Mastering Steep Turns - MzeroA Flight Training

[@orlandospencer]

Two years ago when I was doing my private pilot training, Your trim in the steep turn helps me to understand that they are all the ways of maneuvering the aircraft throughout the steep turn process. When I move the commercial I Flight Training those trims came in handy For maintaining that 50 to 60° of bank. Then I moved into flying multi engine, and with high wing loading and more power and speed it is then that I truly realize the importance of having the trim to assist in the steep turns. Thank you jason. PS. I constantly rack my brain around how your content is so good but the viewership on KZbin specifically is not as high as others have seen. I am still working on what the cost may be and if I find out you’ll be the first to know so you can improve this. Thank you so much for being a part of my Flight Training over the years.

[@MzeroAFlightTraining]

Thank you so much for watching and the kind words my friend!!

[@ordphx63]

Great video. Normally I used two swipes of the trim. I'm gonna try the 4 swipes and see how that goes for me. thanks

[@bigd90909]

Dylan here from South Florida. Just passed my PPL checkride last Wednesday. Started flying in March at F45 in a C150, switched to KLNA in a 172. Ended my training at X26 in a Piper Cherokee with 80 hours. The first thing my instructor at Sebastian taught me was trim for airspeed and that completely changed my flying!

[@MzeroAFlightTraining]

it can make a huge difference in the way that you fly. Glad you enjoyed it!

[@sams6928]

Great technique! I've used this on a couple of checkrides and it works really well. The CFIs were always impressed. Thanks so much!

[@MzeroAFlightTraining]

Great to hear, I'm glad it works for you! Thanks for your support!

[@michaelreyna9886]

I just completed my third lesson today and used this technique today. It was so very helpful. I’m a 48 year old that had dreamed of being a pilot my whole life. So glad that I finally started this journey. Really enjoy and appreciate the tips!

[@MzeroAFlightTraining]

Hey Michael! I'm so happy to hear that this is helping you! Great to see you never give up on your dreams of flying. We're here to help you every step of the way!

[@billguyette6585]

Yes. Helped me tremendously with doing away with the power increase and then decrease, which is how I was previously taught. 3 to the left, 4 to the right, no power changes. Thanks fo the tip. Worked perfectly on my check ride.

[@MzeroAFlightTraining]

That is awesome to hear!! We're so happy this technique worked for you. Thanks so much for watching!

[@richardbonander1507]

Very nice..I recently did this with trim and it was amazing how much easier it was than hand flying the turns

[@cliftonhbrownjr8120]

Hi Jason, I'm a CFI at KAPA. I've been teaching steep turns using trim but I like your rule of thumb of 3 cranks of trim for left and 4 for right; I'll give it a try tomorrow! Thanks, Cliff

[@MzeroAFlightTraining]

Hope it went well! Thanks for watching!

[@SuperAirplanemaster]

Hey Jason my name is Keilyn I’m a big fan of your videos especially helping me right now as I’m getting ready to take my commercial checkride Remember when I took my private pilot checkride that I’ve used trimmed when I was doing a steep Bank turn and boy let me tell you it was so easy to keep the plane coordinated and maintain the altitude where I was told we maintain it by the examiner and she was blown away by that she was amazed that I performed within standards actually was almost too perfect as she put it but it was within standards so keep up the good work can’t wait for your next for you to come out and just love your videos

[@MzeroAFlightTraining]

That's outstanding! Good luck with everything and thanks for watching!

[@lonhaenel3030]

I am stealing this!! Cleaning up steep turns tomorrow before my stage one check ride. Hope my CFI is impressed. Thanks Jason!

[@lonhaenel3030]

Update: just passed my Stage One Check using your trim "trick." Thanks Jason!

