MATA with Mihingarangi Forbes | Season 2 | Jackson on Treaty Principles and Pharmac | RNZ

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Former Minister for Māori Development Willie Jackson shares his views on the upcoming Treaty Principles Bill, Seymour's Pharmac Treaty directive.
Made with the support of NZ On Air & Te Māngai Pāho.

[@matthewrikihana6818]

I'm unconvinced getting Willy's partisan opinion helps. His explination of the Triti Principles Bill hara missfocuses the public's attention on the politics rather than its attack on Aotearoa's constitutional basis. It is te tiriti which is stopping the wealthy few taking full control of NZ politics from behind the scenes. Consulting the treaty partner is a check and balance against those with rampant wealth.

[@jemma_19988]

Willie is one of the wealthy few lives in massive house worth millions paid for by taxpayers

[@Duckz558]

yeah i reckon if it wasn’t for te tiriti o waitangi Aotearoa would be gone already but the abuse on maori won’t stop till theirs a change i guess for good or worse

[@LWJCarroll]

13:50. Fyi a 68 year old Pakeha here and I too have my mind around and support Te Tiriti. Laurie Carroll ! 😊

[@mauriora5489]

Cmore using the ishraeel play book. bought and paid for by the you know whos

[@djpomare]

Co-governance is in the treaty. Brits replaced rangatiratanga (run by local chiefs) into sovereignty (run by UK royals). The treaty house was set on fire but the treaty document still exists showing the details along with its burnt frayed edges. We've tried the colonial system for a hell of a long time and now is the time to give the actual documented deal a fair go.

[@tonygee3284]

Dismantle the treaty. Close it down now

[@paulmeersa7162]

What special right is there for Maori - over and above everybody else Willy..? Show me where that is please.

[@mobbarley7517]

Maori wards maori seats, during covid they got priority to get vaccinated

[@paulmeersa7162]

@@mobbarley7517 Indeed, the special treatment they get is not because they have a right to it.

[@Duckz558]

@@paulmeersa7162 wards are accentual participating in negotiations with councils and local iwi’s i would say makes sense

[@SimoneMcAllister-l3h]

What special rights do you have. Those in need are maaori and pasifika, so where is the equality in the statistics. Statistically pakeha nzers are the beneficiaries of their so called equality. Youre simply delusional to believe the ridiculous lie that pakeha are disadvantaged by maaori. In fact pakeha have only benefited from maaori , having seemingly forgotten they are here because they were landless peasants in their respective origin countries.

[@LWJCarroll]

How was this condition put in place in the first place? So wondering if that prevents what Seymour has tried to do. ?

[@paulmeersa7162]

Show me where the word "partnership" appears in the Treaty Willy.

[@tommcg7564]

What is a Treaty? A treaty is a "partnership" between states. Duh

[@josephl9619]

​@@tommcg7564treaty - a formally concluded and ratified agreement between countries. Oxford dictionary

[@josephl9619]

​@@tommcg7564A partnership and an agreement are related concepts, but they refer to different aspects of business and legal relationships. Partnership: It's when people or businesses join together to run something, like a company. They share the work, the profits, and the problems. Agreement: This is like a set of rules or promises that everyone in the partnership agrees to. It talks about things like who does what, how money gets shared, and how decisions are made. So, a partnership is the team itself, and the agreement is the rulebook they all agree to follow while working together. 197 views Upvote Related questions (More answers below)

[@paulmeersa7162]

@@tommcg7564 Partnership is not a word that exists in the Treaty. Could you be confusing "Making a Deal" with "Treaty?" The deal was the crown is sovereign and Maori become British subjects, something people walk over hot coals for even today. The other part of the deal was IF and only IF Maori want to sell their land they can only sell it to the Crown. That is the Treaty, nothing else, there is no partnership, the word does not even appear in there, yet Sovereignty does - twice. Maori ancestors were very very cleaver in asking the Crown for this, for they turned the "Hell Hole of the Pacific" into the wealthiest country on earth per head of population in only 120 short years after the Treaty was signed. That is quite some achievement and shows Maori elders were certainly not stupid to cede sovereignty to the Crown.

[@adriandocherty778]

If the crown only had sovereignty and Maori didn’t. Only the crown could’ve ceded sovereignty because by your logic Maori didn’t have sovereignty?? Where is sovereignty in te tititi?

[@paulmeersa7162]

He does have the right to do so, he is Government, voted in by a democracy, and there is no breach of the Treaty in doing so, not at all. And if you think there is show me what part of the Treaty exactly is he in breach of...

[@iansmith9706]

Willy ( his name suits him)

[@jemma_19988]

I support the treaty but nowhere does it state a partnershp

[@paulmeersa7162]

You are not a Treaty "partner", there is no such thing, you are a subject of the British Crown just like everybody else. If you think there is show me where please, I'd like to see it.

[@mikebarton]

Good piece RNZ.

[@stevecooper9896]

Te Tiriti hi iwi tahi tatou. Jail supremacy seperatist divider traitor corrupted Willy Jackson, aye...

[@ducker09]

This relation is nothing but a embarrassment to our tribe 😮

[@JasonPryde-xi1mu]

Look forward to a non racism statement/statements Willy Jackson…. Get some real @ fact for Māori, more importantly NZ. Next election for you and say!

[@ducker09]

Blaa blaa blaa . The view of a 3/4 caste english man .😮

[@MaryAda-wj3dy]

Nz is a democracy. We are entitled to our opinion. Boycotting is bollocks in my point of veiw. Its not going to fix anything

[@seanpindred]

Most dangerous person nz politics is willie no lies jackson .. lol what a joke Willie

[@josephl9619]

Typical rnz. Does a long form programme on this issue and only interviews people on one side. But no bias according to them. rubbish radio

[@Stoneynz]

Why can't we all be equal Willy ??? Average age at death for Maori when European arrived was 35, so improving. This country has not got enough money for more than the basics for healthcare but improving all the time lately and doing the best we can with the little $ left after our costs . Jacinda seemed to like buying friends and left a huge bill for this country to pay.

[@petertrott5107]

Boycott okay c ya

[@MaryAda-wj3dy]

What a load of bollocks. I applaud David Seymour on his stand. I am sick to death of the unjustified arrogant stand of elite racist activist Maori and the opportunistic and overly self entitled attitudes of willy. NZ should be trying to make life equal for all NZers not giving one race priority over the other 159 cultures. Willy's spin is the ugly view when he wants to give one race priority. What is needed is education, self responsibility and iving a healthy lifestyle. Put the blame where the blame lays.

[@johnnyp3161]

Agree. By not addressing the true cause of there issues, they will never solve there problems. These brown supremacists have a massive negative effect on maori.

[@LWJCarroll]

Rubbish imo. Some people just cannot stand having to abide by the fact of having The Treaty of Waitangi nor Te Tiriti. imo. Laurie 😊