Advent Rising - What Happened?

[@MattMcMuscles]

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[@thekornreeper]

Nice

[@nellyp2622]

I ordered mine. My 9 yr old saw it and may be even more excited than I am.

[@Ephino]

A game that I don't think will ever have the behind the scenes explained but would make a great What happened if it could, Kingdom Under Fire 2

[@princeami7344]

But Wha Happun'd to Valkarie Studios?? I must KNOOoooooow!

[@michaelfrank2951]

I specifically searched to see what happened to this game. it was so wonderful and had dual rocket launchers, and yet seems to have been completely forgotten.

[@KainGerc]

"I want people to be confused about where its origins are" Always the sign of a great story.

[@CornBreadtm1]

Yeah, Dragon Age: Origins makes no sense as a title, why are they so eager to inform people of the origins?!! It's like they planned on making a great game or something! Disgusting!

[@cobratrooper7940]

@@CornBreadtm1 Random trivia: they went Dragon Age: Origins to put emphasis on the six origin stories you could choose from.

[@Nikelaos_Khristianos]

Success achieved. Confusion presently prevailing.

[@registereduser]

Throw that up there with “subverting expectations”.

[@HitoZhi]

@@cobratrooper7940 ”

[@AbsoluteTravisT]

Imagine spending months crafting a huge multimedia saga and then tell people to essentially speedrun the game as soon as it comes out for a chance at that sweet $1m.

[@pikaby]

@@XanthinZarda SwordQuest for Atari 2600. The first two parts of the contest were indeed won by people, but Atari fell fast and hard in the mid 80s so the rest of the games and contest were never done. Either way, this sort of thing would be near impossible to do in 2005 I'd think, when access to the internet is more widespread and people could cheat much easier.

[@brennanwn]

What 😲😲

[@VGPorage]

@@rcmero Wich ironically also tried to be the next multimedia empire but failed.

[@jordanwhite352]

Welcome to the 00's.

[@seanfinley2069]

Bill Jemas gets billed as "a former Marvel Comics bigwig" here but he's one of the most infamous bosses in Marvel history. He spearheaded some truly awful comics during his time there. At one point wrote a series himself on a dare after an argument with an author at Marvel, and it (the "comedy" book Marville) is commonly regarded as the worst thing Marvel's ever published. It's hilarious that he just pops in here as a cameo to contribute to this trainwreck.

[@SuperTed641]

He was also the guy, that got us to the Marvel MCU in a way, for better or for worst.

[@battlion507]

@@SuperTed641 I thought that was Avi Arid? Cuz I recall someone else thought that it was Joe Quesada that gave us the MCU... and were corrected.

[@SuperTed641]

@@battlion507 okay, to be more specific, he was more like a step, I guess, to getting us to the MCU. He came in after Marvel declared bankruptcy in the '90s (yep, believe it or not, Marvel at one time was bankrupt). When he came in, he kinda helped get Marvel back on it's feet, business wise, and helped it wrangle back media rights to a lot of it characters after a lot of them we're caught in legal limbo due to various reasons, and helped them sell off those rights, to help get us to the pre-MCU wave if Marvel films in the early 2000's.

[@SAPProd]

You have to wonder what Donald Mustard thinks of the Mass Effect series, especially the first time he saw/played the first game.

[@mrjameshendry]

Advent Rising is the Bubsy 3D to Mass Effect's Mario 64

[@vedbergsmagicalworld]

@@thecunninlynguist fack!!

[@Dyknown]

"Hey, it's this generation's Star Wars, suck it Halo!" Then, "DANG IT!"

[@kenterminateddq5311]

@@mrjameshendry Mass Effect Andromeda is the Advent Rising of the M.Effect series.

[@nhojeod7390]

Probably. "Wow and I thought my game sucked."

[@BigCalsWorld]

"The Mustard Brothers" sound like some B-Grade 3D Platformer Villain's henchmen.

[@ThEjOkErIsWiLd00]

And their names would be Dijon and Honey.

[@ironmaster6496]

hahahaha

[@MrOnepiecem7]

@@ironmaster6496 Callate tu.

[@lworthy2518]

@@XanthinZarda Yep. Toriyama and his thing for pun names strike again.

[@Shadowslash1]

Someone make that into a game XD

[@crossbones116]

Alright gang let's put our heads together and win that cash prize.

[@Psycorde]

There's still time

[@Leelamon]

You son of a b*tch, I'm in!

