Is Overwatch 2 in Panic Mode? - Free Skins & the Marvel Rivals Impact

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Master Ian Gamer

Master Ian Gamer

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@masteriangamer
@masteriangamer 4 күн бұрын
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@demigurlxd5781
@demigurlxd5781 4 күн бұрын
Ian! I actually know for a fact that these skins were going to be in the shop! Because day 1 the shop was majorly bugged. After I purchased the cardboard mega bundle it disappeared from the shop and the Norse mega bundle took its place. I was able to purchase the Norse mythology mega bundle and when I purchased that the widow cas mega bundle showed up in the shop I didn't purchase it cause I dont play cass and widow but it was on my page. The very next day my shop was supper bugged the widow cass skins disappeared from my shop and every time I tried to scroll down it would force me to the bottom. And I know others had the same issue. Blizzard refused to talk about it and no content creator has talked about the shop bug. But I was there I saw it and I am using Loki Sombra as my forever skin right now.
@Tron3108
@Tron3108 4 күн бұрын
Venture was supposed to get their legendary skin last season but it got pushed to this season. Probably wanted ATLA to come out after Rivals. Plus it coincided with 6v6 to pull in old players/people enjoying 6v6 in Rivals
@stormchaser7023
@stormchaser7023 4 күн бұрын
Good competition but I'm not going back to ow untill 6v6 is in comp
@whatisthis9951
@whatisthis9951 4 күн бұрын
Take your tinfoil hat off you're making things up
@IronMan-jj2fd
@IronMan-jj2fd 4 күн бұрын
The video is a bit late
@philltheotherguy1868
@philltheotherguy1868 4 күн бұрын
Good I hope they stay in panic mode
@philliptraum2788
@philliptraum2788 4 күн бұрын
This. A hundred percent this. Let competition drive fear into them. May they be driven forever out of their complacency and willingness to abuse their status in the hearts of their most devoted.
@Spikeischillfr
@Spikeischillfr 4 күн бұрын
Yesss
@hulkkkhogan
@hulkkkhogan 4 күн бұрын
Let them make more coomer bait
@gamerbeast3616
@gamerbeast3616 4 күн бұрын
they are not in a panic mode lmao
@armankiarmankii
@armankiarmankii 4 күн бұрын
Definitely hard agree. This game DESPERATELY needs competition to properly open Blizzard's eyes 💯
@PopCultureJunkie31
@PopCultureJunkie31 4 күн бұрын
The fact that it took marvel rivals for blizzard to treat its fans better is not really something to celebrate. Just shows they don’t care unless they’re threatened
@nurikkulanbaev3628
@nurikkulanbaev3628 4 күн бұрын
You think Netease or Tencent cares about "Fans"?
@mariusbrincus8967
@mariusbrincus8967 4 күн бұрын
​@nurikkulanbaev3628 yeah. Their actions with this game say so.
@marcovazquez-ou2pv
@marcovazquez-ou2pv 4 күн бұрын
​@@nurikkulanbaev3628 Certainly more than overmid.
@nurikkulanbaev3628
@nurikkulanbaev3628 4 күн бұрын
@@mariusbrincus8967 Lmao, what actions?
@Supboi
@Supboi 4 күн бұрын
​@@nurikkulanbaev3628Marvel rivals are giving away free skins, made the battle pass 5 dollars, have 0 loot boxes or predatory monetization practices such as: Locking heroes behind a harsh grind to unlock/payable currencies, loot boxes, impossible to unlock skins without paying money for a specific currency and temporary battle passes which forces people to grind and play a specific game to unlock each tier. How is this not "caring" about the fan base? They're literally losing money for not being predatory (similar to Apex, Call of duty, Overwatch, Dead by daylight, Valorant etc) These games basically force you to pay money for the bare minimum. Literally half the game is LOCKED behind a fake grind to "unlock" characters. Marval rivals threw that ideology out and decided to give the people what they want. A game. No grind necessary! That's sick!
@idontevengame1
@idontevengame1 4 күн бұрын
We used to get 3 free skins every event. People have no idea how good we had it with the lootboxes
@RacingSnails64
@RacingSnails64 4 күн бұрын
Ehh I wouldn't say lootboxes were "good." Both systems have their pros and cons. Lootboxes were free, but random. OW2 has steep prices, but at least you can directly buy what you want.
@idontevengame1
@idontevengame1 4 күн бұрын
@@RacingSnails64 They were 1000000% better. Didn't spend a single dime besides buying the game and had pretty much every skin.
@panpan4757
@panpan4757 4 күн бұрын
hell some events i would end up with every legendary if i played enough, nowadays if theres a cool skin it feels like im just praying its free or probably wont bother
@berkalikalila
@berkalikalila 4 күн бұрын
​@@RacingSnails64 enough time has passed to say Lootbox IS better. Its simply because blizzard NEVER give any new skins or cosmetics ever again other than ever shrinking battlepass 🤣
@jacob3761
@jacob3761 4 күн бұрын
@@RacingSnails64with lootboxes, if you didn’t get the one you wanted you could easily buy it with FREE coins it gave you in nearly every lootbox that you also earned after every few games, and also the more you played, the more lootboxes you got, and the more lootboxes you got the more coins you earned for duplicates, and the more coins the more skins you could purchase directly
@benrobinson1348
@benrobinson1348 4 күн бұрын
Imagine they announce they’re returning to developing the pve 💀💀
@Saxtalk.
@Saxtalk. 4 күн бұрын
That won't make money for the time spent developing it. That's why they canceled.
@mariustan9275
@mariustan9275 4 күн бұрын
Nobody wil believed them unless it comes out
@electrobob992
@electrobob992 4 күн бұрын
@@Saxtalk. Despite the fact they could just do what TF2 does, add a paid ticket requirement but giving the player RANDOM rewards. Not lootboxes, but the appeal would exist as random drops.
@Setogayamari
@Setogayamari 4 күн бұрын
@@electrobob992 that would be worse, they way TF2 does events is prob the worst in any game ive seen. Its all pay to play. i wanted to try mvm and had to buy a ticket just to play. I got a lootbox but had to buy keys to open them???? i had to pay money to use chat/social features because my account is new???? I understand its for "security" but theres still a hacker in every damn game i play so its essentially just greed, greed, and alot more greed
@BrandonsGamingVault
@BrandonsGamingVault 4 күн бұрын
They will call it Overwatch 3 😂😂
@XhavokstarX
@XhavokstarX 4 күн бұрын
Marvel Rivals is definitely a competitor to OW, but you’re right it isn’t an OW killer. My money is on Blizzard being the OW killer.
