Matte vs. glossy OLED - was I wrong?

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The wave of new OLEDs are split down the middle - is a matte coating or glossy coating better? In this video I compare the LG 32GS95UE to the ASUS PG32UCDM.
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[@snow_hound8026]

Most people crying about a matte coating don’t even have an oled monitor or tv to begin with.

[@Solus793]

And where did you verify this statistic?

[@phahq]

I've had both matte, glossy, and semi-glossy OLED displays. Matte on the latest W-OLED monitors sucks. Where's your God now?

[@dude3278]

@@phahqI've had Matte on the latest OLED monitors as well and it I prefer it over Glossy. Where's your God now bud?

[@lazyturfbattler]

@@phahqimo I prefer matte

[@lilpain1997]

I dunno I am sat in front of my AW3423DW and have a matte mini led monitor at my other set up and it would be much better as glossy

[@sheikhyusuf4686]

Optimum uploading at a optimal time

[@DonnyDonnMendoza]

with optimal content as well! Gotta love it!!!

[@riomendoza1111]

What a poor comment. Do better

[@camplethargic8]

@@riomendoza1111 irony

[@sheikhyusuf4686]

@@riomendoza1111 wtf

[@omarali6651]

Semi gloss would be a good balance

[@hobblyjig]

Thank you for making this video! A Couple years back I switched from an older matte finish monitor to a new glossy finish monitor and I felt that the glossy finish had a big effect on improving the contrast and sharpness. Overall, I much prefer it. It’s good to know that monitors that are labeled with having a matte finish in 2024 are not the same as monitors from years past that had a matte finish.

[@noidsuper]

Don't get your hopes up too much because a common complain with these LG OLED monitors are that the coating looks oily and grainy. I don't know if it's a person to person thing if Optimum can't see it, but matte is most certainly still a big issue for a good deal of people.

[@alexandrefaustino2448]

@@noidsuper Yes I think it also depend from constructor to constructor I'm pretty sure that asus matte finish still sux even in 2024

[@Dubulcle]

This very concept is what people can't grasp

[@techpriest4787]

Thing is that my room layout has no reflection issues. So I simply have no need to compromise and am glossy all the way.

[@MaestroDK]

@@noidsuper I can't see any grain on my OLED LG monitor from 2023. Did you verify these claims in person or did you just pass on hearsay?

[@jumpman1213]

The "matte" coatings on the newer OLEDs are not quite matte in a traditional sense. My PG27AQDM looks significantly more glossier than the Alienware 240Hz IPS display I bought 4 years ago. I would say it's the best of both worlds

[@CertifiedSlamboy]

He says that in the video

[@tomaslove2398]

​@@CertifiedSlamboywho gives a shit just let the guy say his opinion

[@jumpman1213]

@@CertifiedSlamboy my bad

[@yensteel]

Agreed, color and details aren't necessarily compromised when it's done right. Hopefully more companies jump on this train.

[@lefthornet]

Yeah I agree, I think they should probably find a new word in between both, that will be more representative of the actual coating. (Something like Semi-matte or semi-glossy for example) I tested one friend 240HZ OLED and is not as matte as I thought. I myself have a QD-OLED, I'm happy but when I open the curtains during the day, the Monitor looks more like a really good IPS, because the blacks are more of a gray. OLED technology is good. Most people that spoke about matte or glossy coating are expecting the matte from an IPS and is nowhere near that level of matte.

[@maozedowner5915]

The level of detail being specified in this video while being this short is really incredible. There's a reason why this guy is almost a million sub KZbinr. Truly top quality videos.

[@Deffine]

Misinfo presented in a good way is still misinfo. This video is literally light matte vs. semi glossy. The problem is that he doesn't know what he is comparing.

[@Gekihen_]

ok then make a good video with perfectly accurate points, stated facts , not even a slight mistake allowed. prove by A+b that one is better than the other one. lets see if you perfectly know what you are talking about then.@@Deffine

[@Deffine]

@@Gekihen_ Poor attempt at apologism.

[@Alfie0001]

@@Gekihen_pepega response

[@Gekihen_]

@@Deffine just want to know real information since this is misinfo, and why this is missinfo. Tired of hearing waa waa matte bad

[@rustycompassadventures]

Always appreciate the in depth reviews Optimum produces.

[@andrekreou1]

You nailed it I think. Your video solves my biggest dilemma on which these two specific monitors should I choose.

[@lalitsharma8622]

and which one do you prefer now? Curious. Glossy?

[@D3adLyStinG]

Thank you very much for the video! Been here ever since you inspired me to build in the NCASE M1 and your content has only gotten better.

[@GamerPalmSweats]

I was waiting for this video. Thank you 🙏🏾

[@Maisonier]

I really don't understand how anyone could complain about matte coating and want having a mirror instead of a display.

[@foxorian]

the new studio space is so good, can't believe you found a warehouse-like space so minimally clean to match your video aesthetic. Excited to see more from this like the racing setup video.

