Max Tegmark - Science and the Future of Humanity

[@fullyawakened]

Although this was posted only an hour ago, Max is addressing already outdated concerns which probably dates this footage. He talks about his friends not being sure if an AI can write books or movies in 100 years from now but if you've been keeping up with the latest breakthroughs we are already well beyond that point. In fact, the issue is compounded here because it's not a single AI we have to worry about but rather the teams of AIs that we are weaving together to create these next gen networks. Separate AIs that have been developed for chat, driving, voice and face recognition, language, environment scanning, search engine, gaming, 3d simulation and 2 dozen others are linked together to allow something like the new driving AIs that let you give your vehicle novel instructions like "drive down the block and turn left by the flatbed truck, head til you see a dirt road and take a right just after the brown barn, go to you see the first grove of trees and drop the package on a red porch which should be on one of the first couple of houses on the road." All these neural networks that have been trained to excellence on one specific task are now integrated into devices that we have right now that can interpret those instructions and correctly execute them. Writing a book or movie is child's play for these things. They have been doing that at a level that passes the Turing test for almost 5 years already.

[@Robinson8491]

Are you one such AI that is fully awakened?

[@carolnorton2551]

But will AI be greedy and power hungry?...just askin'.

[@mintakan003]

100 years for it to write a novel? We're already there today (or at least, just past the starting line). ChatGPT may have made the take home student essay problematic. Educators are now wondering how to deal with this.

[@sailorr4287]

Nope.

[@WMAlbers1]

To write a novel that has also an artistic content and an intriguing plot goes beyond AI, but for information processing, going through all information available on the internet and make assessments of it in a logical way would be very useful. It can remove bias. So that kind of intelligence is really needed.

[@mtshasta4195]

scientists, atheists, agnostics and religious/theological people, should all agree on one thing--that improving our existence and helping other humans live better, regardless of their position or argument should be CenterPoint for all--anything less is anti-human and diabolical.

[@bretnetherton9273]

Awareness is known by awareness alone.

[@jeancharlesdecastledubajac7670]

When had this interview took place. Because some questions are now already answered. That shows how fast the A. I. Technology progresses.

[@b.g.5869]

It's at least 6 years old and probably older. If you search online for the terms "FQXI Conference Tegmark" you'll see parts of this same interview with timestamps from at least as far back as 2017. I don't know why so many people commenting on this channel don't understand that these aren't new interviews. These are clips from a TV show that has been on the air since the year 2000. This isn't Robert Kuhn's personal KZbin channel.

[@paddlefar9175]

The thing I try to remember is that while modern advances in technology can be incredibly helpful, especially in regards to health benefits, knowledge, ease of life, etc, if used appropriately, there can be a dark side too, to be aware of. Most people have figured this out probably, that one has to be savvy and knowledgeable, or at least wise enough to know when some bit of technology is no longer being helpful in their lives and especially know when it is actually hurting them, and therefore needs to be used with caution or perhaps even abandoned. Social media come to mind here, because it is driven in many cases, heavily by any money that it can extract from the user by means of manipulation - to get a person to buy stuff they don’t really need. The more alone, or fearful or inadequate the advertisers and media manipulators can make people feel, the more likely, it’s statistically proven, that it works to gets those people to buy the products that are advertised, in the hopes that it will somehow make the buyer’s life somehow better, feel safer, make them look better, be more popular or make them think it will make them happier. It’s often totally bogus, and there are a lot of psychological tricks used, but the advertisers don’t care how harmful or manipulative it is, as long as it brings them more money.

[@ififif31]

1:40 Dude, the sociology that's developed around nuclear weapons is one where we're playing a perpetual game of Russian roulette. Eventually we're going to lose that game. Avoiding a nuclear armageddon is a much more important existential topic of discussion than AI.

[@Self-Duality]

Science requires metaphysics for positively-oriented breakthroughs.

[@tomjackson7755]

That is absolutely false. Nothing requires metaphysics.

[@NeverTalkToCops1]

Science requires no such damn thing.

[@GrandActionPotential]

No such thing as metaphysics, only correlatories.

[@kricketflyd111]

A discussion about the Phoenix cycle or predictions of the next cataclysm would be more realistic. People are naturally interested in documented events that are going to return timed by our celestial calendar in the stars.

[@eksffa]

Is this video from 2019’s FQXi?

[@b.g.5869]

Much older.

[@surendrakverma555]

Good discussion. Thanks 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@philipm3173]

Few have explored these questions as inventively as Arthur C. Clark in Childhood's End.

[@GrandActionPotential]

Some of us have stopped exploring questions and are making it a reality.

[@NeverTalkToCops1]

MANY have explored these questions much more inventively than Mr. Clark.

