ALCAIDE VS RAGA | FINAL | Highlights | 2023 European Open Pool Championship

[@dsauce223]

Boy, they both deserved this title. Raga has balls of steel to go for that shot with the title on the line. It was masterful how he put that 7 in front of the side pocket though.

[@sociologie4507]

What a healthy sport nine ball is at the moment. So many players with so much class and sportmanship. Excellent for the game. Good job David.

[@MengingatALLAH]

Raga was really trying to make his name so far. Atleast he succed to make it to the final. What a guy

[@arielmi78]

Funny how in Spain they never talk about billiards having 2 of the most talented players in the circuit. Well deserved for Alcaide, he seems like a nice guy and I have never seen him doing any arrogant moves like many others. And big Kudos to Raga. I am sure he will be winning many tournaments in the future. I think he just got a bit over pumped there in the end, which is quite understandable. In any case, landing the second spot on your first appearance in a major tournament is not something many can say... Bright future for the Filipino...

[@cebuanostud]

One thing about Raga, he is not scared to shoot his shot to oblige his run pattern. Raga has that gambler's mentality - takes chances for glory when everything is at stake, and it showed in that last rack. Ma-man is fearless. No doubt he will be a world champion. 🐲

[@dirkswish31]

So why didn't he shoot the open ball 35:05?

[@yuchub7389]

35:05 yes are all confused why he choose safety instead of cleanup??

[@barrybarbarian2518]

​@@yuchub7389Because Anton Raga is the best

[@yuchub7389]

@@barrybarbarian2518 has has twice the chance to win the title

[@barrybarbarian2518]

@@yuchub7389 Yes. Maybe he wasn't want to grabe the opportunity

[@Joseph-xi5bt]

Play the percentages. That was the correct shot selection. Imperfect execution caused the miss. Raga is very talented and young and would likely win a major title in the future . Hope he has the positive attitude to move forward from this heart breaking defeat. He was so close

[@kurida7]

People don't realise it. That was definitely the right shot. Haters kept saying he could have made the six to the side pocket but they don't realise the margin of error for that. Fools running their mouths like they are better than the one playing in the final.

[@napostrophen]

@@kurida7yeah. All the typical bar players talking about slow rolling it in when the cut is ridiculous and it turns into a blind pocket shot😂

[@Joseph-xi5bt]

@@kurida7the safety on the 2 ball the rack before though? That shot on fhe two seems pretty doable for a player of his caliber. Tight landing spot on the 4 ball and maybe some traffic to navigate but the runout was there for the taking.

[@kurida7]

@@Joseph-xi5bt yeah I agree. Raga should have won rack 24. That was a very doable run out so the safety on the 2 was questionable. I dunno, maybe he saw something we didn't. But obviously it didn't pan out for him.

[@michaeltrumph121]

Fuck the percentages, I hate players who play like that, it's boring as fuck. That is why pool has such low prize money, people are not interested in watching a borefest. Players should go for crazy attacking shots and spin that cueball with as many cushions as possible.

[@Akilraham1469]

Alcaide has been Spain's one of the best pro pool players for a very long time. Veteran Alcaide won the gold but had a hardtime with much younger Raga.

[@EQUALIZER6427]

Raga’s run in this tournament impressed me. An unranked player going down the wire with one of the best in the world in Alcaide

[@Joseph-xi5bt]

He’s known to be one of the best filipino players for quite a while now. Many talented filipino pool players but dont get into the rankings just because they dont join internationally sanctioned competitions. Right now raga’s fargo world ranking is 4th in the world.

[@minorrojasgarcia1753]

Felicitaciones para ambos jugadores. Una final espectacular, cualquiera de los dos hubiese sido digno campeón.

[@chino1619]

Congrats gihapon bai. Padayon lang, maabot ra nimo puhon ang kadaugan. We Cebuanos right now are very proud of you! ❤

[@BosKillah]

Ganda ng translation ahh

[@marklopez2484]

Benta laro bai rack 24 tira dos

[@davidhunternyc1]

Wow! Incredibly exciting and nail biting. Too bad there was no way to watch the full match, even after I paid to watch this on Matchroom. This is terrible for the game of pool, that fans and viewers can't access these matches, even when willing to pay. Still, I was hoping Alcaide would win, only because people were doubting him. In the end, Raga lost the match with the 6-ball miss in the final rack. It was his to win. He's such a talent though. He'll have many major titles in his future. I bow to both players.

