2024 Chinese Grand Prix Race Review | P1 Podcast

[@teddybeerlepel1]

Lance Stroll wrecks more Aston Martins than James Bond.

[@themarimo3324]

What an original comment

[@GryphLane]

​@@themarimo3324It's true though

[@dandavis5297]

Hahahaha

[@quintuscrinis]

Is it Aston Martins he wrecks or other cars around him?

[@soundscape26]

But with a fraction of the entertainment

[@DaveMcKeegan]

Stroll misunderstood the Aston designers when they said they wanted to get a closer look at RB's new floor ...

[@Paulo-py4mm]

Dave Triangles McKeegan

[@KeshavChugh]

😅😅😅😅

[@andrewwirth3228]

Does Stroll not have any pride??? I mean...how good can it feel to know you're only in F1 because of Daddy. You're taking up a seat dude....just go away.

[@barryalangroves8759]

This driver Lance is a dangerous driver

[@ryche.rising]

LMAO

[@walover165]

Something that a lot of people are missing is that Logan got two penalty points for that, meaning he's only four off a ban. He's closer to a race ban than Stroll, despite Stroll's actions being far more worthy of a ban!

[@walover165]

@@bbtodd Daniel's was correctly adjudged a racing incident. Albon was optimistic in the extreme and Daniel was watching Stroll (which, as Stroll proved in China, was a very sensible thing to be doing). Tsunoda's actions should have been a ban, yes. But VCARB were not going to take it to the stewards, much like the Alpines in Melbourne last year. Stroll is entirely at fault for the collision in Shanghai. Was there a concertina effect? Yes. But as Oscar put it: No-one else crashed. Stroll's onboard shows clearly that he wasn't even looking at the cars ahead, he was looking at the apex. And this isn't Stroll's first offence where he hasn't been paying attention to his surroundings.

[@thebateman761]

Imagine how serious Aston would be if they had Carlos or Yuki next to Alonso

[@trapeziumm]

Yeah I agree I think they will sign Yuki since Honda will join them

[@mtrps_]

@@trapeziumm good lord, yuki AND alonso is gonna be bonkers quick, more excited for 2026 !!

[@juicypanda677]

I’m thinking Yuki n Carlos goes somewhere else could be wrong though

[@Pricelessmile]

​@@trapeziummI hope they will, but I'm worried we're also going to have Stroll in that car until he retires

[@sloppynyuszi]

Honestly, Yuki is starting to be over rated. He isn’t racing peak Ricciardo. If Gasly stayed Yuki would still be rated lowly. I would go as far as saying a Stroll/Yuki swap is almost a sideways move. Yuki wouldn’t score considerably more if he replaced Stroll

[@KingofFray]

Lance Stroll: *HELLO MY NAME IS D U M F U K*

[@thepowerofwill2696]

The nerve

[@KiiaBite]

Put. Him. In. Jail.

[@LiftandCoa]

This clips need to be on youtube ASAP so twitter folk can lose their mind again. It will be glorious entertainment.

[@renealdonza165]

@@KiiaBite PUT! HIM! IN! JAYOOOOOOL!!!!

[@Ticklestein]

DISGUSTANG

[@mmogaddict]

Stroll ruined the races of both Riccardo and Piastri so that was certainly detrimental to the race. Who knows how the race might have gone if that hadn't occurred.

[@robertlee6338]

Riccardo would have finished last without an incident

[@DiscoStu65-sj6pu]

@@robertlee6338 how did you come up with that gem mate?

[@GregStonham]

Let's call it what it was: a racially motivated attack on Australians 😀

[@huh4206]

​@@robertlee6338he was up there in p9 with alonso like strategy. he would've ended in points

@@robertlee6338hahaha no way

[@reina.0_0]

The fact that Ferrari keep finishing together is together or nothing to another level

[@Tomekkplk]

Both have something to fight for this year

[@edumanga789]

That only happens when you got two really bad drivers or two very good ones that can maximize what the car can do... I think we can all agree that is the latter one. Their positions is all that the car could do

[@tjayk9127]

Probably the only team that are performing consistently. Looks like the Ferraris can’t turn for shit but they’re fast as hell in a straight. Redbull is consistent everywhere but Checo, McLaren is scattered in the pack, Aston has 1 driver, and Mercedes is crap.

[@theprim3ninja813]

​@@tjayk9127 Couldn't have said it any better

[@LarryFisherman742]

I feel like they’ve always been the best pairing in terms of consistency obviously Charles is a bit faster than Carlos but either on a good weekend can compete for p2 or the rare W

[@1024BenZ]

For Zhou's celebration, he's the first Chinese driver ever, and that's something that can only happen once, so I think all the theatrics and celebration for the fans is completely fine. I would equally support it for the next "first driver from x country".

[@Nekonaut_aka_Jebus]

Agreed, the participation award is actually valid in this case as it's a landmark moment.

