MASSIVE EMPIRE TOTAL WAR NEWS: NEVER-BEFORE-SEEN CUT CONTENT

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Andy's Take

Andy's Take

Күн бұрын

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@AndysTake
@AndysTake 2 жыл бұрын
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@kamilszadkowski8864
@kamilszadkowski8864 2 жыл бұрын
Damn, even without all these features I still regard Empire as one of the best historical Total Wars. CA really dropped the ball making Napoleon a standalone expansion. Implementing all the fixes and mechanics from Napoleon into Empire would make the game almost as brilliant as Medieval 2.
@TheRealSpeedWolf
@TheRealSpeedWolf 2 жыл бұрын
Damn straight.
@spiffygonzales5899
@spiffygonzales5899 2 жыл бұрын
I dunno man. I mean I like Napoleon, but some of the 'fixes' did nothing but gut features. Like rather than actually FIX some of the bugs with different ways of firing they just made it one basic way.
@AndysTake
@AndysTake 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, would’ve loved if they had spent more time on empire afterwards, supporting it with more content and mechanics like they now do for most of their titles.
@MrNeosantana
@MrNeosantana 2 жыл бұрын
Even with all those mechanics, which would definitely add a lot of life to the games, the braindead sieges still knock Empire down by a lot
@XmXStuka2
@XmXStuka2 2 жыл бұрын
Perhaps with more time they could have made sieges better? I mean that's possible too that sieges would be better too if they had more time
@austinhuston
@austinhuston 2 жыл бұрын
Hearing what empire could have been just makes me wish that creative assembly's next historical title will be the sequel empire deserves.
@AndysTake
@AndysTake 2 жыл бұрын
Me too, Austin!
@DragonballBlack
@DragonballBlack 2 жыл бұрын
We need to go back and mod these back into the game lol
@AndysTake
@AndysTake 2 жыл бұрын
Fr we have to
@alecguevara1835
@alecguevara1835 2 жыл бұрын
Please do so!
@amerikhan8507
@amerikhan8507 2 жыл бұрын
@@AndysTake if only we could augment these into Darthmod.
@LEEGOOVER9901
@LEEGOOVER9901 2 жыл бұрын
Darthmod, imperials....
@jakemaddocks435
@jakemaddocks435 10 ай бұрын
I'm no modder but it would be great to have a mechanic similar to "join the crusade" in mtw2 for empire called "join the coalition". The wars of spanish, austrian, and polish succession, the 7 years war, the american revolution, the french revolutionary wars, the great northern war, and of course the napolenoic wars plus many others were infamous for their coalitions. The borders of the world didnt change through conquest alone, but often after negotiated treaties at the end of these grand wars fought by coalitions looking to maintain the balance of europe, and in turn world balance. For me thats the biggest thing missing. (apart from an ai brain)
@tomzicare
@tomzicare 2 жыл бұрын
This is so depressing to watch and learn about. Empire was such a ground breaking game for me yet it felt it was always missing just a little bit more and here I am learning about cut content and it makes me so sad because it's one of my favorite if not my favorite TW game.
@AndysTake
@AndysTake 2 жыл бұрын
I feel the pain, man. One can only wonder what the game would have been like if they actually gave it 1 more year of dedicated main campaign development, or if they had supported the game as they do with modern games for anything more than just the lacking war path campaign and some units.
@joshuamoye5299
@joshuamoye5299 2 жыл бұрын
Is it even possible to do so? Cuz if it is I would very much like to see that.
@reshatavciogluovchuyev7671
@reshatavciogluovchuyev7671 2 жыл бұрын
They just need 1 god damned patch...
@TheMarkzon
@TheMarkzon 2 жыл бұрын
I've always preferred Empire to Napoleon, mostly I loved the bigger world map, having warfare on all fronts across the world is fun
@AndysTake
@AndysTake 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, it’s so cool!
@duncanharrell5009
@duncanharrell5009 2 жыл бұрын
Who doesn’t love a multiple continent spanning empire?
@sotch2271
@sotch2271 2 жыл бұрын
The only problem is that province are too big
@TheMarkzon
@TheMarkzon 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah France and spain needed reworking but I think the rest worked well
@themapleleafforever1526
@themapleleafforever1526 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Empire could’ve been a lot better than what we got. I’d like to see CA revisit this time period.
@AndysTake
@AndysTake 2 жыл бұрын
Me too, mate!
@johnsmith-yj2cn
@johnsmith-yj2cn 2 жыл бұрын
as long they make more realistic naval battle and stop making them more and more cheap
@antoniskoutsoukos9574
@antoniskoutsoukos9574 2 жыл бұрын
Except this time they should also include the 17th century, as I believe they originally intended
@James-sc5dn
@James-sc5dn 2 жыл бұрын
If they do, I just hope they don't over complicate it like newer Total war titles. Keep it simple and vast at the same time. Sounds contradicting I know but the newer Titles just don't look as good even with its better graphics personally.