@shawngorski9714
@shawngorski9714 4 күн бұрын
Yep marvel rivals just handed them the gun 😂
@COURIER169
@COURIER169 3 күн бұрын
ow2 will never die, simple as that. because blizzard did everything wrong in ow2. made the shop more greedy, lied to their playerbase about everything, and never listens to feedback. the ow2 playerbase will never quit this game because they are addicted.
@mcdonaldz-sprite2353
@mcdonaldz-sprite2353 3 күн бұрын
@@COURIER169yea but you got think what competition did they have before rivals ? Literally nothing was close to the feeling and gameplay loop of overwatch. So no matter how dog shit the game was people still played. I think Rivals will be different then other said “ OW killers” because it’s genuine competition. It’s a game that’s very similar that many OW players can easily swap to and enjoy.
@kenzagi1258
@kenzagi1258 3 күн бұрын
I havent touched OW2 ever since Marvel Rivals came out and i assume a lot of people too. And the amount of people immediately buying skins that come out in OW moving to competitor's game probably has them freaked out.
@COURIER169
@COURIER169 3 күн бұрын
@@mcdonaldz-sprite2353 except, overwatch 2 still has like 80K PLAYERS while marvel rivals is hitting peak. there are so many people playing overwatch while marvel rivals is right there. those 80k arent leaving anytime soon
@Eyevou
@Eyevou 4 күн бұрын
A couple free skins aren't going to make me come back. Not unless they do a complete overhaul of the reward experience. If you can't get decent rewards from playing the game then it's not worth doing.
@electrobob992
@electrobob992 4 күн бұрын
Yeah we need permanent changes. Like Repeatable quests that give random rewards, with a higher odd for coins of various amounts.
@Dafreshcut
@Dafreshcut 4 күн бұрын
Broski, this is BLIZZARD we're talking about 😂 It's like the closest we have to Riot Games in terms of greed and predatory behavior. If they truly cared for OW fans, they would have taken their time, thought of a good reward system and give players PvE back, not 2 free skins...
@Eyevou
@Eyevou 4 күн бұрын
@@Dafreshcut Can't wait for the $150 skin.
@nerdstorma8427
@nerdstorma8427 3 күн бұрын
What you're not happy with sprays and icons? Blizzard is so lazy and scummy, it's pathetic 😂
@kultasusi1466
@kultasusi1466 3 күн бұрын
I would actually enjoy Overwatch if I could play old battle passes
@Mamaleee123
@Mamaleee123 4 күн бұрын
Marvel Rivals is the best thing happened to Overwatch. In a competition, consumers are the winners.
@gamerbeast3616
@gamerbeast3616 4 күн бұрын
rivals is garbage they dont need to be afraid
@the_dripgoku
@the_dripgoku 4 күн бұрын
​@@gamerbeast3616 player counts say otherwise
@jacobejackson183
@jacobejackson183 4 күн бұрын
@@gamerbeast3616 Yet they are, that should tell you something
@neoramaredzone8544
@neoramaredzone8544 4 күн бұрын
@@gamerbeast3616yeah they do because it’s fun you don’t just have to be a hater because your a fanboy.
@billbob2899
@billbob2899 4 күн бұрын
​@gamerbeast3616 please tell us how great the flavor is cause you seem to enjoy swallowing blizzards load 🙄
@sombramemer1230
@sombramemer1230 4 күн бұрын
Good they deserve to be in fear with how crappy they treated this game when they mutilated the game.
@BETAsin
@BETAsin 2 күн бұрын
i hear this a lot, but what about it is bad? 5v5? battle pass?
@exodus_ow
@exodus_ow 4 күн бұрын
The only thing Blizzard cares about is money. So they’re definitely in “panic mode”
@IronMan-jj2fd
@IronMan-jj2fd 4 күн бұрын
They'll need to do more than just free legendary skins I'm afraid 💀
@Bad3abdul
@Bad3abdul 4 күн бұрын
​@@IronMan-jj2fdok iron man 😂
@Saxtalk.
@Saxtalk. 4 күн бұрын
It's a free game, what do you expect. Imagine working for free.
@jcartist5881
@jcartist5881 4 күн бұрын
@@Saxtalk. imagine being too fixated on skin for the pretties and pro play and money
@DrDemolition
@DrDemolition 4 күн бұрын
@@Saxtalk. doesn't mean everything has to be paid and that you don't get a single reward after every game you play besides the shitass battle pass, stop defending this dog company, they deserve more hate than they get
@silverfang5824
@silverfang5824 4 күн бұрын
Just moved to Marvel. So far I am loving it
@nurikkulanbaev3628
@nurikkulanbaev3628 4 күн бұрын
Did they optimize it yet? It makes my eyes bleed.
@victorlima7441
@victorlima7441 4 күн бұрын
​@@nurikkulanbaev3628 you mean the colors in game? Some games gives me mad pain in the eyes while playing too
@cjl12897
@cjl12897 4 күн бұрын
@@nurikkulanbaev3628 its not that bad cry
@drakeklingforth8560
@drakeklingforth8560 4 күн бұрын
@@nurikkulanbaev3628it’s way better.
@tl275
@tl275 4 күн бұрын
@@nurikkulanbaev3628 nope, just afew QoL changes so far but nothing major
@liegegaia8376
@liegegaia8376 4 күн бұрын
wholeheartedly agree that this is a panic response to marvel rivals' success - but it's extremely funny to imagine that the blizzard higher ups just got visited by the ghosts of christmas past present and future in their sleep
@theliedetector2199
@theliedetector2199 4 күн бұрын
I can imagine that what's left of the player base is Tiny Tim in this situation.
@berkalikalila
@berkalikalila 4 күн бұрын
Even though OW community would say, its not panic response. The TRAILER for S14 showed widow skin supposed to be shop skin lol. Not only that, the twitch drop for overwatch are now only 4 hours instead of TEN or more hours Entire OW biggest streamers also all moved to Rivals 😂😂
@Bad3abdul
@Bad3abdul 4 күн бұрын
​@@berkalikalilaby that you mean only flats Soo stop exaggerating
@berkalikalila
@berkalikalila 4 күн бұрын
@@Bad3abdul LMAO, RIVALS now reveal all their streamer and its mostly ex overwatch player. Bogur, ML7, Flats, necros, emongg
@Bad3abdul
@Bad3abdul 4 күн бұрын
@@berkalikalila ooh yh bogur too
@Monsterpie-qc3dc
@Monsterpie-qc3dc 4 күн бұрын
Nobody gonna mention that Kiriko's bundle is the same price as all the other avatar bundles even though she's only an epic skin?