[@DonnyDonnMendoza]

Absolute optimal content! gotta love it!!!

[@juicy0003]

the best tech creator that gets straight to the point with so much info in a short time frame on yt. 1 mill soon bro, well deserved.

[@sebaschan-uwu]

He consistently makes the best content

[@elmalloc]

just due to muscles

[@actuallykuku]

Also the fact that this is good second channel reaching 1 mil is astonishing

[@vivekis]

And he doesn't waste time asking for like and subscribe, or sponsors.

[@Be-Like]

You always produce some amazing videos! I always appreciate your candor. I love the new warehouse. There was some minor echoing that I heard. I don't remember hearing it in your Racing Sim video. Just thought I would point it out though. 😄

[@martinmyung4710]

Great video and definitely needs to be shared. Digital trends also did a great job covering matte vs glossy at CES this year.

[@SSracer192]

Thank you for the update. I'm in the market for just this product and you're coming in with the best review yet. Thank you

[@Dlo_BestLife]

Thanks for the info. I LOVE my AW32 QD-OLED. LOVE it.

[@mfam72]

Exactly the comparison video i have been looking for weeks. Thanks man

[@user-fg6mq3dg3d]

I am not writing this to attack you just to point out a funny irony about certain things, but "Exactly the comparison video I have been looking for weeks." you dont happen to try and find this exact comparison from "The display guy" right?

[@grantkao]

Thank you very much for your informative video. I looked for a tip button and couldn't find one but I subscribed to your channel.

[@mr.waffles2555]

I agree. I actually thought I wasn’t going to be happy with my GR2795QE when I saw all the comments before I bought it. All the panels in my house are glossy OLED including a 48” C2 I use for another monitor, but I didn’t really see a difference after I got it all setup. It’s a sweet monitor other than the HDMI bug.

[@ho0dra]

Great video, answering the questions I didn't even know I needed to ask. I would have never considered that WOLED and QD-OLED would handle ambient light differently but it is definitely something to consider when contrast and black levels are some of the major selling points of OLED.

[@disadadi8958]

It was a well known behavior of the coating on QD-OLED panels in TVs. After all, we saw these panels first used in TVs, not monitors, and the people do well detailed reviews of TVs in general and the information is readily available from there.

[@hitman480channel8]

Thank you for making this video. People were so up in arms about the matte finish despite almost every reviewers having no issues with matte. drawing attention away from the real strengths and weaknesses of the monitors

[@MaZEEZaM]

Such as no USB C or Dolby Vision support.

[@Dubulcle]

​@@MaZEEZaMwhich one is that? Also why would you need either of those things?

[@DanyalT]

your studio with that lighting looks really cool

[@ViktorsReality]

Great Video Man! Probably one of the best Matte vs. GLOSSY videos I have seen. I need that LG in my life.. but that Asus be looking good tho

[@ms3862]

Even though they are calling it matte it's actually a semi-gloss coating, not full gloss but semi-gloss, it's definitely not a matte coating

[@ShrineMedium]

The matte finish on this monitor is not as bad as some people claim it to be. Matte in general is getting a bad reputation and I don't like that people are being shamed for liking it. I do think it would be good to give consumers the option of matte or glossy but crying over someone's opinion is not a good solution. Keep up the good work with your videos by the way my friend.

[@Summer-xu8qu]

For me, it's the blooming reflection that I hate for matte panel. Look at 4:50 for example, even though the light reflection is only half across the matte panel and fully across in the glossy one, the reflection still looks significantly more distracting on the matte panel. If you think about it, your big tv is glossy, you small phone is glossy, why the heck that monitors insists on making matte panel? If anything, the environment that a monitor typically sits is probably the easiest environment for you to control the light and reflection, compared to living room that your tv sits in or outdoor environment where your phone is used. It's probably not that big of a deal in practice, but people are paying top dollar for these monitors, I think they have the right to nitpick

[@Slavolko]

Having used glossy and matte displays, I'd prefer matte for a monitor personally. That mainly comes down to working in an office environment or a room with ambient lighting from a window. I'll take hazy blooming over sharp reflections.

[@Dubulcle]

All that yap to say absolutely nothing at all. This panel isn't even really matte so your breath is wasted. Lol.

[@Dubulcle]

All that yap to say absolutely nothing at all. This panel isn't even really matte so your breath is wasted. Lol.

[@user-1wy8wu01]

Straight to the point, no BS. Thank you for this quality video!

[@joshuathunhorst3090]

What you pointed out is exactly what I am experiencing with the Asus 32 inch QD Oled I am in the process of boxing up and returning. The fringing makes Samsungs display not usable for me even at 4K. You just validated what I was experiencing. I am waiting for the 27 inch 480hz variant coming out later this year and going to rock my IPS 165hz a bit longer.

