Max Verstappen's struggle is real

Max Verstappen's tussles with the FIA and others could be another example of why he resembles the career of Germany's Michael Schumacher.
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Is Max Verstappen the new Michael Schumacher? In this video, we compare Verstappen's aggressive driving style and controversial tactics to those of the legendary Schumacher, highlighting the striking similarities that are shaping his career. With insights from F1 veterans Damon Hill and Martin Brundle, we discuss the concerns around Verstappen's legacy and how his on-track behavior could impact the way he's remembered in the sport. As Verstappen faces intense scrutiny, especially from the British media, we consider whether he's becoming the new "villain" of Formula 1 and how this narrative is playing out in the battle for the 2024 Championship against Lando Norris.
Verstappen’s approach to racing-where penalties seem like minor setbacks in his quest for victory-mirrors Schumacher's ruthless determination to win at all costs. We look at the influence Schumacher had on Verstappen’s career and examine how this might be driving his current decisions on the track. From the media's portrayal to the historical context of aggressive F1 champions like Senna and Prost, we question what it truly means to be a world champion in Formula 1 today. Is Verstappen's willingness to push the boundaries a sign of greatness or a potential stain on his record? Join the conversation and let us know what you think about the evolving legacy of Max Verstappen.
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[@LawVS]

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[@Vincrand]

I'm scared of heights.

[@I_Am_The_Devils_Advocate]

0:12 Yeah, I agree - Verstappen _is_ a bit of a 🍆, and sometimes he gets a little spicy and is a 🌶️. Either way, he's always a *_vegetable._*

[@F1SCR007]

I have said it once i have said 100 times. Verstappen is talented. But like Schumacher and Senna they will always be remembered for their over aggression If you have to take out your opponent to win a championship. Or push them Off track to pass or stop them passing You do not deserve to be a champion I like hard wheel to wheel racing. But wheel to wheel crashing I would go watch demolition derby. Its way cheaper Its F1. The pinnacle of motorsport. Its should be the pinnacle of drivers

[@katv1195]

Biggest evidence of the effect of British bias ... the Belgian-British Lando Norris driving under a British licence because he knows he'd get further in the sport that way. (While Thai-Brit Albon is using a Thai licence because F1 wants more pull in Asia)

[@F1SCR007]

@@katv1195 What are you smoking Norris is English ( British ) and was born in England. The dutch chappie who is actually Belgian is who you should direct that too And Albon is Thai. He has dual nationality because of his parents Why do people always make up some conspiracy if the dont like or know the truth

[@IAmKry]

I think Max's willingness to push it up and sometimes past the limit is a large reason I became a fan of his.

[@emchenderson717]

Exactly!!

[@Don_Pebble]

I totally agree, I’m only 18 but when I was a kid and watching Micheal Schumacher race and watching Max do similar things in his attitude is refreshing it feels like you’re watching the 2000s again.

[@paulhodgetts1803]

Show me any footage of senba or Schumacher going all four wheels off the track to push another car even further wide, I've watched since Nigel mansell drove for Ferrari and can honestly say no other driver I've watched has come close to max' so dirty tricks, I defended him for season after season but he's got worse, it's like nobody has the right to overtake him, that was never the case with senna, yes he crashed into prost, but at low speed and because in the previous race prost took him out! You obviously have not seen much of senna or Schumacher, just using the few times they overstepped the mark to justify max's many. It's almost every race.

[@IAmKry]

@@paulhodgetts1803 Watched the same races as you bud. Crazy how people can have different opinions lol

[@pimpinmagicianofprophecy]

Max should keep his edge. Look what happened to seb after he lost his edge.

[@russianmegabot5272]

Very good point

[@russianmegabot5272]

Excellent Point. Vettel is a Joke now

[@russianmegabot5272]

Stop shadowbanning me KZbin. It's Just fricking annoying at this point

[@DjDolHaus86]

He became loved?

[@pimpinmagicianofprophecy]

​@@russianmegabot5272i can see all of your comments sir

[@TheMaghorn]

I remember it was just a year ago people were praising Max's ruthlessness as one of the reasons why he was able to dominate the field while his title competitors like Charles and Checo comparatively lacked it, and we can't ignore Lewis' willingness to throw hands during his domination era that often ended with similar situations to what we're seeing now. Calling Max out when Lando's on the receiving end of that ruthlessness is nothing less than hypocritical.

[@mikolaygrudzien8764]

its british bias

[@merijnfluitman5761]

The public opinion changed when Max challenged for and won the title against Lewis. He was already portrayed as the bad guy by DTS, tainting the public opinion. But Lewis, Toto, and Mercedes launched a very effective media assault on Max's character during the 2021 season. Sky got on board and have doubled down over time

[@bonifacelukosi9580]

@@mikolaygrudzien8764Lewis never got the support Lando is getting now. There’s more to it than just national bias.

[@smeshfactory3992]

​@@merijnfluitman5761What charachter? He's been called Crashstappen ever since he joined F1. Stopped pretending Max is some kind of victim in all this. You Max fans reminds me of Israelis the eternal victims.

[@nostooge]

Cough, cough bull**it.

[@adrian3355w]

Drivers call Max dangerous, yet wouldn't mind going up against him and being in Lando's position... He won't make it easy for Lando, and also - why should he? Max is on his way to win his 4th. Senna and Schumacher did the same.... Damon Hill is still sad that Schumacher demolished him.

[@yousawnothing4427]

And boy is Hill still seething about being outclassed by Schumacher

[@valerierodger]

He shouldn’t make it easy for Lando or anyone else. He also shouldn’t be pushing somebody off track just because he can’t beat him on a track.. And maybe you should go back and take a look at what happened to Schumacher when the FIA got set up with his unsportsmanlike behaviour

[@Maruman_man]

Kamikaze fraudstappen style driving isn't pushing to the limit...

[@lux_moto]

@@Maruman_man Oh you sad little man. You have no clue how the world works, throw a tantrum, use some lame insults, and then think your comment means anything. Why are you so bitter? What did this guy ever do to you?

[@AnotherJoe]

Max never asked to be compared to anyone. Not to Senna, not to Schumacher. Hardly Max's fault. He is his own person as were these 2 legends.

[@MIEJ4]

Yes he could never be as good as any of them.

[@talkietime6856]

@@MIEJ4 Nonsense dipshit.

[@GloomGaiGar]

@@MIEJ4 Same goes for your favorite driver.

[@shaun0110]

@@MIEJ4 2023 season would like a word and Cry about it british pissant

[@hamizonharris5992]

😂😊😂are you guys jealous?

[@kugsyy]

Next year max will be a lot calmer in terms of on track battles but his team will be copping a mouthful of community service words if they don’t get their act together. This could be max’s last chance of winning another championship at Red Bull so he will do whatever he can to win, which will make the last couple races enthralling

[@LawVS]

Which is why I reckon Papa Stroll will be getting his best people on the case to get Max for 2026.

[@kugsyy]

@@LawVSAston Martin is the only team in f1 that can offer verstappen what ever he wants. Money, Newey, Team orders and limited media sessions

[@myvishan]

@@LawVSonly if Stroll fires Jr, otherwise I don’t think Lance would like that.

[@arjunnair8037]

​@myvishan if he doesn't like that, let him quit by himself. I guess that's what ultimately everyone, including Lawrence wants anyway.

[@TheMrakic]

if he not going to have the best car, you can dream about him being calmer. he is calm when he is 1st and 20sec ahead. bit of pressure and he crubles

[@dergrunepunkt]

FYI: I'm Argentinian (and no!, I'm not anti-brit, I have a brain) and back in 2021 used to watch F1TV "world" broadcast which is the Brit one, because Damon and Martin Brudle where in it, and I thought "it cannot get any better than this" and it was unbearable british-biased. I don't fault them for that, it's pretty normal to be biased towards your own country, but for those non-brits, eventually you get fed-up.

