Matthew Tkachuk Traded To Florida In Blockbuster Deal | Instant Analysis w/

Steve Dangle breaks down the blockbuster deal between the Calgary Flames and Florida Panthers that sent Matthew Tkachuk to South Beach in exchange for Jonathan Huberdeau, MacKenzie Weeger & more. Who do you think won the trade? Let us know in the comments below!
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[@puregolf7429]

What a win for the panthers

[@DemonHunterMOG]

When you come back to a video knowing who won the trade IMMEDIATELY.

[@itstoothless8249]

This whole trade has and still does feel like a suspenseful thriller movie for Flames fans. Never knowing whether it’ll end in a tragedy, or with sense of hope for the future

[@sacredcow61]

Reporting from the future, was a tragedy.

[@vinnybagodoughnuts2817]

Wah wah waaaaaaa!

[@rodriguezchen]

It’s a tragedy, Panthers going to Stanley Cup Finals

[@zachlesk5685]

Hindsight is 20/20 but Calgary completely goofed up this trade 😂

[@shordey13]

Kadri saying no to Calgary was him just hoping to remain a Leaf, he said it himself. Plus it's a completely different Calgary Flames team now then what it was. I'd love for Kadri to sign there for the Narrative alone lol. The best comeback off-season of all time?

[@Zodiak34]

love it, 2 american stars leaving calgary ? hubby and kadri come home as well in response ^^

[@lunarbunny3021]

This is what I keep saying to people, Kadri grew up in Ontario … Of course you’d want to stay on the Leafs as long as possible if they were near your childhood home and your family. But now that the Avs may not be able to afford him… He might just be willing to come back to Canada regardless of the team.

[@genericusername9551]

Kadri ain’t going to Calgary, it’s apparent that guys don’t want to play there as of late

[@JSauer21]

They do have the cap space and he would be a perfect fit. Calgary would suddenly be really scary with Huberdeau, Weegar, and Kadri. Would hate to see it as an Avs fan tho

[@OilersHD97]

With what money?

[@Moises81]

How this trade turned out ? Panthers 2 games away from the Stanley cup final and Tkachuk is playing at his best right now !! Thank you Calgary for the nice gift you gave us , we stole a superstar for an aging soft winger

[@JLR_Steve]

This trade could make for an interesting Trade Tree a couple of seasons down the road.

[@mute2928]

Man can you talk about Florida for more than 9 seconds. I get it, Calgary won the trade. Like everyone is sleeping on the fact Tkachuck is going to team full of pass 1st players and they just had a you know, decent, regular season. Huberdeau will be missed, but Florida finally gets some bite to their game. Last fun fact. Huberdeau only had 11 more points than Tkachuck last year and Tkachuck had more goals

[@vinnybagodoughnuts2817]

This video has aged well.lmao

[@DiamondKingVideos]

Especially now.

[@ASDF0716]

@@DiamondKingVideos - especially especially now.

[@anonymous15432]

If they can turn huberdeau and weeger into 1st rounders at the deadline, I’d still call that a good outcome for Calgary. They’re being forced into a rebuild by player exodus and GM managed to squeeze as much potential future value as possible out of it.

[@jeremybrazier786]

I thought the same thing. Huberdeau should bring in a good pkg at the deadline.

[@dwaynethewokjohnson7773]

Huberdau could bring in a good roster player, a top tier prospect and a 1st with 50% retained salary

[@PearloWisdom]

You are assuming the Flames will not be in a playoff spot at the deadline I think

[@troydejong6206]

The only danger is if Calgary is in a playoff spot come deadline and have not resigned either UFA, after loosing JH for nothing THEY CAN NOT do this again (twice) and would be forced to trade both players. This said with to many d-men I see a big d trade happening before the start of the season with a top 6 forward and draft pick coming to Calgary...

[@PearloWisdom]

@@troydejong6206 I think this team as is makes the playoffs and is our first or second round . So if they aren’t signed by the start of the season I would trade them .

[@davidfitzpatrick6535]

Can't wait to see Huberdeau get some credit because I feel like him being in Florida where not many hockey fans if not Canadian hurt him and allowed him to be one of the more underrated players. But my surprise is Tkachuk to Flordia????? I thought he would go for St Louis for sure since he's from there (grew up there born in Arizona)

[@joecharette2587]

Cheap taxes , nice wether and beaches what more could you want

[@curiousoli]

There's a lot of French canadian living in Florida half the year

[@rickyd8097]

@@joecharette2587 and the fact they won the presidents cup. It’s not like he’s going to some dumpster fire.

