Fighter Pilot Reacts to America vs Russia Digital Combat Simulator

In this video, a former fighter pilot breaks down the US and Russia's military aircraft capabilities in a simulated dogfight in Digital Combat Simulator from ‪@GrowlingSidewinder‬ .
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[@MaxAfterburnerusa]

Hello everyone! Thanks for checking out this video! The source video is from Growling Sidewinder and you can check it out here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/n3LZgaaAq9Jjnbc If you liked it and want to support more like this head over to Patreon and check out some of my content there: www.patreon.com/MaxAfterburner or you can pop over to www.maxafterburner.co and grab some swag. Stay Fast!

[@cockatoo010]

"you keep fighting until you land" That applies to all planes not just fighters. Never give up!

[@zelfo312]

Even commercial ones?

[@Squidgy55]

@@zelfo312 Especially commercial ones. People's lives are at risk.

[@dustinleonard3408]

no shit. Why would you feel the need to clarify? "hey bob, we are losing hydraulics....eh fugg it, they are on their own... lets bail"

[@dustinleonard3408]

@@Squidgy55 another no brainer. I guess you don't understand sarcasm?

[@Squidgy55]

@@dustinleonard3408 That wasn't sarcasm... He was being facetious. There's a difference. Learn it.

[@doncalypso]

Ryan, once you get your DCS rig set up you should join Growling Sidewinder and LongShot for when they go on SEAD missions. Also, Hasard Lee recently got setup for DCS so it would be cool to see you duel him as well as go on cooperative SEAD missions.

[@clairecelestin8437]

I would *love* to see this. I would freak out. I'd also love to see if GS and LS could beat Ryan in a 2v1, or if he'd go Maverick mode and show them what the pros do

[@doncalypso]

@@clairecelestin8437 if you don't mind me asking, where are you from? Your name sounds Francophone so I'm thinking French, Canadian, or maybe Haitian.

[@TheDegenerateLord]

I am SEAD God!!

[@clairecelestin8437]

@@doncalypso The family did indeed originate in France, although we've been in the USA for a few generations.

[@doncalypso]

@@clairecelestin8437 first time I've come across the "Celestin" family name in the US rather than Haiti or Canada. Had some friends in undergrad with the "Lefevre" family name whose ancestry also came from France... and one of them also drove a Renault too. Thanks for not taking offense to my question and answering openly.

[@zulu_.]

im a young teen boy looking to become a fighter pilot like you. I really take inspiration from your content. keep it up!

[@davidginy6547]

Same bro I’m 15, I want to try to fly apaches or f35b

[@zulu_.]

​@@davidginy6547 I'm looking to fly the F-16 or F-22 but good luck.

[@davidginy6547]

@@zulu_. dope choices good luck brudda

[@Kingpin_Tommy_Vercetti]

I'm 16 and wanted to be a WSO but the jet I wanted to be a WSO on isn't in service anymore...

[@cz75fanatic]

1st.... good grades in highschool. 2nd.... rotc if possible 3rd.... college degree asap 4th.... become commissioned not enlisted Beyond that, have decent vision, and be in great cardiovascular condition. Best of luck

[@Aditi27]

This was interesting ! I had no idea about gyro fitted ejection seats, so a new thing learnt 😊. Also you did very well to stay calm when F - 15 was called " ordinary ". In round 1 though that F - 22 was like " look at my capability" then goodbye pal ! 😁

[@helpdeskjnp]

I think he was being sarcastic about being confident about it being a F22… just after watching his stuff for a while I think that’s what he was thinking (my first impression).

[@macgyver186]

100% correct.

[@Hydra_6544]

Definitely sarcasm

[@codychild2665]

So cool you came across GS. He and his buddy Longshot are a riot and serious fun to watch. Also cool to corroborate what GS teaches with real fighter pilot like yourself.

[@Binnacles]

i dont want to be 'that' guy but that "great" in the first fight was sarcasm

[@jimmycooper4469]

I really appreciate how you break down the acronyms and explain from a pilot's perspective of what's happening in each cockpit you earned a sub for me looking forward to for more videos

[@MaxAfterburnerusa]

Right on. Glad to hear the feedback, thanks Jimmy!

[@beatboxbuggi6884]

I remember this video when it came out. It’s great to see it broken down like this! I highly recommend watching more GS videos because he has a lot of cool tactical scenarios as well as dogfights, BVR, whatever you want he’s got it.

[@muknuk1252]

Love these videos! Thanks dude!

[@camjam344]

love these vids, cant wait to see you play dcs. also i like it when you keep in gs's commentary. keep it up!!!!!!!

[@onyx6847]

gs/max afterburner dogfight video soon? keep up the good work ryan (hope i spelled right) ❤

[@lerch66]

You should log in and duel with growling side winder. He battled a Canadian/French pilot on DCS and it was really interesting DCS and debrief afterwards.