[@sketch92]

Lets fuckin GOOOOOOOOOOO

[@M0vess]

LETS GO! WOOOOO

[@crimsonbutterfly2282]

Alright fellas, when do we start?

[@ratchetxtreme6591]

“Advent is the least awesome of my stuff” - Donald Fortnite Mustard

[@saintrocketIX]

I mean, he wasn't wrong.

[@MetalGearRAY675]

@@saintrocketIX Ironically from his least ambitious projects too. funny how that works out.

[@joesmutz9287]

@@MetalGearRAY675 Extra funny when you realize that Infinity Blade managed to do exactly what he was aiming for here Genre revolutionizing gameplay Trilogy with solid plot and world Multimedia franchise Big name author doing the tie in material I guess he just needed a trial run first

[@ironmaster6496]

i know he is boasting but...why start with the least good of your ideas? it's dumb and risky

[@Sonic09Hedgehog]

@@ironmaster6496 You answered your own question.

[@BiggestGal]

Not gonna lie, this whole video has me mad concerned because I have an art friend with all these stories he wants to tell and while I trust him enough to make the comics he wants to convey these stories through, he also wants to make a side-scrolling beat em up, and an MMORPG and this whole video has those alarm bells ringing mad loud in my ears.

[@MarshmallowHope536]

Just tell them to primarily focus on one kind of storytelling in this case the comics. Then pursue the games only if the comics are well received and get enough notoriety to be able to partner with people who could make those games possible.

[@Web720]

Okay that MMO idea is the worst out of all. MMOs are fucking huge massive talent, money, and time sinks than all the others in video games.

[@dauntlessoperator41]

Your friend has a big dream, and that is awesome! To mamy people let theirs die and become bitter. You can support and guide him to help avoid the "Advent Pitfall". Assist in maintaing quality and integrity. If he fails at any one thing...that is a leveling up learning experience. Good Luck to your friend.

[@matthewbrooks5470]

I get the feeling, Matt's going to eventually run into an entire series of "I've delayed this long enough" videos

[@moncho_mx]

Imagine being Tim Schafer and watch all that marketing budget just getting burned for Advent Rising.

[@princeapoopoo5787]

well psychonauts 2 is already getting glowing reviews so i feel like he's probably having the last laugh now

[@NearbyHades]

Did you ever play it? I doubt it. It was gold for its time. stop blindly hating it moron

[@princeapoopoo5787]

@@falconeshield Bruh, I'm more of a Sony fan than a Microsoft one, and I'm so here for Psychonauts 2

[@djhero0071]

Is it an Xbox exclusive or something?

[@VerganKnight]

Donald Mustard - "Known for Advent Rising, Shadow Complex, Fortnite and Star Wars Episode IX - Rise of Skywalker" That makes a lot more sense now

[@ShadowJohansson1994]

You Karen! Rise of Skywalker was good!

[@latrodectusmactans7592]

​@@ShadowJohansson1994 When I watched Rise of Skywalker with a friend, I remember the conversation afterwards being like: "This was a pretty fun mindless blockbuster. But man, this sucked as the end of a trilogy." I really liked the Last Jedi. Even if you don't like it, you have to admire some of the new developments it added to the Star Wars universe: Rey came to terms with her past and can focus on the future with building a new Jedi Order (with ghost Luke providing frequent counsel), Poe learned how to be a leader instead of just a fighter and Leia can pass the torch to him to rally the Galaxy to the Resistance, Finn conquered his demons and can now focus on freeing other Stormtroopers from their indoctrination... All while Kylo Ren, too far gone, sets the Galaxy on fire with the First Order because he has nothing left. Maybe you would have wanted the story to go in a different direction than that, and that's cool too. The Last Jedi provided a bunch of options for something new. And instead... We got Return of the Jedi but worse. :( Retconning Rey to be a Palpatine, having Rey struggle with the exact same conflicts Luke did, and bringing back Palpatine in the same role he had before speak to a lack of confidence. The worst is Luke catching the lightsaber, even though him throwing away his lightsaber and refusing to strike down Vader was his triumph in Return of the Jedi.

[@KingPK]

Every video game creator needs to have "Don't expect players to read a fucking comic book to understand your story" tattooed somewhere where they can always see it.

[@senormarston]

Yes, that's such an idiotic idea. We shouldn't be forced to read/watch other medias in other to understand the story of one single video game ; these creators lose their shits and start to believe their works are gonna make people fascinated with it like Star Wars or Star Trek level 🤦‍♂️

[@senormarston]

@@HelghastStalker yes, it's so fucking annoying wanting to relate to the characters but there's so little to work with since a lot of important informations are in books/comics/etc.

