GT4, GT3, GT3 RS, or Turbo? | E2 - The 911 Turbo

[@thecarboncowboy]

The Turbo or Turbo S is the daily driver, the GT3 or GT3RS is the dedicated sports or track car. That's the dream scenario.

[@eagle___empire3175]

Turbo S is about 45K more why would that one be the daily driver?

[@Speednote10]

EAGLE___EMPIRE Because the Turbo is much better daily as it's more practical and comfortable, it's got nothing to do with price. Why does it matter if it costs more anyway?

[@mrc2662]

FareedGhulam Akbar while there’s a decent argument that the GT3 RS is a supercar, the Turbo/S and GT3 are unquestionably sports cars. And I say that as a Turbo S owner. It’s absolutely sensational but it’s not a ‘supercar’. It’s my daily driver - and the RS would never (sensibly) be that.

[@mrc2662]

EAGLE___EMPIRE It’s my daily driver. Why shouldn’t it be?

[@christianpratt9728]

Mr C A car that does 0-60 in under 3 seconds and tracks the Nurburgring faster than the majority of all super/sports car. I’d say that’s a supercar

[@evanescent0311]

Lucky to get all those cars together to compare these! I’m going to Porsche Experience Center LA so I can compare the GTS, GT3 and Turbo bc I really don’t know which I want. The new GT4 will be awesome but Im almost exactly your size and I think I’ll appreciate the extra room. The drama of the GT3 is incredible which is what I love. I traded a boxster 718S for a camaro SS 1LE for the drama and I honestly haven’t been disappointed. pushes me towards a GT3. Thanks for the videos!

[@kwashb]

You make the best videos. I never miss one. I am obsessed with detailing as well. Thanks for the videos.

[@DriveMango]

Loving this series bro! I've driven those mountains many times. I'm currently an F-TYPE owner but looking to get into a GT4 or 997 GT3. I'm hoping the introduction of the 2018 GT3 softens the market a bit. Anyways, you're the man!

[@theyorganics]

I have been driving my 991.1 Turbo convertible for almost 10 months. Everyday I am loving it more. I strongly recommend 911 Turbo or Turbo S for daily.

[@SteveC-Shaman]

Same. I've been dailying my 991.2 TTS all summer. Great car. Drive to work, drive to the track and lap, drive home... lol

[@theyorganics]

Steve C haha true, I quit to check for how many miles I did, it kills my motivation :)

[@adamgoodman3422]

Finally an OCD comparison of the GT3 to turbo! I have owned both and you hit every key difference and ideal owner scenario in your review. Good job!

[@TopSecretVid]

The Turbo is more of a daily/all year car... Just like the Nissan GT-R... those beasts have multiple personalities depending on the how hard you hammer the throttle..

[@chrissorial2957]

The way I see this ending is Matt buying one of each haha.

[@ThomasPowersYouTube]

I love that Matt prefers pure-bred, track-focused cars. Still, Id love to see him launch the Turbo S. It freakin' pulls the skin off your face.

[@goons123flofy]

We know you ain't faking your power orgasms, unlike some car reviewers. (Looking at subaruwrx fax)

[@oDiProductions]

I daily a 997 Turbo but I'd take a GT3RS :-)

[@davidthegreat4526]

Can't Wait till you get the S2000 CR on the same roads and do a review.

[@MikeFigueira]

Nice car, and with 150 lb ft more torque than a GT3 I figured it would feel faster down low. It is amazing how many variants the 911 comes in. No other sports car has so many levels of performance, style and drivability. From an everyday car to a straight race car and everything in between. It's cool to watch you trip out on other peoples cars.

[@SloanZurnToto]

Sounds more like a vacuum compared to the GT4. Doesn't matter what exhaust you put on it, the turbo's kill the sound. That's the beauty of the GT4, you can drive it legally and still have the full on emotional experience. With the turbo you need to go well over legal speed limit to enjoy it.

[@thesolojourney8955]

Goal is to get a regular new 911 Carrera Yes the S, GTS, Turbo, Turbo S, GT3 and GT3RS is nice and of course the legendary 918 or Carrera GT is crazy but I’ll be happy enough to afford a regular base 911 for $100k

[@TheManicorn69]

Matt....I am not seeing how the GT350 and the S2000 are going to survive if you keep driving these Porsche variants LOL

[@ObsessedGarage]

You are on to me.