[@amp7876]

I used trim for steep turns in my flight test, work great on the left turn and then into the right turn up to the point the DPE threw an emergency decent into the mix 3/4 of the way through the right steep turn. LOL

[@Spartan536]

trim is something that constantly needs to be adjusted unless in stable level flight. It's something you have to get used to, I am still learning how to master it. In steep turns your trim is going to depend on bank angle and airspeed. The skill of using trim in a steep turn, or any kind of flight is to ASSIST the pilot in workload management, it makes it easier to hand fly as it takes the backpressure off the yoke so you don't have to "white knuckle" it. This is what I have learned in my short amount of time in flight training.

[@amp7876]

@@Spartan536 Correct. Trim was set for the steep turn. When the examiner threw in the emergency decent DURING the steep turn. Then trim is the last thing on my mind. It is a emergency, get to the ground at VNE or below while executing a turn. In other words get the fire out. Emergency checklist etc... This was during my PPL checkride.

[@Spartan536]

@@amp7876 I misunderstood the emergency descent, I thought you had set that up not the examiner, my apologies.

[@EricCullum]

My 2nd instructor had said that he did not know how to use trim until just before he finished with his Commercial. We then proceeded into a hands off 60°, 3,000' decending spiral. 😁 It was an awesome experience and reminded me how powerful trim can be on lessened workload.

[@MzeroAFlightTraining]

Awesome story - thanks for sharing!

[@moonshiner5412]

I was having trouble with Steep Turns when going for my Private. One of the instructors at the Aero Club showed me how to use the trim. In the planes we have about 2 turns for left and 3 turns for right works the best. I have just started going for my instrument rating. I also just got back into a plane after many months thanks to CCP-19. I totally forgot about trimming the other day when doing sort of a rusty pilot review. They were some really rough turns! After about 3 sets I remembered about trim, the instructor said after words he was glad I trimmed but was also glad I had done the first ones without. Sure a lot easier with trim. Thanks Jason, I appreciate your work.

[@irishcurse65]

I tried out 2 flight schools before choosing my current school and CFI (tried 2 at this school). The first school I tried we flew in a old cherokee and that instructor ( who I really liked) had me trim the steep turn. So much easier. My current CFI doesnt teach it like you. He tells me to trim some. I am flying tomorrow. I am going to try this.

[@austinpeel119]

I used this technique for training and for my check ride. Thank you MzeroA

[@MzeroAFlightTraining]

Glad it was helpful!

[@stevemowat4294]

Hi Jason. learning to fly in NZ; Tecnam P92 Echo (microlight here). I struggled to perform tight turns and used the trim method to my advantage. Yes have seen this video of yours before. Thank you

[@tnflygirl]

I will be doing my second lesson on steep turns tomorrow. I overbanked AND lost altitude the first time...not good at all. Left turn wasnt near as bad as right. My instructor said right turns can be more challenging for some students. I'm going to try and use trim tomorrow. You make it look SO easy. I hope to one day soon. Thanks for all the helpful videos!

[@MzeroAFlightTraining]

Hi Jenny! Thanks for tuning in. Steep turns can be tricky to master. It takes a lot of practice! Keep on doing them with your CFI and listen to his/her guidance. If you need any more help please reach out to us at [e-mail]. Enjoy your training!

[@tnflygirl]

@@MzeroAFlightTraining Im in a piper cherokee, so silly question, are you trimming up or down when you make the turns?

[@stephenrobinson8250]

I tried the trim version for steep turns the very first time I saw your original video. It was during an annual. Was amazed at how well it worked and how simple it was.

[@MzeroAFlightTraining]

That's so awesome to hear my friend! We're so glad it worked out for you. Thank you so much for watching!

[@stephenware8597]

I have not been in a plane sense 2004. I am going Saturday morning for the first step in getting back in the cockpit. I hope that I have a chance to use your technique. Awesome!

[@MzeroAFlightTraining]

I hope it went well! Thanks for watching!

[@witzer]

I just recently used trim in a steep turn for the first time and it felt great! This is a great explanation!

[@MzeroAFlightTraining]

Glad it was helpful!

[@fsamec]

Tom Davis over at Crystal River taught me that method a couple of years ago.