[@Adam-fj9px]

It's not necessarily the crash that annoyed me, we're used to that now, it's the fact he refuses to take accountability for anything he does, almost like he's never been told no before

[@ltreanor99]

That's cause his daddy used money to wipe away all his problems when or if he got in trouble. Typical rich kid getting whatever he wants not on his own merit. Lance is the worst F1 driver I've ever seen.

[@JC-lu4se]

@@ltreanor99 I've seen worse. He's had some good races and shown bravery but overall he's not F1 level.

[@Jout8-re1ij]

@@ltreanor99 Are you new F1 fan, when you think his the worst driver. Even worse, than Mazepin who also got to F1, because of rich daddy. Stroll might have got to F1 without rich daddy, but his career could be driving for backmarker team like Haas few seasons and then be done, because his not fast enough.

[@Dirt-Diggler]

​@@ltreanor99 new to F1 I take it ?

[@ZombieDeMierda]

I'm starting to dislike him and Russell for not taking account for their own mistakes. Every time they crash is others one fault

[@MFitz12]

Alonso's save was even more remarkable in that in the space of 1.2 seconds he went off, got the car sideways, corrected it with a single move, never lifted AND activated his DRS.

[@frankhart2188]

I've seen him open the DRS and thought wow Fernando has balls and was not in the mood to let Hamilton get some breath.

[@iamanda211]

"no dad, racing in formula one is YOUR dream."

[@VinnieDayz]

Finally someone who sees it too, Lance is being forced to drive at Aston Martin and he doesnt want to be there. Look at his interviews, they are over before they started cause Lance shows zero interest in anything, on or off the track.

[@wilseph1]

OOF!

[@ChuyR.]

@@VinnieDayz I think he shows zero interest because he knows how hated he is... the kid stays off social media and marketing, i think Lance genuinely likes racing, the problem is that he peaked years ago maybe in F3 and his daddys money can only take him so far. I sponsor a kid in the local karting complex and there are lots of cheating and kart illegal modifications, rich kids get away with it most of the times. I am a 100% sure that Lance and Lawrence cheated their way up to F1.

[@MrNovember41]

Precisely! The question suggests Lawrence keeps Lance in the team because of sentiment but it has nothing to do with love or dedication. It's pure narcissism. He's forcing his own son to chase after a dream, that isn't his own, at the detriment of his reputation and confidence. Lawrence just wants a family legacy and the Stroll name on a winner's trophy. Guy's sick in the head and his son is an entitled brat with Daddy issues, sad facts.

[@louiskendagor3807]

@@MrNovember41 Dude !😐

[@amwajameen]

I don’t mind the crash. Mistakes happen. But the audacity to blame Danny Ric for that…MY GOD

[@ltreanor99]

Come on what's this comment.. Under a safety car something like that shouldn't have happened. Looking at the apex wasn't called for.

[@maxmustermann4141]

@@ltreanor99 what do you mean? you realize that even multiple wc made stupid mistakes? it shouldnt happen, but it does...

[@JC-lu4se]

@@ltreanor99 A lot of things shouldn't happen like Lewis crashing into Kimi exiting the pitlane. The issue was he was so quick to blame Danny.

[@KingofFray]

@@maxmustermann4141 yes but lance stroll in F1 IS a mistake to begin with. With 7 years in F1, he should at least minimilizing every mistakes, but yet he intensify it

[@Pfuetz4]

If he said that in the moment he was confused/not anticipating the brakes because he didn't see the McLaren in front of Danny - was in a blindspot, owned the mistake, moved on. No issue.

[@kingseirios4277]

about zhou getting his own special "tribute" after the race, i think for a country as big as china, many f1 fans don't understand that he is creating history for his own country in f1 history book. he is the first chinese f1 driver for goodness sake. it might be small but it deserve a celebration especially among his own people. yea for a traditional f1 country like the UK, germany, or italy, having a new f1 driver is not something worth to be celebrated, but for a non traditional f1 country like china, of course it deserve a celebration. not every year a chinese driver get a seat in f1. for comparison, as a footabll and f1 fan, i think the "zhou tribute" is like having luton town promoted to the premier league. yes they lost a lot of games but their time in the premier league is worth celebrating among their own fans.

[@rashmin312]

completely agree, thank you for this comment although i disagree with the luton town analogy as it might be more wrexham getting promoted to the prem since the big name big money investment gets to the apex of english football similar to the huge chinese economy having a driver participate at the pinnacle of motorsport. sorry for yapping

[@emmata98]

With the exception that with the population numbers a Chinese or Indian driver was/is just bound to happen.

[@soundscape26]

That was a great moment. Kudos to whoever thought of that standalone podium.

[@kingseirios4277]

@@emmata98 not exactly. The US, china, india and indonesia are the biggest countries by population. Yet it takes more than just population number to get an f1 driver, especially a good f1 driver

[@nathanakers45]

@@kingseirios4277 Exactly. I'd love to have Josef Newgarden or Colten Herta representing the US in the field. Alas, we're stuck with Logan...

