Masters of the Air. Season 1. Episode 9. We were the true masters of the air.

Hello there and welcome to the opening scene from the final episode. Enjoy it!
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A series from Apple. During WWII, five miles above the ground and behind enemy lines, ten men inside a bomber known as a "Flying Fortress" battle unrelenting flocks of German fighters.
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Have a wonderful day! I recommend listening with headphones.

[@hasina1461]

"It is generally inadvisable to eject directly over the area you just bombed." - U.S. Air Force Marshal

[@Moonstalker46]

lol

[@user-qe6ru4sc7o]

Que aria en una guerra sin entenderse el idioma

[@wnose]

In real life, Rosie was actually shot down TWICE (Sep 1944 + Feb 1945) and he made it back each time. He completed 52 combat missions and earned 16 decorations. He passed away peacefully in 2007. RIP.

[@miliba]

I was wondering why the first time being shot down wasnt shown

[@tygrenvoltaris4782]

​@@miliba Prob pissed off these armchair nerds thinking its chuck norris stuff

[@Daniel-de2jh]

​@@miliba Probably didnt have enough time to show it

[@camiloteram]

@@Daniel-de2jh yeah the whole series / pacing felt rushed. loved it otherwise

[@CNe7532294]

@@camiloteram Agree. Pacing does seem to be an issue with TV series these days. Surprised with the low number of eps when first known. Usually feels like 12 eps minimum. I would have loved to have completely seen how evading the nazis when shot down worked out. You can only do so much I guess.

[@vindicator05]

"We're NOT bailing over Berlin" Can't really argue that, right?

[@tedcrilly46]

this is youtube we can argue anything.

[@vindicator05]

@@tedcrilly46 oh yeah, and in the fourth turn the flaming will start massively 😃

[@j.dunlop8295]

My uncle Elvin was a tail gunner, horrible PTSD, loud noises set him off! ( screaming, yelling and throwing stuff!) He was a friend of Snuffy Smith, (Maynard Harrison "Snuffy" Smith was a United States Army Air Forces staff sergeant! "Medal of Honor" receiver" "Couldn't do a Damm thing right, except when it counted!" Elvin said. (Snuffy too, suffered terrible PTSD!) When Secretary of Defence, came to give Smith his medal, they couldn't find him? He was on KP. peeling potatoes, punishment detail!😅 (Wikipedia covers this, kind of!)

[@charlesklimko492]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maynard_Harrison_Smith

[@ChickenNugget-dk9hp]

Was he with the 306 at Thurleigh? If so would love to hear more about him as I volunteer at the museum there.

[@walterm140]

Henry Stimson was Secretary of War when he presented Smith the MoH.

[@Perfectblue33]

I am sorry that i could not show the entire opening scene. I tried but i got blocked. I hope you still enjoy it. Have a wonderful day!

[@kellybaxter2558]

Thanks for giving us this clip :)

[@Perfectblue33]

@@kellybaxter2558You are most welcome! Have a wonderful day and thank you for your nice comment!

[@redeyejedi3700]

Thank you and may the force be with you

[@Perfectblue33]

@@redeyejedi3700hello there... and thanks for your comment!

[@KalkatuRimba]

Sorry Sir...What name Movies..?

[@Turbulencje]

WE'RE OKAY LUKE, LOOKS LIKE WE-- *BANG*

[@georgeofhamilton]

“We were the true Masters of the Air, Season 1, Episode 9 (2024).”

[@tangofrown3352]

tee vee

[@leisureenjoyer1986]

lol

[@captain0080]

JRR Martin did it again!

[@Phantom-uk2nd]

2:34 wish there we're more perspectives like this in the show and the CGI bombers here actually look decent as well

[@molanohouse]

Looks to be a hit or miss show. Sad knowing both the Pacific and BoB were great shows in everything.

[@Phantom-uk2nd]

@@molanohouseyea man so much wasted potential for this show i do like it but wouldn't recommend anyone else to watch it

[@tygrenvoltaris4782]

​@@Phantom-uk2ndpacific is bland as hell. the worse of the three

[@CzechImp]

Bland?! The first casualties we see are two tortured marines, one with his genitals cut off and put in the others mouth (whose head has been cut off). If you think that is bland then I'm not sure what will please you!@@tygrenvoltaris4782

[@stefanjost259]

In 1945 most of the USAF bombers were B-17Gs, I only see E and F versions in the scenes, which were mostly in olive green and most of the G versions were in natural polished silver. Somehow it's not really depicted perfectly.

[@bmused55]

This is correct, but time and budget constraints meant they had to roll with what they had. The full sized, real, B-17 they had for ground shots was an F. So they had to stick to the F. Still, it doesn't take away from the over all spectacle.

[@stefanjost259]

Couldn't that have been changed in this day and age using computer animation?!

