Biggest Chess Cheating Scandal Ever

[@GothamChess]

I knew once beads were involved, we had to see a recap on Charlie's channel

[@Allen-wo8yi]

Do you really think he could have used beads

[@MIDO44444]

@@Allen-wo8yi not in a million years

[@iceyroo]

Hey just subbed to your channel!

[@ikkyu15]

@@Allen-wo8yi The real crazy part is that he had the beads in, but wasn't using them to cheat.

[@flay8727]

Hello chess daddy

[@expy3589]

When Hans wins a game, it typically just makes his day. But when Hans wins against Magnus, it makes his hole weak.

[@klayer9990]

Goddammit

[@warrenjoseph76]

💀 😂

[@cooperswan534]

that took me a minute

[@DROGOC0P]

LOOOL

[@yonigolombek3335]

This is great

[@haples2338]

Clearly Hans had a mirror on the ceiling so that he could see Magnus's moves.

[@luispagano]

Underrated comment

[@matattacks8724]

A secret disciple of Hikaru Hans is I see

[@notfunny3397]

That's genius

[@womankisserjermaluvr]

my first thought was "but everyone would notice because he'd be looking up" and i think that solidifies my very saddening conclusion that i am genuinely dumb as hell

[@bruh......2005]

Some naruto chunin exam cheating strat

[@jushthehermit]

Imagine being a chess GRANDMASTER, and instead of studying chess lines, you choose to study morse code for BUTTHOLE CHEATING.

[@LHHELPS]

Lmao that's dedication... give the man who puts the beads in the win

[@s.c.2180]

And also decided to learn from a secret agent how to hide any expressions provoked by a thing vibrating in that hole.

[@pruthvirajshinde9991]

Well the fact that your opponent is one of the longest running world champions in all formats of chess should be enough of a motivation... especially when you're 19

[@tolman4497]

@@pruthvirajshinde9991 Not to ruin the fun but Hans wasn’t originally going to be against him and he only found out last minute

[@RazorM97]

Che̶s̶s̶eating grandmaster

[@primecalibur]

Imagining Magnus just hearing the vibration every few turns and seeing Neiman make a face every time lol

[@primecalibur]

@true gaymer yes

[@nourmuhsen]

LMAO

[@jplouthelgm5156]

😐😐😐😐😖😳☺😐😐😐😐😐

[@Akumo69]

I'm crying laughing rn

[@CoOlKyUbI96]

What if Hans is secretly a nudist and this is all a big brain move so he can play chess butt naked?

[@dizzyhq5100]

It’s straight up embarrassing that the Chess devs haven’t patched this yet, even though the game is over a thousand years old

[@demoman5864]

Fr sad they are letting the game get overtaken by cheaters and bots.

[@atomic-law7764]

They need to nerf the white team on god

[@Joe-y9t3w]

Also we really need a queen nerf

[@woomp9855]

@@demoman5864 speaking of bots shiii they didnt reply lol

[@Shuzkka420]

Fr man, they are just really lazy.

[@expy3589]

Hans didnt just beat Magnus, he rectum

[@NN-ms9sg]

this is bloody underrated

[@mimix9242]

I audibly chuckled

[@muchmeister1802]

amazing

[@gtlance1918]

Good one 👍

[@obscure.reference]

damn near killed im

[@mikego7325]

Commentator: “So, why did you play Queen to d4?” Hans: “I guess you could say I had a ‘feeling’ deep inside it was the right move.”

[@oenrn]

It was a gut feeling.

[@christiankneupper7011]

@@oenrnHe just Believed the heart of the cards. or heart of the pieces

[@sickegless9years452]

"Chess speaks for itself " -Hans Neiman

[@jacobnair6707]

He felt a little tingling sensation that that was the right move.

[@aniketroy2656]

@@jacobnair6707 Peter tingle

[@ReklawLah]

Magnus basically stepped into a crowded elevator, ripped the stinkiest fart of all time, and then got off on the next floor.

[@xxyvng6831]

I just did that

[@deftrascal1626]

LMAOOOO

[@kminek6548]

@I noone cares

[@tylere.8436]

Just like Trump after Jan 6, some just won't accept the results

[@Your_choise]

@@kminek6548 ignore trolls

[@acatreassuresyouthateveryt7842]

For anyone new, Charlie is professional actor turned chess player. His talent was shown in pogchamp, he checkmated his opponent in less than 10 turn

[@Self_Evident]

Who's Charlie??

[@acatreassuresyouthateveryt7842]

@@Self_Evident ah sorry not to elaborate, Charlie or Charles White Jr. is penguinz0

[@Xirree]

@@acatreassuresyouthateveryt7842 who is penguinz0

[@kripiece]

@@Xirree ah sorry not to elaborate, penguinz0 is known as MoistCr1TiKaL or just Cr1TiKaL

[@johnr797]

@@kripiece You should elaborate further, he is known to many as Jesus Christ of Nazareth.

[@Mette_Abildgaard]

For some reason, cheating allegations in professional chess are so much wilder than in any other game. A few years ago, Anna Rudolf was accused of hiding a supercomputer in her lip balm. Yep, you read that correctly; a supercomputer in a fucking lip balm. If nothing else, you gotta admire the creative thinking of the accusers, though I think they may have read too many James Bond novels.

[@TheFieryWind99]

Or MacGyver episodes, whichever you prefer.

[@highlander723]

This came across my feed by chance but I find it really interesting... for the record I don't play chess I really played it a couple of times and that was years ago. But I do watch a lot of sports and sometimes the underdog Who has absolutely no chance whatsoever sometimes pulls it out. cheating is a very harsh allegation in any sport. I would imagine chess is no different. However one thing that I'm noticing here is these are allegations and very creative ones. from an outside perspective there are two possibilities. either this guy pulled off one of the greatest upsets in chess history apparently from the way you guys are talking about it. or he did cheat but there's no evidence that he did other than speculation and accusation which don't hold water.

[@AirNeat]

How could he fit a computer in a lip balm??? How could he fit a computer in his pocket????

[@alex2005z]

@@AirNeat fitting a computer into your pocket is easy. Let me remind you you dont need a laptop, something smaller than your phone would work

[@ShihammeDarc]

You don't need a supercomputer to play chess, a computer that could beat anyone in chess could easily fit in a lip balm.

