Mastering the wheel (video lesson)

Mastering the Wheel: At the workbench with Gerd Schraner (DT Swiss) and Alex Roussel (UCI). A practical course to get to know everything about the wheels for road, track, MTB and BMX. Comprehensive for beginners and professionals.

[@manoftheroad55]

The Definitive wheel build video.... excellent ...clear ...premise... and easy to understand....thank you for the education MoR

[@Albanez39]

Thanks for making the video understandable for those with mental disabilities. Those 5 second pauses after each sentence give us time to think, even if a 40 minute video turned into 1:54. Nonetheless, it's the best video tutorial for wheel building out there!

[@antonioelia4829]

Master class! I'm Italian and I don't understand perfectly, but this video has no language limits and above all teaches the reasons for the various positions, especially regarding the hub holes on both sides. Very precious stages, thank You!!

[@arthurthompson8629]

This Gentleman is the very foundation, of better wheel building, for Future Generations. We can all learn from each other, to enhance a better understanding.

[@ikeraden8933]

instablaster...

[@mikeljhonson8959]

Over the years I have built several wheels for my personal use and also for personal amusement... though it all started when a so called professional mechanic told me my accidentally bent wheel won't be trued to the previous form. Then i felt curious and tried to correct it over an over again all by myself. With the help of internet. Also gathering some knowledge from reading wheel builder's instructional books. First time, i finally did correct that wheel though partially trued. Latterly trued 100% but radial perfection and even spoke tension was hard to achieve since it was already bent from collision. But that success was so much confident gathering i went on and never ride again. =D

[@KKhhoorrnniittee]

The more I watched this video, the more I thought I should have read "The art of wheelbuilding" by this same gentleman first.

[@rrrashen]

It is an excellent book, I built a few pairs of wheels following its very clear instructions (similar to what is shown in this video) and they all hold up very well.

[@kekkorr]

Great video. Now i have undestand much better the wheels building technic!

[@ambientblue-eyedmonkey8849]

1:46:42 it's a must for fixed gear riders, for tracks riders it's up to them and type of competition.

[@viperocco]

This is a really informative video, thank you!

[@nacktmulll]

Thank you for uploading this great Video!

[@alexanders2693]

Good instruction. Make wheel at first try. This lacing confirm recomendation of shimano disk brakes requirements.

[@dampfjoe6860]

Great video. The book from Gerd Schraner is also very informative.

[@alwayslearning7672]

Amazing!!...This is such a clear well explained video...just built my wheel!!!

[@hemisuperzee1287]

Interesting wheel documentary, but there are easier building vids on you tube.

[@velolocation6461]

thank you for making this excellent video available, an excellent and informative production

[@Albanez39]

No lock ring, no brakes. You shouldn't have said that track sprinters don't use them, lots of kids new to fixed gear will crash and get hurt without a lock ring. Track sprinters don't need brakes because of the track shape. The track is ascending towards the outside, they climb it to slow down and then descend to speed up. But fixed gear bikes in cities should have a lock ring at all costs!

[@rn110rn110]

agreed you're not that fast even if its not njs

[@aboumankal3294]

This lectures is very helpful and amazing

[@LauriAP]

Art as wheelbuilding and tyre assembly.

[@Hertog_von_Berkshire]

Video omits mention of single-butted spokes (for tourers and tandems).

[@nickmason-smith7301]

While butting might raise the stress along the midspan of the spokes, the concentrated stress at the spoke/nipple and spoke/hub interfaces mean that the magnitudes will be greatest there (for typical butted spokes); the elbow and nipple will be the 'weakest links' when considering fatigue damage. If this holds, I can't see how straight-gauge spokes are an advantage (ignoring cost) on tourers and tandems. Raising the spoke count is valuable in reducing the stress on each spoke; nevertheless the arguments in favour of butting hold true for tourers and tandems as well as ordinary bikes. If anything, saving weight on a tourer means more room for carrying pastries :) Keen to hear arguments to the contrary; with these topics there is much assertion and precious little data (in the public domain, at least). Jobst Brandt argues in 'The Bicycle Wheel' that the greater elasticity of butted spokes reduces stress magnitudes due to improved load sharing. I would be curious to see how high spoke count wheels with heavily butted (eg. DT Revolution) spokes would go on a fully loaded tourer if this argument holds.

