Master Duel World Champion Plays Furniture Labrynth

[@Kamar5489]

The Sweet Spot Is Semi-Limit Everything.

[@AljoschaW1993]

Like in Master Duel 😅

[@LS-qs9ju]

Transaction Rollback is not really good on Labrynth MD (compared to OCG/TCG) because of the semi limits. They really want to push Labrynth into playing floodgates by hitting the furnitures.

[@metalmariomega]

2 and 2 is more than enough, especially with options like Paleozoic Marella and Ariane to get key traps from deck or hand to GY respectively. Also you can and should stop playing non-engine Hand Traps and play Rollback at 2 if you want to set up your plays reliably.

[@opssoldier3316]

@@metalmariomega??? If you don’t play non engine hand traps they’re gonna run over you going first

[@pain8061]

That's why I play 1 foolish burial goods and 2 rollbacks. You can put rollback to three for more "consistency" but saying rollback is "not really good" on lab shows that you barely even play lab

[@lchidan2782]

Im playing 1 of each furnitures plus burial goods and im doing fine

[@lchidan2782]

​@opssoldier3316 thats why evenly match exists and also in my case at least im running torrential tribute and solemn strike and I've won duels by just using those two even going 2nd its all about knowing when to use your trap cards lab is not just monkey flipping floodgates you know

[@CalculatedRisk05]

Banning the Snake-Eye field spell makes it so the deck can't play through Nibiru at all, so that would probably be the best way to hit the deck without making it impossible to play. Ash + Diabellstar uses the field spell on the 4th summon to put Flamberge in the back row and insulate against nib before Jet synchron is summoned. Diabellstar or Snake-Ash rely on the field spell in order to summon Flamberge out if they're hit with Nib. Banning the field spell ends up making it so players don't need Nib + hand trap, which makes the deck a lot less dominant.

[@thatpianoguy5909]

It won't be enough though Nibiru alone can't stop a t0 you need to hit something else one starter card Temple + another ban is good, oak its an extender that can also get flamberge, similar to kitkallos it can extend like crazy

[@jovan9989]

I don't think this deck with that amount of gas can be stopped by nib.

[@xer314]

when runick labrynth build?

[@tomhiggart]

Apolousa, baron and savage bans genuinely makes the game healthier

[@themasterblaze7563]

I've been saying exactly this for a long time.

[@DreamerGalaxius]

@@themasterblaze7563 same here

[@cjramos1158]

Konami never learned from Goyo Guardian

[@NoNameOrLife]

if they wont even bad floodgates do you think they will ban omnis

[@mrsquadbot]

Love me some diverse endboards, say no to archetypism

[@kalipo9]

If I was you I'd cut all the generic handtraps and imperms for more solid traps like dogmatika punishent, torrential tribute, trap trick. Cut rollback to 2 and run foolish burial goods as a pseudo 3rd copy. Lord of the heavenly prison for protection/extra search power/big body that's easy to summon. Karma Cannon should be a 3 of as well, it's too cracked in this format. You only really need 1 of each furniture too and I'd cut Ariane or just run 1 until Arius gets released. Solemn Strike for Ash protection wouldn't hurt either.

[@Jynx-qd2gu]

so banlist is next week thx Josh ;)

[@rehberg.]

Everyone saying that Konami should murder the snake-eye deck and fuck the people that spent money on the cards are the last people Konami are going to listen to. Depending on the game, 60-90% of the gaming industry’s revenue comes from the big fish. They’re not making money from selling 2 boxes per year to half a million players, they make money from the 2000 players that need to have the shiniest cards and open or contribute to opening hundreds or thousands of boxes each year. It’s the same reason MtG has a reserve list or casinos let people act like complete assholes on their gaming floor. They don’t want to piss off the whales. That being said, if I had to guess, Konami is closer to 60% than some of the other games which is why they tend to reprint and ban high value cards more so than other games. They’re also really smart about not messing with a product until it’s out of sales rotation and therefore they’ve already gotten their money’s worth. *The percentages I mentioned above are not official figures from a given source, they are estimates made from my experience as a vendor in card games and as a former casino employee. At the casino I worked at, we were literally told in training that we pretty much let certain tiered members do whatever they want (excluding sexual harassment thank god) bc despite representing only about 10% of the players, they make up for about 90% of the revenue in a year (those are real statistics).*

[@Blackelite89]

If a game is balanced around the credit card, it will loose its integrity.

[@floor5389]

@@Blackelite89 yugioh has integrity..?

