрын
No, you're just facing people who wouldn't play chess if they couldn't cheat. Same goes in video games, a large group of people only play games because they can cheat. If they couldn't cheat or would actually get banned for it, they wouldn't play at all.
@amanuelamogne9749
@amanuelamogne9749 Ай бұрын
Was happy to see a GothamChess video upload alert... wasn't expecting to see a GM ditch the viral vibrator and use the classic number 3... Bathroom Opening Smartphone Variation...
@tschakatschada
@tschakatschada Ай бұрын
😄
@ntarctica
@ntarctica Ай бұрын
I'm doing that bathroom opening smartphone variation
@Sardarji927
@Sardarji927 Ай бұрын
My Ex also cheated in the toilet!
@polarisalpine1530
@polarisalpine1530 Ай бұрын
*on
@ramunasstulga8264
@ramunasstulga8264 Ай бұрын
​@@polarisalpine1530at*
@anvithpalat9953
@anvithpalat9953 Ай бұрын
@@polarisalpine1530 💀thats crazy
@cannotfigureoutaname
@cannotfigureoutaname Ай бұрын
​@@polarisalpine1530 Who knows, maybe she's into that shi
@chungus816
@chungus816 Ай бұрын
That's nasty bruh
@magnificcenTCG
@magnificcenTCG Ай бұрын
Really simple solution, just put a toilet in the playing hall right in the open just like the toilets you see in prison and ain't no cheating happening.
@piergiorgio919
@piergiorgio919 Ай бұрын
Or a toilet with a faraday cage
@obibellowme
@obibellowme Ай бұрын
@@piergiorgio919nah stockfish can be ran on the phone without any internett
@Gamebuster
@Gamebuster Ай бұрын
@@piergiorgio919 Phones are powerful enough to run engines locally.
@guitargod3545
@guitargod3545 Ай бұрын
​@@piergiorgio919lead toilet lmao
@guitargod3545
@guitargod3545 Ай бұрын
​@@Gamebusterdetect any and all emi, all possible frequencies and then just find them? I get you wouldn't be able to bring anything electronic in but at this point how else do you prevent someone from just bringing in a ipod
@meganaxelia
@meganaxelia Ай бұрын
… he cheated in such a dumb manner that I almost just don’t believe it. he didn’t even try to cover his bases. surely a GM isn’t THIS idiotic, or maybe I overestimated how intelligent GMs are off the board?
@AlTarif
@AlTarif Ай бұрын
Pattern recognition and memorization don't make you intelligent in many other important aspects of life.
@thederp9309
@thederp9309 Ай бұрын
@@Tihreerpeople tend to see patterns that aren’t there. And it only works for specific patterns because it’s based on experience… every human has pattern recognition, that’s why experience is so important when doing a task and getting better… the only thing that GMs spend most their time doing is chess… they actually are likely to be worse than average people because they hyper focus so much attention on one specific thing
@sentientbeing8738
@sentientbeing8738 Ай бұрын
@@Tihreer Depends on if its general pattern recogntion or specific. Chess is a very specific skill that is trained... well, specifically. Spotting a 5 move tactic on a board game instantly isnt exactly going to help you in other walks of life. For example, pattern recognition is how we learn, speak, and write languages. Being good at chess wont help you there. Its not a piece on a board.
@helium999_
@helium999_ Ай бұрын
or maybe he didn't cheat? or maybe he did and he really was dumb lol, but let's not make up conclusions ourselves before the investigation
@Riteshplayssomethin
@Riteshplayssomethin Ай бұрын
gms are normal. if you repeatedly do something for 10 yrs u r obv going to be better at it
@sorenliden
@sorenliden Ай бұрын
bro cheated and didn't even win 😭🙏
@ramunasstulga8264
@ramunasstulga8264 Ай бұрын
😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭💀🙏
@brianrathbone6046
@brianrathbone6046 Ай бұрын
**alledged
@mayi4403
@mayi4403 Ай бұрын
😂🤣😂
@cable7763
@cable7763 29 күн бұрын
@@brianrathbone6046 alleged*
@MrYoungHegelian
@MrYoungHegelian Ай бұрын
He is 100% cheating online if he is this bold to cheat OTB.
@jackavle
@jackavle Ай бұрын
17:54 a broken clock is right twice a day.
@jazzabighits4473
@jazzabighits4473 Ай бұрын
unless it's a digital clock
@davidmasse2829
@davidmasse2829 Ай бұрын
There is considerable circumstantial evidence here. He was waiting for that specific toilet for crying out loud.