[@rrz464]

I did on my private ride a year ago, might use is on commercial here in a week, and I love showing it off to my instructors. So fun!

[@MzeroAFlightTraining]

Glad you like it.

[@kevingrosshandler5308]

This helped me nail steep turns for my ppl checkride. Added maybe 75 rpm and a click or 2 of trim.

[@MzeroAFlightTraining]

Excellent! Glad it was helpful!

[@TJMaloneWx]

I'm currently working toward my PPL and this is one maneuver I struggle with, mainly with altitude control. But, next time, I will apply this technique. I have a feeling this could be the key to finally nailing steep turns. Thanks for the great content. Your videos are awesome!

[@MzeroAFlightTraining]

Thanks for watching! You've got this -- good luck!

[@aaronfletcher1350]

That's what my instructor at carolina aviation here in aiken, sc teaches. Great channel!

[@MzeroAFlightTraining]

Awesome! Thanks for the support!

[@TheMottasa]

Jason, yes I have used this technique. I have found that it is easier to setup and execute in Cessnas (152s, 172s etc). In Piper low wings its a little different especially with a crank handle in the top. I'm getting ready to take my Commercial Checkride in a 1966 Comanche 260, it handles a little different in a steep turn than even a Warrior.

[@tnflygirl]

I have a 1969 piper cherokee with the "yee haw" trim as well. So Im assuming do you trim up right? Im going to try this again tomorrow.

[@TheMottasa]

@@tnflygirl Yes thats correct. Dont get real excessive with it though. If you find yourself going nose up in the turn, put some more bank in to decrease the horizontal lift, but watch the left yaw factor of the airplane as well. What you dont want to do is have excessive trim, and place yourself into an accellerated stall.

[@brandonl5343]

Your tutorial greatly helped me master this maneuver. Thank you for all you do for the aviation community.

[@MzeroAFlightTraining]

We're so happy we could help you with your flight training! Thank you so much for watching!

[@hollyklomhaus4697]

Thank you so much for this video, currently working on my Private Pilot's license and this video really helped me understand steep turns better!

[@MzeroAFlightTraining]

Happy to help, keep up the good work!

[@dwwphoto]

As a CFI, I not only use trim for steep turns but I teach students to also use trim once they learn how to hand fly it. You mentioned keeping an eye on how the horizon slices through the nose - its movement left or right on top of the dash is such a good indication of climbing or descending. Also Jason, you've probably answered it a number of times, but why do you sit in the right seat for your videos? Is it because you're tailoring the videos to the CFI who sits in the right seat?

[@mikemccarron1162]

Thanks for this great content and handy tool, always appreciate your teaching techniques

[@MzeroAFlightTraining]

Thank you so much for watching and the kind words!!

[@TheRealCFF]

I learned that technique for a T-38 IP about 8 years ago. It’s a good technique that takes a lot of the headache out of steep turns. Now that being said some examiners are not happy with applicants doing steep turns this way. I suspect the reasoning is that a steep turn is a maneuver with practical applications as opposed to, say, a Lazy Eight, which is done solely in a vacuum. I personally don’t care how one performs the maneuver. But if you do show them how to do a trimmed steep turn, also have them practice steep turns without trimming the plane. A good all around technique which not only allows for altitude control but also airspeed control, regardless of aircraft this is performed it is this. When rolling through 30° of bank, raise the nose by 5° of pitch and add 10% more power. If you can hold that attitude throughout the turn, the airplane should remain on airspeed throughout. Just remember to reduce power and lower the nose durning the rollout on heading!

[@MzeroAFlightTraining]

Great tip - thanks for sharing!

[@markoda8455]

I had my flight review yesterday and I could have used this advice. I never practice steep turns and it shows. I should have used some trim to help the move. Thanks for sharing!

[@MzeroAFlightTraining]

Thank you so much for watching!!