@themapleleafforever1526
@themapleleafforever1526 2 жыл бұрын
@@James-sc5dn I actually welcome a little more depth to the campaign map as long as it’s engaging, easy to learn and not overly demanding. I felt that Empire was already simplified enough. I enjoy the new campaign features they’ve added in warhammer. The factions feel quite unique. Three kingdoms is weird because I can’t tell the factions apart, but they’ve improved diplomacy a lot.
@cynfaelalek-walker7003
@cynfaelalek-walker7003 2 жыл бұрын
Modder: *Sees this Also Modder: "Time to get to work!"
@Lego_51
@Lego_51 2 жыл бұрын
I want a Empire 2 or a remake. Best total war ever for me.
@AndysTake
@AndysTake 2 жыл бұрын
Would love an empire 2 or - worst case - a remaster of empire with everything they cut out. Would make a completely different game.
@Lego_51
@Lego_51 2 жыл бұрын
@@AndysTake agreed
@tonymccake3057
@tonymccake3057 2 жыл бұрын
Best concept for sure, but broken and as this video proves, rushed out to market with missing features and lack of testing. Just playing one siege battle is all you need to know about how stuffed up the coding is. It's a real shame, they just bit off more than they could chew when creating the game. A revisit with a version that works is long overdue, but is there a big enough market? I have no idea
@Dusty7460
@Dusty7460 2 жыл бұрын
don;t expect any historical title again. They love Warhammer series and and they are really adding new stuff in it every time.
@KroM234
@KroM234 2 жыл бұрын
Empire TW was the last game who had ambition in its thinking. Shogun 2 was the last well made TW but lacked the ambition. Those two games are the true milestone of the franchise, what comes next is a slow and painful decay.
@Alesayr
@Alesayr 2 жыл бұрын
Warhammer has plenty of ambition in it. Rome 2 was highly ambitious, probably too ambitious. I don't think your comment rings true
@KroM234
@KroM234 2 жыл бұрын
@@Alesayr No, Rome 2's main "innovation" was hybrid maps (naval & terrestrial). In terms of mechanics, Rome 2 made steps back on all the line. Limited number of armies, restricted diplomacy, AI dumb beyond imagination, unplayable naval warfare, victory points, dumbed down replenishment mechanics, and the first signs of marketting over content syndrom. looking at you Siege of Carthage. Rome 2 lacked on all aspects.
@tonymccake3057
@tonymccake3057 2 жыл бұрын
Certainly for historic based games you're right. I'm sure the fantasy stuff is fine if you like that kind of thing, but most people who got into the early TW offerings were looking for historical based games, it's those people who have given up on the TW series, me included. The question is are there enough for CA to even be interested in a remake that would actually need a major redesign? The tarted up Rome re-release was easy because the basic engine was sound. Medieval 2 could be done the same way, but Empire was horribly broken, so new game required
@KroM234
@KroM234 2 жыл бұрын
@@tonymccake3057 I'm not sure about WH titles either. I played them, it's some fun for some time, but limitations quickly pop out in regards of gameplay design. Once you hit those, you realize how rigged everything is in those modern TW games, physics, intuition, strategy, don't play any role in higher difficulties: only pure stats and abilities/magic counts. I suspect that most people playing WH:TW in a regular pattern are playing it's WARHAMMER, they're warhammer fans prior (in terms of interest) to be TW players. Some of these guys never played a TW before and only bought the games because the setting was branded Warhammer. And they won't follow up when CA is finished pumping out them juicy DLCs on their "new" platform re-sold 60 bucks... If they screw up their next historical title, they won't have neither Warhammer fans, neither historical interested people (most are already gone anyways).
@Daktarik-p8h
@Daktarik-p8h 2 жыл бұрын
With the introduction of institution of enslavement I wonder if more of Africa, South America, and Asia would have been more dynamic. It would also make sense to include nations from there to diversify the units and factions in game. It would also be interesting how they would handle something like Haiti, maybe it would be part of an event chain
@arkoscaptures3545
@arkoscaptures3545 2 жыл бұрын
So glad I could be a part of this video, it's great to see Empire getting the love it deserves!
@thesiberianproductions3748
@thesiberianproductions3748 2 жыл бұрын
I too mod empire and yeah, there is so much stuff in there... they even have a global map that is just covered by a shroud so that you have to use the teleportation zones
@AndysTake
@AndysTake 2 жыл бұрын
@@thesiberianproductions3748 that’s insane!
@thesiberianproductions3748
@thesiberianproductions3748 2 жыл бұрын
@@AndysTake yeah, it could have been quite the game
@Dusty7460
@Dusty7460 2 жыл бұрын
any chance to implement those missing features in a mod ?
@thesiberianproductions3748
@thesiberianproductions3748 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dusty7460 VDM has diseases and other cut content in it.
@trent3727
@trent3727 2 жыл бұрын
I hope Empire 2 is the next total war
@caballeroquimera2501
@caballeroquimera2501 2 жыл бұрын
Continue hoping then, lol (dies inside because Empire is one of his favorites).