[@joeyjojoshabadoo2508]

fuck it, EVERY media creator should abide by this. Im looking at you Star Wars since the prequels

[@drewdman10]

​@@joeyjojoshabadoo2508that brief moment in time when the force unleashed was cannon was pretty cool though

[@lloydpatam4189]

It's funny that he did it again with Fortnite.

[@Snev]

Legit just started playing this game earlier this week. I'll admit, infamy aside, I really bought this just because Will Friedle plays the player character, but it's been fairly decent so far

[@TheEmperorHyperion]

Isn't Will Friedle the guy who played Terry McGinnis in Batman Beyond?

[@lordxmugen]

@@TheEmperorHyperion yes. hes also the older brother in Boy Meets World.

[@PINKEDASHPT]

@@lordxmugen and ron stoppable!

[@wadespencer3623]

Honestly every indication I get is that the game isn't bad, it's just agonizingly overambitious.

[@SirHugsalot13th]

@@lordxmugen Oh jeez, the lot of you just blew my mind!

[@TheLandofObscusion]

I remember having a fun time with Advent Rising back on the Xbox. Definitely a fun, if flawed & way too ambitious, game. As for Majesco, it published the Nintendo Switch port of Double Dragon Neon at the end of last year, but beyond that has gone back into hiding, seemingly having sold all of its remaining original IPs to ZIggurat. Shame, too, as it was one of the more interesting "B player" game publishers, and would actually make for an interesting "What Happened?" episode. Going from "video game republisher" to "independent porting house" to "getting hold of really cool Japanese Xbox games (& Psychonauts)" to "failing to enter the AAA market" to "being the house that Cooking Mama rebuilt" to "dead-then-not-dead publisher".

[@BigEOT3]

You have to remember they also helped Nintendo with GBA Video, TV shows on the go. You could watch Sonic X and Rugrats All Grown Up in quality worse than early ScrewAttack videos. They even had Shrek 1 & 2[the best Shrek films] and Oscar winning director/Marvel hater Martin Scorsese in his greatest film role ever in SharkTale.

[@Campbellzilla]

If you're going to make a comic to promote your franchise, of course you'll get Bill Jemas the guy who wrote Marville which stipulates that mankind evolved from Otters into the X-Men character Wolverine after talking Jewish duckbilled dinosaurs went extinct because their spines couldn't regulate their internal body temperature......That's all real by the way, this isn't a joke.

[@battlion507]

And Bill believes it's all true. He's a Harvard graduate!

[@irighterotica]

I honestly didn't believe you so I went and looked it up just now, and I have to say: I'm sorry for doubting you.

[@D00D64]

The one thing I most remember about Advent Rising was Tommy Tallarico's glowing review, where he praised his own sownd design, especially how good those footstep sounds were. I don't remember if his co-host liked it.

[@MrTBoneSF]

His fellow G4 reviewers hated it. XPlay gave it a Golden Mullet as one of the year's worst for being a glitchy, bland Halo ripoff. Adam Sessler gave a special shout-out to the score as being a blatant knockoff of Halo's with some random guitar riffs (gee, I wonder what non-music reading/writing self-promoting publicity clown did those?) thrown on top for no reason.

[@spyrusthedeathless]

@@MrTBoneSF can’t wait until Intellivision Amico gets torn apart in one of these retrospectives

[@DarthTigris]

@@MrTBoneSF The score sounded nothing like Halo, but that's some classic G4 Aughts snark there ...

[@DrUSB]

his mother is very proud

[@fireaza]

"Epic Games acquires chair" is one hell of a headline.

[@bubbabibleman5970]

This really looks like the blandest Sci-Fi I've ever seen. Everything looks so soulless and generic and the protagonist looks like the default settings on a character creator. So funny how Mustard thought it was gonna be the next Dune.

[@jordanwhite352]

That's what I thought too when I saw pics in magazines.

[@Imghey123lol]

Idk. The story was really original. The twist with the humans being the exterminators of races (with the invading aliens being the ones who were trying to prevent the rise of another human empire civilization) was cool

[@bubbabibleman5970]

@@Imghey123lol That's basically Enders Game. Which Orson Scott Card wrote lol

[@AJthePup]

Unlike a good chunk of episodes from this series you see real talent, passion, and creativity from the devs. Makes the game's failure really tragic.

[@Dyknown]

Given that these guys grew out of a studio dedicated to box art and FMVs, it's actually pretty cool. Unfortunately, it's tied to the marketing, so instead of Flawed and Impressive Given Its Origins, well...