@marcrob100
@marcrob100 Ай бұрын
Said who? The guy who left the phone and the weird note?
@KidHomeCook
@KidHomeCook Ай бұрын
Hmm, ranked 69 player got Banned. That's suspicious
@alveolate
@alveolate Ай бұрын
we should take a good look at ranked 420 player next
@danielcuestapambi732
@danielcuestapambi732 Ай бұрын
Mmm... Interesting
@1nonly_ai
@1nonly_ai Ай бұрын
dats weirddd...
@jvr6809
@jvr6809 Ай бұрын
Gm diddy combs
@claudiodimaio
@claudiodimaio Ай бұрын
69th like, that's sus too
@plushcap3320
@plushcap3320 Ай бұрын
can you imagine an alternate reality where magnus is just that good at cheating and not at chess?
@SimonVotte
@SimonVotte Ай бұрын
Had the same thought, it'd make a nice Black Mirror episode, where he would have a chip in his brain
@joaopedroandsan2172
@joaopedroandsan2172 Ай бұрын
​@@SimonVotteI can't just remember magnus being drunk af and still winning 😂😂
@yddmaven
@yddmaven Ай бұрын
IMAGINE BANNING GRANDMOTHERS!
@Machi--_--Komacine
@Machi--_--Komacine Ай бұрын
how am I gonna eat grandma's cookies again 😭
@Maxl12765
@Maxl12765 Ай бұрын
Or general managers
@Venerable_great_love
@Venerable_great_love Ай бұрын
Or gorgeous mom
@xxjbboiiixx6243
@xxjbboiiixx6243 Ай бұрын
Or gay menace
@alihijazi4451
@alihijazi4451 Ай бұрын
Or grant money
@kakalis2323
@kakalis2323 Ай бұрын
Oh no!! Kramnik will feel forever vindicated. I'm just waiting for him to accuse Magnus next. 😂😂
@zeejayym
@zeejayym 24 күн бұрын
The short attached to this video was so well edited and then the actual long-form video is essentially the opposite.
@kerkireos
@kerkireos Ай бұрын
Its the toilet variation, best counter diarhea counterattack
@WookieRookie
@WookieRookie Ай бұрын
On attack on flank, you should counterattack opponent's stomach
@kc_jones_gaming
@kc_jones_gaming Ай бұрын
I prefer the Pepto opening when I get attacked by that
@chrisb8698
@chrisb8698 Ай бұрын
Can't believe chess players are no longer allowed to say Good Morning to each other at tournaments. Crazy.
@DanacChess
@DanacChess Ай бұрын
Silence during games you know. Handshakes are still allowed. ( :
@張謙-n3l
@張謙-n3l Ай бұрын
Well, according to the rule, players should stay silent during the tournament
@KidHomeCook
@KidHomeCook Ай бұрын
0:37 Levy mentions magnus
@sscssc908
@sscssc908 Ай бұрын
I actually thought he is not going to but there you go, I hope he becomes gm too.
@ScootsMcPoot
@ScootsMcPoot Ай бұрын
who cares?
@sscssc908
@sscssc908 Ай бұрын
@@ScootsMcPoot your mom
@Ziabetus
@Ziabetus Ай бұрын
​@@ScootsMcPootI don't even play chess and have no idea what's going on but I still took this comment as a meme
@JonboyKoi
@JonboyKoi Ай бұрын
I honestly hate what chess has become, just yesterday, i ran into 3 online cheaters. I am officially falling out of love with chess, trolls and trash players ruin everything
@aldogutierrez6637
@aldogutierrez6637 Ай бұрын
I just kept playing until I found people who didn’t cheat. Then I sent them a friend request and we now play regularly 😅
@FC-fs7zp
@FC-fs7zp Ай бұрын
Exactly
@Rise6474
@Rise6474 Ай бұрын
New opening: the toliet variation, phoney attack gambit
@sammarks9146
@sammarks9146 Ай бұрын
My dad taught me that cheating is the worst thing you can do, so accusing someone of cheating, without solid evidence, is just about as bad. But man, there's some pretty good evidence.
@davidschneide5422
@davidschneide5422 Ай бұрын
He got caught because he didn’t wash his hands after leaving the stall, raising suspicion.
