Max Wedge Power! Mopar 440 dyno session and combo using trickflow 270 heads!

[@andretorben9995]

Gotta love that dry manifold design. No water to deal with, no dizzy. Makes for real easy manifold swaps, thanks Mopar.

[@48northphotography5]

Nothing like the sound of a BiG Block MOPAR. Love it thanks for sharing.

[@SimpsonsSpeedShop]

Hell ya brother. Thansk for watching

[@JustMoparJoe]

Man that engine disrespects several dyno’d Mopar strokers I’ve seen on KZbin. Thanks for sharing! Pete is the man. Awesome guy to learn from!

[@SimpsonsSpeedShop]

Lol it was disrespectful for sure! Nice build those heads are killer 👍🏻👍🏻

[@JustMoparJoe]

@@SimpsonsSpeedShop yes sir. Someone planned and executed! Thanks again. I know what’s on my Christmas list 😂

[@dallasweber7692]

Outstanding Footage. Keep It Coming. This Is Phenomenal Because I Have Four 440 Built To These Almost Exact Specs Power & Torque!! Going This Far Keeps The Engines Extremely Reliable & Long Lasting Engines Well Into Future Powering Your Favorite MOPAR!!

[@krisjato]

Almost 800 HP from a pretty simple and straightforward big block build, that's hard to beat! This reminds me of the engine in my brother's 73 Barracuda, it ran 10.40 @ 130 MPH in a 3500 lb street car. I'm not sure exactly how much power it made but it's 12.5:1 compression, .700+ lift solid roller camshaft, Indy cylinder heads with some port work. You said "making me dream about big blocks", I'd love to see your car with something like that... That would be fun! Maybe the next engine will be a big block? LOL! Another great video, thanks for sharing! I hope you and yours have a wonderful holiday season, man! Take care and God bless!

[@NobilityandLoyalty]

Love ❤️ you guys. As an older guy who actually drove the Max Wedge cars I can tell you they are still the fastest affordable production cars I have ever seen. Like Tom Grove pilot of the Melrose Missile said. The 413 max wedge was rated at 415 horsepower. They didn't tell you that was at the rear wheels . True story.

[@krisjato]

I completely believe it! My dad had a 1963 Chrysler New Yorker with a 413 and 727 Torqueflight and it was a push button drive on the dash and the thing was pretty fast to be completely stock! I loved that old car with the suicide doors, so much class! I was disappointed because it was going to be my first car but the steering box was worn out and we couldn't find one for it at the time. I was later thankful that I didn't end up with it because my dad ended up giving me a 1974 Dodge Challenger for my 17th birthday. And before I got my license at 18 I found a 440/727 that I bought out of a 1971 Chrysler Newport, I rebuilt that with a mild hydraulic camshaft, tunnel ram and two 450 Holley carbs. It got a 3500 stall converter and a 391 posi. That was a fun car, 12.8 on the motor and 12.0 on a 150 shot of nitrous. That was such a fun streetcar! Especially when you're 18 and it's your first car! LOL! I'm so thankful for everything my dad taught me and also my brother who is 11 years older and had a 1973 Plymouth Barracuda street/strip car when I was growing up. So many wonderful memories cruising and racing on the street! Those Max wedge engines were definitely awesome!

[@stevenbean9706]

my belvedere has a slightly better than stock 426 max wedge and it easily launches and pops the front tires a good 2 feet off the ground runs 6s in the 8th mile 10s in quarter im building a 526 for a 68 dart im cryogenic treating everything we built a 496 that bent a crank making 1100 hp the cryo treat on our second crank seemed to fix it so im using the same on my 526 ill put a 125hp dry shot in it just in case i ever need it !

[@NobilityandLoyalty]

@@krisjato a forgotten factor was that most of the big bore Chryslers came with forged steel cranks and the engines were balanced by the factory 🏭. Even their land yachts. Probably the reason Chrysler products were the first to offer a 5 year warranty with a 75,000 mile warranty. Cars today don't even offer that! They didn't move away from the forged steel crankshafts until the 1970's. Of course the Max Wedges didn't get that warranty as they were built to race . They did come with the warning in the glovebox stating the vehicle was intended for " time trials " and not to drive the car under wide open throttle in excess of 10 seconds. lol

[@NobilityandLoyalty]

@@stevenbean9706 I doubt you'll ever need it if you're running NHRA SS classes. A 526 for 68 Dart will go every direction but straight! lol 😆 it'll be a bit nose heavy but WTH , figuring that out is one of the joys.