[@dylanvickers7953]

Hikaru brought up a more legit conspiracy of what Magnus is actually concerned with. Magnus was suspicious that there was a mole on his team leaking his strats and lines. So the theory is that he played a really obscure line to watch Hans directly play against it proving to himself someone on his team is betraying him. He left the tournament not because he was mad about the L but because someone on his team has violated his trust. He hasn’t accused Hans of anything in public because the beef is personal and within his team.

[@adamruiz6460]

Ahh thank you this makes so much more sense

[@tylersmart6488]

That really seems in line with Magnus, actually

[@TheSupremeHaloMaster]

That makes more sense

[@masonmcgann]

this is a good theory honestly

[@lebanthen]

I'm guessing you discuss the strategy w your team before the match? Or how would anyone know he was gonna play the rare line?

[@unknownvariable9239]

The biggest thing is “where is Magnus in all of this?“ it’s absolutely ridiculous that everyone is fighting over absolutely no information.

[@mannyballs5751]

He started it didn’t he? He posted the “I don’t know I can’t say” or something. I’m pretty sure he was salty he lost. The dude could’ve cheated but he did a shitty move.

[@daggerdick6973]

@@mannyballs5751 Magnus has never called out anyone for cheating unless it was blatantly obvious, even in games he was absolutely crushed in, he is always a good loser and friendly player. Thats why this stands out. He doesn't get "salty" without reason

[@TheRailwaystationist]

Magnus was made aware of, or was possibly already aware of Hans's previous cheating, so he left the tournament. I really believe that is all there is to it. The guy had like 50+ wins in a row, and didn't want to lose to a possible cheater. Let's give Hans a few more opportunities and see how he does. If he truly is good enough to beat the greatest of all time.. something something.

[@mannyballs5751]

@@daggerdick6973 anal beads are obvious? I’m not saying the dude who went against him didn’t cheat but he had know way of knowing. Furthermore it’s a dick move to just say it and leave your fans without explanation target someone else.

[@lovescomedy619]

@@daggerdick6973 😂

[@JordanTylerVincent]

What gave it away is that he came his pants about 10 minutes into the match

[@rabd3721]

And then Magnus was like "I'LL HAVE WHAT HE'S HAVING!"

[@IllusionSector]

@@rabd3721 I wonder if a presidential candidate fluent in Morse code can win the debate... and orgasm in the process.

[@parknich081]

what

[@Binowhy]

@@parknich081 Prostate stimulation makes you bust, that’s the joke

[@nejamin]

Why doesn’t this comment have more likes lol

[@Lassenissen]

I find it incredibly hilarious that Niemann is 19 but looks 40, and Carlsen is 31 but looks 19.

[@EdgiB0Do]

Maybe its the beads 😳

[@DickDickDikc]

Magnis also acts like he is 19

[@joshualeahy2162]

@@EdgiB0Do 👀😏

[@kolizeum9]

Whatever kind of drugs you’re using I need cuz you’re baked af

[@Thatdudewiththedogs]

1. That’s just not even true really. 2. Why is that hilarious?…

[@soberhippie3618]

This takes "listen to your gut" to a whole new level

[@caseyb1346]

Nice one, gave me a good belly laugh.

[@machomannco.4569]

It probably did make his belly laugh too.

[@weerobot]

😂

[@definitely_vincible]

as a former chess player that was active for only two weeks this is truly heartbreaking on a personal level, i never expected something like this out of our community

[@Danstry]

ya’ll didn’t even watch the video it is extremely unlikely hans cheated

[@sammymiller7857]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 🤣🤣🤣

[@accuratememin]

@@Danstry That's the joke. The comment is satire. His credibility line is literally "I played chess for two weeks."

[@definitely_vincible]

@@NiceBigHampter bro you acting like you had enough time to watch it in full either, it was uploaded like one minute before my comment

[@Lamiishere]

Cringe af.

[@FRIGTARD123]

I've always considered chess a pain in the ass sometimes but not like this

[@napkinbob4689]

funni

[@Local_Laydee]

Who said it was painful 😉

[@simonmcleish2002]

This puts a new meaning to the phrase 'Gut Instinct'

[@Crouton-]

@@Local_Laydee Amen brother 😏

[@thetalantonx]

Q: "Where the hell did you come up with that move?" A: "I just pulled it out of my ass."

[@preciousadedibu1821]

This is the only cheating "scandal" i've ever seen without any evidence whatsoever.

[@tylere.8436]

Almost like the 2020 election

[@GameSquad306]

@@tylere.8436 this mfer just lit a fire in this comment section LMAO

[@tylere.8436]

@@GameSquad306 This video was basically asking for it. I figured I'd make the rabbit hole more deeper.

[@b23beatz]

It's suspicious

[@marlarki5280]

You don't get it, he's acting really sus in interview!!!!!! That's conclusive prove that he cheated!!!

[@Laimy88]

Imagine he didn't cheat, and he beat Magnus whilst being stimulated.

[@lolasdm6959]

fires up all his nerouns

[@Tiger_Swallowtail_]

@@lolasdm6959LMFAO

[@Bendilin]

Turns out he wasn't cheating, his partner was just super adamant about him wearing a Lovesense during the match and kept teasing his prostate.

[@spike5499]

LMFAOOO

[@burntchickennugget8142]

Oh-k 💀

[@wiggindorfthemagnificent]

Well, I mean he won so clearly anal is a winning strat

[@Numbabu]

New chess meta. Prostate simulation increases (gameplay) performance. All High level players will be adopting this technology from now on.

[@LeatherNinja]

Where did this information come out

[@LordMajicus]

If Hans cheated, it was almost certainly by have someone leak Magnus' prep ahead of time so Hans could study that one line. This would explain why he weirdly said he studied such a rare line, and it would explain why Magnus dropped out - if someone on his team is leaking his prep, he wouldn't want to play more games until he can find out who is doing it.

[@sujatadasroy4269]

now that could be true , although i dont really know enough about the situation lol

[@nafinbong9222]

Thats literally impossible. The world champion trains with a very small and tight group.

[@MonkeyDLuffy60073]

@@nafinbong9222 It's not literally impossible, you showed how with your comment, it could be part of the group.

[@JYouTube123]

the kid won both games, the chess game and the reality game, magnus is in fear and panic, not all that surprising if you watch footage of how emotionally magnus reacted alot of the times when he lose, elon musk knows the reality game very well, thats why he is laughing bhind his iphone now, like it or not everyone is playing the reality game voluntarily or involuntarily

[@ding809]

@@JKZbin123 Take your meds.

