Finishing a Bowl with CRAYONS?! | Turning Tuesday #8

[@MattEstlea]

Wenge = Wen-gay Stone Henge = Stone Hen-gay

[@MattEstlea]

I'm just stirring trouble. Thank you all for letting me know the correct pronunciation, it's a common thing to pronounce it the way I do. Especially in the UK. Out of habit and to rustle some jimmies, I'll probably continue to pronounce it the way I do. I much refer one syllable words nowadays...

[@manuelclm2324]

Xd

[@doubledarefan]

@@MattEstlea +1 one-syllable words. Maybe really stir it up with a wooden hinge made from Wenge.

[@robohippy]

Well, maybe because I don't speak English, I only speak American..... Always heard it pronounced when gee, with a hard g. You can do the came coloring the pores with ash, or any open grain wood. Used to live wiping oil on ash bowls that had a lot of walnut dust in/on them.

[@davidkoenig8659]

I saw on television a wood turner finishing his product by using crayons> While the finished urn was ready for the application of wax or whatever varnish used for the end product, he had the urn spinning on the lathe, he took a solid crayon to the turning urn applied it and it buffed up, and the result was a color that was awesome in depth. I wish I could remember him he was a kid still in high school and he I think lived in Wisconsin U.S.A.

[@bulkhead]

That looks amazing. Almost like a tropical fish in a coral reef.

[@schlaubiderzweite2144]

Matt, thank you for running over your time schedule! Enjoying your videos.

[@timeverett5482]

Looks great Matt!!!!

[@itsblowecuz]

Didn’t feel rushed! Great job!

[@DoughnutBoardingBros]

That looks beautiful

[@MattEstlea]

Cheers! :)

[@thomasarussellsr]

I love the effect of the crayon finish. What a stellar idea. Nice!

[@chm1701]

I really liked the result. It worked so well. Also, since I’ve been watching bowl turning videos, I’ve not had chance to see how the turner knows how close the bottom is getting, so they don’t go through it... now I do. Great job, Matt and such an awesome result. Nice 👍

[@henrysiegertsz8204]

What's not to like about your brilliant videos Matt? Great little bowl and effective looking finish!

[@MikeBramm]

Wow, that looks really cool, and so simple to accomplish.

[@wb_finewoodworking]

That turned out looking great. Your turning skills have improved dramatically. I’m enjoying this series.

[@MattEstlea]

We’re getting there!

[@richardgoebel226]

I was skeptical about how it would turn out but I am really impressed enough to try it myself. Well done, Matt.

[@MattEstlea]

So was I! Cheers Richard :)

[@applebutter4036]

Looks awesome

[@MattEstlea]

Cheers mate :)

[@AutotechWoodworking]

This is from the Rare Woods USA website; "Panga Panga is the first cousin to Africa’s more popular and well-known exotic, Wenge (with both trees being of the Millettia genus) - sharing a similar large pored, course texture, and presenting some of the same challenges when working. It is generally a bit lighter colored, with heartwood ranging from the lighter to darkers sides of medium brown, with dark brown to black streaks and/or highlighted grain lines. Darker examples can be easily confused with Wenge, and they have been known to turn almost black as they age." BTW, that finish is giving me some ideas. Nice video and really nice looking bowl Matt.

[@MattEstlea]

Ah I did notice it was slightly lighter than usual! Particularly the orange strip through the middle. I have learned something today 😂

[@markharris5771]

Your best Turning Tuesday so far, it looked incredibly beautiful.

[@realjester]

Really like the finish have to try it out 👍👍👍

[@artisanstiles9968]

That turned out grate! I really like the finish I will definitely give it a try .

[@moonwolf7135]

Looks cool Matt, you did a great job

[@DebsHill1]

i wasn’t sure i was going to like turning tuesday’s. however after watching since the start it has grabbed my interest to the point where i’m thinking i would like to have a go at this.

[@DebsHill1]

also loved the finish

[@SirBenJamin_]

That cognition project always reminds me of one of those things. You know ... those things

[@neobaggins3718]

Dat Alec Steele shirt!

[@mrgibbs7710]

I like this crayon phase you're going through

[@Psychlist1972]

That finish could be really interesting with metallic crayons. The blue is cool, too.

[@aussanadian]

Bloody hell mate that looks shit hot!!! Great stuff.