[@krisjato]

@@NobilityandLoyalty The 440 that I bought to rebuild for my 74 Dodge Challenger came out of a 71 Chrysler Newport and it was a steel crank. Such great engines and they were easy to work on. That's funny that the Max Wedges had a warning in the glove box that said intended for "time trials". LOL!

[@elmandalorian6671]

Those 270 heads are awesome 👌

[@randysmith9636]

Thank you so much for taking us along. Love seeing and hearing that big block screaming.

[@SimpsonsSpeedShop]

Thanks bud more coming soon!

[@paulcabezola3559]

Wicked !! Whatever that engine goes into is going to be a beast ! Six pack should be totally epic !

[@SimpsonsSpeedShop]

Yes stay tuned for the 6 pack! Should be wild

[@edsmachine93]

Very nice combo. Thanks for sharing. Take care, Ed.

[@gordocarbo]

572 lb at 3500. All I needed to see. Badazz man

[@Torquemonster440]

Dude!! Awesome vid Joe !.. excited to see the six pack results. What would be really cool to see would be a Max wedge style crossram manifold with two Holley 750's. 🍻

[@yarrdayarrdayarrda]

Interesting, we're in the middle of a similar build, 493, the 270 heads, but it will be 4150 based and have a hydraulic roller cam and a more pump gas friendly 10.5-11:0 compression ratio. Stout numbers for sure from that bad unit! Thanks for the video.

[@codyroaderick]

Did you ever get numbers for this setup? Looking to start pulling my block apart for something very similar. Thanks!

[@MrMoosefire]

Yeah any updates on your motor setup?

[@topenddean]

Man watching the HP numbers climb on the display it looked like it was going to top 800 on that first pull.

[@SimpsonsSpeedShop]

It Get out the hole quick for sure! Nice build thanks for watching

[@altpraize6708]

That thing is a monster!!!

[@mikestackhouse9001]

Killer engine with a fairly flat HP/ T curve! Nice work Joey!👏👏👏

[@Moparmaga-1]

I definitely need to step up to 270 heads my 240s are running out of air on my 470

[@MrSixpak6]

Can't wait to see the results with that six pack. I'm guessing more low to midrange power/torque. Great content!

[@SimpsonsSpeedShop]

Ya 6 pack will be killer! Stay tuned

[@NobilityandLoyalty]

@@SimpsonsSpeedShop absolutely!

[@UnityMotorSportsGarage]

Great Video Brother! TrickFlow for the WIN... That is a impressive unit

[@SimpsonsSpeedShop]

Trick flow just hooking up us Mopar guys lol! Thanks for watching Andy! 👍🏻

[@dtruth5769]

Wow that's insane for a NA motor! Great job. That would put ur dart in low 9's

[@SimpsonsSpeedShop]

Yes it would! I should get Pete to loan it to me lol

[@GreenMountainFox]

I'm definitely taking notes for my 440-build... going into my 1978 Cordoba. 3:)

[@extremepoweraddicts2978]

This stock block is living on the edge haha.

[@SimpsonsSpeedShop]

Yes for sure. This motor will be in a street car after beening a dyno mule for bit so it will be ok. Not suitable for a drag car

[@maxfastest]

I just got a set of the trick flow 270s for my build The anticipation is crazy !

[@SimpsonsSpeedShop]

Awesome! Lots more on the channel! Check it out

[@maxfastest]

@@SimpsonsSpeedShop I'm trying to catch up I finally grabbed a 71 B block Duster after a 25 year void in my life Had a 69 roadrunner until 1997 Married with kids and had to downsize.

[@SimpsonsSpeedShop]

@@maxfastest glad to hear your back in the game!

[@Johnson-uy9xq]

That would s a crazy number for that low rpm and what the heads are flowing. Respect for sure

[@caronmyles2014]

The long runners on those intakes really help with the low power peak.

[@chrisanderson6837]

I knew I shouldn’t watch I have 496 strokes 440 with tf 240 and stick 6bbl intake and a comp roller cam. I wanted the 270 but I wanted air grabber hood functional. I wish the made a 6bbl for the 270. What I noticed was the torque numbers down low where high like a bigger head would work even beefed up high. Such a nice build. Next time I guess

[@chadhookland3153]

I have an extremely similar engine except mine is low deck 511. 11.6. My cam is also 265/269 and .660/653 but on a 108. Tf 270 heads. I had to use a Indy single plane it’s all that’s offered for max wedge. 2 to 2 1/8 headers. With a 950 carb mine made 742hp/699tq. But pulling 1.8” vacuum from 5300 up. Now I’m wondering how much I’m really leaving on the table with too small of carb. Nice build. And thanks for sharing.

