Max Kellerman: Juan Manuel Marquez conditioning SUSPICIOUS

[@ggnmarley1319]

If you honestly believe that Marquez is not taking PED's your a clown, he looked faster than ever on Sat night, did you see all the spots on his chest never seen that on him before,

[@LegionarioCruel]

And how can he be "faster than ever" while throwing and landing LESS punches than 5 years ago against Juan Diaz, for example? And his footwork is sloppy; he was flatfooted for most of the second half of the fight and you could tell his speed and strength was fading away rapidly. He is a very talented 40 yo boxer, but he is aging just like anyone else.

[@eggmeep]

@@LegionarioCruel It's been 5 yrs, has your opinion changed?

[@LegionarioCruel]

​@@eggmeep Nope, why would it?

[@sbk5103]

@@LegionarioCruel Yes, JMM is a great fighter who is aging but having a second puberty

[@LegionarioCruel]

@@radrando Boxing doesn't work that way. Styles make fights, and, as Fredeie Roach said, Marquez has got Manny's number.

[@MartyMMA1]

marquez didnt have visible muscles when he was in his 20's. when he hooked up with memo heredia, he suddenly became incredible hulk

[@Mr.Deko86]

@Andres Figueroa The topic of discussion is about Marquez being physically influenced by a foreign substance which caused a spike in performance, stamina, speed, reaction, stamina and power. Yet here you are diverting the attention away from Marquez, when there's an overwhelming visual observation that leads to to this concern or conclusion. This is a common tactic used by those associated with the person in question when the evidence points to what appears to be the obvious. When people like you respond to comments the same way in every section, it actually makes the suspicion stronger against the one you defend. Try coming back with something substantial instead of lashing out, cursing, or even more diversion. You make yourself look like a fanboy.

[@Mr.Deko86]

@Andres Figueroa you did the same thing again. The topic was about Marquesz juicing and you still bring up pacman. Did Marquez juice or not in the last fight?

[@Mr.Deko86]

@Andres Figueroa ok fair enough. However, the physical signs in his fights with Pacquiao and Alvarez point to a very sudden elevated testosterone levels that should not be had from a 40 year old man. I don't know about you, but many of us had acne issues during our early adulthood and it had to do with testosterone. Especially on the back and chest. The classic sign of juicing is the sudden appearance of acne as well as being abnormally ripped after displaying a defined mad simply toned body throughout your career. His skin was a dead giveaway. People "hating" on Marquez have valid questions. Don't take my word for it. Do a quick search on the physical effects of testosterone supplementation. Acne, changed in skin texture etc... It's the visual test that raises concerns and usually require testing after the event.

[@Mr.Deko86]

@Andres Figueroa so no opinion on the physical evidence? 😭😭😭 I give up

[@vanharoldgonzales5361]

@@Mr.Deko86 I know that feeling, man. When you give logical reasoning but then got answered by irrelevant arguments. Also Pacquiao got punched by the same counters all throughout their other 3 fights but only this time that it did knock him down.

[@fulltonesmusic]

I think Marquez had simply had it with the controversial decisions vs. Pacman, so he juiced up with Heredia to have the edge the fourth time around. At his age, if he had actually bulked up to the size he became naturally, he would have been slower than molasses & gassed out in no time. His physique literally changed before our eyes, at the age of 40. I literally laughed outloud when Marquez weighed in.... all that ripped bulk covered in acne... all I could say was "Well, shit, he definitely ain't planning on going to a decision a fourth time!" BTW, I love Marquez... he always had Pacman's number. But he straight up cheated in the fourth fight.

[@juanflores3957]

Look marquez vs pacman 3 weigh in. You will see the same size.

[@YBlnx]

He was already in roid the 3rd fight

[@antoniohonzales7952]

and what about paquiao

[@puetohoi]

Mexican pharmacy helped all the mexicans make it to the top of boxing LOL

[@Mr.Deko86]

I haven't looked at the comments on this section, but let me guess. Andres, you're in here somewhere throwing daggers at Pacman aren't you?

[@janekerigan235]

The way Marquez looked like against pacquiao in the 4th fight was suspicious to me. He just lookedso huge

[@britishrock1903]

hahaha you should claim it in 3rd fight when marquez was robbed but in the fight where marquez knocked pacquiao all american people say bullyshit about marquez...marquez allways was clean the orine exams resuls were OK

[@janekerigan235]

+British Rock the reason why people say that was he looked different in the 4th fight. Everyone noticed it even before the fight began. he looked the same in his first 3 fights

[@JoHDify]

but he didn't take a piss test before and after the fight and refused to sign contract next fights.

[@carlosbarboza6826]

Then why the hell did team pacq not demand blood drug test for Marq? Yes thats right Pacq was hiding something

[@regginsouth9565]

That's what steroids make, canelo is a steroid user but not as good as marquez to win. 😂

[@adrianmagadia4237]

Marquez and Heredia cheated Pacquaio.... That's the bottomline!!