[@C_L_Thomas]

You're experiments turn out a lot better than my experiments. Lovely.

[@OlivierVerdier]

Very nice try Matt, looks gorgeous ! See you at Makers Central ?

[@Matt_E_96]

Now a lacquer finish would be great to keep that finish in place

[@garywalshe4726]

its pitch spray some white spirit on your tooling before turning stops the pitch buildup on them same as with with pitch pine and any other high resin woods mate

[@benaubrey2350]

Can't wait to see this Watched it looks cool

[@Dolko71]

Starting to get the hang of the turning thing man! At first look, it looks bonkers with blue color on this beautiful wood, but the end result was amazing. Good choice, and fun to see something ”outside the box”. //Donald

[@barryirby8609]

I like the bowl and the finish, but I think I would have tried colored chalk and then applied a finish over it rubbing both in on the lathe. May I offer a turning tip? Put as piece of masking tape on the front of your lathe's bed or ways, flush with the top edge. Then you can use a square sitting on the ways and square the face of the chuck down to the tape. Turn the bowl and square the lip of the bowl down. Now you know the depth of the bowl from the jaws to the rim. With a straight edge across the bowl, measure the internal depth and check that against the tape. Now you know the thickness of the bottom without removing the bowl and remounting it. Easier to do than explain.

[@nielskvist9222]

You did a great job Matt! It looks awesome :o looking forward to the next video ;)

[@jeffhiggins4478]

You could probably just melt the crayons onto the bowl while it’s running. Just run the crayon all over the surface and heat it up by holding a paper towel to it. That should fill in the grain very uniformly.

[@meetn2veg]

Gorgeous piece of wood! Must be solid 'cos of how thin you got the sides. Damn good effort matey!! :-)

[@hurcorh]

wenge is Millettia laurentii and panga panga is Millettia stuhlmannii. Very similar appearance. Panga Panga has slightly lighter tones in my experience but more obvious oxidation / color change over time when left unfinished.

[@haitchycook]

Yes please!!! 🙋🏼‍♀️🙋🏼‍♀️🙋🏼‍♀️🙋🏼‍♀️

[@MattEstlea]

I’ll make you another. Rosie’s mums already had this one! 😂

[@Murphyslawfarm]

G'day Matt what do you think about trying stone carving for a video.

[@withdrew1591]

Panga Panga and Wenge are slightly different but the trees are very close relatives

[@katzhunter4473]

Wenge correctly pronounced `When-gay` ;)

[@btlxguitars7606]

Google says Wenge and Panga Panga are different species, but very closely related... I had to look it up

[@woodturnerjosh]

I could be mistaken but it looked like you were turning the outside backwards (rim of the bowl to foot) you should always to from the foot to rim of the bowl as this lays the fibres down and cuts them cleanly (general rule). Going backwards could explain the difficulties you had and it is Silica in the timber that kills cutting edges. If you think Wenge is hard to turn you should try some Australian Turpentine! ;) Great result though!!!

[@ebwoodwork]

I've done that before with the screws. Not fun.

[@nicmasterdude]

It's silica, jatoba is rife with it. It's that pore structure in the grain, sucks it right up! Beautiful bowl.

[@MattEstlea]

Sweet! I knew I’d heard it somewhere

[@MattEstlea]

And thank you! :)

[@DoubleRhonRhon]

Hi did you make a review on your tormek ?

[@sifibuckle]

Please, please, please stop leaving your key in the lathe jaws. As a mechanic it is a safety trigger and it sends shivers down my spine ever time I see you do it. Beside that awesome work. You are coming along and the work is looking epic.

[@sparthir]

I know that Jarrah is high in silicates that will blunt tools. Also, I like the Alec Steele top. :)

[@jamesjames_07]

Are you repairing your cabinet?

[@Matt36954]

Is that an Alec Steele shirt I see?

[@joeytheghost4211]

Do I spy Alex steel merch?

[@TheCHRISCaPWN]

Interesting. I've always heard it pronounced "when-gee." I wonder if that is just an American pronunciation, or if I've always just been wrong... 🤔 Probably the later. 🤷‍♂️😂

[@C_L_Thomas]

I am a when-gee person also. You're not alone.

[@diowk]

I say it like "when-gay"

[@henrysiegertsz8204]

WhenGay, sounds more like an African word. I think Wenge, like Zebrano, is part of the Ebony family, very dense, very hard and has high content of Silica to help dull your tools with unprecedented efficiency. Loved the video though, how say you?