[@JADEK111]

​@@stefanjost259Imagine having a $250M budget and still not much work has been done on the CGI. I dunno where they poured the money onto most if not the CGI. So much potential, very little effort. I won't say that the CGI in the entire show is 100% bad, because there are very nice scenes.

[@stefanjost259]

I don't really agree with the current possibilities of computer animation that could have been used. We must not forget that this is not twenty or thirty years ago when these options would have really cost a fortune. Even if the production had a fixed budget, the visuals would still have had to be closer to the reality of the time because the relationship between the crews could not really be represented correctly. I don't have the slightest doubt about the work for this excellent acting and performance, but for me it falsifies the reality of that time.

[@JADEK111]

@@stefanjost259 With the delays due to COVID and the rushed production, it is very clear that something has fallen between the chairs and things were either overlooked or weren't given enough thought process. That is why MotA, as a show that depicts a set of WWII events dedicated to American air crews, has not been fulfilled accordingly, which really saddens me.

[@SHSNJROTC]

Crosbys narration in the beginning. stunning "We were the true masters of the air"

[@Blastback8]

Yeah the delivery is just perfect.

[@CzechImp]

The only problem is that it isn't true! This raid is in February 1945. The Luftwaffe shot down many Allied aircraft in the coming weeks. Claiming to be masters of the air is an insult to those airmen who died in the last weeks of the war.

[@SnafuWT]

@@CzechImp i think its just a reference to how they had ABSOLUTE air superiority during the ending months of the war. even their allies are dwarfed by the armadas that the USAAF put out during that time.

[@Raguleader]

@@CzechImp By February 1945, the Luftwaffe was going through its death throes, though they still threw up surges of resistance here and there. They simply didn't have enough experienced pilots left, on top of suffering from serious fuel shortages and Allied fighter pilots making a point of attacking German airfields. The majority of USAAF losses by this point in the war were due to anti-air artillery.

[@CzechImp]

@@Raguleader True. But they were still flying and shooting down Allied planes - hence "masters of the air" is simply not true.

[@SebPaez]

Quite decent VFX in this one, especially during the Dutch humanitarian food drop

[@stefanjost259]

Very interesting to read and also important background information. Thank you for that.

[@j.dunlop8295]

They were mixed, B17-C,G,E ECT throughout the war! My Neighbor John Mass, was a recovery mechanic with 8th! He went out to crashed bombers, cleaning out blood and body parts, repairing them in farmer's fields, put JATO rockets on them popping them up, back to flying again! 😢 Haunted him, till the day he died! Asked to work in aircraft maintenance, he worked on boats, after the war! My uncle Elvin was a tail gunner, horrible PTSD, loud noises set him off! He was a friend of Snuffy Smith, (Maynard Harrison "Snuffy" Smith was a United States Army Air Forces staff sergeant! "Medal of Honor" receiver" "Couldn't do a Damm thing right, except when it counted!" Elvin said. (Snuffy too, suffered terrible PTSD!) When Secretary of Defence, came to give Smith his medal, they couldn't find him? He was on KP. peeling potatoes, punishment detail!😅 (Wikipedia covers this, kind of!)

[@jamesr4464]

The Tuskegee Airmen were just tokens in this series. Before it aired, I thought they would show them escorting bombers, but all they did was get shot down and be prisoners.

[@gatoazul6918]

😔

[@Boscoh_]

I agree with you. Pretty sure they’re setting up a future Tuskegee series.

[@brunellus87]

Yeeeesssss....you were the MASTERS! Up there in the skies....

[@saedrix9807]

4:33 I’m willing to bet that popped up in his nightmares. Jesus

[@Perfectblue33]

Thank you for commenting. Have a wonderful day!

[@stevenstreets695]

This show really belongs a big screen. Big as the sky.

[@kellybaxter2558]

I really loved the final episode. Nate Mann was especially incredible.

[@Turbulencje]

can you belive its like his 4th movie he's in?

[@kellybaxter2558]

@@Turbulencje Wow. Incredible.

[@vipwanrinkle6439]

he was made for this role

[@archangelofcoffee922]

P-51D Mustang's in that "Big Beautiful Doll" checkerboard nose paint scheme. My personal favorite next to the Red Tails and the Blue Nosed Bastards of the 352nd.

[@Medjay_Aleks]

The Checkerboard pattern denotes the 78th FG, flying from Duxford in Cambridgeshire

[@kdriscoll57]

Anyone else notice the pirate mug on a shelf in the final episode? Nod to 12 o'clock high??

[@Perfectblue33]

That is a really good observation there. Thank you for your comment. Have a wonderful day!

[@whaaat3632]

I missed that! Will have to watch it again. Loved that movie!

[@Perfectblue33]

@@whaaat3632It's a series mate. only 1 season. Thank you for commenting. Have a wonderful day!

[@ereini0n]

Such a good show! Love the return to air in the finale 💙

[@TheSocratesian]

Sorry to burst your bubble but the "return to the air" was made up corny BS that didn't happen. That finale, the ignoring crucial events and the made up crap was kind of insulting to what these men endured.