[@SimpsonsSpeedShop]

That’s a great build as well. Love the low deck! We also had 2-21/8 headers. This thing wanted the big carb for sure. Would be worth a try!

[@jamesfeil2468]

Same here, 511 low deck, TF 270’s, 11.6 cr, very similar Howard’s cam with 108 CL. 2 1/8 TTI’s. 1100 cfm Pro Systems carb. Monster combo

[@caronmyles2014]

About 2.2hp/cfm and about 1.6 hp/cuin, a lot of people over look the 1250 holley, the 1250 holley and the ported long runner intake has to be at least 75 hp over a shorter intake and 4150 holley, the tall block spreads the heads apart further than a low deck block which allows longer runners on that intake. And there is about 50hp in a blueprinted block with a torque plate hone, and making that kind of power install aftermarket main caps before the block gets align honed. Any detonation will make stock two bolt main caps dance all around and the HP will push the crank right out the bottom of the block..

[@michaelhayden8626]

Im excited for the 6pack build too! It's very similar to my dads engine! You would be the first one with the power ports on the 6 pack set up. If you find the time I would love to see the weiand street tunnel ram.

[@SimpsonsSpeedShop]

6 pack coming soon! We don’t have a tunnel ram tho thanks for watching

[@rjecsn]

another fine video! Thanks for sharing.

[@SimpsonsSpeedShop]

Thansk for watching!

[@raysimon1368]

What was the cam you had in this motor that baby was talking and sounding good as hell thanks for sharing

[@stevenbean9706]

thats real good power i hope my 526 does that well ! im going to use a 6 pack on my 426 max wedge but i think ill use all trick flow on my 526 .

[@glengabruch4664]

My 400 based 512 has Trick Flow 240 heads, hydraulic roller cam with 254 duration @.050, with 618 lift. It works well in my 1968 Barracuda fastback with a 4 speed!

[@SimpsonsSpeedShop]

I have other dyno vids using the trick flow 240s check them out !

[@mitchellferre1652]

How much power does your 512 make ? I'm planning a similar 446 Cid build

[@glengabruch4664]

@@mitchellferre1652 Intake wise, I run a ported TM6 single plane with a 950 Quick Fuel carb. I have not had it dynoed. Similar builds often result in 630 to 670 horsepower and similar torque. A 446 will be down torque from a 512. My Trick Flow heads are the 240 version.

[@4ondflor-old]

I’ve toyed with the idea of a max wedge setup. I figure if I’m spending the money on the trick flows, might as well go big. I may need you or Pete to call and explain this to my wife.

[@mannyk291]

Excellent video……… thanks for sharing !

[@SimpsonsSpeedShop]

Thanks for watching lots more on the channel!

[@mannyk291]

@@SimpsonsSpeedShopGreat channel ! I Know Peter…….. tell him a guy from the Okanagan with a couple bad ass Cuda’s says hi.

[@stephenmartonak5807]

That 440 rips! 🔥Very impressive!👍 Do the Trick Flow 270 heads have provisions for bolting up the accessories drive? Thanks!

[@justralphajerseyguystuckin3671]

Wicked- Thanks for sharing 👍

[@SimpsonsSpeedShop]

Thanks for watching!

[@buckrussell3847]

I want these build specifications

[@markwise9868]

A tunnel ram would put it over 800 hp. Great build with awesome heads! Who makes that aluminum valley tray?

[@SimpsonsSpeedShop]

Not sure I’ll try to remember to ask Pete. Trickflow makes one too that is super nice

[@LowDollarDude]

Indy makes one for sure, only problem you have to pull at least one head to get into the lifter valley 🤦‍♂️

[@davebrunette6394]

I love 440 magnums!

[@jryer1]

788/710 not bad considering the rockers are only 1.5 with a mild-ish cam. Since this is for an RV, that makes since, but I could easily see .675 lift with a more aggressive solid roller cam and with those 270 heads, probably make over 900 hp. Howards has a Mechanical (Solid) Roller Tappet Cam, 295/301, Lift .675/.650 for the BB Mopar.

[@randyrhodus2411]

This is one bad ass motor. Would you please let me know the brand of cam you put in this. I have all the specs and lobe sep but thats it. I want one just like it. Awesome on torque and HP thanks Randy

[@SimpsonsSpeedShop]

@@randyrhodus2411 hey thanks for watching all info I have is in video as it’s not my motor thanks again

[@cjm5002]

I know its a bit down the road but... where on earth did you source the valve covers?