[@rexlinville8606]

You are the man. You are helping me immensely

[@MzeroAFlightTraining]

Thanks for watching, Rex! Glad we can help!

[@mraviator6534]

Hey Jason, I’ve watched your videos frequently during my time as a student and of course.... beyond 😉 With a great FI here in Germany, who has flown nearly „everything“, your footage was the final topping to pass my checkrides. Right now I’m collecting about 45hrs per year, crossing several borders here in Europe, so I just wanted to thank you for sharing and explaining your technique.

[@MzeroAFlightTraining]

That is awesome!

[@SuperZoomster]

I’ve watched your first steep turn video and used the trim trick and found it useful. I’ve transitioned away from maneuvers at the moment. Doing more cross country stuff now. But I’m sure I’ll be back to maneuvers soon. Lol

[@MrRufust]

First I have heard of it but love it will do it with an instructor. Done them under the hood last three flight reviews. THANKS!

[@MzeroAFlightTraining]

Glad to help

[@leoarjuncrasto]

Hie Jason, I have flown a steep turn using the Trim technique, also applied it on a Seneca 2 using 2 trims! I have noticed one thing as we had multiple airplanes in our fleet, the amount of trim varies from Aircraft to Aircraft, the 3 trims to the left and 4 to the right works well on relatively Stable C-172 with a GNS430 and an average right seat passenger but when I tried it on a C-172 with no GPS and just a single radio, It needed comparatively Less trim and if the airplane has G1000 panel, it needs much more power to hold altitude even if u put in the trim. Btw waiting for the Entire CFI course and CFII course on the online ground school. Regards

[@decathelondave9340]

Thanks for your help, I fly a Super Decathlon and don't want to het lazy. Loved the video. DG.

[@PilotDiggerdavid]

Very good! I can never remember which direction to put the trim in!

[@MzeroAFlightTraining]

Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching, Dave!

[@Tom-tk3du]

I've used trim in steep turns for years, primarily for complete 360 deg turns around a point. But not for shorter turns, say, 90-180 deg turns.

[@Tushka154]

Will be interesting to try this out on a C150 to see if it works the same.

[@MzeroAFlightTraining]

It should work on any training aircraft, let us know how it goes for you!

[@bobquinn3689]

Good job Jason

[@johnnyford2433]

Great Tip Jason!! You the Man!

[@MzeroAFlightTraining]

Glad you liked it!

[@brax2364]

Jason, a lot of us fly Pipers & I have two of them. My ‘69 has the trim above my head (Piper used a car window crank that looks exactly like the one in my ‘69 Volkswagen Beetle - seriously) and my ‘73 has the trim between the seats. The 3 & 4 method works great for the ‘73 same as the Cessna. Haven’t tried it on the ‘69 yet & no clue at this time how many overhead Volkswagon window handle cranks in a ‘69 Cherokee = 3 & 4 trim turns in a Cessna. Have to test it but your suggestion is a winner. Thanks!

[@av8rKCM]

I'm a Piper guy myself, are these trim rolls from neutral setting? Also are they full rolls from fwd floor, to aft floor? I never learned doing steep turns w/ trim.

[@brax2364]

Kevin Miller I first saw this video about a year ago or so. Looking at the video I basically tried to mimic approxately the same amount of trim wheel movement with the trim wheel located between the Piper seats in my ‘73 as Jason did with the Cessna. Looked to me that he grabbed a big hand-full from the top of the wheel and went all the way down each time. I did the same with the Piper. Grabbed it at the front and went all the way aft 3x to the left and 4x to the right. It seemed to work the same as the Cessna. Not sure how much trim to crank aft with the ‘69 trim up in the headliner. Have to experiment. Maybe I’ll try moving the handle 180 degrees x 3 to the left and 180 deg 4x to the right.

[@av8rKCM]

@@brax2364 Thanks, I definitely got to give this a try next time I go up.

[@mikestinson5743]

Will using this technique work as well with a Piper Warrior 160? Absolutely a great video. Thanks

[@MzeroAFlightTraining]

You're sigh picture will be different but worth a shot!

