Matthew McConaughey: Redefining Success as a Man | The Man Enough Podcast

[@luguy8347]

Matthew was a great guest. He’s very secure in his vulnerability. His open and honest. This is the betterment of humanity.

[@ninaaaaaaaa1229]

The best part of this podcast was the last 15 minutes when it was just the three of you and hinted at what we were all thinking and feeling during the interview.

[@the_mulattos]

It's your voice speaking through them.

[@qeverette5403]

exactly this.

[@suzettephinn7829]

I love it when Jamey chimes in, he brings it 100%. No fluff Jamey.

[@elijahdaniel9272]

I’ve seen quite a handful of your comments on my posts and I just wanna appreciate those people whose wishes me good and encourages me and my team, I wouldn’t be the man I am today without people like you, God bless you. I hope to bring you so much happiness and joy 🌹❤️

[@MulattoMovement]

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[@dyutitaajith4324]

Jamey Heath at 19:23 and Liz Plank right before that, Thank you for being brave enough to disagree!!! LOVE THE POV.

[@elijahdaniel9272]

I’ve seen quite a handful of your comments on my posts and I just wanna appreciate those people whose wishes me good and encourages me and my team, I wouldn’t be the man I am today without people like you, God bless you. I hope to bring you so much happiness and joy 🌹❤️

[@juliaschmelzer1966]

I'm watching these all out of order, so a very late comment here. I appreciate Jamie's permission at the end for Liz & Justin to challenge guests in these conversations- like you did with Emmanual Acho. Also to Justin's comment that we all need a Jamie: Liz and Justin, I've watched you also provide therapeutic insight to others. I appreciate the work each of you is doing in the world. Thank you.

[@WeAreManEnough]

Thank you! The order doesn't matter too much. Sometimes they reference past episodes and you definitely see the hosts grow and learn over time, but each stand alone with its own stories and insights. Glad you appreciated how they push each other. That's what this is all about!

[@alexmariethegreat]

Not that Matthew’s interview wasn’t great, it was. But the conversation after today was ON POINT. 🎯 Beautiful. Thank you. 🤙🏼❤️

[@elijahdaniel9272]

I’ve seen quite a handful of your comments on my posts and I just wanna appreciate those people whose wishes me good and encourages me and my team, I wouldn’t be the man I am today without people like you, God bless you. I hope to bring you so much happiness and joy 🌹❤️

[@WeAreManEnough]

Thank you! We agree. The hosts really dug in on this one.

[@alexmariethegreat]

@@WeAreManEnough Indeed they did. Loveddd it! ❤️ Side note: Without going into too much detail, I’d love to see them dive into intentions on the topic of telling strangers, most often women, to smile in public. For many of us these occasions aren’t just annoying, they often feel unsafe. The women in my life and I struggle to have productive conversations about it, even with the men closest to us, without being gaslit. Feels like a masculinity issue. lol These conversations have been so healing for me, and I’m sure for many other people. I really hope they continue for a long time to come. 🤙🏼

[@WeAreManEnough]

@@alexmariethegreat Great feedback, thank you.

[@the_mulattos]

@@elijahdaniel9272 most of them are other man hating feminist confederates pretending to be the separate from the channel.

[@nehapai4465]

I liked the conversation about intention and it's understandable to be angry but, people with good intention are the the people willing to change and those are all the people listening to this podcast.

[@WeAreManEnough]

Well said.

[@ItsJennNotJenny]

Please don't stop having these conversations with wonderful people like Matthew. The world needs you guys and these valuable exchanges. I'm a huge fan and always will support this show. 💜

[@valentinascaglione6977]

THIS IS CHURCH for me … every episode I feel like I went to church. Truth. Humility. Discomfort. Leaning in. Listening. … every episode ! Thank you. Also major sidenote - the ending always makes my heart smile cry. Such a perfect mix of beats.

[@WeAreManEnough]

That's wonderful to hear! Thank you.

[@cindyperron3024]

What a great display of loving real-talk between the 3 of you. I admire how Jamey invited Liz and Justin to challenge. Real friends do that, and then make it safe.

[@WeAreManEnough]

Thank you.