[@craigsurette3438]

"“We were the true Masters of the Air.." Proceeds to get shot down while on a bombing run.

[@Warmaker01]

They were despite being shot down. The Luftwaffe's ability to deal with Western Allied air power took a massive dump in 1944 and got worse and worse. The same Allied mastery of the air where the Luftwaffe couldn't even deal with Operation Overlord in 1944. The Luftwaffe fighter force was wrecked. Allied ground forces had to worry about German air attacks even less. That's true mastery of the air.

[@augusttorres2943]

Being Masters of the Air doesn’t account for ground based defenses. Where’s the Luftwaffe?

[@anglermatt]

We as in the whole unit, not the individual

[@dac5782]

@@augusttorres2943 Yeah. Post-Bodenplatte, the Luftwaffe essentially ceased to exist as a viable threat to Allied air power.

[@clpfox470]

"It had appeared i had spoke too soon"

[@user-gt3ve9jj9k]

ディズニープラスでこういう海外ドラマやってくれー

[@PanzerChicken69]

Thats quite a hilarious statement, comming from a country that allways gets involved in WorldWars by the time they are basically won.

[@nickdanger3802]

Only three and one half years to go to victory in Europe.

[@davesplasticmodelreviewsan8033]

I guess the b-17g did not exist

[@dystopia-utopiarelation-re3191]

I'd like to see a ME 262 Rotte in action

[@Perfectblue33]

Shame this series was one season only. I don't think we will see anything like it for some time to come. Thanks for your comment. Have a wonderful day!

[@sebastiankeller4420]

1:15 Did the Germans have surface to air rockets in WW2? What are those supposed to be? A quick search brought me to the Taifun rocket though it states that that was never deployed operationally.

[@rrrgg7192]

Maybe 21cm air to air rocket www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DZVXCR56F4Pc&ved=2ahUKEwiXmKTIpISFAxVEmq8BHSauCo8QwqsBegQIDRAF&usg=AOvVaw36dd6Ai4-_YZqC9cZrXSsF

[@stevekaczynski3793]

No, as far as I know. German fighters, especially twin-engine ones, sometimes fired off a salvo of air-to-air rockets at bombers in formation. Not very accurate but sometimes they hit bombers and also disrupted formations.

[@unexpected_puns3029]

the germans had unguided anti air rockets in 1945 as a last ditch effort, at this time in the wat the german air force was gone@@stevekaczynski3793

[@AudieHolland]

German fighters could launch (or better, lob) missiles into US bomber formations, preferably from behind. As these rockets did not have any proximity fuses, they would detonate after a given time. Meaning that only expert Luftwaffe pilots like Galland were able to use these rockets effectively. If you launched them from the front, the rockets would probably go through the whole formation before exploding. These rockets did not fly well, which is why they were lobbed into the formations, falling through and losing altitude rapidly. I once read an account of an ace Luftwaffe pilot actually downing a P-51 with such a rocket, which seems unbelievable to me. *WWII US Bombers: Masters of the Air-Rocket Usage, shooting down bombers with questionable weapons and tactics*

[@stevo196two9]

If they’re going on the Berlin, those are probably those big giant concrete flat towers are fighting. Those things had 80 eights and 128 mm flack guns

[@namcat53]

"flat" towers?????? Try again.

[@Golden-dog88]

It was a good series but I felt this ep was slapped together

[@TheSocratesian]

Episodes 7 was bad, 8 completely sucked and 9 barely kept the show from a crash and burn. The first 6 episodes were really good though.

[@henryschmitt7577]

Shouldn’t these 17’s be G models?

[@stopmotionwarehouse8986]

If I remember correctly, the 100th still were stuck with older models

[@D.M.S.]

@@stopmotionwarehouse8986Yes

[@jacobpitts6846]

Yes but they built their expensive B17 set on an f model and clearly didn't want to change it all mid series

[@NickTasy]

@@stopmotionwarehouse8986Where did you see this?

[@NickTasy]

Also at the beginning you can see the USAAF roundel is still that of summer 1942-summer 1943

[@wallistag8888]

Oh yeah. My grandmother, my mother and her younger brothers we're under these glorious bomb carpets. They survived, but 650.000 children, wives, grandmothers and grandfathers did not. Meanwhile, all the soldiers were far away at the fronts.

[@augusttorres2943]

Don’t start wars you can’t win

[@DevSolar]

@@augusttorres2943 Don't be an ignorant arse if you don't have to. Might doesn't make right.

[@AudieHolland]

It is well that war is so terrible, otherwise we should grow too fond of it.

[@augusttorres2943]

@@DevSolar the deutschers overwhelmingly supported the war machine until the war came to them. Nice try clown.

[@s.l.9309]

​@@augusttorres2943Were you there or can you provide valid figures with a corresponding source? Thanks.

