THRILLING 8-BALL FINAL | Shane Van Boening vs Alex Pagulayan | 2017 US Open 8-Ball Championship

2017 US Open 8-Ball Championships
July 29-31, 2017
Griff's
Las Vegas, NV
FINAL MATCH: Shane Van Boening vs Alex Pagulayan
Sponsors:
Predator Chalk, Cyclop Balls, Kamui Tips, Iwan Simonis Cloth, and Omega Billiards

[@techmetal2292]

This is what I fall asleep to every night

[@hunterross9615]

I’m so glad someone else does this!

[@rebbix4131]

Same yo 😂😂

[@Gold3nDragon]

Same here ! My daily dose before sleep

[@MaazKhan-lx5hz]

😁😁😁😁

[@mattcordry]

Me too!!! Is the best to lay down and close your eyes to!

[@herculesrockefeller8969]

It's games like this that really make you appreciate the shot clock.

[@steveclapper5424]

Amen

[@chasebob8327]

eh, this is like classic chess vs speed or bullet... take your time, think, and may the best shooter (given every opportunity) win.

[@sheilamclaughlin963]

If we amateurs have to shoot at 45-60 sec shots the pros should hav to, took me 3 times to watch this

[@joulupukki1607]

US open final let the guys play. And shot clock is great in 9 ball

[@arnav9192]

@@joulupukki1607 Yeah makes much more sens in 9 because there is only one ball you can hit, with its own options. 8 ball, there are multiple options for multiple balls

[@Deezy7ful]

The double tap fast forward 10 seconds feature was a godsend. This would be agonizing to watch without being able to skip 10 seconds at a time.

[@JesseLira]

dude, preach

[@greatnessg348]

I just learnt that...

[@xtinct6584]

Funniest part of the match was fast forwarding the 10 seconds and seeing alex at a different end of the table for 5 times in a row 😂😂

[@robertcooper96]

Trying to watch Both of these is like pulling teeth

[@truongthanh5936]

Phĩm xa hoiden hongkong

[@conchur381]

Watching Alex play this match was the best 3 years of my life

[@pattmahiney]

Lmfao!!

[@pine6163]

Slow AF

[@alejandrinoroscios6756]

Fuck you

[@otakurocklee]

His nickname should be the snail not the lion.

[@anthonydk5]

Lmao for real

[@breakingballswithtony6897]

Waiting on Pagyulyan to shoot ....should be the title of this event. Shane on the other hand is always a pleasure to watch. Good pace, great player and smart run-outs and amazing break

[@jpcab9460]

"Now my kids will eat again" Lol that was good.

[@mousitsoula]

Look at that table size! It's gorgeous! Finally on a 9ft again!

[@I8MAX8I]

Vagelis Stefanopoulos are you sure thats a 9ft ? I think its an 8ft table, van boening can reach more than half of the table easily!

[@whitelion204]

It's a 9ft. 8ft table is pretty dead now, nobody's playing with a 8ft anymore.

[@joeygonzo]

A 9ft table only has 100 inches of playing field , lengthwise. SVB is a 6 footer.

[@InsideKatana]

It's a 9 foot

[@jacobshepherd3997]

Chris Go it’s personal preference, yes the break is cleaner and wider but for me personally since I learned on an 8ft my angles are often off when I play on a 9ft

[@xedousnosimaj505]

never give up, deal with what you have on the table if you get a roll you get a roll just keep playing hard!!!! words of a champ

[@finding3384]

words for life

[@thegodofpez]

Shane is such a good sportsman. Every event, every time.

[@nathanrwin]

I lost a lot of respect for him when he played that kid and it got down to the end of the match, the score was close, and he let the kid shoot the wrong ball for a foul.

[@thegodofpez]

@@nathanrwin Versus 17 year old Joseph Tate. I respect your opinion. I try to remain unbiased. It hasn’t been disclosed if Shane even noticed, I looked for interviews but never found one. But again, respect your opinion.

[@DomenG33K]

@@nathanrwin "The kid" wasn't that young. You are talking like he was 10.

[@nathanrwin]

@@DomenG33K Found the kid

[@ildio7987]

At this level of playing, if you miss the break you lose because your opponent will just clean the table

[@rn4l713]

Il Dio no shit

[@Jokester1338]

All the idiot pool players liking this dumb fuck comment

[@alejandrinoroscios6756]

Joe Clavette fuck you

[@lesliethompson4039]

Hey, it's really true. U miss the break, your done. Two wold class players to learn from. Maybe you tough guys commenting can learn something for your own game and be humble instead of being jerks. He stated the obvious because it's mind blowing.... You tough guys couldn't run 4-balls on the table. I gurentee it. So be humble and teachable and learn. † Jesus is Lord.