[@thatokutu6679]

Liz and Jamey are on it!!!!!! Always appreciate their insights. I learned something new in regards to the intensions conversation, super grateful for their contributions

[@dmajoriu21]

What Jamey said at the end about wanting to be liked is what I thinking throughout the entire interview. It would be very hard for Justin to pushback on a guy who he idolizes out of fear that the person is going to be angry. There were so many moments where I wanted Justin or Liz to pushback, because it was so clear Matthew was speaking from a place of privilege. When it comes to the message about intent I do strongly believe it depends on the relationship. If a person is in the wrong, the other person shouldn’t be pressured to explain themselves. However, if they want the other person to learn and grow, and has a good relationship with the person, it is up to the victim to reach out and help with that teachable moment. But It’s not a requirement.

[@MichelleEstrada]

I agree with what you said about it being hard to pushback with someone you idolize and I could also tell were there was those moments where it was hard for Justin to even see the privilege or over confidence which is really just a mask or armor as they all so easily pointed out on Manuel another guest on the podcast. But I do think especially after the begining it’s clear that Justin and Liz were kinda bouncing off each other to get to the more real questions and there def was pushback from Justin pretyy early on in the interview ultimately I feel like they just decided to keep asking more questions with the hope of one of those questions striking a more personal response and deeper response from Mathew but they kinda all knew jr wasn’t happening.. also I feel Jamey did GREAT with the pushback especially with showcasing a WONDERFUL example with the water thing to explain how much more meaningful impact is than intention. I still agree with Jamey 100% on that..... even with intentions in mind, maybe to prevent issues we could re-examine or be more mindful of our intentions before we say something where we have to defend ourselves with “that wasn’t my intention” but anyway. That was a lot hahah

[@sofiainostroza9481]

You should invite Terry crews! He has talked about how he was sexually harrassed and not taken seriously because he looks like a "real strong men" . I really like this episode because it shows that even though we can be on the same side we don't always agree to where we draw the line, and it makes u have to prove a point showing the other person your perspective as well of being able to listen each other. Also i feel u justin, its hard sometimes express that you disagree with the other person because you dont want them to feel uncomfortable or upset, and we tend to be mediators or bend a little our beliefs in order to get the acceptance from the other person, but we have to remember that everywhere (especially in a place where is respect and an effort to grow), our opinions are valid and enough to make the other doubt in what they belive in which only helps to reinforced them or in some cases change it. Also there is nothing wrong to agree to disagree! Love from chile, i have listened all episodes and im excited for the next one!

[@WeAreManEnough]

Thank you for the great feedback and support. We did have Terry Crews on the Fatherhood episode of our previous Man Enough talk show. Good idea to invite him onto the podcast too. kzbin.info/www/bejne/eJ6rnpR-grabncU

[@Xthewp]

This is honestly the best podcast I’ve ever listened to. Everything that is shared and said makes me reflect on myself and my life and how these things have affected me or how I’ve maybe unintentionally affected other people. I love how real and raw these conversations get and how willing you guys are to share things that are so deep and so personal. You bring things to light in such a beautiful and understanding way and I can’t get enough of hearing you all talk. I hope that people can really learn to feel more comfortable talking about these uncomfortable topics with the people in their lives and that more of the media starts to become more honest, vulnerable and relatable so people feel they can have a voice and that there are safe spaces to talk about tough things. I also can’t wait to see who else you bring on your show! The guests so far have been absolutely incredible! Thank you for this gem seriously. It is so needed in our society today. 💕

[@WeAreManEnough]

Thank you so much for the incredibly kind words. We're so glad it's resonating with you. Please spread the word and share this with everyone that needs to hear it, especially the ones that might be a bit resistant. That's how we'll truly learn together and change the world.

[@karlasmit2783]

I loved listening to this honest conversation between all four of you. Allowing yourself to be educated is crucial. Thank you for this!

[@teremiller5489]

Something missing from the intention and impact conversation is “awareness”. Having an open heart and mind and sense of understanding of another so that one is aware of how one’s words will likely be heard and felt. Compassion and patience are also so helpful to this conversation. We are all so quick to jump at each other these days - when we all just want to be happy! Cheers to all of you and thanks for the thought ‘full” conversations.

[@truth_seeker5]

Mathew did magic mike re-enforcing the beauty standards set by the society and I feel like he does not even regret it.

