Assassin's Creed | Who's The Dumbest Templar?

[@balinblackwood351]

Well Charles Lee running away from Connor was pretty smart though

[@RainSennin_ismyAlt]

Yes, it's also never a good idea to piss off Connor

[@nicholasrocher2742]

Charles Lee must have been shocked when years later the Native American kid he choked appeared in those Assassin robes mercing entire platoons with just a tomahawk.

[@TheGB1]

​@@RainSennin_ismyAlt It was also a bad idea to be friends with Connor because he could stab you in the back

[@Helldiver_M1]

@@TheGB1 excuse me? Connor would not do that

[@twbillionare9568]

Yeah the only friend he killed was his childhood best friend but his hand was forced for that

[@RainSennin_ismyAlt]

In my opinion, Cesare as first with Starrick as a very close second. Cesare is the dumbest for me because he's supposed to be the big bad of AC Brotherhood and Machiavelli really hyped him up. He could have been the calculating and intellectual leader who is also a very fine warrior but in the end, he kept on making rash decisions that resulted in his own downfall. In fact, I'm pretty sure Ezio never really considered him a threat as a singular person.

[@assassin_pikachu]

I completely agree. Cesare rushed to decisions to whatever he thought would give him the advantage. He didn't think twice about any of the actions he made and he thought he could pummel the Assassins thinking that no significant action would be taken from them. Due to all this happening, this is why Rodrigo told him that he needed to take responsibility for his actions to which, of course, Cesare would put blame on his father instead of taking the responsibility himself. Even though Starrick was pretty stupid, I feel like he was just meant to be dumb, and while the same could be said for Cesare, he only became powerful because of his father and rode on his father's money and power. At least Starrick had some smarts to build up the rail industry handed to him which is something Cesare couldn't do. In a nutshell, Starrick gained and exhausted resources whilst Cesare only really exhausted resources gaining only a fraction of what he exhausted.

[@blanketdtf]

Exactly. An excellent soldier but a very poor politician. His ‘power moves’ on the extreme off-chance it did work wouldnt net as many profits as he thinks

[@georgeprchal3924]

So completely unlike his real life counterpart?

[@joelrobinson5457]

He killed his father believing himself to be invincible, then never realised his father being pope was the only reason he had any power in the first place

[@Handlelesswithme]

And in history Cesare was an evil conniving genius loved and feared by all of Italy He wouldn’t have acted rash with all his scheming He would definitely have not loss the people’s favor to a Firenza hoodlum

[@dinounit67]

In defense of Starrik. He was the only one of these templars already sitting in top of the world, basically controlling the world’s mightiest city. The Assassins had been crushed and he didn’t believe any one would stand up to him. Making him develop his stupid arrogance. I would put Cesare as more stupid than either him or Lee.

[@jbcatz5]

The Frye twins did take down his Templars in a short timeframe so he didn’t have the luxury of time to plug the gaps in his organisation or adapt to their sudden attack on his power base the way figures like Robert de Sable did to anticipate Altaïr’s presence and plan accordingly.

[@dinounit67]

@@jbcatz5 Exactly. Starrik wasn't stupid, just arrogant. And arrogance blinds you.

[@RaulitoTheAssassin]

What happend to starrick he underrastiment the twins imagine! He the biggest boss of the templar and control london! And the only ppl that goes against him is jacob a stupid assassin i love jacob but the truth is the truth and evie a young girl so that what happen starrick was like " oh they aint gonna do shit they would lose " but wend they kill his cousin is what make him realized that the twins were kicking ass! But it was already late he should of deal with the twins sonner not after they defeated the blighthers.

[@BlazerK1914]

Crawford: “Muahahahaha! I am the greatest Templar ever!” Evie: “Hey.” Crawford: “Huh?”

[@XLORDPROPL]

He was greatest Templar not greatest Assassin. Comparing Templar to Assassin is like comparing blade to flesh. Templars live, Assassins make them die. He was probably greatest being Templar, maybe even better than Evie, but not better at assassinations.

[@matejbotek5396]

​@@XLORDPROPLevie killed starick that's what he meant

[@Igvga]

Both of them killed him did you play the game it wasn’t just Evie

[@Imperium_protector]

Whose evie?.. (a joke cause she's forgettable like... Well everyone in syndicate as is the whole game)

[@cybertramon0012]

I don't know about the others, but I'd definitely say that Rodrigo is certainly not the dumbed. Sure, he does a lot of pointlessly evil things in his quest for power, but in Brotherhood, he was smart enough to not want to antagonize Ezio. He lost, got his ass beat, Ezio was merciful enough to let him live, and he realised he should count himself lucky and focus the templars elsewhere.