[@GuelermeDias]

i mean being anti-brit is using your brain, not even because of the malvinas but

[@givemeabreak8784]

People remember Senna as on of the best. He was a ruthless driver on the track as well as Michael Sumaccher and will collide on purpose with others if challenged if you remember. Max will be remembered as well.

[@sheezle3]

Yes. I was never a fan of Michael when he was racing. I have to admit I have tremendous respect for him now (and not because of the accident). In F1 greatness sometimes requires being a pos on track. Just look at the teams - all they do is try to cheat, it's a race of who will get away with what. And we expect the drivers to behave? It's part of the sport, always was. Having said that, people like Briatore should be banned forever

[@averageenjoyer1930]

Google Ayrton Senna 15, to learn more about his ruthless driving styles.

[@JustSomeDinosaurPerson]

@@averageenjoyer1930 Senna fans always love to leave out that part. Between Senna wanting to hook up with a 15 year old and Hamilton hanging out with P. Diddy all the time, it is hilarious that Michael Schumacher is the one that turns out to have been a genuinely wonderful person outside the track.

[@slayer1156]

You don't get to the top without stepping on some toes

[@valerierodger]

@@JustSomeDinosaurPerson cut the BS. Hamilton had dinner with P. Diddy once many years ago and had his picture taken with P. Diddy at Met Gala.

[@frusci.t]

Max was really smart to slow Lando down, yeah he got the penalties for it but if he doesn't do that he finishes P4 and Lando would've definitely won the race, which would've cut the difference by 13 points instead 10. For Lando sake he better qualify far ahead of Max in the next races, I'm telling you Verstappen is NOT gonna play nice when he's in such a weaker machine under him. Attacking is his only chance to keep the lead, and it's exactly what Senna/Schumacher would've done too.

[@ochoymedio78]

exactly

[@Ryzard]

Fr. Everyone worships older champs, but they would HATE THEM today lol

[@jeremiahheaven1941]

​@@RyzardPeak Schumacher would be a demon

[@LSB001]

You wouldn't be saying it was smart if Lando refused to yield, and Max got a 50 point penalty for intentionally causing a collision to benefit in the championship.

[@GloomGaiGar]

@@LSB001But Lando DID yield because Max knows he will so your point is pretty meaningless considering reality itself has moved on. Max's penalties would mean nothing for his championship if Lando DNFs anyway so Lando will ALWAYS choose survival.

[@vinsanje]

OK let's see about the British media's history in this sport just in the last 3 decades portraying bad guys Schumacher Alonso Raikkonen Massa Rosberg Vettel Verstappen Anytime when some other nationality driver challenges British drivers then they are bad, dirty, cunning, misusing the rules, cheater etc

[@VACatholic]

Well those guys aren't explicit satanists like Hamilton.

[@csbr75]

Brits when a racer isn't brit: _oye, back to the 1600s_

[@deonoctober1398]

@vinsanje i agree 💯

[@alx.972]

The funny part about Massa is that Hamilton entered 5 times into him in 2011 and none of british journalists have ever talked about that … I don t know how much hate Massa would have been given even today after 7 years since his retirement if he would have done this to Hamilton

[@FormulaProg]

Rent free in your mind by the sounds of it

[@kenseiization]

The Brazilian champions went through the same thing, Emerson Fittipaldi and Piquet when racing against Jackie Stewart and Mansell respectively, the British media was not very kind to them.

[@vennemans9113]

Its not the British Media. Its just the British in general. They just cry.

[@astroterf.]

You're correct! They did, I started watching in the late 70's and our media have always been horrendous They were awful about Schumacher and they've been even worse about Max

[@astroterf.]

​@vennemans9113 lol nope I'm British and my favourite drivers of all time have been Senna, Schumacher, Alonso and Max There are quite a lot of us who don't support Lewis/Lando etc or bow to all the BS our media spew out

[@frankbieser]

I think Brundle's and Hill's hand wringing over "legacy" is not really important. As you pointed out, all of the great WDC driver's did "border line" things to win their championships. And over time, those things are forgotten, but the record of wins and championships is what lasts. But the most important question that tends to be ignored by the commentariat is, are the fans entertained? I found both the Austin and Mexican GPs very entertaining. When the drivers drive "cleanly" and like "gentlemen" are when fans complain how boring the races are. Racing is an entertainment. The pushing of the limits of the car and the rules is what makes for greatness. And when you look across other sports, this is still true. Max will be remembered long after Hill and Brundle are forgotten precisely because he is willing to do what it takes to win.

[@MIEJ4]

Kind of agree, but it’s annoying people whining about everyone talking about it when that’s the only thing that happens after these type of incidents.

[@valerierodger]

LOL no nobody has forgotten the dirty driving of previous championships - maybe newer fans aren’t aware of them, but it absolutely comes up in discussion, including KZbin videos made discussing the controversial moves - and the penalties that cost drivers championships as a result. Having the fans be entertained is not the most important question. The priority must be racing, not entertainment. If you prioritize entertainment, you end up with the WWF That said fans, do not complain about boring races when the drivers are driving cleanly - they complain about boring races when a car is so dominant that a driver can just get out front and rarely if ever have to battle anybody for a win. What is truly enjoyable is good clean racing where drivers are pushing themselves their cars and each other to the limits. When one of those drivers decides that if they can’t beat their rival on the track, they’ll just run him off the track, it’s not entertaining. It’s just poor sportsmanship, and it denies the fans the opportunity to watch extended wheel to wheel battles.

[@frankbieser]

@@valerierodger Sure, but has it really hurt their legacy? Senna was pretty dirty and he's remembered as a hero and a role model. Same with Prost and Schumacher. Despite that, they are still considered Greats. Sure, there are those who remember those, but for the most part, those "slights" have been relegated to cases of "hard racing" or "what it takes to be a champion". It's the relatively clean racers (like Hill and Brundle) who will largely be forgotten and join the ranks of "other drivers who raced in F1".

[@Timocoh]

He will be remembered because of superb driving my friend. Did you see the race? 🧐

[@MIEJ4]

@@Timocoh of course I saw the race, but you do realise that my comment 4 days ago isn’t exactly my after race reactions 🙄🤦🏻‍♂️

[@bullit217]

Herbert is very baist as stewart Lando goes of teack turn four with a possible unsafe rejoin. Nothing happens Leclerc does the same. And it gets noted. Lando goes of at turn one lost 4 positions at the end of turn one. Rips full throttle cutting the second turn completely winning 3 positions back, and with a second possible unsafe rejoin and doesn't even gets noted

[@vash_dakari]

I'm just going to point out that Max got 10 seconds for forcing a driver off track, but George only got 5 seconds the week before for the same offense. 10 seconds for gaining an advantage is supposed to be the norm, so no complaints there, and it was explained that Lando was only given 5 seconds for gaining an advantage because Max also went off track at the USGP. However, Max should have been given 5 for forcing Lando off track, and Lando should have been given 10 for gaining an advantage at the USGP. Why? Because isolating the penalty to only the two involved ignores the race as a whole. If penalties were properly applied at the USGP, then it would have actually been Oscar on the podium. So now we'll circle back to the question of British bias, and question why Lando was only given 5 seconds to the detriment of his Aussie teammate in one race, and why Max was worthy of an additional 5 seconds for the same offense as others who only got half that penalty the race before. They tell us it's a case-by-case basis, and the outcome of the incident does not affect the implemented penalty, because the penalty is what it is, and that it must be applied evenly regardless of the outcome. Yet somehow it plainly isn't. Don't get me wrong, Max deserved to be penalized, that was dodgy driving on his part. But it's hard for F1 to shake accusations of bias when they're not even-handed on their Stewarding decisions. Rules are rules and should be implemented when a breach has occurred. The Stewards role is to determine what is a breach, and what is just hard racing. They shouldn't be adjusting penalties on the fly. Had they stuck to those rules at the USGP, Max would learn he can't defend like that. Lando would learn he has to give the place back, and if they were actually consistent with their rulings, Lando would have given the place back, confidently knowing that Max was about to get 5 for forcing him off track.