[@jjchallenge1787]

Best podcast I’ve ever listened to I feel so lucky I get to learn this at the tender age of 19 and will hopefully be able to help other people improve on the way they speak and act or react to women and other men

[@inesmachado2575]

Jamey is such a treasure... Love what each person brings to the table, keep going!!!!

[@sheikhennotstirred]

I just started watching these yesterday and I find I have to watch them in small parts just to process all the great information you’re giving. Thank you for such great discussions.

[@WeAreManEnough]

Thanks, Omar. That's wonderful to hear. There is indeed a lot in each of these and they are all so different. Keep letting us know what you think as you make your way through.

[@tashamatveeva490]

I've been enjoying every episode and this one with Matthew wasn't an exception 🙌. Thank you so much for this amazing conversation ❤️

[@elijahdaniel9272]

I’ve seen quite a handful of your comments on my posts and I just wanna appreciate those people whose wishes me good and encourages me and my team, I wouldn’t be the man I am today without people like you, God bless you. I hope to bring you so much happiness and joy 🌹❤️

[@freddy7534]

I love love love this podcast ugh! In my humble opinion I believe conversations are the best forms of education and when I hurt someone I would love that person to seat down and have an open heart conversation with me and yes I realize that it’s not their job to educate me but in order for me to change and to grow from the situation; and for them to contribute to that change and to the betterment of the world they also should be willing to educate me! I might be the perpetrator because of my ignorance but we all have to work together to make a difference.

[@WeAreManEnough]

Thank you so much, Freddy. We appreciate you doing the work and being so open about it. You are enough!

[@AntoinetteMPetty]

I always loved Matthew McConaughey in movies. In A Time To Kill, that part where he said Now Imagine If She Was White got to me as well, powerful. Also when Matthew talked about intent, also very powerful as well. I honestly can't say enough great things about The Man Enough Podcast. Y'all bring it 💯 % and more. Thank you all for your ongoing great work 👍🏾 👏🏿 🙌🏾 💙💜✌🏾🙋🏾‍♀️

[@WeAreManEnough]

Thank you. Glad this one resonated with you too.

[@EJsVids]

So curious as to why someone would dislike this awesome segment? Haters gotta hate I guess huh - Great points today, and finally able to catch up !

[@gwenadams4509]

Awesome Conversation. JAMEY HEATH..YOU ARE MY HERO TODAY.....IM THAT PERSON WHO ALSO WANTS TO ALWAYS BE LIKED..SO I HAVE SOME WORK TO DO ON NOT ALWAYS AGREEING WITH PEOPLE JUST TO BE LIKE. ❤❤🙏🙏

[@freddy7534]

That resonated with me too, definitely have some work to do from my end!

[@elijahdaniel9272]

I’ve seen quite a handful of your comments on my posts and I just wanna appreciate those people whose wishes me good and encourages me and my team, I wouldn’t be the man I am today without people like you, God bless you. I hope to bring you so much happiness and joy 🌹❤️

[@matthughes2611]

This show needs Peter Crone to come on the podcast to work through some of these topics. Playing the victim in your life is not the answer. More love and compassion. Most importantly love and compassion for yourself. Interview with MM was great. A lot of deep and unique questions. Thanks to Justin for being vulnerable and being a punching bag for the white male.

[@debrawitherspoon2201]

Matthew McConaughey well spoken

[@masonrodriguez3378]

Literally new to this podcast, second episode in and this episode resonated with me beyond levels that I think anyone outside of myself would be able to understand. I was literally just having a conversation with my 4 year old son about intention. Also last week with my wife. Such an in important conversation to have to start the dialogue. I wish I was on here there was so much more I wanted to dive deeper into and get into real examples of what these conversations look like.

[@WeAreManEnough]

Thanks for joining us, Mason! We're so happy to have you here and glad it resonated with you. Many more conversations since -- anything specific you're looking for? For example, there are some great ones about fatherhood - Lil Rel Howery, Daddy Issues, Eldra Jackson, Jason Wilson, Ted Bunch...the list goes on.

[@carolinevasconcelos9770]

I need an episode with just Liz Plank and Jamey Heath, i love the way they think ❤️

[@elijahdaniel9272]

I’ve seen quite a handful of your comments on my posts and I just wanna appreciate those people whose wishes me good and encourages me and my team, I wouldn’t be the man I am today without people like you, God bless you. I hope to bring you so much happiness and joy 🌹❤️

[@AoibheannStateira]

I think intention is good for context and is useful with respect to clear communication but impact is more important. Period. My judgement of the person is based on how you respond to that and the action you take to adjust behavior.