@hitmonkey4726
@hitmonkey4726 3 күн бұрын
Orissa bundle also cost the same when it got way less item than others.
@RemedieX
@RemedieX 3 күн бұрын
No one's mentioned Kiriko got the MOST content for the Avatar collab either, for the bundle + event. It's crazy
@shmooks6267
@shmooks6267 3 күн бұрын
@@RemedieX Kiriko and Mercy get mega babied I am not shocked at all
@theoneperson3996
@theoneperson3996 4 күн бұрын
What cancelling PvE and having no real competition does to a game. Edit: about Christmas skins interesingly Fortnite too relases really high quality skins for free this season
@logangurt2667
@logangurt2667 4 күн бұрын
" I beg you play our game
@ElixoYT
@ElixoYT 4 күн бұрын
I predict that in the future they will "bring back Archives" and start adding a new mission every season to "bring back PvE" because of the panic mode (and make them ALL FREE like Archives and permanently available to everyone). Missions ranging from true Archives (past of Overwatch era) to what would be considered as story missions (present "reassembled" Overwatch erra)
@Beanz_EatsBeanz
@Beanz_EatsBeanz 4 күн бұрын
By high quality u mean ultra high quality skibidi toilet skins?
@theoneperson3996
@theoneperson3996 4 күн бұрын
@Beanz_EatsBeanz For love all Holy luckily not.
@GamingChair420
@GamingChair420 4 күн бұрын
@@ElixoYT if they do that would huge because you cannot 100% overwatch without the archives coming back and I basically accepted this but MR is coming in clutch and getting my hopes up
@Lupasan
@Lupasan 3 күн бұрын
They are lame af for doing this NOW. Yall should not be celebrating this. They are insulting you
@yoshiiscool2002
@yoshiiscool2002 4 күн бұрын
As nice as the OW2 skins are, ive never been interested in buying them, but im more inclined to think about buying a skin in Rivals, and i think i know the reason why… In Rivals, you can ACTUALLY see the skin itself since the game is played in a third person view.
@ervinaspetrauskas1716
@ervinaspetrauskas1716 4 күн бұрын
I had interest in buying Reins Optimus skin but i lost so much trust in blizzard i'd rather skip it. Actually MR is the game i most likely be playing in between break from singleplay games. Even if these actually new skins are free i have no reason to bother going back to play ow
@yoshiiscool2002
@yoshiiscool2002 4 күн бұрын
@ same for me. I dropped OW prior to the pandemic and started playing FFXIV as my main game, and ive been playing Rivals and Helldivers in between.
@ervinaspetrauskas1716
@ervinaspetrauskas1716 4 күн бұрын
@@yoshiiscool2002 most of my hours went to bg3 over 400h. Other than that it was a ton of other games that i haven't finished or it was rougue likes
@corinna-s2h
@corinna-s2h 4 күн бұрын
Honestly buy the battle pass 5 dollars for season zero is good
@gabezepeda5010
@gabezepeda5010 4 күн бұрын
@@yoshiiscool2002I used to mod that game and work for Gil late at night. Had a large plot in shiro and got bored.
@eldenvedetta635
@eldenvedetta635 4 күн бұрын
You're the ONLY person I have seen even cover the literal evidence of Overwatch making changes because of Marvel Rivals. Sub !
@TooMuch_Luffy
@TooMuch_Luffy 4 күн бұрын
6 Free skins? This is the first Christmas event that we've got something like this. Every other event has been souvenirs, sprays, titles, and player banners(all those useless ass cosmetics so they can avoid giving out free skins). The first event to give free skins since ow2 released lol.
@RacingSnails64
@RacingSnails64 4 күн бұрын
They give away a lot of free skins actually. There was that "Winter Fair" event and they even gave away 3 great legendary skins during the 2024 Anniversary for Ram, Bap, and Soldier.
@berkalikalila
@berkalikalila 4 күн бұрын
​@@RacingSnails64 winter fair was trash. They give very-lazily-made legendary skin that either recolor OR a casual legendary skin that they didnt bother to change the weapon design
@IronMan-jj2fd
@IronMan-jj2fd 4 күн бұрын
The last collab which had free skin was Cowboy Bebop 💀, they just abruptly stopped giving free skin reward afterwards The last seasonal event mode which had a free skin was way back in S10 mirrorwatch, which gave us OR UNIT Orisa legendary skin, which was a good one! And then again the abrupt stop happened for some reason!
@yourcomradepal978
@yourcomradepal978 4 күн бұрын
@@RacingSnails64yeah they gave those three because they weren’t bought and realized “oh shit people are upset that we aren’t doing no anything for the anniversary throw darts at a board of skins and put those for free And as for the winter event last year,you had to PAY to get the battle pass for it,if you were a free player the most you’d get was a mid “legendary” skin for mcree or bap
@mariustan9275
@mariustan9275 4 күн бұрын
​@@IronMan-jj2fdYeah the just wanted to paywall everything
@punkypony5165
@punkypony5165 4 күн бұрын
@0:36 "A long running major competitor for Overwatch". Its not much a "competition". Marvel Rivals is leaving Overwatch in the dust.
@JORDANBFILMZ
@JORDANBFILMZ 21 сағат бұрын
Ya I don’t know why this guy is still glazing overwatch
@MrZepedacarlos73
@MrZepedacarlos73 4 күн бұрын
Honestly, it's a good thing cause marvel rivals is a good competitor for overwatch, not saying one is better than the other, but I'm sure both games can co-exist and both would be good competitors
@timothyboddie2724
@timothyboddie2724 4 күн бұрын
I pray that would be the case but Blizzard really needs to step up their A game.
@wavemoon
@wavemoon 4 күн бұрын
I mean they both mostly reward you for playing 2-3 games a day. So I have found that I can just play Overwatch and Marvel Rival dailies easily in a single day.