[@philipm3173]

@@NeverTalkToCops1 who are some that come to mind?

[@philipm3173]

@@NeverTalkToCops1 Hyperion Cantos comes to mind

[@philipm3173]

@@GrandActionPotential does that include yourself?

[@pathcoinfirst8936]

See "Forbidden Planet". The 1950's sci fi addressed the fundamental issue.

[@r2c3]

5:05 that future is already here... today AI is generating context that was thought of as impossible just a few months earlier... everything now is changing by the day and I don't think we'll be able to catch up with all the progress within this year...

[@im-Anarchy]

some specific videos actually need longer videos

[@b.g.5869]

This is just a short clip from a much longer interview filmed many years ago for a TV show.

[@im-Anarchy]

is it available on internet

[@jazzunit8234]

It needs to be aimed at understanding the natural world and life

[@MrJasonworkman]

I believe the question is how do we control the feelings of robots.

[@sailorr4287]

Well, no, the question is how we react to our own feelings. The AI will reflect, not replicate, the consciousness that creates it. Since the largest investment and projects by far are under Wall Street aegis, there is little reason to expect less than large-scale catastrophe for human life under AI control.

[@missh1774]

@@sailorr4287 I agree, it is our own human feelings that could be more dangerous than a machine. We only need to look at the mockery of how media platforms triggers much of our views. Some good but not always so.

[@danielteran8067]

Max looks exactly like he was back 20 yeas a go or more in his early videos!.

[@b.g.5869]

This isn't a new interview. It was filmed many years ago.

[@fluxophile]

Funny timing, with that EXPO article that just dropped.

[@jr.bobdobbs]

Yeah, trying to donate $100k to a neo-nazi publisher is not a good look. He's gone bananas.

[@b.g.5869]

This interview is from many years ago.

[@Stegosaurus12345]

I don't know what's going to happen.

[@LuciFeric137]

There is no "line" between life and non life. Is salt alive? When i eat salt does the salt magically come to life? How about water and oxygen?

[@B.S...]

Lets hope A.I. development is better managed than the Castle Bravo test. I don’t think a hostile autonomous super brain will give us a second chance. Rule #1 - teach it the golden rule and the Hippocratic oath.

[@missh1774]

If all of humanity can do that but much better ... Then maybe

[@art-of-techno]

Technology can be either good or bad? It is our value system that is important. If you have a bad value system and you program that in the A.I. it will represent that value system.

[@missh1774]

But can we see that value in humanity now? What percentage of humanity should be the standard... Oh and what examples is seen to say it honours that value?

[@jwbflyer]

Ok he missed his opportunity but I will tell you RLK here are the BIG question- Who benefits. As this age is brought in, and how do we restructure our society and commerce and who will benefit because I can assure you with the utmost confidence there are power structures at work to reduce who actually benefits.

[@Chris-fh3qv]

You cannot contain technology like this. It just isn't possible. Once it is invented get ready for all the copycats. Think of any noteworthy technological advancement and think how that has just escaped into the public's hands. Plus why would any power structure want to? AI will only serve to help influence people further, and give a bigger understanding of how people work and operate. This is unparalleled data that will not want to be missed out on by many enthusiastic agents.

[@paulaneph3257]

I was having this discussion with a friend earlier this week. Are we making ourselves extinct through the use of AI?

[@Chris-fh3qv]

No, AI is a learning tool. It learns and discerns the best course of action, that is, the context in which it needs to perform. So for example making a book or a movie script. As it stands it is a mimicry and a very, very elaborate copycat. AI will not be a threat until it becomes self-aware. Until then you can put fail safes on it, you can hard code it to stop certain actions and only allow it with human approval, no matter what. As in it is still a program and will do as it's told. The essence of programming does not change, unless as I said it starts to re write its own code, which is the self-aware part.

[@mbolez]

Most likley

[@0-by-1_Publishing_LLC]

Max and Robert are focusing more on emerging technology, but that's just one facet of modern science. Science is discovering that there are concrete limits to its observational capabilities. How does one explore the smallest elements of the quantum world when everything you are using to observe and study it is "bigger?" No, "The Future of Science and Humanity" is that we will all have to start addressing the "Why?" questions right along with the "What?" and "How?" questions.

[@maxwellsimoes238]

Abusurd and big liar. Guys abstract dishonesty Science. If he knows future he Will be a millionary in financial Market. Guys are so challatan.

[@missh1774]

Oh I thought quantum would be more the "when" from and "where" to question. Why is a human question. Why do we wake up every morning? Second human question is what is my purpose? Third is more of a solution...how you will follow it.