[@wileyracer]

I preordered this LG, cant wait! Thanks for the review and impressions

[@Flobert16]

Hope the cooling fan will be silent

[@skyssleepy]

big mistake

[@wileyracer]

@@skyssleepy it has been amazing, can't hear the fan at all. The Matte finish is perfect for my setup, esp during the day. Been playing Valorant at 480hz and then 4K goodness for everything else.

[@gudadryckful]

@@skyssleepyhow do you enjoy your 720p monitor?

[@skyssleepy]

@@gudadryckful asus has better 4k 240hz

[@TheBeardedMann]

Dude, your shadows and lights are top notch. Wanted to give some credit to the little things that add to the excellent overall production quality.

[@fromthefutura]

Appreciate you going through all this.

[@Alauz]

Thanks for this interesting comparison!

[@JosoLifts]

Actually helped me decide so much. This is crazy thank you optimum. I am now considering the LG monitor

[@DrakonR]

He's shilling, but take him for his word anyway.

[@JosoLifts]

@@DrakonR explain in full detail how he's shilling

[@DrakonR]

@@JosoLifts when you receive products to review, it tends to skew the bias. Just saying.

[@JosoLifts]

@@DrakonR that's not a thorough explanation. I'm pretty sure they sent him both products so what's your take on that. He didn't buy any of the two monitors I'm pretty sure so his opinion still remains unbiased no?

[@vujhvjvgvfujk9888]

If there’s a light shining directly onto your screen from a light bulb or window buy the matte. If the window’s behind your monitor or it’s not very sunny where you live then get the glossy. Glossy isn’t that much clearer. What’s the big deal

[@SVT_LIGHTNING]

I completely removed my matte finish on my Alienware dwf qd-oled. Best thing I ever did on my dwf. The colors pop so much more. I'm going to do this for every single oled monitor I have that comes with any matte finish. Wasn't that hard to do either. Just a little time consuming.

[@SirGamerTheFirst]

How?

[@jrlivingspaces]

Yes how??

[@SVT_LIGHTNING]

@@jrlivingspaces Couple ways. Damp paper towel trick then peel. Or go ham like I did and use a box cutter blade and get under the film and lift / cut it off. There is another ways also. Simple google search will get you quite a few results.

[@musicislifeformetoo]

Fantastic info. I'm in the middle of deciding which monitor to buy. So thank you :)

[@asayamalaka]

i'll never understand why you'd want a glossy monitor and see the reflection of yourself and the room behind you

[@Savitarax]

I’ll chime in here with some useful information. That actually proves both are right. I have seen both at my work(Bestbuy) and I have had time to analyze both. The matte coating is phenomenal under our harsh lighting overhead. However viewing content with sharp bright light like white text screens. The matte coating is very obvious. Under normal use though it’s a lot harder since most content is dark by nature. The glossy screens to have a perceivable contrast and color pop to my eyes but I have 20/10 so this isn’t a fair comparison. But I can definitely see why someone would choose one over the other.

[@pasi123567]

I hate reflections, that's why I choose matte. The problem is that the people that prefer glossy will never understand this. When you mention this you will only hear them say "but matte also has reflections, it just scatters them and makes the whole display worse", well sort of, it scatters them, makes them less noticeable and makes it possible to read text and not see my own reflection. Personally I choose no reflections over a bit better contrast and text clarity.

[@ZeerakImran]

@@pasi123567 i was never personally bothered by reflections until I used a surface laptop 3. I found it really bizarre considering I'm used to using glossy displays everywhere since I hate matte displays. That display really triggered me that day and I understand how you feel. Having said that, my Macbook is glossy and not an issue whatsoever. I have never thought about reflections. Not once. I have also used the surface book 2 and surface laptop 2, all of which had the same issue. It was really quite extreme with them.

[@Slavolko]

@@pasi123567 Agreed.

[@OmniSzron]

Thanks, Ali. You made my purchase decision a little bit easier now.

[@DTM1337]

Great video, I think people worry about this coating "issue" far too much. I have a Sony A80K OLED tv (77") and reflections etc are not an issue even when watching during the daytime, content looks amazing!

[@andreas7278]

Thanks a lot for the video, you clarified a lot for me

[@dnbsupporter5643]

I agree with optimum here in every respect! I had the opportunity to test both matte and glossy. I currently own a Corsair Xeneon 27QHD240 W-OLED monitor from 2023 which also has a matte coating and I would never go back to a glossy one as I not only game at night but also work in a very bright room during the day and as shown in the video, the difference between matte and glossy during the day with strong sunlight is huge!

[@Jeroenneman]

WOLED it is. Couldn't stand still having bad black values on a OLED while not sitting in complete darkness.

[@finbenton]

Yes WOLED all the way, I didnt wait 15 years for OLED monitors just to stare grey image of QD-OLED.

[@Un1234l]

Then again if you can use the monitor mostly or exclusively in low light environments, the QD-OLED colours win.

