Matthew Lillard (Dead Meat Podcast Ep. 225)

[@iheartbusterk82]

I just know that James and Chelsea of 7 years ago would be floored by this episode. I’m so happy for them.

[@kastro8065]

Imagine telling them that in a single 24 hour stretch, they would have released a T-Pain music video they produced AND had Matthew Lillard on the podcast.

[@iheartbusterk82]

@@kastro8065I bet they never would’ve believed it. It would seem like an impossible fantasy.

[@funkyrumble0455]

Shit I think CURRENT James and Chelsea are

[@GRAHFXENO]

Imagine telling 2017 James & Chelsea that they'd have to turn down Jamie Lee Curtis to officiate their wedding cause they already had Heather Langenkampt doing it.

[@GRAHFXENO]

@@Holden-cl1ck You keep trolling Dead Meat with stupid ass comments, and now you're making a baseless and ridiculous claim. Stop being a coward. Just say you're jealous already.

[@Unfinishedthoughts]

The sheer enthusiasm Molly had for Mathew was wonderful to see.

[@ReINKarnate1]

Even the pets get it 😊

[@OMGLX]

And vice versa!

[@everwix7692]

The man, the myth, the legend himself has finally appeared on the show!!! You guys have gone so far!!!

[@grantpowell4135]

It would be amazing if they got Kane hodder on next But thank you for matt being on. It was a genuine pleasure

[@Kevmaster2000]

He will forever be Shaggy. The dude has voiced him for 14 years in animation, and of course played him 20 years ago in live action. Love him as Stu also.

[@oopirates96]

He was great in SLC Punk also.

[@jacksondavis6327]

He was amazing in Senseless

[@DragonT1]

He was in he’s all that as well

[@nvm9040]

He was Tim in the Curve

[@theinternetofficer6594]

are we forgetting hes the man behind the slaughter?

[@scxba]

Shaggy Afton-Macher 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾

[@Shreksmustache]

Literally

[@SCREAMEDITZ97]

He’s a horror icon

[@RikkiReeseCup24]

Matthew Lillard, the perfect guest. I’ll be surprised if this doesn’t become their most-watched interview.

[@menoguchi]

Not only an interview, but a whole-ass podcast episode! Matthew seems like such a cool, down-to-earth chill guy

[@giarralopez]

i legitimately teared up when this episode was announced. after becoming a fan of drunk disney when i was 12, the transition over to dead meat is what introduced me to horror. listening to this podcast helped me fall in love with the genre, and is genuinely such a big reason i changed my major to screen studies this year. and now, 20 minutes after submitting my first essay specifically on the horror genre, this served as a reminder of how much things can grow in such a short amount of time. i'm so so happy for you guys!!

[@des1279]

From a fellow horror fan and film student who also got inspired by this channel, I hope you do amazing out there in the industry, whatever it is you end up doing!

[@giarralopez]

@@des1279 that is so so kind thank u! and you as well!

[@ryanjanis9184]

From an older horror fan, who has also been a fan of these guys for awhile, I wish you nothing but success in your journey. You seem like a genuine person and I liked your comment, good luck out there.

[@layobas96]

😭😭😭💖💖💖💖

[@giarralopez]

@@ryanjanis9184 thank u that's so lovely!

[@黃柏樺-i8i]

Molly going up to Matthew Lillard is the best thing ever

[@LuckyBones77]

I was absolutely not expecting to cry while watching this, but he’s being shockingly vulnerable in this interview. Those feelings of ‘what am I without my work’ and ‘when is it better to give up’ are things I’m feeling right now, and hearing him talking through those having come out the other side has me more hopeful than I’ve felt in months.

[@90cta395]

Sorry to hear that, I hope that things continue to turn around for you!

[@andyg4929]

Just keep going, you have no idea what the future is going to hold for you!

[@ReINKarnate1]

Man I'm so sorry you're going through that and those quite frankly super shitty feelings but I'm glad you have something like this here from people you love that you can find a way to relate to and I hope things get better for you 🙏🙏

[@Vashish666]

I cannot thank Chelsea enough for bringing up SLC Punk. The fact that Matthew has such a great relationship with that movie is absolutely heartwarming to me. Such an important movie to me as a teen, and a movie that ages with you so well. Thank you both so much for making this interview happen.