[@MegaFreefaller]

Lol, you can literally watch Charlie's hair dry as the video progresses.

[@WesFallaw]

That's funny af

[@saqibanjummasoodi]

🤣🤣🤣🤣...spot on

[@eliastk9108]

😂

[@LikeAGroove]

lmao

[@hish33p32]

Yoo lmfao

[@sudazima]

UPDATE: In a subsequent tournament magnus carlsen and hans niemann were to face of again, and magnus simply forfeited that match immediately.

[@freakydino9872]

Because the perfect counter was played on an obscure opening most likely pointing to a mole in Magnus' tram

[@cummerchant542]

@@freakydino9872 confirmed ?

[@puzzLEGO]

Something to note is that Hans did not play the best moves most of the time, and played a few sub-optimal moves which could have sabotaged his gameplay. So, at the very least, he was still able to execute the win with some of his own moves.

[@snickersnacker4502]

This could potentially have been him throwing in his own moves on occasion to help throw off anyone who might think he's using a bot. Purposely choosing not to follow the moves on occasion just to further hide the moves that were from an AI. Or to avoid moves that would more obviously be made by an AI. That's just a potential idea though. Would still be risky throwing in his own moves either way if he was cheating. But this is all still assuming he did cheat with this line of thought. No way to say for sure until someone comes out and says it with the authority to say so.

[@puzzLEGO]

@@snickersnacker4502 yes, cheaters do intentionally not pick the best move but that would involve the computer relaying all the top 10 moves to him because sometimes he plays a move which is fine but not in the realm of even the top 5 computer recommended

[@nonmagicalwitch]

Didnt feel the vibration the right way I guess

[@snickersnacker4502]

@@puzzLEGO Lets be honest, the scariest and most powerful cheaters would be the ones that actually have the skills to back themselves up without the cheats.... Though the idea of him having to casually sit through over ten moves worth of Morse code vibrations is hilarious.

[@WolfieXp]

@@puzzLEGO The thing about chess cheaters in pro settings like this is that the person cheating is already insanely good at the game. Even if Hans were to cheat, it's safe to assume that he'd already be amazing at the game without cheats anyway, so he wouldn't need the bot to tell him the top 10 moves, since the move he'd do with his own skill is most likely already in the top 10.

[@analoghabits9217]

The most compelling theory imo is that carlsen has suspected for a while that someone on his prep team has been leaking info, so he chose an obscure line & behold, niemann just happened to have studied that kind of line for their match. When he asserts that he never cheated over the board, he could still feel truthful if the cheating was during prep off the board.

[@Anonymous-hm9dc]

this is bullshit by the way lol I can't believe this theory is so popular

[@perspectiveotaku3438]

That theory makes sense and blurs the line of cheating too

[@Anonymous-hm9dc]

​@@perspectiveotaku3438 yes, Magnus' seconds who have known him for 15 years decided to leak preparation to some random grandmaster in a classical event. People who don't actively play tournament chess don't realize that preparation is a two way street. You can't just leak some preparation, if you leaked some, you have to leak all of it, because his prep is also based on what his opponent's moves. and are kept in large databanks. And if you try to tell me that Magnus Carlsen, world champion, was outprepped by someone who looked at his prep that morning and he has been looking at it for years, I'd think you were delusional. (I.e Hans recieved a wildcard to be in this event; he knew about his participation for a week max. and if you try to squeeze 10 years of world championship level preparation into a week, good luck lol) This also means Magnus is a bigger piece of shit than ever before because if that's the case, he just let a 19 year old kid get harrassed on the internet for two weeks when a 5 word tweet could've stopped it if it was a prep leak. Also, Magnus' seconds have already come out on chess24 saying that theory isn't true at all ^_^ but it's plausible because that's' what you want to cling to. If you ignore all the facts, then anything can make sense.

[@AirNeat]

@@Anonymous-hm9dc The people who possibly leaked it came out and said they didn't leak it? Really, that's your evidence?

[@Anonymous-hm9dc]

@@AirNeat is your theory that his entire prep team betrayed him? Yeah didn’t think so.

[@loustalk8227]

this is one of the few times that reality has out-weirded Charlie's analogies

[@rickeykoga2312]

We are truly living in a simulation

[@plootyluvsturtle9843]

pun intended?

[@apossiblyhereticalalphaleg3595]

it's honestly impressive

[@scorpion0498]

ANALogies... heh. I wanted the first pun but someone already bead me to it ;-;

[@michaelgove9349]

It's not cheating. Hans just has a firm grasp of his opening. - Edit : No, I just mean... he's tight in the fundaments...

[@xinpingdonohoe3978]

Next time you put an edit part in your comment, you might as well edit your comment.

[@michaelgove9349]

​@@xinpingdonohoe3978 Sorry, I never edit any comments. No exceptions. But you could always edit yours, and then tell me your spelling mistake was all part of the plan.

[@xinpingdonohoe3978]

@@michaelgove9349 you fool. That was all part of the plan. My comment is now edited, and your comment shows that it's actually an edit.

[@homk_FX]

@@xinpingdonohoe3978 mans 6 moves ahead

[@oenrn]

Best one so far.

[@craig5322]

If Joel Haver hadn't invented the term "insano style" a few months ago, humans would have no language to describe this event. Thank you Joel

[@justkingsley9244]

This comment goes insano style.

[@attithemusician]

I caught it in the video and thought man the way he just used insaneo style was pretty insaneo style

[@yeetwchybaban]

Crazy

[@DCCLXII]

Thank you Joel

[@Luddle_Puddle]

Insaneo style goes insaneo style

[@grizzfan12]

As a chess player on cool math games for approximatley 30 minutes, im so sad that this happened

[@ixilancerixi3195]

Imagine being so good at Chess that when you lose everyone instantly thinks your opponent cheated. Seen vids about him, can definitely understand why they would think that.

[@maxmoralescastro9876]

yeah, the main problem is that, Magnus has lost before but he has never done something like that + the interview that was so sus. I think is just an accumulation of factors that crated the whole problem and not just one specific thing.

[@jdjnfjb827]

It's not that he was too good(he is) but that Hans is really bad Statistically Hans should have won 1 in every 100 games vs Magnus Which is just nuts that Hans won

[@MattM-oe6qs]

@@jdjnfjb827 if he loses the next 99 then the statistic is validated. No one said he has to lose the 99 first.

