🔴 Leica Visoflex - Why you need an EVF for your Leica M camera! (Olympus VF-2 on Leica M240)

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

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[@korbynpaxton410]

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[@korbynpaxton410]

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[@alanplatt888]

Olympus VF-2 has arrived. Wow what a difference to have a more complete Leica M240 experience. Spot on Video

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Alan, congrats! Yes it makes the M240 much more versatile :)

[@brklynjosh]

Great video (as always!) One more plus for the EVF: since it’s articulated, it allows you to take photos at angles the optical finder doesn’t allow. I use this especially for 21mm and 15mm landscape shots to get close to objects in the foreground.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thank you Josh. Ah yes great point! Thanks for mentioning. Yes looking forward to using the 15mm and 21mm at 0.5m .. well I will use the 15mm LTM version even closer! :)

[@alanplatt888]

I have just received my new "used" M240, a Voigtlander 75mm F1.8 heliar classic, a Voigtlander 35mm F1.2 Nokton and I have an Olympus VF-2 coming. Your video's are compelling and addictive viewing. ;-)

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Wow Alan, nice setup there! That combination will keep you smiling :) Thanks for feedback.

[@zoltankaparthy9095]

You're killing me buddy. I went out and bought an M240 after your encouragement. And I can use the three lenses for the M8.2 on it. You encouraged me on that, too. I was shopping for an f/2 50mm when I remembered the f/1.4 50mm SMC Pentax. With the Olympus VF2 I can focus now. I may have to stop watching you. Stop me before I shop again! LMAO I do enjoy your straightforward presentations based on your experience in the field. So thanks for your help. And I have now sated my Leica frenzy.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Zoltan Kaparthy haha thanks and congrats on your new gear! Yes the EVF has a lot of great uses 👌🏻😊

[@MartynEdwards-c3x]

Brilliant again Matt. Just got my first M camera (M10R) with the Voigtlander 21mm f3.5 and 50mm f2 APO. I knew that I would need a viewfinder for the 21mm and this video has helped me justify my purchase of a Visoflex 2 (great deal off eBay!). Also on the list is an F mount - M mount adapter as I have a 40 mm f2 Ultron SL II and a lovely Nikon 85mm f1.8 which I can re-use. Thanks again 👍

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Great stuff, I'm a big fan of those Voigtlander lenses! See the latest video, you'll spot that lens. The Visoflex is good for these lenses. Enjoy!

[@jllanesphoto]

I have two Leicas M240s, and have both evf, Olympus and Leica. Both work great. No difference as you said. Great video as always.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Hi Jerry, great to hear from you and thanks for sharing your experience on this, with you owning both. Thanks for confirming that they have little difference. You may like the SL if you use EVF. I've since bought the SL too and love it! (or CL!) :)

[@jllanesphoto]

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom I am considering it. I will use it mostly with M lenses. Thanks for your response. Love your videos.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

@@jllanesphoto thanks Jerry! I did use this a lot on my M240 until I got the SL. 👍🏻

[@robtspecht]

I'm using the Leica VisoFlex EVF on a M10-P. I find it very useful to use during strong daylight as opposed to the rear LV viewfinder. It also helps with focusing my APO 75mm Cron and Macro-Elmar M90mm. Only downside is price and it uses the battery. Nice to have choices!

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

robtspecht thanks Rob! Yes sadly the M10 Visoflex is more current so the price reflects that. I’ve never really used the LCD much before so this is all new to me. Agreed an EVF is perfect for the lenses you mention.

[@AaronAnalog1]

Thanks for making this video, very helpful! I’m on the hunt for one now 😎

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Cheers Aaron, try eBay, I got mine used at a good price. (They are a bit slow but transform the camera)

[@zoltankaparthy9095]

Got the M240, got the VF2 and you are right, the VF2 is very useful, especially with my Pentax 50mm f/1.4 Super Takumar SMC.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks it open the world to so many great lenses! L)

[@richardpatterson5340]

Thanks for the inside info. Works perfect on my M 240.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Richard, no problem!