[@carlcastillo5460]

Thank you for this informative video. I learned a lot😁

[@timtaylor9590]

can anyone tell me why my wheel goes slightly out of tru after i mount the tire? i cant true it with the tire on because theyre only accessable from inside the rim well. so i have to mark which spokes to adjust and how much when the tire is inflated on the wheel, then take it off to make the adjustments. this is obviously a terrible way to have to true a wheel.

[@Duraltia]

@01:05:50 Thanks for the clarification... People might otherwise have guessed the creaking coming from either the Artisan Builder's bones or joints ;)

[@hemisuperzee1287]

Tied and soldered spoke crossing.........seen this once in my life in the 1980's in US. Was this common in Europe at one time?

[@chrisbliss2034]

I believe the practice has to do with the very early years of cycling---- penny farthings, or ordinaries as they were correctly called. Their spokes were very long and if one broke in motion could be dangerous, therefore wheelbuilders began wiring and soldering them at their final cross , adding stiffness as well safety.

[@simonofthepiemansSN]

Toast of London.

[@kekkorr]

Where i can find the manual show in this video?

[@joonkihong1550]

좋은 내용 감사합니다

[@jpaqpc]

Thanks for the video. Great video. I like to know more about 5x lacing disc brake 36 hole rim ? I figure from your video starting with #1 and # 12 then over 1 and cross over 4. then skip 5 then with the next hole place next spoke I like to know if that is correct ? Thanks for your time.

[@a.sarmiento5116]

If you do 4 cross will this shorten the spoke as compared to 3 cross?

[@nigelnightmare4160]

No.

[@a.sarmiento5116]

Actually I was able to fit the 700c spoke when I did a 4 cross. The problem with rims nowadays is that manufacturers thickened the distance to the hub. I do not know how they call it so the ordinary spokes for 700c rim becomes longer if you do 3 cross as standard. So instead of cutting and rethread I did 4 cross. This went well although tension was a little low but it fits. And trued.

[@JamesBeau37]

Is it possible to get a copy of the guide that is referenced in this video?

[@damian33dc]

Yes it's on the internet available in many places as PDF file

[@christianjohndeguzman6278]

thanks

[@jamesalanjob]

1:39:25 1140 psi???

[@Coreybrowning]

definitely a mistake in the dubbing. Probably meant 140psi

[@Lebberg]

Exellent !

[@rudysbikes8597]

[e-mail] the THANKS

[@garyingram3378]

can you get a die to cut new threads on a used spoke? if so what size threads are they?

[@KKhhoorrnniittee]

@RollinRat Or a Morizumi machine (3.3K) that does all of the above. Not a home shop tool, probably.

[@KKhhoorrnniittee]

​@RollinRat, you mean Mori Seiki, now DMG Mori?​ (-; Before I fully understood you, I managed another comment, now found in the P.S. P.S.I didn't see it for myself, but the guy who sells them (Wheelfanatyk), states that it cuts (to length) AND threads spokes. And we are not talking "huge factories and megacorporations"-cost-effective, it's more like shop-cost-effective thing.

[@grecoconan5858]

English subtitles, please. 👍

[@nigelnightmare4160]

1:39:25 The tubula is pumped up to 1,140psi!!! Yikes!

[@Oneofakind126]

Big Bada Boom! #Leeloo X-D

[@gabrieleferioli5222]

good

[@bootchop88]

very entertaining even during the civil war.