[@eyedjoe]

Realize he’s losing 2 million in every taxes this year now…. He’s gone in January

[@eyedjoe]

He deserves to not be here he is American?

[@franklezar1]

The panthers had the balls to do what the leafs haven’t.

[@xCestLaVie1]

Exactly why I love defending this trade by them. Flames need to deal these two by deadline or they most likely walk. Good asset management by the Panthers, not letting them two walk for nothing.

[@korbynshaggy666]

@@xCestLaVie1 no 1st round pick till 2026 all top prospects dealt lost talent at every position and that's asset management to you HAHAHAHAHA

[@korbynshaggy666]

Thank God the panthers sacrificed their future and talent for a plug

[@loydsmith6822]

True! True! You have to give respect to the Panthers Management!

[@franklezar1]

@@korbynshaggy666 who cares

[@silentbydeadly8661]

Steve Dangle, i love your Instant Analysis because it's easy to understand and is pretty simplified.And i'd like to watch some more of your Instant Analysis, in the very near future.

[@SteveSacrob]

I wonder if Sutter's arrival had anything to with the subsequent exodus of star players.

[@silentbydeadly8661]

@@SteveSacrob I can't answer this. Maybe you should ask Sutter and the star players.

[@ChrisJones-pi5mh]

As a Sens fan I'm glad to see Matthew in the east. Should make for some interesting Sens/Panthers games!

[@tkdmike9345]

This comment aged like a fine wine

[@tubingforever]

This is the most amazing offseason of all time! I’m more entertained than during the regular season!!!

[@christhornycroft3686]

Unless the Panthers actually win the cup with Tkachuk, as of right now, this is a huge win for Calgary. They trade a player who basically had a gun to their head and refused to sign long term for a guy who had roughly the same point production last year, a top 4 D man, a prospect AND a 1st. That's ridiculous, given that Calgary should have been dealing from a position of weakness. Huberdeau isn't quite as gritty or as young as Tkachuk, but he's always much cheaper for next season. Even if Calgary ends up long term with just a top 4 D man and the 1st round pick turns into something really good, Calgary still does really, really well considering they had no other choice but to trade him. Granted, if Florida actually wins the Stanley Cup in the next few years, that changes, but in order to win this trade, that's basically what has to happen. Calgary as of today made off like bandits.

[@noambienenstock2777]

think about the fact that weegar and huberdeau prob wont be in Calgary in 2023-24

[@BKHockeyTalk]

and the fact that the panthers were going to be in the exact same boat with Huby and Weegar. (not sure they even wanted to resign weegs) Not to mention we just freed up like 12-15 mil in future salary cap not having to resign these guys.

[@SuperMairou]

This has been the most fantastic and shocking offseason. And I love every second of it. Cant wait until its October!

[@kh4l3dhi]

Having digested it the past couple of days, I'm feeling really good about this trade. Go Panthers!

[@kevindouglas7025]

I love Steve trying to diversify his content to the nhl as whole rather than just focussing on the leafs and only leafs. I can see him being hockey’s version of what Stephan A Smith is to basketball; being incredibly bias to one team but still doing full coverage of the league as a whole. It would grow his brand and bring a lot to the sports coverage and I think he should capitalize on this.

[@4ktrelaxkk465]

W

[@chickenfkeryay]

What team is Steven a Smith in love with

[@robclarkson3697]

This was a great trade for the Leafs. They are now better than Florida.

[@NORTHERNFARMGIIRL]

@Steve Dangle, Hope😁 you do more of this! You are so good at Explaining 👌 the whole Process. Always Exciting.

[@kerryeff407]

As an Oilers fan, I was excited to witness a division rival's team falling apart. However, I am shocked that the Flames were able to pull off this deal. Given their circumstances, they hit the jackpot given that they traded a liability for 2 potentially huge signings as well as a 1st round pick! Kudos to them.

[@JoeKirwins]

Also an Oilers fan, props to the Flames for coming away with an A+ on this trade B of A will still be amazing this year!

[@micah7664]

Curse of Alberta man. Just hope it doesn’t catch up to you guys again.

[@ThunderHockeyTFL]

theyre still going to be terrible, whos huberdeau gonna play with lol, they still lost gaudreau for absolutely nothing

[@Gypsyalchemy333]

@@ThunderHockeyTFL maybe they sign kadri now?

[@SloppypapiBeefboi]

Calling tchuck a liability is a little bold. That being said Florida looks to have overpaid imo.