[@jdjnfjb827]

@@MattM-oe6qs that's not how statistics work bro... LOL It means that's there's a 1% chance every game of Hans winning and a 99% chance of Magnus winning every game If we translate that and add on to it the fact that Hans is a known cheater, knew all the 20 initial machine movements of an Opening that Magnus had never played before and also couldn't explain his though process for his moves Then I think that maybe he cheated

[@Grant849]

@@jdjnfjb827 in reality it's a high probability, cause he won so. . .

[@regisphilbin529]

"We thoroughly felt Hans up and found nothing" "Well you didn't check his colon"

[@FlorianWendelborn]

He’s also misrepresenting this. The footage shown of the tighter security was added after Magnus withdrew. As far as I know there was no wanding before the match with Magnus.

[@jaketstephens3932]

Imagine all the Grandmasters having to admit to a full cavity search before playing.

[@busta-_-busta9165]

I would every time 😏

[@chanr9531]

Wtf I’m becoming a GM now

[@Sneeds_Feed_And_Seed69]

@@busta-_-busta9165 Fruiity

[@skoochoo5851]

When Charlie first mentioned the anal beads, I thought it was just a wild analogy to explain how crazy the situation was. I was shocked when he pulled up articles of people actually accusing the dude of using anal beads 😂

[@hyp3rhippo]

It sounds like such a Charlie analogy too

[@RemyWillard]

The only reason I wasn't surprised was because I saw Elon Musk share on Twitter a Reddit post suggesting that the beads were responsible for Magnus being the top chess player for as long as he has been.

[@matattacks8724]

@@RemyWillard Hence why he left and didn't report. He's pretty guilty af lmao

[@akaRyuka]

ah yes, an ANALogy

[@bohrierpokemonvideos392]

reddit is stupid

[@paquio100]

As someone who has won one game of chess in his life, this is earth shattering for me. I am not okay.

[@dooflydetailguuy4349]

I beat Randy in middle school and he refused to shake my hand.

[@SquishySharkTV]

I beat a guy in chess several months ago and now he's in prison. Checkmate, my dude.

[@maspesasmasperras5554]

As a rectal chess master this is ok

[@dreamybuster]

As a penial chess gm I concur

[@valleyluvsU]

never played, no opinion 🥹

[@MarieAntoinetteandherlittlesis]

Interviewer- “Hans, how do you feel about this huge upset over Carlson today?” Hans- “BzzzzzzzzzzzzzZz”

[@Miss_All_Sundays]

If that man was able to get a high level chess win by reading vibrations with his rectum, I say let him keep it.

[@TheSun_TheMoon_TheStar]

facts

[@Cheapducky]

As someone who recently learned their computer comes bundled with a chess app, I can't believe our community would devolve to such meaningless drama.

[@Hydro-_-]

"meaningless" you do realize these are their careers and professional chess is more dignified than you can imagine.

[@roykoopa4real]

@@Hydro-_- 🤓🤓🤓🤓

[@kookthekid8338]

@@Hydro-_- lives aren’t on the line and they play a game for a living. This is the literally definition of meaningless drama. It’s like a baseball pitcher getting caught with stickum. Literally meaningless.

[@Hydro-_-]

@@roykoopa4real nah but the anal beads is funny asf

[@alhassanalsumali6103]

@@Hydro-_- i know right cheating in chess what’s next the apocalypse

[@jonnydont3393]

I love how Charlies mind works man, I mean, he goes "For those unfamiliar with CHESS" arguably the most popular and well known board game in the entire world, however, he goes on to discuss anal beads as if we are all already familiar with the product.

[@ShaftersUploads]

People know chess exists, but Id wager a fair amount of people have never even played a proper game of it. Anal Beads is pretty self explanatory ngl. Idk im tired rn man

[@TaoScribble]

I'm confident in assuming that far, FAR more of my coworkers have intimate knowledge of anal beads than of chess. They might _kinda_ know what the pieces look like, but that's it. Kids ain't exactly shy about their interests, man. XD

[@kenirainseeker539]

I've never played chess in my life so

[@GrugTheJust]

@@ShaftersUploads Exactly the term "Chess" provides zero context to what it even is to anyone unfamiliar with the term, "anal beads" leaves no doubt.

[@trequor]

@@BeFourCM Funny but for real this is true. He can expect most of his viewers to be familiar with sex toys, as he has worked with them many times before. But he has only done chess a few times and rarely on youtube

[@TBH_Inc]

9:04 “and they did receive punishment for it” why did my mind jump to taking them down to the torture dungeon

[@johnnyyy_wentghost]

Charlie is and forever will be god tier level commentary

[@Mcspazz731]

I would say Jesus tier

[@KanaIzumiya]

@@Mcspazz731 Dang, it's rare to see someone comment before the bot.

[@Martha_My_Dear]

I agree but the tone of his voice really tires me after one or two videos. It's just monotonous.

[@cryism7798]

w comment

[@MucketyMuck]

@@KanaIzumiya this comment you’re replying under is a bot comment, so technically he didn’t

[@pinkfedoras]

its actually insane how anal beads and chess could be connected like this. the world is truly unexpecting

[@myjobsucks]

I hate being that guy but I think you mean unpredictable. "Unexpecting" makes it sound like your some kind of super villain about to unleash a plague of anal beads on chess players.

[@atlassolid5946]

@@myjobsucks who says they're not?

[@icouldntthinkofagoodname7216]

Aynaaaaaalll beeeeeads Aynal beeeads Some guy in pink tight pajama suit.

[@tylere.8436]

It's also insane how no one is comparing this to the 2020 election, most fair and secure. lmao

[@BotFisherman]

@@tylere.8436 because nobody's thinkin about past elections, we're focusing on how someone could cheat with high tech anal beads in chess

[@sator_project]

Magnus makes one tweet. The entire chess community tries to guess the next 5 moves.

[@Spartan_Jackal]

1:24 That was definitely a string of words that I never expected to hear put together

[@iimlazyy]

As a guy that has only played chess once years ago in school and lost This has me quaking, shaking on my bed i am absolutely quintuckeled insano indeed

[@personexistingnot]

Indubitably.

[@NotUrProfile]

@@personexistingnot 🧐

[@mrred9474]

Hans was probably shaking too.

[@breymantis]

@@mrred9474 hans kim

[@mac_sour]

@@mrred9474 probably from all of the anal bead vibrations during the match, i wouldn't blame him 🤪🤤😫

[@TheDarkLasombra]

I love how Charlie always decides to take a shower 15 mins before he films.