@AndysTake
@AndysTake 2 жыл бұрын
Me too, Trent, me too…
@tobyffrench
@tobyffrench 2 жыл бұрын
@Saz 25 lol. They can just cut out or remove the slavery part. Like what they did on empire 1 and it would still be a good game.
@dambigfoot6844
@dambigfoot6844 2 жыл бұрын
There is a lot of hidden stuff in Empire I didn't know about until a couple months ago. I took out all of the Spanish territories in Europe and flipped back to the Americas and there were new nations like Mexico, Colombia, and rebel territories. I found out you can also change your government type and flag by letting a rebellion take over your capital city. From these finds you could say there would have been a feature where you could abdicate and continue playing as a Republic. We were robbed of so many features that can only be reconciled with the release of Empire 2 with these features and then some added to it.
@AndysTake
@AndysTake 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed :/ really hope they can redeem the Empire “series” to make it perhaps the best of all of Total War
@NakedOwl501
@NakedOwl501 2 жыл бұрын
Redeemed? No, there is no redemption for Empire besides Creative Assembly going absolutely bankrupt.
@surplusbus9269
@surplusbus9269 2 жыл бұрын
one can almost hear the moment the executives at Creative Assembly figured out they could still sell the game at the same price even if they cut major content to spend less and make more profit
@spiffygonzales5899
@spiffygonzales5899 2 жыл бұрын
I want them to do for Empire what they did for Rome. (Minus making it colorful). Improved graphics, big fixes, NOT gutting features from the game, new maps, letting us play as minor factions. Frankly I'd LOVE if they included slavery, the post battle screen, family tree, and pretty much everything else from this. Well, except the missions. This should be a sandbox. I don't want a bunch of missions I don't even wanna play getting in the way of that. Other than that this is absolutely amazing.
@AndysTake
@AndysTake 2 жыл бұрын
Yes it’s crazy what was left out. With “what they did for Rome”, so you mean the remaster or Rome 2?
@TheManofthecross
@TheManofthecross 2 жыл бұрын
maybe take it to the whole globe and world even have japan added in to the game as well.
@sphaera2520
@sphaera2520 2 жыл бұрын
Missions have never impeded the sandbox feel of tw games. In fact they served to make the game feel like there are people whose will exist beyond your omnipotent control of everything. A council of nobles who wants to see a rival nation knocked down a peg with port blockades or an outright war. The clergy/pope telling you to stop aggressing your Christian brethren. Etc. While sometimes they didn’t have the desired effect (felt like a chore or doing the action made no sense in the current context), feature removal is never the answer when you’ve missed the mark with a useful game mechanic. In any case you were never forced to do said missions, though many came with matching rewards or punishments that incentivized paying attention. Which again fits the theme of, there are other powers that be who want different things from you.
@spiffygonzales5899
@spiffygonzales5899 2 жыл бұрын
@@AndysTake Rome remaster
@spiffygonzales5899
@spiffygonzales5899 2 жыл бұрын
@@sphaera2520 I disagree. Telling the player to do something and giving them rewards to do it inclines them to do so. Imagine you're playing a sandbox game. And there's this huge quest battle just sitting there. You WANT to go south and sack Rome, but the game has a huge marker sitting there telling you about all the benefits of doing this random little quest battle against the British. When the game tells you how to play, it does in fact ruin the sandbox mode. I feel quests and missions should be limited to story.
@RebelForce8
@RebelForce8 2 жыл бұрын
Empire had the best scope and most potential. The trade route systems to india and americas were fan fucking tastic
@starkillertk2442
@starkillertk2442 2 жыл бұрын
Now only time will tell if empire 2 could be a redemption for our great loss
@AndysTake
@AndysTake 2 жыл бұрын
I so so hope so. Been wanting THIS Empire since the original came out, but an empire 2 could indeed bring all this and more if we’re lucky.
@caballeroquimera2501
@caballeroquimera2501 2 жыл бұрын
Well, only 14 days until Warhammer 3's release, I hope that they pick up Empire after that!
@plsjato
@plsjato 2 жыл бұрын
Empire Remastered with all this features would be amazing.
@AndysTake
@AndysTake 2 жыл бұрын
Preach!
@JRWatchman85
@JRWatchman85 2 жыл бұрын
People shit all over Empire but it was my favorite in terms of the map size and global feel of it. I want Empire 2 with an even bigger Europe and excluded nations like China and Japan.
@AndysTake
@AndysTake 2 жыл бұрын
Me too, my friend, me too!
@caballeroquimera2501
@caballeroquimera2501 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, my man, nice job getting that sponsor, hope it'll make you get more sucess. Thank you for covering such an intriguing topic, but a sad one, Empire, even modded, is a massive missed chance.
@AndysTake
@AndysTake 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, Alejandro, that means a lot!! It’s my first sponsor so it’s a big step for me, and I’m so grateful for the support you continue to express! ❤️ and thank you for watching, I’ve had this information for a few days and was really itching to share it with you! Which parts were the most interesting to you?