[@jordanthornton4440]

I rly appreciate Liz and Jamey speaking up, sharing their perspectives, truly! But I gotta be honest, I can't really agree with them on the conversation about intentions & when ppl falter from the "good person" image when they hurt the ppl close to them. I don't necessarily believe it'll ultimately push us in the healthiest direction moving forward. With sexism, racism, or any type of conflict between ppl. (Speaking as a black woman myself) So, I'm with Matthew and his pov. And Justin's! ☺But this is a GREAT podcast. These type of conversations are so needed. And these perspectives are *so* needed too. Awesome job!

[@WeAreManEnough]

Jordan, thank you so much for your feedback. It's ok that you don't agree. It's great that you agree! We're here to call people in, not out, and that means we welcome views that might conflict. Let's strive to hear each other, be respectful and keep growing in a direction that oppresses and hurts each other less and the world will be in a better place than yesterday. Thank you for being here.

[@jordanthornton4440]

@@WeAreManEnough love it! I think when we open up our minds to different people and to their different perspectives, we can understand both each other & where each other are coming from more, and that's truly how we'll change the world. As long as we're doing it in a healthy welcoming way. And we are intending the outcome to head to a healthier place for the future. Just by engaging in conversations like this podcast did. Keep doing the great work you guys!

[@WeAreManEnough]

@@jordanthornton4440 We completely agree. So much more ahead.

[@beautybecomesher]

I’m so glad they debriefed. I think the virtual aspect lost some of the connection, which I totally understand having done college and therapy on zoom- you lose so much that way. Not to excuse Matthew’s answers at all, but I feel like the calling in was lacking because he wasn’t physically in the room. But I’m so pleased that Jamey and Liz talked about all this because in the interview, I could see Justin fangirling, while Liz and Jamey had the look of “he’s great, but he’s still a white guy with a lot of privilege.”

[@XLorriannX]

Jamey Heath coming through with the facts!

[@emelyjperezramirez254]

Liz and Jamie are awesome brave smart and deep people.

[@nupurbosmiya9983]

There should be a compilation video of just the Funeral Rapid-Fire question! :)

[@WeAreManEnough]

Great idea! Maybe we'll do that after 10 episodes or something.

[@emelyjperezramirez254]

Justin, thanks for listening your folks u are amazing.

[@Sara-qw7lc]

I liked this interview! I learn more about men watching your podcast cause I don’t have many male friends but I have male family members who may also deal with the same issues these men in the video spoke about! 💖 I always thought being a girl was hard but I guess I never gave “male body image or pressure to conform to masculine ideals” much thought till I watched Justin! I guess as humans we just need to be more damn empathetic! 💖

[@WeAreManEnough]

Thanks, Sara. Glad we could help expand your understanding. All that said, we agree that it is hard "being a girl". In general, it's still a whole lot easier to be a man in this world.

[@MichelleEstrada]

I probs shouldn’t be binging these episodes lol but they’re so good and interesting to watch 🤓

[@WeAreManEnough]

Please do!

[@isabella.carrillo]

already know this episode is gonna be so good

[@elijahdaniel9272]

I’ve seen quite a handful of your comments on my posts and I just wanna appreciate those people whose wishes me good and encourages me and my team, I wouldn’t be the man I am today without people like you, God bless you. I hope to bring you so much happiness and joy 🌹❤️

[@isabella.carrillo]

@@elijahdaniel9272 this made my day omg. THANK YOU for being someone i’ve always admired and looked up to. i’m from texas and i plan to try to take the path you did :) ut is my dream school and acting is something i’ve always wanted to do but feared i wouldn’t make it. ur words have always encouraged me so i’m gonna try!!

[@elijahdaniel9272]

@@isabella.carrillo Thank you so much for your love and support, It gives me great joy to learn that our hard working is paying off and there’re lots of people out there that actually love what I do. God bless you

[@deborahcortez7258]

Love this! Everyone on this show has amazing juju! Definite #Greenlight moment!