[@rubenleary8812]

in my country i had to get a free trial of a different sport streaming service to watch it for the very last day. i almost cried when witnessing the 6 ball miss XD

[@davidhunternyc1]

@@rubenleary8812 Yeh, that 6-ball miss was brutal. I almost cried too. What gets me angry is we are constantly telling Matchroom and Nineball that it's impossible to watch these final matches. Emily sits in her ringside seat oblivious to the hoops us viewers have to jump through to watch. It's utterly frustrated. We are left to watching the highlight reel on KZbin. Was the streaming service Dazn? Because sometimes it works, sometimes not.

[@sociologie4507]

I was willing to pay yesterday for Canada but the website is not straigh-forward, like they don't know how to make it crystal clear how it all works. Its a shame cause they are clearly putting high-high quality events all around the world for multiple sports, just not really dialed in atm about paywall watching. A shame.

[@arthursaulda9608]

What a great match of these two.Congratulations to both of you!

[@louiem2]

So gutted for Raga, he had this match in his grasp more than once and just couldn't get over the line. He'a got everyones attention now though in the pool world, and ahould only be a matter of time before he picks up a WNT title 🔥

[@emsnewssupkis6453]

He is over 100 positions below Alcaide so his rise to this game is monumental! He is the future winner!

[@Bread_Garlichouse]

Alcaide did the same too. It's just that he eventually won.

[@hategamblingsos]

@@emsnewssupkis6453ranking doesnt mean much bro. It base on your result of previous European open.

[@politicfrog]

Pool ranking still matters? Haha it's everybodys game in pool. Pool Ranking are overrated coz they basically plays more rank tournaments than the other players. Filipinos always expose this ranking. Lmao

[@TimDEagle]

Nice match. Would've loved Raga to win. Pool is better when Filipinos win

[@jabeesguerra4898]

0:20 The way Raga switches to his game face. 🔥

[@Pakdhe4663]

Penampilan yang baik dari Anton...sangat luar biasa... Jika David menang pun saya tak heran karena David sudah sering mengikuti kompetisi dunia.. Sudah terbiasa suasana dan tekanan yang ada dibanding Anton.. Dan David tak sia-siakan 1 kesalahan Anton untuk memenangkan kejuaraan... Selamat buat kedua orang itu...

[@davidprimadani]

@dwinugraha9630 salah satu pemain philip muda yg aku fans..... pertama kali aku liat dia lawan reyes pas kalah....

[@Pakdhe4663]

@@davidprimadani Kadang karakternya agak mirip dengan biado tapi anton tak terlalu banyak berpikir dan bimbang dalam mengambil keputusan.. Jadi tak terlalu memgganggu fokus dan rasa percaya dirinya..

[@ahaoahao4243jgjgugjgj]

Main agak kurang tenang.padahal juara,ya mau gmna lagi

[@Pakdhe4663]

@@ahaoahao4243jgjgugjgj bisa dimaklumi.. Mungkin akan beda jika sudah sering ikut kompetisi tingkat dunia seperti yang lainnya.. Dengan kondisi seperti sekarang saja dia sudah bisa runner up.. Itu pencapaian luar biasa

[@sakayulius8115]

Biado koq gak ikut ya

[@renatofermin5055]

SAYANG Kabayan Anton..! ikaw sana ang kampeon sa laban ninyo ni Alcaide..! Kng pinag isipan mo lamang maigi ung tira mo sa 6 ball..! Nag apura ka dahil may oras. Kaya mo naman sa side pocket un ihulog kng bkit pinakiss mo pa sa 7ball..! Minsan tlga ns huli ang pagsisisi... sila Efren Bata nga at Dyango Bustamante nagkakamali rin..! Proud pa rin kami sayo Anton Raga.! Better Luck Next Time na Lang👍🙏

[@pabloiglesias3323]

Grande Alcaide! Es un fenómeno desde hace muchos años. Un placer haberlo visto jugar hace muchos años en un campeonato de España en Jaén y ya era una proeza de bola 9. Me alegro que le haya ido así de bien. Elegante y buen chaval.