[@Pinakiprime910]

wasnt he one of the smartest? cuz he kinda did have a plan and if not for ezio he prolly would have easily succeded as he shambled the brotherhood

[@jbcatz5]

Points for Robert’s intelligence 1) He uses Altaïr’s body count to rally two opposing forces in order to take Masyaf. This fails because he didn’t get to King Richard or Saladin in time, but props for using the Templar losses to his advantage. 2) He anticipates Altaïr being at the funeral of one of his former targets to try ambush him, and sending in Maria as a body double as well. Sure he underestimated Altaïr’s renewed understanding of the Creed, but again he used his enemy’s past actions to make an almost effective plan against him.

[@thomaswilson8080]

A cool video idea would An video on each assassin swapping places in each games and how the story’s would changes an example: if Conner was the main character of unity. You explain how you think Conner would do against the Templars at that time if you think he would do better or worse then Arno and how he would react to the assassin’s Edit: thank you for the likes and the nice comments 😀

[@luckyluke31813]

I really like this idea. Hopefully MA sees this

[@Gamerboy-fm5mt]

Great idea!!

[@TheLuconic]

This could be a series. what if scenarios of different assassins in different time periods and how they would approach it.

[@00martoneniris86]

Do it master Assassin

[@sleepycreed4285]

I asked him something similar to this in a video a while ago, a what if Connor fought Rodrigo or Ezio fought Charles Lee. He thought it was a good idea so maybe what you and I are thinking is in the pipeline 😁

[@rustyshackle8000]

Knew from the start Haytham wouldn't be the dumbest. Legitimately one of the most intelligent, charming, and well articulated character in the series. In the way Ezio represented the best aspects of the Assassin's, Haytham represented the best parts of the Templars. If they'd met, things may have ended differently, honestly.

[@markzilla6895]

his only dumb moment is putting too much faith and power into Lee, who repeatedly had shown himself to be an ill fit to be a high-ranking Templar

[@christophermercer8791]

​@@markzilla6895 What makes it worse is that in the book, Haytham did see through Lee at first. He noticed him trying way too hard to impress him and then giving everyone at the docks a dirty look when they first met. That ultimately led to his downfall as he didn't want the admit all those years in trusting Lee was a mistake.

[@hannibalburgers477]

He seems to not 100% on Templar code, and wants to distance himself from European order. Why does he provoke Connor anyway? As far as I know Connor is his only (and even if he is not, clearly his most competent) child. He could just steer Connor to be his heir and personal operator. Connor only has beef with Lee, Haytham could easily dismiss such a man as he clearly outlived his usefulness. This way him and his son they could have made a new inner establishment among both sides. There will always be a Templar order and Assassin Brotherhood. At least both could be manipulated by same dynasty, your family. Keep that in mind, most members of both organisations don't care about the ideals. Most templars just seek for trade partners, allies in politics, information etc. And most assassins are either anti-authoritarian reactionary rebels, or murderous criminals who are after some quick cash. Who cares about world ending prophecies, prophets and Isu etc.

[@hannibalburgers477]

Not even grandmasters of the Brotherhood cares. Late Altair cared only about peace of his people and well being of his family, Ezio didn't cared until his 40s, and only cared after because he had no other option. Connor again is after revenge and well being of his people. Arno is there for Elise, Jacob and Evie was born into it, Bayek was there for revenge, rest was there for money. Do you see a pattern here? They change, of course, but they change because of the templar threat. And only few madmen who want to control the world that causes all the middlemen to die. And nobody (in his right mind) went to the brotherhood, studied the creed, believed it with all his mind and heart and became an Assassin. I see a pattern here.

[@thepriorstone4064]

That would be a fun conversation to hear. Doesn’t Haytham have a particular distaste for the Assassins though? I mean the only reason he and Connor had any kind of dialogue is because they are related, and even then Haytham put Connors life on the line on multiple occasions because of the Assassins

[@krazyfinndude666]

It's wild to think that if Charles Lee never did go to that forest and casually beat up a random native american child, we would have never gotten one of the most memeable lines in the franchise, that being of course GIVE ME LEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

[@chrishilton3626]

I still can’t understand why they were there and why did they just leave before Washington’s troops showed up?