[@OO-ll8ge]

@@rn4l713 Probly the best reply EVER!

[@OneShotKiller1996]

29:18 “how good is this guy “ 😂😂 It’s so fun to watch him

[@shakirqurshi449]

Who watched this for 2 hrs lets give him aplause

[@jamesanderson6536]

Shakir Qurshi I did lol

[@jaspergan]

thank you for the applause.

[@luispolanco3306]

I did it

[@herobrain311]

Shakir Qurshi alex pagulayan is the one,101% im sure...

[@xdevilx86]

watched it on double speed

[@bobbyclarke1780]

That was a helluva comeback. Cudos to Alex for bringing it home

[@rayburns8019]

u 2 ruining the ending 4 me.

[@Crxig3]

"Oh I don't know, you know, that's part of the game" SVB is my favorite player. Not just because of his game, but because of his attitude. That's a winners attitude. That's why SVB is a champion.

[@gamebred5x]

Wow....what a comeback

[@definevanitynails4743]

Hilarious commentary!They are guessing on which key ball he takes:-)

[@rationalist8805]

16:23 is one of the better shots I've seen. Seems simple, but it reflects an incredible level of cue ball control. Yes Alex makes mistakes elsewhere, but this shot is impressive - and not because of the bank. For Alex the bank is childs play. It is the draw to an exact position.

[@zcurtin608]

Na it wasn’t amazing. It was good but when you play at a really high level pinpoint draw is the norm.

[@nmartin0600]

Basic bank shot, yep, never seen that before, wow!

[@stevenibanez7763]

Thank you so much for all the uploads csi!!!!!!

[@DavidSmith-yu1vm]

What an excellent performance by both. They make the nearly impossible look easy. Must check this one out!!

[@rawhideleather]

Great commentary like on this match makes watching so much more enjoyable.

[@VetteWay2Fast]

For real. One of the more interesting commentaries I’ve heard. The jabs and banter made these crazy long waits between shots enjoyable. Need to watch more matches they call

[@denversdabsc6073]

9 to 9 games! Pagulayan was on point.

[@MikeyD22]

It's great to see the US Open 8-ball played on 9 footers as it should be. Thanks for the videos!

[@jimwatts7489]

They should be on a 10 footer! 6'ers for children, 7'ers for beginner adults, 8'ers for wannabe hustlers, 9 footers for ProAm, 10'ers for Pro's, 12'ers with snooker pockets for Earl Strychnine's.

[@marshalcraft]

Yes Jim Watts. Yes.

[@neonicplays1364]

Jim Watts where r the hustlers? Wanna be hustlers on an 8, but when u make it that’s it, no spots for you

[@drew7155]

@@jimwatts7489 bullshit take. Do you actually play in any league or at a competitive level? Bigger tables make runouts much easier. Smaller tables force more precise shots and make for more defensive/chess match type games. If these guys were on smaller tables they wouldn't be breaking and running like they do

[@biggun31]

love to watch shane,got the privilege to watch and meet him at the 4 bears classic last year!true sportsman to the game!!ty shane for the autograph🎱🎱

[@Sakkanartn]

Amazing match. What a comeback.

[@wauttz]

51:50. - beautiful straight lineup with the camera.

[@donegotold8776]

2 of my favorite players ever , but I think every tournament professional and amateur should have a shot clock !!

[@sheilamclaughlin963]

As far asi know all a mature pool leagues have a shot lock 45-60 secs per shot, match takes forever at Amin per shot

[@KP-fy5bf]

@@sheilamclaughlin963 Its better to not have a shot clock for a final match between two top players because having the time to let the shots sink in is extremely important for a good game and to test the skills between players.

[@VetteWay2Fast]

@KP - Naw you need some sort of clock. If u want to grow the sport, waiting 5 mins per shot will tune out most viewers. Maybe a longer clock for finals, 1 min with a another min extension, but certainly not timeless and with time to mow the yard between shots lol

[@alexellygalbangonzalez]

Excelente muchas felicidades

[@alfredosalazar6796]

The world..best.player..shane.van..boening

[@ARGOMATH]

watta comeback.. felt the shout of Alex :D .. great play by Van..

[@user-od9iz9cv1w]

I could not have seen this outcome after the first few breaks. But Alex deserves massive credit for hanging in under massive pressure. Great win Alex!