[@ironmaster6496]

yeah their only crime were just bein overly ambitious with a clear lack of focus

[@AJthePup]

@@Sea-Salt I mean I would argue that a shit on of gaming failures are due to soulless money grabs with no creative vision or care. Just AAA companies that want to line their pockets.

[@mayafeyplushie2025]

The Game everyone told me was a misunderstood masterpiece this is why I have trust issues

[@ddjsoyenby]

first time.........don't worry you'll get used to it.

[@NickChad]

I can't explain why I love it, I've been brainwashed

[@shadeknight6537]

I guess the Wing Commander movie would be an interesting subject for Wha Happun? After all, the guy who made the games directed the movie, and yet, it was such a radical departure in what everything Wing Commander stood for, and featured none of the actors from the games reprising their role on the big screen.

[@jakey14344]

It is all Executive BS after all courtesy of Fox. They should have let actors reprise their roles instead of dragging Kanan from Star Wars Rebels and one of the killers from Scream 1 into this mess.

[@shadeknight6537]

@@jakey14344 That explains the actors, but that doesn't explain the script, which digs into supernatural nonsense, something the games went out of their way to avoid relying on.

[@KentaroMiyamoto21]

Such amazing potential. So many incredibly stupid missteps. Maybe Mustard should've started with a game, or a book, or a comic, and spread out from there, instead of doing all of it at once.

[@CyberkillGames]

Yeah, pick a medium to start your franchise with and make a good story in that medium. Then you can try to start expanding into other forms of media.

[@UndeadEggmiester]

I don't remember ever hearing about this game but God it sounds like a nice clusterfuck of silly life choices. Gotta love when people plan a multi media ip even if they have no idea how to do it.

[@oh-not-the-bees7872]

Theres a first time for everything

[@deathseraph3]

Yeah it's a very dumb move. If they always planned for there to be things like comics, might have been best to start with that, then plan more things after you get your audience.

[@SuperNuclearUnicorn]

"and in today's episode of why you shouldn't throw all your money on marketing instead of making a decent game..."

[@raceris7309]

🎶Let's all laugh at an industry that never learns anything teeheehee!🎶

[@haveaniceday.productions]

As a frequent player of Fortnite, I find it so fascinating to hear Mustard's storytelling philosophy over a decade before Fortnite existed... because he's implemented that same philosophy to Fortnite's lore. Things are purposefully confusing, the story is spread across multiple mediums - the difference now is he has endless resources to actually do it, thanks to Epic's giant, Scrooge McDuck-esque ocean of V-Bucks.

[@togliz]

It really adds a new dimension to the Palpatine reveal for episode IX in Fortnite. Was that Mustard's idea??

[@nihilegojelly7747]

I’m just waiting for Advent Rising to get referenced in the lore(I could see it as a “Nothing-Class Reality” that got decimated by Cube Queen)

[@euphoriantremedy]

I absolutely fell for the marketing campaign behind this one when I was a kid. Remember being so stoked for the trilogy, lol.

[@montague4931]

I remember seeing this game getting advertised a lot on TV. I think I had just started watching G4TV back when they actually did shows talking about video games before doing shows that...didn't do that. Please do a Wha Happun on G4 one of these days, please and thank you.

[@onigames7309]

They have a KZbin channel now, and yes, they still talk about games.

[@jimmyv3170]

G4 was great before they decided reruns of COPS and Cheaters should be the channels main programming.

[@ddjsoyenby]

g4 was amazing.

[@thehonorablereverendaddiso1943]

@@onigames7309 If it doesn't have episodes of Web Soup, I'm not interested

[@thehonorablereverendaddiso1943]

@@jimmyv3170 Web Soup was a childhood memory

[@remem95]

Matt: "Silicon Graphics" My brain: *Gaming in the Clinton Years flashbacks*

[@dopesickdog]

shoutout to Caddicarus for teaching us that invaluable piece of gaming history

[@JPH1138]

I love Enders Game and Speaker of the Dead, but if I had to think of an established sci-fi writer to write JUST DIALOGUE for my characters, Orson Scott Card would be near the bottom of the list.