[@elwizschold]

They replaced Johnny with Huberdeau (as they are quite similar in what they provide). Matthew will be harder to replace in what he brings in his game

[@TritonGamezYT]

Kadri!

[@elwizschold]

@@TritonGamezYT He's a center though. Will be interesting to see who they bring up on the wing to replace Matthew

[@TritonGamezYT]

@@elwizschold Toffoli. Maybe Mangiapane if has chemistry off the hat though.

[@MrHamy8]

I'm from Calgary and a lifetime Flames fan, this brought joy back to us. Most of us were down bad and if we can extend both it would be a massive win for us. Sorry for the bias

[@shawnpark7620]

They won't extend...word is out...cheap taxes better weather in most of USA...good luck for any Canadian team trying to b competitive

[@intel1773]

@@shawnpark7620 the players that got traded to calgary are Canadian

[@BKHockeyTalk]

panthers season ticket holder here. Enjoy Huby, and sign him if you can! Don't extend Weegar, you're welcome. You'll see what I mean by Christmas.

[@SteveSacrob]

The only downside for Flames is not either moving them or re signing. If Brad let's them walk he should lose his job.

[@Pix3lPalace]

Massive win you say? 💀💀💀💀💀🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤓🤓🤓🤓

[@musicman76enator]

Sorry for your loss, Steve. My deepest condolences. I know right how is a difficult time for you and Mrs. Dangle. I will be donating to the Sick Kids foundation in honor of SDP. Please let us know if you need anything. Praying for you all. #DangleStrongForeverAndEver.

[@eriklakeland3857]

What happened?

[@SirPotato72]

One thing that probably factors in that I’m not seeing discussed much is that Huberdeau is 29 and Tkachuk is only 24. So Florida signed a rising star that should be in his prime for most if not all of his long term deal. Huberdeau will also command a high price next year but any team who signs him will likely pay in the long term because he’ll be declining on the back end of that deal.

[@jmccoppen]

This is the most important detail! I believe this is actually what Florida's GM Bill Zito saw. he was looking to the future.

[@RyanJ8]

It's not a 5 year difference. Hub was 28 like 30 days ago. Valid points but Hub will be good for at least 6 more years if they can sign him. Tkachuk got carried by his linemates this year. Hub is the carry

[@SirPotato72]

@@RyanJ8 Ok, so about 4.5 years. The point remains. It’s possible Huberdeau stays close to the level he’s at into his mid 30s, but he’d be the exception to the rule. Sure there are players like Ovechkin that have kept up a high level for long time, but for every Ovechkin there are 10 other players (forwards, specifically) that drop off precipitously after age 30. The vast majority of forwards have their best years in their 20s. If they sign Huberdeau to a six year deal they’ll probably be significantly overpaying for 3.

[@ZachBarger]

@@RyanJ8 lol Huberdeau didn't "carry" the team. He's had Barkov by his side for 9 years. Bennett, Reinhart, Ekblad, Verhaeghe, Duclair, and others all had career years as well. One guy doesn't carry you to a President's Trophy.

[@RyanJ8]

@@ZachBarger he doesn't play 5 on 5 with barkov. I said carry the line not the team. Try reading

[@paultaylor1814]

As mentioned, this is a great trade IF Huberdeau and Weeger sign extensions in Calgary. If not, and Treliving can't replace them with comparable players, he's done. I'm not sure why high end players don't want to sign here, but the Flames need to do something to stop this exodus or all they'll become is a development team that trades their players once they're about to hit free agency.

[@deusvult6920]

No one wants to play in tyrannical Canada. People remember the covid years. And people know it was all bs

[@lavallaarons2894]

Maybe the reason has something to do with how Brad T. handled the Sam Bennett situation, also it seemed like Monahan was on the trade block last season until he got injured. I'm just wondering howcome, Brad T. got nothing for Johnny seems like a there's a Rift between management and it's core.

[@painnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn]

It’s a great trade regardless if they resign or not, they get a lot of assets if they want to trade them away. Players don’t want to play for Canadian teams because of taxes plus they wanna go home

[@SHOTTuINdFACE]

Treliving has been done for 2+ years. No GM in the league has gotten the leash he's got. It's funny because I see the as a change in the NHL. Becoming more like NBA. Young superstars packing up bags for better cities. Austin Matthews, probably gone. Brady Thachuk, probably gone. McDavid & Leon, probably gone. Panarin left Columbus. No loyalty in it anymore which makes the draft irrelevant. Adam Fox would not play for small market. Look at one gen older. Crosby, Malkin, Marchand, Bergeron, Ovi, Kueznetov, Stamkos, Kane, Johnny Teows, etc all with the same teams.