[@benjamin4099]

Recently met and got Matthew's autograph for me and my wife's horror anniversary autograph book. Got married on Halloween, and we now collect autographs from our favorite horror icons. Such a wonderful person and he was so kind.

[@tazernatic]

his voice is so comforting i could listen to it all day! happy for you guys for scoring this interview, it felt like a talk between friends haha

[@RogersBase]

His episode of Twin Peaks was one of the BEST of the entire revival series! Awesome get, you two!

[@DeadMeatPresents]

Oh shit hey Roger!!

[@jackroberts4361]

Was not expecting to see you here Roger! A fellow fan of Twin Peaks no less!

[@DelphicSpinsterIndagatrix]

23:35 Molly, please, don't stare into my soul like that.

[@makeupbydoubledeez]

Tell me why this comment popped up right when she was looking 😂

[@Emeowy]

I love how Molly just went to demand pets at 2:58 I was hoping yall would be able to get Matthew on here hes one of my favorite people :)

[@robineras477]

Dogs just know when people are great. Molly gets it

[@Bluebitemarks]

As someone who has struggled w addiction and lost a best friend to an OD, bobs death in slc punks and the way Matthew plays it feels like it pulled the tears out of me. The “I wasn’t ready” was absolutely harsh

[@isabelleassaf589]

as a young actor trying to break into the industry, hearing Matthew be so open with his struggles is so reassuring to me, like if MATTHEW LILLARD was just recently struggling in the industry but then ended up back in success, maybe there’s hope for me❤ Thank you Matthew, and thank you James and Chelsea!

[@lovestumacher]

Grew up watching Matthew play my favorite Scooby-Doo character, and now he’s my favorite Ghostface too! So glad you finally got him on the podcast, this is freaking awesome!!!

[@WookieeRandy]

Truly a testament to how far Dead Meat has come since the start, Matthew freaking Lillard is on it👏🏼✌🏼

[@harveyburton7]

A man of my childhood from playing Stu in Scream to shaggy in scooby doo films. Two slightly different films but both great. Can't believe we get to see Matthew Lillard on the dead meat podcast. Let's go. It's going to be a scream.

[@nvm9040]

If you like Stu from Scream then check out Dead Man’s Curve or the Curve because it has a character named Tim played by Lillard that acts like Stu

[@therandomplushchannel4520]

I’ll be back!!!!! -Matthew Lillard, Scream

[@brokenfilmproductions2786]

Had the pleasure of meeting Mr. Lillard a few weeks back at ScareFest and he is a class act. Super kind, down to earth guy who is deserving of all the praise he gets. Psyched you guys got this interview!

[@M.Babadook]

Yes! So excited, I love Matthew Lillard. Matthew Lillard + Dead Meat = Awesome Wednesday morning. I loved SLC Punk as a teen and still love it in a different way at the age of 36.

[@CTEagleCeltic]

Haven’t watch SLC since 2006… gotta revisit that 1.

[@richardgreathead5735]

As someone who basically went through the Stevo journey with punk that film will always be film I associate him with

[@Ghostinthemeadow]

Only 18 seconds in and was already squealing that they got to interview him in person on their set 🖤 just so happy for them

[@rileytipper5110]

I audibly screamed from excitement when I saw the notification pop up on my phone. My co workers looked at me like I was a psycho. Couldn’t be happier for James and Chelsea

[@brockbuster]

That means Matthew Lillard was at their house!!

[@jaderabbitart7316]

You all touching my heart and Matthew literally making me cry with how deep his responses are. I relate so hard with that struggle of constantly being anxious about the longevity of my career as an artist. I hope I can do good with the experience he shared in applying it to my own life. ❤

[@90cta395]

Anyone who makes art makes the world a better place. Hang in there and believe in yourself!

[@jacobhumphrey3535]

Kudos to Mr Lillard, one of my favorite character actors, a prolific voice actor. Genuinely love the guy and his energy.