[@ammarabdull]

What’s bazaar about Alonso near accident is how it looks natural for Alonso and you could see him playing with buttons right after the save like nothing happened and started challenging Hamilton in the next turn .. Man how cold blooded is he 😅🐐

[@vasco1610]

bazaar stuff is happening man, gotta be careful

[@valeriebumblebee7607]

I'm starting to wonder if it's Lance's dream or the dream of his father.

[@michaelwilkie35]

Truthfully it’s probably both, but the 1-2 punch of the weight of those expectations combined with a toxic “nothing he does will ever be good enough” fanbase makes me feel sorry for him. Not excusing his “brain fade” moments but the microscope he’s constantly under compared to other drivers would be difficult for most.

[@leedouglass4106]

​@@michaelwilkie35very well said, I feel exactly the same

[@henriquedaumas9934]

​@@michaelwilkie35rightfully so? Lol

[@gardenphoto]

Wonder not! It's ALL about daddy-Stroll's BIG-BUCKS!

[@JackPecker911]

@@michaelwilkie35 That's all true and good, but this is the highest level of motorsport, it's very easy to get into the territory should he be there if he keeps making rookie mistakes after so many years. He also shouldn't have an unlimited pass for being too slow or making mistakes, the best of the best should be driving these 20 cars. Handling that pressure is one of the qualities a driver at this level needs

[@d3al3rplays68]

About the Stroll and Alonso Penalty's.. This is ridicilious... 3 pts for Alonso during a race is harsh. 2 pts for stroll should at least be doubled... He did it under safety car.... the moment during a race which should be the safest part!!!

[@al_zaizal]

**Daddy Stroll enter the chat**

[@ehrlichgesagt863]

That ridiculous he didn't kill somebody. Alonso got overtaken and pushed sainz completely of on a place you can't overtake destroying his and sainz car. Stroll got catched in 5 people breaking mid corner. It's his fault or both of them but alonso was arguble deliberate and on japan probably a dnf for sainz.

[@d3al3rplays68]

@@ehrlichgesagt863 Safety car... See the word 'Safety'.. Stroll has 1 job under safety car, watch the car in front of you and follow instructions. Stroll was looking at other things... As always Stroll is not committed to racing.

[@Pleymo1992]

@@ehrlichgesagt863 the fuck are you smoking? Alonso was fighting for place, and Stroll was just being incredibly stupid. The fact that Alonso, once again, had the harsher penalty shows once again the maFIA seems to just hate him or wanting to fuck him over.

[@nigellawrance2130]

​@@ehrlichgesagt863hahaha

[@mikehipperson]

It's time for Stroll to take a stroll!

[@KingofFray]

which stroll?

[@EmilForsberg_GRYBO]

Stroll on home boi

[@JC-lu4se]

Lanced by a stroller.

[@henriquedaumas9934]

He has been, for 7 years now😢

[@fuerstmetternich1997]

He is strolling around every weekend on track...

[@KiiaBite]

How indignant was Stroll after he yeeted Riciardo? Riciardo was aware of what was going on and moving with the traffic. Then "here comes Lance Stroll" and according to Stroll it's Riciardo's fault. Stroll isn't a popular driver. When he takes out one of the most well liked drivers on the grid and then says it's not his fault, it's going to do nothing for his reputation in the sport. The tone around Lance Stroll seems to be changing in the F1 community, I can hear it in you guys too. It's stopped being funny how bad he is and now he's becoming an actual issue. "Taking your child to a soft play" lol. In all driving, whether it's Formula 1 or taking Granny on a trip to the shops. If you rear-end someone it's your fault. If you're the guy in front you can do nothing about how the drivers behind you behave. I feel for the old-school Aston Martin mechanics who joined the team when it was Force India or Racing Point having to fix the owners sons' car again because he's been an idiot. As you burn the midnight oil, you know no one is having words with him and he's living the high-life, only in the team because of his daddy. Morale must suck there. At least they have Alonso.

[@NexuJin]

Talking about Force India/Racing Point. They booted Checo, the one that saved the team, to make place for Lance.

[@LiftandCoa]

"Morale must suck there" And thats the point where i cant follow. Neither is there any real indication that Aston has ANY morale problems, nor do i udnerstand why a mechanic is supposed to be pissed off for doing his work by working on one of two cars 300 days a year - destroyed or not. His Personal Trainer might be pissed, his father might be pissed - the rest has absolutely no point to.

[@LiftandCoa]

@@NexuJin No, they kicked Checo to sign Vettel, Stroll was already in the team.

[@michaelwilkie35]

@@NexuJin by the time it was announced Perez wouldn’t be with the team back in 2020, Lance had more points, more points per race, (Perez did miss time with Covid) had a podium & was 4th in the driver standings. Obviously things have changed since then, but it was sound logic considering how young Lance was/still is.

[@Ticklestein]

@@LiftandCoaYou overestimate the pay and amount of free time the mechanics get.

[@britboy70]

Alonso said they had run out of hard tires because he used an extra set of tires in the sprint race so they didn’t have any other tires left to choose from

[@zahraali4326]

I don't get that, why were they able to then conjure up a middle?