[@bradersshamopakhoyaseel8968]

If the pinoy didn't do excivision in 7, he should be the champion, there's still 7, for me he's the winner

[@oponamikwe5011]

Well done Alcaide. You finally got it

[@RaulitoTabat]

Sayang idol...proud gihapon ko nimo naka abot ka sa championship bawi na lang next tournament..

[@mervynmontague1811]

Excellent coverage 🇯🇲🍾

[@MrAntonnio96]

Damm feel bad for Raga but Alcaide is a beast never gives up Congratulations El Matador

[@esadcerimagic]

Dobar, neizvjestan i uzbudljiv meč.Mogao se i drugačije završiti.Ali potpuno zaslužena pobjeda Davida.SVE ČESTITKE BRAVOOO ZA ŠAMPIONA 👍👍🇧🇦🇧🇦 HVALA MATCHROOM ❤❤❤❤❤

[@Nolialcaide]

Are you my cosen daved

[@kurida7]

Congrats to David. What a thrilling final match. Bravo Raga. Only a fool would not tremble facing you, Dragon. Your time will come

[@santocarbone1130]

A lesson that will help Raga win many future world events. Raga will be more relaxed as he gets used to playing on Diamond Tables.

[@vincephan344]

I felt like Raga could've floated that 6 clean into the side pocket on the last rack, plenty of angle. Tough loss, he had this match won. Edit: I went and try this exact setup and it’s nearly impossible to get it in. Tried many times and it kept hanging up on the edge and won’t drop. However if you play the kiss 7 like he did, it was doable but had to give it some speed to ricochet in.

[@ciao259]

Yess .i dont understand why he use 7 ball, not straight cut the 6 ball into the middle pocket?? A strange choice.....this mistakes made him loss the title....however Raga will be no 1 in the world..i believe !!

[@mikeebenjamin8149]

same thoughts too but the moment camera pans in to the side pocket i believe it requires extreme precision to pocket the six thus the carom option is too damn tempting. But either way both option are tough to execute it is just a matter of which is more comfortable

[@Joseph-xi5bt]

Tight blind pocket if straight to the side. I feel he chose the right shot just ultimately missed it.

[@hategamblingsos]

Too tight for the side. His idea is very good but unlucky

[@vincephan344]

@@Joseph-xi5bt I’ve made tighter side pockets than that. And the cue would naturally drift down for position on the 7. I’m going to the pool hall today to recreate this to see if it’s doable like I think.

[@davidprimadani]

congratulation 🇪🇸DAVID ALCAIDE🇪🇸...... Spirit 🇵🇭ANTON "the dragon" RAGA🇵🇭.. You to are the best🙋👍👍👍

[@HaTran-vs5ds]

Rack 24-pool2 Rack 25-pool 6/7 Raga semi-degrees

[@bledzone231]

Congratulations David. Deserved to win the European title… Congratulations to Anton Raga as runner up.. Well done both players…

[@michaeltrumph121]

Alcaide is a boring methodical percentage player.

[@bledzone231]

@@michaeltrumph121 Whatever you said, he still a champion on that event..

[@michaeltrumph121]

@@bledzone231 Yes, but players like him are the reason pool is dying as a sport, they bore audiences to death

[@bledzone231]

@@michaeltrumph121 Stop being a hater, and respect whoever wins the event..

[@michaeltrumph121]

@@bledzone231 No.

[@MRelix]

Alcaide lucky rolls in last rack were next level. Congratz still.

[@enokinoy1762]

😂😂😂

[@Darkkillaz090507]

Lucky?

[@chazzyboy21]

I love what Matchroom is doing for pool, but this format for uploading videos is not ideal. There are other channels already posting finals highlights an hour ago... we all know who won before this dropped. I'm sure they can find another way to do it in the future.

[@Itsmetheguy7]

There is another way. Pay for Dazn if you're in the us and watch it live

[@djayuzzsyubakir6471]

It's just a business. Not everything you can get for free in this world.

[@chazzyboy21]

@joelvelazquez7624 I don't need to watch it live, I'm fine with the KZbin highlights. But Matchroom puts in on KZbin in hopes of getting views to make more money off it which makes sense. They've done well with previous opens, but this is the first where they've done delayed releases and I don't think it benefits them. They're losing viewers to channels who already posted highlights and results. Also, spoiling the end of the semifinals by posting the thumbnail for the finals match too early. I think you've misconstrued my original comment as me personally being upset, I am not. I'm simply saying I don't think business wise this format was best for them.