[@warbuzzard7167]

You say, "Battle," and I say, "Appeared as red meat target for." Lol. GS got murderlated.

[@cockatoo010]

French. Até is a Rafale pilot for the Armée de l'air

[@joevaccaro6655]

Thank you Max Afterburner and Growling Sidewinder, awesome debrief.

[@grimblegromblethegnome]

You bring some awesome content my man. Super interesting hearing the professional critiques and analysis. Looking forward to seeing videos of your flying and hearing how DCS compares to the real thing. Thanks!

[@LancelotChan]

Thank you very much for your insights! They're so educative! Thanks a lot!

[@Alexander-fr1kk]

My wife got to fly with the Thunderbirds, and jump with the Golden Knights, when they came through Tyndall AFB many years ago 😁 she’s a news anchor… what an experience!!!

[@7gmeister]

They’re probably saying that because they don’t get the training that American pilots do. It’s not a matter of them not wanting it. It’s more like they don’t want to admit that their budget for training is severely limited but you wouldn’t say that. You’d just make an excuse saying you don’t need to

[@792slayer]

I love Growling Sidewinder, and this channel is a new favorite.

[@voodoo8796]

Very cool description of the maneuvers. I think I'll get the game. Thank you for the content and your service.

[@Jesus-Is-Lord121]

I love these vids!

[@JimmFozzy]

Another great video! Would love to see you spend more time in DCS!

[@The1337scientist]

I am a little upset that you actually dont have the majestic mustache advertised in the thumbnail. :p (I love Growling Sidewinder's videos and really enjoyed your analysis.)

[@tofumar]

I think the "fantastic" may have been sarcastic

[@clairecelestin8437]

Maybe the "keeping a good attitude" was also sarcastic :D

[@joefox099]

You have great energy man! Like your style!

[@hawaiianrobot]

would be so sweet to see you do DCS stuff of your own, man. nice to see the stuff that you can show in public, no need to be breaking opsec or anything. hope getting together the PC, hotas, head motion tracker isn't too painful

[@Simon.15]

Damn , one of the best videos out there. The collaboration we didnt know , we need it . Damn G.S named a manuever the wrong name 🤣🤣

[@aure818v]

You make GS videos educational and add to the excitement.

[@theeddorian]

With many of the F-22 capacities still being classified and actually restricted from use in international war games to the point that some military reviewers state that F-22 pilots are acquiring "bad habits" because they are not allowed to push the jet to its full potential. It's questionable how useful simulator reviews may be.

[@davidakes8892]

Great video

[@komsomolac]

Hi, mate! I have just discovered your channel and I must say that I like your style of presentation! I'll sure be following you.

[@viktor_v-ughnda_vaudville_476]

I love how your doing reviews of growling sidewinder it’s great he’s the man

[@guytrimble8171]

Great job

[@viktor_v-ughnda_vaudville_476]

I’d be really interested to get your take on differential thrust maneuvers that growling sidewinder has been using in his new videos it’s pretty interesting seeing him beat an f-22 in a 1 circle with a su-27

[@artao5]

I was going to mention that as well but figured I'd look first to see if someone else had. And Lo!

[@hook86]

Great commentary! We DCS Fans really enjoy this content!

[@DaytonaRider1]

Great review.

[@warbuzzard7167]

The Jet Clean shaving cream is SUPERB, by the way!!

[@EBMisKing]

These DCS videos with Ryan and Growling Sidewinder are my favorite

[@pauljackson1744]

Good stuff

[@laltluangkimatluanga1763]

Do more videos like this love it

[@Neur0nauT]

That Thrust Vectoring is game changing. The aerobic manoeuvres are min-maxing against older gen airframes. How do these pilots endure these G's IRL? Phenomenal.

[@ywe3]

Gs are relative to speed so a slow high alpha may only be like 3g or 5g.

[@trudownsouth8490]

I really didn't think I would like watching a video of an ex fighter pilot breaking down a DCS game. I really thought it would suck. Now I'm hooked. Subscribed.🤦🏾‍♂️

[@user-dx4hb5le4v]

If you got DCS I would watch all your dogfights, would love to learn from the best👌🏻

[@StoneCoolds]

I would be more interestig in BVR on a dynamic enviroment than basic dogfighting...

[@Dubanx]

@@StoneCoolds BVR tactics is highly classified. It involves a ton of knowledge on your missiles' capabilities, how much your own country knows about enemy missiles, and timed actions that you REALLY don't want other nations to know/exploit. Real fighter pilots do not do BVR in DCS, and absolutely won't post a video of a BVR match. BFM is the best you can hope for, as that is (mostly) publicly available.