[@bentan7203]

​@Andres Figueroa I see you lurking and responding to every Marquez steroid video. Just admit he has been officaly ruled internival steroids. A point is that pacquaio gained weightded in poverty which means he was very skinny, but when he finally got nutrition specialists, his weight improved to a more natural weight. His high calorie diet and conditioning also enhanced his ability. Stop blaming him for steroids when there are barely anystrong evidence. Marquez clearly had a second puberty at 40 years old, and was significantly stronger with acne as the indicator. You have never made a point in every statement you made.

[@bentan7203]

​@Andres Figueroa Bruh, Pacquaio was poor when he was raised, so he did not have any nutrition. His physical stance was not impressive in Asia because of his lack of nutrition. He also started professionaly at a really young age, so most of his opponents were much more experienced in Asia. Pacquaio's lack of experience factored his performance at some matches. When he arrived to America, he met Freddie Roach. This then contributed towards him progressing as he started gaining more knowledge and techniques. His trainers suggested him to increase his diet, as it will enhance his progression. You clearly don't understand his story as he was just a kid and when he arrived to America, his skilled improved drastically because of all of these factors. Pacman developed a skill without steroids because there are no indicators. You are just jealous that pacman has had such a inspirational journey towards the pinnacle of boxing superiority. Stop dobuting his skill when you don't have any promising evidence.

[@bentan7203]

@Andres Figueroa Pacman's high calorie diet was also the reason to how he gained weight so astronomically. He did this to provide energy and stamina for his high intesity training. Asian diets also have a lot of rice, which contains a lot of fats. Pac was never at his natural weight because of his lack of support. When he incorporated many more meals into his typical diet, he instantly gained weight. You are clearly a pac hater as you can accept the factual insentives here. I highly suggest you learn more about pacs story and how he expanded his training regime. This will reveal more information about how athletes maximize their capacity and surpass the limitations from an attributes perspective.

[@bentan7203]

@Andres Figueroa Is there any other evidence that can prove your point? Other boxers had titles in 5 or 6 weight classes and no one dobuts them. Pacquaio gained his ability naturally. Stop getting jealous that Pacquaio has had a successful. You always deny factual statements because of how you are completely bias towards pacman. Pacmans appearance never looked suspicious. He would always have a reputation for having no manipulation. All of the other proffessionals also agree that Pacquaio is a clean fighter with no intentions of cheating. For example, Timothy Bradley always tested negative with his tests and he believes that Marquez has supplies himself with steroids. Marquez ability was also suspicious with the Pacquaio fights because of how he was significantly stronger than Marquez vs Bradley. Bradley then went on to defeat Marquez in their fight. Pacquaio outclassed Bradley in every fight they had. This shows that Marquez was clearly using steroids because of puberty and immediate strength increase when he fought pac.

[@bentan7203]

​@Andres Figueroa You are actually hating because of how you always deny and not accept all of the facts about Marquez using steroids. Another reason to why you are a Pac man hater is because of you bringing up that Pacquaio uses steroids in every video that does not relate to that. The majority of the videos that you comment on do not relate to pacquaio using steroids. Its just displaying that Marquez used steroids in a part of his career. You also never defended about how Marquez did not use steroids, you just made fake accusations about Pacman using steroids. FYI I am not a Marquez hater. I'm just providing information and examples to how Marquez could have potentially used steroids.

[@ChickenWingsMelon]

I think Kellerman usually keeps it honest & real. He is far from phony. I think you need to watch a few more fights. Here @ 2:50 he could have took the easy way out. but he didn't & he is right. It is suspect Marquez is now faster Stronger & more powerful at the age of 40. If Marquez is clean. he should have never hired that cheater as his trainer!

[@carlosbarboza6826]

Pacqs a cheater

[@johnnysaints7978]

@@carlosbarboza6826 lol marqroid is the real cheater

[@carlosbarboza6826]

@@johnnysaints7978 how? He passed all of the test Pacq demanded of him. Pacquiao always went like I'm afraid of needles. Or maybe he was afraid of something else.

[@mountaindew3201]

@@carlosbarboza6826Pacquiao always accepted the USADA test. Dafuq u on?

[@breakaway2x]

Kellerman is 100% right when he talks about the cloud of suspicion behind those athletes who seem to get faster and better at an advanced age. Anyone here remember Barry Bonds? He was always a great 30/30 man. But suddenly when he hit his late 30s pushing 40, he got twice as big, twice as strong, and started knocking out 70 homers a season, and his eyes were faster, reaction times were faster which was why he could see any ball and time it easily for a homerun.