[@MX-jo5dq]

Calgary cold as balls who would go outta there way to live in Calgary 🤡

[@xCestLaVie1]

Panthers have their own Bergeron - Marchand in Barkov - Tkachuk. That is a win in itself. The core needed to be shaken up. Trade worked out well for both. Calgary got rentals that go to UFA and will likely both leave. They will most likely need to trade them at deadline for picks.

[@robclarkson3697]

Huberdeau and Barkov didn't play on the same line Florida had 2 number one lines and a third line that dominated the rest of the league. Now they have one top line. They will be a wild card team this year.

[@rjhaney2614]

The best take on this trade is that Calgary would have made it even if Tkachuk hadn’t been forcing his way out.

[@andrewclarke166]

No they wouldn't, not with the term Huberdeau and Weegar have left on their contracts (1 yr)

[@maxbolton5227]

@@andrewclarke166 yeah flames need to win now. The rest of the team is getting old and on expiring deals. Huberdeau is better than tkachuk right now.

[@TreySarver]

lol no

[@quinnperry4471]

Fantastic content! Thank You!

[@masonharper4610]

Calgary could use that cap room at the deadline to eat other teams bad contracts in trade for a ton of picks. They could fast forward a rebuild by multiple years.

[@ZeoKappa]

Taking off my orange coloured glasses and as a general hockey fan I love this trade because IF Huberdeau and Weegar are moved, this could be the start of a massive trade tree.

[@mattfuller7313]

Ha, Love your thinking!!

[@filipohman7277]

Awesome Work Bro, Thanks 👍👍👍😎 Greetings from Helsinki, Finland 🇫🇮🇨🇦🇫🇮🇨🇦🇫🇮🇨🇦

[@jpratt9887]

I don't know why Dangle would say Treliving might be fired? He built an amazing team and 2 of his american superstars wanted to go back to the US. One to be closer to his east coast family and the other to collect as much cash as possible in a tax free state. That was completely out of his hands and the same thing would have happened no matter who was the Flames GM.

[@icebergpreservation5164]

NME

[@jtnauss]

Love Huberdeau coming back to Canada. Miss watching him on the sea dogs, taking them all the way the to the Calder!! Calgary will love him think his ability to drive offense with a ton of defensive upside will fit into sutters plan perfectly. Will we see Calgary grab a huge dman that can score and a big rough yet talented center and try and recreate the kings for sutter

[@davidgordon1700]

We now inThe Eastern Conference finals 2023. Tkachuk has scored first 2 games O.T winner. Flames never made playoffs. Clearly they were the losers in this trade. Mistakes were made

[@glitch164]

I think the Flames may have just salvaged their playoff chances next season.

[@Randomguy-pe1jm]

😂

[@Legacy13579]

I still think they are a worse team than last season but they are playoffs now.

[@ChiefBlue4298]

All just to lose in the first or second round again

[@bojanngles217]

Dear God I hope so

[@adamfehr1994]

@@ChiefBlue4298 half the teams do🤷🏼‍♂️

[@pdcrmr]

Has there been a trade of two 100 point guys for each other since Ron Francis et al went from Hartford to Pittsburgh for John Cullen et al in 1991?

[@BKHockeyTalk]

Panthers fan and season ticket holder.... It's absolutely insane how quick Weegar went from one of the most underrated Dmen to one of the most overrated. He single-handedly lost us a game in BOTH series's this year in the playoffs... He's basically a bit more athletic & physical Keith Yandle.

[@jgabriel6657]

I've never seen a trade where both GMs could lose their jobs as a result of it

[@Bruh-il7ju]

Under rated comment 😂

[@damedcamera]

Great video, always love your vids, but years from now… I can’t wait for this trade tree!!! Hahaha!! ( flames fan )

[@psynque]

I'm sure Sutter is going to love the effort Huberdeau puts on back-checking.

[@rjcolombe]

Question I'm wondering is, would we even be in the same scenario with Tkachuk wanting out if Gaudreau had resigned with Calgary?

[@alanznow8885]

Yes. Tkachuk wanted to be in the states. He got a lockout- and buyout-proof contract at no state tax. This is many extra millions in his jeans..and his dad just built a big ol house in Florida. He refused a high-dollar long term deal 3 years ago to engineer exactly this exit.