[@pmp1337]

Russel didn't touch Botas. Max touched Lando AND almost crashed into the back of Carlos.

[@vash_dakari]

@@pmp1337 Again, they're supposed to look at the incident and not the outcome. At no point did the stewards mention contact, nor do they apply penalties for what might have been. They did say that 10 seconds is the standard for this penalty though, which then leaves you scratching your head as to why George only got 5 at the USGP. Also, there was no contact at COTA because it has more runoff. A penalty shouldn't be lessened simply due to the victim having more wiggle room. I'm not defending Max. I'm exploring why people perceive bias, and how F1's failure to consistently apply penalties cause such speculation. I think Toto really kicked it off when he called out the irregularities of the USGP.

[@gerilyn]

@@vash_dakariI completely agree, it’s unacceptable how inconsistent the rules appear to be. It should be noted that British bias does have to play a role, at least based on team, considering the one who handed out the harsher/light penalties at at the MGP was the son of McLaren’s owner. I want to ask why he was even allowed to work as a steward in a race involving McLaren in the first place? The FIA’s only consistency is being inconsistent at this point.

[@valerierodger]

@@gerilyn that is absolutely nonsense and basically a conspiracy cooked up by max fans who can’t handle their boy being held to account. You should really go and take a look at the biographies of all the F1 stewards! And did you know that every stewarding panel must have a driver steward on it? That guarantees that at least one driver on every panel has strong ties to the teams competing. And the drivers want them on the panel so that there is someone on the panel that is able to put forward the drivers point of view. Oh, and his father was pushed out of McLaren so much stronger case could be made for him being biased against the team.

[@midas7394]

Agreed. With the power of modern Computers to process all driving infringements (including penalties given), how is it possible for the stewards are able to unfairly discriminate against any F1 driver??

[@hpts8095]

let's see how the rain predicted in sao paulo affects this weekend!

[@LawVS]

Apparently that rain forecast has gone.

[@stevenjoseph6048]

​@@LawVS😭ain't no way. Oh well Brazil delivers banger races regardless but a wet race would've been amazing

[@CapaNoisyCapa]

I'm from São Paulo and it's anyone's guess. Saturday is looking like heavy showers at any time... Sunday is looking like intermittent light drizzle.

[@erikapple8955]

Lando prays youre right lol ​@LawVS

[@waynas-f1]

@@erikapple8955 literally one of the best wet weather drivers on the grid. Sure he would be fine. Clueless comment. Probably referencing Sochi.

[@z_wulf]

I really hope that Red Bull manages to do something about the car, so that Max doesn't have to push it so hard every time. Though I do agree that he needs to calm down a bit and not drive quite as dangerous.

[@tahasoomro8585]

so , if he has a slightly slower car and cant keep the others behind , he is going to do that ? the car doesnt matter

[@z_wulf]

@tahasoomro8585 What? I don't think I understand what you're saying. If he has a slower car. He is more desperate to stay in the race for the championship. That means he's more likely to take the rules to their limits in order to stay ahead. If his car is more competitive, then he doesn't have to race that way since he can use his car to stay ahead rather than dangerous driving skills. I love max, he's my favorite driver but what he's been doing lately is not good for f1 imo.

[@Appletank8]

I guess that means Norris should do the same thing to win the championship?

[@LethalShadow]

@@Appletank8 If that's what he needs to do to win? I say go for it. A win is a win. And it is historically what champions do.

[@sourajit_43]

They all come up with terrible car issues all the time but it doesn’t make them try to crash into or push another driver off track bruh 😂

[@ytwatch]

GREAT ANALYSIS! Coming from a Dutch and absolute Max fan. Max is one of the last oldschool racers and indeed very much like Michael Schumacher!

[@colin_actually]

British media is a joke tbf.

[@MIEJ4]

That sounds like you are biased

[@thelolrus7491]

*mainstream media at-large

[@JasonAtlas]

​@@MIEJ4nah our media is owned singularly by Rupert Murdoch and Russian oil barrens. Our news is in shambles.

[@tartusmaximus179]

Has been a long time

[@Maruman_man]

😂😂😂. Seriously

[@Ryzard]

I will say, like Seb, I get the impression that Max either doesn't mind being a "villain" or even enjoys it a bit (also like Alonso lol) - he just hates dealing with the media and them trying to be sneaky about it while pretending to fence-sit. That's part of what made Red Bull so compelling in 2021/22/23, it felt like the british media was painting a picture of this dark horse chasing down the jing (in lewis) - and winning (as well as to an extent forcing Lewis down in the mud to fight on the same level) It's like an underdog that was also the heel - someone you root for because seeing a psycho charging up against the established greatest driver and team, and managing to make it work, is just COOL. It also is a thing where the flowery personality and coverage for teams and drivers like Lewis and Merc, Lando and McLaren, etc. make a picture that's TOO rosey, so people naturally start to want to see the cracks in the foundation. And red bull and max more or less brought a sledgehammer to said foundation. For the same reason he's hated, that's why people like him - you can see that with his sin racing and antics there, cursing, bluntness with the media, etc. The team feels more "real" to an extent BECAUSE of their flaws and lack of patience. Then when it came to 22 and 23, if you just watched the "villain" win, now it was a boss fight. So we got to watch him essentially toppling each of his direct rivals each year - Lewis in 21, Leclerc in 22, literally everyone and his teammate in 23, and now Lando in 24 (most likely) I'm not a superfan of max - what I DO enjoy though, is that with the villain on top, it's this game of "how long can he last? Who can take a bite out of the bulls?" Stuff like Silverstone in 2023? Peak. Because as those McLarens came out to play, everyone went "oh, this is gonna be good" It's what made Alonso's season so special and so sad, having hope, fighting incredibly hard and well, but still not reaching the win. If max wasn't the oppressive and dominant force he was, Alonso not winning would just feel like failure. Here it seems like a valiant but unfortunate end for the season. I can go on forever, but the point is, Max may be branded as a villain, but I think it really makes red bull and himself shine, in a weird way. He was never going to be a Lewis, or a Button. He was always gonna be Max.

[@kdbsuff9625]

It's not Brundle or Hill which is the main issue with British noise and influence on the grid. It is the Stewards, specifically Johnny Herbert. There is well known beef between RBR/MV and JH. This is the main issue. If the 20 seconds was to deter MV more, it is unfair. If you park on double lines once, you get a fine. Do it a second time and you get - the same fine. Penalties should not be weighted with additional severity but , as was also issued, points etc.

[@MIEJ4]

He got 2 standard penalties of 10 seconds, for 2 separate incidents. I can’t see how anyone could genuinely think there is a bias, they just can’t accept that their guy done wrong and at long last, getting the penalties he deserves. Get over it.

[@kdbsuff9625]

Ha, the British press and public need to get over it. The previous penalties were FIVE seconds per incident, so it was doubled.

[@FormulaProg]

Max drove dangerously, deliberately driving into another car. Lando was lucky to avoid it and only did so because he probably saw it coming.

[@GloomGaiGar]

The FIA and drivers talked it over. You can shove the inconsistency argument already. Max knew going into Mexico that the punishment is more severe now.