[@godzgreatgift]

Love your videos - do you have any videos on Lazy 8s?

[@MzeroAFlightTraining]

Hey Mohamed! We do have videos on Lazy Eights and lessons about them in our online ground school! Thanks for watching!

[@kakarat234]

I used it 4 yrs go when I was learning. Saw jason do this and the secret to perfect landing worked great 🙂😁

[@MzeroAFlightTraining]

Great to hear!

[@israelcanada8969]

Do you add power prior to trim the aircraft? Thanks ♥

[@kenflick6658]

I used trim on my check rides. gets a little hairy if it's a bit bumpy up there as I recall

[@daverr8163]

How About power settings? If your in a steep turn your using more angle of attack which increases induced drag.

[@FinkelBlog]

I have the same question: wouldn't it be necessary to add power to maintain altitude? But in any case, great tip, Jason! Steep turns were always my bugaboo during primary training!

[@robertlove2936]

Not employed trim yet, but from this I certainly will.....my instructor did recommend in fairness.

[@hunkyaz]

Awesome way to do steep turns!

[@MzeroAFlightTraining]

We think so too! Thank you so much for watching!!

[@flywithjohnnnzo3375]

This has definitely helped! I used to dread this maneuver!

[@joesamson361]

This was great!

[@MzeroAFlightTraining]

Thanks for watching! Glad you liked it!

[@JoseJimenez-ey3fm]

how do you read a checklist for taxing take off etc

[@chnz3401]

Hey Jason, ME-IFR CFI here from Australia. I used your technique when I was a student myself, worked beautifully. But unfortunately we are not allowed to use trim during the flight tests. :-( I sometimes show your technique to some of my students and they do well, but again tell them can’t use it for flight test. Also great video as usual! I like your instructing technique! Cheers, Marco

[@karlsandin4515]

Strange, as knowing how to properly use trim is a fundamental in flying

[@alk672]

@@karlsandin4515 I don't understand why using trim in steep turns is allowed in the US. To me the whole point of a steep turn is to demonstrate that you won't panic due to uncomfortable feeling of G forces if you need a steep turn in a real world situation. A big part of it is being able to maintain large amount of back pressure required to maintain altitude in a steep turn, so what's the point in trimming it out? What are we achieving by demonstrating a steep turn that way?..

[@karlsandin4515]

@@alk672 the reason behind a steep turn is not to not panic because of a g load, if you are coordinated you shouldn’t even be feeling much force in the seat at all, in fact the FAA states the reasoning behind such maneuver is - “The objective of the steep turn is to develop a pilot’s skill in flight control smoothness and coordination, an awareness of the airplane’s orientation to outside references, division of attention between flight control application, and the constant need to scan for hazards.” Trim is your friend , flying an aircraft out of trim is aimless and potentially dangerous in certain phases of flight.

[@alk672]

@@karlsandin4515 A turn (if altitude is maintained) is a G-loaded maneuver, whether you are coordinated or not. At 45 degrees of bank you will experience 1.2g, at 60 degrees - 2g. Now, when it comes to what FAA says I understand, but I still find it weird that the objective of a steep turn is not to evade, but rather to demonstrate something. Maybe it's just me :)

[@karlsandin4515]

@@alk672 and you’re absolutely right that a small amount of positive G is felt in a steep turn , however I’d say nothing that should cause discomfort ! Again this is just my understanding from what the FAA states and what we teach , various opinions are always respected

[@garrettmccarthy1655]

I can’t seem to figure out why more trim is needed on the right turn? I figured because of left turning tendencies you’d want more trim while turning left. Any explanation would be helpful!

[@davidstelmaschuk4198]

Hi Jason, Great video. Why three left and four Right??

[@kieferrichardson8324]

I would guess it has something to do with left turning tendencies, but that’s just my guess!

[@issworgurung5605]

On our check ride can we use trim for steep turn?