[@michaeltaylor815]

You know what I just realized, Crawford Starrick is like most of the FC6 side villains, you don't have much interaction with him until the very end where he 'needs' to die, at least with the previous templars you as an assassin still interact with them quite frequently, and that kinda added on to the poor writing of him. At times it feels that the hero/villain trait of AC is going the polar opposite of that in FC, where like you said with Starrick being cartoonish evil and just wanted to control London

[@Darrickfr]

A lot of games are like that

[@jonathanpilcher337]

I don't think it's necessarily bad writing. Starrick is at the top of the world. It makes sense that he would be arrogant and complacent, laying back and doing whatever he pleases

[@Michael.CrazedAlaska]

I think the big defense for Crawford is that he was leader in the one city that was never supposed to fall, it feels in a way like, “well he’s not the best Templar, but he is loyal, put him in the backlines”

[@connorwiederich]

Charles Lee choosing to not kill Connor when he had him on his knees at Haytham's funeral was dumb. Gotta love how the antagonist has a chance to kill the protagonist and yet he or she wants to make them suffer first or just chooses to walk away and turn a blind eye while the henchmen make the kill instead.

[@ChristianHuye]

U forgot in the final mission he had u beat again but he lets u shoot him when he could’ve ran away more or finished Connor off.

[@connorwiederich]

@@ChristianHuye True he should have done either.

[@nicholasrocher2742]

Watching this gave me an interesting idea for a video versus series. What if you took a Templar leader from one period and pitted them against an Assassin from another. For example, taking Rodrigo Borgia and putting him in charge of the Victorian England Templars to go up against Jacob and Evie Frye, and discuss how it would unfold. That would make for some interesting what if scenarios.

[@NotRJ001]

Jacob and Evie would just jump him bruh😂 it's a 2v1 after all.

[@paprus5972]

Shay vs Literally any assassin would be quite interesting. If anything, I expect that instead of him killing the assassin, he either makes them a Templar or becomes an Assassin again.

[@creed8712]

Feel like that would be hard to do depending what the boundaries are. Is he still the pope or is it just him without that power in the position of Crawfish?

[@wgnd1614]

did you and thomas copied each other or what? literally 2 exact same comments very close to one another....

[@Jay-kz7mw]

"Pissing off ezio is just never a good idea." that it took the templars 3 generations to realise that says a LOT about them

[@michellerahe4853]

Imo i feel like Shay was just so lost and confused. Most the time he didn't even believe in the Templar code either. His whole conflicting feelings about who's right just makes rogues story for me feel all over the place a bit

[@mattsinclair9149]

Aveline’s mom from Liberation certainly not dumb either if Liberation and Freedom Cry eventually get added here too.

[@CptDawner]

Shay is pretty smart, good tactician, wish we got a sequel where Arno would’ve hunted him down, maybe with Connors help.

[@Shauntheduke.]

We at lease got to see a book sequel with his grandson being a assassin hunter as well.

[@wolphdrake3714]

This one was such a fun video! Very tough choice for the dumbest of templars indeed. I was almost sure you would pick either Cesare or Lee, but even if I never played Syndicate, I understand Starrick is a prime candidate in this category as well. Well played!

[@thekillers1stfan]

Cesare being dumb is so ahistorical. The Prince is not just written about him, but it's written mostly because Macchivelli wanted to show how even a truly impressive statesman could fuck up.

[@Ricvictors]

The irony in Syndicate is that, while Starrick is the main villain, all the other secondary villains are better villains and smarter than he is. Maxwell Roth is like a better version of Starrick, way more intimidating and charismatic.

[@bluntlyhonest6803]

"cartoonishly evil" Hes even got the mustache.

[@NemesisHNL]

The fact Charles singlehandedly caused the dismantle of the Colonial branch because of a power trip is INSANE lmao

[@YEY0806]

That's what you get when you ally with a racist 😂

[@ceos3598]

I don´t think that Starrick can be called the dumbest templar, because he managed to get this big and important city London completely under his control. The whole infrastructure and the gangs of London were completely in his hands and that is something a dumb person can not achieve. Based on what we see in Syndicate he can be called dumb, but with this background of his control of London I don´t think he is a better choice for "dumbest templar" than Lee or Cesare.

[@King_Nothing_Official]

0:34 Me who played Syndicate as my first AC game: *crying intensifies*

[@aryanahuja8394]

Same 😢

[@PoorManatee6197]

Technically not a templar but the spartan king in Oddysey takes the gold medal for me, he reveals himself to you and instead of executing you or something he just lefts you at the border of the city so you can come back and kill him, he also doesnt try to hyde but goes to his own house.

[@sandercohen9712]

I haven't played all of the games, but Garnier de Naplouse always struck me as the most redeemable (sub) villain of all the ones I have seen. He uses brutal methods, but he genuinely believes that he is doing good by reforming sick people into soldiers, giving beggars a chance for a better life. When Altair debates him he almost persuades Altair that he was actually doing good. If Robert de Sable is one of the dumbest, then I think Garnier was one of the most intelligent.