[@konigstiger3252]

​@@zahraali4326 medium wont last till end... so it is either medium soft or soft medium...

[@IceKimi321]

Also another point which he made is that they weren't expecting that long SC where it helped hard tyres to endure till the end.

[@The_adopter]

RPM is gonna have a field day LMAO

[@Sem5626]

i am frothing to see how he covers w!ndow licker

[@BOBBOBBOBBOBBOBBOB69]

THROW HIM IN JAIL

[@mamavswild]

That was my FIRST thought when I saw the crash!! 😂

[@BlueSkyBS]

Lance Stroll is the kind of driver that you'd expect to see on one of those dash cam crash compilation videos.

[@pauls5745]

he's like that 1 guy in every kart race, that bottles it for a handful of others.

[@jerry24675]

Stroll 2 point penalty on license and Alonso 3 points is just crazy.

[@tbicks2822]

Correction: Alonso 3 penalty points is crazy (should be fewer). 2 for Stroll was correct.

[@eeehan77]

"Piastri a minute off the lead in 8th. Lando outperforming the car in 8th". You guys just gotta up that research before these episodes as Piastri had damage before the Ricciardo incident. Peter Windsor, who has many sources, provided his post-race update many hours back and this guy is harsh on anyone who doesn't perform. He stated that Piastri picked up damage to the floor from debris very early on in the China GP, where we started seeing 1 second deltas between the two, and of course Piastri encountered more damage later with Stroll into Ricciardo into Piastri. Noting that Norris typically out drives Piastri by about 0.2 to 0.3s a lap, if we start seeing a 1 second+ delta there is almost certainly a car issue behind it. Based on the severe impacts these issues apparently caused Piastri across the race, it is an absolute miracle Piastri managed 8th, and a credit to the McLaren car. This knowledge must be considered when making a determination on how much you think Norris "outperforms" the car.

[@zahraali4326]

Therefore, Piastri wasn't the biggest flop, and that point needs to be revoked, sirs

[@LiftandCoa]

@@zahraali4326 Calling Piastri a flop when Lewis exists is also a rough call anyway.

[@emmata98]

​@@LiftandCoahe at least performed in the sprint (a part oft the Grand Prix)

[@mtrps_]

i stopped taking their analysis seriously when they include team failures as part of the driver's fault. ???? so i just watch like a zombie now, head empty.

[@BlissifiedHH]

@@LiftandCoa I cant put Lewis in the biggest flop given he actually performed well during half of the weekend

[@Sem5626]

a few stroll fan bois defence during the race when i was talking to them was that we can't just judge lance because he has great "potential" that's what you want out of a driver who has been in the sport 7 years...

[@foxyfoxington2651]

Stroll has more races than Leclerc, Norris, and Russell. If he had any potential we would have seen it by now.

[@gardenphoto]

The truth - and nothing but the truth! - is that STROLL (Like the current "puppet-resident" in the US White House!) is nothing more than a spoiled rich kid who is even more entitled than his rich Daddy! F*** him!

[@joxerra]

Alonso's strategy was because he hadn't any more hard tyres, because of the sprint race... after race he commented in spanish tv that next sprint race he will maybe decide not to race it, depending on the S Qualy result, because of not enough points in play, and lack of tyres for the race... that would be quite intelligent...

[@Bohonk212]

Steward's just hate Fernando for being older than them and still racing Formula1.

[@Mr2it3881]

No they don't, they took away a penalty last year. (Which I never seen) If that was anyone else they would throw the book. It was investigated because it was shady but F1 is political.

[@judgegixxer]

As a Canadian I think we would be better off if Jacques came out of retirement and hopped in Stroll's car.

[@eugenux]

latifi..at least he is/was extremely good in rainy conditions.

[@tbicks2822]

@@eugenux So is Stroll tbf. Its pretty much the only part he's good at.

[@missmississippi16990]

I see Zhou being given a special celebration akin to when they let Webber on the podium for the AusGP when he came 5th. Like both were to celebrate achievements at their own home races. In Zhou's case it's to celebrate the fact he even is in F1 given the lack of foundation and ready made route already there that is available in other countries like the UK. In Webber's case it was the celebrate the unlikely and biggest achievement of an Aussie at the AusGP since it became part of the F1 calendar. Neither should have been on the podium or gotteb any official recognition but because it was their home races something special was done and I think that fine. It encourages more fans into the sport and it's heartwarming to see. I also think that this may be a one-off, where it is just his first race at home so they did something special. I think should he race there again, I doubt this much will be done again.

[@yesfinallygot1]

I agree. It's not really a big deal imo. But I'm less of a traditionalist than Tommy is so that may be why.

[@ralphe5842]

LS didn’t even slow down he wasn’t even looking and worst of all he blamed Ricardo calling him an idiot

[@tbicks2822]

He did slow down; just not quickly enough. The incident was bad enough that you don't need to make shit up about it, smh.

