Matt Fortuna: North Carolina Is the Most Desired Brand Among All of the ACC Schools | CFB

Matt Fortuna The Inside Zone joins 365 Sports to discuss his thoughts on House vs the NCAA, if this is a good thing that the bill looks to be passed, his thoughts about the level of concern from programs around the country about the future of college football, his thoughts on the ACC’s struggle with its members, and more.
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[@jansonroberts2616]

UNC and Clemson will join the SEC if and when they leave the ACC as the #17 and #18 members

[@demond2134]

Not a fan of these power conferences but I wasn’t a fan of NIL and transfer portal either at first and then Mizzou won 11 games and now I think it’s the greatest thing to happen to college sports lol

[@brett8078]

But if FSU and clemson break off from the acc. Will notre dame keep that acc deal??? I doubt it

[@tarheel7406]

a) I've read about no key member provision in the ND arrangements. b) ND pushed for the CAL+2 expansion and must have provided some assurances of not leaving. Yep, ND has made a bet and will keep the deals,

[@adamb6370]

Step back, what have we heard this week. KU, UNC, Clemson and one of the Va schools are talking to SEC. If they are SEC bound. After FSU, BIG will take Stanford to sweeten a deal for ND or Miami. And the B12 will get the rest.

[@webmoore4353]

You do not need to sweeten a deal for Miami. But the rest is plausible

[@webmoore4353]

Btw did t hear any rumor about KU. Interesting if true

[@adamb6370]

@@webmoore4353 misspoke only ND. Miami will be lucky to get a BIG invite. Probably B12 bound

[@adamb6370]

@@webmoore4353 Broke by the guy who broke USC to BIG.

[@tarheel7406]

For what purpose an even larger, wider Tier 2 BIG12?

[@glennruess3324]

What's valuable about UNC in FB? If FB is driving all these conference moves, Bama & Michigan don't get to put a feather in their cap for beating the lowly Tar Heels in FB.

[@tarheel7406]

Football isn't the only consideration. This story is now almost 3 years old.

[@vistatiger7493]

Agreed. Football is most certainly driving all this and UNC hasn't won the ACC in 44 years (1980).

[@tarheel7406]

@@vistatiger7493 Amazing. Since UNC is the top expansion target of the SEC and B1G (ignoring ND), if UNC sucks, is unworthy, etc., then if your school is outside of the SEC/B1G, it sucks worse, is less worthy, etc.

[@matthewhuszarik4173]

North Carolina does have very prestigious graduates who have significantly higher earnings than most colleges. That is attractive for advertisers. Remember the Big 10 isn’t looking for good football programs they are looking for very popular programs that have very affluent fans. North Carolina fits that definition. They are also AAU unlike FSU and Clemson.

[@austinlawrence3071]

UNC as a brand brings so much to the table, have top 25 teams in consistently in all of the sports that turn a profit, are highly respected academically (which the B10 cares about), and even if none of those things matter or mean anything to you, what should make sense is that it’s the flagship university of a state that the B10 and SEC would both love to expand into..

[@kaioh187]

North Carolina is very valuable to both the BIG 10 and the SEC! I can see North Carolina and North Carolina State split coming up very soon. I believe that North Carolina State will be in the BIG 12 and if North Carolina State thinks that is not good enough, the Group of Five Conferences will love to have them.

[@CarlaJenkinsTV]

UNC will go to the Big 12 (the basketball conference). NC State is will be in the ACC. The ACC will just invite USF and some other teams.

[@kaioh187]

I can see North Carolina in the BIG XII if the BIG XII forms a super conference with the BIG EAST for basketball only.

[@ericlofroos2405]

UNC is a basketball powerhouse, but they stink at football. The last time I checked Football is the money maker in college sports. As far as football goes, FSU and Clemson rule the ACC! Nuff said! UNC! lmao!

[@scotthamilton598]

Your a dumbass if you dont think that UNC brimgs brand power and market power in the 9th fastest growing market in the country. Want brand power? (Nike), want eyes on your product? Want new recruiting ground in an area your locked out of? UNC makes perfect sense. Football may be the big factor you see but its not the only factor

[@tarheel7406]

@@scotthamilton598 "Nuff said" suggests a man of few words, which is expected from someone who likely only knows a few.