[@harveyburton7]

Feel like best fart in a horror movie now has to be added to the dead meat horror awards always presented by Matthew Lillard

[@130_]

autocorrect lol

[@MrUrkel0730]

This is canon now

[@tylerharris1443]

Always loved Matthew Lillard as an actor, but- he seems like such a cool person! I love how this stopped being an interview early on and became a genuinely a great conversation. It's so cool when an artist feels as passionately about their work as their fans

[@damonterrell27]

Matthew is so down to earth and kind. This was a great interview! Thanks James and Chelsea for showing a side of the horror realm we don’t get to see often ❤

[@crashtorus]

man, hearing matt talk about his near misses of big block busters is fucking wild. slc punk is still one of my favorite pieces of cinema of all time. without a paddle was beyond funny. Scooby doo was my childhood. not to mention all the other things hes brought his brilliance to. in my books he's one of the greatest actors of all time. it sucks he never truly got the 100% full credit he deserves for the masterpieces hes been a part of.

[@sheqaa_here2991]

He is just the sweetest human. There’s something so cute and wholesome to see him in their house with his shoes off chatting and petting Molly ❤

[@sagecorduroy]

the chat about *SLC Punk* made me so happy; it’s one of my favorite films of all time and now yall got me all choked up (,:

[@rfar21]

Mathew Lillard is a national treasure. This is easily my favorite guest on this channel. He seems like such a nice and humble fellow. Wish him nothing but the best. Congratulations Chelsea and James, you deserve this and much more. Thanks for this amazing content.

[@cheetos1231000]

I was waiting for Matthew to leave the room and say "I'll be right back!" This was seriously an awesome podcast.

[@autumnjostaggs5130]

One of the best weekends of my life was meeting Matthew lillard at a convention. Literally nicest guy in the world! 13 year old me was geeking out so hard! ❤️

[@RickyReviews]

Matthew has always been such a sweetheart and interesting guy all around. I hope one day I'll get to meet him because he seems like one of the few exceptions to the "never meet your heroes" trope. Love this episode!

[@OMGLX]

This is my first Dead Meat interview and damn, I've got to go check out all the other ones I've missed. James and Chelsea do such a great job of having it be a casual conversation, while still hitting pertinent points and topics. Something I love about many of my favorite interviewers. It also helps that Matthew seems like SUCH a deeply cool person. I came away from this with a much greater appreciation for him and his craft. Stellar work, y'all!

[@PlatypusProductions55]

I'm very grateful to have been able to meet Matthew earlier this month at Scarefest, and man, it was a highlight. He couldn't have been nicer, and he even offered me a hug! Super great guy and super glad to see him on the podcast!

[@AmeliaThornhill-tz7ot]

Stevo from Slc Punk is still my favorite role of his. Love Matthew Lilliard so much.

[@theletstalkhorrorchannel]

The added bonus of having one of the coolest dudes ever Matthew lillard on this episode is so fun

[@tombess2673]

Had the pleasure of meeting Matthew Lillard some years back at Spooky Empire in Orlando and he's been the gold standard of celebrity / convention encounters ever since. Quick story: There was a father in front of me with his son who was maybe nine or ten and clearly nervous about the noise, hullabaloo, and whatnot. ML clocks this the instant they walk up, breaks into the Shaggy voice and in the course of a few minutes probably made a core memory not just for the kid, but his dad as well. Afterward he signed my Scream script and we had a quick, congenial conversation about ideal beard length. Kudos and congratulations for Chelsea and James for putting this together, it's a most excellent cap for the month of October.

[@kevinrox666]

I met Matthew Lillard at Texas Frightmare weekend and he was so awesome! As with most conventions it was only a couple minutes to talk, but he was very nice. He autographed a picture of him in 13 Ghosts for me.

[@slowmotion171]

Meeting Matthew Lillard is my number 1 bucket list item. The amount of joy and growth I've experienced through this man over the years is mind numbing to me.

[@ViaEarly]

They didn’t even introduce him, they just started the conversation and kept going. I love love loveddd this episode 🩷

[@limeboum]

I met James and Chelsea at horror hound and they REALLY made me feel like they wanted to talk to me, I definitely didn't feel like just a transaction ❤️ the sweetest people

[@kardmaster77]

All the talk about fan recognition and staying for signings resonated with me because I think recognizing how important the fans are and that experience warms my heart.

[@lexiesmychynsky]

I’m so obsessed with James and Chelsea tapping each other and giving comforting arm rubs when something personal comes up. God they are so wholesome.

[@scoochin_]

found myself getting emotional a few times listening to this episode, such a delight to see and hear Matthew with James and Chelsea! ♡ thank y’all for another great conversation ♡

[@Zenlore6499]

I can only imagine how freaking pumped you guys felt being able to do this! Look at how far you’ve come!