[@Ali-se3gb]

What's wrong with that

[@shnmraari9943]

@@Ali-se3gb Op literally says he loved how he does.

[@lilsquatch5567]

His name IS moist...

[@wippo42]

@@shnmraari9943 it can reasonably be interpreted as sarcasm imo

[@randygarbrecht3185]

He should get head&shoulders as a sponsor

[@napoleanblownafart8472]

This trick has been around for years, Back in '72 I beat Kasparov with a Commodore Pet shoved up my ass. Man did that thing throw a lot of heat. Anyways, I feel sorry for the guy with the wand who will now have to add a goatse check to his pre-game inspection repertoire. I'd rather be a little league umpire and take all the abuse that comes with it.

[@trevorchristian6669]

High level chess and little league baseball has more in common than many would like to admit

[@PassiveIZ]

There's a big problem for Hans here. The best players can feel if they play aginst a human or a machnie. They know how the patterns of play are and they know how good the opponents are. The fact that many top GM's suspect cheating from Hans makes a great case against him even tho they havnt found anything physically yet.

[@leeallen5132]

But if you watch a play-by-play review by Hikaru or other GM's they actually point out how Hans's moves weren't actually the best, or even amazing. He just played very solidly, while Magnus played bad.

[@cc3]

@@leeallen5132 hans' coach once suggested you'd only need to cheat 4 times a game to guarantee a win. Obviously we need evidence to come to a conclusion and for the time being he is innocent but just because he made some not so perfect moves doesn't mean he's innocent either.

[@szyren8793]

Thats the thing, they wont find anything physical

[@frankjohnson123]

Magnus had a lot of chances to equalize that game, but his play was off that day. Hans did nothing out of the ordinary in that specific game, but because of his past now around 50% of people think he's guilty with 0 evidence.

[@thatisamazing912]

@@frankjohnson123 are you a chess grandmaster?

[@Bazookaboy23]

If Hanz truly didn't cheat, how embarrassing would this be for Magnus and the chess community xD

[@snowhawk4049]

I doubt Hans would cheat against Magnus, if you pull something like this then in a less obvious way against a weaker player.

[@hydoken123]

It doesnt look like he cheated otb.

[@bighillraft]

@@snowhawk4049 why would you cheat against a weaker player that doesn't make any sense especially in a game like chess

[@ignis6144]

@@bighillraft bc it’s a free win with no suspicion

[@idiot4177]

@@ignis6144 theres no point though, you can just... win normally if they're weaker

[@hugoleroux4460]

If this scandal isn't called "bussygate" I will be mad.

[@nd_kui1772]

As a cheese eater myself, this is so heart breaking. Imma go smoke a doobie

[@WolfiiHD]

Same. Enjoy your smoke brother 💯

[@josephkehler5241]

Im drinking a cheese and orange milk shake myself

[@jamesmcivor340]

@@josephkehler5241 😐 w......tf

[@basedtortellini]

yo can i get a hit of that

[@josephkehler5241]

@@jamesmcivor340 new Bothwell mild give it a try

[@Dschonathan]

To me, the actual reason Magnus withdrew is probably that he talked to someone confidentially about wanting to play that line and that person snitched so the information ended up at Hans, or something equally unspectacular.

[@hoze1235]

Wifi anal beads

[@tqllymobile1989]

Agreed

[@mulliano420]

Me: standing up Charles: you’re gonna wanna take a seat **scandal is revealed** Me: gasping for air

[@omnigodguy]

@KINDLY HELP ME REACH TO 99K SUB Nobody gives a shit about your profile picture

[@beefmeatloaf]

You should have sat down smh

[@theoverlord4218]

At least people in wheelchairs watching this video are safe

[@beefmeatloaf]

@@theoverlord4218 galaxy brain strats

[@berke2336]

as someone who is on the spectrum, the chess community online makes me look neurotypical

[@michaelgove9349]

It's kinda reassuring, isn't it? There's a fantastic interview with Carlsen somewhere on KZbin which takes place in the London Eye. So basically, he is in this specially designed transparent capsule, raised high into the air to provide a panoramic view of the city - *and he doesn't look out once, not even a single glance.* All he does is talk about chess, the entire time. 🤣

[@Culiaoficial]

SpRectum

[@xander6153]

@@Culiaoficial “translated to straight by google” 💀

[@ABirdNamedBirdie]

HHEJAHDHJS

[@Emu-Otori-]

@@michaelgove9349he was there for an interview so he did the interview?

[@Dehpickle3]

I find this story so funny and it just seems like people don't want to believe that magnus could lose

[@Ebani]

That's not how chess works buddy, if any random person could do what he did then we wouldn't be here in the first place.

[@ramsey6507]

@@Ebani facts

[@Eiden_Simply]

@@Ebani but it really isn't a random player, as i understand it it's the player ranked 49th in the world

[@seyo8316]

@@Eiden_Simply you dont know chess dont speak on chess if you dont know how it works

[@hexrin5191]

Magnus loses relatively often, it's more the fact that he withdrew from a tournament which is extremely, extremely rare in chess combined with Hans' behavior. Moreover, Magnus is the single most respected individual in the sport. It would be like Federer, Nadal and Djokovic all accusing the same person of cheating. It's not proof but you damn sure have to look into it.

[@m4rt_]

12:45 Someone spends 4 hours making a device that could do that, and another person is making a open source project trying to demonstrate that it could work... but he just need someone willing to test it.

[@denisfresco3194]

9:37 when Charlie said he didn't believe Hans cheated Magnus Carlsen immediately busted through the door to attack Charlie

[@liamhill5559]

How did this comment fly under the radar

[@JoshTheWoz]

That's him trying to bust through the door 💀💀💀

[@michaelrud4351]

The most shocking thing isnt the victory, but instead the fact that he didn't finish before the match did

[@Lucas_Jeffrey]

Ohhhhh I'm com.... peting

[@spike5499]

@@Lucas_Jeffrey LMFAO

[@ELSanezu]

The most believable and reasonable explanation I've seen is that someone close to Magnus leaked the strategy he was gonna use against Hans. So Hans obviously just prepared for it like he admitted in the interview

[@carpedm9846]

Or like. Couldnt it just be that he studied various strategies before the tournemant, and went "ah yeah, magnus used a tactic I prepared for."