[@SharonD369]

Wow the tension on then spokes 1050 Nm or 1015 he said, that’s almost twice as much as the wheel nuts on my 44 ton truck which is around 600Nm lol

[@averagelife5523]

Park

[@eduardovillagra5482]

14:05 the spoke dies kkkk

[@ShuikGaming]

Instructions unclear, built a wheel for Mario Kart

[@ambientblue-eyedmonkey8849]

52:55 neither is measuring spokes DEFLECTION... professional wheel builders barely use such useless tools and when they do use, it's used just for a random check to see if they're somewhere around a ballpark. How did tour de france exist before park tool came up with this nonsense? I know here it is DT, but park tool came with this nonsense, most importantly how did bmx existed? huh? Another nonsense is their bottom bracket facing tool... like what? No one ever needed this sh** and now everyone uses it... if you have to use it means manufactory should quite making bike frames and refund you.

[@KarlosEPM]

I second your opinion. The use of fewer and fewer spokes on wheels has driven a need to tension spokes with upmost precision, hence the tensiometer's arrival. And the bb shell tool... outboard bearings need a perfectly flat surface against to which properly seat to work optimally. But these are marginal gains which do not come without caveats. The latter being increased maintenance and price, which are not a problem if you have a team with mechanics and plenty spares (given for free by sponsors), but makes no sense for enthusiasts or home mechanics.

[@usamanasher6852]

My wife would divorce me if I spent so much time on a bike

[@CorvusCoroneCanisLupusSawel]

That's why I've stayed single.

[@markbrakebill5684]

Maybe consider, truing "her" ?

[@mariomilliaccio927]

NEVER NEVER NEVER use Loctite to block the nipples!!

[@geoffsemon7411]

I've been using 222 for years and have built hundreds of wheels using it

[@mariomilliaccio927]

A wheel perfect assembled does not require loctite! Locatore avidi the natural assestament of the spoke.

[@geoffsemon7411]

Cyclists and roads aren't perfect and I prefer the belt and braces approach. If a rider hits a pothole when they're doing a 600km Audax ride or even a local club ride I don't won't the wheel to cause any problems. I mainly build wheels for guys that break factory wheels and want reliability

[@Unix_Based]

@@geoffsemon7411 : Indeed, locking the nipples makes wheels more reliable and consitently. Allthough i use linseed oil since ages and never got dissapointed by it. And the best is, it's bio degradable :-D

[@johnnybeton2424]

The explainations about the functionning of a spoked wheel and about the fatigue spokes elbow are the same as in his book, and it's a lot of bullshits. Gerd Schraner his (was?) maybe a good wheelbuilder, but as an engineer he doesn't worth as scrap. The worst is that now this non sense bla bla is gossiped by half of the planet. If you want to learn how a bicycle works in real, please read "The Bicycle Wheel" by Jobst Brandt.

[@Hertog_von_Berkshire]

I was about to post the same comment. There's a lot to disagree with in this video. Jobst Brandt's book is excellent. Arguably the single most important (and counter-intuitive) point he makes is that a bicycle wheel does not hang from its top spokes; rather it stands on its bottom spokes.

[@Hertog_von_Berkshire]

taseen iqbal, read Jobst Brandt then go back and re-watch the video. At several points, you will be screaming at your computer screen.

[@mariomilliaccio927]

Hertog von Berkshire . The book of Brant us the only Holy Bible available.

[@ScrubsIsee]

Hertog von Berkshire Can you please provide more about the errors Schraner makes? Or point to the relevant chapters in Jobst Brandts book? There seems to be so much confusing information out there about wheelbuilding.

[@Unix_Based]

@@Hertog_von_Berkshire : "that a bicycle wheel does not hang from its top spokes; rather it stands on its bottom spokes." Not even possible!!! Spokes are strong when pulled. They are weak and bending when you push on them. Hence, the upper spokes bear the weight of the bike and rider, while in a properly tensioned wheel the lower spokes prevent the rim from bending outwards keeping the shape of the wheel by that. When spokes are too lose on a wheel, the lower spokes indeed can come lose every time they hit the lowest point per revolution. Also, keep in mind how nipples are ankered in the rims. If you radially push a spoke outwards of a wheel, you would poke the spoke and nipple through the tire and tube. There can ABSOLUTELY NO FORCE be appplied on pushed spokes. The entire structural integrity of spoked wheels is based on pull tensioned spokes and not pushed ones.