[@hamzadawud]

From staying in Stu Macher's house to having him in your house, you guys have truly made it.

[@kareningram6093]

When I heard Matthew Lillard was cast in the FNAF movie, that was when I got excited about it. I could not imagine somebody better to play Afton. And he nailed it, of course. I'm so glad he's such a good, chill dude in real life, too.

[@michaelclarkj]

Matt dives in so fast he doesn’t even let them properly introduce him. So adorable. My goodness this episode is such a positive vibe.

[@darthxerxes5468]

I will never be able to express in words the amount of joy this man brought me throughout my life. as a kid i always loved him wether its Scooby Doo, Scream, Hackers, I always loved the movies he is in.

[@AaronR88]

My all time favorite actor. Scooby was such a big player in my childhood and I thank him for bringing it to like action. He did such a great job carrying shaggys legacy and Casey Kasem would be so proud. I remember the first time I watched scream and has been my favorite franchise because of the set up in the first movie. It’s amazing how watching that movie for the 10000000th time you still catch something new. My favorite summer comfort film is Without a paddle. I often blare hold on loosely with my boys and we sing like Matt, Dax and Seth. Seriously Matt thank you so much for sharing today. You have been awesome to watch succeed on film.

[@12oshinko]

Love that Matthew still overflows with enthusiasm mid-sentence Also, everybody loves Bard

[@pppppwuei]

omg man mattew lillard was my literal child hood. from a baby when i would cry and scream and make a scene yelling for my mom to put scream '96 back on, to scooby doo, to slc punk, god i can name everything

[@planticassy]

not to be that annoying "oh i knew them BEFORE they were popular" person but i've watched you guys since i was nine with unregulated internet access (i wasnt allowed to watch horror movies, so it was my alternative) and still tune in every week as a teenager now. you guys make me so unbelievably happy and this episode really shows how this channel has grown

[@tuckershuff1441]

Got a photo op with him while I was in my Stu cosplay. He held the knife while I had the phone. Such a nice guy and I'm glad to see him on the podcast.

[@PixarNerdStudios]

Matthew Lillard is the one person that I really want to meet at a con. He seems like such a genuine and nice person.

[@SilkyC]

Look, there aren't a lot of celebrities I want to meet. Matthew Lillard is one of them! What an amazing interview!! Side note, I know so many people hate on Thirteen Ghosts but my god I loved that movie and Matthew Lillard was the highlight (and the pratical effects). It put him on that "I would love to meet this man" pedestal.

[@JayDineroBandz]

👌🏿

[@charapresscott7750]

The episode is only like 20 seconds in and I'm crying. I love Lillard so much

[@danshipman6099]

I love Matthew Lillard so much, what a sweet down to earth guy, also love you guys James and Chelsea, what a great conversion that was so insightful and heartfelt

[@bignath250688]

Finally Matthew Lillard has been on the podcast. He is an angel. What an absolute legend. We love him. Wish he could do like a collab kill count one day.

[@awake1251]

This is elite content. They both seem so comfortable. Lillard is an international treasure. I’d so much rather watch this kind of interview than a late night talk show format.

[@christymielke4051]

This is so awesome!! I also just have to say Molly is a star. Her staring into the camera, demanding pets, just being generally adorable. A plus, 5⭐️. I would die for her.

[@agentbarton8972]

I don't watch horror films because I'm too squeamish/jumpy, and I don't consume podcasts because my mind tends to wander. However, I consistently watch Dead Meat content because James, Chelsea and Zoran are always such fun to watch and all the behind-the-scenes info they offer about how movies are made is so interesting. But this one was particularly special to me as I'm a huge Scooby Doo fan. To me, Shaggy will always be Lillard's defining role, but it's awesome to see what a respected figure he is in the horror community. The journey Dead Meat has gone on over the years has been amazing, and despite the often gory content watching this channel invariably brings a smile to my face, especially when I get to see you interact with great people like Matthew who clearly share your passion.

[@DeadedGamers]

Man you already know I was pumped for this episode!