[@SuperR167]

He slowed down, just decided it would be more efficient to use Daniels rear end than his brakes 😢

[@nathanhardy7698]

I think the biggest underrated W this race was the TV direction. Especially the flicking between onboard cameras from battling cars. It felt like an experienced crew compared to the average last season

[@Becky_Cooling]

'RB gives you wings' no, Lance does.

[@makeitwithmurm]

Also impressive with the Alonso save is that the DRS slapped open as soon as the rears hooked up again.

[@Laniba12]

Yay it's up. After a really long day at work I've been looking forward to this 🙂

[@annanymous03]

The only alternate strategy that would’ve given Lando the win would have been attaching a missile on the car and deploying it on Max or having Oscar do a 180 going in the opposite direction and taking Max out like an assassin

[@nomar5spaulding]

I love the way you guys talk. Joking about the promising 18 year old rookie Fernando Alonso, saying things like, "Oh yes Tommy, pop off why don't you?" Things one, "You could argue getting yeeted is a bit floppy."

[@nielsvb162]

The special parking for Zhou was perfect! Remember he is the first Chinese man in history to be in F1 and that can mean so much in a country. I'm from the Netherlands and we're lucky with some bad f1 drivers but the moment Max came and won, the country changed to F1 lunatics! Zhou is a hero for his country and deserved all the attention.

[@JaydonTobler]

I think I’m realizing now that I’ve never heard Lance Stroll take responsibility for anything.

[@AR-wm9lv]

He has zero class. Just a spoiled brat

[@Biggest_tony]

Oscar getting biggest flop is a disservice to the man

[@JC-lu4se]

Just shows how quickly he's become a top driver and anything less than say 5th is a flop.

[@AZBCDEE]

He literally ghosted in the second fastest car even before the damage. He’s absolutely useless. He would’ve been behind an Aston Martin unacceptable

[@Biggest_tony]

@@AZBCDEE This comment is bait lol

[@adamheddle430]

against lando before the damage, he was 7 tenths off pace wise. It wasn't oscar's best weekend in terms of pace to lando. Could say that oscar never driven there before and not raced there, similar with lando. Lando got taken out lap 1 in 2019 so he didn't really have a race then

[@Mr2it3881]

The fact that people agreed with this is disturbing.

[@friendlyneighborhoodgoat]

The amount of time Stroll had to react is insane 😂😂

[@filipeferreira2281]

Regarding penalties, and specially now that we know Ric will get 3-grid place penalties due to the incident with lance. I do believe that incidents during safety periods (safety cars, VSC, Red Flags going to the box procedure, cooldown laps after the race end) should be more harshly punished. Its situations where drivers need to be more carefull therefore if they make mistakes they should be punished harder.

[@BelegCuthali0n]

Alonso explained why they went onto the softs. They basically got screwed with the the SC because they would have liked to continue on the hard tire, but since everybody else around him pitted for new tires he would have been a sitting duck on tires that were already 12 laps old. But since he (unlike the Red Bulls) did not have a 2nd set of new hard tires and he did a very short first stint on the medium compared to Norris and the Ferrari's, he had to go for soft/medium and hope he could push more than the guys around that would have to nurse their new hard tires to the end. It really was the only way to go after they had made that first stop on lap 11 already.

[@stuartcarden1371]

The trouble with the stroll project is that even if he gets a race winning car he's not going to be able to win anything with it because he'll be up against Alonso. So unless Laurence puts Sargent in the car next to Lance he's never going to win 😂

[@Duval-In-The-Wall]

This is probably going to happen, when they make the Aston fast enough he will sack Alonso 😂😂

[@chrismuz]

💔 This might be interesting for the non-German speakers among us: Toto Wolff in yesterday's interview with Sky Germany: "Hamilton forced us into a development direction that was completely off, the car could not corner any more at all". He also said, when SLH leaves, there won’t be much loss of (development) know-how. The vibe was that he was quite fed up with all his complaining. He said that a new driver will be "refreshing".- LOVE STORY - The End. 💔

[@BwInNewJersey]

To be clear Wolff was referring to the setup changes in China only. He also wasnt using ‘refreshing’ in regard to Lewis leaving Mercedes. Nice try to troll LH but you failed.

[@chriscollins550]

But Toto also said a totally different thing in another interview. The truth is more the fact that Toto is still upset that Lewis is leaving Mercedes.

[@mamavswild]

@@BwInNewJersey ok teamLH man baby. Go cry into that blue hair. Lol

[@SammEKayy]

The way they broadcast the race anymore is like what the do for DTS and I’m over it. I don’t wake up at 3am to watch DTS I wake up at 3 am to watch an F1 race…

[@Connurrr]

I went full conspiracy mode with that VSC call. The moment Lando passed the pit entry they threw it, so Leclerc could pit and Lando couldn't 😂 luckily the car was stuck in gear.

[@yossayahutsapak7239]

complete nonsense , i would say that max should yell conspiracy cos he lost so much time with each restart ..that sentiment is as equally stupid

[@Connurrr]

@@yossayahutsapak7239 alright don't cry mate, it's not that deep.