[@un4given830]

terrortop has GOTTA come back to 3

[@erbinha_1234]

That card having any sort of hits is wild

[@AljoschaW1993]

Such a fun card, love to make Adventure Engine Access with him in Phantom Knights in Master Duel And is fair in today's game, MD has Innovker and he does nothing

[@johntheamazing9337]

Mr schmidt: I dont care where shifter goes as long as its not 3 konami: so for shifter we are introducing a special case where this card specifically can be played at 4 copies

[@pieromorantearenaza4801]

limit 1 flamberge, populus and wanted

[@xer314]

i think banning the snake eye field spell would make it more balanced in master duel. don't know about the tcg tho

[@zakariaelhimer1325]

Yea probably, maybe ash to 1 or 2

[@greenhillmario]

Wanted is not a problem card until diabellstar gets another going first normal spell that combos into everything. I don’t want to lose diabellstar illusion combos with cycle, or board wipes in spellcaster decks with rciela, or having silvera as a cool anti board breaker card for midrange decks that need their normal summon. The wanted recurring on the turn after it was used to search diabellstar and recycling cards to reset with diabellstar is cool and should be in the game. Diabellstar being a tier 0 combo enabler is not cool and shouldn’t be in the game. Original sinful spoils is the problem

[@kazekai6]

Maybe ban apo cause it is more generic to make since it is a link. However Baronne ban would hurt rogue synchro strategies big time. As a swordsoul player this would mean no counterplay to nib, and the deck is already not competitive, a single omni doesnt do enough anyways but lets you play a bit more

[@Rofy_TV]

My take on Snake Eyes - Limit: Flamberge / Little Knight ; Semi-Limit: Ash / Wanted ; Ban: Jet Synchron / Field Spell

[@anthonyallen265]

Also ban Baron and Apo

[@gerbygerbs7705]

I pray every night to Godnami that Zealantis is banned

[@Nin-NinYT]

Don't touch shifter- just put called by to 3

[@sinistrdairy2971]

If OSS goes to the ban list you can wanted for DStar, DStar goes and gets the trap card which is still a fine card even if it doesn't progress your turn it still does something

[@user-dn2xm2no3y]

Red reboot time

[@darklaw7635]

Ash limit and flamberge limit is the best way to hit the deck until nats

[@ZarkionUltimate]

What if they just banned Oak and then put flamberge to 1?

[@calisequoia6492]

Rather than banning snake-eye or sinful spoils, bring back many of the cards that were power crept from the previous banlist and take off many other cards off. It would really see if they have a chance against the meta relevant decks at full power.

[@voltrya6844]

hurray

[@n1ghtm3rex77]

Man the problem with snake eye is they can do all that they do while also running 15+ non engine which rn is just handtraps. I say limit ash at least this next banlist to make the deck rely more on bonfire search ash to make the desk more volatile into stuff like droll. Also yeah ban apo ban baronne 😂

[@luizhenriquelaradossantos843]

Banning Apo and Baron will make the game a little better. Costless negates are the worst design for generic extra. I like SP and Ty-phoon.

[@k0ch1]

Komoney will just print more number of powerful archetypes and win more 🤣

[@jimbo914]

Free Electrumite already

[@isaiahjack3140]

Where’s the royal check

[@ferdyoktav]

Limit Ash and Flameberg for SE maybe good hit

[@luinquisidor]

The snake eye issue is solved by banning Flamverge, thats it

[@sit8767]

True 1st?

[@Tortorrta]

Bad Farfa ending 😢

[@Leonardo.ohime.i]

do you think crossout should be limited?

[@knessy6446]

Nah

[@Prexcelsior]

It's a shame that Master Duel has become a one-dimensional coin-tossing simulator. I have temporarily switched to Magic. It actually goes further than turn 2. I hope Yugioh finds some balance again at some point. After all, it was the game of my childhood.

[@mclambtj]

Idk if i'd call this the sweet spot. I'm also sure a lot of ppl would disagree with me or think my suggestion is terrible, however from what I've heard so far this is what I would do. I would Semi Limit Snake Eye Ash, I would Semi Limit Wanted, and I would limit Poplar.

[@piuxpiupo9310]

Toxic herald players on your face finaly people will play drytron as he was truly meant

[@clash7067]

Ngl ban Ip maquerena is my take. The card just brakes an entire mechanic. Also it woukd hit both snake eye endboards

[@Funxion_]

Ban jet synchron limit snake-eyes Ash is the way to go , imo just banning original sinful spoils would make the meta a lot more fun but I don't think they will

[@LUwUcii]

Free my girl Kitkallos

[@gerbygerbs7705]

Sanctifire isn't even good, it's only a one of in Branded. It and tip should both be at 3

[@zakariaelhimer1325]

You only need 1 tho

[@gerbygerbs7705]

@@zakariaelhimer1325 shhh

[@Drachenherz1901]

Ban original is obviously the best solution.

[@hopper87hopper]

Sure, just kill the bridge to literally every other fire deck. Super smart idea dude

[@opssoldier3316]

@@hopper87hopperI never understood players like this. People don’t understand if they have daggers in their eyes just hitting a deck hard like that doesn’t help the health of the game at all, it just makes the game worse. Decks should be allowed to play, just with less power.

[@Drachenherz1901]

@@opssoldier3316 lol are you actually play the deck? You do not need original, it is just broken giving access to jetsynchron/ponix/hydrant from deck with like 15 one card starters. You guys really think this deck is dead without original is absolutely delusional. The problem card is obviously original because its a bridge to everything lol, just like broadbull was the problem because it was a bridge to every beast warrior

[@sugondiesthephilosopher]

I play against kkwut from time to time. I think it's a real player, they goof around.