[@carlosbarboza6826]

Pacq also is suspicious af bc lil flyweight is koed in Asia 3 times but then yrs later is playing with welters

[@reylopez1803]

@@carlosbarboza6826 he was a poor teenager almost skin bones. That fight force himself to fight in flyweight (which he struggled to make weight) in order him to defend his title when his body was maturing, that's why he skip 2 weight classes after he loss

[@mountaindew3201]

@@carlosbarboza6826 yet at 41, pacquiao had the same physique when he was 10 yrs younger in his 30s yet JMM has definitely changed in the past 15 yrs

[@frankiemonato583]

I remember when i watched the interview of chael sonnen with jim baker he was asked what can you say about pacquiao marquez 4 fight. He said that i never see a 39 year old guy ho undergone for the secondtime on his puberty. He has a power 6 pack abs and bigger which on the 3rd fight he didn't have.

[@carlosbarboza6826]

Pacq lil flyweight is koed in Asia 3 times but then koes welters thats not suspicious? 🤔

[@mountaindew3201]

@@carlosbarboza6826 yeah but when pacquiao reached 40 compared to JMM his physique didn’t change drastically compared to JMM in the 3rd to 4th fight

[@saintcruzin3190]

C'mon, did you see all that acne on Marquez chest and back?? PED major symptom.

[@carlosbarboza6826]

Pacqs on roids

[@Jhuncatzz]

Marquez definitely on juice again, he look like superhuman on that fight good for him!

[@happylife590]

Users of PEDs display certain observable signs: a new physique with ripped bulked up muscles, markedly increased power and strength, speed and remarkable stamina. It was not only these visual indicators that Juan Manuel Marquez showed in his last fight with Manny Pacquiao which caused many in the press box to suspect that he was using PEDs but also the presence in his corner of a shadowy figure named Angel Hernandez. Angel is officially designated as Marquez’ conditioning trainer. Just before Marquez’ spectacular dead to the world knockout of Manny Pacquiao last December 8, 2012, while watching HBO’s reality show “24/7 Pacquiao - Marquez” on TV, convicted BALCO Chairman and PEDs supplier Victor Conte recognized Angel Hernandez and came out with the bombshell public revelation that “Hernandez” was an assumed name and that the man was formerly known as “Angel ‘Memo’ Heredia” - a user and supplier of PEDs to elite athletes. In 2008, in the US government’s case against Olympics track coach Trevor Howard, in order to avoid prosecution, Angel agreed to testify for federal prosecutors. He revealed that he supplied PEDs to Marion Jones and other star athletes in various sports. During the trial, a New York Times article profiled him: “Mr. Heredia, a former Mexican national discus champion, is a secretive figure on the track circuit who describes himself as a chemist, scientist and nutritionist…He said he used family connections to pharmacies and labs in Mexico to help his business. For years, Mr. Heredia said, he helped clients flout the rules and easily avoided detection. Substances like the human growth hormone and the blood booster erythropoietin or EPO, are still virtually impossible to detect, and it’s still easy to use testosterone with fast acting creams, he said. ‘You combine all these things - boom! - you get amazing results.’ Mr. Heredia said.”

[@Punchout101]

@Andres Figueroa You're not saying anything. You just deflect whenever your favorite boxer gets criticized.

[@Punchout101]

@Andres Figueroa Refused??? Yeah, now I know you ain't saying anything lmao

[@Punchout101]

@Andres Figueroa Do you... read what you write? That doesn't make any sense. Are you saying he didn't get ko'ed??? Look man, I think we're done here, your dumbass is just saying straight nonsense now.

[@carlosbarboza6826]

Pacroids is a fraud

[@prince111705]

once again great interview my man Radio Rahim..respect from the Phils

[@carlosbarboza6826]

Pacq a coward on roids

[@sweetassassin9176]

Candid max Kellerman.. I love your honesty sometimes..

[@carlosbarboza6826]

Pacq s a cheater

[@chinchecker464]

What do Marquez and Holyfield have in common? Both get faster and stronger when they age😂 🇲🇽👀💉🥩

[@carlosbarboza6826]

Pacqroids

[@regginsouth9565]

Canelo has peds but still got wrecked 😂

[@Tehui1974]

I'm not implying anything, but Mayweather's career performances are very suspicious.

[@HereBesMe]

I just hope Pacquiao demands Olympic drug testing for the fifth fight with Marquez.

[@balaycebu9261]

That was why he refused the 5th challenge because the Rumor were already noticed he was on steroids.

[@antoniohonzales7952]

jajaja he itself is on steroid

[@carlosbarboza6826]

Floyd demanded the same and Pacq said he was afraid of needles

[@carlosbarboza6826]

@@balaycebu9261 Pacq refused to open wallet and make big money offer for fight 5

[@VaIues]

@@carlosbarboza6826 Marquez scared for rematch, marquez steroids

[@commonintel]

Everyone in the building and at home knew Marquez was juiced up during that 4th fight w/ Manny

[@vinyl4ever128]

carlosb1 your argument doesnt make sense. What Kellerman is saying is that its not natural for a 40 year old fighter to all of a sudden becomes stronger and faster. Even the pacman slowed down at age.