[@Ka-tet84]

I remember being SO excited for this game. Pre-ordered and got it at launch. I swear I had no concept of what a buggy game was before this. I almost thought there was something wrong with my specific copy. Lol. I had never experienced a broken game before and it was a horrifying revelation. 😅

[@arcanusafonso2647]

You know things will be good when we start with an MTV interview

[@busterboy_22]

Just suddenly occurred to me that Fortnite is basically exactly what Donald Mustard wanted Advent Rising to be

[@samfivedot]

I need you all to understand how bad the "flick-targeting" mechanic felt to use. The framerate tanking whenever multiple enemies were onscreen was bad enough, but having to wrestle with that flick-targeting crap made the game absolutely unplayable. You'd try to adjust the camera a little bit and your lock-on would like, snap to an enemy that was behind you. I have no idea how anyone thought it was a good idea.

[@robertfinn1899]

My only exposure to Advent Rising was when my Orchestra teacher included the main theme in our line up for a show. Who was that for?!?!?!

[@Dyknown]

It still shows up in Video Games Lives performances by Tallerico, which at this point is starting to get dated in spite of the quality of its music. And no, not because of Advent Children- one of the songs they perform is for Halo 3 >_>

[@davidscott9257]

ahhh, my all time fave youtube series. Matt is the hardest working guy on youtube hands down.

[@Znieh1]

My favorite thing from this game is Tommy Tallarico’s review where he praised the sound of the footsteps on the various surfaces.

[@EverydayNormal]

I just saw the news about Concord and searched for a similar situation from yesteryear. This brought back memories. There is so much more to the story than this. Just one piece is that the locations for the contest icons were not encrypted in the original code and users found the locations before they were turned on. Glyphx rushed to their most brilliant, best looking QA engineer to provide new locations and he gave them places which they did not think it was possible to reach in the game. They updated with the encrypted icon locations just in time for Majesco to read sales figures and cancel the whole thing. There is so much more than even that though. Great video.

[@Zenlore6499]

Damn, going from THAT, to freaking Shadow Complex is impressive!

[@EmperorSeth]

Shame he let Card stick around.

[@ourdivinemouseoverlord3308]

A Battlefield Earth "What Happened?" is destined to happen one day.

[@nicnew]

Advent Rising has a special place in my heart. I really wanted to know what happened next by the time i finished it. If anyone is about to play through it on steam, be sure to download the fanmade Advent Revising patch which fixes things such as restoring cutscenes that were only on the Xbox version.

[@rubberstack]

One funny thing that wasn't mentioned here, was that the sales were so low, that eventually Majesco included a free copy of advent rising if you bought the DVD copy of movie Seed. So I doubt sales were good if they later included this as a free game for buying a dvd.

[@flippedoutkyrii]

The marketing was crazy for this game where I lived. It played non-stop on every TV Channel and was all over Gamespot and It sure as hell worked because I rented it 3 times. Still have fond memories of showing off my "Parkour" skills to my Grandma in the training simulator portion of the intro C:

[@AlexofZippo]

I am reminded of The Simpsons: “Fame first, then coke addiction.” Game first, then massive multimedia empire.

[@ACGreviews]

I have a softspot for this game

[@SirHugsalot13th]

Me, too. One of the few games I beat, let alone twice, when I was a teenager.

[@DoublexCoke]

Awesome to see you here Karak! congrats on on the podcast return and new channel content!

[@mr.nobody5082]

Same

[@MattMcMuscles]

That's totally fair, many people do. I didn't have an Xbox at the time, so I never would up playing this till like almost 10 years later. I do remember the contest being cancelled though.

[@andrewthekinsey]

@@MattMcMuscles I genuinely loved this game as a teenager, through its faults. The contest failing is what got me turned on to Psychonauts AND Guilty Gear which both have excellent new entries this year. I already had Phantom Dust, an absolute favorite hidden gem of mine. I'd love a Wha Happun for the sequel to that but I'd love more if everyone who reads this comment just went back and played the first one. It's free on XB and PC! There's been nothing like it, before or since.

[@communistwookiee4727]

I played Advent Rising when I was 14 and it blew me away. I didn't care about any technical issues and I didn't know about the development history. I just thought that it was a cool sci-fi game. I would actually love to see something come out of the IP acquisition.

[@ACTIONSALAD]

Replaying this epic journey now, damn it’s amazing. I really hope it gets a chance to have a sequel.

[@zanethezaniest274]

13:03 Hmm this Tommy guy seems familiar, either way I feel like his mother would be very proud of him.

[@KreuzDrache]

Hey, thanks for putting song titles in the description! Greatly appreciate it!