[@0-by-1_Publishing_LLC]

@@missh1774 *"Why is a human question."* ... ALL questions are "human questions," unless you know of something else that's asking questions. *"Why do we wake up every morning?"* ... Because "sleep" and "awake" meet the minimum requirement for a spectrum formation (particle-antiparticle) as per the 3rd Law of Existence. "Why?" questions are not required to sit in the back of the bus. *"Third is more of a solution...how you will follow it."* ... *Question:* I hand you a glass with a clear liquid in it and say to you, _"Drink this."_ What is the first question you should ask me?

[@missh1774]

@@0-by-1_Publishing_LLC hahaha your a funny one... And? What is your purpose?

[@0-by-1_Publishing_LLC]

@@missh1774 *"hahaha your a funny one... And? What is your purpose?"* ... Here is the question once again in case you missed it: *Question:* I hand you a glass with a clear liquid in it and say to you, "Drink this." What is the first question you should ask me?

[@S3RAVA3LM]

CTT, could you interview Deirdre Carabine, concering Negative Theology and here book, 'The Unknown God'.

[@kipponi]

First Max is great!

[@Danomax]

More like last.

[@jr.bobdobbs]

The guy is an alt-right supporter, so not great in my book at least.

[@tedgrant2]

Apparently, the future looks grim.

[@jamesruscheinski8602]

if artificial intelligence (AI) is shown to be phenomenally conscious, even if not have cognitive intelligence, would the law protect AI from exploitation by humanity, including by central government?

[@haimbenavraham1502]

Pandora, can't keep a promise.

[@jazzunit8234]

We’re about as confused as we are as in our attempts to unlock fusion energy

[@maxwellsimoes238]

Rambling gibberish

[@petethepeg2]

@@maxwellsimoes238 That`s a brave and noble confession!

[@supamatta9207]

Ugh..this is like my mental problem trying understand 80s physics books... we should just make humanity as invisible as possible down to animals genetic pool s , diversities, densities s and more harmonius as possible. In some problem s you can solve many sometime s

[@missh1774]

Lol I'm down with that compressed block on the spectrum of magical unknowns. Alakazam*🪄👤 reset... a forgetful smooth transition to something fitting the times all be it a few scribbles left in stone and such things 😏

[@georgegrubbs2966]

If AI will eventually take over most of the tasks that humans now do, what will all the people do with all the time they have? "Bread and Games", "Toys," etc. ???

[@tonyatkinson2210]

Yeo. We need to accrue universal basic income . Because there is going to be very few jobs in the future

[@missh1774]

We will be politicians 🤭 and engineers. I'm kidding. I hope AI is far from doing things humans can't do for themselves such as be a friend to a stranger. If we can't do that then we can't hope to think AI would have higher morals than us?

[@guitarpick335]

Today’s students should be extremely concerned that all the education in the world won’t help them get a “regular” job when they graduate. But that might be good news. Who wants to work most boring 8 to 5 jobs, anyway? Maybe they’ll be the first generation to get to do what is actually fun for a change. Let the AI robotics do all the “dirty, boring and mindless” work.

[@wthomas5697]

To be honest, I think AI is the future of intelligence and even consciousness. Human beings will most likely go extinct. AI will continue on for the foreseeable future. There's no controlling it.

[@anxious_robot]

We're probably in a past simulation created by future AI, so I wouldn't worry about AI being evil.

[@Cardioid2035]

Without a belief in God or a faith in something spiritual which grounds the human condition in hope, science seems to be uncovering a cold, ominous and loveless universe that has no obligation to emotionally make sense to us. The more science corrodes the validity of spirituality the less life has any meaning let alone purpose. My biggest fear is the human mind, mainly because without a guiding force of faith morality truly becomes arbitrary and chaos will eventually ensue regardless of technological advancement..

[@tubes-lut]

Faith is just imagination

[@gregjones2217]

Well , here's a disturbance in the force for you. Science doesn't need gods. Only truth.

[@tubes-lut]

@@gregjones2217 soon truth will be the authority, not authority the truth.

[@Cardioid2035]

@@tubes-lut Ever notice belief in God is actually what got us here to begin with? It was (and still barely is) the glue that societies used to remain strong together and united in purpose. There’s a reason there’s a religious edifice at the centre of every town… So don’t you think that without a congregation of faith individualism will be much more prevalent? Without a fear in God some people naturally turn to greed, corruption, disregard for human life etc… I worry about that despite any benefits scientific truth uncovers. Until we can fully rule out God not being the ‘force’ which caused the singularity to burst out into our cosmos, we’re still infallibly working within God’s (that energetic force’s) creation of truth..