[@MrM-dl5zm]

Yeah, its very hard to not shine a flashlight or studio light into monitor to avoid these raised blacks. But hey at least you have washed out colors and no burn in warranty. But who cares about that?

[@Un1234l]

@@MrM-dl5zm LOL. Even normal ambient room lights wash out QD-OLED blacks. Proven by Optimum, LTT, Techless. The colours on WOLED are definitely not in the same league as QD-OLED, but they are still very good. Overall a much better package for many... INKY blacks at all light levels + very good colours... versus INKY blacks and excellent colours only in low light rooms... grey blacks and excellent colours in lit rooms.

[@user-ke1gn3ql1g]

​@MrM-dl5zm Yes, it's pretty hard, actually. At the end of the day it depends on your situation.

[@pengingamer4510]

short and to the point. Love it. Learned sth from this video and even i know the differences its really a great comparison. Love it. and helpfull. I do also prefer the cleaner look of the lg even though the asus looks amazing as well.

[@trashtbyghosts]

optimum out there killin it - thanks 4 making this one bro!

[@boost91]

The problem with getting information from Reddit or people's comments is that... Almost EVERYONE just craps on whatever they don't have... Hard to get good information that is good/objective..

[@DominicMalta]

I had a LG C3 42inch and upgraded to a LG OLED 45 inch Ultra Wide Screen with the Anti glare screen and didn’t like the way the anti glare screen looked vs the glossy C3 so I went back and return the LG Oled 45 inch Ultra wide and repurchase the LG C3 42 inch Oled

[@Tutku35]

That is what I am afraid of as well. I ve been rocking with C2 42inch and I love everything about it except being too large for desktop use. However I am almost sure, going for matte woled or semi-glossy qd-oled will make me sad about the exchange. We need 32inch WOLED with same polarizer application and full glossy as on TVs!

[@tomoziomo350]

Have you found text rendering on various oled screens to be a problem due to different pixel arrangements and cleartype? If so, have you found any solutions that you'd want to share in a video? As you said here, you percieve the text to be more pleasant on the matte screen and I have also noticed that, but there are still no good default settings for cleartype to show text sharply on some oleds and it seems like a huge oversight on microsoft's part considering the rise in popularity of oleds.

[@pcandgaming9684]

Don't watch The display guy. I feel like he acts on impulse. I appreciate your sincerity.

[@Louis.brnnnn]

yea this dude is just cringe

[@anthony631]

Excellent video and squashes a lot of the noise currently going on about these monitors. Really appreciate it!

[@fi5ke]

Great comparison.. really easy to see the difference

[@its-sottovoce]

Hello Optimum, much love from france!💙

[@randomdamian]

It's funny I saw a OLED monitor with Glossy and Matt, the glossy HDR pops so much more with the colors.

[@iDexy88]

because you see glossy qd oled, and qd oled have much more vibrant punchier color then woled

[@akaChriss4L]

I’ve got the 27GS95QE and it’s beautiful! Can use it during the brightest sunny days with blinds opened. I like my natural light. People who want glossy, don’t understand the amount of reflection they’ll get.

[@lukiohearn173]

Can you hear the fan Inside the Monitor?

[@akaChriss4L]

@@lukiohearn173 Not unless I have audio from speakers muted and I put my ear contactint the air vent.

[@Kerdtress]

​@@lukiohearn173 If you are sitting in a generell quiet room in front of your Monitor you can hear it. Yes, a little bit of sound, Music or an Open Window will overshadow it. But if you sometimes sit in silence then you can hear it. The worse part is actually the Violet somewhat reflective Bar at the Bottom of the Screen... But on the positive the LG was already very early available for good discount. The Corsair is Fanless and with an much Cleaner Design.

[@pookzs]

Thank you for the work you do

[@tintinwu4471]

I own a pg27aqdm as well as the mpg321urx, and I actually do feel the dark color looks better on the woled, especially the black and the dark colors, but with the glossy coating, the brighter image looks "brighter" and more clear. And if your lighting setup is on point, there won't be that much of a light reflecting on both coating,so I guess it comes down to preference. However, I am comparing between two different generations and different resolution, it might not be that big of a difference between the same generations though. PS: I do believe the LG model cost a little bit more since there's no MSI version to choose from.

[@midnight-xs4mt]

PERFECTLY TIMED HELL YEAAAAAAAAH

[@sjewkes1]

I think they should be more focused on WOLED vs. QD-OLED because that makes a much bigger impact on the experience, as you mentioned. WOLED handles reflections better at a very slight cost of color and peak brightness (which most won't notice) but offer reportedly less burn-in risk than QD-OLED and no triangle pixels. QD-OLED is more reflective and has slightly better color accuracy and peak brightness, but at the cost of a sub-optimal pixel layout and potentially slightly more burn-in risk.

[@CasepbX]

Actually WOLED has better overall brightness.