@caballeroquimera2501
@caballeroquimera2501 2 жыл бұрын
@@AndysTake I loved the part about diseases and royal families, perhaps even opening to personal unions!? That'd be great, I get so happy thinking about this alternative version of Empire with formables, great administrative mechanics, better victory conditions, so great. I really like your videos, style and voice, so I'll keep supporting you!
@CrèmeTropBrûlée
@CrèmeTropBrûlée 2 жыл бұрын
I don't care what purists say, Empire Total War is my childhood and will always have a special place in my little heart
@AndysTake
@AndysTake 2 жыл бұрын
I think it has a places in many of ours hearts, we just wish it took up a bit more of that space ;)
@TTV5
@TTV5 2 жыл бұрын
Wow nice find! Empire really pushed it on graphics for a strategy game at the time, so no wonder they had to cut in other areas. Also congrats on getting a good sponsor! Getting VPN actually is really neat. Every website you visit can see your IP address and rough location, and lots of email tracks your location when you open them. VPN stops that. It's always good to take some steps to protect your privacy.
@AndysTake
@AndysTake 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, man, appreciate it! :D and you’re right, they must’ve been a looot of time revamping the engine and visuals.
@dSlice94
@dSlice94 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed with the graphics at the time. Even if it was finished and all the bugs filled the game would be way better. They wouldn't even have to do much to change the game except add more diplomacy. Just showing the fact there was more potential to this game just irks me. Online models would have finished it if CA didn't want to. That being said, an example of what not to do would be civilization from 4 to 5.
@MedjayofFaiyum
@MedjayofFaiyum 2 жыл бұрын
Now we need modders to add this in Please do something like this for Rome 2! There's still so much content we DON'T KNOW ABOUT!
@tonymccake3057
@tonymccake3057 2 жыл бұрын
Europe in Conflict mod added the disease and hospital feature back in but that was ten years ago and I'm not sure how well it worked. The problem with these features is there are likely chunks of code missing or never compiled to enable and integrate them. A completely new Empire 2 would be more practicable. The graphics and everything else about it are clunky compared to newer games anyway.
@MedjayofFaiyum
@MedjayofFaiyum 2 жыл бұрын
@@tonymccake3057 That is very much true, and we can hope in Empire II that stuff is restored tbh And very true and a big reason why an Empire II is needed
@tobiasschobitz7220
@tobiasschobitz7220 2 жыл бұрын
When Empire came out it was pretty difficult to run on most systems. They probably cut the extra content to make the game more accessible.
@dominicc3521
@dominicc3521 2 жыл бұрын
ETW2 is a must. Warhammer 1,2 and 3. How much fantasy do we need?
@Praetore_
@Praetore_ 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like Empire could do with a redo by CA. Remastering the graphics and utilising the new found time to develop the systems that weren't included.
@AndysTake
@AndysTake 2 жыл бұрын
Would love that, would love it almost as much as an Empire 2.
@rickdiesel2k
@rickdiesel2k 2 жыл бұрын
just do Empire 2 with the newer engines and do it right
@Kr0noZ
@Kr0noZ 2 жыл бұрын
That's really interesting findings. While I didn't mind the whole "no family tree" thing, which always felt like annoying tedium to me (don't even get me started on Rome 2 with it's dumb politics and family sub-game -.- ), I would have liked more factions and a more detailed map and more ways to interact with other nations. I still regard Empire as one of the best Total War games simply because of what it tried to do and absolutely hope for a follow-up
@ianlindberg9170
@ianlindberg9170 2 жыл бұрын
What mod are you showing in the video?
@cdceltic9391
@cdceltic9391 2 жыл бұрын
what mod are you playing in the background footage
@justinlabrosse8506
@justinlabrosse8506 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah the one thing I really missed about total war games was the Family tree mechanic even the new titles dont have it anymore witch I think is a huge mistake.
@RocketHarry865
@RocketHarry865 2 жыл бұрын
I wished that they had mechanics for elective monarchies also I wish there were mechanics where the Ottomans instead of suffering from revolutions they would suffer from Janissary revolts
@TheRealSpeedWolf
@TheRealSpeedWolf 2 жыл бұрын
After playing Romes and Medieval 2 back in the day, and seeing Empires, it was quite a love-hate relationship because there were so many things that could have been great about it. and what you show in this video proves that fact. Napoleon only fixed it to be more playable, but somehow it feels even more limited than Empires. The fact that you show this is very sad because you will never get anything like it again considering the direction that they have been going through with the new series, as well as the gaming industry as a whole with all the DLC and monetization. which was pretty bad in Shogun 2. One of the reasons why I have hesitated playing for so many years is that I don't feel if you don't buy all the DLC. I don't have the full game, and apparently my justification was founded.
@AndysTake
@AndysTake 2 жыл бұрын
I feel as disappointed as you with Empire, and one can say various things about the policies of later games (personally I think campaign expansions are mostly great). But I think this at least shows that there’s more passion there than we thought. And hopefully, hopefully, we’ll get a much better Empire 2 soon.