[@juancasanova2519]

Florida looks like a freaking genius right now

[@eyesofnight]

Florida will put Duclair on LTIR which will save them 3 mil so that will help

[@SpeedandSplendor]

This trade makes Johnny G look so much worse .. have to give it to Tkachuk, he was honest and forthright with the team and gave the Flames a chance to make this deal.

[@Scendence_]

I'm praying for a Calgary vs Florida Stanley Cup Finals next year. Just imagine the media attention and story lines a series like that would get.

[@carletonrutherford1799]

ROFLMAO!! If you think Calgary is coming out of the west with that roster, you are delusional.

[@allansbullet]

Somehow I don't think whoever you're praying to will answer your prayers, especially from the Calgary standpoint!! May your god go with you!!

[@Pix3lPalace]

Comment aged like milk

[@ArmChairGMPodcast]

What a fantastic trade for both sides! Welcome to the C of Red Boys, we are excited to see you rip it up, and good luck in (thank god) the east chucky! You'll be missed!

[@tommycryptic]

Huberdeau is in a contract year so he'll be playing at his best no doubt. The Flames can always trade him to a contender if things aren't going well. I think the Flames win speculatively.

[@johnturk158]

I think worst case is Huberdeau does well, Calgary makes the playoffs (doesnt trade him at the deadline) then he leaves next summer for nothing.

[@jadenn216]

@@johnturk158 it was even worse than that😂😂😂

[@jadenn216]

lmao no...hes trash without a star next too him...hes too scared to shoot while Tkachuk isnt scared to make the big plays which is why he has 110 points

[@johnturk158]

@KL_Panther worst case scenario, calgary gives him 10M+ 8 year extension. And he turns into a 15 goal scorer.

[@SirCanuckelhead]

I wonder if van and Calgary make a trade. Calgary always need more Canucks, JT would be a huge add up front for them and van need top 4 d men. I wish there was a way for van to move either oel or Myers.

[@bn_2759]

This is the most insane trade I have ever seen in my 15-20 years of following the National Hockey League.

[@Reider242]

Thanks Steve

[@rickbeith3336]

The second, third and eighth leading scorers from last year have changed teams.

[@jamiestuart8551]

Idk I think you made a good point. Excellent off season news, trades like this. One team way over the salary cap, another with the potential to lose all that value from the trade next season. The players going to new teams where are they going to fit in? Who won the trade? who lost? This feeds into all the different hockey podcasts TV news? available out there today. Those over the cap , losing great players for nothing etc. Great grist for the mill...Have fun you guys!!

[@amhelm86]

It's interesting to watch this a month after it happened... especially since Huberdeau has signed long term, Monohan has been traded and Kadri has signed.

[@jadenn216]

hasnt really worked for the flames lol...thanks for Tkachuk though

[@amhelm86]

@@jadenn216 Not Flames fan. Actually, I cheer for the other Tkachuk.

[@doug7170]

So far the off season has been pretty entertaining its great.

[@Blue4Skies1]

I have a weird thought. Could Dallas pull a Tkachuk and quickly sign Klingberg in a trade with CGY for Weegar and Valimaki. Even if Dallas doesn’t trade Klinger to CGY, do you think Dallas might try that?

[@ReviewyCA]

As a Flames fan, I'm always wary of trades - they seem to either be '92 In the trade, where the Leafs offloaded Gary Leeman, Alexander Godynyuk, Jeff Reese, Michel Petit and Craig Berube on us while fleecing us for Jamie Macoun, Ric Nattress, Kent Manderville and Rick Wamsley... oh yeah, and Doug Freakin' Gilmour; or they're '95 when we send away Nieuwendyk for Corey Millen and some guy names Jerome. Time will tell which type of trade this is!

[@ronh2660]

Don't forget Brett Hull

[@cheynebest7028]

Crazy to think hull went in the 6th round then and had a 27 goal rookie season

[@trevmac8362]

That trade still never got the Leafs a Cup

[@bobbystrachan6345]

Can’t wait for the trade tree video on this in 8 years

[@dancingbabybins]

Is Ekblad gettable for a reasonably cheap oiler deal like a puljujarvi,barrie, 2023 first?

[@braydenunderscore6002]

Oiler fans laughing at us for losing Tkachuk too as if we wouldn’t get a haul back for him LMFAO

[@Tyekiller115]

Currently it is impossible to say but huby and weegar being a ufa in 1 year may hurt them alot. Also i wanna see how chucky will be with barkov/Bennett

[@Tomatohater64]

GM's job most definitely on the line in Calgary after this trade. I think they must sign both after this season for Calgary to win this deal.