[@DrCrabnetter]

Great tip, never was taught that! Can't wait to try it on my next lesson.

[@ShemariahOverman]

I used trim for steep turns on my Private Pilot check ride.

[@MzeroAFlightTraining]

That's awesome to hear! Thank you so much for watching!

[@elliotbell3598]

Would you recommend this for the commercial flight test?

[@MzeroAFlightTraining]

Yes you an use this technique for a commercial checkride.

[@skhalid6597]

What about the power setting?

[@dannykenworthy2904]

Can’t wait to try it

[@MzeroAFlightTraining]

Let us know how it worked for you.

[@Pilot6178]

Should add a little power in a 45 turn, because to loose airspeed and lift

[@mrboss20ten]

Where I train there isn’t much of a horizon so I have to use the instruments more than I’d like. Halfway through the turn the nose just drops. Just how much back pressure am I supposed to be using 😅

[@MzeroAFlightTraining]

Hello! That can be kind of tricky, the 3 rolls of trim is supposed to handle the back pressure for you for the most part while you're in the turn. It makes it a lot easier to manage.

[@vrendus522]

My instructor took me through a few steep turns, but I don't recall the trim wheel being activated. Your demo way looks good. But if asked by a check pilot you use just the pilot control wheel?

[@MzeroAFlightTraining]

Both ways of doing steep turns will be ok. Do what you are more comfortable with. The Check Pilot is just going to make sure you remain inside of the restraints set by the ACS standards.

[@carlosdeleon7620]

What is the reason for the 2 watches? Just curious. I know Jason doesn't do anything unless it's for a reason.

[@MzeroAFlightTraining]

Hey Carlos! Here's a video where Jason explains why bit.ly/jason2watches

[@KellyBradyPilot]

I learned this method first here on MZero.com I use it all the time and on occasion will simply hand fly using the same principle of slicing the nose across the horizon.

[@MzeroAFlightTraining]

That's so awesome to hear my friend! Thank you so much for your support and for watching!!

[@felixceciliavancampenhout3896]

Jason what about in a Cessna 150M please? same trim work? please respond

[@josephsener420]

Never tried it since I use the electric trim and it takes a while to crank that far. I will give it a try?

[@arashmohebbi3017]

May i ask when do you start to trim the aircraft within the manuever?after 30 degrees bank or on 45 degrees?

[@HiTechRob]

For me, it works to apply the trim after you have banked past a standard rate turn (like around 30 degrees I start putting the trim in). I hope that helps. Every aircraft and load factor will cause the precise amount of trim to vary a tad but 3 rolls for left turn and 4 rolls for right turn in a C172R or 172S model seems to work for me.

[@arashmohebbi3017]

@@HiTechRob thank you Robert. All the time I do the same but sometimes works and sometimes doesn't work at the same aircraft! (The noses goes up)!

[@duanetyrusfernandes2659]

So you don’t need to add 100 RPM passing through 30 degree?

[@MzeroAFlightTraining]

Hi Duane! Consult your aircraft's POH and a CFI but typically you need to add a little bit of power when entering a steep turn to take into account the loss of vertical component of lift and having to increase back pressure. Make sure that if you do add power to take it out when completing the turn to avoid ballooning or increasing airspeed too much.Thanks for watching!

[@cmason45]

Jason, would this technique have the same outcome in a low wing aircraft?

[@MzeroAFlightTraining]

Yes, it would

[@BigLewFPV]

Just learned something new today that was awesome

[@MzeroAFlightTraining]

That's awesome! Thanks so much for watching!

[@gregdurfee1915]

I like the idea of using trim as you suggest, but as with one of the other replies, the idea is frowned upon by check pilots here. They too, talk about "slicing across the horizon". Trouble is, I've never found a place in New Mexico where I can see a Kansas-like horizon in a 360º turn. Do you have any suggestions for steep turns over mountainous or irregular terrain?