@rathgrantz5679
@rathgrantz5679 4 күн бұрын
Nah Rivals is faster and more engaging to watch, but OW will probably just persist like a zombie
@Anarchbee
@Anarchbee 4 күн бұрын
For real! Ow will likely step up their game in response to rivals which will in turn have rivals step up their game likely, and repeat. Competition is extremely good for both games as it’ll likely improve the quality of the game so they can keep their player bases!
@leeroy1961
@leeroy1961 4 күн бұрын
Like LoL and DOTA. Been coexisting for years now with 0 drama between them.
@mrs.skepticism
@mrs.skepticism 4 күн бұрын
Didn't touch OW once since marvel came out...and I don't miss it 😂😅
@scorpioshadow
@scorpioshadow 4 күн бұрын
I do hope this is A REAL change for Overwatch 2 and let’s hope they keep their words this time
@BuffNesquikBunny
@BuffNesquikBunny 4 күн бұрын
Not to be rude, but if you think this “good will” w skins will last more than a single season, u are either new or delusional.
@GamingChair420
@GamingChair420 4 күн бұрын
i hate to say it but if MR messes up and loses the community OW will just go back to being a deadbeat dad and treat MR like paladins
@MeowLesty
@MeowLesty 4 күн бұрын
They will keep it as long as Marvel Rivals is an actual competitor then we back to nickel and diming your playerbase IF they come back. IF.
@gabezepeda5010
@gabezepeda5010 4 күн бұрын
Nah, too late. As a diamond 1 OW player, the balancing is the MAIN reason I’m taking a break from OW, followed by skin quality/prices. Skins in Rivals are gorgeous for every last character & the balance team has said they’ll avoid nerfs as much as possible. They ACTUALLY HAVE A VISION FOR BALANCE????? take my money 💰
@shinnou1
@shinnou1 4 күн бұрын
Of course it's not a real change, these things cannot happen without a culture change in the operating company and Microsoft has enough expendable income to drag this out into eternity without backing off.
@WanderOtaku101
@WanderOtaku101 4 күн бұрын
Worth noting; the widowmaker skin was 100% NEVER meant to be free! It was advertised as a SHOP skin along with sombra and juno in the season 14 trailer at 1:47. So yeah, they’re definitely desperate rn and it’s amazing to see! Too bad the dev team still seems just as brain dead cus holy shit the balance patch was a nothing burger
@cammerdog4069
@cammerdog4069 4 күн бұрын
This video made me realize that I had fallen out of love with overwatch. It really feels like a toxic relationship where im being treated terribly but stick around because of familiarity and the bare minimum amount of attention. Marvel rivals though is so different. It’s got familiar characters so it isn’t completely foreign to me, it’s got skins you can actually see that they know they’re fan base would love, it’s got easy to learn heroes with high skill ceilings so it’s fun to play at all skill levels, a battlepass system that allows you to come back and complete them even after a season ends, and they have amazing potential (one that I don’t see in overwatch anymore). I do hope this lights a fire under overwatch so they start actually listening to the community and GENUINELY improving the game, sticking to promises. But as of right now, I have been let down far too many times by overwatch since really the release of echo. That was almost five years ago, and still i waited for them to do better. But after content droughts, pre selling a PvE mode that never got released, releasing a watered down (one time only apparently) PvE event that was similar to other PvE events in the past yet charging for it, blizzard scandals, and frankly just being bored of the same thing over and over, I think it’s time for me to be done with overwatch. At least until they can find some way to make the game better, but I doubt it, ive gotten my hopes up too many time for that game
@spiderpro0961
@spiderpro0961 4 күн бұрын
holy shit bro every time you can all you do is just glaze overwatch 😭
@JORDANBFILMZ
@JORDANBFILMZ 21 сағат бұрын
Ikr😭 “I prefer overwstch gameplay” “It’s a small competitor” Bro is stuck in a toxic relationship with overwatch
@Reimu_Kirisame
@Reimu_Kirisame 4 күн бұрын
There's nothing better than competition to make a company more consumer friendly. I wish we had more of that in today's gaming market. Also, the Kiriko bundle still costs as much as a legendary skin bundle. Make sure to buy the Kiriko skin seperately for 1000 coins, if you happen to want it instead of the expensive 2600 bundle.
@tony2169
@tony2169 3 күн бұрын
I like how marvel rivals doesn't punish you for using controller on p.c.
@Spiderplase
@Spiderplase 4 күн бұрын
You already know when a game is in panic mode they are going to be extremely generous as a way to keep its players hooked on free rewards
@KelseyJonesrunescape
@KelseyJonesrunescape Күн бұрын
Blizzard has been killing Overwatch. Not marvel rivals
@BlackZynfyndel
@BlackZynfyndel 4 күн бұрын
Kinda odd they did this when Rivals dropped their free holiday event and Valo has their free EOY pass. Just sucks they’re more so doing this as a reaction because I’ve already stopped playing.
@berkalikalila
@berkalikalila 4 күн бұрын
I read the S14 Blog post and nothing mention this sudden EOY extra reward. After 3-4 seasons waiting for nothing, i just assume there'd be nothing else for this EOY season I bet they gonna run 6v6, give cheap reward such as spray and icon and thats it.
@BlackZynfyndel
@BlackZynfyndel 4 күн бұрын
@ and look, I’m happy it’s making them give things to the people on the community still playing. I wish it would’ve happened while I was still in to the game, but long as some of the fans benefit I’m happy.
@zadimusblack1848
@zadimusblack1848 4 күн бұрын
Saying overwatch is more fun than rivals at the moment is like saying repeatedly kicking the corner of your coffee table is more fun than smashing glass and ceramic with a baseball bat.
@louisdabest3055
@louisdabest3055 4 күн бұрын
Blizzard pays him to make content, what do you expect him to say.
@rfewer
@rfewer 4 күн бұрын
Rivals glaze is insane. I have been playing lots of both recently and i really appreciate rivals, but I still prefer OW and have more fun as it is more competitively balanced and polished. Maybe if I was a bigger fan of the Marvel franchise than I would have a greater appreciation. Also the FPS drops and lack of optimization are very annoying
@berniechoy5482
@berniechoy5482 4 күн бұрын
Imo, I like the 6 v 6 OW and Marvel Rivals equally. However, I like Rivals comp better than OW comp. That being said, the OW community is less toxic than the Rivals community
@ikira_ttv
@ikira_ttv 3 күн бұрын
@@rfewer marvel rivals is polished enough. But yeah it's a little bit unbalanced but that's because it just released and overwatch released 2016. So they had enough time to balance the game lol
@rfewer
@rfewer 2 күн бұрын
@@ikira_ttv ow was more polished on release in 2016 then rivals is today
@taqutiosc6046
@taqutiosc6046 4 күн бұрын
Rivals is the game that broke me away from OW. Blizzard just insults its players time after time. I miss OW but I’m not enjoying it when I play so I just go back to Rivals.