[@nigelshaw6289]

Were are the Bendix chin turrets lol

[@Chepstowion_Adventura]

1:15 - didn’t know surface to air missiles were thing in WW2, Germans must of been that advance.

[@s.l.9309]

Henschel Hs 297

[@user-se7xf8jj9u]

Смотрим продолжение в фильме Большая прогулка 1966 года

[@Queequeg61]

After while they ran out of things to bomb.

[@DannyoRaiden]

Instead of doing band of brothers 2...with could include some dogfights like this scene

[@user-ho1xk8dq5m]

Книга "Бомбардировщик" Лен Дейтон. Если интересно.

[@user-qj2in3ts4c]

There is no seasons. Just 9 episods.

[@PoochAndBoo]

Not Season one. It's the only season. Show's over.

[@Perfectblue33]

True. But it's still a season so i pointed that out. Thanks for your comment. Have a wonderful day!

[@tompiper9276]

Yup, uncontested.

[@David-ic4by]

Bare metal B-17Fs in 1945…and in the next scene, unicorns…

[@fidan2fast]

I don't get all the hate, It depebds on what you expect I guess

[@Melior_Traiano]

They should have consulted the company that made the airplane models used in the film "Aviator" in my humble opinion. Use the models together with CGI and real aircraft when possible.

[@MisterRorschach90]

If the plane is losing speed and altitude then why did the jumpers zoom the opposite direction so quickly? They would maintain the same momentum wouldnt they?

[@dongyschlontong-ck5xg]

Humans aren't as streamlined as planes.

[@silviamamanicondori3935]

como se llama la pelicula

[@geordiedog1749]

thats area bombing

[@Dastan_mpg]

This looks like an il2 sturmovik trailer

[@Perfectblue33]

Thanks for commenting. Have a wonderful day!

[@kevinh.4591]

which type of rocket were used by the germans from the ground? Wasserfall, Rheintocher etc. were bigger, right?

[@Perfectblue33]

There are two types. V-1 flying bomb and V-2 ballistic missile. Hope this info helps you. Thanks for commenting. Have a wonderful day!

[@user-do5zk6jh1k]

​@@Perfectblue33That wasn't helpful at all

[@user-do5zk6jh1k]

This is the rocket you're looking for en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taifun_(rocket)#:~:text=Taifun%20(German%20for%20%22typhoon%22,masse%20into%20Allied%20bomber%20formations.

[@Perfectblue33]

@@user-do5zk6jh1kthanks for helping out.

[@kevinh.4591]

@@user-do5zk6jh1k many thanks :) A little bit sad, that they used these prototype stuff for the movie. This is really the exact opposide of accurate.

[@DG-ho4qr]

Is this a movie?

[@Perfectblue33]

No. It's a 1 season show. Hope this helps. Have a wonderful day!

[@user-gl1oh2cp5e]

besides episode 7 there were some fantastic VFX given the subject matter. VASTLY better than Red Tails

[@Perfectblue33]

Thank you for your nice comment. Have a wonderful day!

[@phillydelphia8760]

Red tails was so bad that it isn't really a high bar to pass. There's been more moments than in episode 7 where the cgi was painful to look at imo, but the shots don't generally linger too long at least.

[@gary9346]

Considering Tuskeegee airmen barely showed up in the series this is a suspect comment at best. Not saying you have to lime the film red tails bit it was an action film not a historical retrospective

[@user-lo4bk2hf9z]

I mean consider Soviet was allied that time. Not surprised that vilable option for this bomber is to reach the eastern allied line. Not sure how many does Soviet forces encounter and rescue downed US airman during ww2

[@stevekaczynski3793]

At least one British airman had a Union Jack necklace made to wear on a late war mission, in case he had to bail out over Soviet-held territory. He did not want Red Army soldiers mistaking him for a bailed-out Luftwaffe airman.

[@user-lo4bk2hf9z]

​@@stevekaczynski3793 the probability of mistake that can cause accidental friendly fire quite high if you ask me, giving how most Soviet troops were conscript and not regular professional trained troop, they will randomly open fire anything that was up front of them.

[@DevSolar]

@@user-lo4bk2hf9z Uh... guess what, they were *all* conscripts by that time. British, German, Russian. Even most USA personnel by that time was drafted.

[@user-ho1xk8dq5m]

Здравствуйте. Как называется фильм? Сериал?

[@Moonstalker46]

хозяева воздуха. Однако я не уверен, что вы сможете посмотреть его в странах Евразии.

[@marianovaliente2103]

Saltar todos o morireis.el motor 1 y el 4 no funcionan y el 2 esta ardiendo!!!.

[@somwongbulipsurt7901]

Looks like the Berlin Tempelhof Airport

[@hustensaftjungling1239]

You're right, I work there in the old airport complex.

[@billponderosa88]

Why is elvis narrating?