[@firstrateduelist4377]

Things to remember about resigning Huberdeau and Weegar: The cap is going to increase most likely, and Monahan + Lucic are expiring, adding an additional 11 million dollars in cap space to resign them both, while leaving behind the contracts Huberdeau and Weegar currently have, that's roughly an additional 20 million dollars in cap space just from these 4 players expiring, and 20 million dollars is MORE than enough to resign all of these guys with cap to spare.

[@michael-hz6md]

it’s if they wanna stay, not how much the flames have to offer. that’s why tkachuk left, he just didn’t want to stay in calgary

[@firstrateduelist4377]

@@michael-hz6md He was open to resigning before Gaudreau left, also Calgary looks REALLY good if they just acquire some extra roster filler for the forward core, might convince Huberdeau to stay if they do good in the playoffs.

[@amatt2116]

This is the dawn of a very interesting trade tree. Wonder how it's gonna play out

[@tannerw817]

As a wings fan I love that our team got better this off-season... As a wings fan I hate that nearly every other team in the Atlantic got better and we still won't sniff the playoffs

[@JPMadden]

Regarding Patrick Hornqvist, I was thinking of Anaheim, not Arizona. Anaheim is more than $8.4 below the cap minimum.

[@MaGiKFuNgUs57]

I’m really hoping the Flames sign Mangiapane for around 4mil AAV and Kylington for about 2.5 per. Then they have time to work on possibly getting an extension done with Huby and Weegar

[@gregC89]

I think Mangiapane can ask for much more

[@strictlyroots7343]

Calgary is deep on D, they don't really need Weeger. I expect they trade him or another top-4 D for a forward to play on the top line.

[@nerinamak3298]

Wrong, there was only one 100 point player traded. Huberdeau is at best a point per game guy. Florida knew that and wont pay him his asking price.

[@AtrainAlex89]

As of right now Calgary fleeced Florida, however if neither player signs an extension then it's the other way around

[@CanadianGuinea16]

I completely disagree as if neither Weegar or Huberdeau resign, then all teams lose. Both Huberdeau and Weegar could've told Florida that they had zero plans to resign, and that still wouldn't change that Florida should've gotten SOOOOOOOOOOO much more than just Tkachuk. Tkachuk was publicly known to be on the trade block, refusing to resign with Calgary. That wasn't the case for Huberdeau or Weegar. Florida gave up waaaay too much for Tkachuk, whether or not they resign with Calgary. Florida lost this trade majorly. Now we just wait to see if Calgary did too.

[@ramd9532]

Huberdeau and Weager might not resign.

[@rickyaz8640]

You don’t get rid of 24 year old stars if you want to build a championship caliber team.

[@rickyaz8640]

@CL who’s talking about being captain? FL gets peak years of Tkachuk with a locked in contract while Calgary gets a couple of rentals looking for bloated contracts for their declining years and a likely low first round pick 2 years from now. Probably a 50% chance the Calgary GM is gone before that draft pick is even made. Players of MK caliber win you Cups. He’s 24, not 30. Those years are incredibly valuable

[@ramd9532]

​@@wayne6777 You brought up some good points... but in my opinion... this only works if Flames dont make the playoffs. If they dont make it, then by all means we can trade them before the deadline to contending teams. But if Flames make the playoffs, I can't see Treliving trading Huberdeau and Weeger. He rather keep them to try and make a deep playoff run for his own team. The only problem with that is once playoffs are over it is done, they are free to go. So your only getting them for 1 year out of them. Unless you can still trade them after the playoffs, but im not sure i think contract is expired.

[@JeremiahAKAtheSportsBeard]

I love the off-season Steve!

[@mattheworlandi1129]

Either Bill Zito has balls of steel, or he's completely lost his mind. Or both.