@NotFinnish
@NotFinnish 2 жыл бұрын
theres an entire czech voice acting that wasn't used along with a funny "we are an army, not a navy... sire" line to go with the navy one that is in the game.
@AndysTake
@AndysTake 2 жыл бұрын
Hmm I’ve heard that last one before, but I think it’s from medieval 2!
@NotFinnish
@NotFinnish 2 жыл бұрын
they made it in every language too.
@aleksapetrovic6519
@aleksapetrovic6519 2 жыл бұрын
Despite its very obvious flaws, for me Empire is the best game of all Total Wars I played. I started with Shogun 2 and thought it was alright, but it was Empire that got me into the series and the one I often come back too. This video just proved what I already had suspicions of. I always had a feeling that family intreagues and sucessions were cut content. They always had that somewhat empty feeling almost like you have a missing puzzle in the middle of picture. As for formable factions, we already have that. I remember Quebec, America, Mexico, Greece (who speak Turkish) and Hungary emerging even without mods, so that wasn't cut content. However most of the central Asia was left out which sucks since this was the age of freaking Nader Shah. However, when I think that it took Total War Attila to make real family tree, with proper governors (which fod Attila they were sopouse to be feudal lords, not governors) and proper politics, it sure wasn't for the laziness or lack of will.
@AndysTake
@AndysTake 2 жыл бұрын
You’re right about the feeling of empire missing that piece of the puzzle. Would love to see it remade or a sequel.
@aleksapetrovic6519
@aleksapetrovic6519 2 жыл бұрын
@@AndysTake or maybe Rennesaince with early colonialism. Early Modern Era and Helenic/Helleinstic Age are my favorite tine periods. We did have Helenic/Hellenistic Age in Rome 2, which left me somewhat disspaointed because it was focused too much on Rome which you can rightfully ask what was I expecting in a game called Rome 2. Still, I appriciate the effort very much as they did their homework (except foe Thracians and Dacians, I am still pissed off). As for Early Modern Era, we only had early Rennesaince in Medieval 2 which is a mixed bag considering ghe time it takes and Empire Total War which is my favorite Total War, but not without its downside. Pike and Shot Total War would add perfect link between Medieval 2 and Empire, just like Attila is a perfect link between Rome 2 and Medieval 2.
@SturmwolfDK
@SturmwolfDK 2 жыл бұрын
I want Empire Total War II soooo bad! I hope CA goes back to historic titles.
@AndysTake
@AndysTake 2 жыл бұрын
Me too! :(
@BogallusMaximus
@BogallusMaximus 2 жыл бұрын
We need Empire II and not more fantasy games for now.
@alcoolamus4208
@alcoolamus4208 2 жыл бұрын
Incredible, what a waste! Thanks for this video, now I want Empire 2 even more
@TheImpracticalBrit
@TheImpracticalBrit 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah same here empire 2 then medieval 3
@spartanspaghetti2983
@spartanspaghetti2983 2 жыл бұрын
Same here brother
@AndysTake
@AndysTake 2 жыл бұрын
Same here brother
@nsawatchlistbait289
@nsawatchlistbait289 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine reverse engineering Total War games and making them the best version of what they can be
@jaywerner8415
@jaywerner8415 2 жыл бұрын
That is certainly quite the treasure trove. The family and government stuff in particular is surprising given how bare bones the Government and Character system is. Oh well maybe for the next game.
@AndysTake
@AndysTake 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed :(
@johnnynielensted
@johnnynielensted 2 жыл бұрын
Oh I’m hoping for an total war Empire 2 so bad….
@AndysTake
@AndysTake 2 жыл бұрын
Me too, Johnny :’(
@MrPhilipp0207
@MrPhilipp0207 2 жыл бұрын
What's the background music at 0:45?
@LeanderMr
@LeanderMr 2 жыл бұрын
way too few countries and cities/regions was my biggest issue with empire. It allways made me sad, that a medium sized country such as Denmark, only had 1 region, which contained a small citiy with few build options. The campaign would be so much more interesting if u had to take 3-4 cities in order to capture a medium sized country, instead of just taking 1 city. The same issue is in napoleon total war, way too few cities.
@AndysTake
@AndysTake 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair, Denmark is a tiny country ;) the fact that NORWAY AND SWEDEN only has one city is absolutely ridiculous however. But I do agree, Denmark should’ve had at least two cities, while I believe Norway and Sweden should have at least 3-4 with the current map. It’s insane how many countries only got 1 city, especially France and Spain (?) which is just wild.
@LeanderMr
@LeanderMr 2 жыл бұрын
@@AndysTake true xD I remember in napoleon tw MP, when I started as england vs france.. I could send my army to nromany and sack paris and another city first turn making the france player rq instantly since he just lost like 50% of his cities in 1 turn.