@Toshinben
@Toshinben Ай бұрын
Not washing your hands after using the bathroom is suspicious, regardless of context. Does Lex Luthor wash his hands? Thanos? Dormammu? No. Because they are villains.
@ghnbtrcv8672
@ghnbtrcv8672 Ай бұрын
Kramnik rubbing his hands with joy on this one 😂😂
@dmack9646
@dmack9646 Ай бұрын
Crazy theory, Kramnik or a kramnik like figure gave the guy a large amount of laxatives and planted a phone in the bathroom in order to continue the ongoing storyline of players cheating instead of getting good
@DenysBuryi
@DenysBuryi Ай бұрын
Honestly the story sounds so dumb I'm wondering
@gaborp123
@gaborp123 Ай бұрын
Victim is Ukrainian. Kramnik is Russian. Need more proof?
@uoio7540
@uoio7540 Ай бұрын
Laughed out loud at this 😂
@garf6615
@garf6615 Ай бұрын
Some people will always cheat. The massive positive is that the tournament and chess authorities have have not tried to hide this and are being open and proactive.
@loganroy3381
@loganroy3381 Ай бұрын
If you think everyone is cheating, of course you're going to be right about the people who actually are cheating.
@deadlychessplayer-of5cl
@deadlychessplayer-of5cl Ай бұрын
Given the situation these days, FIDE must allow players to wear diapers.
@WhyWhy-nf1tx
@WhyWhy-nf1tx Ай бұрын
This actually makes sense lol 😂
@billbolton
@billbolton Ай бұрын
Or commode chairs.
@bozbozman1575
@bozbozman1575 Ай бұрын
I can hold myself for 2,3 hours no problem.
@cukka99
@cukka99 Ай бұрын
@@bozbozman1575 Will this ever be relevant to fide?
@NourElHoudaHere
@NourElHoudaHere Ай бұрын
Get ready for a stinking chess hall then
@alessandromanera3805
@alessandromanera3805 Ай бұрын
18:08 “I’m not trying to get named in any 100 million dollar lawsuits” 😂
@johnnydoe3603
@johnnydoe3603 Ай бұрын
This is Actual Evidence & Not a Salty Opponent Complaining after Losing. 😊
@piergiorgio919
@piergiorgio919 Ай бұрын
This isn't evidence by any means
@Wobesz
@Wobesz Ай бұрын
​@@piergiorgio919 yes it is, it just isn't concrete proof. Important distinction I used to struggle with formerly as well.
@RevMonkey
@RevMonkey Ай бұрын
What were General Motors doing in the tournament anyway?
@vandy3427
@vandy3427 Ай бұрын
5.3L collapsed lifter variation
@yakonlap
@yakonlap Ай бұрын
Not to give kramnik credit but Kirill did win the last late Titled Tuesday
@sleazeberg
@sleazeberg Ай бұрын
🤣
@ScootsMcPoot
@ScootsMcPoot Ай бұрын
he was a world champion at one point, so i would expect him to win sometimes. People are acting like he didnt used to be the best in the world at one point in time.
@ChessJew
@ChessJew Ай бұрын
Chess is at a crisis point. If serious measures aren't taken ASAP, it's going to be hard to take chess seriously as a competitive endeavour.
@lomiification
@lomiification Ай бұрын
As long as folks get caught, it's doing fine
@josephmcbrien7646
@josephmcbrien7646 Ай бұрын
There isnt any security at this event. He got caught for being a complete redacted about it He left a hand written note on the phone 😂😂😂​@lomiification
@張謙-n3l
@張謙-n3l Ай бұрын
But the point is that it's very hard to do so. If you raise the threshold (like you only decide to ban one when you're 99.99% sure he's cheating), a lot of cheaters will escape; if you lower the threshold (like you ban someone when you're 95% sure), a lot of innocent players will be banned. BTW, in case you are interested, if we have an algorithm with the correct probably being x, then even if like Fabiano thought, 20% of the players are cheating, the chance of an accused "cheater" to be really cheating will be x/(4-3x). This means that even in this scenario, using an algorithm with 99% (0.99) accuracy, around 96% of accused ones are really cheating.
@Thealabsi
@Thealabsi Ай бұрын
​@@張謙-n3l I don't get it but your comment looks smart
@張謙-n3l
@張謙-n3l Ай бұрын
@@Thealabsi It's just applying Bayes' theorem to calculate the chance for one to be really cheating when they're accused
@18lolable
@18lolable Ай бұрын
Not using an free and open toilet stall and instead waiting for the specific one where a phone happens to be, is proof enough for me.