[@TheDream6842]

For me Torres was the most meh templar. He wasn't so developped. He was just present in the begening and desappeared until a middle game mission then desappeared again to appear in the last ones.

[@alexevans4637]

He suffered of poor writing.

[@raes704]

Torres is actually a pretty unique Templar, he is one of the kindest, that’s why he gives his enemies many chances.

[@ChristianHuye]

I was sure Charles Lee would win. Between choking a Native American boy who would grow up to hunt him down and his final mission where he has Connor beat, then gives him a whole “You lost” monologue just to let a severely injured Connor shoot him(when he could’ve finished Connor off or walked away). Charles Lee literally has a single digit IQ.

[@Official_MikeyT]

Charles Lee was such a bizarre character. When we first meet him he's an earnest and well mannered person but the next time we see him he's a power hungry Sociopath. What the hell happened to him because he is the only ACIII templar tmwho had a dramatic personality shift. The others were exactly the same at the start of the game and later in the game.

[@zer0fukz790]

Anyone else REALLY want to see Ezio vs Haytham and no excuses about Haytham just having guns

[@00martoneniris86]

Ezio also got an gun an Hidden gun

[@zer0fukz790]

@@00martoneniris86 true but a small fire arm (or should I say Fire Wrist) on your wrist isnt gonna save you from a flintlock that is just entirely better

[@grandmasternarginder5435]

@@zer0fukz790 I think it’s best if there’s no range weapons

[@zer0fukz790]

@@grandmasternarginder5435 yeah I'd prefer that because most youtubers that cover this just say the one with the gun wins

[@Clowtser]

Ezio holds high profile and occasionally presses counter and taunt, while Haytham spams counter til one outlasts the other

[@snakethejake97]

I would say Cesare because he didn’t know when to quit and that’s what ultimately lead to his death

[@AimlessSavant]

3:45 Replaying AC4 it is heavily implied Torres knows Edward is bullshitting himself as Walpole. He strings Edward along to be an errand boy until the night he tries breaking the sage out of captivity.

[@dylanwoods5944]

An idea could be who is like the most extroverted or introverted Assassin.

[@gt5bonelesshuman421]

Ezio and Edward are the most extroverted

[@Rodrigo_B_Viana]

@@gt5bonelesshuman421 and Altair the most introverted

[@gt5bonelesshuman421]

@@Rodrigo_B_Viana Yes

[@l0c0latin06]

Amazing video been watching you for months funny asf keep it up !!!

[@chatnoir154]

I mean... Haytham allowing himself to get killed by his own son was kind of dumb, but on the other hand I kind of get the point that he technically had no choice.

[@OverLorD768]

The thing about Haytham is that he was too old and tired to keep fighting, and didn't really believed in Templars anymore. Plus, he didn't want to kill Connor, his own son. The goal for him there was to secure the future of Templars in Frontier by giving Lee enough time to escape. Which he did, but not for long.

[@mysticalbeing7468]

That was not a dumb move, he was tired of everything and he never wanted to kill Connor anyway

[@SX41799]

2:15 I don't see an apprentice. I see a strong man dominating one of the most badass assassins.

[@svudet2009]

most influential support character/assassin best friend. without leo, ezio wouldn't have been as successful as he was. without achilles, more wise in his older years, connor wouldn't have had the training/knowledge, bayek had aya, evie and jacob had henry, etc.

[@mrpro7987]

Another w video from master assassin himself. Even making me jealous that I’m not in this franchise

[@FPM17]

How do you know it’s a good video if it’s only been out for 2 minutes???

[@gniusz934]

@@FPM17 He used the force

[@mrpro7987]

@@FPM17 i used the force

[@omarsamir1461]

​@Darth Vader that's not how the force works

[@mrpro7987]

@@omarsamir1461 I find your lack of faith disturbing

[@maximumprowerfox4562]

In my opinion if we were counting the templars origins and we could choose multiple it would be every templar that chose to kill bayek and amunets son had they not done so their plans might have gone unnoticed

[@darrenpelzer5812]

In my opinion one of the dumbest templats we saw in the games was minsieur de la serre in unity. He had arno living with him for years and could have made him believe the assassins killed his dad making arno one of the best assassin hunters the order would have known but chose not to introduce arno to the conflict at all

[@stanfromuzbekistan8282]

To be fair, De Laserre was for the most part a moderate Templar who remained diplomatic concerning the Assassins. De Laserre and Mirabeau were responsible for the truce between the Parisian Assassins and Templars. The reason they died was because the more radical/fanatic elements of their orders needed them gone. If Francois De Laserre were truly invested in Arno as a Templar he would’ve done more to pull him into the Templar Order than to send his daughter. But it was clear that his desire to make Arno a Templar was a fleeting intention and not a true portent of indoctrination. Arguably, I believe this is more a verification of good character than indictment of a bad Templar. In the end he had been right, the fanatic elements of the Templar Order almost destroyed it-as well as their enemies.