[@valerierodger]

⁠@@kdbsuff9625 wrong. At the insistence of the drivers themselves, the penalties were increased to 10 seconds. Lando only got a five second penalty because while he gained an advantage by going off track he really didn’t have a choice because Max pushed him off track by going off track himself Maybe try reading the decision documents instead of spouting such nonsense

[@AlexGreat87]

Oh, you mention Michael Schumacher and Damon Hill brought a whiplash of childhood memories

[@youridiot898]

For me it was Schumi vs Alonso

[@y_fam_goeglyd]

Childhood? Yikes, some of us saw Lauda's rookie year...

[@EnfvntTerrible]

@@y_fam_goeglyd congratulations for being born earlier i guess? what a weird flex..

[@TheDeviltech]

Talking negatively about any Schumacher is a bad idea, especially in German motorsport media. Hülkenberg is recognized as a solid German driver in F1, but he doesn’t come close to the love Vettel receives, or the positive envy surrounding Rosberg. But the Schumachers? They’re in a whole different league. Their legacy in German motorsport is like royalty. Mick is still in the conversation for an F1 seat not just for his skills but because the Schumacher name is gold. Criticizing a Schumacher in Germany is like badmouthing the Pope in Italy-you just don’t do it, especially if you’re a German car brand like Mercedes or Audi, who will soon be in F1. They rely on positive media coverage in Germany, and let’s not forget the German state owns a significant chunk of the VW Group. Keeping the Schumachers on your good side is just smart business.

[@JasonAtlas]

I really like Hulkenberg. I'm hoping he gets a shot at wdc.

[@kwanlinus6999]

0:24 Considering Damon bottled the Championship to Schumi twice, I guess many are comparing Damon Hill to Lando

[@freelunch1458]

Yeah I’ve heard people say lando is the worst challenger since hill lol

[@kwanlinus6999]

@freelunch1458 well, there's Massa, so...

[@stevenwitts6968]

He didn’t bottle it. Schumacher crashed into him!

[@y_fam_goeglyd]

Twice? He was cheated out of it one of those times!

[@kwanlinus6999]

@@stevenwitts6968 Then 95 was surely a bottle

[@NemXX2]

I disagree. Max is nowhere near what Schumacher did. I have not seen him purposely crashing into his rival when he has damage on his car like what he did to Hill. I do not believe Max would do that. Max will race hard but he is not malicious, unlike what the brit press wants us to believe.

[@F1FanCanuck]

The difference is that in 1997, Villeneuve wasn’t given the title because Schumacher was disqualified. JV beat MS on the track, and Schumacher’s DQ only cost him second place, not the WDC. Calls to disqualify Max now would hand the title to Lando. That is a MAJOR distinction.

[@valerierodger]

First, putting Max on notice that continued unsportsmanlike behaviour could result in disqualification might effectively dissuade him from risking it. Second, disqualifying Max now would not hand the title to Lando unless no further races were run this year. Leaving aside the fact that it is still mathematically possible for Lando to win the title, Charles is a hell of a lot closer to Lando than Lando is to Max, so if Max were disqualified, Charles becoming WDC is a distinct possibility.

[@V8.77]

Fairly new subscriber, but this was a really great video, sincerely. Michael was also my favourite driver when I was younger. Will never forget the Mika vs Schumi days. Its going to happen next year again :D you're a good guy, this was one of the best explanations of this I've seen. Well done sir.

[@motelghost477]

I really don't get this concerted effort to see a lesser driver crowned world champion. Verstappen is in a different league to Norris - in the same car, Lando would be utterly annihilated by Max. To me the drivers' title should go to the best driver, not the best emgineer.

[@MarkMateljan-kc8ip]

Because it's all about having a pommy champion....... nothing but bias for British drivers...

[@mikolaygrudzien8764]

careful, british bias will come bite you🤣😂🤣

[@bonifacelukosi9580]

I’m British and I agree, I don’t want a pus like Lando to be champion.

[@DjDolHaus86]

You're going to need to watch a different sport then I'm afraid, F1 has always been a fastest car competition

[@iamacharliest]

You watch the wrong sport buddy, it's first and foremost about the engineering.

[@benjaminbenjamin8392]

hey lawvs did you know that the steward who decided what penalty to give max was Tim Mayer son of Teddy Mayer who founded the f1 mclaren teamwith bruce mclaren. we need helmut as a steward if mclaren can have one of there founders give out double penalties.

[@petersteinmeijer519]

Isn't every steward ( or other decision maker ) directly or indirectly connected to someone on the grid or team ? That's almost unavoidable. F1 seems to be a pretty incestuous kind of world. And if one has a problem with Tim whatshisface, one should have brought it up earlier. Not when things are going tough for one.

[@MIEJ4]

There are several stewards to agree the penalty, they do t just all agree with the one guy that you’ve been brainwashed to think is pro McLaren - how much involvement does he or his parents have with the running of McLaren these days? Don’t you think there are procedures in place to make sure officials are neutral?🤦🏻‍♂️

[@gerilyn]

@@petersteinmeijer519How can people tell the future? Stewards have many different jobs to do and that can be isolated to not working on teams they’re connected to. That’s basic ethics. Nobody knew that out of a rotating cast of stewards, a McLaren connected man was going to be allowed to hand out inconsistent penalties to two title contenders.

[@valerierodger]

Hey dude, did you know that no single steward determines a penalty, it’s done by a panel? Or that there is always somebody on the panel with previous ties to an F1 team? Or that Teddy Mayer was forced out of McLaren, so if anything, Tim has reason to be biased against McLaren?

[@valerierodger]

⁠@@gerilyn the penalties were not inconsistent. Go read the documents. And while you’re at it, take a look at the names at the bottom of them. Tim wasn’t a steward at the US GP.

[@CHRoOMAX]

Is Schumacher's legacy tainted? No. The same goes for Max.

[@kristofsomers2020]

if anything, they will be remembered the most

[@Zachary_McLaren]

But it is a taint on his legacy, we are literally talking about that taint right now.

[@aravindhdeivag111]

Yes lol, everyone will remember Schumacher for 1994 and 1997 as much as he is remembered for his 7 titles

[@valerierodger]

Yes it is. You must be new to F1.

[@valerierodger]

@@aravindhdeivag111 exactly. And while his winning record is mentioned, his scandals get _discussed_ a lot more often.

[@ClinicalDecisionYikesYT]

The most annoying sound in Motorsport - the high pitched nasal whine of the British.

[@haze9876]

Comments like this are the most annoying thing in any sport

[@ClinicalDecisionYikesYT]

@ British bias exists. You must be new 🤣🤣

[@SeanF374]

By British, I assume that you are talking about Horner and his printouts? :-D

[@ClinicalDecisionYikesYT]

@@SeanF374 perhaps LOL

[@kenseiization]

Agreed lol

[@Čangrizavi_Cinik]

Schumacher is my fav driver ever. No mercy. Every move was made for his win. He was 100% focused on a win, no matter how, no matter who needs to be hit in the balls.

[@JSmith19858]

Mike Tyson is my fav boxer ever. No mercy. Every move was made for his win, no matter who needs their ear bitten off

[@SmeeRx8]

Well said !

[@averageenjoyer1930]

​@@JSmith19858Rapist

[@valerierodger]

@@JSmith19858 😄

[@07Corcaigh]

This is one of the very few unbiased F1 channels available. Guaranteed, Hill would be defending Lando if the drivers' positions were reversed, he's even worse turning a blind eye to Hamilton's dirty moves

[@Querientje]

Exactly max never put someone in the wall with 250kmph

[@san-joshuabarrett]

@@Querientje And Lewis never put his car on top of another driver's head

[@FormulaProg]

​@@Querientjethat was a racing incident. If Max would have gone for that move at Silverstone that's exactly what you'd say. Lewis in the wall you'd be laughing about it. What's the speed got to do with anything? It's like you're suggesting because it was a big crash. It makes Hamilton way more responsible or something. Very strange. Do you have any others? Or is it just Silverstone 2021 you like to bring up. Funny considering all the stuff that Max did that season. The one time Lewis refused to back down and they crashed, If anything, that's Max's fault. Are you suggesting he doesn't like it when he gets a taste of his own medicine?