[@charlesdubuc4169]

Not becaused u had the best plane thats for sure

[@nickdanger3802]

Goering "But in the beginning, we had not fully assessed the possibility of daylight bombers. Our fighters could not cope with them. When we were able to do so, there was a pause and then you sent them out with fighter escort. The Flying Fortress, for example, had more than we had anticipated. Our estimate was incorrect." LOST PRISON INTERVIEW WITH HERMANN GOERING: THE NAZI REICHSMARSCHALL’S REVELATIONS page

[@blankpage555]

where to watch for free

[@Perfectblue33]

Ask google.

[@Matt-cl4mp]

Judging by your words and your profile picture, I would assume you are Jewish?

[@Leo-eh8hm]

Soviet lines, not russian

[@kommentarepostenwill]

And now show me a series telling the story of my Grandfathers - "Flakhelfer Children" watching this Bombers comming in ;)

[@user-po8gh2mf3w]

Бедни лиоечик🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@SCS10000]

"Rockets .. ohh shit the SAMS opened fire" ...WHAT A CRAP! .. wasserfall never got fully operational

[@thebrother987]

Podrían Netflix o Disney poner este tipo de series, y no la mierda que ponen.....

[@user-qe6ru4sc7o]

A way to show that you are not the same as others is that you believe in Daddy God And it's just movie but that someday will be real blessings usa😢😢

[@user-ph6vc3nk8k]

B17

[@Perfectblue33]

Thanks for commenting. Have a wonderful day!

[@perrylockhartiv8003]

On top of the chin-less G models, the no Red take off/Red insignia landing blooper in Ep. 5, I just confirmed with a friend, throughout the series it's .30 cal shell casings and links all over the floor... not 50bmg. Sad.

[@annedejong1040]

No time for mourning the dead

[@Perfectblue33]

Thank you for commenting. Have a wonderful day!

[@JADEK111]

The last bombing scene of the show and even that didn't get much love to make it dramatic enough... As much as I think EP9 is a nice ending, still far from being memorable.

[@TheSocratesian]

They made up so much BS for episode 9 it really makes it hard to watch. The problem with the bombing scene is that the Germans never had ground to air rockets. They at least could have gotten that right.

[@JADEK111]

@@TheSocratesian The Germans actually did create mid-war and used anti-air rockets from fixed positions, I think it was called something with 297 in the name, iirc. So it's not completely inaccurate, although I'm not sure if they were used specifically in said bombing mission. But generally speaking, yeah, up to the point of EP9 there was nothing to expect anymore. End of the show, meaning the end of the war, so it was obvious.

[@TheSocratesian]

@@JADEK111 Actually there was a post war review of all German surface to air projects. One of which was the Wasserfall surface to air missile. The review concluded that the Germans were working on but never deployed them. If you have any documented instances of this type of weapon's use I would be very interested to see it.

[@TheSocratesian]

@@JADEK111 You are mistaken. They were close to developing one but it was never deployed according to the review of all German rocket programs after the war.

[@JADEK111]

@@TheSocratesianI'm not really knowledgeable on that part, but I guess the scene was made with no regards to historical accuracy, but rather for dramatic purposes only which is expected in a Hollywood production. Then again, they could have made the same dramatic effect with a flak gun directly hitting the B-17.

[@DD704Borie]

What are the fighters doing in the flak with the bombers?

[@AAAA19432]

👍

[@sneakurp]

Flew uncontested? Not true! There was the occasional group of He162s flown by rookies with 6 weeks of experience every now and then... Actually im kind of bummed that they didnt do at least 1 scene featuring a jet interception

[@thoralfhelmutson7953]

wie viele dieser Typen sind eigentlich drauf gegangen...... 🥳

[@AudieHolland]

*Life And Death In Bomber Command* (just Bomber Command, not including USAF figures) 57,205 The most dangerous were the first and last five trips. During the whole war, 51% of aircrew were killed on operations, 12% were killed or wounded in non-operational accidents and 13% became prisoners of war or evaders. Only 24% survived the war unscathed. USAF numbers were lower because the USA entered the war later, first US bombing mission over Europe was January 1943. Although the percentages mentioned above were probably similar.

[@nickdanger3802]

@@AudieHolland BC annual Losses for 43 and 44 were about double 42. RAF Berlin (most heavily defended airspace in the world) Air Offensive From November 43 to March 44. Freeman Dyson - Problems in bombing policy and aircraft design kzbin.info/www/bejne/oX2lc3xujNOlnM0

[@yveaux500]

Why show older B-17E/F's (1943 era) instead of the very different looking B-17G with the very distinctable chin turret under the nose which was used by the 100th in february 1945? Might sound like nitpicking but when you have all this historical research, money and CGI available why do such a sloppy inaccurate job? It downgrades the historical accuracy of the series.

[@kalnaren]

Budget. Everyone thinks CGI is super cheap -it isn't. Good CGI is very expensive. Still, I can forgive it. People nitpick this series something fierce. Nobody gives Band of Brothers shit for using a dressed up T-34 as a Tiger.