[@chazzyboy21]

@djayuzzsyubakir6471 I mean I did watch the finals for free, so I'm not entirely sure of the purpose of your comment. All I was saying was Matchroom is losing money due to losing viewers because other channels already had the results/highlights up an hour before they did. People could find out in 20 minutes what Matchroom was making them wait hours for. Just don't think business wise they made the best decision.

[@gilbertmedina4278]

Congrats,,I still believe what you have chosen...Safety first...I like the mentality of Raga, he is just like efren not afraid of doing something that he thinks what is right...Go go go...

[@jonnycarroll6676]

Fantastic final both gentlemen, Dragon giving notice of his possession of the top tier and fearlessness, but David Alcaide has again given a pressure filled distribution of supremacy! This is the year of the Matador.

[@mhel933]

congratulations champ alcaide and also congratulations sir anton raga for making in the finals 9ball Europe Championship with a good fight👏🎉

[@leonardo-2008]

As asian people i will support Raga, greeting from Indonesia.

[@MrNhamor]

I know its hard lost for Raga pero dyan sya matututo pag dating sa mga future battle pa nya.. Magaling naman sya for sure magiging champion din yan sa mga tournament na sslihan nya.. God bless

[@narioorallo7412]

Anton should have played safety on the six ball. But anyway Congratulation Anton for making it to the final.Pilipnos are proud of you 👏👏👏

[@1215314]

Any idea what is the track playing in the opening sequence ?

[@suoppi]

The shot at 40:12. If Raga had played that with topspin instead. He would have won the tournament. Objectball took just enough of topspin from the contact to make it miss the pocket.

[@ceedee2025]

mr .raga final rack ,,the colateral damage shot ball 6,the best u do,safety shot,,,,🖐️🤟👍👌🙌💥🤕

[@edgarmagsipoc9864]

saludo pa rin ako sa yong performance idol,sa sunod pang mga laban makukuha mo rin yan world title na yan.kinulang lang ng konti atin na sana ang title.

[@RichardsWorld]

Raga is at least 10 times better than me, but it isn't hard to see that he should keep his body more still during the shot.

[@Stonefalconetti]

Only ten times? You are THAT good?......

[@RichardsWorld]

@@Stonefalconetti started playing in the late 1980's, how about you? What were you doing in the late 1980's?

[@paulangelojacinto8761]

Gwapo sana plano muh dun sa pakiss kaya lng sumablay idol dbali bata kapa marami ka pang tournament na pagwawagihan congrats pa rin anton

[@1202nparvus]

This will be a lesson for Raga. He played like a chess player, made a bad move and was checked mated.

[@FrancisMalinao-qr2he]

Okay rana bai,ana man gyud na di tanan panahon daog ta ang importante dawat tas ato kapildihan ,good job.

[@fajarpurnomo5720]

Raga hoki sampai final 😂

[@jedsalcedo9567]

Sayang gnda ng laro ni kabayan inalat lng 😮

[@nokhmanmustapha9698]

Congrats prin sayo Anton Raga,,Sayang nga Lang,dpt side pocket n yung 6,pero Ok n yung umabot k ng Finals,bawi nxt

[@myrovelasquez9810]

Tama ka rekta sideball lakas pocketing taas niya di nya ginawa hula hula karambola

[@jojopogi-me9qk]

We have a 3 best players today in the philippines. Anton Raga, Carlo Biado and Dennis Orcollo, this guys play with the same level.

[@computerworx888]

Did raga do the combo for for 6 to 7? looks like a difficult one if its that far

[@gsezeraus4984]

trying to pot the 6 on the side thru kiss ball

[@edgardosantiago1159]

That was d reason he lost.

[@gsezeraus4984]

@@edgardosantiago1159 yup. time pressure also affects him.

[@bongvillareal8232]

Pwede naman kunin ng hinde combi.. Bakit gagawa ka ng spectacular hayaan mo na kay bata ang yun.. Nasayang ang championship dahil sa isang mistake.. Mabuti pa inubos ng kalaban yun bola kesa parang inihanda sa kanya ni raga.. Learning painful experience.. Any how going to the finals is still a big achivement for you dragon.. Next time the world champion you will get just continue and be humble in your achivements.. Go go go dragon..