[@vidarg75]

Good to see some good laughs from you! Not that I don't like your monotone talk, it's so soothing.

[@neill9614]

Great stuff as always Matt! Interesting to note that you didn't mention the 4WD characteristics especially when it's often argued that the RWD versions provide the 'purer' driving experience and more so coming from the GT4 and your GT3. As a C4S owner I find the experience 'pure' enough ;)

[@15284750]

Great series of episodes! I thoroughly enjoy it.

[@chrisviducich2062]

Matt you legit seem happy as a kid in a candy store driving these cars. Lol and I see those retro 12's in the backseat too!

[@ObsessedGarage]

Wait until you see the RS video.

[@villejuntunen5851]

Subscribed. Enjoyed watching this. Thanks for making.

[@abiazis1]

I traded a GT3 for a TTS because of the rush of speed and the sport plus mode gives nice sound...it surprised me too on how good it was and can be a beast on the track.......

[@mitchgetson1936]

Another great video, Matt. As you have uploaded a video on how you would spec a 991.2 GT3 a few months ago, would you be interested in the Touring Package that Porsche announced recently? I feel that a 991.2 GT3 with this package would be the perfect spec for you - what are your thoughts on it?

[@ObsessedGarage]

I love it, but I would only do that if I had something like an RS in the garage already.

[@mitchgetson1936]

That makes sense, thanks for the reply. Staying tuned for more crazy.

[@pcarfan1676]

That torque is where it's at Matt! This is why I personally love the turbocharged 911's and prefer them to the GT series cars. My main criticism is the turbos really need an aftermarket exhaust as you really only hear the turbo whoosh when they're stock

[@adamgoodman3422]

PcarFan16 it's awesome with the exhaust but the gt3 is just an event. I owned the turbo s before going for a gt3.

[@mrc2662]

@@adamgoodman3422 I’m thinking of trading my Turbo S for a GT3 RS ...how was it for you?

[@adamgoodman3422]

@@mrc2662 I would own an RS but not a turbo S unless a daily driver. Gt3rs would be a masterpiece in a world of electric fast vehicles

[@Hanzthelord]

My friend put a tune and exhaust on his 991.1 turbo (500HP stock) and it had 680HP.

[@Adriansitos623]

It looks like your car throws you back into your seat and keeps you there and the turbo acts as expected by giving you more top end. I personally like your car better unless you are really at the top of your rpm range more. Perfect car for us here in AZ with long straight roads, it doesn't seem like you have that in Florida but i have never been. I want to go drive one now though so Thank You?😂 Hope you and your family are all doing great, -Stay Blessed

[@sagecleveland3953]

Glad I found your channel I love seeing these videos

[@ObsessedGarage]

Thanks man.

[@jmorrison146]

The Turbo (non S) with steel brakes and 5-lug wheels is the ideal 911. Everyday supercar, all-weather, comfy, practical. You can keep the center-locks and ceramic brakes.

[@ObsessedGarage]

And sounds like a vacuum cleaner…

[@harlemkiid149]

Great series of reviewing the Porsche GT cars, personally I don't like comparing cars with different transmissions. Would've preferred you use 997 Gt3/RS and or 997 Turbo or 991 Carrera GTS since they all have manual options. 991 Carrera GTS would be my choice, really hard to beat the joy of a manual,turbo and rwd.. Maybe you could compare 997 Gt2 vs 991 Carrera GTS

[@mortenberg2897]

Absolutely fantastic roads! And a verynice video 👍🙂

[@Capp2015]

Really really like that hoodie Matt.

[@roryallanson2668]

Nice video keep up the good work

[@mortenberg2897]

I miss roads like that when driving my Cayman S

[@SteveC-Shaman]

Actually I just realised that this might be the Turbo that I and my buddy ripped past and raced his buddies in GT3s down the US 129. On superbikes (1199 and RSV4) White 991.1 with rear wiper, same area, same rough time. :)

[@mrc2662]

These roads are sensational!

[@abiazis1]

Great review.....love to see Turbo S review with 580...and 516 and 20 second 553 extra boost....