[@crocidayle]

@@carpedm9846 No, because Magnus has never played that line before with either black or white

[@rat8294]

@@carpedm9846 well Magnus only used the line once and usually they study the more used lines because the person is more likely to do those lines so the chances os hans knowing the line that was used once is very low

[@cecilasen]

Thing is, as a chess player you don't just have this secret "chess strategy I'll use tomorrow" diary or idea like chess is a perfect information game that's not really a thing. People have been talking about leaked opening preps but 1) If you wanted to leak his prep which is already weird if you had something against him or smth *you don't give it to Hans when he is playing black against magnus* 2) the more real point, you don't really have one opening in this secret folder, when you prepare for a game you look at multiple lines and sidelines on your chessbase which is basically like a large note system software for chess so if someone was to leak his prep that would be like me asking for some cheat sheet before a test and someone handing me a book. Han's interviews have been absolutely dogshit but there's no clear indication or any indication that he cheated. It's just magnus leaving the tournament which is an absolutely terrible thing to do in a round robin tournament made people think it had something to do with cheating and then chess streamers like hikaru just hopped on that bandwagon for content. Clearly magnus thinks he did cheat because he didn't come out to clear anything up for this entire time but there's simply no proof so that's just being a dick

[@aveniryasinsky5580]

@@carpedm9846 you clearly dont know how chess works

[@NightRogue77]

The way he so nonchalantly talks about all this really enhances the experience for me

[@Bhnbhn]

Niemann had nothing to lose against Magnus, It's pretty weird if he went to great lengths at the risk of his whole career and GM title to have a win against him. It's not even the first time someone beat MC. He either cheated and was really prepared to defend himself from allegations, or he did not cheat which makes being transparent easy for him. Overall, chess is freaking wild.

[@smo-king6504]

Yeah when I heard MC used this like only ever once I thought "yeah maybe he let down his guard a bit"

[@_MrMeme]

It’s not even the first time hans beat him, he beat him in a rapid (15 minutes) game a couple of weeks before. Although there is a large difference between rapid and classical.

[@karrawr9538]

he "risked his whole career" both times he was caught cheating online for smaller matches, but that still didn't stop them

[@leeallen5132]

Beating Magus puts his rating to Super Gm. It'd also make him first in a 100k tournament. I don't see any real evidence he cheated, but there's definitely reason to.

[@leeallen5132]

@@karrawr9538 I mean, he was 12, and 16. And they were online casual matches, not even rated. I don't think he risked his career doing that

[@snarf1851]

The most annoying thing about this whole situation is fairly prominent figures in the chess community on the Hans cheated bandwagon led me and I'm sure many other people to believe the moves he played were inconceivable and something only a chess bot would come up with. Which is simply not true. The line he played has been done before and is very much something you can study. It's really sad such popular people in chess are being so disingenuous.

[@paulplockinger431]

Hikaru throwing blame with no evidence

[@snarf1851]

@@paulplockinger431 Edit: i Stand corrected. I mixed up levy and Hikaru's analysis. Levy is pretty unbias in this situation. "Well not just Hikaru. Gothamchess had me convinced based on his review of the game and post interview that the line he played didn't exist and that all his moves went against chess theory. Later to find out that was all completely false."

[@Conduit_K]

@@paulplockinger431 honestly made me lose a little respect for him it’s sad and I genuinely believe it comes from a place of him thinking “if I couldn’t beat him there’s no way this guy did”. Even if Hans did cheat it’s sad to see all these guys immediately jump to conclusions, you’d expect more contemplation on issues like this from top lvl chess players but I guess not.

[@eragon78]

@@paulplockinger431 There is some evidence, its just not conclusive evidence. Evidence is just anything that supports a conclusion. Tons of evidence exists. Its just that when you want to make a conviction, you need conclusive evidence. Not all evidence is proof that something happened. You can even have evidence for stuff that isnt true without it being contradictory. But conclusive evidence is when the evidence is strong enough to actually prove the statement. But yea, evidence comes in many different levels. to say there is NO evidence is a bit naive, there just wasnt any conclusive evidence. But there definitely IS some evidence.

[@killerbug05]

@@snarf1851 "well not just hikaru. Hikaru's puppet is also pushing what hikaru is preaching" I wonder why I'm not surprised. No offense to gothamchess I like a lot of his videos, but he has possible bias in this situation.

[@mcsnuggie]

Hans halfway through the match said "my mind is telling me no... but my bodyyy is telling me yesss"

[@drekthedestroyer2115]

Could you imagine if you were innocent in this situation, and are being attacked to this level just because you beat someone? Crazy as hell

[@DarkFlameVee]

Maybe If he didn’t act all sus during the interview

[@elianjoensen2756]

now imagine if you’re guilty. that shit craaaaaazy

[@lolhavefun9201]

It's damn near impossible to beat Magnus , that's why

[@thwomp1542]

@@lolhavefun9201 Except he lost. So it's not impossible.

[@voicey5831]

@@thwomp1542 That's the whole point of him cheating tho?

[@ChessAssistOfficial]

When this news came out everyone jumped to conclusions immediately. Trust charlie to dive deep into the issue, vibrating his way with immense grace.

[@RemyWillard]

Why do I get the feeling the wording of your final sentence was 100% intentional?

[@indigo7898]

i'm pretty sure he just got excited about the anal plug theory, the rest of the video is just there to justify him talking about anal plugs

[@Rov-Nihil]

@@RemyWillard mans just vibin, leave em alone!

[@RemyWillard]

@@Rov-Nihil I see what you did there.

[@WildArtistsl]

Why not that many replies? This comment was vibrant

[@actionchess64]

I was at a chess competition once, and a guy literally had his phone sticking out of his pocket that had the position on the board 🤣The tournament director was called and the guy started crying lol Cheating in chess now is easier than ever, but it sucks when it comes down to competitions with prizes and etc. that it's something you potentially have to worry about. There've been times when I played people I thought were cheating, I keep my eyes on them. Anyway, great video!

[@totalhysteria]

Very easy to cheat actually. You can just go to the bathroom during the match and use stockfish to your benefit. Any player above 1600 ELO with decent memory can easily reconstruct a positon on their phone after leaving the board. And then getting a full evaluation from the engine. Giving them information about who stands better and key ideas in the position. It's so easy to get away with, without raising any suspicion, as long as you don't abuse this and check for every move. Best you can do is probably just to be aware and keep your eyes on suspects, as you said.