@andrewwilson9123
@andrewwilson9123 Ай бұрын
Yeah, that’s really suspicious
@NevirSurrender
@NevirSurrender 26 күн бұрын
It’s such an absurd situation for the evidence to be so comical that it’s either the cheater is extremely dumb, or they’re being set up 😂
@iceyroo
@iceyroo Ай бұрын
Kramnik is already here in the comments…
@kritic4622
@kritic4622 Ай бұрын
Phone in the toilet??? It is so obvious that I get the feeling someone framed him
@Navs006
@Navs006 Ай бұрын
And he played right into the trap by going to the washroom an abnormal amount of times
@meganaxelia
@meganaxelia Ай бұрын
Same. It’s bewilderingly dumb. Unfathomably stupid. How could a GM be this low IQ off the board?
@FEATDOXSHORTS
@FEATDOXSHORTS Ай бұрын
@@Navs006 stockfish level sarcasm! lol
@HXD90
@HXD90 Ай бұрын
⁠@@FEATDOXSHORTSYeah, if stockfish was set at 1ms.
@jaideepshekhar4621
@jaideepshekhar4621 Ай бұрын
And he was forced to stand infront of the stall containing the phone with tractor beams. And then erasing his memory. 😂
@thatonesub
@thatonesub Ай бұрын
Where’s my 3 seconds of uncomfortable staring and awkward silence at the start of the video??
@AgeOfNerds
@AgeOfNerds Ай бұрын
Kramnik: high precision, low accuracy
@davidcorcoran1715
@davidcorcoran1715 Ай бұрын
I learnt today that this channel is not a reference to batman.
@yoooyoyooo
@yoooyoyooo Ай бұрын
The way he did it with a note on the phone is hilarious. Imagine a smartphone with that message in a hall where chess is being played. Just ridiculous.
@mrpocock
@mrpocock Ай бұрын
It does make you wonder what somebody who isn't a social idiot could do.
@psymar
@psymar Ай бұрын
Which is why I don't believe for a second this is real and not a frame job.
@rickcarson591
@rickcarson591 Ай бұрын
@@psymar explain then why he wouldn't happily use the other bathroom stalls and insisted on only using the one with the locked phone with his handwriting on it? If he was being stitched up he'd have to (a) know about it and (b) be cooperating with the people trying to frame him. (Unless the other stalls were _super gross_ ofc :D )
@TroyHanns
@TroyHanns Ай бұрын
​@rickcarson591 True and he said his stomach wasn't good but he went and ate a extra spicy burrito right after the match.
@HeartFallsApart
@HeartFallsApart Ай бұрын
This is crazy.. I thought he was in the Candidates a few years ago, until I realized I confused the names with Alekseenko.
@G-chess_channel
@G-chess_channel Ай бұрын
Yeah. If Alekseenko got accuses it would be absolutely crazy
@HeartFallsApart
@HeartFallsApart Ай бұрын
@@G-chess_channel yeah, but it’s a catastrophe that there’s still cheating in chess.
@hoxley1307
@hoxley1307 Ай бұрын
In a game that a computer can play better than a human there will forever be cheaters
@Dawnthensunset3839
@Dawnthensunset3839 Ай бұрын
It's funny that this is the second time a GM has cheated in a toilet. How low do you have to be when you already have the title and all and you still cheat
@Machi--_--Komacine
@Machi--_--Komacine Ай бұрын
Fr. like just get good, smh
@Epidombe
@Epidombe Ай бұрын
Its for the money isnt it?
@ragegaze3482
@ragegaze3482 Ай бұрын
@@Epidombe ye, title has nothing to do with it. I doubt gm's are making bank without good results.
@ItsJared___
@ItsJared___ Ай бұрын
My ex girlfriend also cheated in a toilet. Coincidence?
@siddhantgarodia3381
@siddhantgarodia3381 Ай бұрын
​@ItsJared___ was she a grandmother too?
@Alilouxxx
@Alilouxxx Ай бұрын
You’re a good dude man! Been following u for years thank you very much for the hard work you put in Saw u up, sometimes down, most of us do not comment but still support you and are grateful for your content. Don’t let haters get the best of you, one of ur best qualities is that you care abt the game and the people in it. Keep it up ! A lot of us are looking forward to seeing ur content everyday Lots of love and positive energy from Morocco brother !
