Max/MSP tutorial: Making a transient designer in Gen~

[@simongoetz4468]

This is already mindblowing, and it will be my first real attempt in gen~. You've made this so approachable. Thank youuuuu

[@EdwardStumpp_Music]

This was so incredibly helpful, I cannot thank you enough. I have been trying for the last few weeks to make a consistent transient detection and I have to admit that I found gen~ to be pretty intimidating. After watching this I feel a lot more confident and plan to study it more. Again, thank you

[@ersatz_ben]

You're so welcome!

[@markparfitt]

Incredibly useful and informative. Thank you.

[@jacksteal5991]

very interesting. comparing your implementation to Transient Master it seems the latter does things a little differently then. With Attack and Sustain knobs being perhaps a blend of attack/sustain time + focus value. Or perhaps the attack/sustain time are fixed and the smooth button is just a per-determined increase for both to make it react slower. Overall I think your implementation is more flexible.

[@ersatz_ben]

Yes I think you’re right. It’s always a trade-off between flexibility and ease of use. I do really like Transient Master tbf, I think they dialled in the controls really nicely

[@jacksteal5991]

@@ersatz_ben I like it too but these days my go to simple transient shaper is Kilohearts' one. I love the pump parameter. I am planning to copy your implementation and add the pump knob. Thanks again for your inspiring video

[@patchesinblue]

Brilliant! One of the best examples of what max/msp gen can do. Could you share a bit on your process of figuring out what needs to be done, algorithmically or DSP wise? Say for example, figuring out that an accum object could handle the short term less than 1 values to create a hold time and smooth out the impulses.

[@ersatz_ben]

Thanks v much! There’s a really good book called Generating Sound and Organizing Time by Wakefield and Taylor - it is basically a dedicated gen~ cookbook and covers lots of the core concepts for working in gen~. I highly recommend it. The trick with the accum operator was my way of trying to emulate the count~ object in Max, which can be used to very precisely measure elapsed time. (Accum is covered in chapter 2 of the book!)

[@davidcooper8241]

wow, this is brill - you've persuaded me i need to learn some gen

[@henriquematias1986]

Very nice and well put together! Thank you!

[@ldmdesign5610]

Thanks for sharing. Trying to use with guitar notes is predictably not as accurate. it doesn't pick up the transients right at the start, I found it needs a bit of processing first to boost the signal, but still managed to get it working with the right parameter values and amp beforehand.

[@ersatz_ben]

It can help to remove some bass from the signal first :)

[@kons7227]

am running with a similar problem, would be glad about some shared thoughts on that preprocessing.

[@TaylorBrookMusic]

great video - been obsessing over gen recently

[@Onokio]

so very informative, thank you for the explanations, clear and concise.

[@Belquer]

Wonderful, just wonderful!

[@mariapaula3376]

Brilliant!

[@p__meyer]

gorgeous

[@PeaceDub]

Very good this! Thank u

[@runner0075]

much interesting

[@machinate]

>. (The idea is that all the cash you've spent on a RNBO license will actually save you money in the long run 😉) ...I love the copium here, hah. I will need heavy convincing to start using RNBO just for personal projects. ...but mainly I just can't afford it rn, heh.

[@p__meyer]

if you patch in gen~ then you can wait a while before you buy rnbo! because whenever you eventually do, you just drop your gen~ patches into rnbo~, hook up some [param]s, and done!!

[@vardanhovakimyan7633]

👍👍👍👍👍👍