[@zordiark9673]

28:00 We had one of these Celebrations way before Liberty was a thing. Webber 2002 in Australia when he scored Points in a Minardi was allowed to be at the Podium after the Ceremony.

[@jordanblair4077]

Webber was a bit more deserving though…

[@SuperPassionflower]

I do agree a bit with the question posed by Erin (if I'm correct) about penalties and some not in proportion of the offence and consequences vs "the rules"... 10 secs for a Stroll and a Magnussen, after taking another out it means nothing really, unless they'd be in a P2 position etc; versus the offence causing the 3 places grid penalty for Miami race given to Ricciardo??

[@joea8426]

I think you can argue Lawrence is wasting his money, not on paying his kid like you said but on all of the car damages / repairs that come from Lance and from the loss of potential prize earnings if there were a better driver in the car

[@alexg7417]

Second to the Alonso penalty in terms of things I don't understand .. why on earth did Danny Ric get a 3 place grid drop and 2 points for re-overtaking the Hulk under the safety car after being yeeted by Lance when the sanction was only imposed AFTER he couldn't serve a time penalty. Completely nuts.

[@tbicks2822]

Because you're not allowed to overtake under a safety car. If you think the order is wrong, your team has to ask for the other driver to be instructed to let you pass by the race director. It's a silly way of getting a penalty, but everybody knows you can't overtake under SC, so he really only has himself to blame. As for it being a grid drop, once a decision to issue a penalty has been decided, there's not much else they can do if youre not still running, so it was pretty much their only option.

[@alexg7417]

@@tbicks2822 there are number of exceptions to that rule under article 55.8 - I think. The exception they cited to allow Hülkenberg's overtake to stand was pretty soft in my opinion. I haven't heard any radio transmission or seen any transcript to know what discussions were had between Ricciardo and the team around repassing Hülkenberg to know who is to 'blame'. I fully accept your observation that everyone (should) know the rules and the consequences of breaking them. I would say though that there is a disconnect between the impact of 10 sec time penalty and 3 place grid drop. There will of course always be room for debate - and any version of a rule like this could, under particular circumstances be considered unfair. Having said that in this sort of scenario where it is a fairly inconsequential incident, no damage was done no advantage gained, the stewards had 7 laps to review it while the car was still running but didn't, then maybe a more proportionate penalty would be to roll over the time penalty to the next race. Anyway - we all have our own opinion.

[@duuudde12]

I'm still of the opinion, if alonso's move was 10 seconds and 3 points, that move from stroll was 20 seconds and 4 points minimum..

[@zahraali4326]

I've been waiting for this video!!

[@rars0n]

The points proposal is everything stays the same down to 7th, then instead of going 4, 2, 1, it would go 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. I like the idea for the exact reasons that Tommy mentioned. I think there needs to be more of a points fight for the midfield teams.

[@Duval-In-The-Wall]

Unfortunately Stroll hit him but it was still a very good weekend for Ricciardo, out-qualified his teammate twice, and was showing great pace in the race He was slicing through the midfield and even chasing down Hamilton Hopefully the chassis change did the trick for him

[@The_Other_Dan]

Lance is never going to lose his seat while Daddy Stroll is around. The FIA need to step in and revoke Lances Super Licence for the sake of the safety of the other drivers and the integrity of the sport.

[@tbicks2822]

He doesn't even have the most penalty points, which is how safety breaches are punished, so under your logic, Perez and Sargent should also have their licenses revoked.

[@AR-wm9lv]

Lance shouldn't even have a regular license

[@craftymommy3470]

what y'all need to understand about Zhou's moment is that its not everyday that an Asian, east Asian or South East Asian gets to drive in f1. there's more pressure from people like us than it is for someone from Europe participating in this sport. we can all argue that Zhou brings a ton of money with him but come on. if you're not good enough, you'll never get that kind of backing too. for someone like him to reach a global sport like this is in itself something to celebrate.

[@BanditoBurrito]

Nobodies complaining about his “moment”. Some just thought it was kind of forced when it was happening naturally anyway. Also “gets” to drive in F1? lol.

[@leoaruiz]

Memorable moment: Lando's redemption drive after a horrible first-to-seventh sprint.

[@TobiasDahs]

Love all your content, but you should have watched Fernando's post race interview. He did only have one good hard tire left which bascially got ruined by the safety care timing - so it was either soft + medium or trying to extend the medium way beyond what's reasonable. Also the second (and pretty long) SC didn't help their cause as it reduced the amount of racing laps for the one stopppers on the hard tire. Without that, the degradation might have been higher and Alonso's strategy would have worked better.

[@davidszabo1765]

the Zhou situation was reminding me when they allowed Webber to the podium in Australia, it was a very wholesale moment

[@existentialselkath1264]

Constantina is also not an excuse when stroll left more space in front of him than almost everyone else going around that corner. Stroll is proving to be dangerous as well as generally lacking pace.