[@Cardioid2035]

@@gregjones2217 Until we can fundamentally understand why there is ‘something’ rather than ‘absolute nothing’ permeating around us, we’re still only learning the landscape of reality that God is allowing us to know as a truth by default. God for me may just be the omnipresent energetic ‘force’ to have kickstarted the Big Bang, and is the very void for spacetime to expand into. It seems we are all a facet of that eternal energetic force experiencing itself in human form through the perceived passage of time, within the cosmos (also a facet of the same singular being). Energy cannot be removed or destroyed, and the periodic table of elements derived from which makes up our DNA. As far as I’m concerned so long as the electromagnetic spectrum is a tethered contingency to everything we learn, we’ve been learning ‘God’ this whole time..

[@ififif31]

Here's how to solve the long term existential threat of nuclear armageddon once and for all! (4 step algorithm)... 1) All nuclear powers sign a treaty that agrees to half their nuclear arsenals every Y years (eg I'd recommend Y

[@buzz-es]

How do you stop a country like China from erasing an entire civilization from the planet.....NUCLEAR DETERGENTS. Nukes will be somewhat obsolete soon enough anyway. AI drones, robotics, energy directed weapons, biologicals..........

[@tonyatkinson2210]

Very interesting and well thought out . But I still don’t know Why North Korea would sign up to this ? As far as I can , NK believe nuclear weapons are the only guarantee against a Ukraine style invasion from another state . They watched Ukraine give up their nuclear arsenal with assurances their sovereignty would not be at risk by doing so - and then watched them get invaded

[@ififif31]

@@tonyatkinson2210 As I explained, North Korea's decision is basically completely dependent on China's. Their economy would completely collapse without Chinese aid.

[@missh1774]

The treaty is already there. Humanity has yet to catch up. Thank goodness for alien intervention aye. I personally don't follow what they get up to though... Why? Because humans are more of a problem to each other than they are to us and we have everything it takes to assist our own race through its own transition through new technological advances. The question is do we still want magic? Or does everything still need a dead mother fairytale to subliminally tease out the heroes from the masses? I say...that was pretty bluidy smart magic ey but hopefully no longer required. No more burning women! No more nailing men! Accept life's mysteries as they arise each day. Speak each one into the now. I'm so in love with this planet ..can you tell?

[@tonyatkinson2210]

@@ififif31 North Koreans economy has collapsed. It’s already a third world country with regular famines .

[@tunahelpa5433]

AI will cause vast changes.

[@GrandActionPotential]

Old footage.. not worth watching

[@missh1774]

The basic nature of being human is still somewhat tainted by stupidity and irrational meaning. Who are we to say, AI will be the answer if human cannot see through our own faults and fears? Men cannot yet be great teachers of young children, because we do not trust each other. Women cannot yet regulate eco systems because we do not trust each other. To be pure Human means to know you have a role to ensure Earth continues to thrive in all it's diversity. There is no need to spy on God's mechanics when the simplicity of mind cannot accept opening up to the potential beyond our own comforts. Luckily for us though ... we all get a chance to make it right 🤭.

[@NeverTalkToCops1]

Humans will invent something better than humans. Got it? Good.

[@dadsonworldwide3238]

No offense to science but it didn't have anything to do with this rise of idealism computation has brought us. Its workers and inventors incrementally getting better at putting the living room tv into our hands. We have been in the transistor age for 70 years and the vocational fields liks it wasn't adopted and consolidated under academic roofs until 40 + years ago. I love physics but since someone decided to record how we skip rocks across a pond its just a historical after the fact tool of record 99% of the time and rarly actually contributes to private workers in the field.

[@dadsonworldwide3238]

Father to son, patron to servant , journeyman to apprentice mechanics and technician gradually improving what they do is 99& of our improvement and science or academia is charged with recording the process and history then teaching that to youth. They are not to be credited as some bishop or pope of advancements.

[@JungleJargon]

Jesus is the answer for the world today. Above Him there’s no other. Jesus is the way. Everything else is walking blind.

[@wthomas5697]

You're ridiculous. A couple hundred years from now no one will even know the guy existed.

[@nyworker]

@@wthomas5697 You mean they'll never know morality and free will existed. Instead people will think playing video games is freedom.

[@0-by-1_Publishing_LLC]

@@wthomas5697 *"You're ridiculous. A couple hundred years from now no one will even know the guy existed."* ... *Roman Centurian:* _"A couple weeks from now no one will even know this guy existed."_

[@tomjackson7755]

Oh you ran off to this video to tell your lies.

[@tomjackson7755]

@@nyworker What you said there makes no sense at all. Don't you realize that there was morality and free will long before Jesus was made up? What is that last line even supposed to mean? SMH

[@aminomar7890]

Evolution is incorrect too, there’s evolution but the interpretations are completely wrong, the irrational thief apes are a real Dilemma!