[@ibeghosten7504]

Matthew feels like hes at home talking to friends by how smooth the conversations flow and this is easily the best ep so far

[@crooked_letters]

Omg thank y’all for bringing up SLC Punk. I’m 35 and got into punk when I was around 13 or 14 and that movie was such a pivotal moment in my life. I didn’t get into horror until after and when I saw Scream for the first time I remember thinking “Oh, that’s the guy from SLC Punk!!!” Thank you Matthew for continuing to bless us. Will always be one of my favorite actors and I’ll watch any movie he is in.

[@divinex9671]

As a person trying to get into acting and voice acting, this specific interview is such powerful advice from Matthew and Chelsea. Love you Dead Meat!

[@MichaelMichael-us6wq]

William Afton: Ill always be back Stu Matcher: They’ll always be back Shaggy: Zoinks Scoob! They keep coming back!!!

[@zohdiak8959]

i’ve been crying from the start of this video lmao as a person who found dead meat after their second ever upload, monster palooza 2017 btw ;), seeing them at the level they are now is unreal. so unproblematic, so thoughtful, so kind, so genuine… literally everything you could ask for in a creator, the dead meat crew brings. im so proud of you guys and everything you’ve accomplished! continue to be good people❤

[@JakeSpyTheNewEra]

Everyone else: I love him as Stu. Me: Like Zoinks, Scoob! I love his Shaggy.

[@130_]

Me: I always come back

[@SCREAMEDITZ97]

@@130_he has great quotes from every role

[@haunted_muffin]

I loved him in Serial Mom 😂

[@laurajames9379]

I didn’t realise how much I needed to see Matthew Lillard in James chair on the podcast set… what a great guy. James and Chelsea must of been freaking out haha

[@2kooldancin]

The shout out to Wing Commander! That was the one that really got my attention and then I saw Serial Mom, Scream, and 13 Ghosts. And then I saw She’s All That! These were the movies that cemented Matthew Lillard as one of my favorites. Another honorable mention is Without a Paddle. 😂

[@hiimmoco]

You guys are awesome and really deserve to get this far! I can't wait to see what else you guys can achieve!!!

[@nyxxnocturna]

Watching Dead Meat over the last 6 years and seeing this channel evolve brings me such happiness. I actually had tears in my eyes when i saw this pop up on my timeline, knowing how special Scream is to James and Chelsea. Congratulations you two, always the biggest inspiration.

[@jonathank7880]

Honestly, I wish this podcast episode was longer. The vibes were immaculate, and time flew so fast!!

[@devino.4117]

The genuinely excited smile on James' face the whole time is everything. Congrats on the episode you two!

[@scott744]

I have nothing but insanely immense respect for Matthew for how hard he works and how wonderful he is to his fans! I remember him being at a horror con here in the UK a few years back and he absolutely was still there late (during the after party) signing autographs for people and the only other person I have seen like that is Shawnee Smith a couple of weeks ago doing the same both nights.... That few moments of meeting a celebrity they admire is a huge core memory for some and Matthews attitude to it is fantastic and I love him for that as well as the energy he brings to his roles!!!! Amazing episode guys 💜

[@CalfoxThefoxOfficial]

HE WAS AT A HORROR CON HERE IN THE UK?!? WHEN?!

[@scott744]

@@CalfoxThefoxOfficial It was at For the love of horror in manchester back in 2021, they had Matthew Lillard, Skeet Ulrich and David Arquette from scream, its a great convention if you havent been i would highly recommend it! We asked if they could try and invite James and Chelsea one year too!

[@CalfoxThefoxOfficial]

@@scott744 oh pre fnaf movie

[@freakshow2603]

They are right, I drove out to meet James and Chelsea back in March at Horror Hound in Cincinnati. That was my one time to meet them. It was a big moment for me. I would have loved to met Matthew Lillard when he came to Lexington Kentucky earlier this month, but I didn’t have enough money. These are literally 3 of my favorite people. I could just listen to them forever. I really hope they bring Matthew Lillard back.

[@Zero_KontrollYt]

Cant wait till my s/o gets home so I can watch this with her but stopping by now to say congrats yall, you guys made it!!!

[@thepoeticminecart]

Matthew is the chillest sweetest guy on thw planet I will forever love him so so much

[@ohsarabeth]

I love that he’s speaking honestly about working in this industry. He’s right. Such a great interview 🎉

[@MsGleelover22]

I got to meet him at a con a few years ago and he was so cool. I’m happy to hear that he cares and enjoys doing those things. He also gives great hugs I think that’s important to note.