[@Santiagoang347]

What a great podcast! Resonates so much with my life today. When I heard Matthew say "looking over my shoulder" I understood it to mean in the context of leaving a trail of hurt people. Though the points that were made in your discussion of not being able to do so as a woman or a black man are valid, I saw it a little differently. Speaking of Intention, the "I didn't mean it, so you have to forgive me" clause...man this is a toxic person's mantra, abusers live on this. Intention and Impact = Accountability and Consequences. Like you mentioned, there has to be an element of action in order to redeem yourself. Taking ownership, looking in the mirror, sitting in the discomfort of the consequences, LISTENING and taking real action to make the change. We have so much access today, it pains my soul to see that not enough take advantage of this...there's so much more! I love, love, love this!!!!

[@WeAreManEnough]

Thank you so much for your feedback and thoughts. We discuss intention vs impact a lot through the series and it is addressed a lot more head on in later episodes. We are all learning and growing through this process, including the hosts. Glad you're here with us.

[@Santiagoang347]

@@WeAreManEnough yes we are in this together. I just found y’all today. I’m binge watching and sharing with my kids, especially my son. I’m trying to undo the damage, you have no idea how truly God sent this has been!

[@WeAreManEnough]

@@Santiagoang347 Wonderful to hear! Thank you.

[@chrisdovale1255]

This is awesome guys! Keep it up! Y’all should look into interviewing Trevor Noah!

[@WeAreManEnough]

Thank you! Working on it. :)

[@thekaitlyncasson]

I hate when someone apologizes and in between says something like "I'm such a dick", "I'm such an idiot" etc because I feel it devalues the apology and makes it about them. Men do this thing where it's like a fall from grace when they hurt someone rather than accepting that during life they will hurt people and it's how they apologize that matters. If the other person didn't say you were being an idiot but purely explained you hurt them there should only be two words that follow, "I'm sorry". Nothing else needs to be said. You don't need to beat yourself up out loud because that makes the other person feel guilty sometimes and the apology no longer holds the same weight.

[@WeAreManEnough]

Thank you for sharing your perspective. Definitely see how doing that could cause feelings of guilt and compel the one being apologized to to feel like they need to take care of the apologizer.

[@orienocon612]

Another great person to have on this podcast would be Jason Mamoa or Aubrey Marcus

[@Sara-qw7lc]

Jason Mamoa would be so epic omg!

[@emelyjperezramirez254]

Una conversación incómoda sumamente necesaria. MM needed to think about his priviledge.

[@qnd_20]

:by faaaaar, this was thee best episode ❤️

[@marnrd8441]

Favorite podcast ever 😢💞💞

[@kokoaugust3402]

love this man

[@AbbassehRowling]

I love you guys!!! (I grew up in a Bahai family in New Zealand)

[@myrnainfante9526]

I’ m ready 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@jessasmith2349]

Do you guys do, like a vulnerability exercise before starting the podcast? Because I just feel like it would be hard for me to be immediately so open.

[@WeAreManEnough]

We usually don't, but it's a great idea.

[@Kanyarat.r]

Love your podcast. Please invite Ashton Kutcher!!

[@bahaelkassaby4316]

"Some seekers after truth have held intention to be superior to action, for a goodly intention is absolute light and is entirely sanctified from the least trace of malice… But the pure intention is sanctified above such faults." - Abdu’l-Baha

[@bahaelkassaby4316]

and another gem from Abdu'l Baha: "If some one commits an error and wrong toward you, you must instantly forgive him." ‘Abdu’l-Bahá

[@jose56789-b]

the last 15 minutes about racism made me think of the doctor that pops up on everyone's for your page on tiktok, the one that says ain't that suspiciousss

[@MichelleEstrada]

Honestly a solo comment for Jameys real ness - all the way to the last seconds - is needed so like...YASS JAMEY YASSS

[@colagangcloutchasing2734]

Why do I feel like his demeanor changed after they disagreed with him. His body language looked disengaged after that point.

[@bushrarasheed1598]

Laav these podcasts

[@umbaradesign]

How can make i that right with you? Is something one who hurts knowing or unknowingly could ask the person that feels hurt. And show up to deliver ‘whatever’ is expected of them. One needs to be man enough for that

[@Mythicalityyy]

Damnnn yessssss!!!!!

[@michellet.f81]

it would be interesting to ask all of these successful men that you have in the show if they thought that if they were a woman: would they think they would have gotten to be as successful as they are now? And why

[@WeAreManEnough]

Agreed - that would be interesting. We'll think about how to best incorporate that into future conversations.