[@patxizabaljauregui2543]

He was potting the 6 to the side pocket off the 7 as a billiard

[@turner9324]

still dont know why he didnt cut 6 to the side pocket

[@ceedee2025]

last rack ball 6 and 7 gi karambola niya or kissing sa 7,dapat defense shot yon,,panalo sana,kasi wala sya naka focus💓💕💕💞💞💥

[@Rudscarlyn]

I did not expect that he will play safety for the 2. There was a clear shot. 2 nad decisions but he has not lost the nerve in pocketing.

[@truonglongnguyen2148]

safe on the 2 is absolutely the right decision. no positional value for the 4 next, if power draw the right side pocket becomes a problem, topspin will possibly sends the cue ball towards the 6-9, so the safest play is safety on the 2. Raga just slightly overhit the cue ball, otherwise cue ball would have stuck behind the 6-9

[@masterbodgie23]

Congrats the dragon❤

[@kennethedar1027]

How much the prize for the champion and first place?

[@arbiebelleza5416]

Miss calculate ni raga, pwede naman direct side pocket yung 6, sayang ang chance.

[@y2kazan868]

Who’s in charge of uploading these teasers? You spoil the whole thing for those that haven’t watched it live. What’s the point in uploading one after another? Most of us will just jump to only watch the final.

[@shortydancer]

Just be happy we get any highlights at all dude

[@seannicol6078]

What an absurd comment. Dont fucking click it if you dont want spoilers btw iron man dies

[@aiHaowind]

Raga chậm lại một nhịp chạy con bi sáu nằm sau bảy thì là cơ hội chiến thắng nhiều hơn rồi.tiec cho raga một nhân tài

[@just.micaaa]

Try to review the ghost ball shooting the six ball its little bit thin.. may be intentional not to put the ball in

[@yuchub7389]

Hahahah coz anton have an image of game fixer but not this one

[@markomm5571]

Whata drama in the last rack. Great match. Raga had it , and chose the right shot of a 7 ball but just like commentator said, should be shot much harder. All ahead for a young man

[@jkavana]

Raga, you have great focus; but on the last rack why the heck didn't you just softly play the six ball in the side and float a little forward for the seven in the same pocket. ...you had it! ...by the way, the earlier shot on the three getting on the four was a very nice shot.

[@ChewieCR]

I dont know but he would have to kill the cue ball for that 6 on the side. Very small margin of error. Slow rolling would leave him funny for the 7.

[@acramirerandio3280]

I agree

[@thewall1854]

@matchroom Could you please not spoiler who is in the final before the highlight stream of the semis starts?? :-((

[@ProLevelAVG]

The internet is made for spoilers. You have to log off everything and hide in a hole

[@jace5790]

yea wtf, went this far not knowing and now I don't care to watch

[@thewall1854]

@@ProLevelAVG Exactly - it‘s pathetic… just use a different title and picture for the finals highlight stream, it could be soo easy …

[@edmonespina7879]

Magellan is the champion.. and losser is lapulapu

[@PostUp_Time]

*by the time this was posted, wasnt just known who was in the final, but it was already known who won the final tournament. pool fans dont wait for highlight videos to know who won. just sayin;*

[@cabpacedilla]

Be hungry Anton. Go for it every time next time

[@winethroxas5592]

better lack next time bro🙏🙏🙏👍👍👍thumbs up ako performance mo sa tournament na yan....bata kapa at cgurado ko magiging world champion ka din balang araw🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️❤️

[@Alireza_79i]

Great performance by alcaide in this tournament . A little unlucky in final but he takes that.

[@nonilondc3503]

still lucky he got rolls.

[@Alireza_79i]

@@nonilondc3503 Always there is luck in this game but unlucky moments were more than normal.

[@BestCoachOnEarth]

There will always be new players, but Michaela Tabb left a big empty space to fill......

[@potpolima]

old alcaide still has it.. he even beat FSR.. he deserves the title

[@excalibur7130]

Great match!!!

[@Juliankai13]

carlo biado and anton raga are the top players in the philippines i believe that next time he and alcaide will fight again he will beat alcaide many times

[@bonher69]

Final rack…raga should pocketed the 6 to the side! Great game! It was intense! Congratulations alcaide…well deserved!