[@Kaimax61]

@@FormulaProg Look British Bias at work. Lewis shunted max into the walls of silverstone, RACING INCHIDENT Max made Lando flinch, HE'S A DANGEROUS DRIVER

[@FormulaProg]

@@Kaimax61 no Lewis went for a gap and Max turned in. The only person obsessed with nationalities here is you. I don't even like Lewis, I think he's a woke idiot. You don't know anything. Like I said to that other guy, If Max could have done that at Silverstone on the inside of copse, you'd blame Lewis for turning in. I'm English by the way, not British. Educate yourself.

[@Maartwo]

I love Mad Max. Love the old school attitude of all or nothing. He showcases why he's a future 4-time WDC and most of the grid isn't.

[@rj41975]

If a driver is not pushing the limits and sometimes going over them, I question their will to win. Max is an all out racer which I don't see in his gen of drivers

[@pianissimo7121]

I want to drivers drive to win. He wasn't doing that at all in Mexico. He is just a coward who is doing his best not to compete but to take away the compitition. It's like saying a footballer is a true footballer only if he does everything to break opponents legs. Thats literally what max is doing, he isn't trying to win he is just trying to crash. Thats not racing. Even if it's legal by rules, he isn't a racer.

[@issahgyandi3365]

@@pianissimo7121 yeah

[@iamacharliest]

I wish everyone was like that, then we'd finally see rule changes because there'd be a multitude of crashes every single race.

[@vennemans9113]

​@@pianissimo7121During a 90 minute football match, how much of true football do you see? How often are they not aiming for the ball and instead someones foot? (like Max) And how often do they lay down on the grass crying fake tears as if the broke a leg? (like Lando?) We all love what Max does, the british just cant cope he's not wearing their countries flag.

[@daphnelovesL]

When Verstappen was younger they celebrate Christmas together with Schumacher

[@Adwnpinoy310]

I’d like Maclaren more if Brown just shut up. He’s not even team principal.

[@yousawnothing4427]

I think we can all agree on that one

[@natzdg3546]

He’s the team principals boss 😂

[@Fredhamleclerc]

You saying that with marko as a red bull spokesperson

[@Adwnpinoy310]

@ I’d like Red Bull more if Marko shut up too. Many things can be true at the same time. But at least Marko’s accomplished things in F1.

[@Adwnpinoy310]

@@natzdg3546 exactly. You don’t hear from the Ferrari board and we didn’t hear from Dietrich Mateschitz

[@dolfschuurman474]

"The United Kingdom, known for its incredibly polite citizens, once occupied 40% of the world and has fought wars with more countries than any other nation. I wonder if there's a correlation here." Back to F1: it’s becoming more and more a sport where stewards can make or break a driver. With the likes of Johnny Herbert and Tim Mayer on the panel, Norris has a serious shot at winning the title. It almost makes me wish for a ‘Brexit’ in F1.

[@jonnyhammerstix1535]

What makes Max such a good driver is his competitiveness, skill and most importantly his aggressive driving. So without the aggressive driving he wouldn't be a champion.

[@valerierodger]

Nobody has a problem with aggressive driving - as long as it’s clean.

[@darkdimi7928]

Always disregard whatever the british "media" says

[@MIEJ4]

Sounds like you’re biased

[@DiscoStu65-sj6pu]

Sounds like you’re a #teamLH

[@Ticklestein]

14:01 - Well. It tells you how much it’s all about Max having the wrong passport. It’s the exact same word. In almost the exact same setting. The penalty should be equal. But it isn’t. Max isn’t being treated equally. Per definition.

[@Anvil35]

Verstappen, Senna, Schumacher spoken in the same breath. While Norris, Brundle, Hill are spoken in the same breath. If Norris wants to reach the higher echelons of F1 greats, he knows what he has to do and how he has to race

[@TurboCleeze]

Oscar will challenge for the WDC quicker than Lando. He just needs to be more consistent

[@FormulaProg]

The first three may be world champions but they're also cheats. Damon is also a champion. You genuinely think norris has to start forcing people off the track to be world champion then you're watching the wrong sport.

[@SmeeRx8]

@@FormulaProg What he is saying, is that Norris needs to grow some hair on his nutsack if he wants to be remembered as an F1 Great.

[@FormulaProg]

@@SmeeRx8 that's just a childish comment. So really you're not saying anything. Norris doesn't need to cheat to win, If Max wins this championship, it's because of the advantage he had in the first half of the season and his questionable tactics to cling on to the lead. Next year might be a very different story. You don't have to be a dirty driver to win. Lewis won seven world championships and he drives fair. The only British bias around here is you lot that can't stand that we are the most successful country in the world when it comes to Motorsport, by far.

[@TurboCleeze]

@@FormulaProg They are only cheats if the FiA officially deems them so. Personal opinions are moot on the subject. Max is aggressive but he knows the rules better than us and makes the FiA rule accordingly. Lando has had a better car for a long time and has lacked the killer instinct to overtake Max in the WDC. At this point Charles will overtake Lando for 2nd place and Max walks away with #4.

[@maverickstclare3756]

Schumu winning the race in the pit lane was awesome

[@gracieloufreebush4899]

not only verstappen, colapinto got 10s penalty and a 2 point from his superlicense for a crash that was lawson´s fault, it´s unreal, like max said "wrong passport"

[@erickrasniewski567]

Regarding Colapinto he did overtake over the curb so they view him at fault also he did go off before rejoining

[@GloomGaiGar]

colapinto was off track

[@valerierodger]

It’s funny how when a British driver is penalized it goes unnoticed but when a Norton British driver is penalized somehow it’s a matter of British bias. People really need to start accepting the fact that their drivers can be in the wrong

[@Iiuuuiiiiiiiiiiiiiii]

⁠​⁠@@valerierodger when I british driver gets penalized it goes unnoticed?? just 2 weeks ago a British driver got penalized and the whole rules needed to be changed.😂😂 so much that a week later the influence of the sport from the British media was so big they punished extremely hard. Nobody is talking about if the rules 2 weeks ago would have been followed correctly norris would have had a 10e penalty not 5.

[@JonathanPeterssonPiano]

I agree with what you said, but what's the difference between Senna and Schumacher? I personally feel like they're pretty similar in terms of dirtyness

[@JMO77UK]