@luiscnchl
@luiscnchl 4 күн бұрын
Same. I’ve been playing ow every day since day one. Even during the heavy drought. I’ve played OW like 2 hours since rivals came out
@hbshadow8981
@hbshadow8981 4 күн бұрын
Same I played 3 games yesterday of 6v6 and went back to rivals for the rest of the day
@rip7515
@rip7515 4 күн бұрын
​@@hbshadow8981same, except I played 2 games, realized I hate the balancing and went back to rivals
@hbshadow8981
@hbshadow8981 4 күн бұрын
@ first 2 for me were bearable 3rd game i watched both tanks, both dps and 1 support swap countless times to try to get value that game while my team relatively stayed the same
@McQuackeen
@McQuackeen 4 күн бұрын
@@luiscnchl same wth, i play one game in ow and then switch to marvel rivals everytime.
@FoxClanXP
@FoxClanXP 2 күн бұрын
I don’t think it’s a “competitor” I think it’s a replacement
@TINTEKO
@TINTEKO 4 күн бұрын
Good, I hope they panic more and make even more changes. Specifically in prices.
@Truxyric
@Truxyric 4 күн бұрын
We all know they're not doing this out of the goodness of their hearts, we know the real blizzard and how they treat their player base. From false promises to the cancellation of PvE to the predatory monetization system. I've had it with blizzard for a long time and Rivals is the game I needed.
@PestEssence
@PestEssence Күн бұрын
@@Truxyric There is no company that give you free stuff from their hearts. Companies do it because you will like them, so you spend more money.
@CC-il7dg
@CC-il7dg 4 күн бұрын
Not enough to get us to take a break from Rivals and reinstall OW2. Need more!
@Barrnickle
@Barrnickle 4 күн бұрын
I can say that so far, 6v6 has definitely been more fun than 5v5, straight up. My problem is I'm tired of waiting, it feels like everything with OW moves in slow motion, promises made seasons before they will be realized. 6v6 is being treated as an "experimental" LTM, which means it has an end date, then what? How long after the test run until we just get 6v6 back for good? I think Blizzard underestimated Rivals upon its launch, and only months before its release did they finally start budging on the 6v6 conundrum. Thing is Rivals is already here and it's kicking ass, quite frankly Blizzard need to drop 5v5 and commit to 6v6, the quicker the better. OW's identity crisis is at an all time high, is it a purely competitive game or casual, is it 5v5 or 6v6? For me I'm done settling for something I feel could and SHOULD be so much more fun, Marvel Rivals currently knows what kind of game it is and until OW figures out what it is, I just don't see much point in playing it anymore.
@ervinaspetrauskas1716
@ervinaspetrauskas1716 4 күн бұрын
I have a same problem with ow. A need to wait for them to make some progress and in around 6 months maybe they move an inch in the direction i want them to.
@berkalikalila
@berkalikalila 4 күн бұрын
YES. The last 3-4 seasons were so bleak so i believed that they were preparing for S14, which is the season where Rivals got released But nope! They only sold Nostalgia! The cosmetics, the game mode arent getting better (im fkn casual so idk about balance but i heard pros are complaining about balance too). So i say bye bye blizzard!
@gabezepeda5010
@gabezepeda5010 4 күн бұрын
Tired of the OW balancing team randomly super buffing/nerfing things for 0 reason other than to shake things up.
@Ahphla
@Ahphla 4 күн бұрын
​@@gabezepeda5010fr the game already has another power creep on the way with sustainability they keep buffing shit like orisa and mauga
@TSGC16
@TSGC16 4 күн бұрын
They were too late with the 6v6 test. Sad truth.
@tgs5725
@tgs5725 4 күн бұрын
Yeah I left OW for Rivals. 6v6 is simply better.
@Cali899
@Cali899 4 күн бұрын
Not just that, there was very questionable balance changes for the 6v6 experiment i heavily disagree with, like for my poor boi rein having 1 fire strike again plus losing 50 percent charge steering.
@Truxyric
@Truxyric 4 күн бұрын
I tried the OW2 6V6 test only to be greeted with toxic team mates and throwers, then I returned to Rivals.
@berkalikalila
@berkalikalila 4 күн бұрын
Im begging for 6v6 but OW REALLY had to put it on second week of the season, literally making OW CC and OW fanbase get to try Rivals themselves Had overwatch release 6v6 at the start of S14, They might lost less players
@berkalikalila
@berkalikalila 4 күн бұрын
​@@Cali899YES and ROADHOG GET REVERTED BACK LIKE WTF ARE YOU DOING DEVS. The entire 2023-2024 updates are just dev reworking something then reverting it back. I cant with this game anymore 😂😂😂
@tony2169
@tony2169 3 күн бұрын
I have not played overwatch since marvel rivals came out
@GoldenGo_OSe
@GoldenGo_OSe 4 күн бұрын
I have played Overwatch pretty much every day since 2016. Haven't played a single game since Marvel Rivals launched.
@Thekingisback554
@Thekingisback554 4 күн бұрын
Overwatch is old news tbh marvel rivals is what overwatch isn’t . Marvel is way more fun and can actually have fun team ups for me it’s “bye bye overwatch “
@fugitive6549
@fugitive6549 2 күн бұрын
Honeymoon phase.
@silverlilly9178
@silverlilly9178 4 күн бұрын
competition is always good for consumers so its good for us that blizzard is in panic mode trying to win back players
@Cyberbro665
@Cyberbro665 4 күн бұрын
This is why companies should never have a monopoly
@Truxyric
@Truxyric 4 күн бұрын
Mind you that last Christmas event most of the skins were locked behind a 5$ paywall. Very blizzard.
@berkalikalila
@berkalikalila 4 күн бұрын
Oh it was even worse Even IF you did buy 5$ paywall, you still not able to get all the skins You need to drop another 20$ and the currency they gave you are more than what needed to get all skins in Winter fair.