[@ms3862]

@@CasepbXnot in this video it doesn't lol. All the colors look brighter and have more contrast than the woled. And that's not just my subjective opinion it's backed up by factual review measurements. If you want my subjective opinion, as someone who owns a woled TV and a QD OLED monitor, when I put them side by side the HDR colors look significantly better on the QD

[@definingslawek4731]

Wish I could get qd oled colour volume with LG perfect blacks. (qd oled black levels are worse than LCD)@@Relex_92

[@boltup2220]

The matte finish on the LG is definitely the nicest ive seen. Regardless, a matte finish is a non-negotiable for me. I like to use my PC with natural light coming into my office/game room during the day. Not everyone likes sitting in dim/dark rooms most of the day.

[@MaxxDW]

Every single time Optimum uploads, it's about something I was looking at within the last week. His consistency to be on the same wavelength of stuff I'm thinking about is insane.

[@caramel4616]

Reddit's going to have a meltdown with this one.

[@nade5557]

I love how succinct your videos are whilst still articulating your full thoughts. The lowkey vibes make watching so relaxing. Also, your filming studio backdrop looks dope, the visual quality and clarity is always excellent. Keep doing what you're doing

[@teemohnay]

I currently own 5 OLED screens/TVs. I just swapped my samsung g9 QD oled for the LG WOLED. And I'm gunna have to agree. My room varies in light as I have multiple other devices and screens in my studio, as well as a window behind me and a window off to the side. The WOLED doesn't have the qd mirror effect, which can be very distracting. QD blacks lose depth once light is introduced. WOLED looks just as sharp/bright no matter the lighting conditions but has no mirror effect or loss of black depth under light. It's almost as if people just prefer a shiny look, no matter. But you missed a small point here. When the screens are off (as in not in use), I prefer the look of QD. The mirror effect on that deep black looks super high end. As where the WOLED doesn't look bad by any means, but doesn't have that shiny on black "pop". But, once you turn them on, basically the same performance minus how they handle reflections. There is no such thing as perfect yall. But these new screens are pretty wild if you can afford them. Just a matter of preference.

[@Vriess123]

Awesome video. I also saw a lot of comments that Matte was just trash. I was skeptical. I play a lot during the day, bad reflections can be a killer for me. I think the Woled will be the clear choice for me, higher brightness and better handling of light reflections.

[@shanksisnoteventhatstrongbruh]

i just want my WOLED monitor to have the same coating as my WOLED TV, it isn't that hard and i'm sure most of the "Matte on OLED=BAD" comments come from people with Glossy OLED TVs that want exactly that with their smaller displays. IDEK why Matte is the default for LG OLED monitors when the opposite happens for their TV, it is nonsensical.

[@TheBrandonAF]

Bingo. My 27GR95QE-B has an easily perceptible nasty oily coat. That doesn't mean it's not a good display. It's just not as good as my WOLED Glossy TV. I want that picture, at 4k and 240hz. I want to know, did they improve the matte finish on the new panels vs the old.

[@Tutku35]

I absolutely agree man. We prefer the glossiness of the polarizer layered LG C1/C2/C3 TVs. QD-Oled is not glossy IMO when you have a bright environment black levels are impacted while on LG TVs they are not and appear as inky blacks!

[@patrikmedia]

because matte is simply better dealing with reflections and people usually have more lights around when on a PC compared to watching movies in the living room. there is a reason why like 95% of monitors always use matte coatings, glossy coatings on monitors is actually quite rare with OLED being a niche exception, and iMacs.

[@Tutku35]

@@patrikmediaso here are my takes; - why there is so much rant and demand about glossy products then? - why oled TVs have it all the way super glossy and successful for generations? - why our mobile phones have it full glossy when we are basically using it outdoors with tons of light? I disagree with your argument as it is rather subjective but if you prefer matte, it is fine. It should not be generalized.

[@BartRovers_]

Exactly this. Even if it’s less matte or whatever it’s still not as good as glossy.

[@terrasai2857]

Hey Optimum, I would love to know your thoughts on OLED vs Mini-LED. I’ve been hesitant to get a OLED monitor because of burn-in and very low max brightness.

[@gudadryckful]

Matte is better for eye strain. If you’ve ever had eye strain the choice is easy

[@TheBrandonAF]

People are probably really questioning the matte finish on 32GS95UE-B and rather or not its the same as the GR line 27GR95QE-B for example? Original 240hz OLEDs matte finish just looks like a nasty oily coat at least when comparing to glossy WOLED TV's. It's not even close and easily perceptible. What I am asking is if the matte finish has improved on the new OLEDs or is it the same.

[@hugevibez]

Reports from the matte-critical crowd and the macro shot of this panel seem to indicate it's the same coating.

[@noidsuper]

@@hugevibezIf this is the case then I cannot possibly understand how Optimum does not see a difference when the problem has been so widely reported. It’s not just conjecture, many users of these previous monitors have made similar observations: oily and grainy coatings.

[@bren.r]

@@noidsuperagreed. Such a shame they ruined the appeal of this monitor with a matte coating. LG failed once again.