[@noelromerez2034]

Oh my god first Legends of Avantris and now Dead Meat, Matthew Lillard is a man of the people

[@JonesyJustJonesy]

this is fucking huge! Glad you guys finally got the absolute legend himself to be on the podcast. James and Chelsea have come so far in 7 years and its been a blast to watch

[@bobbykeniston7240]

Great episode! Matthew seems like a really great guy (dogs are a great judge of character after all). Appreciated how candid he was about the business and everything. For James and Chelsea talking about wanting to meet Stephen King--- as a Maine boy who lives in a small town and went to Bangor often (where Mr. King lived in an iconic house), there came a time when I did run into him. Actually, for a stretch, every time I went into the Borders in Bangor, by some weird coincidence, he would be in there, though most of the time it was clear that he didn't really want interaction, wearing an orange winter hat, trying to looks smaller (hard at his height). But one day, I went into Borders, and I was there to buy a DVD of "Bubba Ho-Tep" which had recently been released, went up to the second floor where the music and DVDs were, and Stephen King was there, chilling out, talking to one of the employees about music. I didn't think I'd have the guts to speak to him, but I grabbed "Bubba Ho-Tep", had a book, "Hocus Pocus" by Vonnegut, and went over to the employee under the guise to see if I could pay for my items there. Stephen King actually spoke to me first, when he saw the DVD I had, and said, "Oh, Bubba Ho-Tep with groovy Bruce!" and I was just kind of nodding, and he asked if I had read the story it was based on by Joe Lansdale, and I don't know why, but something possessed me to say, "I haven't, but I heard he's great. I should read his work--- so hard to find good horror writers these days". And he gave me a "why I oughta" look and then laughed. When I went to go back downstairs, he said, "Good luck finding a decent horror writer!" It was cool. I'm sure when James and Chelsea meet him, it will be in a much cooler venue, one where he will actually remember having met them and know who they are!

[@MitchellFace]

“Unfortunately I’m on Twitter.” Chelsea’s so real for that one!😂

[@genageeraert8039]

Matthew is such a humble genuine person. Great interview.

[@NicholasPhillips713]

This is one of my favorite videos you guys have ever done. I’m so happy for all the success that you’ve had and it’s so great to see Matthew little succeeding again.

[@GRAHFXENO]

I got a chance to meet Stephen King about 10 years ago when he came to my small town in New Brunswick, Canada (the province just NE of Maine), when he did some location scouting/vacationing for one of his books, just after giving a speach at UNB (University of New Brunswick). He wanted me to open up an art gallery/library that I had the keys to (It's a historical building), so I hung out in the building with him for about 20 min. He was so friendly and charming.

[@alisonstaniforth4506]

Thank you for this brilliant pod cast, I could've listed to you all talking for hours, what a lovely person, he looked so at home with you guys. Just brilliant as always. 😊

[@elizabethlynch6544]

Loved Matthew Lillard in Scooby-Doo movies, Th1rt3en Ghosts, Senseless, Hackers.

[@nvm9040]

Don’t forgot the Curve and She’s All That

[@JayDineroBandz]

Senseless fasho

[@nvm9040]

@ same year as Dead’s Man Curve I believe

[@kailerobinson4624]

What a truly neat interview/ conversation to witness. Y’all are the bee’s knees. Thank you!!!💗

[@Spookhanos]

This was such a great interview guys. Whenever you have a guest on you make the environment so comfortable the conversations flow so easily you guys truly have a gift.

[@tyleradams3490]

SLC PUNK and Without a Paddle are why I love Lillard! He's always awesome but those are MY JAMS and of course Scream.

[@shanecook-laliberte8154]

This should be 8 hours long and several of them about serial mom

[@gabriellaberman]

omg somehow I forgot he was in that! That movie is soooo good

[@Pestica88]

I absolutely adore Matthew Lillard. He is so genuine and his enthusiasm is so infectious. I am so happy to have seen my favorite peoples in this interview. Thank you so much for making my day!

[@nelson3459]

“Scooby dooby doo where are you? We got some work do now!”🗣️

[@gagecowart7157]

Amazing episode. I was skeptical when James said they had a guest coming that we wouldn't want to miss (truthfully I thought it was the prior interview with the writer of Smile 2, which wasn't a bad interview but wasn't as legendary as I expected). This though? Absolutely amazing.