[@jimpadilla6795]

Intention is huge. If we all make the intention to give people the most generous interpretation of people's actions. I don't get offended much because I'm not giving everyone else the control of my emotions. I've been discriminated against and insulted, but that's a you problem not a me problem. I can't hold you accountable for the impact to me. Especially today, we can't allow the people who handle the impact the least effectively to set the standards.

[@WeAreManEnough]

Thanks for sharing some really important thoughts! What you're speaking to really highlights the importance of personal accountability. And with that, the added understanding for what the impact of those actions are, as well as what they're informed by. We're grateful in this community to be able to share these considerations, and these dialogues are so important for how we inform the actions we make as an individual whether implicit or explicit. We appreciate you being here!

[@STOK5OH]

Y'all got GOT. Also, dude's wife 100% got smashed. 🤣

[@JemmaLiberte]

Beyond hot buttons like race & all the things that we talked about … and maybe a little bit too; when good intentions are rooted in the lack of knowledge or experience..: like true ignorance… I think that is what Matthew was trying to say. That should matter in the consequences, the “calling them in” to quote one of your Guests (I can’t think of her name 🤦🏽‍♀️) . There is deliberate & harmful behaviors that are intentionally meant to be that way. Then on the flip you literally could be trying to do the opposite of that , maybe with a limited “tool bag”of experience & knowledge ..end result could also be same/similar as the intended cruelness of the other . It’s important to be able to separate these prototypes because one is a full on lost cause ; the other is someone who is very likely open to change . ❤

[@WeAreManEnough]

Thanks for sharing your perspective.

[@apapercorner3124]

Can we leave room for people to accidentally spill water? Obviously You are allowed to be upset that you are wet but is it fair to expect people to never spill water? I would love to hear your thoughts on leaving room and grace for everyone.

[@apapercorner3124]

I want to add that I hope my question didn’t come across to single liz’s comment out. It was just the last example and it was a great example. Its relatable. When you’re out and water is spilled all over your lap, you’re really bummed and there is a level of grace you must have for the other person. I agree, The intention doesn’t matter at that point. The perpetrator is at fault. We have learned to have a level of acceptance for certain situations but not all. Sincerely curious to see how you can shape this thought.

[@MichelleEstrada]

I gotta say sometimes it seems like Jamey* has to ask the question to Liz or to Justin before he gets asked the question that he should be getting asked from y’all sitting at the table with him.. it’s like he knows that you guys have the talking stick and so he sits patiently waiting but eventually just encourages you down to the path you gotta get to and then knows eventually you guys will pass the talking stick to him? Idk I’ve only noticed it a few times not saying it always happens but it’s enough for me to be a little like uncomfortable with it.. 🤷🏻‍♀️ I guess I’m that person at the comedy show who’s offended for someone else who might not even be offended LOL

[@WeAreManEnough]

MIchelle - we hear you loud and clear. This was the first episode we recorded ever. It has evolved a lot since then and Jamey certainly has a much more integrated role in the conversation now.

[@lollydolly9001]

that conversation felt so odd in the end. why wait until matthew isn’t there anymore to have it?

[@diamondgarcia9409]

They do that every episode

[@WeAreManEnough]

Hi Lolly, thank you for your feedback. The hosts always debrief after the guest leaves with a conversation about what they learned, their own experiences, some fact-checking and decompression. Often, the guests are only available for a limited time and there's more to explore, which a lot of our audience enjoys.

[@debrawitherspoon2201]

Way to go Matthew McConaughey coming out about being a kid becoming a young man around your school friends those are the tough years but look where you are now a good family man please run for governor yeah

[@debrawitherspoon2201]

Woohoo I love all the movies your in and you are so good as a person who speaks well I public run for governor please for the people we need some young ideas help Texas and move your way up I tell children that in the world 🌎 today you can be anything are anybody if you set your mind to go for it and don't quit

[@tanyalumbi8619]

🫶

[@sharonmonathcohen3642]

Matthew is a pompous ah whatever

[@michaellayer7641]

Maconahey is the Picasso of BS artistry and Justin laps it up the whole time. It's really unfair to the other guests who were vulnerable

[@jordanthornton4440]

.....🤔..... k