[@VetteWay2Fast]

Love these commentators, much more interesting than the most I’ve heard. Taking bets on which ball and the general banter. Made the crazy long waits interesting and do these tourney’s not have some sort of shot clock? They should be able to call clock on the opposing player like in poker, I can’t believe they give them 5 mins to contemplate shots. Whoever came up with the 40 sec shot clock in most matches I’ve seen, give that man a beer!

[@concerncitizen8988]

Nice video coverage, good job on all angles. 👍

[@charlesdiddly5133]

Very intuitive and entertaining commentary on an incredible match between two of the best to ever play the game. The patterns these two play are something to behold and there is a lot that can be learned from watching such high level 8 ball. Thanks CSI!

[@drew7155]

These announcers are trash. You can tell they are the "HIT and HOPE for the best" type players. No appreciation for the game. A good announcer would talk about the options, risk, strategy, fear, likelihood of execution, what they're thinking, etc. These guys are really yawning with no conception of whats at stake; like its a bar game or something. Really not qualified. Would love to see their credentials.

[@cornermanbilliards9915]

I know it’s been a year since this post, but wanted to at least answer. The commentators are George Teyechea and yours truly, Freddie Agnir. George is a multi-time Arizona State Champion. I am NH State 8-ball Champion, and I have a Top Gun and league state singles championship. I would think that would be enough credentials for anyone.

[@VetteWay2Fast]

@drew - Disagree man, I watch a lot of pool and most commentators are dry and just state obvious things with butt kissing. Very uninteresting, these guys with their banter and bets on which ball will be hit made it enjoyable, particularly for these crazy long waits between shots. I need to watch more matches they call

[@JP-ho4kr]

If people want bigger prizes in the tournaments, they NEED A SHOT CLOCK. honestly, people who play pool night and day will get bored watching Alex shoot this pace.. can only imagine how hard this turns away people who are new to the sport as well.

[@megancalignaoan3360]

J P y

[@megancalignaoan3360]

G

[@megancalignaoan3360]

J P tiff

[@Dman40000]

J P He runs out though.

[@jimwatts7489]

Dman40000 Yeah, he runs people out the fricken door. Either sheit or get off the pot!!!!! Let some 5 and 6-year-olds up there it would be more interesting.

[@jamesonmoore8926]

They both look so excited to be there

[@sugarray1471]

Alex deserving of the Billiards HOF. US Open 9-Ball, US Open 8-Ball, World 9-Ball, World Pool Masters, US Open one-pocket, Derby City 9-ball.

[@marrebv]

17:21 "The crowd should be going crazy here" No, because all of them already fell asleep waiting for the earlier shots

[@useranother667]

no, because they are US crowd, and US player lost xD

[@draevonmay7704]

another user I’m not saying people don’t think like this, but (and I’m American), I just want a good game. And I thought the first two were pretty great. That shot was probably the best of the first two games (can’t speak to anything else, just started the video).

[@trevormillin506]

That out by Pagulayan in the second rack was mind blowingly stunning! Love watching these geniuses at work.

[@hoangsam1665]

Woww, great shot, congratulation Alex !

[@alfredosalazar6796]

Thats a prretty..Good video thats..really..awesone

[@illusion1415]

Damn SVB was dead on the inside during trophy ceremony

[@jonathanliberty7328]

alex deserved to win after keeping his poise and coming back, there will be more tourneys for shane another day, he shot well anyways

[@thomaschung5623]

U guys have to watch this till the end, soo interesting....like woah

[@unclesossa3483]

Awesome commentary team

[@OhMostBobulousOne]

What good is that big old trophy, there must be some cash for this tournament, but no mention of it anywhere. Can't eat a trophy.

[@jacobsdanielanderson]

Great commentary, especially analyzing the head shakes and hand flips, but what about the head scratches from Pagulayan?

[@runhorse]

What a great match, hill hill for a 10 - 9 Victory. I saw this guy Pagulayan play in person many years ago in Michigan, he is an incredible player. I saw him fire in pool balls on a snooker table. He even banked the q-ball 3 rails with his foot and made a ball. That's right with his foot, not a cue stick, he is awesome.

[@rayburns8019]

Spoiler you

[@johnhayes6414]

What a match. I haven't played in leagues in ages.

[@andrewx7806]

the anouncers obviously are just watching the video like us. They aren't adding anything. They should have announcers actually in the room behind a sound proof wall. These two know less of what's going on than I do. Great match.

[@adbitex]

Alex seems happy at the end

[@johnstorton]

Oh, did you sense that, too?

[@jeyrock]

This guy Alex is a machine. Nice watching him as a first time pool table player...