[@simonbailleul8665]

j'ai acheté un EVF2 LEICA d'occasion 150€ pour mon M-P 240 en prévision de l'achat d'un 21 ... 👍👍👍 et effectivement je l'utilise avec un super angulon 4/21R et c'est parfait ... merci pour vos vidéo

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Great! No problem

[@hacks9099]

I appreciate your candor!

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks!

[@ha711265]

hi, does the Nikon lenses with adapter couple with the rangefinder on the Leica camera?

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Only Nikon RF lenses via correct adapter. Normal Nikon F SLR lenses no.

[@MB-or8js]

That's exactly the Olympus one I bought used for my M-E 240. Works well. Just keep in mind that both EVFs from Leica and Olympus leave a few mm gap between electronic foot and camera insert which is described online as normal.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Martin, great info as always! Yes I did see that so thanks for confirming.

[@arnavbose5665]

Very informative and nicely explained. Thank you, sir.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Arnav! More new videos coming soon.

[@villagranvicent]

Just saw your excellent video... I was in the process of buying a Q-P, but I think an M240 with the EVF is a much more fun and versatile proposition; I already have a couple of Nikkor manual lenses (28 and 50) that I could use with it.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Hey Ricardo, thanks! Yes it makes the M240 great as you can use any lens. I have MF Nikkors too so I can relate! :)

[@baharam98]

Hi, can you please make a video on using magnifier on the optical view finder of M series camera? Thank you

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

HI, I have already, search you will see it. If not see MrLeica.com blog and the Leica section for the video listing.

[@baharam98]

Thanks Matt! On my way to watch...@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom

[@rbq9507]

Hello Matt Which adaptor do You use for Nikon lenses in your M240? ThanK You so much 🙏🏻

[@rbq9507]

Sorry Matt, i saw your answer to another colleague. ThanK You

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Hi it’s a cheap adapter from eBay, it’s Nikon F to screw mount (LTM/M39) then I use second adapter, the usual LTM-M

[@GeorgiosKalaydjian]

Dear Matt, I have the Olympus version of the EVF, and have both 50mm Summilux and 28 Elmarit, do you think I need the viewfinder magnifier? If so do you have any idea about the non Leica brand (light lens lab) if it’s any good? Thank you in advance Matt.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

LLL diopter is great for 50mm and longer. See link below any recent video or on the blog. For 28mm you need to remove it to see framelines. Yes better than EVF for true RF experience and smaller setup/ battery lasts longer.

[@danielbdbe]

hello Matt , i can see that you are using a viewfinder magnifier on the camera . What magnifier power is it ? what is the effect in the viewfinder .? I am myopic , so with my glasse I can not see well the 35mm frame and worst for the 28mm frame lines in M10 . Does this magnifier help to see the full 28mm or 35mm frane line or is it the opposite ? thanks . BR daniel

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Hi, yes see the video on the 1.4x magnifier I use. No it's designed for 50mm and longer. For 28/35 you are better to use without. You can't miss with 28mm - just assume the full VF area is 28mm if you can't see the lines.

[@daviehudson4270]

I've got the Visoflex on my Leica T and it transforms it

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Davie, ah yes I bet on the T! Nice. I love my CL

[@hansalbers9894]

Just ordered one.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Congrats!

[@xavierfumat7567]

will this EVF work on my M8? Thanks Matt!

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

No, you can’t use any EVF on M8/M9

[@michaelcampbell4503]

Great review Matt. Good tip on how using the EVF and non Leica lenses with a lens adapter helps you overcome the 0.7m minimum focusing distance of the Leica lenses on an M camera, allowing you to preserve the unique Leica M look of images while creating images that are a little different. I must now search for adapters to use my Nikon AIS lenses and Pentax K lenses on my M246 Mono and M10P..

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Michael Campbell thanks yes just check eBay on the link provided, you can get adapters pretty cheap. Some of the old AI/AIS lenses offer excellent image quality and value. I have a few. :)

[@АндрейЕмельянов-щ4щ]

Парень ты просто указал мне путь куда двигаться дальше. Это супер. Хочу себе такой же видоискатель. 👍🏻

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

No problem! I was happy to discover it too!