[@alexwilliamson1486]

@@kalnarenBut it “looked” like a Tiger 1, these B 17 Fs are supposed to look like “G” which they should be…at this time in the war…it’s just completely wrong…

[@kalnaren]

@@alexwilliamson1486 It didn't look like a Tiger if you know what a Tiger looks like. Road wheels were wrong, turret location was wrong, all the proportions were wrong. Masters of the air certainly isn't historical documentary levels of detail, but it seems to get ragged on a heck of a lot more than it deserves (Band of Brothers had a lot of inaccuracies in it as well, even a few things the book got wrong, too, but no one seems to care). As WW2 aviation themed shows/movies go it's nowhere near the worst offender. The CGI isn't even that bad. Short of Hollywood blockbusters like Top Gun 2 there isn't much better out there (and some -like Midway and Pearl Harbour -a hell of a lot worse). I can forgive them using B-17F where Gs should have been used... at least they got the planes right. That's more than a lot of TV shows or movies do (Dunkirk used Spitfire Mk.Vs when they should have been Mk.Is.. nobody cares).

[@yveaux500]

@@kalnaren the tank in BoB was not important to the story. The B-17’s are actually part of the main story for MotA. And this is the most expensive production of a tv series ever. Money was not an issue.

[@Adrian-lc6jq]

Dumb movie at that altitude they dont require oxyen mask

[@ronlucock3702]

"In the sky, the 8th Air Force flew uncontested." Yeah, except for all those black puffs of smoke popping off everywhere that were about to knock you out of the sky.

[@esajuhanirintamaki965]

Und die Jagdflieger auch?

[@user-mb3my9fz7u]

What name of the aircraft pls 😢

[@Some_Guy_6]

B-17.

[@user-dv1rg7oq5r]

Это вам не беззащитный сербов бомбить , немцы вам зубы то пообломали .

[@nickdanger3802]

Julius Meimberg, Battle of Britain Luftwaffe veteran said, ‘It’s all exaggerated, Churchill succeeded in creating this myth that so few did so much for so many. When you look at how we fought against the Americans later, the Battle of Britain was very little in comparison.’

[@EuroRus2024]

Вот вот, хотели Киев за три дня, а уже скоро как три года червей кормите.

[@user-up3cg5bd5z]

я не хочу дивитись про смерть.,наглу

[@hawnyfox3411]

^ " Silver, as in SILVER (N.M.F) Boeing B.17-'F's in 1945 " ????? About as NON REALISTIC as "Pink 1973 Mach.1 Mustangs" in the F'kn Steve McQueen film "Bullitt"

[@FirstMilitia434]

what overbearing CGI. How'd they manage to do a better job in the 1980s with Memphis Belle...

[@notfromthisworld7672]

This CGI is totally overbearing, but the "Memphis Belle" was worse and that movie really sucks. Such cheesy acting in it!

[@FirstMilitia434]

But wouldn't one expect worse CGI in a movie from the 1980's? At least they had the excuse for it to look cheesy@@notfromthisworld7672 And quite frankly both have cheesy acting! lol However Masters of the Air will never be "a classic"

[@barrywilliams6596]

Disappointed in how many inaccuracies in this movie even with CGI help - natural metal finish on B-17F's ? Not even close to reality! 😞

[@nigelshaw6289]

They cheaped out on the cgi too, it's like dollarama cgi

[@Katwiccan]

This was so expensive to make HBO bailed. They couldn't even make the series until recently because the technology wasn't available. They had to build three planes because there's none available anymore in flying condition. They filmed these things by doing a 360 surround of the cockpit so it was all the actors could see outside around them.

[@PoochAndBoo]

This series bounced around from terrific, to pretty bad. The terrific parts show what this could have been. The bad parts, like the Tuskeegee airman scenes, brought it down a few notches. Just my opinion, of course.

[@Daveymeijer]

What happens tho them is they lands in Russian territory ?

[@Perfectblue33]

They are taking them to a prison camp. where they helped with escaping.

[@georgeofhamilton]

Why would the American airmen be taken as prisoners?

[@tallleprechaun1318]

@@georgeofhamilton Russia wasn't a good ally. Look at all the mini skirmishes and other issues that arose when the Allies and USSR met

[@windwindy5356]

More like communication issue between the top.

[@Perfectblue33]

Yeah. He get rescued by the Russians. Thanks for your comment. Have a wonderful day!

[@johnhanson9245]

Well.....Is Masters of the Air true or not? You did not answer your own question

[@skunkstripe6074]

Masters of the Ass

[@jckoibra2662]

Lmao idk what you mean by that but okay 😂

[@IngFede1]

They are literally killing civilians and the series depitc them as hero.

[@louisburke8927]

This show is so boring

[@Perfectblue33]

To each his own mate. Thanks for your comment. Have a wonderful day!

[@PB-gk1vh]

This show was such a disappointment. 75% soap opera nonsense with bad acting and writing.