[@Joseph-xi5bt]

Raga chose the right shot. That was a tight side pocket. Play the percentages

Enhorabuena David por ese Titulo, te lo mereces

[@SplatterFrog]

any sound?

[@rolanddantec8040]

Anton should be the winner but he made two bad decisions in last two deciding racks

[@dominadorchan8171]

The commentators were right. Anton should have hit the 6 ball with more speed (40:18). What actually happened after Raga hit the 6 ball with lower speed was that the trajectory path of the 6 ball was altered and the object ball moved forward and hit the edge of the side pocket.

[@ryansaberon1004]

Congrats both of you guys specially to raga bawe next time bro dina masama naka rating ka sa final ❤

[@geraldzamora5026]

That 6ball & 7ball carrom... Raga made it almost👍🇵🇭

[@nonilondc3503]

damn.Raga had it all day.

[@GarryDeleon-ik5vo]

Ginto na naging tanso pa! Bawi nalang next time lodi.

[@orlandosalonga6108]

Sana pleasing muna idol pag d kaya.6 lang nacira.d bale bawi na lang sunod.ganyan talaga.

[@fredramos7520]

Next time don’t cut the video so we can watch the whole

[@sakalamlangsakalam2173]

35:05 something fishy the way he played safety instead of running out i mean the table was open and the 6 on the final rack? he can side it if he wants maybe its true he give a way match for money? or is it just a rumor i dont know but its a bit suspicious 🙄🧐

[@pinoypooltv]

Parang binenta to brad, why he would billiard the 6 ball to the 7 is way beyond me.

[@bualgnattog27]

Agree brad, May sidebet dto, humihingi nga ko balato Sa malaking Sa labas pusta nila 😂

[@twabbles7801]

Super happy for alcaide. Super exciting game

[@JimJones-kk8pb]

Choosy mothers choose Jif

[@gerrybaker7155]

What! You don't show the break of the FINAL game of the tournament??? Really?

[@kelvikelv5322]

Where Raga lost this match is the shot at 40:11. The higher percentage shot would have been; top spin the cue-ball onto the six into the side; position for the 7 in the same side and the rest is elementary. Attempting to carom the 6 off the 7, you can lose control over the 7. This was Raga's tournament to win or lose... based on that shot! #playthepercentages. Great championship match though!

[@luxshampoo8520]

the european open is not yet ready for raga to be champion!

[@adrianhj7374]

Its weird how Anton kick the ball six in the last rack 🤦

[@brettbarker8444]

It annoys me so much that the ref calls it a “Foul Stroke” when the cueball gets kicked in by an object ball off the break. As Karl says @7:17…

[@rinoroidrinoroid]

Raga cant believe of what he did to that 6 ball. Learn from mistakes but still his decision.

[@SavagePoker81]

Raga shot is a bit in a hurry on the 6 ball.. he should call for an extension and made a better decision and precision of his stroke but still a great match! Congratulations Alcaide!

[@zzzbyyy]

Antony Raga's way of play reminds me style of Carlo Biado for some reason :D

[@jocellecubachaquisay1568]

Dapat plinising mo nalang yung 6 hindi mo pinakis sa 7 may pag'asa kapa sana manalo non...bawi nalang sa sunod pre..ingat

[@ungasis589]

Congrats !

[@Rudscarlyn]

Sayang. Si Raga sana ang panalo wala syang tira sa 6 pinilit. Pwede namang safety sa dulo. Na tempt sya sa karambola na open tuloy sa kalaban. Sayang.

[@jocellecubachaquisay1568]

Kayanga eh dapat plinising niya sana dapat sa last inisip niya sana alam mong mag champion na siya dapat iniingatan niya yun wala eh..huli na ang lahat😁😁

[@kurida7]

Funny that I see a lot of flak to Raga on that missed 6 ball kiss. But if that ball sunk, everyone would be like "woooowwww Raga you are a genius!!!"

[@myronm6964]

Congratulations to Alcaide👍

[@nico20r]

Rack 25 : Raga aiming the 4 ball : i got this , i'm the champ....

[@ricosuaveevausocir]

Cut that six clean, every time

[@vishybreh]

39:09 soooo unfortunate he got dead straight on that 4, after a testy 3 ball. Guarantee he would’ve played the 5 in top left if he got the angle. Anton’s gonna have trouble sleeping that one off