[@GetTheFOutOfMyWay]

Til yesterday when this deal was made the most hilarious entertainment news was of Laine and Dubois situations. Lol

[@Rellx305]

This aged well for the panthers 😂

[@co2angel899]

If Huberdeau keeps any production and resigns it’s Calgary with an absolute steal of a deal, if he doesn’t resign comes down to Cole Schwindt and the 1st rounder. Weegar is kinda a big add on for Calgary regardless

[@ICraneI]

The biggest catch is If the flames are doing good and will make playoffs they will not trade Hubby or Weger but if they’re already out of a playoff spot they will trade them at the deadline

[@isaiah3864]

Well, Brad certainly delivered

[@sikkerthensatan]

on the flip side chances are they can get a 1st plus plus for hubes and chances are a first plus for weeger let alone if they come with extensions then that price skyrockets if worse case scenario pops

[@nikthequick9688]

As a Panthers fan I hope they won after it's all said and done. Definitely a business decision but yea we have to move Bob and if not Hornqvist. I was upset though when I saw the trade but can't do anything about it so moved on and hope for the best. Thanks Hubbie for your years in Florida. I liked Weegar but he made some costly mistakes in the playoffs and in the end that is what matters most

[@jadenn216]

It worked bro I love Tkachuk

[@XaviRonaldo0]

The thing is this was a win win for Treliving. If Calgary falls off he's probably sacked anyway. The new GM would have a pretty much clean slate to work with. There are a lot of expiring contracts in 2023 and 2024. They don't have that much cap space. They still need to sign Magiapanne and Kyllington.

[@jimwilson4043]

Huberdeau and Weegar will both go back south when the Free agency comes up , more and more players will stop coming to Canada (like baseball ) and more will demand trades to U.S. teams

[@terryfarrelly7903]

I think there is a part of this trade that no one is talking about. Sutter. I have no doubt that both Gaudreau and MT were better players because they bought in to Sutter's style. To me the question is does Huberdeau and Weeger able to but into Sutter's system and show that improvement that he can bring to a player. If not then I think you have to move them at trade deadline. I think January or february will be the time we will know if they have bought in and want to stay.

[@Ohhelmno]

My guess is if they don’t sign long term deals with Huberdeau and Weegar by mid year they may trade them at the deadline, especially if they’re not in the playoffs, although I expect them to be close.

[@Qmocean]

Kadri has stated a few times that he lives Calgary. He only vetoed the trade to try and stay in Toronto. When they then traded him to Colorado, he realized he wasn't going to get to stay in Toronto.

[@TheMusicstati0n]

It’s nuts now huberdaue is signed for 8 years , kadri signed with the flames and weeger is on the verge of an extension

[@likeag1000]

This can't be seen as ANYTHING but a MASSIVE W for the Flames. Their backs were completely against the wall but Treliving pulled a rabbit out of a hat. With Gaudreau leaving and Tkachuk letting the Flames know he wasn't coming back, they had two options as a franchise: 1) Tear it down and rebuild or 2) Make some moves to try and stay a playoff team. Treliving managed to go for the hybrid option which I didn't even think was possible. He acquired a 1st line LW and a top pair dman (at the very worst a top 4 dman) so we can compete this year, while still acquiring assets for the future. Mark my words, either/both players are being signed to long term deals or either/both are being traded at the deadline for a boatload of assets which will undoubtedly include 1st round picks and top prospects. Treliving will not let either of them walk for nothing. I firmly believe the only reason Gaudreau walked for nothing, is because up until the very last second, Treliving really believed Gaudreau was indeed coming back. Gaudreau himself even mentioned that. So are the Flames worse off at forward this upcoming season compared to last season? Sure. We lost Gaudreau and Tkachuk. But getting Huberdeau back makes up for a lot of that loss. Are we better off on D? Yes. We essentially switched Gudbranson for Weegar. So are we a top team in the Pacific again? No. But are we still a playoff team, I say yes. But again, if there is even a slight indication that Huberdeau/Weegar are not resigning, they are both gone for the best available packages. I trust Treliving when it comes to getting value for assets that either don't fit well with the team, don't want to be here or their time is simply up with the Flames. See below for examples: Sven Baertschi --> Rasmus Andersson Dougie Hamilton, Adam Fox, Michael Ferland --> Elias Lindholm, Noah Hanifin James Neal --> Milan Lucic+3rd round pick Jiri Hudler --> 2nd round pick, 4th round pick Kris Russell --> 2nd round pick (Dillon Dube), Jyrki Jokipakka, Brett Pollock Curtis Glencross --> 2nd round pick, 3rd round pick

[@hockeycentral1149]

They need sign them to extensions, otherwise it's W for Florida

[@stentorofsparta3576]

Didn’t even read all that but I’m still gonna assume you write a better article than Eric Francis.