@edg2006
@edg2006 4 күн бұрын
I did get the Widowmaker skin in the winter fair in 2023 only bc that I didn't get her a skin and thought it would be great to sacrifice my f2p coins I worked for it. Now you think about it, they should of let me have all of the skins since I wasted fairly 400-500 premium coins for crappy name cards, icons, and only one legendary skin with a Cassidy intro, bc if I wanted to, I could've grabbed a bp with half that coins and get more out of it, and that's sad. Edit:to also add, they were releasing formal outfits for bap, tracer, mercy, etc. (surprisingly no kiriko in it at that time)
@kysell
@kysell 2 күн бұрын
i forgot about this 😭😭
@IvoryHourglass
@IvoryHourglass 10 сағат бұрын
Blizzard will always treat players badly. Thank goodness we have someone to pull back
@crumblyburgers
@crumblyburgers 4 күн бұрын
I was enjoying rivals. But 6v6 QP is probably the most fun I've had in OW in a long time.
@dillonbooker7222
@dillonbooker7222 4 күн бұрын
@crumblyburgers yea I'm surprised they put that much balance time into it. It's so fun with the new tank combos. Very balanced since one tank can make up for the others weaknesses and I have had queue time issues.
@crumblyburgers
@crumblyburgers 4 күн бұрын
@dillonbooker7222 I was queuing flex and only got tank once the other night. Super surprised. I thought I'd dislike 6v6 but it felt like you could breathe and as a support you didn't have to deal with their tank running past yours and wrecking you constantly. Hoping for a comp version soon
@dillonbooker7222
@dillonbooker7222 4 күн бұрын
@@crumblyburgers yuuup. The only way I come back is for 6v6 comp 2-2-2
@crumblyburgers
@crumblyburgers 4 күн бұрын
@dillonbooker7222 absolutely. If it's not 2-2-2, it's not going to work.
@berkalikalila
@berkalikalila 4 күн бұрын
We all know 5v5 was a mistake and they just running away from properly fixing 6v6 Like, VAINGLORY did the same by adding 5v5 on top of their 3v3 and their game balance crumbles😂😂😂
@Xyoni_htklv
@Xyoni_htklv 2 күн бұрын
this is why. monopoly over a game or anything is not good. there need to be competition
@jaybrielz
@jaybrielz 4 күн бұрын
As somebody who plays both games, I’m really happy to hear this lol. Competition will make OW a better game
@aswd1979
@aswd1979 22 сағат бұрын
I love how 5 skins are consider generous. That's how you know it's bad.
@wavemoon
@wavemoon 4 күн бұрын
Blizzard really has found the christmas spirit.
@Isotoma_110
@Isotoma_110 Күн бұрын
Rivals should keep their foot on Blizzard's neck and never let up. None of this would have happened if it wasn't for Marvel Rivals.
@vraalucs1843
@vraalucs1843 4 күн бұрын
I think it has something to do with their social medias!! Because every picture or video they have released recently has mostly had comments about Marvel rivals and i think Blizzard did some research for noticing this change of behaviour of the community and of course the numbers
@markkump9344
@markkump9344 4 күн бұрын
Man I would say that 9/10 posts/vids from playoverwatch's channel are filled with negative comments about pve, lack of skins, balance issues and now leaving OW2 to play MR.
@berkalikalila
@berkalikalila 4 күн бұрын
​@@markkump9344Oh actually every social media and youtube are always negative except twitter and probably reddit. Its just recently with rivals release, people now started being negative on twitter too, which is gatekeeped by OW most loyal whiteknight Now even the whiteknight are tired with OW BS
@lucifermorningstar8387
@lucifermorningstar8387 4 күн бұрын
They also have the lowest numbers of steam in the past few weeks. Guess what blizzard cares about? The numbers!
@phillipgamer2222
@phillipgamer2222 Күн бұрын
I think they're finally realizing they can't just deliver overpriced slop now that they have an actual competitor who's delivering more for less
@TM4de
@TM4de 4 күн бұрын
If they want to bring the ppayers back do 3 things: 1 GIVE OUT COMPLIMENTARY GIFTS 2 PVE 3 LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY Btw WHY DID THEY HAVE TO WAIT FIR THE GAME'S DEATH TO BE KIND?! Edit: yall need to chill the f out
@anthonyfarias5076
@anthonyfarias5076 4 күн бұрын
Not even listen to the community, just be consistent. Do they want the dps passive to be high or low? Do they want orisa to be good or bad? They just change their minds 50 times a second.
@BlazeD_7
@BlazeD_7 4 күн бұрын
1. It seems they are doing this 2. Hard disagree 3. They are
@zzoomxd
@zzoomxd 4 күн бұрын
Point 1 is random, yall addicted to cosmetics, game will be the same no matter what shi u wear Point 2 true, they trolled everyone for sure, but hey dont be stuck on that for no reasons like jus go next Point 3 yeah ran out of arguments duh Rivals and ow are the same but one is less competitive/more casual. Its just the fact that its new that we enjoy it. Only few ppl can point out the issues of ow sad that everyone think the same cuz lazy to build their own opinion
@rip7515
@rip7515 4 күн бұрын
​@@BlazeD_7ok buddy lmao If they listened to the community, they'd have reworked Mauga by now. If they listened to the community, Venture would have more than 2 skins; Ram would have more skins and a mythic; Kiriko and Mercy would have less skins; yada yada yada. The only real "complimentary" skins are Twitch skins. And not everyone watches Twitch. These are the first mass free skins in *an event* maybe ever in OW2's history. Even in the last Christmas event, without buying the event pass, you could only get 1 free skin. You're riding Blizzard too hard buddy. Hope you're wearing protection, I heard they don't pay child support either.
@UnbannedItsLA
@UnbannedItsLA 4 күн бұрын
Alot of players came after PVE. Yall ow1 players need to let PVE go
@kailet1997
@kailet1997 20 сағат бұрын
Honestly, good. That's why fair competition should exist.Same reason Sims went down the drain, no real competitor for life sims. Hopefully OW can get out of the hellhole and start caring abt their playerbase with a real threat to their now dead monopoly
@proc8082
@proc8082 4 күн бұрын
THANK YOU so much for explaining the difference between Epic and Legendary skins!!! I always wondered what differentiated the two.
@Truxyric
@Truxyric 4 күн бұрын
LMAO. No he made a good point actually.