[@richardpacheco9330]

great comeback Alex!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Congrats

[@dtk3493]

LOVING the celebration by Alex! XD Well deserved!

[@finding3384]

I dont

[@kyleguo2363]

I hope van boening had his hearing aid turned off when the announcer was talking

[@memphisbullfrog1611]

the commentators shot selection was getting annoying

[@donaldhenak4585]

i did

[@YashMyGosh]

Alex was 8-4 down and still won against Shane! Hats off! 🙌🏻

[@derrickzoolander5378]

What a Match!

[@jrbr549]

When did they go away from wooden racks or from using the masterrack?

[@blackmamba99971]

Tournaments use them because using the thick duroplastic racks sometimes causes the balls to shift by a few millimeters when you try and remove it. When that happens the person who breaks will make more balls off the shot. The league decided that using thin acetate racks reduces the chance of ball shifting to make it fair all round for each player when they break. I agree that it works much better than duroplastic.

[@poyyenmagadia6939]

Mabuhayyy filipino pride like pa quae

[@useranother667]

pretty hard earned that, good to know phillipines arent done after Efren and Bustamante

[@useranother667]

on the other hand, alex is already 40 years old, and hes also canadian lol

[@tomfisher3117]

It is so cool to watch the best in the world negotiate these racks. Wow!

[@southsidejonny9997]

Shangerous Domination's devoured by the Pixie Lion. Masterful position truly two of the best. Bravo com.

[@Mickster114]

2:15:27 Alex: “She doesn’t come with the trophy” Alex you fucking savage😂😂

[@elvirfale5431]

Hahahaha

[@Mickster114]

What a way to lose a chip. After flawless breaking, a scratch break on the hill rack. Man, extremely unfortunate.

[@nimajnebrm]

Nice match! +1

[@kennethlin]

What a match!

[@mikethebeginner]

PS the solution is VIDEO EDITING. Let them stand around and think as much as they want to, but judicious video editing would make the matches HUGELY better as spectator sports.

[@draevonmay7704]

Mike J. I don’t know if that’s the case. Seeing the breaks adds something to the experience. I’ve seen a few flawlessly edited snooker matches that were obnoxious to watch because the pauses were removed. I’m sure there’s a way to balance the two sides, but I don’t know what that is.

[@JeffMTX]

would save on server disk space too

[@herotheplottmix6690]

TIME!!!! WOW

[@noobtube117]

When will be the next tournament. I just love this tournament. The best for me. Good commentary, good tables, good cameras. Everything is good

[@sb2h]

the commentators are fucking retarted

[@obakengmanando2967]

what a game an great come back from Alex

[@jasonkeith9317]

Come on u make the eight off the break u should win the game!!!

[@harper626]

I like can't win or lose on break. Keep the game going. Run some balls and earn it.

[@utoobuser101]

that little rack is so adorable!

[@johnhamiltonlist1804]

This table layout is really chrisp..simple direct no distractions, all game

[@mikechek7790]

Good Commentating

[@dsauce223]

Alex really stuck it in his ass at the end there. I was surprised by that. I still love Alex, but was surprised by it. Nobody wants to lose a hill hill match because they scratched on the break, ya know?...

[@useranother667]

what you mean? he was just very happy. it was really hard for him, and not only title, he won the damn title. allowed to celebrate in my opinion

[@alejandropagulayan315]

All u haters, u should try to compete with the pros and tell me how u feel then

[@blackmamba99971]

And alex should try and shoot the god damn ball when its presented as a gift. I've played pool for thirty years and played in various leagues winning a few of them. But I have to agree with the audience, he uses too much time to shoot. Looking at the table myself I know exactly what ball to go for and how to set up for the next one, but his constant staring at the table was causing some dismay even with the audience who was there watching it. I'm sure some of them even got their social security checks waiting for him to take a shot. Overthinking a game can cost a match, and he almost lost the final because of his over thinking along with Boening. Both of them shouldn't have had to waste nearly three hours for ten frames. The most a final tournament should last with ten frames is about an hour and twenty minutes. But because of the No Shot clock policy they took advantage of that and I wasted my time watching it. I aged several years because of it. I lost some hair. And now I have to go a get some rogain, and some just for men hair solution to get rid of the grey. Plus some depends, and extra strength laxative. You see what I mean? Snooker players don't even take that long unless its in the very last final frames which are 35 frames, which can sometimes last four hours. Ronnie O'sullivan who is a snooker player made the world record book for shooting a perfect 147 in five minutes and six seconds. And that is on a six by twelve table. The difference is, is that no snooker player has taken more then a minute or two to contemplate a simple shot.