[@edrodriguez863]

His right and has a great point has a fighter get older he gets slower not faster and they use to say the samething about paquiao ......paquiao hasn't knocked out no body in 5 years.....but to my opinion Marques looked liked he was on something when he fought paquiao ...not now

[@carlosbarboza6826]

Pacqroids a cheat fraud

[@sflores1985]

Oh my god! Steroids doesn't make you hit harder or faster!!! It makes you recover faster!!!! That's it!!! Technique and experience makes you punch harder. There is also timing involved. Marquez is a very intelligent and good counter puncher. His experience with fighting Pacman 3 times before he knocked him out in the fourth fight is what got him the win. Plus Alvarado sucked, and his loss to Bradley just shows you he's not on shit. Bradley was way faster than Marquez, he beat him with speed, reflexes, and technique. That's why a lot off MMA fighters were taking it because their training I am sorry to say is more intense than boxing!!! MMA fighters have to train in wrestling, Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, boxing, kick boxing etc. That's not even including their conditioning and road work. Gym rats that are juiced don't get bigger just because they take steroids, its because they recover faster so they can put in more work. People are stupid...

[@franzhk9]

Pacquiao Marquez 5? Yes, please.

[@imanartistwhogaveupatdrawi3827]

At least pacquiao at age 40 doesn't have the same stamina and is complete gassed out at round 6, while Marquez on the other hand still looks like he can pull it off despite taking a huge beating in round 5

[@FerdinandDivinagracia]

Awesome interview by Radio Rahim

[@tinktwiceman]

Great interview!!

[@ninomatsing7312]

Mexicans Are Extremely DESPERATE to stop Humiliations from philippines. Pacman-MarqPEDS, Donaire-Montiel and many more. Even before Pacman and marqPEDS became famous MEXICO HAS ALREADY HISTORY of PEDS boxers. marqPEDS DID NOT KO ANYONE after win over MP, in fact hes outsmart by less experienced Bradley. In my observations MarqPEDS already on cheating as early as 3rd fight. Plus marqPEDS did Dirty Tricks of Foot stomp 20+ Times on that 3rd fight thats why hes able to land good shots. 3fights before, marqPEDS ALREADY GAVE ALL HIS KILLER PUNCH But MP was still standing. The Mysterious Power is the question here. SOMETHING THAT EVEN MIKE TYSON DID NOT DO. Many powerful and Influencial people in America GOT ANGRY OVER MP because of his anti LGBT comments so THEY WANTED to RUINED HIS CAREER. They CONSPIRED TOGETHER. 2012 Two Loss of MP happened.

[@ldiddynyc]

That last Manny fight was where.... Mexico. I want to see Marquez even get a speeding ticket in Mexico, much less get scolded for juicing up to ko the guy who's been edging him for the last decade. Its all good. game recognize game. Congrats, well-played viejo.

[@carlosbarboza6826]

Pacqroids

[@ggnmarley1319]

He was faster and his chest was was ridiculous looking

[@carlosbarboza6826]

So was Pacq

[@kingbaysic6945]

No doubt about JMM becoming faster at 40. Watch his fights before and after fighting Pacquiao 4th time.

[@carlosbarboza6826]

Pacq s a former flyweight koed in Asia 3 times but then koes welters 🤔?

[@GhostDogBlackTR5]

Yea Kellerman... Your suspicious of JMM but not Pacquiao??? Come on son...

[@gabrielapilado6247]

He's suspicious of JMM but not Pacquiao? So you mean he has to be suspicious as well to Pacquiao? But why? Floyd's army and dumbass fans had already accused Pacquiao without any valid evidence. I don't think Max Kellerman should feel the need of joining Floyd's army and accuse Pacquiao of using PEDs.

[@infernapeDLS]

Gabriel Apilado yeah but IMO, Manny was winning the 4th fight and if Marquez would have lost that nobody would have said that he was highly suspicious, Manny and Marquez dont do PED I think, Its experience that makes them better, They have replaced speed and power with timing and experience

[@Gadgetdee1]

Juan Manuel Marquez and Manny Pacquiao are drinking from the same juice bottle.

[@chakyunfan]

May I remind you Pacquiao sued Mayweather for that accusation without proof and Floyd settled that suit and paid Pacquiao for damages. Pacquiao was knocking his opponents since he was in Featherweight class. That accusation was started by Mayweathers father when Pacquiao knocked out Hatton who happened to be Hattons trainer then. Suspicion abt PED with JMM will always be there for the fact that drugs are all over spread in Mexico specially now because of his new hired conditioning trainer Heredia who everyone knows has been affiliated with PED and steroid before. How on earth a boxer who passed his prime and pushing 40 suddenly has a power like incredible hulk? Pacquiao took all Marquez power punches during Marquez prime and inspite of all of that Marquez never managed to knock down Pacquiao in their 3 previous fights until their 4th fight. Pacquiao was winning the points in that fight until Pacquiao forgot to duck and Marquez got his lucky punch. Get real. What a lucky day!