[@datnguyen-ob6gn]

Starrick seems like the type to twirl his moustache while getting away after robbing a bank

[@doomedspartan3608]

I think Cesare is wayyy more power hungry than dumb.He was literally blinded by power

[@cursedbusta3774]

And if he loses it, or does not obtain it, he goes puppy dog eyes and cries lmao.

[@kevind3974]

Let’s be honest here the fact that Germaine wasn’t dumber or crazier is actually a testimony to him. Dude was a sage of axton the fact he wasn’t coco is already commendable as axton by that point already lead about 10 known sages of himself into pure insanity

[@edgyomellete0121]

Whos Axton?

[@kevind3974]

@@edgyomellete0121 sorry wrong god. Aita. He was the sage of Aita

[@sergentoddball3617]

Ok i have to disagree on the first one. "He was too weak trying to control only one city" Yeah, LONDON. The most powerful capital of the most powerful empire at the time. (And im french). You control London, you control the world.

[@jbcatz5]

Not to mention he kept the Assassins scared out of London except for Henry Green until Jacob and Evie defied their elders and went in with only Henry as support.

[@mornereview7106]

awesome video man always gets better and better

[@XLORDPROPL]

Dumbest Templar Was Edward James Kenway Because he became Assassin and dumbest Assassin was Shay Patrick Cormac because he became Templar. Change my mind.

[@69...]

Edward never really was a templar

[@SIMPH0N0SO]

Edward wasnt a templar, he went to Havana in search of god

[@debabratasaha9190]

​@@SIMPH0N0SO you mean gold

[@jonathanwyatt6572]

​​@@69... Well...he was unwittingly

[@nat129]

Caesare's attack on Monteriggioni was a masterstroke that netted him the Apple, killed Mario, and crippled Ezio. Caesare screwed up everything only *after* that. Starrick deserves more credit for creating the economic-scientific-criminal machine he sat at the center of. Like Caesare, he was slow to adapt to changing circumstances, but he had a strong set-up. Charles Lee was dumbest. His cruelty served no purpose and just made him enemies. He didn't create a machine, but was merely a loyal cog in one. His only real sign of intelligence was that Haythem believed in him.

[@thegamingdave5089]

I don't really know if being dumb is the right term. I think it is a cross between not fully understanding the risks of being a Templar and made an illusion they are untouchable. In this case, untouchable is not literal, the way I was using it I meant that they overestimating themselves (the Templar), and underestimating their opponent (the Brotherhood). This is not in all cases though. A great example of this is Shay. He is an exception to this rule because he knew what the Assassins were capable of before attacking. On a side-note It has been quite some time since I have played AC Rogue, so don't quote me on the attacking part. I do remember that he didn't attack first in the first mission when he was punched by his boss (and in another mission which I forgot the name of).

[@cambread2631]

I’ve been waiting for this 🎉

[@trustinphelps6033]

Hey so probably not the greatest idea but I was wondering if you could do like, ranking the hideouts? Ya know cause there’s quite a few like homestead, masayf or however you spell it, the ac unity hideout, and even include rogues? I can’t remember if he actually ended up with a hide out but… nonetheless im sure you can make it work. Thanks!

[@TheFirstCurse1]

That's a good idea actually. I personally like Unity's hideout the most. The Cafe was awesome with all of the rooms, and it feels so good to renovate and fill with mementos.

[@thanhlongvo7092]

for me, cesare is the dumbest due to his ambition for rule the world and he thought that he couldnt be killed by any one, also he thought that kill mario and messed with ezio was a good idea but in truth was not, we can see in ac 2 when ezio brothers and father publically execution which not only enraged him but let him went on full revenge + anger mode. we can also see this when sofia kidnapped and yusuf killed which made him angry like in ac 2 and brother hood.

[@aaron75fy]

he probably thought that if he did then that would make Ezio reckless since emotions can cloud judgment, then at the moment one of the expendables would kill him

[@thanhlongvo7092]

@@aaron75fy assuming that it may be true but lets think on this: on ac 2, not only ezio got in rage for wanting revenge for his family but also he is very calm due to his uncle and others assassin fellow guidance. so in other words, like if any soldier of cesare can able to kill him but ezio skills were unmatched, to the end killing ezio while he is enrage and his skills are not compared so its a no go for them.