[@jayjay53313]

USAF, US Navy, USMC fighter pilots have sworn not to reveal nor teach anything technical, not even revealing at general level on how the actual avionics work especially if Max Afterburner flown the F-15E that refitted with AESA radar, how its MFD, RWR, HUD work won't reveal. DCS unable to give us 4.5th generation teen series fighters until now because of this. He would secretly played DCS but won't reveal himself. Actual fighter pilots in other countries who played DCS said the feel is different from them flying their actual jets. The F-16C AGM-65 targeting seems problematic in DCS.

[@itsjustme8947]

@@jayjay53313 "Sworn"?? No. We signed lots of documents. We go to prison. (32 year USAF retiree. 18 year F-15E pilot).

[@jayjay53313]

@@itsjustme8947 yes, you revealed info, the law would press charges if you're caught. That's why air force & navy pilots refused to reveal a single thing on avionics and how they operate. If you're real F-15E pilot, I'm sure you could tell DCS F-16C & F/A-18C inaccuracies on the less user friendly targeting pod compared to the real thing but you won't reveal.

[@edcew8236]

Love the commentary! But are these dogfights realistic, being so close to each other?

[@Kildigs]

I know i've spent too much time on youtube if I find Jim Carry's dogfighting channel. Subbed

[@onyx6847]

you should check out the f15 strike eagle in development for dcs, maybe you could give them some help modeling the systems because of your experience with the plane

[@Geomanb]

Yeah 😊

[@cgrant26]

I wouldn't call it excitement with Growling Sidewinder, more like 30% excitement and 70% sarcasm.

[@PhycoKrusk]

Dogfights are like street fights: There are no rules, and they always end up on the ground.

[@Gabriel_McMillan]

Well done! More of the same sort of commentary, please!

[@caalcb7]

GS video and former pilot react? It's time for a beer and snack then.

[@clayblaze1327]

So idk if you know but the F15 E is coming to dcs soon, would be cool to see you check it out when it releases

[@boblarry7879]

For someone who knows absolutely nothing about jets just fascinated by them you make everything so easy to understand.

[@MaxAfterburnerusa]

Glad you enjoy the videos! I’m glad you’re here. You don’t need to know anything about jets to enjoy how awesome they are so you’re in the right place 👍👍

[@SimbaC2007]

Can you play DCS yourself, and vs against the highest skill AI??

[@NorthTonawanda1]

What a great little niche for you. I love watching Growling, Grim Reapers, etc. It's better than TV. You get to come in as an expert and repurpose all this great content that's second nature to you. Don't you love KZbin (most of the time?)

[@scottcmelo2338]

Max great video. I’m an NROTC MIDN with a flight contract and Im commission in a year. What should I do to prepare for flight school. I understand Air Force flight school is different then Navy fight school, but if you had any tips that would be great. I got my hands on the T-6 b student flight manual and have been reading that, but is there anything else I should do?

[@dsm3759703]

You'll be fine. As with most military schools, don't try to get ahead of the training. The US military knows how to train and will teach you from square one.

[@paulp1450]

Oh, and BTW, thanks for your service. Keeping our skies safe... 👍

[@Kingpin_Tommy_Vercetti]

Hey Max what do you think of the F-14 Tomcat?

[@charlesrichardson8635]

Growling Sidewinder also gives a decent, well-understood, running commentary.

[@JBSmoke1]

I'm a DCS player - play poorly but have major fun. I've been following you and Growling Sidewinder for a while now. Can we look forward to more cooperation between you and GS?

[@bjjman95]

Bro I swear I saw a pic of you and saw the max afterburner and thought to myself "this guy just looks like he Flys F15s" 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@geoffgreen2105]

If there's one thing I've learned from watching Growling Sidewinder and his friends, it's that a skilled pilot can win in just about any plane, and a pilot who doesn't know their plane's capabilities and how to take advantage of them is just a target, no matter how fancy their ride.

[@LewisB3217]

Skill > gear in every facet of life lol, I’d you got the skills, you can make most things work

[@pd28cat]

haha rudder pedal raptor go brrr

[@tanberjan]

It's not the plane, it's the pilot 🙂

[@yesyes-om1po]

well, to be fair most of the dogfights are not realistic, in most modern aircraft you could just take a more boring stance and maintain distance and give the enemy absolutely no chance of engagement, like in a BVR fight against a less sophisticated but still in service aircraft, like an F22 versus pretty much any 70s-90s aircraft. A lot of it is up to chance and guesswork, you don't always know what your enemy is going to do or how experienced they may be, a rookie can do something unexpected that can throw off a more experienced pilot, and vice versa of course. It is sort of like a blind game of chess in a way.

[@miriamweller812]

@@LewisB3217 Sorry, but you can never be better than you gear. You can hope that the other is so bad, that he is unable to use that gear, but that's sheer hoping for good luck.