@AndysTake
@AndysTake 2 жыл бұрын
@@LeanderMr Hahaha yes it’s so broken if you do that, you can completely wreck another country if you’re just lucky/determined to take their ONE city early
@koolaidman2702
@koolaidman2702 2 жыл бұрын
@@AndysTake Also mainland France, and Spain being one regions is ridiculous. Granted they have other settlements its still crazy
@MedjayofFaiyum
@MedjayofFaiyum 2 жыл бұрын
This makes me think that Rome 2 is a fantastic game at its core with Empire, but a lot of cut content made it impossible for both games to get where they want to be
@AndysTake
@AndysTake 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly :/ wish all of this could’ve been in the game. Would’ve been a completely different experience.
@MedjayofFaiyum
@MedjayofFaiyum 2 жыл бұрын
@@AndysTake 100% In an alternate timeline, Rome II and Empire were successful!
@scotvince7847
@scotvince7847 2 жыл бұрын
What this music we can hear at 3:00 ?
@YaboitheCadian
@YaboitheCadian 2 жыл бұрын
I have 0 faith that CA can ever make a good game ever again. All they haveto do is take everything about Empire and polish it for Empire 2, but they wont. they'll do something stupid remake the whole thing and make it arcadey and worse. They are not the same company, its time to let Total War die and a new one rise up
@AttiliusRex
@AttiliusRex 2 жыл бұрын
Empire 2 hype!
@ares106
@ares106 2 жыл бұрын
I was messing around with a little modding for WH2 and I was surprised to find a bunch of cut content, especially around naval warfare. I think this is quite common for all total war games.
@AndysTake
@AndysTake 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting, wonder how naval warfare would play out in WH.
@Master_Smurf
@Master_Smurf 2 жыл бұрын
short.....this was the best game of my child hood, i even started re playing it last year...
@nocollab9676
@nocollab9676 2 жыл бұрын
even with all the mistakes and cut content, i still love empire
@RemusKingOfRome
@RemusKingOfRome 2 жыл бұрын
GREAT Find !! Empire was an excellent game. I wanted proper English elections - Wigs V Tories, where if Wigs won the election, funding for the British war machine came to screeching halt ! We got 90% of this but they stumbled on the final step.
@AndysTake
@AndysTake 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, and thanks for watching! I wish empire had been everything they intended it to be :(
@jorgemartin5316
@jorgemartin5316 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your insight. Empire is my favourite Total War, that lead me to read about 18th century. Historical battles could have been far better as this period had wars in Europe, Asia and America. In this aspect Seven Years War by Oliver Keppelmüller is more interesting. One of the most intriguing quotations I've ever read from Fontenoy 1745 by Lord Charles Hay: "We are the English Guards, and we hope you will stand till we come up to you, and not swim the Scheldt as you did the Main at Dettingen!". Also in naval aspect I would say Ultimate Admiral Age of Sail surpassed Empire, I am playing the British Campaign and the mechanics and details are better. Empire 2 would be great news for sure, especially if they stick in 18th century, a great military period because of the evolution of weapons, ships, tactics, marching, uniforms.
@AndysTake
@AndysTake 2 жыл бұрын
Thank YOU for the comment and thoughts! Would love an empire sequel with everything they cut and more.
@caballeroquimera2501
@caballeroquimera2501 2 жыл бұрын
Hope the modders can at least put this to good use...
@swefress
@swefress 2 жыл бұрын
What mods you use for those graphics?
@IceniTotalWar
@IceniTotalWar 2 жыл бұрын
Don't worry CA will unlock all this cut content in the Remaster when you purchase that. What were the other cut Factions other than Switzerland/Tuscany ? OK the so called time restraints that supposedly caused us the paying fans to miss out on this were self imposed by CA not by the fans, we weren't the ones demanding the game be released ASAP. The fans don't even know what the next game will be until the next CA release trailer and only CA set and know their schedule, they had full control on delaying ETW so they could implement all this content.
@AndysTake
@AndysTake 2 жыл бұрын
You’re almost correct, it’s not CA but SEGA who’s in charge here, they’re the publisher deciding times and schedules and have the higher ups.
@ludvigskalberg4351
@ludvigskalberg4351 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact! Some of these (mainly the natural disasters and diseases) have been implemented by a modder! Bran mac born mod or something like that. Believe it's a bit unstable but honestly can't remember. Certainly worth noting!
@AndysTake
@AndysTake 2 жыл бұрын
Good tip! :)
@NativeLanguage02
@NativeLanguage02 2 жыл бұрын
Lol. Who would have thought that there were contents cut from Empire? But the game content is so expansive that only a few people would realize this which is actually related on how CA tests their new mechanics for the next game that they would release. And if you spent a little time dabling and modding Empire, you would come to some idea that some features of Napoleon and Shogun can be used to improve it. Some modders made a supply system, others a plague and a few used the graphical enhancement from Napoleon. You can actually port some of the graphics used in Shogun into Empire like the roads, trains and boats, terrain colors or the burning settlement animation in the map.