[@josephcardona8046]

What a disappointment after having seen the last episode! From the first episode, I was waiting for an episode, just one episode, totally devoted to the art of dogfighting. I was hoping to see combat scenes that would surpass those we saw in Michael Bay's Peral Harbor or Red Tails by George Lucas. In my opinion, the producers tried to focus on the different stories of the characters, but they did not succeed because they lacked much more time to develop them. In the end, neither the best fights nor the best story. What a waste of resources!!!

[@FirewallFilms1]

This series was never about dogfighting. How many dogfights happened with B-17s? lol

[@donadams8345]

This was about a different aspect of aerial warfare that didn't include dogfighting. Bombers were not built to dogfight. You obviously need to educate yourself.

[@AudieHolland]

US fighter pilots who flew during World War II recollected there was pretty much no dogfighting at all. The smallest element in any fighter formation was the pair, one leader, one wingman., The leader would seek out targets to attack. The wingman's duty was to stay on his leader's wing at all times. Usually it was just hit an run. Spot a lone, unsuspecting enemy fighter, get on his six and let him have a short, accurate burst and he went down before he realized he was being attacked. If, however, you missed your target and decided to turn the hit and run into a dogfight, you were now without the element of surprise, speed decreasing and probably attracting your enemy's mates. And while you were busy turning and diving, trying to get that SOB in your sights, probably you yourself ended up in the gun sights of an enemy fighter whom you weren't even paying any attention to. So it was mostly hit and run, all the while staying in formation (element of two planes).

[@pac1fic055]

Show lost steam halfway and got boring. It should have been 4 episodes max. The air battles were unrealistic - you don’t hit a fighter with a measly 0.50 cal and immediately explodes. I really wanted to like it, but it was a disappointment.

[@yveaux500]

What a dissapointment this series was. The characters are too cliche and the CGI is just horrible. And why the strange side step with the Tuskegee Airmen?? It added nothing to the series and did not fit into the story at all. Fighters based in Italy vs bombers based in England??? Was this to make the series more inclusive??

[@blakemurray1218]

Stopped watching after episode 3

[@anonymousyt8027]

I felt the same way too. The Tuskege Airman plot seemed like an afterthought just for inclusivity's sake.

[@D.M.S.]

Can't follow you with any of the complains, except one. I also wanted to see more Tuskegee. It was a fascinating story. I thought we see fights against jets, damn it! One episode more! That was all I asked. Why just nine? On the other hand. They were lucky the shows was even made. The Pacific was a financial flop, HBO has only eyes for Dragons nowadays and Apple took it more or less, because it was almost done. The show was almost axed even though it was fully filmed.

[@rinofrancisco8752]

Episodes 1-7 were ok in my opinion even with the stars wars like battle between the escorts and the luftwaffe. The letdown was the inclusion of the Tuskegee Airmen. If the producers think they need to make it an inclusive air war, there were already two movies made about the 332nd FG. Aside from the fictionalized story lines in Episodes 8 and 9. DEI strikes again and in the process dishonors the Red Tails.

[@lonzo61]

Again, lousy, inaccurate CGI work. None of the Mustangs that I can see have contrails. I know that it's a minor error, but too many things are bothersome about the clips I have seen. I may watch an episode to give the series a chance, but I just am not at all enthused about it. I even hate the title of this series....and the book. Maybe my expectations were just too high, and that no one could or would deliver. With a big budget and a required ROI, one cannot expect to see this chapter of US involvement in the war done right. Instead, mythology is created, and it's bad mythology at that. The real thing is infinitely more interesting. I was born in 1961, so I grew up surrounded by these guys who served in the war. They were my dad, my uncles, neighbors, guys at the barber shop, guys in town, guys all over the USA working at businesses and factories. NFL coach Tom Landry flew B-17s, and we all knew it, but no one made a big deal over it--because everyone served! And nowadays, they are venerated as gods and called Masters of the Air. What bullshit. It was just so common for me to talk to these men and, if they were willing, they would sometimes reveal some parts to me about their wartime experiences. Rarely, they spoke in an animated way about it, but it was damned fascinating when they did. And I always felt a small rush when they talked to me, a then boy or teen or young man in his twenties. But, Hollywood tends to turn real life events and real people into caricatures. And god how I hate it!!! But then, maybe that is what the paying public wants. Or maybe that is what the creators just do by default, and the price is that the real story and the realities are turned into glossy myth. To that end, I say that I will stick to the books and my memories of the guys who showed me their scars, their photos albums, their souvenirs, and told me in a spare way their stories.......and leave it at that. Most movies cannot match that, nor do these experiences justice. On a more positive note, there have been a few compelling scenes that look pretty good. Compared to old war movies done after the war and through the 1980s, I will admit that there are things that can be done now that could not be done decades ago. Watching Memphis Bell is just such an example. The air scenes just don't look good at all. The CGI here tops that and tops anything but the real thing. Still, there are just too many shortcomings with the technology. Either that, or the creators just don't know how to get certain details right due to lack of knowledge. That might actually be a shortcoming of technical advisors. Or the technology still needs more tweaking and refinement. Check six.