@Lotuss808
@Lotuss808 4 күн бұрын
Nah the clip at 11:54 is the reason why overwatch died
@pcbangbros8350
@pcbangbros8350 4 күн бұрын
been in panic mode since ow2 dropped
@Truxyric
@Truxyric 4 күн бұрын
"We still want to create the game everyone wants" -Aaron Keller
@SpectralElysium
@SpectralElysium 4 күн бұрын
@@Truxyric At this point they should try creating a game that people don't hate. Look at their steam ratings, 22%, mostly negative. Now look at Rivals, 80%, very positive. Blizzard is too little too late with their sudden free skins 'generosity' and talking about changes. The ship has sailed.
@god204
@god204 Күн бұрын
Marvel rivals isn’t killing overwatch Overwatch is killing Overwatch and it has always been like that
@jameoww
@jameoww 4 күн бұрын
Improvements to OW make me happy, but I'm not suffering through 9 OW matches for 3 free skins for characters I don't play. I'm sticking to Rivals, where I'm actually having fun, for now. I've already spent more in Rivals than I ever have in OW2 because it was actually worth the price. I do hope OW becomes a good game again and I'll be happy to play again when it is. The Avatar collab stuff is really good tho. 10/10
@dontgetmarried
@dontgetmarried 3 күн бұрын
With free-to-play games I'm much more comfortable with paying for battle passes and skins, etc. I'll usually cap it at the price of a full game ($40-$60) which is usually way more than I need as I only buy visuals I like lmao 🤣
@najee_salazar
@najee_salazar 21 сағат бұрын
i saw this coming too. Ive been playing Marvel Rivals just to make Blizzard sweat a little. I still love Overwatch, so I'm glad the competition is making them rethink player treatment
@kamixakadio2441
@kamixakadio2441 4 күн бұрын
Good. The more they panic, the harder they'll try to make the game better, which will only benefit us. Competition is important. In the face of competition in the same genre for a game, you can either fold and give up, or improve the game. There is no middle ground here.
@bagnerh6123
@bagnerh6123 4 күн бұрын
Marvel rival is gonna be better than OW
@ItsMeBabyDee
@ItsMeBabyDee 4 күн бұрын
LOL!!!! The "Hmmm" at 2:43 is fucking hilarious😂😂
@Truxyric
@Truxyric 4 күн бұрын
🤔
@superkamideku3097
@superkamideku3097 3 күн бұрын
Overwatch sucks dude, marvel rivals for the win!!!
@ItsMeBabyDee
@ItsMeBabyDee 3 күн бұрын
@@superkamideku3097 Oh god, here come the "mArVels BeTtEr" people
@Sub-Sownik
@Sub-Sownik 3 күн бұрын
It doesn't matter how many skins/weapons/props or more they add to the game, im not comming back to Overwatch 2, it failed, cured my addiction and most of all: it failed it's player base by not caring, the only thing Blizzard cares about is money.
@ReinMixTape
@ReinMixTape 2 күн бұрын
5v5 and taking away loot boxes (free and paid ones) ruined it. OW really only offered cosmetics as a way to show off your account progress/age, but you don't even get to properly see your fancy skins while playing. And ultimately nerfing skin acquisition ruined their golden goose which was people playing for the only reward (cosmetics.) The prices they have for skins and how low effort many of them are now... it's silly.
@jasongrundy1717
@jasongrundy1717 4 күн бұрын
Can't bring myself to care about dressing up my virtual barbie.
@copiagueeagle
@copiagueeagle 4 күн бұрын
Too bad that's all overwatch offers in terms of content 99% of the time, lol.
@Kiernimbus
@Kiernimbus 4 күн бұрын
@@copiagueeagle Sorry for turning your comment into a soapbox, but I've been saying this to my friends for 2 years. Skins ARE the only content OW offers at this point, which is why it frustrates me to all hell that characters like Venture are just getting shafted repeatedly while Mercy, Kiriko, and Rein all get skins season after season. Like, they suck at doing the ONLY new thing they offer! Had to get that off my chest.
@ReinMixTape
@ReinMixTape 2 күн бұрын
@@copiagueeagle Yeah and you don't get to see them in game fully until your character has been killed or if it's play of the game and you happen to be in it.
@professionalranter4402
@professionalranter4402 23 сағат бұрын
I’d say yes Free skins feels like a start but I think something that could definitely show them in panic mode is that they decide to change monetization to something similar to Marvel Rivals or changes to the battle pass to make it similar to Marvel Rivals Honestly there’s a lot of stuff that could showcase them to be in panic mode but the skins definitely gives that feeling Biggest thing they could do in this panic mode is doing stuff with their lore finally
@nicpatjones3584
@nicpatjones3584 4 күн бұрын
Hear me out in a years time overwatch will be in its grave
@phyzarel1845
@phyzarel1845 2 күн бұрын
Time to play OW for a single day before going back to Marvel
@Navio_1138
@Navio_1138 4 күн бұрын
Having competitors in any market means you push each other to do better. Honestly, I hope both games/player bases can benefit from it.
@Scrap_
@Scrap_ 2 күн бұрын
I don't care if they release a free 1k skin for Overwatch, Blizzard fucked up years ago and are only addressing it now let them burn down it's their own fault lmao.
@siennaplayz3143
@siennaplayz3143 4 күн бұрын
Yk what’s even crazier. Marvel has 20m players already and they don’t even support ps4… imagine how much MORE players there’d be if they expanded on playable consoles.
@siennaplayz3143
@siennaplayz3143 4 күн бұрын
Ik so many people who can’t play marvel cuz they don’t own a ps5 and they’re not pc players so they don’t get to experience this fun game
@STENKlaide
@STENKlaide 4 күн бұрын
PS4 will explode from Dr. Strange portal in match lol
@winter-ok1mj
@winter-ok1mj 4 күн бұрын
Ok no hate I Checked both games player count it's basically the same like overwatch is 1 Million to 2 million usually and marvel rivals is like 2 million players I feel like both games are good honestly since they almost have the same player count
@vahki
@vahki 2 күн бұрын
Crazy how much OW players are coping rn with rivals
@kuronoagone4099
@kuronoagone4099 4 күн бұрын
Free Skins......thats their answer....skins...just how dumb they think we are.
@shawngorski9714
@shawngorski9714 4 күн бұрын
Dumb enough that they added mauga and thought we would like it lol
@realmrevolution8846
@realmrevolution8846 3 күн бұрын
With no PVE, skins are literally the only thing OW has left.