[@infernapeDLS]

chakyunfan those are hard facts I am aware of BUT i dont think Heredia would be as dumb to use PED's with his fighters, I mean his real name isnt even Memo Heredia because of the whole PED dispute xd but yeah I want facts that Marquez uses PED's if I dont see that in my mind Marquez just got better by way of experience, skill and timing

[@jrent52002]

the power of mexican steroids

[@itsthemuscledad38]

Look up memo heredia

[@carlosbarboza6826]

Or alex ariza

[@Caaarrl94]

i think marquez was on peds in the 4th pacquiao fight, but let's face it. Peds or not. that punch was going to knock out pacquiao the way he was lunging in. Hell, malignaggi could have knocked him out lunging in like that lol

[@gshmoker6805]

don't ever mention Paulie and Manny in the same sentence. Paulie wouldn't last at all with Manny.

[@evaadams4243]

Pacquiao was careless because he knew he could finish Marquez off. Lucky punch ensued. Then Pacquiao offered Marquez $100 Million rematch. Marquez turned it down because he knew that Pacquiao team will demand VADA testing and he knew without steroids, he will get kncoked out!

[@PhantomO01]

Surprising good interview.

[@itsbellamomma4445]

well duhhh he has memo heredia in his corner.

[@carlosbarboza6826]

Pacqroids a fraud cheater

[@smithruiz4]

Great insight. One mans opinion, not gospel.

[@JohnSmith-ky2ej]

Pacquiao is a better fighter then Marquez without a doubt. There's no way Marquez would beat all of the guys Pacquiao has. Bradley outboxed Marquez and Pacquiao just beat Bradley lol I thought Pacquiao won the first 3 fights i thought they were close but Pacquiao won

[@carlosbarboza6826]

PACQ used lots of catchweight advantages and clauses to wim fights

[@sirparrymoppins4732]

Lawls, people just want to discredit great Mexican fighters no matter what! Ariza was called out by Roach for being shady and giving fighters "unknown substances". Roach's fighters have been caught for taking banned substances! Nonito Donaire hired and worked with Victor CONTE! HEREDIA'S BOSS! Hopkins has a 32 inch waist and he is legally considered a senior citizen! I think I read somewhere that he refused random drug testing! He is also dominating YOUNG GUYS. Lawls, you haters never try and discredit PED using cheats like Mosley, RJJ, Aaron Shake Pryor, James Toney, Lucas "it was just a vitamin before the fight" Mathysse, Lamont Peterson etc. What about Manny's head doubling in size? Going up weight divisions and not losing strength or power or endurance? Thick coarse skin! How about declining random drug tests because he was afraid of needles!? BUT HE HAS TATTOOS! Don't get me wrong, I would love for Marquez to explain the acne but, he is innocent until proven guilty! He has never tested positive.

[@josemezatorrez]

Facts.

[@rickjamez4987]

No athlete would ever take anything to make them better at something that could make them famous, earn them millions, gain them sponsors, and get them laid. Why would they do that? Makes zero sense. All sports are clean.

[@carlosbarboza6826]

You talking about Pacq?

[@olivherbangayan5144]

I think he is totally right he is telling the truth. He is more profesional that you guys.

[@JoeStunner]

Have to agree with Kellerman on this one. I've long been suspicious of not just Marquez and Pacquiao, but certain other fighters too. PEDs are a scourge that need to be blasted out of the sport.

[@blazer33x]

No God no not for the 5th time but who else do hbo have I guess

[@Aldiggy2000]

Max is a killer analyst. listen how he describes when boxers appear when they are trying to make weight 1:37 . He dissects things down to a science. He eats, sleeps, breathes and shits boxing. He knows his shit

[@deftrojan14]

I wish top rank and golden boy would come together on having their 140 lbs fighters facing each other. Marquez vs Garcia, Matthysse vs Provodnikov, Molina vs Bradley or Pacman against any of Golden Boys top fighters is a thousand times better than Jmm/Pac 5

[@Tukis2000]

Of course Juan is on that juice he has someone on his team that can mask the truth.

[@carlosbarboza6826]

PACQ on roids

[@thehomiericky101]

Yes Marquez has gotten bigger and there is more speculation on him since knocking down Marquez. But as far as all these accusations on Marquez about being faster that before is completely erroneous. First Marquez has always had great speed especially when he throws combinations. Look at fights between Terdsak Kokietgym, Juan Diaz, Katsidis, Fedchneko, most youngers dudes than marquez yet his speed outshines them and his ability to counter punch and throw combinations. Marquez is the small guy, with smaller reach so his speed or quickness more often than not should be faster or some what quicker than taller opponents. Not to mention Alvarado isn't spectacularity fast and infallible. On the rematch against Rios where he won, he wasn't fast and against Breidids Prescott he beat him fighting in the inside and again he looked slow as well getting beat in that fight up until the last round knocked down of Prescott. Mike A. isn't fast and has really slow feet. As far as acne and and Marquez getting stronger, he sweats a lot usually drains himself and wear tight close to lose weight, precursors of irritating skin. As far as strength in this fight he didn't look any bigger than before he actually looked way smaller than Alvarado, its just Mike got caught with a good right hand, no different from Bradley getting caught by a left hand by Manny. So all this assessments and indication of Marquez is not correct to say at this moment until proving other wise.