[@likeag1000]

@@stentorofsparta3576 I appreciate that hahah

[@likeag1000]

@@hockeycentral1149 No. If they don't sign extensions but the Flames TRADE them for huge returns, then it is still a massive W for CGY because Flames manage to maximize assets. They already have a 1st and a decent prospect from this trade. Imagine adding multiples 1sts, 2nds and prospects from trading both Huberdeau and Weegar. If both of them walk in free agency, then yes it's a W for Florida, but Treliving is not going to let it get to that point.

[@carletonrutherford1799]

@@likeag1000 Dude, they are *Unrestricted* free agents after this year. Why would a team give them multiple picks for players they can sign for nothing after the contracts expire?

[@TheBulbasaurKing]

The first round pick and prospect in my eyes is just assurance that Calgary doesn't get fleeced a few years down the road should Huberdeau walk for nothing. If Huberdeau's contract of $5.9 mill was a year or two longer, there probably wouldn't be a first and prospect involved.

[@tamirshimshoni8185]

It kinda seems like the Flames are thinking they have a good chance for a deep playoff run next season, which is why they're trading for players that will have a lot of value in the short term. As for resigning them... that's next years' Flames problem.

[@KingLos95]

Huberdeau is going to sign with Montreal next off-season. I mean as a panther fan, this trade breaks my heart… But it also clearly tells me that Huberdeau & Weegs weren’t going to sign long-term with the Panthers as they were upcoming UFA’s, just like Tkachuk was. But I can’t understand letting Weegar go.. AND the prospects. Not to mention that Huberdeau was a corner stone franchise player for this team

[@guyami8892]

Florida definitely got the better of the trade. Not only do they get Tkachuk but they also got that extension.

[@geckothegreene]

I think Calgary got a good haul , especially considering the circumstances, but next season is going to be a dangerous one. If they can lock up Huberdeau & Weeger long term early in the season? Great, they've won the trade. If they fall out of playoff contention, can't sign the new players, and have to trade them at the deadline? Not the worst, Calgary is now forced into a rebuild, but they should be able to land a big enough haul to at least make it a supercharged rebuild with a ton of assets, and might at least win the "trade tree" if not the initial trade itself. But if they are close but just miss the playoffs, or squeak in but get bounced early, and then Huberdeau and Weeger walk as UFAs? Absolute disaster- they've basically traded away Tkachuk for a low 1st and change, and Calgary has cemented a reputation as a franchise which can't attract or keep star players.

[@testecalle3378]

It all depends on if the chemistry gets mangled and if Tchuck come play with barkov

[@bdawk511]

This off-season has been nutty

[@SylveonMujigae]

I wonder how this trade worked out for the Flames…

[@MuchNinija00]

The Lucic contract is done next year too. Which is exciting.

[@ryanjulian4148]

If you look at present situation, I think the Flames concern was that if Tkachuk wasn't going to sign, and if through arbitration, they probably spend 8+ million for one more year, so with that trade they require to pieces, since 1 piece walk out one them, Johnny Hockey. They have now a defense depth, where the can make hockey trade to add depth up front. I think if the Flames were signing anyone of the 2, it be Weeger. Huberdeu be a trade deadline decision. But out of a guy the was leave anyways, they got 1st and 3rd out of it, no matter what comes from the other outcome. Tkachuk wins and Florida looses, they got hole in backend and how are Florida to produce the offence need with hole in backend if their general of offense was traded to the Flames. The Atlantic is probably the most upgrade division, and I don't believe if Florida don't win over half of those comeback wins that they won last year if they're staring at playoff birth

[@VivecsTDawg]

Huberdeau is an superb candidate for a playoff push for any team that has a little bit of money and wants a massive push. Weeger as well. Calgary could begin their rebuild on trading those two to a team that really wants the cup.

[@chillywilly61]

💀

[@NobeRobe]

Weegar superb candidate for playoff push? Did you actually watch him play? Guy is a liability...

[@scottpark4134]

Arguably two superstar players that are atrocious in the playoffs. Huby, who was the supposed superstar on fla who only had 5 points while playing with barkov and giroux? As someone else said, Weegar cost us two games. This is a joke. Massive dub for fla if matthew can continue to play.

[@BWalker9313]

If they're not extended then it's a guarantee that both guys would be moved at the deadline. No way we would just let them leave

[@VVhitesOnly88]

You can't blame these guys for wanting out of Canada. I feel bad for Huberdeau. He will not stay long; the taxes alone will be enough for him to say see ya Canada. 2 million in taxes or something like that.

[@death420face]

How is it a debate? The flames traded a 4th round pick and guy who wouldn't sign, for two guys who MIGHT not sign, and a prospect, and a first round pick... Am I missing something?