[@JC-lu4se]

Concertina.

[@existentialselkath1264]

@@JC-lu4se that's the one, thanks

[@matthewdunn2034]

Awarding a point for Oscar biggest flop, while K-Mag, Stroll, Yuki & Logie existed in this race, is wild.

[@Duval-In-The-Wall]

Facts

[@throwawaypokemon]

Alonso had no new hard tyres for his stints

[@SniperTeamTango]

Gooood early morning boys. 3:00 a.m. Sunday race 3 a.m. Monday podcast seems decent to me

[@Mr_Tovarish]

I think people critical of the Zhou thing are jaded - we talk all the time about how F1 is the pinnacle of motorsport, it's only 20 drivers, etc etc. The most populated country in the world has their first ever driver on the grid - he misses his home GP for the first few years of his career because his country is cut off from the rest of the world, and then they finally have the opportunity to welcome him home and give him the proper celebration he was due in his rookie season. Would it have been better if he was further up the grid? Sure. But if we want to keep acting like F1 is such a big deal, then we need to let fans across the globe feel like it's a big deal - so big a deal that seeing themselves represented on the grid, even if in P16 (or whatever it was), is something they feel compelled to celebrate with fervor. We should be so honored that the Chinese people hold a position in the sport in such high regard that they would act this way on this occasion. F1 choosing to support that to some small extent is entirely within reason in my opinion.

[@jrs86]

Alonso literally said after the race (in the post-race media scrums) that they didn't leave themselves enough tyres after SQ and Q, so they basically backed themselves into that strategy before the race even started.

[@Stefan8u]

I think the first driver to race at their home country should be given some special treatment. It doesn't affect the race or points and is great for fans.

[@notorioushkm97]

I don't think Matt & Tommy understand how significant the celebration for Zhou is for China as a whole.

[@Kessoku]

did you?

[@bazinga12094]

Lance in his post race interview acting like he just heard the phrase "Constantina effect". He repeated it 10x in 2minutes wanting to sound smart hahahah

[@mtrps_]

🤓 concertina isnt it?

[@Shlokiee]

Lance was calling it constantina​@@mtrps_

[@bazinga12094]

@@mtrps_ in theory yes, but according to lance: CONSTANTINA. 👌

[@mtrps_]

@@bazinga12094 😂😂

[@gilmer3718]

It's crazy that Sainz is still looking for a seat while Stroll is still racing and has a seat in the future. His father is going to keep this going and someone is going to get seriously hurt. Hamilton might have been OK in the sprint but the ONLY reason he got pole was because of rain at the end of Q3.

[@DJ_LampShady]

During the 10 second penalty the driver taken out of the race should be able to take a blunt object to the other drivers car. lolol

[@Beagles-Garage]

In 2002 Aus GP, Mark Webber was given an impromptu podium ceremony after the race. So a special occasion for Chinese to celebrate their first F1 driver seems fair, the discussion about that parking on grid is just a bit biased and petty.

[@M1R4Z]

Welcome to the p1 podcast with Tatt and Mommy 😂😂😂

[@harrymadgwick2737]

Tommy says the funniest things sometimes 'stroll has as much carnage as kids do at a soft play ' made me laugh

[@thesilverfox3379]

You should just rename your podcast to the 'Max Verstappen podcast' as he now owns the rights to "'P1".

[@elaine_don]

Max and Charles Podcast

[@madscientist6843]

When discussing Alonso's strategy why was there no mention of RB not pitting Riccardo? That meant he had to pit later like Alonso, however RB decided to pit Yuki during the safety car, even though he didn't need to pit?

[@user-pn4yx6cm2c]

In 22 laps Max had a 20 sec. lead on the rest. What are the other drivers doing ??

[@chriscollins550]

Because the max car is better than another car on the grid.

[@mark123655]

Not driving a Red Bull.

[@BrandoN-ie1np]

Mazepin would have a pit stop gap in 22 laps on that car tbf

[@TheVillageIdiotUk]

The TV direction was absolutely infuriating. From SQ1 to the end of the main race, the number of times they cut away from cars on track to a car sitting in pit garage or box, spectators in the crowd or the bald spot of an engineer on the pit wall.

[@GamerSloth2275]

Or a local celebrity I couldn't give two hoot about...

[@sbGOM]

Or the flash to "( insert name here)...model girlfriend of ( insert name of driver here)"

[@marctenoever7941]

Agree 3 points for Alonso is way too much...Lans should more.

[@jomojonarvaez-grey1193]

28:05 I think the thing with Zhou was a welcome back thank you for your patience one time thing and not something that they are going to do every year.

[@LednacekZ]

I dont think that Stroll should get higher penalty because he is Stroll. I think Causing a Collision under Safety Car should be a very harsh penalty.

[@christopherhutter3233]

Tommy gets full point for the biggest good surprise. When he made the prediction he clearly stated that he was not predicting points for Alpine, only that they'd move up from the back of the field. 11 and 13 is a clear and significant improvement and therefore warrant the point for Tommy.