[@carlosbarboza6826]

Pacqroids

[@mountaindew3201]

Nobody at 40 can develop muscle mass in 3 months or even a year. He was on roids and covered in acne to proof it and not just any type of acne, the breakout that is caused by steroids 100% of the time

[@fatherandsons2386]

But we’re going to ignore Pacqiauo being juiced majority of his career. Very selective suspicion 😅

[@carlosb1]

WOW coming from Kellerman surprises me because he has always liked Marquez and is probably the only American who has talked awesome about Marquez. Kellerman don't be stupid you know that Marquez has always had a great punching power just look at all his past fights 40 KOs in his career.

[@jayr122001]

marquez is really suspicious cmon .... he changed a lot when he fought pacquiao the fourth fight..he is like a fucking MMA fighter his body is really different and his punches is really powerful..he even put manny down with one punch

[@BustahK]

I agree it sermed like he wasnt gttin hurt wen his face was all bloody

[@carlosbarboza6826]

Pacqs REALLY suspicious

[@MidnightRambler]

max u called out a cheat haha

[@phtrends2491]

Pacman never use steroids or drug ped. All of filipinod know that

[@VictorinoL42712]

All of Filipinos WANT to think that* but every fighter has used some sort of substance to get an edge, all of them, stop lying to yourself.

[@carlosbarboza6826]

He did use catchweight advantages and clauses

[@JohnSmith-ky2ej]

Marquez is showing signs of slowing down i think. He got dropped by Alvarado and almost got knocked down by Bradley.. I think he's getting older and isn't seeing punches coming as well so he's getting hit with shots he doesn't see and is getting hurt

[@Brazconj]

Ok no surprise here HBO only has Top Rank now so what else is Max going say about Pacquiao ?? Pacquiao vs Marquez 5 are you kidding me when will it end ?...

[@arnoldwayne5402]

LOL. for some reason, max kellerman seems to political for my liking. He dosent seem genuine at all when he talks and in some casest it sounds like everything coming out of his mouth is scripted.I guess what m trying to say is that he sounds phony.

[@vidz06]

That's exactly how I feel about him too like he is scripted to sway and manipulate casual fans with bullshit

[@mellow412]

I agree as well

[@Francis1989ers]

that's a journalist/broadcaster's background ..they practice to talk in front of everybody in most formal way they could ..also the public speakers/servants .. they should always appear as an intelligent person ..that's why their commentary were always patterned ..

[@arnoldwayne5402]

Kellerman just sounds obnoxious to me

[@arnoldwayne5402]

Yeah, but for some reason kellerman seems more artificial tghan the other journalists ive see. Thats just me

[@jacknapier7024]

Let’s not pick and choose now, if we’re gonna say Marquez we gotta say Pacquiao too

[@stevencarr7605]

Pacquaio was the one who refused blood testing for the longest

[@carlosbarboza6826]

Im afraid of needles he would say

[@rockyesposito7051]

I like Max, he makes watching HBO watchable. Jim Lampley is too biased, Max calms him down. In regards to Marquez and PEDs... Listen, is he the only one who warrants suspicion? I like Pacquaio, but an argument can be made he has not knocked out anyone in years because he is off PEDs. Personally, I hope no fighter uses PEDs. To me, that is even worse then loaded gloves because now you have a MUCH stronger opponent, in much better condition who can hurt someone really bad.

[@carlosbarboza6826]

Then why pacquiao didnt demand blood work? Answer this question

[@jaycrew6967]

Kellerman must be tall cause radio Raheem is about 6-1.

[@ANDRES77]

SUSPICIOUS, SUSPICIOUS…AUDIENCE, T.V. SHOWS… Show some EVIDENCE, and stop talking just because you have a microphone and a big mouth!!! Is not about nationalities or races, is about sport and honesty. If they test them, and find something in Marquez, Pacquiao or any other fighter or sportsman, then authorities and the commission have to act according to the rules. But, come on T.V. reporters, don't try just to appear on screen without any valid argument… PROVE what you say and show some EVIDENCE.

[@balaycebu9261]

Try to watch Marquez vs alvarado

[@Scarface193448]

You can't say theres no proof pac is on roids and then say marquez is on roids just because of memo. Thats not proof either. Remember freddie roach he was james toneys trainer while he was on roids so...

[@JuanMartinez-yu1ln]

OR Bernard older then Marquez? no talk about Bernard? come on!!!

[@RipAli]

Pacroid vs Marquez 5??!?!? Dafuq out of here!