@dangerdogs3967
@dangerdogs3967 17 күн бұрын
0:28 Sir, a second chess cheating scandal has hit the chess community
@noamcohen1709
@noamcohen1709 Ай бұрын
Welp, at least after the title i knew it wasnt you that got banned
@decisivemoment
@decisivemoment Ай бұрын
You skipped my favorite part "the cleaner revealing that a similar phone had been found there the day before and left unclaimed after it was handed in to the reception". Maybe it should be said to cleaners in tournament venues to let the organizers know if they find phones in the bathroom?
@cyanidecologne9018
@cyanidecologne9018 Ай бұрын
Forgetting / finding phones in bathrooms is really common especially if you're a cleaner
@decisivemoment
@decisivemoment Ай бұрын
@@cyanidecologne9018 That's precisely why they should be told to report such findings on tournament days! It's quite relevant info, in particular if nobody picks up the phone afterwards
@NeonJosef
@NeonJosef Ай бұрын
No it isn’t, what are you talking about?!
@decisivemoment
@decisivemoment Ай бұрын
@@cyanidecologne9018 That's precisely why they should be told to report such findings on tournament days! It's quite relevant info, in particular if nobody picks up the phone afterwards
@decisivemoment
@decisivemoment Ай бұрын
@cyanidecologne9018 That's precisely why they should be told to report such findings on tournament days! It's quite relevant info, in particular if nobody picks up the phone afterwards
@Daily_meme_and_more
@Daily_meme_and_more Ай бұрын
GETTING BANNED IS CRAZY🥶🥶🥶
@vinayranga2211
@vinayranga2211 Ай бұрын
He left a note with the phone, means he expected people to see it and ignore the phone. It sounds so dumb assuming other players in the tournament would be using the same toilet.
@rorro6281
@rorro6281 Ай бұрын
4:14 You really nailed that name, I was surprised you could pronounce it almost perfectly
@mitho947
@mitho947 Ай бұрын
Cheating is a big problem for chess. So sad that people need to cheat to win. They should give his GM title to Levi. He deserves it much more.
@Accrovideogames
@Accrovideogames Ай бұрын
There isn't a finite number of GM titles to give. It's also not something that can be transferred.
@purrpurr6618
@purrpurr6618 Ай бұрын
Hes already the ultimate sgm of clickbait
@robinesperoza
@robinesperoza Ай бұрын
Nah, I love Levi but he doesn't deserve a GM title until he gets there, hope he does but he's got work to do.
@MountainLabsYT
@MountainLabsYT Ай бұрын
Kramnik: "I told you he was a cheater..."
@SHADOW21_08
@SHADOW21_08 Ай бұрын
0:00 levy is not happy
@hyperchaz1506
@hyperchaz1506 Ай бұрын
26:07 get out of here
@Frazzledragon
@Frazzledragon Ай бұрын
That kind of cheating is just embarassing. A handwritten note, phone in the bathroom stall? At least hide it, use duct tape or something.
@eurabio
@eurabio Ай бұрын
The handwritten note makes no sense. When I heard about that I thought it must be a set-up, but also it was very weird that Kiril went to that specific WC. I just don't understand why the arbiters didn't try to get him in fraganti and instead shut down the toilet.
@MrVovansim
@MrVovansim Ай бұрын
Just goes to show, again, that being good at chess does not correlate to general intelligence. Imagine being told by the arbiter: don't go to the bathroom without me any more -- and still doing it. Arbiter straight up told you he is suspicious, and you keep cheating? What do you think is going to happen??
@rohancr2688
@rohancr2688 Ай бұрын
kramnik being right about this is kinda like how a broken clock is right twice a day
@SchadenfreudeUY
@SchadenfreudeUY Ай бұрын
5:14 very good Spanish there
@Clusten
@Clusten Ай бұрын
Just fail with "dejó" and "contestara", but pass huesped. 9/10
@iV587
@iV587 Ай бұрын
This channel went from the best chess educational channel, to the best chest recap channel, now to a random commentary channel?
@ganges12345
@ganges12345 Ай бұрын
Truly a humble video - honestly great stuff, trying to understand and considering the human behind the cheater! Lots of respect and karma points for this attitude Gotham
@toaster4693
@toaster4693 Ай бұрын
I despise cheaters. We need to start emphasizing the concept of honor as one of the most important societal virtues.