I asked Chat GPT to summarise how Max Verstappen is perceived by the media in various countries. It turns out countries are generally supportive of Max if their drivers aren’t affected by him, love Max if they are Dutch and have an issue with him if Max has a negative impact on their driver. Who would have thought! Here’s an analysis of Max Verstappen’s perception across the UK, the US, and several other countries, focusing on both admiration for his talent and mixed opinions on his aggressive driving style. 1. United Kingdom • Perception: Verstappen has a polarizing image in the UK, especially due to his rivalry with Lewis Hamilton. British media and fans often analyze Verstappen’s style through the lens of this intense competition, especially following their 2021 championship battle, which involved multiple controversial incidents. • View on Aggression: British media frequently discuss Verstappen’s aggressive approach, sometimes criticizing it as overly assertive. He’s seen as one of the most talented drivers on the grid but is often portrayed as pushing the boundaries of acceptable racing. This perception is somewhat divided, with some British fans appreciating his bold style while others remain critical. 2. United States • Perception: In the US, Verstappen is largely admired as a thrilling, talented driver. As Formula 1’s popularity surges in the US, especially with the success of Drive to Survive, Verstappen is often seen as one of the sport’s most entertaining and headline-grabbing figures. • View on Aggression: American audiences generally appreciate Verstappen’s fearless and sometimes aggressive racing as part of the excitement F1 brings. His determination to win resonates with the American competitive spirit, and the press often focuses on his skill rather than scrutinizing individual incidents. US coverage leans toward celebrating his achievements rather than debating his driving tactics. 3. Netherlands • Perception: As his home country, the Netherlands reveres Verstappen as a national hero, fueling an F1 fanbase that closely follows his career. • View on Aggression: Dutch fans and media view Verstappen’s aggression as a positive attribute, framing it as his fearless and exciting approach to racing. They see him as redefining the sport and admire his intensity. 4. Germany • Perception: German media respect Verstappen’s skill and often view him as a successor to Michael Schumacher in terms of dominance and competitive spirit. • View on Aggression: Initially critical of Verstappen’s intense style, the German press has largely come to admire his evolution into a more mature driver, though they still watch his aggressive moves closely in high-stakes races. 5. Italy • Perception: Italian media have a more mixed view, as Verstappen’s success with Red Bull often clashes with Ferrari’s ambitions. While his talent is respected, his dominance is sometimes seen as a threat to Ferrari’s success. • View on Aggression: Italian coverage occasionally critiques his aggression, especially if it affects Ferrari drivers. However, there’s respect for his bold style and undeniable skill. 6. Spain • Perception: In Spain, Verstappen is viewed as a top-tier talent, and his rivalries with Spanish drivers like Carlos Sainz and Fernando Alonso add interest. • View on Aggression: Spanish media and fans generally appreciate his competitive edge, though they can be critical in incidents that involve Spanish drivers. His style is respected as part of what makes him formidable. 7. France • Perception: French outlets respect Verstappen’s skills but view his style with nuance, sometimes debating whether his aggressiveness crosses the line. His past clashes with French drivers have added to his polarizing image in France. • View on Aggression: Verstappen’s driving style is respected for its intensity but sometimes criticized as overly bold, especially if it impacts other drivers’ races. 8. Japan • Perception: Japanese media and fans admire Verstappen, especially due to Red Bull’s partnership with Honda, which has boosted his popularity. • View on Aggression: Japan’s press often sees his aggressive racing as part of his competitive spirit and rarely criticizes it, unless it affects Honda-backed drivers, like Yuki Tsunoda. Overall Summary Across these countries, Verstappen is broadly respected as one of F1’s most talented and exciting drivers. His aggressive style is mostly accepted, though it can invite criticism, particularly in the UK, where his rivalry with Hamilton is central to his image. In contrast, the US, Netherlands, and Japan view his assertiveness as part of what makes him thrilling to watch.

[@meelvanchris]

love it! 😊

[@PeterPost-w8m]

Nice comment 👍

[@wheresenter]

Wait so Americans didn't care if Max affected Sargent's race? Cannot believe it

[@msvanveen]

Very interesting, thank you

[@NearioNL]

Senna wasnt that different from Micheal though..(oke, Micheal wasnt that different from Senna - would be the right phrase)

[@RedHaloManiac95]

Love Max and his aggressive driving. Sure pushed the limit but all the legends were fierce competitors who took penalties on the chin. Wish there were more drivers pushing that hard out there

[@alx.972]

Drivers like Max Verstappen and Fernando Alonso made this sport enjoyable, wether they are racing as hard as they can, pushing the car over the limit, we are bored of drivers that had rooketships too far ahead to have any real competition, by this I mean Mercedes dominance era and Max Verstappen himself in 2023, we don t want drivers who drives around the circle like it is a car parade, we want close battles, f1 racers not just f1 drivers

[@Zachary_McLaren]

If you can't keep it clean then you aren't that great, Alonso doesn't drive people off the track, he races hard. Stop defending bad driving. It's not hard driving.

[@RedHaloManiac95]

@ bro Alonso used to be so much more aggressive. He’s sucks today he’s a back marker blocking new talent.

[@Fredhamleclerc]

@@alx.972red bull were dominant in 2022 as well

[@alx.972]

@@Fredhamleclerc just the 2nd half of the season, that 2022 season was enjoyable for the fact that Ferrari were on top in the first half of the season

[@Bramfly]

British bias and British exceptionalism are a real thing, no denying that

[@aoife1122]

If Max Verstappen would be an "Ayrton Senna-style of driver" he'd have taken Norris out of the race once he was informed about the daft 20-second penalty... and later gloated about it to the meejah, just to rub it in (remember what Senna did to Prost). I'd love to have heard the Brit biasers howling in agony then! 🤣🤣🤣 P.S. When it comes to "questionability", Damon Hill himself was no slouch either, in fact he was worse in this regard than Michael Schumacher. P.P.S. Senna and Brundlefly may have been rookies in the same year, but only one of them went on to become a multiple world champion while the other remained a pathetic also-ran throughout his entire F1 career. Brundlefly doesn't even deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence with Senna.

[@Zandoerlenaar]

Damon Hill I dont take serious about Max. The geezer has a weasly big mouth but says nothing when he is face to face with him. Weasle

[@epicshelterstudio2986]

Lifelong McLaren fan who grew up with Alonso v Hamilton here. Does Zak have any championships to his name? If he did he'd understand that McLaren didn't become the 2nd most successful team in F1 history by being cordial.

[@SufferingAddict88]

Thanks for this video. I've been saying EXACTLY the things you say here in private quite a lot. And I'm also a Schumi fan and currently support Max.

[@arkangelarkangel1302]

Let's see Norris, NOT CHOKE AWAY this race... I have no British bias, as an American, there is a HUGE BRITISH BIAS IN F1.... and it needs to get fixed... and im saying this as a McLaren fan, Max is not Norris's biggest problem, Norris is Norris's biggest problem... you can tell that Norris wants to whine his way into a championship, while Piastri will run over Max and Leclerc like a lawnmower, or at the very least he will shove his McLaren down both Euro throats and make them crap oil for a month... the IRONY, both Max and Leclerc respect Oscar for it too... these guys are supposed to be bullfighters, not figure skaters crying to the judges for assistance.

[@mikolaygrudzien8764]

yeah, I lived in usa for 27 years, I know what you mean, look how they blocked Andretti, it runs deep. BTW, have you noticed the criticism that has built up against Piastri? It is there! I'm not surprised Piastri's performance has dropped off all of a sudden at this point in the season, heck, he has 251 points and P4, people are intimidated, I thought people would be encouraging him, but that would involve risking an embarrassment for Norris. Austin was a huge example - Piastri had to play it safe and just hold P5, given Norris' failure so early in the race they did not want to risk having Piastri fight for a podium, it just sucks the competitive edge right out. They have put all the pressure on Norris, meantime Ferrari are coming on strong with both drivers!

[@SeanF374]

@@mikolaygrudzien8764 Go on then. Fill me in. How did British bias block Andretti? The sport is owned by Americans and governed by a French institution.

[@7mgtesup1]

@@SeanF374 Don't spoil the narrative, it's us evil moustache twirling Brits that control everything and don't allow others to compete.

[@chipsawdust5816]

@@SeanF374 And all but one team manager voted against it.