[@huangjiacong2931]

Hi this VF-2 can using m9 monochrome?thank you

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

No no. You can’t use any EVF on M8/M9, too old.

[@AyoRazo]

Great great review as always. Will this work on m8?

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks, no you can’t fit any EVF to M8 or M9.

[@thomashilmersen711]

I just got an Olympus VF-2, second hand. However, it does not seem to work with my M246. The EVF screen is completely white.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Eek sorry to hear that Thomas, i've never tried the M246 but if it has the mount under the hotshoe to power the EVF I would expect it to work.

[@justinschug2645]

Another great way to get closer focus is using diopters. I just picked up a set for my 43mm threaded Summicron 28mm and I’m very impressed with the results

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Justin, I have a close focus adapter for the CL which gives the same result. I can't get an M-M helicoid as it only gives macro and I want for portraits. Close focus filter is a nice idea.

[@ronaldsand3000]

Matt Great review for a very handy accessory Especially useful for lenses where the viewfinder frame lines are not correct The only little issue I have is that this accessory’s resolution is very poor by today’s expectations All the very best

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Ronald, yes I think these EVF offer a lot considering their price tag.

[@ronaldsand3000]

Matt Osborne Hi there I’ll be joining up next week Have a great weekend Regards Ron

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

@@ronaldsand3000 Thanks Ron, have a great weekend too!. Matt

[@neilharbinson387]

Hi Matt, Great video as always. I have a Leica M-E 240 and a collection of Leica lenses with different focal lengths. I like to use the Cokin P filter system (which I used to use very frequently before I switched from Nikon to Leica) but it concerns me that when I have the Cokin apparatus attached to the end of the Leica lens I won’t be able to use the viewfinder in the M-E 240 because the filter holder will be in the way and will obstruct my view. I expect by using the EVF I would be able to overcome this problem, given that the view through the EVF is effectively through the lens rather like it is with a DSLR. Would you agree?

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Hi Neil, thanks! Yes agreed, filters can be less ideal on RF cameras. Yes the EVF gives you through the lens so that will work no problem.

[@Phil.Austin]

I understand these can't be used on the M9 but is there an adjustable external viewfinder I can fit on the M9 flash shoe?

[@Phil.Austin]

By adjustable, I mean 0-90° . Many thanks

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

If you just want a non-electronic "waist level finder" for the hotshoe you can look on eBay and look for a finder to fit any rangefinder camera. There is no electronic version.

[@Phil.Austin]

@Matt Osborne that's exactly what I want Matt. Many thanks. Is there any you recommend. That info is much appreciated, cheers

[@allenLin0420]

Dear Matt, I have a question that does the Olympus VF-4 compatible with my Leica M240? Or the only solution for M240 is the VF-2?? THANKS.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Hi check on forums via google but I think only vf-2 from memory. (If it’s the m10 one then no I think)

[@Visions_in_Toyko]

Hi, quick question do you know if this will work on the m-10r / m-10 mono? Or would the vf-4 work ? Thanks

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Hello no you need the M10 later version. This is the older one and won’t fit.

[@darkmatterdharma617]

Would this work on the Leica T?

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Hi, no you need the "020" Visoflex version

[@ugurciv]

Will the leica m240 work with the olympus fl-lm2?

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

I'm not sure of the unit you mean but if it looks like mine then yes (see tonight's video you'll see it again)

[@sabsgaffar]

Thanks Matt. Does this EVF work on a M8? Secondly, would this help in working around the Frame lines - ie. no need for worrying about tramlines for different lenses on a M8? (including using wider or longer lenses). Thanks for an excellent channel.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Hello yes it's great with wide or long lenses especially BUT no it only works on the M240 (M10 has different EVF), M8, M9 don't have LiveView so no EVF option, sorry.

[@sabsgaffar]

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Thank you for the prompt reply.

[@davidselby976]

Very useful review/ video

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks David!