[@aaron75fy]

@@thanhlongvo7092 he still got caught before he could do anything though, if the army he brought to the invasion was more competent we wouldn't have a game

[@thanhlongvo7092]

@@aaron75fy dont you remember that each main character in each time line can face and destroy whole army at once? same thing with ezio, and also at the time cesare just want to taunt ezio and command the sniper only to shoot him but not kill him off.

[@aaron75fy]

@@thanhlongvo7092 like I said, there would not be a game

[@mr.pigstashe988]

I would honestly say Cesare is the dumbest. Starrick's way of establishing his reign requires a tad bit of thought honestly. Starrick was basically a businessman. He had control over gang leaders, almost every manufacturer in London, omnibuses, trains, electronic communication, medicines. This guy had carefully placed his own men and women in control of these things. With the amount of thought it takes to do that, I would consider Cesare to be more dumb. Starrick although is a goofy villain and his motives make no sense. But Cesare was in command of armies, and he was widely popular. But based on Cesare's actions throughout the game, he acted with haste, and planned without much forethought. Starrick may have been insane, but he was way more methodical than Cesare or Charles Lee.

[@metallord6960]

Interesting thought for a what if. What if Connor saw who burned his village and joined the Templars.

[@meltbananasteve]

0:59 killing someone for interrupting you when you play the piano sounds extreme, until I remember how murderous I can be when being interrupted while gaming 😂

[@majorbombas]

This killing your own henchman because he interupted you, is so fucking dumb... I hate this trope... You are not making someone scary by writting scene this way, you just have presented him as a psycho or a man child.

[@pablochiarelli7818]

This might be a weird one, but maybe a which templar was harder to defeat, ranking both side quests to weaken them and the boss battles

[@artofthepossible7329]

If I recall the timeline properly, Rodrigo has the longest tenure between the playable Assassin beginning their quest to tear you down, and it actually being done, heck it took 2 games for it to be done, which should probably count for something.

[@stoneymaloney481]

We needa see a Bayek VS Conner!!

[@gachalordnoobie4911]

As "cartoonish" as Starrick was, he was really charismatic - I honestly wish he was used more.

[@DonSoprano47]

Haythem was definitely the smartest Templar as he wasn’t easily influenced by others or at the attempt of power or riches he obviously had power and money but he was set in completing his objectives and goals himself whereas other Templar’s simply used others to complete their goals like Crawford Starrick Chesare Borgia and the AC4 Templar’s

[@calebmoak186]

I would put Lee in place of Starrick. Starrick did manage to basicly own London and keep it for many years while the Assassins were hopeless. You could argue that his subordinates were the reason for this, but he was still smart enough control every aspect of society through them.

[@sidequestJil]

first of all, amazing video and i see why you say starrick is the dumbest but i personally wouldnt put him completly att the bottom because his plans i think were pretty grand with him slowly taking over England as the dominant world power at the time, while yes he was a cartoonish villain his goals and ways to get his goals were just that grand i'd say

[@markwalch6065]

Cesera was dumb, but theres a good argument Ezio was even dumber. If he,d taken the advice of a certain character in assasins creed 2 and not allowed Rodrigo to live.....chances are, Bhood wouldnt have happened. Then when it does happen said character reminds Ezio of this fact.

[@iwanegerstrom4564]

Charles Lee. A bully and a psychopath. When being apprenticed by Haytham, he appears to be humble and respectful at first, but it's clear later that it's only a ruse. As soon as Haytham is away, he basically antagonizes everyone and everything he comes across, leading to the downfall of the Templars in North America. While Haytham was cool, thoughtful and calculating, Lee was brutal, reckless and impulsive.

[@jbcatz5]

All of the people Haytham recruits in the prologue end up chasing their own goals, it’s why Haytham helps Connor in killing one of them.

[@Eddieavina123]

Love your video, and you should do it if everyone's assassin and templar switch everyone game and which game they should be in

[@bodo-bing]

As much as I love Brotherhood, between Cesare, Juan Borgia, and the Baron it sometimes felt like I was dealing with a panto! The regular costume changes didn't help.

[@jbcatz5]

To give balance, Shay didn’t exactly frame his perspective to Achilles in the best way. He used inexact, emotional language rather than articulating how the goal of the mission was the direct cause of the earthquake. The Templars know how to pull his strings, leaving him with an Irish family to recover who just happen to have a son who went off fighting a cause and who needed protection, something they knew he’d be sympathetic to. It doesn’t help that the Assassins aren’t presented to be sympathetic to begin with or at least after Lisbon, but that could be Shay’s later Templar aligned mindset influencing his earlier memories.