@AndysTake
@AndysTake 2 жыл бұрын
Wish they could all be combined into the same mod, or just you know.. Empire 2…
@NativeLanguage02
@NativeLanguage02 2 жыл бұрын
@@AndysTake yeah, we all love to see those be implemented on the game. But, we all know what happens if we put so much mechanics and content on the game. PS. CA should follow what Relic did with COH3, they hired a community member after recieving feedbacks from their early access.
@SyndicalistDuck
@SyndicalistDuck 2 жыл бұрын
What are the graphics mod he's using?
@silversoul2785
@silversoul2785 2 жыл бұрын
How can we till them to make empire 2? I tried to send a massage but no response
@AndysTake
@AndysTake 2 жыл бұрын
I think they already know a lot of people want an Empire 2, but in the end it’s up to them, and they only have 2-3 projects in development at the same time, which for a very long time now has been 3K, the Warhammer series, and Troy. So it’s exciting to see what might be next!
@cariopuppetmaster
@cariopuppetmaster 2 жыл бұрын
were are the links to the lost files?
@karlhastings8342
@karlhastings8342 2 жыл бұрын
I might have to go back and play a Empire campaign again.
@sadgamer8487
@sadgamer8487 2 жыл бұрын
In the end all elements present in Shogun 2. For me the only extremely important elements were the details of units. That, unfortunately, CA cutted after Medieval 2.
@vetiwearerdaimyo1592
@vetiwearerdaimyo1592 2 жыл бұрын
I was hoping this video will be about possibility of Empire 2
@gustafprates2170
@gustafprates2170 2 жыл бұрын
This video hurt to watch, so much lost potential. Empire is in my top 5 games of all time, after playing 200 hours of vanilla I was introduced to Darth mod. It blew my mind. But imagine what the game could have become with additional mods and fewer cuts.
@AndysTake
@AndysTake 2 жыл бұрын
I know, Gustaf, I feel the same way :(
@socratitties8233
@socratitties8233 2 жыл бұрын
amazing take as always
@AndysTake
@AndysTake 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing comment as always ;)
@ArielAlvFal
@ArielAlvFal 2 жыл бұрын
I may have an unorthodox wishing for a "Empire 2" here... I loved the vast amount of different faction mechanics that the Warhammer titles brought to the game. It would be fun to have something similar, even if not that radically different from each faction in a new game. In the 18th century nations were so different we could do that, from native American to wild tribes in Brazil to traditional warriors of Japan and China. Slavery and naval power of Portuguese and Spanish and later British. Absolutism and Revolution fervour from France... So much potential uniting goog qualities of newer games mechanichs with historical epicness.
@fullcody1
@fullcody1 2 жыл бұрын
the game was supposed to be more like the previous games than we believed. and then they cut the content. thats the total war trajectory in a nut shell
@Ray-lf1eo
@Ray-lf1eo 2 жыл бұрын
The art looks really really good, how can you cut that out
@AndysTake
@AndysTake 2 жыл бұрын
I know, it looks amazing!
@brandonzzz9924
@brandonzzz9924 2 жыл бұрын
If I win the lottery, I'm funding Empire 2
@tonymccake3057
@tonymccake3057 2 жыл бұрын
This only proves that the game was rushed out, with planned features being chopped out and inadequate testing, so it was also a bag of rusty broken bolts. Europe in Conflict mod actually reactivated the hospital and disease features but from the TWC forum seems to have had mixed results and not updated in 10 years. Empire; a great concept but disappointing reality.
@AndysTake
@AndysTake 2 жыл бұрын
That last sentence says it all!
@ttouran
@ttouran Жыл бұрын
what is the best mod for Empire total war right now?
@theyellowjesters
@theyellowjesters Жыл бұрын
I'm gonna be honest, if CA updated the graphics/sounds, the campaign map, and added in these features and called it empire 2, I would be happy. I would be extremely happy if they used 2 full years to work out bugs, kinks, and improve the ai significantly.
@garrofwar148
@garrofwar148 2 жыл бұрын
Guess we should get a reboot of this with all this added flavour.
@AndysTake
@AndysTake 2 жыл бұрын
Guess we must :/
@teoman5936
@teoman5936 2 жыл бұрын
Empire TW with plague and population mechanics would have been amazing. Maybe they are keeping them for Empire 2?
@AndysTake
@AndysTake 2 жыл бұрын
Hopefully we’ll see it one day!
@ConqCapson
@ConqCapson 2 жыл бұрын
There are thousands cut content in ETW and it is not moddable. Shame CA didnt integrate ETW into NTW which is the game supposed to be as a content-wise
@montes3d
@montes3d 2 жыл бұрын
The question here is.... There is any mod that implements any features like that? There is one mod you can recommend ? (I always played it vanilla)
@AndysTake
@AndysTake 2 жыл бұрын
No honestly, different mods implement different things but no mod does it all, and nowhere near to this extent, sadly :/
@montes3d
@montes3d 2 жыл бұрын
@@AndysTake :( thanks for your answer
@Gypsy5050
@Gypsy5050 2 жыл бұрын
I wish they would make another big historical Total War game, like Empire 2. In recent years, CA pumped out 3 Warhammer games...