[@mario_vicente]

@@blackmamba99971 Totally agree. Alex is not as professional and skilled as Shane. He got lucky in the last frame, but the slow pace he plays even for obvious shots is not a fair play.

[@cykelmand]

This is a classic.

[@dragecardelean]

Good game

[@JustaCuriousity]

Woooooooh! Lol Congrats Alex!

[@napochulo]

Why did Shane say he would rather play Alex of the three Filipino finalist when they interviewed him after the Orcollo match 1:26:48?

[@earlstickland3966]

Great question. I just watched the interview after reading your comment. They have a long rivalry, with Alex beating Shane in a challenge match race to 100 in 2008. So I would guess he has alot of respect for Alex and likes a good challenge.

[@napochulo]

Great answer and as you can read in the comments, Alex plays so slow compared to Shane that I would think that alone is the reason not to play him. Thanks.

[@apexspr10]

Cause Orcollo is an ass

[@ongtran8115]

Nice !

[@pdn]

Finally finished this video...

[@josephnewcomb5670]

Would love to see 8-ball tournaments use the take what you make rule off the break...that would make it tougher to run out & make it more interesting

[@TerryWilsonModels]

Does anyone else have the urge to yell "SHOOT" when Alex takes the table?

[@frizzby-x]

No.

[@harper626]

No, I hit the L key 3 or 4 times and move on.

[@cerijames5216]

When I’m not playing it I’m watching it

[@TotoyBatoVlog]

Congrats DONG PAGULAYAN pero Sana di umibabaw saiyo ang prang my pag ka Maya ang na pinoy, dapat simple lang.

[@MrMack12345]

Those commentators talked so much shit about Alex and down played his ability and skill im glad he came back and won

[@DustinLe]

seriously you can see the narrative go from talking shit about him to saying that he "stepped up to Shane's level". Like he isn't one of the greatest in the world to ever do it.

[@mottiengnhat8921]

2:15:26 'No u don't get Amy sorry' lol

[@useranother667]

haha

[@SilentKiller-ph1rr]

nice game

[@cooperhext8094]

I’m trying to get better at pool so gotta watch the best play and learn from them

[@RichardsWorld]

Pagulayan wanted the woman as a trophy 😃😃😃

[@skeptic8040]

they need a shot clock on this events .

[@kims.h9326]

Wah the snooker master.. alex pagulayan

[@NoBiTa-qe9il]

Rấ hay và tuyệt vời 🤩

[@buddharmt]

To all the people bitching about alex’s slow play, I’ll grant you some time were excessive but I’ll wager not many of you play competitive 8 ball. Strategy folks. Dozens of potential runouts, breakouts and positions to play. More to run through than a game of 9 ball. Call shot no fluking. If you like high level pool you’ll enjoy the planning as much as the playing. It’s like a fair weather mma fan bitching when their on the ground. “They’re just layin there, do something”. Jujitsu strategy. Same shit bitches. Don’t like don’t watch

[@mario_vicente]

Sorry, but he is too slow to play at that professional level in a final Tournament. Plenty of sports require a limited amount of time to play in order to be fair and competitive.

[@jimmys005]

Let's hear it for the commentators. I always enjoy listening to people run their mouths through the whole goddamn game.

[@Jack3dBrett]

what a match

[@jejhefamarcelo1808]

Always round the table many time

[@dopedrop831]

UP SPEED 1.25 or 1.5 thank me later

[@purehype3166]

Thank you

[@Enzo-ji3nt]

50:10 why is he passing?

[@decept1k919]

probably didnt feel like he could get position for the 5 since the was a couple balls in the way and the 8 was blocking the middle pocket. the 8 made it so that he couldnt luck out with position and possibly get the 5 to get in the middle pocket if he got lucky enough to get through the stripes somehow

[@tylerderton8023]

He was going for the other side

[@Stonefalconetti]

2 years and nobody gave the correct and simple explanation. It's an obvious fluke and flukes don't count in that tournament.

[@lexsanderz]

He said his ball in right pocket. Ball did not go where he said it will go. Lose your turn. rules. You can't say one thing and by luck something completely different happens and continue.

[@Enzo-ji3nt]

@@lexsanderz hey, now that you are here, do you know what are the table's dimentions?

[@LILP12345]

I wish I can play like this especially the first man that was playing. That was nice!

[@rayburns8019]

DAAHHAAA!

[@Fearless13289]

My dream is to play with Shane💯🔥