[@gigantoad3261]

There are too many different matte coatings. You cannot expect the consumer to test every single monitor to see if the coating it has is acceptable. Watching KZbinrs comment on coatings is not enough. We've had cases where one KZbinr says a coating isn't noticeable at all and another finds it unacceptably ugly. From that point of view it's maybe easier to understand why some want no coating. It will look amazing every time. It should simply be the default option not to obscure the image in any way. It is flabbergasting how manufacturers for so long thought that blocking reflections is more important than image quality when smartphones had glossy screens form the get go. Smartphones that we frequently use outside and walk around with, which makes lighting conditions uncontrollable and yet nobody ever gave a damn. But somehow we should worry about it with a monitor standing in one place in one room...

[@great_lake]

The thing with phone screens is that you can move them to avoid reflections at a moments notice. Also theyre usually so tiny that youre not gonna get a great viewing experience anyway and most reflections will uniformly take up the entire screen. Monitors, being larger, reflect way more different things in the room. I personally find it pretty distracting to have my face and upper body superimposed on my monitor the entire time and having a matte coating makes that much less severe. Its totally fine, if you dont have any problems with reflections in your room, but I dont get how matte coatings are supposed to be unnecessary. Especially since you can usually choose between options and the image quality loss is imperceptible on most coatings. Especially compared to glare.

[@gigantoad3261]

@@great_lake Move them to avoid reflections is only somewhat valid. For the most part, when you're outside you're not removing anything by moving it, everything is too bright. Our brains are great at removing reflections though. You can stand in front a shop window and see your reflection if you concentrate on it. By default you're just gonna see whatever is behind the window because that's what you're focusing on. Glossy monitors work like that as well. Not to mention, the mirror reflection is very dark, it's not actually like a normal mirror. If there's an image displayed on your screen you're not gonna see your reflection at all unless you specifically focus on it. I feel like most anti-gloss sentiments come from people who try it but are automatically in reflection-detection mode. If you were to just use it for a while you'd realize it's a non issue. Not to mention that anti-glare coating don't really remove reflections anyway, they just diffuse them. So instead you get large blurry blobs of light which can be just as distracting if you focus on them.

[@commandwolf713]

I give a damn because every phone I have ever owned has a matte screen protector. When I look at a screen (phone, monitor, TV, etc), I want to see what's on the screen. Not myself or whatever is behind me. I would gladly take a dip in quality that I will NOT see than a glossy coating/finish that I will DEFINITELY see.

[@gigantoad3261]

@@commandwolf713 Yeah hey, at least you go all the way. Kudos to you. That's not the vast majority of people though.

[@great_lake]

@@gigantoad3261 I mean fair enough. I dont really use my phone for anything I really want to have a good look at in the open anyway so its not like I mind the reflections much. With monitors its probably just different for individuals. I personally find diffuse reflections much easier to block out. Of course actual bright lights will suck whichever monitor you use. I just think its neat to have the option for both, even if it means theres more work in choosing a display. (Hey wouldnt it be great if there were like actual shops where you could compare different panels instead of every retailer moving all of their inventory online?)

[@PoRRasturvaT]

I have a upper end LG monitor, and its matte finish is fine for me in many scenarios, and definitely different from my old monitor. It's almost semigloss, and at 4k I perceive (important keyword) no loss of definition. I'm eyeing those 32"4k OLEDs and matte vsglossy will definitely NOT be for me the criteria to choose one of them. Price will be first I suppose.

[@salsa_ow]

Wonderful video as always

[@twitsik8966]

you look like a hunter main but I am glad you play warlock! We don't need more trigger happy folks running about the internet! lets do last wish or any raid at some point!

[@KentBurgess]

There are a couple of youtubers who will do nothing but bash any panel that isn't glossy. Unfortunately, they've gathered followers who take their words as gospel and follow suit, without having ever seen the panels in person. I'm really pleased to see someone with such a good reputation take a truly objective look at the topic and not simply dismiss a panel because it's not glossy. Just to show that I'm not personally biased in this debate, I recently picked up the Alienware AW3225QF, which is a semi-gloss QD-OLED. I wanted 4k OLED, but I also wanted a curved panel and that was the only game in town.

[@shotbyarian]

awesome, thanks for that video!

[@Xikari]

Amazing video! Really made me more confident in waiting for the 480hz 1440p LG panel coming :D (The wait is killing me tho >_< )

[@mrniffels]

This reminds me of the people that are judging headphones purely by their freq curve and nothing else

[@exactom6320]

graph sniffers

[@maozedowner5915]

Enlighten me. What else of a headphone are measurable in terms of quality? Not trying to fight here, truly wanted to know I bought a Moondrop Chu before truly based on its frequency curve and I kinda got let down by it. I feel that it makes my songs sound low resolution.

[@finbenton]

Or people just have preferences based on their past experiences of monitor panels.