[@sailingandpaintingtheworld538]

Very informative and helpful, thanks for your awesome advice!

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

rich phela thank you Rich! :)

[@nikrawal]

Hi MAtt, what viewfinder do you recommend for M10 ?

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Hello you need the M10 evf called the ‘visoflex’

[@citysick]

How do you see the meter through the EVF? I'm used to the red dot and arrows.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

I’ve always shot by eye, before the EVF, so I guessed the expose, shoot adjust. From memory with the EVF when you half press the shutter it displays the actual visual exposure and then you can adjust as needed.

[@RobMacKillop1]

Would the VF-2 fit and work on the Leica TL2?

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Hi Rob, sadly no. As I understand it the TL2 uses the Visoflex the same as the M10.

[@RobMacKillop1]

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Ah, thanks, Matt. There is no cheaper alternative then. Too bad. Many thanks for your quick response. Appreciated!

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

@@RobMacKillop1 Yes sorry Rob! Often the case with Leica stuff sadly!

[@taa19936]

hi Matt, Thanks for your video, its hard to find information about EVF. would the Olympus EV-2 work in Leica X typ 113? Thank you

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Hello, i'm not familiar with the Leica X typ 113 but (1) I think no / never seen it written (2) it needs a port on the back of the camera under the hotshoe to work.

[@taa19936]

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom thanks for the advice, instead should I get an OVF finder for better experience?

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

@@taa19936 does your camera not have built in diopter?

[@taa19936]

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom there’s just a LCD screen there without view finder

[@jimbob119874]

Thank you very much, I'm looking for one now.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks James, I’ve used mine much more than planned ever since!

[@Odins.Valhall]

Hi Matt, I am considering getting an EVF 2 as I also want to shoot with the Biotar or Primoplan. Direct Live View on the M240 is not so optimal for me, do you think it is better because, among other things, focus peaking is also easier with the EVF. Lg Anderl

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

M240 LV limits the speed of the EVF too but yes the EVF is better for 50mm and longer. I used the setup for many years.

[@wattsrc1]

Interesting video thanks, I’ve been wondering about picking up one for my 240. I really like the idea of using it with non Leica lenses. Interesting to hear your views on the 1.4 magnifier.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Richard Watts thanks Rich, as a guy that waited 5yrs before buying I would highly recommend you get one! :) I love it now and so many options with affordable characterful lenses. The options are limitless! :) it’s like - camera acting as 2 cameras. Yes 1.4 still amazing for RF lenses. Evf is slow.

[@katumus]

The VF-2 was released in 2009, together with their second m4/3 body E-P2. You got two options as eye-level viewfinder (the rear display is a waist level viewfinder, so "viewfinder" can mean either one as well) and VF-1 was just a optical one meant for 17 mm f/2.8 lens that was the kit lens for E-P1 and E-P2. The E-P2 was released 3 months after the E-P1 because there was a bug in the camera that couldn't be fixed with the firmware update, so they put E-P2 out ASAP and only difference was that one bug was eliminated AND the AP2 (Accessory Port 2) was added behind the hot shoe. The AP2 was in use up to the PEN-F that was first model from Olympus where they eliminated the AP2. The only difference between Olympus and Leica versions is the brand and then the Leica has a straightly angled front, where Olympus has slight curve. And then is the price, Olympus was about $250 where Leica was $550.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Sorry I missed this. Thanks for the info!

[@tpminus6]

Will the Olympus VF-2 work on the M246 Monochrom? Thanks Matt.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Yes it should be fine. Only not the M8, M9, M10

[@tpminus6]

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom thanks Matt

[@brianmiller921]

Hi there. I just ordered an M240 but am struggling to find an extra battery. Any suggestions?

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Hmm, eBay perhaps or used Leica Dealers.

[@alanward4551]

would the optical view finder work with a Carl Zeiss 50mm , thanks

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Hi Alan, yes of course. It works for EVERY lens, any make, RF coupled or not (like mirrorless camera)

[@alanward4551]

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom thanks Matt, i got a little confused at about 17:34 when you mentioned 3rd party lenses

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

@@alanward4551 sorry for the confusion. If you have any more questions just let me know.