[@Hey-Its-Dingo]

14:23 "Orson Scott Card, for his part, would go on to be a miserable homophobe." Really fucking got me, dude. Lmao

[@NessExplains]

I feel like the only series I've ever seen that attempted to do a story spread across tv shows, books and games, from the very beginning, and actually managed to pull it off was .hack

[@gabrielsantiago7318]

10:20 does anyone know if this contest was even legal? Usually when a company holds a sweepstakes it needs to add a way for people to enter for free (that’s why you usually see the phrase ”no purchase necessary” to avoid it being an illegal lottery). I know AR’s contest fell through but thought that this might be another reason why they had to cancel it.

[@SolarMegaMan]

I'm not an expert by any means, but at least to my knowledge, it isn't considered illegal if you or someone you're working closely with isn't profiting from the additional purchase. In this case, the Xbox Live bit is a purchase, yes, but the money for it goes to Microsoft, and they're not about to cut Majesco a check for having advertised a sweepstakes any time soon. Like I said, though, I'm not an expert, so take it with a large grain of salt.

[@Elonyx.studios]

Ya know, as a comic book artist I almost fell into the same trap here. And a colleague of mine already fell into that pit before. The pit of coming up with so many ideas that you get over-excited and try to do too many things at once. My colleague was trying to make his indie comic a multi-media franchise, but didn't have the talent, money, people, money to pay said people, or the ability to be a boss and push the team to follow through on his goals. If you look at all of the world's biggest multi-media franchises today, none of them started off with the intent of being a multi-media franchise. They started off offering a solid, focused, singular product and SLOWLY branched out from there. That was the lesson I learned when I noticed myself slipping into the same void and thankfully getting myself out before I tanked my mental health and finances.

[@Tank207]

This game's soundtrack has been living in my head since 2005. I'll sometimes catch myself humming some of the tracks to this day.

[@GeneralBolas]

Wow, Advent Rising. I remember buying... the soundtrack, only dimly being aware that it was attached to a game of some kind. I learned of it thanks to a collection of videogame music I also purchased; it made me want to hear what else there was from the game.

[@simopen]

thank you for leaving Bloodwayne in

[@MongooseDave2]

I remember Tommy Tallarico and Victor Lucas reviewing this game on Judgment Day. I think Tommy gave it a pretty decent score (funny since he helped work on it) while Victor tore it to shreds; bearing in mind that their dynamic was usually the opposite with Victor taking it easy while Tommy liked to shit on things.

[@LicoriceLain]

Victor is a legend (and active to this day on EP).

[@deejay3839]

I was doing some retro watching while powering through a head cold and was totally reminded of this particular era. Im pretty sure there is one other transitional era sci-fi game that promised a lot and was quickly forgotten. Do you remember Pariah on the Xbox? It had a map editor and a genuinely half assed campaign and was an online focused effort that legitimately died with the console.

[@hammersticks7138]

I just remember seeing it on the shelf at Hollywood video always wanting to rent it as a kid just never did. Loved that cover art

[@FirstLast-cg2nk]

To all future game developers out there, take note: Before you start planning to make a multimedia empire around your future game product, you first need to make sure that your game is actually, you know, *good.*

[@King0fAllPixels]

It is impressive that these brothers almost willed their way to make it a reality, and that us something to respect

[@hamburg4034]

Perfect timing, I just finished watching Mandalore's vid on this and thought "That's getting a Whu happuned"

[@ciggy_]

Oh man… here we go again… the other Mustards… OFFICIAL STATEMENT On behalf of all of the Mustard family, we are very sorry about these events, let it be known that this is not the Mustard way. We’re all deeply sorry for anyone that had to endure hardship during these trying times. We Mustards are proud of our heritage and we will not let our name be tarnished by these two rascals that simply did not cut the Mustard! Sincerely, The Mustards.

[@loner1520]

What are they apologizing for

[@chrisworley23]

'Advent Rising' was, for me anyway, a very underappreciated game. It has some interesting concepts and I liked the idea of the story, cliffhanger ending pisses me off now, but back then I was excited to see what was next. The gameplay itself does have it's issues and bugs, but was still enjoyable. I remember having a blast shooting aliens and using your powers as well. At the time I liked the idea that the more you used weapons/powers that they leveled up the more you actually used them. Also it had Will Friedle voicing the lead so I also got a kick out of hearing Terry McGinnis and having fond memories of 'Batman Beyond' as I played.