@Acatinabox
@Acatinabox 22 сағат бұрын
4:22 they lost their good will with the release of OW2
@finnedjoker
@finnedjoker 21 сағат бұрын
The panic mode blizzard is in is like a teacher being watched by the principal to see if they are good teachers, bastards unless something bad is about to happen to them and i hate it, overwatch is nothing but an empty promise game that needs a wake up call ASAP
@victoriastone5627
@victoriastone5627 4 күн бұрын
Skins will not be enough to bring back their old player base. Even watching this gameplay in the video it’s just so boring compared to marvel rivals. I think it is the nail in the coffin. Marvel rivals has so much more to offer.
@DMPLAYER1000
@DMPLAYER1000 Күн бұрын
I don't think Overwatch will fall off but they need to make a lot of good long term decisions in order to win back trust. They've broken player trust over and over again over the years and they need to course correct. Ultimately I'm one of those people that felt slighted by them and will stick with Marvel Rivals for the forseeable future, but I'm willing to give them a chance in a year or two if they truly change for the better
@michaelpellegrini4756
@michaelpellegrini4756 4 күн бұрын
It’s definitely in response to Marvel Rivals
@SmutGrrl
@SmutGrrl Күн бұрын
Competition is good! Heck yeah...I hope it continues to make them better for us.
@starsnoireart
@starsnoireart 4 күн бұрын
One of the biggest competitors they’ve ever seen in the hero shooter genre rears its head and all they have to offer to entice players are skins 🤦‍♀️ this is why I prefer Rivals. There is no substance to Overwatch anymore.
@shawngorski9714
@shawngorski9714 4 күн бұрын
Pretty much, marvel rivals just showed up like the cool parent taking you to Disney land, and overwatch is like, ice cream? 😂
@leocarvalho460
@leocarvalho460 2 күн бұрын
And even in panic mode, still 2600 for a single bundle, lol
@maskedmalayaligamer-gp7yk
@maskedmalayaligamer-gp7yk 4 күн бұрын
it seems like everyone intentionally forgetting that they gave away free mumen rider skin during one punch man collaboration like the katara skin during this collab lol
@philltheotherguy1868
@philltheotherguy1868 4 күн бұрын
@@maskedmalayaligamer-gp7yk that was In the video
@Subninja2012
@Subninja2012 3 күн бұрын
That awkward moment when a gigantic company realizes that it needs customers.
@Kryptic245
@Kryptic245 4 күн бұрын
Too little too late. Already uninstalled.
@senorpolainas3567
@senorpolainas3567 Күн бұрын
It is sad to see that it took this for them to react.
@nicholasesparza2978
@nicholasesparza2978 3 күн бұрын
Should have given us pve, and not taken away loot boxes
@redoofstro
@redoofstro 3 күн бұрын
6v6 was the first time i actually had fun losing as tank. Ran Sigma with a friend as Ramattra and I loved it, I hope this "experimental" mode sticks around
@whosMugen
@whosMugen 3 күн бұрын
this guy hella glazing the skins in the winter wonderland were asswater, the best ones are in bundles you have to pay 44$+ dollars for, the battlepass was trash with only 2 ok skins with tier 70 clearly set up for the mauga skin that they changed last second to that plain cassidy skin, the avatar bundle has some of the worst pricing to come out 57$ with 3 of the skins being so basic it hurts and all that topped off by yet another use rereleasing old overwatch 1 skins at sky high prices if this is there panic mod they just went from lvl 10 greed to lvl 9 lets not praise a horse who can run when most can.
@edgarramirez2532
@edgarramirez2532 3 күн бұрын
Having been a fan of Overwatch 1, it’s disappointing to see how the game has changed. Playing Overwatch 2 feels like being in a toxic relationship-promised happiness and excitement, only to be let down and hurt. It’s as if they expect gratitude despite the frustration they cause. Honestly, at this point, I’d rather side with the competition than keep dealing with the disappointment. Of course, that’s just one person’s perspective.
@monkeybrain0212
@monkeybrain0212 4 күн бұрын
It is a shame though to think that it only takes another competing game to make them actually treat the fans with love XD
@belkruki
@belkruki Күн бұрын
i hope they come back with the credits from playing game stuff
@Nessmess001
@Nessmess001 4 күн бұрын
If the competition makes OW be more healthy with their monetization practices, as well as more attentive to the balance of the game, it really could help out the game inmensely. I hope it does!
@applesauce5734
@applesauce5734 4 күн бұрын
Nice pfp
@Truxyric
@Truxyric 4 күн бұрын
Meanwhile some OW die hard players wish for Rivals downfall so OW2 can say the crappy game we all used to play. None of them can see the big picture.
@IDKouji
@IDKouji Күн бұрын
I despise OW2 because most skin are in a paywall unlike how OW1 was
@joe3019772008
@joe3019772008 4 күн бұрын
oh this is without a doubt them responding to marvel rivals and how they are allowing players to earn character's skins and stuff like that from playing. if blizzard really cared about their player base, they would give us the option to use our overly stocked ow1 credits on older shop skins like the cyberpunk hanzo and widowmaker. but, they don't really care about the player base or what we really want. so, yeah. ... this is them in panic mode and i love it. maybe it will make them wise up and start going back to this every new event or new season.
@JMQA1
@JMQA1 Күн бұрын
Who gives a fuck about skins for old heroes? It doesn't make any sense to have even 2 different legendary skins when you can only equip one, and can only even see your hands and gun.
@zombieplant64
@zombieplant64 3 күн бұрын
Thanks for letting me know that overwatch is giving free skins. I’ll login just to get it and leave.
@pregum9019
@pregum9019 4 күн бұрын
All of Kiriko’s skins identify as legendary 😂
@jaymothman
@jaymothman 4 күн бұрын
I've played most days since launch in 2016 and Rivals is the first game to make me feel like I don't wanna play OW anymore. Can't imagine I'm the only person like this. Free Widow skin rn isnt even enough to get me to play 9 games lol
@GamingChair420
@GamingChair420 4 күн бұрын
so glad that Blizzard is in the jolly spirit and celebrated by giving away free skins and it having nothing to do with marvel rivals
@noddarkwolf
@noddarkwolf 3 күн бұрын
retain the players good will? brother they havent had that since they gutted overwatch just to slap a 2 on it
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