[@smithn9372]

Peolple talking shit about Max but its not his fault there is a cold war going on. With the limited options for Pacquiao its only right he sells the fifth fight with Marquez

[@CherubRock311]

Not good. Marquez on Riods? I loved the fight....i love how marquez fights at the elite level......but heredia is just not good for boxing....wish marquez used a dufferent s&c coach so there is no controversy. This heredia driven marquez easily beats nayweather in a rematch....why not follow that path instead of narquez pac5? Heredia can beat USADA

[@josemezatorrez]

BUT PACQUIAO HIRED 3 PED COACHES, SO WHY CANT JMM HIRE ONE PED COACH.

[@carlosbarboza6826]

Alex Ariza isnt good either the man turned manny into supersayan

[@caseybyrom1]

I wouldn't be surprised if all top boxers use some kid of PED. I sure as hell wouldn't want to be in the ring with someone who was if I wasn't, that's probably the mentality they have.

[@aplussoldiers5703]

If Marquez is on PEDs so is Mayweather and Hopkins simple as that. ''Oh Floyd doesnt get knockouts so he is not on peds". But Floyds to smart to knock people out so he wins by decision so there no suspicion and hopkins

[@carlosbarboza6826]

Pacq roids a cheat disgrace

[@leom4932]

It's obvious the great marquez is using steroids just look at his body shape his whole career nd look at it now on his last 3 fights irs stupid for ppl to defend the guy

[@carlosbarboza6826]

Pacqroids

[@pfdad1]

Pacquiao Marquez 5 would be who's Ped use was put to better use..that's all An eye for an eye

[@mattthomas6981]

give it up for juan and memo for being in terrific strength and condition this is why a fighter hires a s&c coach to elavate and/or maintain his attributes a trainer should use every "legal" metod to increse his clients energy

[@carlosbarboza6826]

Lil flyweight is koed in Asia 3 times but yrs later hooks up with Alex Ariza and plays with welters? 🤔 besides abusing of catchweight advantages and clauses?

[@dotadazzle593]

I will go to hell if I said Marquez didn't use PED's. Remember Pacquiao is a God fighter TBE you can only defeat him if you cheat to him.

[@carlosbarboza6826]

@@dotadazzle593 the God of Abraham Isaac and Israel is my God.

[@britishrock1903]

Freddie Roach and american invented that...usa boxers really never beat pacquiao

[@mayam7912]

Envy that is all.

[@1detarrednu]

Marquez got juiced up by Angel Heredia, so fcking obvious.

[@richardanthonyperez]

LiquidTechnique couldn't have said it any better myself!

[@carlosbarboza6826]

Pacquiaos?

[@carlosbarboza6826]

Pacquiaos?

[@_stval2839]

any body with ability can look very good against alvarado

[@margot9230]

Face facte if Marquez was on drugs he would be in front of the commission.......

[@oswaldoflores7702]

Hease Juan Manuel Márquez the Best .

[@abcdaw22]

Juan MarqRoid

[@GhostDogBlackTR5]

As far Pacquiao is concerned I think his decline as a fighter is very apparent. And I know fighters from Thailand and the Philippines that juice. As a matter of fact it's very common practice for fighters in Southeast Asia to do so.. Don't get me wrong I'm not hating. As a matter of fact I'm an advocate for performance enhancing drugs. But if your dirty your dirty..

[@a.c.8524]

Now people are thinking that Pacs decline in power is a sign of steroids usage. That's pretty ridiculous considering it's only natural to lose speed and power as you get older. What's unnatural is getting one punch KO power when your'e old as fuck and started working with a known Steroid dealer and snitch.

[@keverinkarama]

Bro, Americans invented PED's and a whole lot of Americans use them - does that mean Mayweather Jr. is on the PED's too?

[@keverinkarama]

***** He's still fast though. Like Marquez. At their age? Plus he's been using those xylocane drugs that are only legal in the state of Nevada so he can numb his brittle hands. So why wouldn't he use PED's to help him out?

[@GhostDogBlackTR5]

Alvin Cortez You loose your power last. Your speed and reaction time go first.

[@keverinkarama]

***** Yeah those PED's make him more athletic and quick to facilitate those boxing skills, specially at his age. Like Marquez. And the xylocane helps Floyd numb the pain out from his brittle hands.

[@dltguitar6532]

Marquez' roid use puts an asterisk on his otherwise great career

[@CherubRock311]

Marquez is a cheater

[@13rataclan]

so is hopkins on stereoids... is mayweather and paquiao as well because they all look better as time passes...... so why work hard in the gym if all that is worthless to people like kellermen who rarely trains as hard as a beginner boxer,,,,

[@leom4932]

Marquez has fought the best out there for almost 20 years even if someone's thinks he is using illegal substances it doesn't matter we alll know he can fight no matter what

[@divinesense]

Fuck Pac vs Marquez 5... moving on...

[@REBOYMAGBANUA-ur6cv]

Its about peds peds. And peds... Hahaha

[@Puro-Nuevo-Leon]

Hopkins paquiao mayweather are in ped toooo

[@ju_mappelle_le_blu_sacre]

BIG MAX!!!!!! :)

[@godblesseveryone9201]

needle juice marquez

[@carlosbarboza6826]

Pacqroids

[@carlosbarboza6826]

Pacqroids

[@BigoeWekzer]

Man, just because marquez drinks piss does not mean he is on steroids!!