[@Bogkun]

I actually deeply enjoyed the game when I played it way back when. This game came out when a time when dual wielding things was revolutionary and this game said, “Fuck it! Dual wield everything!” There was something deeply satisfying to being able to dual wield rocket launchers. Everything also had a secondary fire which was also a fun way to vary up the shooting. And then you got powers. I would almost break the game with the combos I would pull off after I would level up every new power I would get. The ability to momentarily stop time or create a temporary impenetrable bubble around you and just run around punching and kicking everything to death was fantastic! You could also dual wield and alt fire the powers and by the end of the game, you felt like a literal god with enemies falling around you like playthings to be thrown away as you saw fit. To have a game like that end on a ridiculous cliffhanger that would never be resolved was one of the biggest disappointments to me.

[@dougtheghoul2845]

Psychonauts is good. I guess it's a good thing that Double Fine acquired the rights to the IP.

[@cicada8981]

Can't imagine how much this must've hurt for those involved, but that's the problem with ambition. The future of your franchise doesn't really matter if you can't get a strong start since that's pretty much going to determine the fate of your work. It's a story told many times over, yet so few ever learn. Such is life, I suppose...

[@ThEjOkErIsWiLd00]

"Let's all laugh at an industry that never learns anything, tee hee hee."

[@Unquestionable]

My biggest memories of this game was how I very much expected it to be a disappointment. This launched about a year after the first Fable, the game that taught me to never listen to hype, so my expectations were very low. I think a friend and I played through it at one point when it was in the bargain bin. And low and behold only about two years later we got Mass Effect, which was what this game really wanted to be, and all was right with the world.

[@jheartnote1401]

I played this game back in 2008 on my PC. It was great and I loved the gameplay. Had GTA and Freedom Fighters sort of vibe in how you can see the whole character and the entire power + gunfire gameplay sold me! But there were way too many glitches in the game. I remember I killed this Dojo chracater twice and he is like a main alien and he is in cutscenes even when I killed him lol. Also the original game had a bug that wouldn't let you kill the second boss- that big monster in the cave you gotta drop a boulder on. My fav power was Shards and Aeon Pulse. The full powered Aeon Pulse is like a superman flare and so freaking cool! They could have made this game even better.

[@WinstonOfDojima]

I don’t know why my brain immediately read that as dead rising. I then was even more confused by the thumbnail. I was thinking “that’s not Frank west what the hell is Matt on?” Only to realize I need to be asking myself that question.

[@laat6503]

I wonder if his mother is very proud 13:02

[@juanatenco453]

I didn't know what AR was until you mention the 1M dollar contest, then I was like: "oh, so this is that game". That big failure is what the game is better known for. I'm not surprised this game was such a flop, if the creator was aiming to every piece of media he could think of, before he could actually release a good first game.

[@luigiosmbz]

I do, in fact, remember seeing the ads for the game at the movies. I had read up stuff by magazines before that, so I was aware of the game too. Was honestly surprising to see a video game ad in the theater at that point in time

[@csnaber]

I’m amazed by how fast you churn out these videos! Aren’t you worried you’ll run out of content one day? :)

[@MattMcMuscles]

I have a massive list, but I do have plans in the future to slow down just a bit

[@crimsonbutterfly2282]

@@MattMcMuscles Slowing things down a bit is very much a good thing, take care of yourself!

[@Shadowslash1]

"Aren't you worried you'll run out of content one day? :) " *puts up the phone, then hands it to you* EA would like to have a word with you =P

[@djhero0071]

So ESSENTIALLY, this game is if you took the horrible haphazard planning of the DCEU, mixed it with Tetsuya Nomura’s Kingdom Hearts plot line bullshit, and sprinkled in a 1 million dollar prize that doesn’t exist. Damn.

[@sauzarouge7450]

I've been waiting for this for a long time. The hype behind this was ground breaking. I still remember that crazy ass sweepstakes they had. Good times lol

[@zacharyhayden6521]

Donald Mustard seems like he was a guy who was for making expansive but vapid universes with appealing designs, he just didn't have the money to do it. Throw someone like that through enough projects and eventually they'll get enough reputation as a director to be handed the keys to the kingdom.

[@insertusernamehere51]

My suggestions: Command and Conquer 4 Sim City 2013 Spore Mother 3 SNK PopCap Games Point and Click adventures

[@moonjelly5]

I can answer PopCap games right now: EA. Also, somehow EA was the less evil of the two company's trying to buy them (the other being Zyngia (the Farmville guys)).