[@uncolored2060]

🎶Cesare, oh Cesare A man of great depravity Believed himself immortal 'til He had a date with gravity 🎶

[@wontedplayer]

bros next video is: Assassin's creed| who's the hottest....

[@maxress9096]

Or which Assassin has the most rizz

[@wontedplayer]

@@maxress9096 yeah

[@RainSennin_ismyAlt]

@@maxress9096 easy. Ezio then Arno

[@jbcatz5]

I do note you’ve only done historical Templars, nothing from the modern day. Vidic, Daniel Cross (he’s got more background in the comics), Otso Berg, Alan Rikkin, they’re Templars too.

[@blanketdtf]

Dumbest Templar is my homie Tony. Bro just don’t think sometimes

[@gachalordnoobie4911]

Bruh Germain literally laid the foundation for Abstergo. His actions are the reasons the templar order became more capitalistic and eventually became Abstergo.

[@theunknown8075]

Rodrigo wanted the Apple when he was young and he died receiving it. (This was not his expectation)

[@crafter7jake874]

add the chronicles games too pls als olove youir vids i get hyped every time i see you have uploaded

[@TheJoaovicente]

Starrik I think is the dumbest. He would just complain and play his piano while you took london district by district.

[@das1prinzip]

Please, the dumbest is Vieri de Pazzi, He's got a long (dumb) Dispute with Ezio when He already Knew, that his dad is an assassin. Why put yourself on target first? Prove me wrong

[@BlazeIgnitus]

Honestly, the historical Cesare was immensely intelligent, with his only downfall being trusting a new pope after his father died of malaria (yes, that's what killed Alexander VI: malaria). Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood did him an immense disservice with how he was written as reckless.

[@AllHailMe12431]

I agree on Starrick being the dumbest of the lot. Cesare Borgia was an idiot as well, but what propels Starrick even further is the Final battle sequence. Whereas he went to collect a piece of Eden, one of the most important artifacts for the templar order, and he went in, unarmed. If he had so much as a small knife, he could have easily killed both the Frye twins right then and there, but he didn't. Instead he just chokes them, allowing the other twin to stop him.

[@jnort95]

Great Video!

[@jerQCote]

Shay was definitely dumb. He entered his confrontation with Achilles hot headed as can be when it must have taken him days if not weeks to get back to the homestead and bring his concerns in a convincing manner. He could've convinced Achilles. He could've convinced his old comrades. He didn't try

[@petrxvic]

Haytham is one of the smartest characters in general, but dumb move of him to choke his son out who also happens to have hidden blades on his arms lmao

[@lordtouchme77]

He did it on purpossed so that connor could kill him. Why do you think he left and entrusted his journal for connor so that he could read and understand his life journey?

[@Mikeh2077]

Haytham knew what he was doing lol. He wasn’t blind to Connor having dual blades.

[@MembersOfHistory]

Haytham is probably the third smartest , after altair and ezio

[@Poke-ladd]

I probably forgot by why was Charlies lee and the crew nearby the native Indian village, since it was apparently Washington

[@moonrock115]

I’d have said the dumbest is Charles Lee. He did very little if anything to benefit the Templars agenda or goals, and was essentially a bulldog in human clothing. Starrick I would rank next to Lee because even though he was the grandmaster of the English Templar Order at the time, he came off as more of a gang leader than a leader of a religious, enlightened order (which tbh fits the game he was in since it’s Victorian London and you’re mostly fighting mobsters). He craved personal power above all else and it’s a shock that the Templars didn’t kill him themselves for putting himself over the order. Cesare Borgia I would’ve ranked as the bronze medalist. Yes he’s fecking bonkers like Starrick is, but for the most part Cesare has control over his madness, only losing that control during Brotherhood when his life as Italy’s favoured son starts to unravel and his sordid affair with his sister is made public. I even doubt he was a true templar as he never enacts thier goals or agenda the same way his father did, and just uses his armies to take what he wants when he wants by force. That said, because he controlled himself better than Starrick (who would shoot a henchman just for interrupting him with important news), and as such he held onto the reigns of power for much longer. Now in terms of the best Templars, I’d have said Rodrigo Borgia sits at the top for the fact he never sought power for his own sake, but purely for furthering the influence of the order. Yes the personal power he had as the pope was nice but it was never the endgame. As pope the ammount of things the Templars could do was vastly expanded, not just in Italy but the whole of Europe, who all respected or were wary of the Papacy. Haytham Kenway is the silver medalist for me as while he’s nowhere near a master manipulator like Rodrigo Borgia was, he was still highly intelligent and capable, and like Borgia, never sought out personal power for his own gain, and in fact pursued greater influence for the Templars with an even greater determination than Rodrigo did. He was also more open minded than Rodrigo, who I imagine would’ve scoffed at the idea of letting assassins join the order under any means. The bronze medal I’m not sure who I’d really give it to to be honest. I would’ve said Al Mualim, but he was a Templar Traitor who 100% prioritised personal power over the order, with the only “good” thing he did was somehow masquerading as the Assasins Grandmaster for many years.