[@josepacheco9888]

Comment section funny here they say that Marquez is on the juice and when Pacquiao goes to fight some other goes they also say he was on the juice so looks like both of them were on the juice, maybe Pacquiao was already on the juice, and then Marquez just even things up on the fourth fight 😂😂😂😂 stop it guys please

[@Jaem-ml4lx]

everybody takes steroids

[@balaycebu9261]

No. They have ramdom testing. Pacquaio only the complete drug licensed in America.while Marquez has no license.

[@DaveN80]

Manny Pacquiao is and has been on the clean fighters program done by vada. That means he can be tested 365 randomly. Even Floyd didn’t do that

[@sam192401]

will you stop arguing people. if marquez was realy on ped's and pcman was too, then let them have it and put a fight of the century performance in Marquez vs Pacquiao 5..............can't wait.Who do you think is going to die? hahaha

[@ChrisadventureTV08]

Morales said. TO Marquez ,heredia contioning. .mexican pharmacy is Better😂😂😂. Thats the clue

[@aplussoldiers5703]

Marquez doesn't care what Americans think. Because in the end Mexicans go to his fights.. Yelling and cheering "Marquez . Marquez . Marquez" unlike Americans who boo mayweather ( an american fixed fighter)

[@Nstrumentalist1986]

your spot on on mayweather being booed. i went to the weigh in with him and maidana. fans were cheering "TMT" as if they were in it, like groupies. very few argentines were there but there cheers roared chanting "olay olay olay olay chino chino". I aslo found out that mayweather bought alot of tickets himself to give to his so called family and friends. i know for sure cause i was standing in line right next to pretty much all of them. i said to my they act way to ghetto and obnoxious to afford thousands of dollars of ticketprices to attend this event.

[@jamesa6494]

So because JMM had the edge in speed against a come forward brawler in Alvarado, it means he's getting faster with age??? GTFO, Kellerman is using Pactard logic on this one. In his prime, JMM threw lighting fast combinations. He's clearly gotten slowed down with age, which is why he now stands and trades and sits on his punches more often than before.

[@boxingmonthly]

MARQUEZ TBE. AND I PREDICTED THE PACBOY KO!!

[@adrianmagadia4237]

Thanks to memo heredia for cheating pacquaio hahaha shame on you mexicanss.

[@flinze2001]

Pacman himself has been being quite after the 4th fight with JMM.But manny and his camp knew that they faced another level of JMM.They said there's no unusual thing with JMM camp training on that fight and they would rather say the other previous fights were JMM trained harder compare to the 4th fight.The final conclusion after the fight was, "where the hell that power came from?".But anyway a true champion and true fighter no alibi or excuses about that even though we knew since from the beginning that manny's immune power is more dominant than marquez which you can tell that marquez performance had strangely changed from his last fights afterwards.Now that's you can tell and have the right to accuse an old guy getting faster, stronger,bulky and broader shoulder with highly symptoms of red spots on his back and chest. so what's your opinion?

[@josemezatorrez]

Pac hired 3 ped coaches, weird that before he hired them he was getting KTFO by Manila taxi drivers. Very supsect. And pac admitted to using meth speed balls.

[@fhab525]

so its ok to accuse Marquez of juicing with no proof but not Pacquiao...

[@shaylinmonk9208]

Um Manny did not hire a coach convicted by the supreme court of doping Athletes. Why are yall making it so complicated? MARQUEZ HIRED MEMO HEREDIA!!!! THE CHIEF CHEMIST OF BALCO FOR FUCKS SAKE!!!! The guy has fucking acne on his chest and on his back at 40 years of age despite never having it before. that's not adult acne. that's steroid acne. I havent even mentioned the fact that his body at 40 looks better than his body at 30 and he's suddenly developed one punch ko power. Where there is smoke, there is fire. In marquez case, he's on fire.?

[@perlitasantos2234]

Marqroidddddddd

[@carlosbarboza6826]

Pacqroids

[@amielsantos2898]

@@carlosbarboza6826marqroid you bum

[@REBOYMAGBANUA-ur6cv]

Jmm hired memo heredia for a god strenght like... Hahahaha cheater never wins..

[@carrotteeman4008]

Marquez is unbelievable,the only boxer who has done better with age is B.Hopkins.I put Marquez 3rd greatest mexican boxer all time,only behind Chavez & sanchez.

[@phtrends2491]

PED THE FIRST 3 FIGHTS OF MARQUEZ PACQUAO MARQUEZ CANT KO PACQUIAO WHEN MARQUEZ PACQUIAO FIGHTS HIS BODY LIKE A HULK.

[@carlosbarboza6826]

Superman Pacquiao koed in Asia 3 times but yrs later hooks up with alex ariza and toys with welters

[@carlosbarboza6826]

Supersayan Manny?