[@KhiemNguyen-rg7wd]

So why don’t give back us 3 drayas josh

[@kirisecruzxiong1448]

Can they bring back mystic mine

[@THELORDVODKA]

He completley skipped tearlament situation. Its totally possible Merrli goes to 1 or Havnis to 2 as they released their secret pack. Deck as it is now is actually somewhat decent and very fun to play as it requires alot of engineering and precise moves to pull proper plays. Shifter banned or limited is totally believable as well

[@MCoopZ14]

The nerf to tear was necessary but I think with full power snake eyes it would be amazing or have merli back!

[@THELORDVODKA]

@@MCoopZ14 Oh absolutely necessary Tear even without ishizu is smooth T1 far better than Snake eyes. But in it's limited form I wouldn't be surprised if Konami brought either Havnis to 2 or merli to 1 for secret pack sales. Deck would stil be t2-3 tops but it would actually play how it's meant (in case merli gets unbanned, Havnis to 2 wouldn't change much other than QoL).

[@matjazpizzepuzzepu7481]

This banlist is for TCG. Not MD

[@killuafan4365]

I mean tear is manageable without ishuzu cards. At least you can bystial them. Fire decks just.... Even 2 handtraps feel useless against it. The only time I can beat a fire deck consistently is if I draw my Protos for fire in Swosou. If Instant fusion for kitkallos is not in the game, tear with graveyard good stuff is kinda mid. There needs to be more graveyard interruptions similar to called by for the game nowadays, they have on field effects and graveyard effects that can be activated in the same turn.

[@jeanlouis3169]

And nobody talk about voiceless that can play trought drool, nibiru and target negate

[@matjazpizzepuzzepu7481]

Superpoly or bystials/crow and they are cooked

[@RickKong1998]

How to handle Snake Eye? Probably unban kitkallos XD

[@GutsmanLoL]

ban reino :)

[@WingedEspeon]

unironically that might make for a fun format.

[@cjramos1158]

Yeah, since the millers are banned I think tear wont be a tier 1 deck in TCG

[@lixiang4051]

2:52:17 how the fuck is Josh complaining about opponent having ash and combo when he opens extrav imperm ash maxx c welcome?

[@johntheamazing9337]

ban hiita is unironically the best way to hit snake eye without killing it.

[@tylerbates2286]

Bonfire to1 Linkuriboh banned Black witch to 1 This doesn't make the deck unplayable and hits consistency of the deck. Hurts opening multiple wanted. This also prevents some of the linkuriboh plays dodging imperm and battlephase shenanigans. Also ROTA at 1 bonfire is ROTA for fire decks just feels right.

[@kannachi2971]

im unhappy with that mr josh why would me as branded player agree to ban my own card? seems funny to me how about konami stop creating floodgates and ban them all whats funny is u count everyone as they using puppet locks which kinda cringe tbh i dont and i like my dragon to be in the game to enjoy it the way i like also if we gonna bring unfair cards well guess what "runick fountain" should get ban that card unhealthy the whole archetype unhealthy going +3 seems fair Yes ofc

[@jeanlouis3169]

Man its been only 1 month about the snake eye deck can you stop speaking about a banlist and kill a deck that has 1 month in life Time, kashtira domminated the tcg about 9 month man

[@Devid_intracosmos]

kashtira never been a tier 0 deck lol

[@gerbygerbs7705]

Snake eye was released in AGOV months ago and did basically nothing, then Konami power crept the entire game and it's not just dominating, it's completely crushing the field to the point where the only viable deck to win at a competitive level is to play snake eye. The second best deck is something like 10x less represented because the gap is that wide.

[@killuafan4365]

I'm pretty sure even with Ariseheart... They were still worse than handicapped tear. Kashtira was like what? Worse floo in that span? After hitting Kashtira even Floo felt better than it. The only strong card in Kash nowadays are Fenrir, maybe Unicorn and the occasional "Kashtira" cards bridging archetypes like Manadium etc, plus they brick like hell. I've never had any problem with Kashtira apart from Fenrir being too strong.

[@Vi-bc9xx]

just kill snake eyes if you want other fire deck played

[@1337Sess]

I think the Original Sinful Spoils - Snake Eye ban could be a good pick while leaving the rest of the cards potentially unhit. It cuts off Diabellstar from accessing the Snake-Eyes Engine and makes Jet Synchron plays not really work. It reduces the power of the deck without just being a consistency hit and also will probably stop the engine from showing up in every fire deck since the card that tutors all the strong level 1 fires is gone. Pure Snake-eyes could still be able to make some plays by going Snake Eye Ash > Poplar or Bonfire into Poplar, but now Poplar will just get the field spell or something else and the power of the 1 card starters is vastly reduced. Maybe people play more copies of Oak and run Birch to access the other parts of the engine, or it becomes more focused on the grind game than setting up a big board. Diabellstar might still have some utility with getting the omni-negate trap or Subversion and has synergy with Dramatic Snake-Eye Chase as well. Plus people who invested in Diabellstar/Wanted still have things to look forward to with future Sinful Spoils support. And Apollousa and Baronne I agree should get the ban hammer! I'm tired of all the generic boards that just spit out those 2 boss monsters.