[@alekseykasatkin4100]

Hi Matt! Very usefull review! Many thanks! Yet, one question: will Leica EVF (I already have one) work accurate on my Leica M10 with Voitlander Lenses?

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Yes the EVF works with all lenses so you could get the 35/1.2 for example. See my videos for the full review of the Voigtlander 35/1.2 for more example images / full details.

[@leespeakman296]

Matt does the fresh rate suffer when zooming in? Seems to happen in live view on my M10. Refresh rate is fine when not zoomed.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Hi Lee, I only use it zoomed in so i'm not sure. It is slow for sure vs RF focusing but a nice to have for playing with different lenses.

[@62smarty]

What adapter do you use for the Nikon lens?

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Nikon-M39 + M39-Leica M (You can see it on some of the Patreon BTS videos I think)

[@TheCrankinguru]

I found it really hart to listen to you man, I am sorry about the feedback.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks, no I appreciate your feedback. This video is maybe a few years old now so hopefully I continue to improve with each video. (It was a steep learning curve on the talking to camera front).

[@irfanomer5331]

Can we use Olympus EVF-4 on Lica M240?

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

It needs to have connecter like the one in this video. I’ve not heard people use EVF4

[@toulcaz31]

Unless I missed it, you didn’t mention the resolution of the VF and how it compares to the SL. I think few benefits are already available with the live mode on the screen.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Nico Cazals thanks Nico, yes sorry I didn’t find that info when reading so didn’t mention it. I would like to think the SL EVF is much better but from memory of using both they both ‘work’ as needed. Yes I’ve never been an EVF shooter type.

[@toulcaz31]

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom according to B&H specs it's 1.4M for the VF-2 vs 4.4m dots for the Leica SL finder

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

@@toulcaz31 Thanks Nico, quite a difference then. These EVF are not suitable for all photography shooting but they work great for when needed. The 1.4M gives me enough resolution to use it so that's fine for me. (I noticed the SL2 was a big jump up from memory vs the SL when physically using both cameras). (I was using the VF-2 along side my CL and I didn't notice the VF-2 looking bad, maybe just more vintage perhaps looking back but that is quite nice when using old lenses too and in B&W mode :)

[@toulcaz31]

Matt Osborne it seems comparable to an xpro1. It does the job 🙂

[@Paullebbon]

Hi Matt, does the EVF work on the Leica T?

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Hi Paul, no you need the newer Visoflex version - this shows the difference - en.leica-camera.com/World-of-Leica/Leica-News/Global/2015/ACCESSORIES-Leica-Visoflex-EVF-2

[@Paullebbon]

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Thanks Matt. I see now that the one you have has a second connector and the one for my camera has just the hot shoe mount. Thanks again.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Paul lebbon 👍🏻

[@belgiboing]

For me using the EVF on the M240 meters the light better in a variety of difficult lighting situations. It’s essentially same as the ‘advanced’ metering mode on the camera. It does lag when pressing the shutter so it’s difficult to do action shots to freeze the subject in mid-air exactly at the point I want. The EVF drains the battery more. But is much better compared to the M10 when using the Visoflex. Only thing is that you can’t move the focus patch like the M10 does. So I use the M240 mostly for center oriented compositions or when using wide angle lenses like 21 and 15mm.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Ian, yes I just focus and recompose for my shots and interesting to hear. vs M10, thanks!

[@mrdasboot45]

A small correction I don’t think that the evt works on the M8 and M9 , my M9 doesn’t have the connector under the hotshoe.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Menno, yes correct, sorry I meant the various versions of the M (after the M8 and M9)(100% doesn't work on M8/M9 as I know those cameras). Thanks for pointing it out.

[@jeroenkommer6467]

Love the ef2 on my Leica with my voigtlander 35 1.2 to focus closer than 0.7m

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Hi yes! Killer combo! Will it not go down to 0.5m? My v2 lens does. (Sorry for late reply).