[@Kelsi-2014]

​@@maozedowner5915I don't know about objective metrics, but the subjective sound profile is the most important thing to me. I don't care if a headset is objectively worse than another as long as it sounds better to me.

[@kylerclarke2689]

@@maozedowner5915 After spending thousands on headphones and selling almost all of them I realized that how a headphone makes you FEEL matters much more than frequency response, popularity or a KZbinr's opinion. Today I use galaxy buds 2 pro every day because they sound great to me. I have IEMs more expensive but when I use them it feels like they're missing something even though I know they are "objectively" great and every reviewer says they're perfect.

[@onicEQ]

I hate glossy screens. Any tiny light source will turn the screen into a mirror

[@butterNpants]

Thank god you’ve made this video as I’m trying to decide between these two exact monitors but was worried about the matte finish since I’m coming from a glossy qd oled but i like the look of the LG one more

[@EighthParadigm]

Great videos on the 4K OLEDs, not sure if you will see this but which panel are you using on a daily basis & which do you recommend. Thanks

[@ITrendzI]

I think you’re the only KZbinr that has compared these new gen monitors. All “matte” coatings are W OLED. And the ones that are glossy are QD OLED. So Im glad you pointed that out and gave us real world comparisons.

[@Valyn]

With the same black levels,I far prefer no color fringing over a tiny bit of sharpness.

[@definingslawek4731]

QD oled black levels are worse than LCD with any ambient light involved. It only has perfect 'oled' black in a pitch black room.

[@user-fg6mq3dg3d]

Its only sharper on a microscopic level, in a real life setting where Microsoft refuses to fix this issue the QD Oled is really bad with text clarity unless Microsoft actually makes it as "good" as it is in microscopic level

[@user-fg6mq3dg3d]

@@definingslawek4731 Yes unless you live like a goblin in a dark cave with 0% light glossy goes closer to grey than black.

[@necrojem6355]

Thank you for this video. There is no shortage of people shouting their opinions online from a place of ignorance, but too few making the comparison side by side.

[@not_3than]

it's so easy in the realm of monitors to just go with whatever the majority sense is, without there being actual real comparisons between 2 products, which is exactly what happened here. The LG monitor was completely out of my mind for consideration until I saw this video, since I fell subject to just thinking glossy is better than matte all the time. Having watched this video now, I think I prefer the matte compared to glossy, especially these 2 monitors you compared. Videos like these are a huge help and much appreciated!

[@Artibo.]

Insane video man, so cool, continue

[@Tottorul]

Glossy's clarity is still better, I prefer glossy on the QD oled, but the lack of fringing on the WOLED. can we have glossy woled?

[@MrM-dl5zm]

You won't notice fringing. Text is tack sharp same as you won't notice letter shadows on LG panels @ 4K

[@Deffine]

QD-OLED does not have a glossy coating, its semi-glossy. Even TFT Reviews site calls them semi-glossy. They have a slight haze in the coating. Its easy to see if you compare it to a glossy LG C2 for example.

[@Tottorul]

​@@Deffine Yes both monitors is somewhere inbetween

[@MrM-dl5zm]

@@Deffine Still its more "clearer" than matte, even optimum showed in his video macro shot. Best of both worlds. The only is lacking is polarizer that would be helpful for those who live in more lighten up rooms.

[@SVT_LIGHTNING]

@@Deffine Exactly! My Alienware 34" dwf everyone says its glossy but its not at all. It's matte still and prone to scratches so freaking easy. I completely removed my matte finish on my Alienware dwf qd-oled. Best thing I ever did. The colors pop so much more. Wasn't that hard to do either. Just a little time consuming.

[@bgamingxs]

How does optimum always drop bangers?

[@Un1234l]

Ikr. I reckon it's due to a great lifestyle mindset and philosophy. Careful, mindful, aiming for substance over flair.

[@bgamingxs]

​@@Un1234l nice analysis, well said

[@user-fg6mq3dg3d]

He is honest.

[@PieroValverde]

I had the same question when shopping for the steam deck oled. To me the biggest benefit of a glossy coating is that you can take the screen outside and you will struggle less with reflections. I personally got the matte screen since I don’t play outside

[@wazjoony]

Honestly both screens are beautiful, I'll take either :)) Keep up the great content Optimum!

[@theodoro89]

Nice video but honestly that comparison was more like "Semi-glossy" vs "Glossy" panels. The LG isn't matte and seems like the Asus isn't actually glossy as Apple displays or TVs.

[@TanteEmmaaa]

True, and the Samsung panels have, even if they are glossy, an anti-reflective coating that is superior to the LG glossy TV displays. The reflection are sharp, but darkened to a high degree on Samsung panels.

[@ArdentMoogle]

Isn't that his point? Matte screens aren't really matte anymore, at least for monitors.

[@TanteEmmaaa]

@@ArdentMoogle True

[@elliotpolanco159]

Exactly

[@elliotpolanco159]

​@@ArdentMoogleno that's dishonest, most mattes are cheap mush nonsense.