@parazightsporch2523
@parazightsporch2523 Ай бұрын
The person in this video lets his emotions dominate his life.
@GothamChess
@GothamChess Ай бұрын
Which person?
@avalope
@avalope Ай бұрын
@@GothamChessthe person duh!!
@CharlesShorts
@CharlesShorts Ай бұрын
@@GothamChess me
@OpposingFork
@OpposingFork Ай бұрын
​@@GothamChess got hams chess
@Thirsty555
@Thirsty555 Ай бұрын
14:25 Bro just casually dropping GothamChess lore
@joakobm60
@joakobm60 25 күн бұрын
pretty sure the note was badly translated from another language probably english, most likely they put "the owner wil pick it up at night" to translate to spanish, which would translate to "el dueño lo recojera por la noche", but in english "pick up the phone" can also mean to respond a call, and in spanish that trasnlate to "contestar el telefono" as is written in the note.
@alexpurdy673
@alexpurdy673 Ай бұрын
Whenever someone asks why high level players cheat, in any format, I always defer to Karl Jobst: [High level] cheaters don’t cheat to get good records, they cheat to get good records faster
@brumetaru
@brumetaru Ай бұрын
A broken clock is right twice a day.
@al87221
@al87221 Ай бұрын
This cleared Kramnik’s bad reputation
@anvithpalat9953
@anvithpalat9953 Ай бұрын
ye but... Kramnik isn't a clock or broken. He is the old guy that yells "GET OFF MY LAWN!!!!!!!" when ur on the other side of the sidewalk
@cannotfigureoutaname
@cannotfigureoutaname Ай бұрын
​@@al87221If you put every human in this world in jail, you'll get every single criminal too, it didn't clear his reputation.
@douglasquaid7550
@douglasquaid7550 Ай бұрын
He will have to put the fries in the bag instead of playing chess after this.
@TheTakenName
@TheTakenName Ай бұрын
Oh no! NOT MY GRAND MOTHER BEING BANNED!
@thespanishinquisition475
@thespanishinquisition475 Ай бұрын
Kramnik feels like that washed up old man that accuses everyone
@somewhereundergroundpodcas8425
@somewhereundergroundpodcas8425 Ай бұрын
That Houston line hit deep
@adomaskuzinas2137
@adomaskuzinas2137 Ай бұрын
Why would Shevchenko risk his intgrity just for some random league games? We all know from his GCT appearances he is able to hold his own against high rated GMs, even in blitz or rapid chess. Maybe theres more to this story than meets the eye.
@wahbi79
@wahbi79 Ай бұрын
He is not risking anything had he gotten away with it
@KemestA7X
@KemestA7X Ай бұрын
Wait so if I bet all my money and win, I didn't actually risk it because I won? ​@@wahbi79
@carlosdumbratzen6332
@carlosdumbratzen6332 Ай бұрын
Let's put on the tinfoil hat: this was some kind of conspiracy to paint the Ukrainian team by the FSB or something and Kramnik is obviously also paid by the Russian state and this is only another move in the information war around the Ukraine war
@mako2026
@mako2026 Ай бұрын
0:01 ladies and gentlemen
@valeraBS13
@valeraBS13 Ай бұрын
thank you
@revenantronin8377
@revenantronin8377 Ай бұрын
Kramnik is the personification of the saying, "Even a broken clock is right twice" or whatever.
@dmitripogosian5084
@dmitripogosian5084 Ай бұрын
Well given that even Caruana estimates that 1 in 5 titled Tuesday players cheat, you can easily be doing better than a broken clock
@LeonB04_
@LeonB04_ Ай бұрын
Kramnik having a field day today
@tvrskkngdm2333
@tvrskkngdm2333 Ай бұрын
Dubov said more than Kramnik. And explained his thoughts. Yet everybody smile.
@zloaay47
@zloaay47 Ай бұрын
As an Egyptian, I definitely told gotham to make a collab with Amin
@productivearab9438
@productivearab9438 Ай бұрын
MASR OUM EL DONYA
@ozkupelaileenyc4330
@ozkupelaileenyc4330 Ай бұрын
You already know he is going to absolutely milk this scandal to the very last drop 💀
@ericanton7
@ericanton7 Ай бұрын
those are ladies glasses
@tofusauce
@tofusauce 8 күн бұрын
There was no smoking gun for niemann, there was a smoking plug
@notme222
@notme222 Ай бұрын
Levy siding with Batman villains is the least surprising thing.
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