[@mice4486]

@@totalhysteria thanks 4 the advise 🚶

[@totalhysteria]

@@mice4486 🤣

[@aliakeel]

action chess ac assassin creed

[@koolerstream921]

@@totalhysteria this could potentially work.... for 1 or two moves only. How many times in a game do you expect to go to the bathroom before they look into it? Not many

[@yoshi.4337]

The beads theory remnds me a lot of the cosmic ray theory for that sm64 tick tock clock glitch. It was originally thrown around kinda as a joke but when journalists and publications heard of it, they took way more serious, and immediately made it the leading theory for the mystery.

[@justgemthings]

Magnus: *makes a move* Hans: 😩😩😫... I'll now make my move.😎

[@DizGaAlcam]

I think you overlooked the fact that, if he didn't cheat (which i also think he didn't), this was a massive accomplishment, as you said in the beginning of the video, one of the biggest upsets in chess history, to beat the best player in the world with the white pieces with that difference in ranking is very impressive.

[@theletters9623]

I love hearing about scandals I have absolutely no emotional stakes in this is wild

[@nickodevoe]

From now on, mandatory butthole inspections for all athletes and chess players. They should release this to the public for full "visibility"

[@notsocrates5979]

I think that the guy just played the singular best game of chess in his life, so damn good that he got real life botting allegations. What a fucking legend

[@jadgonunnn4024]

@Ll L nah hes just that good. Its happened to me before. Not chess tho

[@spagetter]

@@rudolphschmidt313 Did you click away after the first minute? Charlie stated that he doesn't think Niemann cheated.

[@Tunkert]

Didn't he say it was all prep. Meaning they are basically bot moves, just that he memorized them

[@idontcare9041]

I feel bad for him. Imagine you win against the best player in the world and no one believes you and now you stand there as a liar and cheater and your career might be damaged... that really sucks.

[@nobodynowhere8061]

I think that’s possible, but the evidence against him is compelling

[@benjaminsmythe8967]

To be fair, you wouldn't need to put stockfish "in" the beads. Given there was no stream delay, a third party could send vibrations corresponding to grind coordinates. X-axis first then y-axis, to signify what piece, and then repeat for where to move it.

[@vintage4198]

Bruh why do you want this kid not to win so bad. Y'all talking about military level tech

[@ciarangale4738]

@@vintage4198 i hate to say it but its really not. you can buy remote controlled sex toys online pretty cheaply, and as its a live streamed match, a viewer couldve been controlling the toy. is it likely? no. is it especially hard? also no

[@JJBInc-yd2ym]

@@vintage4198 yeah anyone can have an interactive vibrator in, and the accomplice could plug all magnus’s moves into a chess bot, and the computer would tell them the best move to respond with. Which they could then transmit to Hans. You could buy one of those toys at any sex shop for probably less than a Hundred dollars. Plus it would actually help Hans that magnus had the white pieces instead of hurt him. Since he could them just react to his moves and see what the chess bot would do in that situation. If Hans was the white pieces it would be way harder to predict what magnus will do than just copy it while playing black pieces.

[@vintage4198]

@@ciarangale4738 I can't tell if you're serious or not lmao 😂 y'all sucking up to mgnus so hard it should be illegal. An upcoming grandmaster beat the world's number one . it's not that hard to wrap your mind around. Magnus' era has come to an end like the number one before him

[@vintage4198]

@@JJBInc-yd2ym you did see him get searched right?

[@MrMan-mm9bn]

as a 400 rated chess player this is truly shocking

[@kevinmahaley4916]

Wow, I'm easily 423 noob

[@PolemicalKobra]

@@kevinmahaley4916 try getting to 458 before you start talking, buddy.

[@sawyer5072]

Fools, I'm up at 460. Nvm now I'm at 434 :(

[@thomashanson3476]

@@sawyer5072 I just hit 652

[@Gherkins]

@@sawyer5072 not even 20 minutes bruh 😭

[@Tomiply]

12:00 Also, the Champions Chess Tour: Julius Baer Generation Cup had Kenneth W. Regan on yesterday, a chess player and mathematician, and he has made the engine that detects cheating. He had analyzed all of Hans' games in the tour and the one he did with Magnus, and he found nothing that indicated cheating.

[@blzahz7633]

The RF scanner doesn't necessarily pick up on devices that only receive information, so scanning a person might not work with the wand. If it was a metal detector, then it's a matter of how sensitive it is.

[@rebelflamingo470]

I was going to say the same thing. When I was in the psychiatric hospital, patients often were able to sneak various objects on their person in through the RF scanner they use when we are admitted. This is also considering they check your bag and your clothes to make sure they are considered safe

[@AlvaroYamagami]

its impressive how wild the theories can go in the chess community

[@ranjanasharan4051]

The anal beads started as a joke on r/anarchychess And people took it seriously

[@norbertcsaszar4746]

i mean,you probably have to be borderline autistic to be a top chess player,so these kind of theories are not that wild in this enviroment

[@462n]

Love how Charlie does a better job at giving factual information about these things than actual news outlets.

[@basedtortellini]

yeah im honestly baffled that the news outlets pushed the anal bead theory into the mainstream so much like that lmaooooo

[@h.t.8812]

exactly lol

[@MahoganyCrafter]

the fact that this is so outlandish that they put it into an episode of Always Sunny was literally so fitting

[@AgitpropPsyop]

Quick correction: security was super tight on the second day after the accusations! They didn’t go all out with it prior to any accusation

[@pypeapple]

Ok

[@luhed]

@I Worst attempt at trolling for attention I’ve seen in a while honestly. No one is clicking on your name bud lol try harder.

[@aw98000]

Also, the guy didn't win another game after this one

[@mierardi88]

1:25 wow... I did not know I could be shocked or surprised any more. Thank you, Charlie

[@jakejonas7366]

Yo Charlie I love how you post random subjects on this channel and you never quite know when you pull this channel up what you’ll be talking about. I think that’s amazing. So many content creators who react or do commentary stay in their little bubble or niche but you keep your content fresh by uploading the neatest stuff to talk about. Props for that man, it’s like a new adventure every time I pop into your channel.

[@wlockuz4467]

You think chess is a random subject coming from GM Charlie? I mean did you even witness his pogchamps win?

[@jakejonas7366]

@@wlockuz4467 I’ve only been watching him for a few months. And he def talks about a variety of things instead of the same old same old. You gonna be ok? You sound pretty upset about a comment on KZbin.