[@lonzo61]

@@namelastname1085 Well put. BTW, there is a content creator here on youtube called WW2.US.Bombers. He is really good on technical details, weapons, tactics, etc on the USAAF use of bombers over Europe, over the Atlantic, and over the Pacific. He mentions some of the inaccuracies of MOTA since its release in some of his most recent vids. He talks about how the Mustangs in one scene is incredibly inaccurate in specific terms: far too many were shown (he gives specifics of how exactly many Mustangs flew that particular mission (and he even counted how many he saw in this particular scene), along with P-47s and P-38s also acting as escorts for that mission, and how absurdly close the escorts were flying to the bombers. It really looked awful to me when I watched the clip. I mean, it was immediately noticeable! Escorts in reality flew very specific positioning relative to the bombers to achieve best protection, but to also prevent being shot at by bomber crews! Even though I don't have the level of expertise that this fellow has, I have seen so many inaccuracies that I wonder who the hell acted as technical advisors, and just how accurate the book was. There are so, so many books written on this subject, and why it is that this particular book was used for the story telling is befuddling to me. Maybe it is because of its recency. I dunno.

[@TheC1kabar]

Almost 10 years to make this show and it generally sucked. Nice job Hollywood.

[@JohnSmith-pm4ul]

Show sucked

[@georgeorwell9867]

From Ep1 to Ep9, just an awful, awful show...

[@BeeOppresion]

Really?

[@georgeorwell9867]

@@BeeOppresionYes... really...

[@subasurf]

This show looks absolutely awful. The vfx are embarrassingly bad.

[@Crackerjuice75]

Can't wait for your show to come out, I'm sure it'll be much better

[@tonykeith76]

P-51 still flying close to the bombers.. Surface-to-air missiles never used... P-51 attack prisoners column in the night? Really? And in the darkness a colored pilot realize that the plane was a P-51.. He had infrared/thermical eyes? This serie is the biggest collection of aerial warfare bullshit... 🤣

[@catfeeder5306]

You couldn’t even say it was the engine sound as so many aircraft had Merlin engines.

[@stopmotionwarehouse8986]

You’re clearly a TikTok made historian, and it shows. Quit hating with your idiotic flaws

[@stopmotionwarehouse8986]

@@catfeeder5306it was actually the engine, because it’s exhaust and characteristics were so recognizable, there’s literal interviews of vets saying they instantly recognize the sound. And btw, there were usually escort groups and then squadrons that were responsible for taking ground

[@TheMinipily]

P-51's are easily recognizable in the dark, they have a very very distinctive engine sound and whistle from the gunports unlike any other. Not sure where you're seeing surface to air missiles but air to air rockets were definitely a thing in WW2 and used quite extensively by the Germans.

[@scott8908]

🤓 No show is going to be 100% accurate. Band of Brothers had inaccuracies. Btw, the p51 attacking the “prisoner column” at night actually happened. Watch the documentary on the 100th

[@williamsnell2078]

useless series

[@GhostBravo3-1]

Then don't watch it then instead you keep yapping in the comment section about it.

[@RoyalDog214]

Useless user.

[@williamsnell2078]

okay karen@@GhostBravo3-1

[@GhostBravo3-1]

@@williamsnell2078 about time you replied, and you just wasted my time typing the most overrated insults in the internet get better insults unless you just wanted some attention. HAHAHAHA im not even mad just disappointed

[@williamsnell2078]

if someone want anything but attention is you@@GhostBravo3-1

[@thenoobyoufckinghate9814]

I've been watching clips of this show and I'm thinking about picking up apple tv for a mouth just to watch it. But the amount of negativity and outright hostility in the comments is staggering. Yeah okay, the CGI isn't amazing but does it tell a good story and is it (more or less) accurate?

[@DevSolar]

That's what the negative comments are mostly about -- it's telling a rather inaccurate and one-sided story, going for action / eye candy instead. There is a lot that's unrealistic about the air combat scenes, and from what I've seen from the clips, only one sequence actually shows the other side of the murderous Allied bombings, and even that mostly in passing. The usual white-washed Hollywood fan service.

[@gautierlefelon4150]

Did you enjoyed the clip you watched ? If yes, go for the show :) Don't listen to negatives comments on KZbin, it's a great show. It's not 9 episodes of bombing Raid, I learned a lot of stuff thanks to the show.

[@gary9346]

Negative folks all in this genre unfortunately. Lots of sour, bitter folks.

[@shinichi1367]

Xoviet not russia......:))))

[@iiiiiiD]

Воевали на чужой войне развязанной чужими руками за интересы своих капиталистов, все как обычно.

[@nickdanger3802]

Lend Lease approved for CCCP one month before Germany declared war on the USA.