[@Audittr2108]

The guy at the ends asks of a 500+ BHP 911 Turbo "Is it boring?" 😄

[@SteveC-Shaman]

Try a 991.2 Turbo S. Yes the 991.1 Turbo is a great car and super solid. The 991.2 TTS is another animal... a little less lag and no boost under 2200 rpm (991.1 starts boost at 1850) but the PDK solves that for you. The car just effs off every time you get a bit of throttle on it. No detectable lag at all in Sport+ mode. The 991.2 has many improvements and sound is one, it's a bit more in the cabin - definitely a windows-up car just like the one you drove, though. 555lb/ft of torque has to be felt to be understood, the car just goes effortlessly fast everywhere and still surprises you when you give it full throttle. For me, the 991.2 S is a big step up.

[@choongification]

i like the turbos sound, i think older generations are more concerned with natural aspiration, but growing up with racing games and sci-fi shit, i prefer that turbo and "woosh" as you call it, but im in the minority

[@ShunShiga]

This is an amazing series!! 👍

[@petersonndegwa1681]

I've just subscribed I love the content

[@Gregory-in7pz]

Thank you. I have ordered a 911 GTS to pick up in Stuttgart next September. I would appreciate you opinion on two choices: 1. 2 wheel or 4 wheel drive: 2. PDCC with either 10mm lower or 20mm lower suspension

[@mnemonicabyss]

Honestly, Just go whipple your GT350 and wait for the GT5. You had the most fun in the GT4, but it's too similar to your GT3, wait for the next generation. I could be completely wrong, that's just what it seemed watching your reactions.

[@edwinremudaro7953]

Great toys! Each have slightly different driving dynamics.

[@esk1020]

Matt - Great videos! I'm not sure if you have shared already, but what are you using to get outside video. I am interested in shooting some video of my rides and wasn't sure if a regular GoPro on a GoPro suction mount would be the best option. I would hate for it to fly off at high speeds. Any help is appreciated!

[@ObsessedGarage]

This was GoPro Hero 4 Session on GoPro suction mount.

[@esk1020]

Obsessed Garage Thanks! I am taking my Aston Martin V8 Vantage S on a fun drive and wasn’t sure if the camera would fly off at “the speed limit” and cause damage. Excited to see your GT3RS videos!

[@dave3952]

Bigger turbo and cup2's! 👍🏽

[@davidpepiton1187]

Needs full exhaust, bigger turbos and A7s.

[@kevinbodman1011]

I am like u I don't want to drive something better than what I have.Haha proud of u.Cool channel

[@ObsessedGarage]

Thanks Kevin!

[@choongification]

the only people qualified to talk about cars are racing drivers, but your opinion is as valid as anybodies so you dont need to say you dont really know what you're talking about (leave that to the jackasses in the comments), as long as you convey what you feel well, its going to be accurate. good job

[@daltonv5206]

Turbo S time!

[@x3dominator28]

I'm shocked there isn't a cop on every corner like the dragon. That is a nice stretch of road!

[@ObsessedGarage]

The dragon is more heavily policed, but they are pretty lenient in most areas of the mountains. Without the cars and bikes, tourism would suffer.

[@goons123flofy]

How does the turbo compare to the 991.2 s ( or gts)? Big turbo vs the non "turbo" turbo.

[@jmahtab]

Hey Matt, how would you compare the torque delivery and traction in this compared to the C7 Corvette Z06 that you recently reviewed/drove?

[@ObsessedGarage]

Traction on there rear engine cars is insane. The C7, being normal front engined, can't compare in traction.

[@jmahtab]

Obsessed Garage thanks for the reply. What about torque delivery?

[@kevinbodman1011]

You should feel what a 2,600 pound 930 feels like with 500 hp and 450 pnds of torque.CRAZY.Haha

[@nerdglider]

You really should not have done the gt4 first now I'm gonna compare everything to that exhaust

[@thomasbailey4139]

Always loved a turbo

[@fresmy]

Hi Matt, You know I absolutely love your channel, been following you since the beginning. But I have to correct you on this one. This is clearly a 991 Turbo, not a 991.2, therefore it has "only" 520hp, not 540 as you keep on saying in the video. You would probably be very surprised on how fast these turbos are off the line. A GT3 wouldn't even see where it went. A "good" driver would also comfortably beat the GT3 on the track with the Turbo. These are after all the top of the line of 911's. Turbo S and GT3 RS are sort of equals on track, but the fun level in the RS is considerably higher... Then there is the monster GT2 RS which in a way is a combination of those two...

[@DOCRUZ85]

Matt can you do this review again with the 991.2 turbo S or any other 99.2 that show up at the smokies this year?