[@SeanF374]

@@chipsawdust5816 Exactly! 🤣🤣

[@JBils41]

Brundle fought Senna in the British F3 championship before F1… He absolutely understood how hard Senna was prepared to drive to win…

[@martinavery3979]

Max isn't stupid, he is the world's fastest lawyer, after all

[@nikolasvoulgarhs]

Hello hope max wins through all the problems 🤞

[@keldi92]

Hey there, german F1 enthusiast here. And while it certainly is not a crime here to put a Schumacher in a bad light... at least for most of us; JPM sure was a fine target for our nice guys from RTL (the far more popular free-tv broadcaster at the time) and quick to be blamed for accidents, especially during 2003 when him and Micheal went over the limits or crashed. Same thing happening with Steiner being "too hard" or not having the back of Mick enough. And even our media had its few share of calling out Micheal for being a dirty driver, the nickname "Schummel-Schumi" (as in: cheater) was everywhere during his first championship. We all know that he was a very hard racer, but very many here see (both) Schumachers as heroes: Low-Born, very down to earth, very close to the people and funny at the same time (his humor is typical for Cologne and the surrounding area) and the reason the entire nation, myself included, got into a literal F1-fever (just like the Dutch and Max) and watching races on sunday in front of the screen was tradition and some of the fondest memories I share with my family. So, the similarities go even beyond the fact that both have very similar driving styles, at least in that regard.

[@iazy47]

Pretty sure max current situation are same as Schumacher in past , different are back in day internet/ social media it's not a thing like now day can effect driver mental

[@AzazelezazA]

You know that Brundle would never write similar things if Hamilton, Norris or Russell did the same thing. So here I don't give a single f what he and other british media thinks. They're biased to the core.

[@petersteinmeijer519]

Unlike the Dutch you mean ?

[@SeanF374]

@@petersteinmeijer519 To be fair, I've seen a lot of Dutch Max fans calling Max out for this one. It's the vocal minority that are making all the noise, as usual.

[@pitaman11]

​@@SeanF374real

[@y_fam_goeglyd]

​@@SeanF374 which can also be said about the majority of British media and fans. Just because you see a couple of idiots because Sky has the contract for English-language F1, doesn't mean you're hearing all British POVs. Look at the Murray Walker & Martin Brundle commentaries around the Schumacher years and he'll be praised when it's earned and chided when that was earned. Perfectly fair.

[@SeanF374]

@@y_fam_goeglyd Yep.

[@OhDearTheBier]

Hi @LawVs! A fellow German here! Regarding your question, it actually is not that toxic today anymore. Ralf and Juan-Pablo have actually been on show together because the commentators and journalists from SkySports thought it would be a cute reunion between the 2 so there's no bad blood towards Montoya anymore whatsoever. However what is still very much a thing is that Michael and German drivers in general are given SO MUCH attention and worship it's actually very cringe and almost uncomfortable. Although yes Hülkenberg is having a great great season the amount of times I have heard about him, Mick, Michael, Ralf, Nico (Rosberg) or Sebastian is just... annoying really. Whenever the topic of 'British bias' comes up I'm always unsure what to think of it. On one hand I have no trouble believing that there might be some easily-triggered bias towards Lando or George especially nowadays from some journalists and whatnot but on the other hand, whenever I watch English highlights or interviews or whatever it seems sooooooo tame compared to German media in my opinion. German media doesn't even try to hide their bias, they openly admit and even kind of 'glorify' their bias towards German drivers and I have not seen anything even comparable from British media. But that of course might be a problem of regionality too! As a German I personally find Verstappen's tactics really unsportsmanlike and I have absolutely no sympathy towards Schumacher or Max. I find both their tactics that they use(d) in their respective time extremely dirty at times and do not like that sort of racing mentality one bit. I much prefer Lewis, George, Charles and Oscar as both personalities and drivers. Another thing Ralf is actually quite known for his controversial comments to the public eye but most Germans agree with him a lot of the time. They blindly agree with statements like he did recently about 'Max already being better/more talented than Lewis ever was' and stuff like that. He openly admits that he adores Max's driving styles and all that although to be fair to him he does criticise Max when he goes over the edge and is quite a fair judge in those terms. But the bias from him against Lewis is quite blatant. The only one who kind of opposes him most often, funnily enough, is Nico actually.

[@F1FanCanuck]

Lewis ‘had’ to get dirty Law?!? Lewis has no difficulty getting dirty and needs no persuasion.

[@Ticklestein]

I think Martin Brundle needs to choose. Either be a steward and shut up, or be a commentator and speak publicly.

[@SsSHardt]

This aged well...

[@mickeyoakley4012]

Are we ready to talk about how mcl screwed Lando by giving Oscar his maiden win yet? Oscar has been NOWHERE for the last 4 or 5 races, and that point differential will surely come into play by Abu Dhabi.

[@sgt.thompson98]

The scenes if Lando loses by less than 7 points...

[@barbaraam7256]

I'm curious about how today's FIA and media would do about the famous Senna vs. Prost extremely questionable moves, including key moments from both championships. Yet, Senna is still seen today as one of the greatest and people have a huge amount of admiration for him, despite those ruthless and really dirty moments. I guess Max can be remembered as one of the greatest too even if he doesn't change the dirty moves on track, but that will depend on what people will choose to remember. Also, LawVS, nice yapping about Max being similar to Schumacher. I always thought of him being closer to Senna, but your points makes sense.

[@Kaimax61]

It's hilarious for Brundle to Forget how Michael and Senna Raced when they have hard competition.

[@FormulaProg]

@@Kaimax61 and that makes it okay? Martin hasn't forgotten anything. Can you praise Max's driving without mentioning senna or Schumacher? It's like deep down. You acknowledge that they're both dirty, otherwise you wouldn't have to bring them up in discussion about Max.

[@Kaimax61]

@@FormulaProg Yes, that's ok, and what makes you British media losers soft. Look at nando bottling it in brazil. Crying everytime to papa Zak brown.

[@FormulaProg]

@@Kaimax61 hahaha go away you anime freak

[@wimboformula]

Thoroughly enjoyed this video! 😍

[@bigstroke2069]

Mr. LawVS, this is the first of your videos I've watched and you have a new fan/subscriber! I, too, am a long-time Shumi fan that loves Max. You made so many great observations, but I would like to add Jos V's comments about Johnny Herbert and Tim Mayer.

[@edijzerman5880]

It does not help that the conflict of interest with the son of mclaren founder and share holder of mclaren and biased J.Herbert as stewards.

[@adrian3355w]

Exactly... Lando is getting all the help he can get.

[@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1]

And Derek Warrick as a Honda dealership and the same person who called Max the GWH Do we need completely new stewards in your minds

[@gerilyn]

@@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1yeah, we do. They’re pretty crap right now.

[@AlucardNoir]

This video did not age well. And all because of British like rain.

[@j.s3300]

Yes, it’s the brits that make him drive like that

[@FormulaProg]

Never heard so much nonsense from this guy before, stinks of a typical left-wing Brit. Self hating Englishman.

[@doug3011]

comparing Piastri and Hakkinen, interesting, there are similarities.

[@zlm001]

SkyF1 has given me a dim view of Britain, especially Crofty. Nothing to do with British bias, it just tires the soul.

[@pranc236]

When lewis shut the door on max it was great driving but when max does it to a brit, it is dirty driving and that brit can now cut a corner or 2. 🤷‍♂️. The double standard is the british bias ppl talk about.

[@xxxtracionlljllgripxxx2469]

Except lewis had already avoided colliding into max and silverstone, y'all can keep going on about for years, but clearly it was just a mistake, and max turned in more he could have easily open his steering. A slight bit to allow out in the slingshot, past lewis took his line and didn't adjust the steering. Monza was just unnecessary from max jeddah, he should've got a Black Flag. Brazil almost sent himself and ham into the wall Spain he tried it and imola he launched lewis into the curbs

[@WhiteG60]

I think the difference here is that Max had done it to Lewis multiple times prior, and Max also had 3 car widths on the outside at Silverstone but chose not to move. Max has been known for years as a 'Back out or we both crash' but wants to play the victim when someone takes him up on the offer and Max actually suffers consequences. I don't like George Russel much, but last year @ Baku, he said it right. "Am I supposed to jump out of the way just because it's Max Verstappen in a Red Bull?"