[@caos1925]

thinking of them historically too Ceaser was actually quite successful and Terros constantly got and lost governorships

[@JabamiLain]

I think the dumbest are Cesare (for obvious reasons) and Elise's father (for even thinking France's situation could be resolved through the manipulation and negotiation of a weak and corrupt aristocracy alone).

[@True-alias.]

Should do a video on who has the most battle iq for explain who would you want in a war they are all assassins they all have skill in this obviously but who has the most battle iq but in opinion I think it would be bayek off the fact the made most of assassin ways and trained them "ending of origins" but also could be Altair off he's feats and experience alone and maybe ezio I think it could be those 3

[@KeybladeWielderXV]

"He's not the smartest Templar, but he's not the dumbest either." Truly incredible reasoning. Care to elaborate more on Germain?

[@ad_gamer2099]

Hey master Assassin, how about doing a who’s the Hottest, Templars and Assassin’s both.

[@RandomPerson-zy5pr]

So, the moral of the movie is that the dumbest thing an antagonist can do is mess with the MC

[@mateuszmarciniak2828]

Yeah, "Brotherhood" Cesare is nothing like "Prince" Cesare

[@keekee1101]

it still bothers me that in order to show that "templars could be good too!" they had to dumb down the assassins terribly.

[@HendrikSchoeman557]

I respect the list, but I don't agree with the conclusion. Starrick to run the templars and all of London business ventures takes brains and power He was written to be a cartoonist character, but I think it was fitting for the story To run a gang like the blighters and templars takes Fear and intimidation

[@JavierMartinez-oj3rg]

Shay is my favorite Templar I’m saying this, because not only is he a powerful assassin, but the guy himself has my strong morality and moral code, and I make some a powerful openent want to be feared, and respected by a Assassins and Templars

[@ismayonnaiseanfruit2377]

My first play through of Syndicate had me sympathizing with Starrick, whereas I saw Cesare as just an entitled rich brat right from the start

[@Nilboyeegus]

*reads title* I like this video already...

[@drew6033]

I realize your reasoning for not including characters from the last 3 games, but Origins/Odyssey/Valhalla are still part of the series & I'd like to see videos that include characters from those games anyway. Bayek is usually included as an assassin, so why not include the order of ancients or cultists of Kosmos? Again, I know they aren't technically templars, but you could expand the video series to be "villains".

[@Tripolizz770]

I get your point but the order of ancients and templars are two completely different organisations. King Alfred from Valhalla reformed the order of ancients into the knight templars who fight for a more righteous and noble cause. The order of ancients just wanted power and control over the masses.

[@00martoneniris86]

I dont like this idea I think separate videos should be maked for the Hidden ones order of the Ancients kosmos

[@laughing_arbiter]

@@Tripolizz770 (cough) borgias (cough)

[@moe583]

fuck those games

[@TheFirstCurse1]

I wouldn't want them included in any of these videos. I love Assassin's Creed Odyssey but it IS NOT an Assassin's Creed game. Neither is Valhalla. The only arguable one IMO is Origins, but even that I don't want included. It's too different and far removed.

[@Volx_]

Please, play Unity without being spotted. Like you did in Valhalla :)

[@thelaw_00]

My video idea would be a fun one. Who amongst the assassins has the most kill count?

[@earlLXIX]

I want the APPLE! It's not yours it's MINE!

[@Jameswebbtelescope7484]

Next category: who was the most heroic assassin ( assassins with the most or best heroic traits)

[@jbcatz5]

You know Ezio is going to win that hands down, he’s got three games to choose from.

[@Jameswebbtelescope7484]

@@jbcatz5 honestly i can see why a lot of people like him. I personally like Arno and Shay but maybe one day I will take a look at the ezio games

[@maxschreck4095]

You chose right, ever since he killed that henchman I couldn´t take the Victorian guy seriously and that lessened my interest in the game.

[@naruzero2385]

I'm not disagreeing with your choice at the end of the video I just personally always thought that Syndicate's villain was cracked in the head to begin with.