[@Tom-tk3du]

I've got the same horizon issue up here in Colorado. I also use the VSI a lot as it's the time derivative of altitude. Adjusting pitch in response to changes in VSI can really help you nail maintaining constant altitude. I do it mostly subconsciously by feel now. My RV-8 maintains more of a nose down attitude in turns than a Cessna...took practice to get that sight picture dialed in.

[@steven3479]

@@Tom-tk3du But the VSI is a VERY laggy instrument.

[@flyus747]

can someone explain how it is possible to maintain altitude and speed in a steep turn without adding power?

[@jesusrogeliozarate]

I was teach to to add power on step turns. so no power needed using trim?

[@cfagerstrom]

In case you didn't see his answer to another with the same question - no power changes needed.

[@bobstewart195]

Great, great lesson today.....sign me, A Rusty Pilot......

[@MzeroAFlightTraining]

Thank you so much for watching!!

[@nelsonmorales6831]

Great Technique!

[@MzeroAFlightTraining]

Thanks!

[@davidmaxwell3604]

When exactly do you put the trim in? Is it right as you go into the turn, before hitting 45 degrees, that part wasn't clear to me. Thank you.

[@robveras]

I always start putting in the trim once I get to 30 degrees, otherwise you'll start to climb.

[@randalbrauner2846]

why is trim amount different to the left vs the right?

[@Jay-fs6mh]

No power adjustment necessary ??

[@MzeroAFlightTraining]

Hi Jay! You may need to add a little power (approximately 100 RPM depending on the aircraft) while entering the turn due to the increase in back pressure, but make sure to take it back out when rolling out so you don't increase your airspeed. Hope this helps, please reach out to us at [e-mail] if you need more clarification. Thanks for watching!

[@Jay-fs6mh]

@@MzeroAFlightTraining Awesome. Thanks for the explanation had the reply :) Cheers!

[@nathanputratz1341]

Yep I use it every time

[@MzeroAFlightTraining]

Awesome to hear! Thank you so much for watching!

[@beovp91]

N32693 Using that trim in my Arrow makes it much easier. Thank you.

[@MzeroAFlightTraining]

Thank you for watching!!

[@fs2004Emirates11]

just 1 quick question bud, why you wearing two watches ?? :P kinda curious here

[@MzeroAFlightTraining]

Check out this fun video for the story! facebook.com/watch/?v=2873450656082679

[@RottenOldFish]

I use trim thanks to you.

[@MzeroAFlightTraining]

No problem!

[@ajmjtl]

Not a pilot, just an enthusiast. Question for the pilots...Why the different trim settings on the left vs. the right steep turns, as opposed to being equal on both turns?

[@HiTechRob]

to counteract the left-turning tendencies of torque, p-factor, etc.

[@kakarat234]

The p factory of the prop wash falls 90 degrees to the left which causes the plane to go left the 4th one on the right keeps it stable

[@codyrice2245]

Why 3 swipes left and 4 right?

[@MzeroAFlightTraining]

Might be slightly different from plane to plane.

[@ctc2986]

awesome

[@TJGilmour]

Do you add any power when doing this or do you leave the throttle the same throughout the maneuver?

[@MzeroAFlightTraining]

The power was not touched during the maneuver.

[@MrAlwaysBlue]

It’s a useful aircraft control exercise. However steep turns would normally only be used in evasive manoeuvres and you wouldn’t be thinking about trim then.

[@kakarat234]

With chart nav turns about a point helps with time to figure out the correct course

[@alk672]

@@kakarat234 you wouldn't be doing those in a 45 or 60 degree bank.

[@bizr9958]

Trimming nose up?

[@MzeroAFlightTraining]

Yes, trim nose up.

[@johncambra9332]

Never uaed trim in a 45 turn

[@perrysplus]

I tried your method, didnt work for me at all. Suppose I will try it again though :)

[@kiethlowry2862]

Never heard of it

[@snaproll94e]

That's cheating, lol. 🛩