[@gerilyn]

@@WhiteG60I get what you’re saying but I feel like people aren’t realizing that there’s more ways to fight when being heavily defended against other than crash or back out. Plus as much as I love Max and McLaren, if the FIA wasn’t acting like a toddler there would be way better races. If penalties are given consistently and accurately, people would stop certain behaviours.

[@WhiteG60]

@@gerilyn Max is the one that consistently has put people in 'back out or we crash' situations his entire career, though. He's the one that needs to learn there's different ways to fight.

[@kdbsuff9625]

However the point remains. From track to track, driver to driver, would the same offence have the same penalty? Ie: major incident at the start of the season with driver A have same penalty as minor incident at the end of the season with driver B? Does that carry over to the next year? In this case escalation is very much centered on one individual. Will all other competitiors now have the minimum 10 seconds?

[@deanneb6925]

As much as I believe that he needs to tone it down, pushing the limits is what this is all about. Sometimes it works and you get away with it - and sometimes you get disqualified from the entire championship 💀 he deserves to be penalized for when he does wrong, but toeing that line and pushing limits is what champions do. The entire sport is about finding the limits: of regulations, engineering, and even the rules. Recency bias and/or tragic circumstances have made people forget how ruthless Schumi, Senna, or even Lewis (the tragedy being the W15 💀) were in their eras of dominance. In that way, Max isn’t very different, if at all.

[@Maria-ye7vy]

You know who agrees with you? Ralf Schumacher. While commentating the race he very much agreed with the penalty but he also said (after the penalties were announced but before Max had served them) how driving Lando off the track and DNF'ing both of them would in his best interest.

[@Ian-y9f]

Finally an understanding and acknowledgement of what Max is about as a F1 driver. Much appreciated!

[@alphasixty1316]

I posted "Max is becoming a regular Micheal Schumacher" on an American forum during the Mexico City race. It got a smart and a funny, a coveted smunny! Tuned in to tuning in to LawVS .

[@dafacede]

Montoya was the villan in Germany, even Hill was one. Good Times !

[@c0smicC0wb0y]

I'd argue there is a difference between driving with your elbows out and throwing your car down a line that compromises the safety of another driver. Lando having the peel off the track to avoid a collision isn't "good racing" - it's reckless driving on Max's part. We want hard fought racing, not collision ending drives.

[@pietjemol3420]

Haha, this didn't age well.... The British press didn't even turn up after Interlagos.

[@ryancomfy]

Liked and subscribed, good vid :)

[@rohananil1266]

We were literally praising Magnuson early season for using the rules to his advantage cause he pulled this same thing but for WAYYY longer. Taking a pen and keeping everyone behind.

[@nizar5191]

Verstappen is hated cause he didn't allow the 8th title from Hamilton.

[@miggareto]

Now this is a hustle. Do you do anything other than prepare, film, edit and upload fire content?

[@BenedictPollmeier]

As a German that is a valid point even when the Schumacher’s retired over 10 years ago he is still will known and the drivers that talk bad about the Schumacher’s they will still get a lot of hate.

[@esvegateban]

I agree, what legacy nonsense is everybody and their moms talking about? Remember when The Michael took out Damo'? Remember when Ayrton and The Professor were taking each other out? Did their legacies *really* get tainted? Liberty Media Drive To Survive modern F1 fans need to get a grip, Max has taken Lando (not a real championship contender) for a ride in a couple of corners with minimal contact and everybody is losing their skirts. Come back when more of 2021 between Max and Lewis happens. This is hard racing for rich spoiled kids, nothing to make a fuss of it, unless it's for the likes. In Brundle's defense, he's the only salvageable thing in the whole insufferable Sky Sports Sky Pad Sky F1 Sky Team Sky Broadcast cringe ensemble. And Jense, of course.

[@fruustles]

me and my wife aren't max verstappen fans but we definitely want him to win over the whiny little boy called lando norris.

[@moritzmuller390]

From a guy from Germany, you are correct you cant say anything bad about the schumacher brothers or even their kids...no one would say Mick just wasnt good enough to stay in F1 no it was all Steiners and Haas fault and everyday there is a story about Mick getting this and that seat and that he is the most deserving driver for that seat...it is insane

[@marcelf0252]

As a German, those headlines were mainly from the 'Bild' (the German 'sun'), so there's no wonder that Montoya had a target on his back at the time

[@sleepyumi]

The only problem when talking about ‘British media Bias’ is that every nations media is biased towards their drivers, Checo in Mexico gets worshipped by some presenters, Carlos and Alonso in Spain, the entire Ferrari team in Italy. Media Bias is a fact of life for any sport. If the main coverage for F1 was done by Italians we would all complain about Ferrari Bias 100%. It’s something we need to get over as fans because the commentators are allowed to support whoever they want as well and that might reflect in their work, if that’s an issue for anyone turn the volume off or watch KZbin commentators who are typically more neutral, like F1 Gamer for example.

[@ImInLoveWithBulla]

“He was right there in the middle of it” He was. In the middle of the field. He maybe heard some stories about what Schumacher was doing 40 seconds ahead of him.

[@Mike.Mendes]

This is a very entertaining channel with good information! I'd like to see Davide Valsechi with the british media again, that guy is fair.

[@SuperMarkizas]

I don't mind any of it. Due to Lando's disparaging comments towards Lewis, I don't mind him riding on Verstappen's rollercoaster. Lando will learn first hand about machine vs. driver truths and will have his own Abu Dhabi to mull over.

[@kingkeshi1140]

What comments? Please tell me, I've a bit out of the loop recently.

[@P.Z.E.R.O]

@@kingkeshi1140Lewis said McLaren was quick in a cool down room and Norris quickly retorted in a snidey way “well you had the best car on the grid before”

[@petersteinmeijer519]

Did I miss something ? Did he insult your demi -god ? Wasn't that some time ago ? I thought it was something recent.

[@Pete201]

Wwwoooowww disparaging comments, you are amazing, amazing

[@idontwannabelonelyijustwan1044]

@@kingkeshi1140 I think it was in the 2020 season if I'm not mistaken but in an interview he said that, given mercedes was the best car on the grid at that time, that Lewis should win every race.. Fastforward to now and he has arguably the best car on the grid and has bottled wins

[@smidsy1979]

Irish F1 fan since mid-90s here. I would never say Brundle has British Bias, but Hill and several others in SkyF1 are blantantly biased, and proud of it ! SkyF1 is pushing the same "Good Vs Evil" narrative they did in Schuey years & Max is defo more Schuey than Senna ! Possibly the 🐐 !

[@markjoy3243]

All the greatest drivers since the 70s have been ruthless. Its whats needed to succeed.

[@FormulaProg]

There's a difference between being ruthless and being a cheat. Michael was a cheat. So is Max.

[@ThaJay]

F1 is a sport of spoilt brats so it's refreshing to see a driver never back down who also has all the skills. Lando is just not dominant enough to compete with Max, he will yield every time.

[@albmalkin]

i don't know who has compared max to senna. in my mind, his parallel has always been schumacher, and for the same reasons you describe. i'll never forget watching a piece of f1 content from a few years ago -- 2020 i think -- that had f1 drivers watching classic f1 moments. max watches senna and prost crashing out in japan and immediately asks his teammate, "would you have done that?" his teammate answers no, and max responds, "me, absolutely." iykyk. max will go down as a winner, same as jordan. not all winners are nice.

[@robertnowac8094]

I'm English and I easily recognize the English bias of which there is no better example than Damon Hill.