[@XolSanctum]

I can understand why some people disagree with Zhou getting his own spot post race... Unfortunately I disagree with the lads and will say 74 years and the first and only Chinese driver, I think that deserves recognition on how far F1 has come with diversity. He might be the only one we see for a while given how his career is going so I think it is right for F1 to seize this chance while they have it. Maybe he will be the one to inspire a potential future Chinese talent to pursue driving in F1 Oh and Stroll is an absolute clown and needs to get the boot but sadly won't 😪

[@Chrissy-H]

I thought that was much more than a 6/10 race. The safety car timings really made for some interesting strategies, there were crashes, controversy, and a heroic drive from Lando. I know Max won easily, but right up until the lat lap it felt like something MIGHT happen, which is more than i can say for 90% of races this season.

[@DiscoStu65-sj6pu]

I wonder if Johnny Herbert was the race official…. He has a vendetta against Fernando Alonso from years back. They hate each other and I’m pretty sure Herbert was the drivers standard steward in Australia hence Alonso getting the penalty 🤔

[@mamavswild]

He WAS the race official and he was the guy that wrote the opinion for the penalty! I definitely think it was personal

[@ThisWillCharacter]

With what you’re saying about points, it does make sense for everyone to get something. Currently there’s no benefit to coming 11th over coming 20th, you just wear the car down more. If a driver goes from 20th to 11th over the course of the race they get nothing for that effort

[@drod3434]

Without the safety car Lando would have been 3rd. Checo burned his tires trying to pass Charles.

[@justherb666]

NASCAR changed the points system after 2003 when Matt Kenneth clinched the title with several races to go and only one win.

[@siniister710]

aston would be fighting for 3rd/4th in the constructors if they had another driver with fernando

[@GSullsRacing.]

I think for sprint weekends the biggest good surprise and biggest flop should be half a point for just the sprint race or just the race being biggest good surprise or flop and a full point for for it to be correct for both races

[@trevorhintz1290]

I would’ve watched the race race at 2 am, but I thought it would be better to gets 8 or 9 hours of sleep and then watch it.

[@quicksailsystembymarri8402]

You can love him, you can hate him, nevermind because Alonso is the must. Everybody talk about him because you like or not, is the most complete driver ever.

[@kimi88cz]

Piastri was not a flop, Lewis not a half point and Alpine is not a point too

[@Urgrannytranny]

After the damage he incurred, he was a sitting ducks indeed. And was powerless against a flying Fernando coming from behind. The only thing positive was that he was able to keep Lewis behind even though LH was in the 0.8-1.2 sec bracket for last 10 laps

[@akorthouwer]

They are casual fans they are not advertised as technical analysis or even knowledgeable about f1.

[@sloppynyuszi]

Am I missing something? Piastri was slow from lap 1. Without the damage he would have been closer to Sainz and finish 6th… while his team mate was almost 20 seconds ahead of Sainz.

[@bjs7442]

@@Urgrannytranny At lap 19 Oscar was over 9 secs behind Lando and in 8th place. He was losing .5 sec per lap that was before the damage. Yes he would have done better without the damage perhaps gaining one or optimisitically two places. He wasnt a flop, far from it but it wasnt one of his better races.

[@JC-lu4se]

8th with a damaged car isn't too bad. I'd like their definition of "flop". No less than 3 places behind their team mate? No more than 10 seconds behind team mate?

[@W0o0dy]

0,5 million fine for ending a drivers race deducted from the cost cap would be a nice deterrent and would help cover the cost of the damage (slightly).

[@Coen80]

People need to bring a banner to the Canadian GP that reads : 'GO Lance, GO HOME'. 😂

[@KingofFray]

pretty sure lawrence beat those who dares to do it

[@Kessoku]

Canada is his home tho

[@RcInfinityZ]

My theory is that Alonso was brought in to put even more pressure on Lance so that ultimately, he decides to call quits himself. Lawrence then has the WEC Aston Martin Hypecar programme lined up for Lance to jump into.

[@joea8426]

Alonso had used his second set of hards in FP1 for a long run and so couldn't have used them after the SC in the race

[@TheOfficialMyk]

Points up to 12 up next. And In a couple of years when we get 24 car grid we will get points up to 15.

[@ShadowmonkeyX-]

Causing a collision under safety car conditions should carry a heavier penalty than the same penalty under racing conditions. The Safety car is out there for a reason, so dumb mistakes like Stroll's should face harsher punishments. What if they had collided when the crocodile was passing an incident? It's really an inexcusable offense by Stroll

[@tomhutchins7495]

F1 doesn't want racing. Put the fastest car at the front, so much dirty air no one can follow, and only pass with DRS, that's their dream.

[@philbrooks1919]

been waiting for this all day

[@emmata98]

This video was released not even halfway into the day for Europe and the US...

[@f.kieranfinney457]

Setting the home hero’s car to one side is merely a sign of respect for the crowd, the host country, etc. It’s very smart marketing. Get over yourselves.