@manuvirajkhare
@manuvirajkhare 2 жыл бұрын
Another reason for us to have Empire 2!
@AndysTake
@AndysTake 2 жыл бұрын
Hear hear!
@alejandrojosespinamendez5668
@alejandrojosespinamendez5668 Жыл бұрын
PLEASE Andy, could you help me by trying to convince some modders to try on finding the tools to mod the campaign map? Ive tried in official forums but people where harsh on me, I would really love to be able to make new maps for Empire : (
@RexDraco999
@RexDraco999 2 жыл бұрын
Don't do this to me We were on the verge Greatness, we were this close...
@AndysTake
@AndysTake 2 жыл бұрын
Imma cry :’(
@robzonefire
@robzonefire Жыл бұрын
I found on that localisation file that there is a country called "Empire of China" faction. Such a missed opportunity
@dickinwurfer
@dickinwurfer 10 ай бұрын
Sad
@wither9730
@wither9730 2 жыл бұрын
This game needs a remaster with those content!
@AndysTake
@AndysTake 2 жыл бұрын
I couldn’t agree more!
@Faceonthewall
@Faceonthewall 2 жыл бұрын
I hope and pray that the next historical TW is Empires 2
@AndysTake
@AndysTake 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly same
@lordhermis8718
@lordhermis8718 2 жыл бұрын
Hvor er den neste videoen med Norge Empire campaign du la ut for 9 måneder siden? Jeg ville se slaget mot svenskene hahaha
@AndysTake
@AndysTake 2 жыл бұрын
HAHA JEG OG! Men jeg mistet filen :’( må se til å begynne den om igjen ass, for det var spennende saker!
@lordhermis8718
@lordhermis8718 2 жыл бұрын
@@AndysTake om du gjør det kan du dele mod listen din? Ser fram til serien!
@athomicritics
@athomicritics 2 жыл бұрын
its not so much the features that had me eh about it but really some of the design choices ONE PROVINCE FRANCE im still confused to this day how this was supposed to be a good idea
@AndysTake
@AndysTake 2 жыл бұрын
Me too :’(
@Ph03nix01
@Ph03nix01 2 жыл бұрын
Well - hopefully they are doing just now right, what they have kept from us the last time.
@revere0311
@revere0311 2 жыл бұрын
Well this is sad. Wish I never knew this 😔
@AndysTake
@AndysTake 2 жыл бұрын
I’m sorry, Revere :( at least we know what’s possible now, or that CA knows what we want!
@delphidelion
@delphidelion 2 жыл бұрын
All this tells me is that we are going to get a restoration mod at some point.
@timsullivan3167
@timsullivan3167 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! The family tree mechanic was a huge miss. I would have liked a fleshed out religion system as well, with national conversions based on the family member religions and government policies (Catholic vs Protestant intra national struggles)
@AndysTake
@AndysTake 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Tim! Would love more systems like that as well!
@COATEStoCOATES
@COATEStoCOATES 2 жыл бұрын
With Warhammer 3 having 8 player coop-campaign. I am looking forward to the next historical title be it Empire2 or Medieval 3.
@AndysTake
@AndysTake 2 жыл бұрын
Would love an 8 player campaign in historical games from now on!
@lDocteurLulu
@lDocteurLulu 2 жыл бұрын
We need an Empire II
@AndysTake
@AndysTake 2 жыл бұрын
TRUTH
@ledfarmer100
@ledfarmer100 2 жыл бұрын
Empire is pretty amazing, 2nd fav total war behind shogun 2
@AndysTake
@AndysTake 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you love it :)
@alcoolamus4208
@alcoolamus4208 3 ай бұрын
Back here today to say I'm convinced the mobile version will include at least some of this cut content. Hopefully I'm not proven wrong in the coming weeks xD
@jorismedeisis3793
@jorismedeisis3793 2 жыл бұрын
You made me cry ;(
@joshuamoye5299
@joshuamoye5299 2 жыл бұрын
What would it take to get a modder to actually make this content for the game?
@fifa4lifeunknow795
@fifa4lifeunknow795 2 жыл бұрын
Me cries in thrones of britannia 😢😢
@pieternoordenbos
@pieternoordenbos 2 жыл бұрын
All these items will be in the next Empire TW. No worries ppl.
@AndysTake
@AndysTake 2 жыл бұрын
That’s the confidence we need haha, I sincerely hope you’re right!
@starsaber2002
@starsaber2002 2 жыл бұрын
I wish atleast they could make it where u can choose the heir to your throne
@MrTeaLover
@MrTeaLover Жыл бұрын
that was supposed to be a feature
@aprilchan1323
@aprilchan1323 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe we'll get it in Total War : Empire II
@AndysTake
@AndysTake 2 жыл бұрын
We can only hope!
@navinkumarpk86
@navinkumarpk86 2 жыл бұрын
They should have expanded the map to China as well
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