[@GiovanniScorpio777]

I legitimately thought you already made a 'what happened' on advent, but I'm happy either way. Damn Mandeville effect

[@xXFlameHaze92Xx]

13:08, dont worry, Hbomber guy have already a future lenght video about Thomas the Talarico Engine

[@Jevarohdail]

I asked my mom for this game, she asked my dad, whom their relationship had been long over, but she wanted to give him a chance to help her out. He asked how much it was and she said its prolly like 50-60 dollars and he told her I don't have money, they argue and I haven't seen him since. He's known where I was as a kid, but never attempted to reach me. Fast forward a few months I get the game, the thing I didn't mention being like 14 at the time, is that the game was like 2-3 years old, a massive flop, so the price tag in her mind was like 59, to like 10.

[@matthewboer8279]

This looks like the most 2000s game that ever was.

[@samquik]

"Limbo of the Lost" is calling Wha Happun's name, Matthew

[@evinbraley]

He'll need help from the King of Limbo to not lose his sanity making that video

[@James-gj8rn]

So you’ve finally done the mythical Advent Rising episode, I’m looking forward to this 😊

[@justanotheryoutubechannel]

I feel like the easiest solution to the contest would’ve been to use Xbox Live achievements, simply set up one that you got after getting all the symbols. After a week or two it would become super easy to cheat, but the first people to find them all would need to do it legit.

[@DaloKnight]

I've been waiting for this review for years! Thank you

[@rickdaniel7341]

kind of a missed opportunity to call him Colonel Mustard

[@jtm-inc2912]

.... WHY!? Why would you WANT your potential customers to be confused on where to start with the lore?! What kind of logic is that?!

[@ManinTidyWhities]

Oh yeah that game, where its theme song is that song you played in middle school orchestra class

[@brucybad_dad4285]

Now that you mentioned it, I do remember seeing the trailer for this before ROTS! I thought it looked epic and wished I had a Xbox at the time to play it since I only had a PS2🤣.

[@benmcnully2050]

Advent Rising looks just like a super early alpha mockup of Mass Effect

[@luckybeast1234]

I think the only exception to the rule of Multimedia franchises dying as soon as they are released is Bionicle The story was released with toys, magazines,comics, novels, commercials and videogames from day one and it was successful

[@elijahwatson3474]

It probably because bionicle had seen designs (easier to make and animated) and it started slow but got bigger overtime

[@charlesc.fuentes1033]

I would like to see a What Happened? video about Jupiter Ascending from 2015. The movie that almost ruined The Wachowskis' filmmaking career for a while.

[@snelldor1474]

Remember people, the key rules of actually making a creative process of making a video game, or just a franchise in general. Game now, sequels later.

[@SirHugsalot13th]

This actually kinda hurts, because I freaking love this game. It's one of the few games I bothered to play all the way through in my teenage years, at least twice (upon realizing I could choose between the girlfriend and brother, due to the ending cutscenes in the gallery being switched with the alternate choice, for some odd reason). I thoroughly enjoyed the game, I liked how you could equip each hand with either a gun or psychic power, I simply liked the mechanics it brought to the table (I played it on Xbox, btw, and I don't think I was even aware of the contest). When I beat the game and saw the cliffhanger, I was so desperate for the sequel, and had waited patiently for years (gaming news rarely reached my ears back then). We, at least now I know why the sequels never came. It breaks my heart, but that's life. Not everything you get attached to reaches its end. I love that remix of the theme, btw.

[@MagmaMKII]

Waiting for the episodes on SNK

[@Dgero]

It’s insane mustard was eventually able to get a semblance of his idea of the story spanning around mediums…. IN A BATTLE ROYALE SIDEMODE OF AN ABANDONED PVE ZOMBIE GAME. STARRING DWAYNE THE FUCKING ROCK JOHNSON

[@nihilegojelly7747]

Imagine if we get a reference to Advent Rising in the Lore. I could see it as one of the realities that got decimated by The Last Reality

[@Dgero]

@@nihilegojelly7747 I had something in mind like that, I doubt mustard looks back fondly on this, but a part of me would find it plausible to go back and attempt to rewrite the wrongs of that series somehow

[@mtdeeley]

I bought this when it first came out. The bug I remember involved the final boss. Early in the game, you have to chose who to save: the hero’s brother or girlfriend. The one you disn’t comes back as a villain. But the character switched in the final cutscenes! You could start fighting a man, then end with an attack from a woman!

[@ethanisfancy]

“Orson Scott Card would go on to be a miserable homophobe” might be the best “where are they now” quote ever

[@joesmutz9287]

Orson Scott Card is not the person you want for dialog Plot, world, and characters yes, but not dialog

[@BigEOT3]

That Enders Game movie sucked by the way. Good cast, but just a chore to watch.