[@Randysshop]

Looking good, Do you pull plugs and check them to confirm what the o2 is telling you?

[@tomreyn3610]

It all starts w a big ass carb then volume in the plenum. Port volume then divides it up. And cubic inches will eat it.

[@Inmate-of-Clown-World]

What distributor?

[@mohanperformance.enginerd.1308]

Good engine. Well done. But I wish you had have followed through testing the intake swap as originally planned. Not with a spacer right away. Two changes at a time scrubbed any learning there. IMO. But great engine. Thanks for the vid.

[@briandoyle8944]

Great video! This is the build that I actually want to do but can you tell me who made that Cam and was it a custom grind?

[@MrGarbezzy]

Pump gas?

[@roybaker211]

I'm building the same motor only using speedmaster 285 heads flowing 325 at 600 , please share cam spects?😊

[@caronmyles2014]

You will find the specs. in the video.

[@Popsm0ke]

Awesome , yall need to show nicks garage how it's done

[@SimpsonsSpeedShop]

Lol he’s got a great channel for sure, more street oriented tho, so ya we got him in power department lol. Thanks for watching

[@racebiketuner]

Thanks for another great vid. Any plans for the Dart over the winter?

[@SimpsonsSpeedShop]

Thanks bud, not to sure on the plan for the dart. I have some ideas tho!

[@robertwetherington3372]

Wish u would of run the ported intake with no spacer. I believe the hp gains came from the spacer or at least 95 percent of them. Awesome power for a 500 inch mopar either way

[@Baduster1]

Hello , love your videos . I have had a view stroked 440's one bigger then the other. That is a lot of HP for a stock block. How many runs do you think a stock block can take with that much HP. I know you said it had a girdle. Does it have aluminum or steel caps, Any Deck filler. I would love some specs. Thanks Eddie

[@SimpsonsSpeedShop]

Hey there not sure on how long it would last , Pete was pretty clear that you wouldn’t want to use this as drag only motor. It’s a dyno mule for him then into a street car so won’t get get hit hard. I guess it would all depend on the block, could be fine for a long , could have problems quick. Yes girdle stock caps no filler thanks for watching

[@nes4pres]

Did he say "push interbore" after girdle when describing the block? What is a push interbore?

[@maxfastest]

Bushed lifter bores Not sure why they put a bushing in the bores unless the lifters are smaller than normal.

[@gordocarbo]

@@maxfastest Maybe needed straightened?

[@mitchellferre1652]

Is this with a stock block ?

[@smilsmff]

so the Super Victor is a Max Wedge sized port for Max Wedge sized Intake Port on the 270 Trickflow heads? results look great

[@SimpsonsSpeedShop]

Yes these super victors are for max wedge. Different that super victor for 440.

[@antisocialsecret7584]

Grate numbers 😎

[@SimpsonsSpeedShop]

Thanks for watching 👍🏻

[@autonomous_collective]

Write the combo list and post..... Pump gas?

[@michaelreeves7758]

Just a girdle or billet caps also ?

[@SimpsonsSpeedShop]

Just girdle

[@isaaccarrillo2277]

Amazing . Wich ignition box you were using on the tests?

[@SimpsonsSpeedShop]

Ya know, I’m not sure. During video you may be able to see it in front of motor on stand.

[@jimdrechsel3611]

Cool video. Few questions. Did you just use a breather cap on the valve covers or use a vent somewhere else? Is it really reasonable to say “typical build “ with compression over 11 to 1 compression? Would this engine be able to use high test pump gas because of the aluminum heads? At what point do you choose to use the girdle? I have been told it’s not necessary for the 600 HP build Trickflow kit. I currently have a 440 build with the Trickflow heads that is going to use a six pack carb setup. My engine builder had to machine mounting pads saying they interfered with alignment on the Trickflow heads using those rockers. I was wondering if you had issues? Thanks. Enjoyed the video.

[@SimpsonsSpeedShop]

Hello, on dyno we measure blow by but would use a breather on street, closer to 12:1 we use an additive in the gas, yes use a girdle at 600, or earlier, depending on what trick flow heads you have and what 6 pack manifold you have you may have some work to do, thanks for watching

[@SimpsonsSpeedShop]

These are the trick flow 270 max wedge heads. Didn’t have to touch them to fit these rockers.

[@jimdrechsel3611]

@@SimpsonsSpeedShop so 500 HP no girdle is needed? I have a Hughes cam with hydraulic roller lifters under .600 lift. I would be happy with 500 HP. Trickflow didn’t mention ARP rod bolts with the 600 top kit. At what point would you recommend swapping out rod bolts. Trickflow didn’t mention changing rod bolts because it would mean extensive machine work and disassembly. Do you think using the aluminum heads with 10.5 compression will not detonate with Street high test? What fuel additive do you use? Thank you for the reply. I subscribed and will check out your videos.