[@jeroenkommer6467]

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom I at this moment also got an super takumar 24mm 3.5 and the 50mm 1.4 with adapters with the evf it works great

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

@@jeroenkommer6467 ah nice, yes the EVF is great for this!

[@cherylatkins7600]

Great video. Thank you!

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Cheryl Atkins thank you Cheryl! :)

[@cherylatkins7600]

Matt Osborne You’re welcome Matt! I just got my first M, the M10-P and got the visoflex because I was told it would make the focus patch easier to see. Fingers crossed that’s true!

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

@@cherylatkins7600 Congrats on your M! I don't think what you say it true but i've not tried it. Why - the focus patch is in the RF not the EVF. To make the patch bigger you need the viewfinder magnifier (see my video but get the M10 version as a different diameter) (it's what I show at the end of the EVF video).

[@cherylatkins7600]

Matt Osborne Thanks Matt! I watched videos and reviews of it before I bought it and a few of them said it was great for seeing the patch. I guess I need to watch your video again. Drat!

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

@@cherylatkins7600 Don't worry it's probably just a play on words and what they said is also correct but meant differently to how I think of it. I think of the 'patch' as the Rf patch only. They might mean something else i've not thought of. (I don't know everything so fingers crossed all OK for you).

[@slickhatter9812]

Thanks matt ❤️

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Very useful but of kit. Happy to discover it myself!

[@slickhatter9812]

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom i accidentally at the leica store today and tested it out I didn’t like but actually I don’t need it but from what I experienced it is ver helpful but i only shoot 35 and 50 so I’m ok without it

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

@@slickhatter9812 yes 35 you don’t need and for most 50s you don’t if have good eyes. I use with mostly non native lenses currently.

[@chowow.211]

Tempting to get one!

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

You should, you wont lose much if sell it again but I think you will like the benefits it brings. Loving mine. I've done a short BTS video from today's photoshoot that i'll put on Patreon tomorrow showing my setup etc.

[@eugeneallen3106]

hello have Leica m8 camera cloud l used.

[@Bruciatodalsole]

Thanx for the explanations, I found very useful.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks, no problem!

[@eugeneallen3106]

Cloud used EVF view on Leica m8 camera

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Ah thanks for sharing.

[@joshuaeisenbeiser3733]

So an I understanding it Right? Is there also a evf for the Leica M9?

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

@@joshuaeisenbeiser3733 Hi no sadly it only works for cameras with LiveView so no the M8 or M9 models

[@RaymondLo84]

In short, use it if it's too wide or too long.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Raymond Lo yes or too fast! :) works well to critically focus fast 50s too!

[@LaughingStock_]

A fairly critical correction to the headline - this is for your DIGITAL Leica M. I doubt I'm alone in considering the Leica M range to be synonymous with Leica's original classic analogue models rather than the totally different world of Leica digital.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Martin Hugh Henley hi thanks for your thoughts. I use a lot of the film Leicas but because this unit is electronic I presumed people would know it was for digital. Sorry to cause confusion..yes sadly you can’t use it as like a digital VF aid for vintage Leica. I guess someone might design such a thing in the future.

[@brianpalmer6385]

Goes for $100 U.S. on FredMiranda

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Ah good find Brian! Yes if you shop around i'm sure there will be some great bargains, with them being old technology now. (The advantage of waiting 5yrs after their release ha) :)

[@powderedtoastman3093]

Please clear your throat or have a cup of tea of something

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks sorry I was sick I think

[@powderedtoastman3093]

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom In every video 🤣

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

@@powderedtoastman3093 haha oh that's just my normal voice then! :)

[@patckw]

Does this work on the SL2?

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

I'm sure you're joking but no. SL series camera finders are far better (I use SL too)

[@patckw]

trying to get used to not having a flip screen. It's quite difficult to do low angle shots.

[@salahuddinsidek9133]

Do Olympus VF-4 works with Leica m240?

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

I googled for you as haven’t used it. Google says no (since 2013 firmware update). Vf2 still works* (I use it)

[@salahuddinsidek9133]

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom yeah I didn’t see any info in forums too.