[@rikachiu]

I bought the S95D for the matte. It's excellent.

[@mrpickelhootfader1169]

i got the LG 27inch 240hyz OLED on marketplace for a steal! Love watching these videos after that hmm, i can really see difference between this and my ips secondary display

[@rare6499]

Excellent video thank you!!

[@darrendavies1102]

For me, this is an important blog you have made: as have seen other youtube bloggers who really hate the Matt finish: they have their opinions, but for real truth and with your results, im now, but only now don't have to worry about a Matte coating.. Thank you so much 😊

[@gwyenbleidd2151]

yeah but this is high end level "matte", not the typical ones.

[@Juice8767]

I’ve been super annoyed by with KZbinrs praising glossy coating while in studios. It is crazy hard to get a glossy screen or even a tv on a desk not to be obscured by reflections in normal houses.

[@faranocks]

@@gwyenbleidd2151 I greatly prefer matte finishes. I get headaches with glossy panels, and I always have a light on behind me. I personally think the glossy vs matte is overblown a little bit, but I also am not the target audience for most of these panels, and would prefer a 1080p 360hz TN panel over a 165hz 4k OLED.

[@MrM-dl5zm]

@@Juice8767 Thats why you watch marketing youtubers rather than reading comprehensive tests. check RTINGS review for AW3225QF and see "reflection handling" you would be surprised how good it is for the same semi glossy finish as on Asus model.

[@ProfessorJohnny69]

@@Juice8767 Yeah, I have a LG C1 and it's a shiny black mirror. I'm not sure if I'd want to have a monitor with the same finish in my room.

[@royk.9347]

need a tour of that optimum cave asap!

[@Dr0pl3er1]

I was totally on team glossy, and where putting off buying av oled monitor until I found a glossy oled. I was under the impression that glossy had a lot better colors because of the matte film overlaying the screen. There have been made countless videos about this stating glossy has a lot better colors. But I guess this have changed since with oleds having batter matte finishes on the screens now? A 1st gen oled panel vs new gen could be a interesting comparison video

[@GloriousMajed]

Hey optimum love the videos! I would love to see a review on the updated version of the LG27GR95QE the LG27GS95QE. I’ve heard it fixed all the problems the previous version had.

[@alighanem3416]

I’ve tried both and oh boy I’ve been missing out a lot by not having a glossy screen. The difference is huge, pictures feel lifelike especially in HDR.

[@MrM-dl5zm]

People are just not realizing this and listen to marketing youtuber and end result is the comments section below.

[@jamesmcjamesington631]

The entire video you watched just explained how that's not a glossy vs matte thing. The panel brightness, contrast, and quality are highly likely to be responsible for the way you feel about that monitor, dude.

[@chy.0190]

@@jamesmcjamesington631 yep its just WOLED vs QD-OLED, nothing to do with it being matte or semi-glossy.

[@alighanem3416]

@@jamesmcjamesington631 I had a neo g8 which is miniLED and it’s brightness is far superior than any other type of panel, but its matte finish made it look like it’s oily and dirty. There’s a weird rainbow hue on whites. So yeah it’s not only “the brightness and contrast”

[@noidsuper]

@@chy.0190 But that just isn’t the case. Users of glossy LG OLEDs TVs immediately notice how poor matte WOLEDs look. Hell, a consistent complaint for WOLED monitors with LG panels was the distinctly noticeable oily look the matte coating gave them. This isn’t just a WOLED vs QD-OLED thing.

[@marcopfeiffer3032]

Can you please disable clear type for WOLED? It makes me sad to see so many reviews not seeing how sharp text can be on it when it's not sabotaged.

[@Rhialto]

I would like to see such a comparison too.

[@jamesmcjamesington631]

This is a quite niche preference.

[@marcopfeiffer3032]

​@@jamesmcjamesington631 Sure, but WOLED have near perfect text rendering if you disable clear type. I own the old 27" LG OLED, where ClearType looked much worse.

[@lalitsharma8622]

@@jamesmcjamesington631 It actually isn't if you consider the fact that tech took 2 decades to give us mass produced OLED monitors where clear type trickery might not be needed

[@tsdbhg]

Would you please show the off axis differences? I'm aware that the center of the monitor is perpendicular and your findings reflect that, but the edges of the monitor are off axis. I'm interested in how much each coating type will affect the image the further away it is from a perpendicular viewing angle.

[@fischkin454]

Optimum if you see this - Another hot topic in monitors is how much curve is correct which monitors commonly ranging from 800r to 1800r - would be great to see a video like this on that topic as well. Either way thank again for another extremely helpful video.

[@sethbalderson]

I live in a basement level apartment. The room my setup is in has no windows so I'm using all artificial lighting. The slight matte coating on my OLED is a lifesaver. Especially at night when there is no ambient sunlight coming through the doorway.

[@daviddave8761]

hey whats the Matter?