[@jimdrechsel3611]

@@SimpsonsSpeedShop I used the 240 heads. Just putting that out there for others. Make sure you have a builder check your heads before assembling.

[@SimpsonsSpeedShop]

@@jimdrechsel3611 if your shooting for 500 hp for street use just bolt on your 240 and go! If your racing would say go further bolts/girdle etc. We get 94 at the pump here 10:5 would be no problem my small block is 11.2 on 94.

[@vincentenk4449]

Thanks for the Dyno vid Joe! Maybe a Maxi cross ram & a set of painted heads & valve covers?! 😮

[@Richardsalazar32]

I want one like that

[@CarsandCats]

BTW, that Dominator was lean in the middle I would have went a little smaller on the high speed air bleeds.

[@colbyclayton8052]

What elevation is the location of the dyno?

[@SimpsonsSpeedShop]

Basically sea level rise

[@colbyclayton8052]

Which girdle did you use? Stock oil pickup?

[@SimpsonsSpeedShop]

Not 100% sure but most likely Hughes girdle stock pick up

[@teamlovell38]

Can it run on pump gas?

[@CarsandCats]

Man you don't know how badly I want those heads but I don't think my Weiand tunnel ram will be able to port match to a max wedge size. :(

[@ToddWright2]

I know of no one that has properly put a 6 pack on a Max Wedge head, but I'm sure it has been done. I like the look of 6 packs, but there aren't any good manifolds for them other than the ancient Weiand semi-tunnel ram intake for standard port openings.

[@SimpsonsSpeedShop]

Ya I have yet to see proper evidence of a max wedge 6 pack. Maybe it will be first! Coming up soon!

[@jameskirchner2655]

MÒPAR🙏💯

[@kevinbrisson3116]

What’s the compression and cam specs?

[@SimpsonsSpeedShop]

It’s in the video.

[@koboskolors]

I dont care if it puts an extra 100lbs on the nose of my Dart, having a big block is where its at!!

[@HowardJrFord]

Aluminum heads & intake , plus an aluminum water pump and housing put the weight of a big block close to an all iron small block .

[@dumpsterchicken6287]

Insane amount of power! What car is this engine going into?

[@SimpsonsSpeedShop]

Not sure where it will end up more testing first!

[@JorgePalomo-u2u]

0:07

[@claymahaney6574]

What girtle does he use?

[@SimpsonsSpeedShop]

Hughes engines

[@claymahaney6574]

@@SimpsonsSpeedShop any particular reason why he used the hughs over the other girtles like 440 source or BCR?

[@SimpsonsSpeedShop]

@@claymahaney6574 not to my knowledge. He and Hughes have a good relationship and he likes there quality

[@bigboreracing356]

Bad@$$👍🏻👍🏻

[@TheProchargedmopar]

👍💪

[@blownaway4371]

FIY Your upper radiator hose was collapsed at startup.

[@michaeldeakin4287]

In a 31-3200 # car with the right converter and chassis, an engine like this, should run at least 9.2, 9.3 at 145 + mph

[@charlesdavis8592]

That's a king Kong motor NA that's what I'm talking about fuck LS just saying man

[@SimpsonsSpeedShop]

Hell ya brother

[@terryfonz4603]

Mechanical water pump too put electric on there you will squeeze a few more hp I bet!

[@johnogo7886]

Can those heads work on a 426 street wedge?

[@kevinbrisson3116]

Absolutely

[@angryyoutubedad6599]

Tf 270's require a minimum bore of 4.32, so you'd have to punch a 426 wedge .070 over to use em

[@Comet-hn3gm]

@@angryyoutubedad6599 You could also notch the bore. Like we do on BBC blocks.

[@craigcontofalsky4387]

Wouldn't you like to try that engine for one season in your Dart?😀 I'm a 340 guy but that would be stout!

[@SimpsonsSpeedShop]

Yes. Yes I would. 👍🏻👍🏻

[@markholroyde9412]

Trouble is they never fkn cast enough at a time, last time I checked there was a 7month wait, impossible to get outside the US unless you wait a season LOL, My mate here in the UK waited forever, when they arrived they went on a 500ci/ 400 and it made 720hp. To get the stuff today over here it would cost around $12K....how much there?

[@SimpsonsSpeedShop]

Dunno on price or availability but everything cost more and is harder to get these days