[@southbeach09]

The Turbo is all you need if you're not tracking but I would still go for the GT3RS because it will hold it's value, the Turbo won't.

[@Nick305720520]

Ive Always wondered why Porsche offers a turbo and turbo "S" in the lineup?

[@KiranPatel-fk1pg]

So which cars are leaving your stable?

[@heathj7794]

I think i like the GT4 better for the exhaust alone lol

[@ObsessedGarage]

Yep...

[@OKF_Max]

How does the 991.1 Turbo compare to the 991.2 Carrera S you drove a couple of months ago?

[@ObsessedGarage]

It is in a completely different class of power and handling.

[@mattn5160]

Where is this recorded? The Cayman wants to go on a road trip!

[@ObsessedGarage]

Cherohala Skyway right outside of Robinsville, NC

[@MemoryLaneCinema]

shoes in the backseat makes my skin crawl

[@jmorrison146]

You do know that the Turbo is AWD, right? You give up a little crispness in the front end but gain all-weather capability.

[@jlo6388]

911 turbos will make you realize what the back of your eye sockets feel like.

[@ShakaLakaMTB]

Current conclusion of E1 & E2: GT4 > 911 Turbo

[@Ymtao231177]

Hi it's a totally different Beast between Turbo GT3RS

[@ObsessedGarage]

Yep...

[@cafe88racer53]

id say wait for the gt2rs lol best of both worlds

[@LeshVAuto]

Yeah the turbocharged cars like the 911 Turbo will give you the extra boost, especially from the Flat 6 from the 911. Turbos with a V8, like the GL550 I have, got a completely different feel. I am more of a N/A and Supercharger type of person.

[@em1tuning797]

It's the RS that I want to see. All great cars though.

[@ObsessedGarage]

Next up...

[@quattrings8240]

Will you test out the Turbo S aswel ? :-) there is a difference (i don't own one , but i've driven a lot of porsche's at work) and i would be doubting a GT3 RS/Turbo S :-) GT3RS has more fun, but the Turbo S is just amazing

[@mrc2662]

I have a Turbo S and am aching to switch into the RS tbh

[@red_guapo3159]

Nice 12s

[@daltonv5206]

I think the turbo S has larger turbos too, so more potential for tuning

[@henryd8039]

the 991.2 turbo vs turbo s has larger turbos among other things. The 991.1 turbo vs turbo s is just a software and aesthetics package

[@ObsessedGarage]

Bingo

[@SteveC-Shaman]

The 991.2 tunes are finally starting to come out. Would you believe 170hp more, with upgraded intercoolers, or 220hp more with meth? Who knows what the 71mm replacement turbos will do for this engine... :o

[@alphonsevallery]

dem J's though

[@Gregory-in7pz]

Hi Matt, did you notice that it was 4 wheel drive.

[@ObsessedGarage]

Not really. Porsche does such a great job at that.

[@terrysheehan7481]

Am I the only one out here who cares less about these cars but would love a report about how he made out with The hurricane?

[@RAJohnson713]

What road is that?

[@ObsessedGarage]

Cherohala Skyway

[@kevinbodman1011]

Subscribed btw

[@ObsessedGarage]

Nice!

[@DEFC0N4]

911 turbo s

[@dshawn4913]

Wat roads are he on

[@ObsessedGarage]

This is called the Cherohala Skyway in North Carolina. It is highway 143.

[@bigfoot286]

GT2RS?

[@moneyparhar]

Matt is grandma that dont drive 40 mph in left lane

[@mgdotto1]

Where are you? I am sorry if someone asked this already.

[@ObsessedGarage]

Cherohala Skyway in North Carolina Mountains

[@mgdotto1]

Thank you, not many mountains here in Florida

[@gianluca281]

hi,compared to gt4 this is mute.

[@bbgt6299]

leave the PDK do it's Magic - to much Manual fiddling in yr videos

[@ObsessedGarage]

I'm guessing you've never driven these cars.

[@bbgt6299]

well fortuntely I own a 997 RS , 991 GT3 and a GT4 - and have driven my boss's 991RS - so I have "Little" experience with the PDK-S - you should go on a track with yr GT3 and realize that the PDK can do it better !

[@bbgt6299]

or you discover the Sport button on yr GT3 - cheers !

[@mwar99]

Dude - back road driving - use the paddles. Matt was doing it right for where he was driving. Track leave in PDK Sport.