[@AlBorland3877]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millettia_laurentii "(/ˈwɛŋɡeɪ/ WENG-gay)"

[@murphymmc]

@@henrysiegertsz8204 Wenge (/ˈwɛŋɡeɪ/ WENG-gay)

[@m032682daniel]

it's 'when-gay' i think. i use it for knife scales and i remember looking up it's correct pronunciation.

[@909sickle]

CRAAAYONS?? WHAA?!?! TOTALLY TUBULAR TUESDAY You'll have to report back on the durability of the crayon finish over time.

[@MattEstlea]

Woah man that’s a waaaaay catchier title!

[@thomasarussellsr]

Unless a seal coat is put over it it would likely rub off, to an extent, when handled.

[@heyimamaker]

That would be a cool effect if it were to glow!

[@benfox9382]

Sadly the lightened pores cheapens the luxury of wenge, bringing it more akin to coconut... that's just my thoughts anyway. Thanks for sharing!

[@MattEstlea]

Ah there’s plenty of Wenge bowls out there. May as well dye one blue for lols

[@benfox9382]

@@MattEstlea for sure! nice work, and great video production. Keep 'em coming boyo!

[@benrudman3917]

Turning Tuesday is like my wood porn. This turned out awesome. I can’t wait to try turning one day. Nothing against your buddy, but it was nice to see your music and editing back. His is great also but you do a bang up job. -Ben

[@diowk]

I hate the crayon effect! I think it's horrible but you made a very nice bowl though 😊

[@thewoodworkingmetalhead2712]

Noice.

[@Ivo.Outdoor]

How that “turned out”

[@_rekoty]

Whatcha doin' with cognition?

[@jeremyt1917]

What screws are you using? If you are using something akin to drywall screws, they are strong and hard, but because of that they are also more brittle, so they will break off with more torque. Stainless steel screws are winners in this venue!

[@Jack-ws3os]

There axminster woodspur torx woodscrews

[@Kikilang60]

I've been told often that it's a myth that some woods are so hard they damage tools. I guess it's not a myth.

[@mattsadventureswithart5764]

Not the hardness. Silica content. Palm wood incredibly damaging.

[@mylesjohnston8759]

Whats cognition doing on your bench?!

[@nicmasterdude]

We need to know!!

[@chrishb7074]

Is that a Cognition 2.0? Re-Cognition?

[@deansnipah2895]

Finkle is to Einhorn as panga panga is to wenge

[@benfox9382]

laces out!

[@SkylersRants]

Interesting idea, but it looks like someone melted crayons in your really nice wood. I'll pass, but thanks for showing it.

[@SirBenJamin_]

When you ever next use Aluminium, you should pronounce it the American way. That'll tigger em.

[@thomasarussellsr]

Actually, there is no second "i" in Aluminum.

[@Psychlist1972]

"Wenge" is pronounced weng-gay, not rhyming with Henge. :)

[@skinnypunter]

Good to see I'm not the only pronunciation policeman around!

[@Psychlist1972]

@@skinnypunter I do it only so other people don't take their cues from the video. Hopefully not being too police-y in approach.

[@markg8972]

its pronounced wenge or wenje

[@murphymmc]

Wenge (/ˈwɛŋɡeɪ/ WENG-gay)

[@MattEstlea]

Gaddamit. I’ll I must have been pronouncing Stone Henge wrong this whole time. I’ll go to Stone Hen-gay instead 😘

[@andymalnar7750]

Panga Panga is Wenge

[@EvulDali]

They are from the same family but quite different woods. No, panga panga is not wenge. Sometimes shady wood dealers will try to convince you that it`s the same but it`s not. They don`t even look the same. Panga panga latin name is Millettia stuhlmannii and wenge is Millettia laurentii.

[@andymalnar7750]

@@EvulDali in all fairness to genetics, yes. central and western Africa vs northern Africa i believe. still, as far as appearence and workability goes, since they are from the same genus of plant and have the same tendencies and attributes they are for all practical purposes the same save for price from a shady type as you mentioned. i have both here at home in planks and slabs for my guitar buildings and side by side, even 2 pieces of wenge have subtle differences in appearence as does any wood. it was once a living organism and no 2 are identical in view.