[@LEE_65]

ND is not making more than SEC schools and I don't think ND is as well off as they are telling people they are.

[@tarheel7406]

ND sacrifices revenue to remain indy. Only if the gap starts to materially affect competitiveness will ND join a conference.

[@kodiakgriz2296]

Unc is a football joke ...please an opening act ....nothing more ....basketball is the sidecar

[@bgs4362]

Notre Dame isn't truly independent

[@mohdradzi5072]

Whatever, it is still a directional school!

[@atgdcommish608]

But why though? When have they ever been good at football? FSU and Clemson have recent national championships. Miami is a better TV team. Stanford has had more football success this century than North Carolina.

[@atgdcommish608]

Since 2000: UNC has 151 wins and 4 bowl victories (Peach, Music City, Belk and Military bowls). Stanford has 155 wins and 6 bowl victories (Orange, Rose (twice), Sun (twice) and Foster Farms).

[@tarheel7406]

So far, FSU has burned bridges and ships. it will either leave or be kicked at some point barring some miracle. CLEMSON has been more cautious, so it can just get a declaratory judgment and remain in the ACC while considering the next move.

[@scottyclayton2501]

If FSU decides they can’t leave, even though the ACC won’t like them they would be stupid to kick them out. They are the one of if not the most valuable ACC teams

[@tarheel7406]

@@scottyclayton2501 FSU is now poison, and the ACC is already treating them as gone for planning purposes. Far better to move forward without the poison and invest in the members that will remain.

[@James-fh9zd]

No!

[@tarheel7406]

Yes?

[@CarlaJenkinsTV]

Neither the SEC nor the Big 10 are tripping over each other to add UNC let alone any ACC team. No ACC team has won a playoff game since 2020 this decade. The ACC has to remember that the other 3 Power 4 conferences don't have to invite them.

[@tarheel7406]

In context, the BIG12 is no longer really a "power". Certainly not a peer P4. No ACC school wants to join the BIG12. Different reporters have consistently said that UNC is the top expansion target in the ACC (ignoring ND) since Day 1. Why won't so many accept this reality? Honestly, you post a lot of nonsense.

[@kirkmoody6109]

Eh there's a few acc members that are worth more than some big ten and sec members not many of them obviously but a few of them only 3 come to mind UNC(basketball), FSU and CLEM. Miami being the possible 4th but not as of lately I don't see how they would be worth less than say a Arkansas or Missouri(who still competes in big12 wrestling and lose a lot) or a northwestern or Rutgers

[@LEE_65]

It's not about being more valuable than another school the schools that go to another conference have to be worth more than the conferences currently TV deal

[@kirkmoody6109]

@LEE_65 unc and fsu are bigger markets than literally all the teams I mentioned I know what it's about those two brands bring in money for whoever gets them those are two major schools then Clemson because of recency success they have lots of eyes on em either of those schools adds value to whatever conference

[@noles9998]

Why do you idiots Keep talking playoffs records, winning records how many titles they have? This has nothing to do with that, it is about eyeballs. Are people watching your brand? I’m sorry to burst your bubble or kill your hate but FSU is a hot brand, even in the lonely ACC. they rank higher than the majority of SEC schools when it comes to ratings, even during their losing season years. Maybe the majority of people who watch FSU want to see them lose but the point is they watch. Now I don’t understand why people keep pushing North Carolina because nobody’s watching them but everybody’s rolling with this narrative.

[@lonnyrowden2630]

He’s wrong on realignment.

[@tarheel7406]

How so?

[@kodiakgriz2296]

This guy is 8. Tiers down from top of proverbial Intel food chain......nobody

[@jaygatsby1]

Put down the dumb dumb sippy cup and check the last thirty years of TV ratings bro. FSU and the rest.

[@tarheel7406]

And yet bumble bees fly?

[@jaygatsby1]

@@tarheel7406 Korsakov wrote a little ditty about it.