[@KevinsDisobedience]

First time viewer. Just wanted to say you are a very confident, eloquent, witty raconteur. Very entertaining! Thanks for this recap…now add the two move withdrawal online and we’ve got ourselves a story.

[@elementallobsterx]

🧐

[@alviOST]

🤓🤓🤓

[@willcoffarchives]

It's hard to not doubt Niemann when he acts so fucking sus whenever he's on screen

[@shifty1927]

@Muscleman8562 you should try deez

[@GardenChess]

@Muscleman8562 Yeah I think we can tell

[@angelochile8103]

Yeah but remember no man's sky?

[@_will795]

@@angelochile8103 lmao

[@macaqueonthemenu3829]

@@shifty1927 what is deez

[@Rov-Nihil]

Problem is, there's two settings typically on those: ultra loud and non existent. If only we had footage we could analyze how often the guy was O facing and everyone looking around for a phone

[@newt2120]

yo...how do you know about the settings...?

[@GMHikaruClips]

1:50 "in a buttshell" - Missed opportunity.

[@sangregato7831]

10:19 When suddenly "It has to be this way" starts playing during a chess match...

[@Poppomatic64]

That whole “where you sit” cheat seems so Galaxy brained that it’s probably less of a pain in the ass to just become a grandmaster

[@starrycrystals8]

As a Chess lover, I can’t even believe stuff like this happens. It’s simply too embarrassing in every single way. I’m glad Charlie is talking about this though.

[@TK--hf6db]

You shouldn't be embarrassed if you aren't a competitive player.

[@JOOKST3R]

Levy rosman aka Gotham chess talked about it first. Unfortunately Charlie does not have the jurisdiction to milk this for content. Only chess players like Gotham. So me and my company are taking this video down asap

[@FlotationDevice101]

@@JOOKST3R k

[@TK--hf6db]

@@JOOKST3R Ok lol good luck on attacking reporters for reporting.

[@MrLoowiz]

@@JOOKST3R You don't even have pubes, how are we expected to believe you actually have a company?

[@toolbox0]

I can't believe Joel Haver actually got "insaneo-style" to be a real thing

[@DelayedLaunch]

I say Insaneo style at least once a week and it always gets a laugh.

[@Zionswasd]

its great

[@machine_elf4361]

lmfaooo

[@Sheen04]

It’s so funny that he referenced it’s always sunny in Philadelphia and then it’s always sunny in Philadelphia make an episode about this very situation🤣 Rob definitely watches Charlie

[@complimentbot7015]

The chess drama goes deep

[@Joe-y9t3w]

Fr

[@eb_stphar]

Facts

[@smigenforenstein]

For real

[@thethe4643]

Fr

[@largemonkey]

Not as deep as the beads

[@dustinrojas5392]

I saw a theory where someone claimed that someone in magnus’ close circle was a mole, magnus caught wind of this mole, so he prepped specifically that line that he’s only done one time, and if Niemann would’ve responded well he knew he found his mole. Just an interesting theory.

[@reka10]

That's some tinker, tailor, soldier, spy shit right there.

[@guccimain89]

Woah.

[@Interstice1994]

I didnt know chess had an Among us patch... XD

[@Felix-ii5st]

But doesnt explain why magnus left the tourny after finding the mole, right? He could have kicked the guy out and proceeded to play, knowing that now he had free reign

[@d007ization]

@@Felix-ii5st Possibly but it might not be a matter of one bad egg, maybe he needs to do proper housecleaning.

[@xzacct5330]

Best guess is Hans just got really lucky, but picking that line to study seems beyond lucky. I feel like he had to have had some kind of inside information to be able to know that one random line would be played that Magnus only played once

[@HairyJuan]

Yeah it's probably most-likely Magnus had his prep leaked

[@tylere.8436]

This is like a conspiracy theory

[@Filicitizen123]

@@HairyJuan Magnus prep was leaked? Who leaked it? And why would he helped Hans lmao. If i was the rat i would give it to Fabi or Nepo not Hans lmao.

[@Filicitizen123]

@@HairyJuan And, the prep didn't matter at all, in the game Magnus has a lot of opportunities to draw, but he missed all of it and lose.

[@alport1331]

@@Filicitizen123 Dunno. If it was indeed leaked it's probably lead to people who are betting with these chess matches, considering that the odds is definitely stacked against Hans.

[@jushthehermit]

Also, I think it's not uncommon for Magnus to start making blunders after several HOURS of chess. I don't know how many hours both players had played that day up to then, but chess tournaments are some of the most mentally taxing things for a human being. Magnus was probably burnt out, while Hans was on fire that day.

[@avilancer2516]

@@LowChow subhuman

[@myralyra2404]

@@LowChow I do!

[@Ceu.Noturno]

@@LowChow the whole chess community does

[@genericname2747]

@@LowChow bro, this is a video about chess

[@jimmysamson3511]

@@LowChow kid can't accept that Magnus lost

[@Nickelback8469]

Cheating with a bot seems unlikely, but I’ve heard theories of Magnus having an insider leaking his prep and that seems a lot more likely

[@alejandrorobles6865]

Thats not cheating anyways

[@baradureye2170]

Yeah but if true, magnus still got screwed royally😅

[@yourfriendmouse9967]

@@baradureye2170 was that a pun?

[@ethangarland8034]

@@alejandrorobles6865 yes, definitely cheating

[@rstkDev]

Why would Hans believe in that and accept?

[@SenatorSigma]

5:50 I had to set the whisky down and press left arrow

[@jamesflames6987]

The real scandal will break when it's revealed that ALL of the top chess players are using butt computers. Magnus Carlsen is only the champion because he has the most capacious rectum therefore allowing him to carry the most powerful computer hardware.

[@Finnjaymakes]

5:45 That weed must be hitting different for Rolling stone lol

[@yahmaniprice2587]

My man stuck some vibrating shit up his ass just to win a chess game. That dedication 🤌🏾

[@atomic-law7764]

I could have sworn Charlie said that wouldn't work sitting down lol. Ig we were all fooled lol

[@Lucas_Jeffrey]

I thought that was a chicken wing emoji for a moment

[@ninjireal]

what’s the big deal I do it all the time

[@marlarki5280]

Why is some random internet rumour just taken as a fact now? It's just stupid

[@kenos911]

Who said he wasn’t gonna do that regardless 😉