[@Gabriel_McMillan]

There is a US-based simulator which is supposed to be superior to DCS. It's called NOR by Meta Immersive Synthetics. It is currently only for military use, but there is some talk about making it open to the general public as commercial software. If you have any influence with anyone who might have some say in whether the public will also be allowed to fly on NOR, please put a good word in for us!

[@cz75fanatic]

I can see where it would be a good idea to release something like that as it provides thousands upon thousands of additional hours data. On the downside, the release is that you'd have to reduce accuracy so that hostile elements couldn't reverse the data to better articulate their missing weapons data.

[@Gabriel_McMillan]

@@cz75fanatic Ahhh, see, you don't know about the other upside to allowing NOR to be used by the public. The other benefit is that many of our civilian and military pilots will no longer be using DCS, which is actually Russian software, which I can guarantee you is being used to train Russian AI for 6th gen systems, and to train their own pilots on things like those defensive maneuvers that Russians don't get as much practice on. So I wouldn't worry about hostile powers reverse engineering your flight sim, because theirs is currently the best in the world. That's why NOR needs to be released to the public.

[@squakinkakas]

I don't think that NOR would be released to the general public as it wouldn't make financial sense to Metrea, as they also make DCS modules (Metrea is comprised of studios like TrueGrit and Heatblur, and the people who are making the Eurofighter for NOR are also making the Eurofighter for DCS)

[@Gabriel_McMillan]

@@squakinkakas Of course it does, because DCS will probably soon fall under sanctions. Not to mention, they could take much of DCS' market. It does not make any sense to write flight sim code unless competing with DCS was precisely what you had in mind.

[@squakinkakas]

​@@Gabriel_McMillan What I'm saying is that Metrea would only be competing with its own products, which is why I suspect that it would not release NOR to the public. It is also possible that ED is somewhat involved with NOR, as the website for TBS went offline a bit before the announcement of NOR, which makes it seem like there is some link between ED and Metrea in addition to the devs at Metrea working on both platforms

[@damianketcham]

“I will break you.”

[@heatblast876]

Hello max afterburner, do you see the match fight between F22 VS MIG 31, you will surprise, that match, definitely on growing sidewinder.

[@markbolton4142]

what do you think of the more 6th generator fighters such as a F/-XX

[@RobertReg1]

Love Growling Sidewinder and Grim Reapers Thanks for the breakdown! God Bless

[@dasboototto]

I never knew Fire Marshal Bill was in the Airforce

[@Reth_Hard]

Is there any sources for other videos like this? I'd really like to see more of these American vs Russian flight combats. (Or any other Nation vs Nation fight simulations)

[@Reth_Hard]

Nevermind... I just found his channel (Growling Sidewinder) 😄

[@MaxAfterburnerusa]

Yeah Growling Sidewinder has great stuff. I’m going to start doing some videos as well in the next few weeks, stay tuned!

[@Reth_Hard]

@@MaxAfterburnerusa Nice!

[@brandonleeps]

Good video

[@MaxAfterburnerusa]

Thanks!

[@albers17]

@growlingsidwinder is awesome. deff deserve props.

[@eugeneminton2613]

i had an idea to make an rc drone aircraft years ago that had variable inlets and outlets for the incoming and outgoing air/thrust. but i wanted to mix it with something like a biplane... thou not with a wing in front and one in back but in front and back of the fusilage, offset with one slightly higher. oh and it was a 1 engine idea. the idea thou was to put the wings on rotating drums to allow them to either be locked in place or to rotate so as to allow the body of the aircraft to move independantly of their angle in providing lift. idk if that makes sense... basically you could fly it like a biplane, with 1 wing abof the other and the body pointing straight up or straight down... because the inlets and outlets would also move to keep their flows/forces (thou reduced, since it isn't optimum in that configuration) anyhow i figured it could help keep targeting and other systems in some way if not change the angle of attack for lets say a gun... idk if a missile could be launched in that configuration. well ya i wanted to make an rc of it to test it... for potential larger scale systems. idk what the g forces and such would be anyhow. i'm a dreamer and a thinker, so its just an idea i had years and years ago. i don't have the ability to actually make one, but eh its a dream right. peace. sorry, i wanted to share.

[@TheDegenerateLord]

see this is the shit i have trouble with. merging and all that. For one this situation only happens when players agree to only use guns. It does happen in open battles like the sidewinder server but it's rare you actually get close enough and you both just happen to be out of missiles or one of you, but i still want to learn, but what if you run out of energy first and stall?

[@coltfanning4894]

More growling sidewinder reacting videos plz

[@snakeinthegrak8969]

The worst part about watching his DCS videos is all the dirt bandits on my phone screen.

[@Alexander-fr1kk]

Great stache!!!

[@ofekk213]

Growling Sidewinder recently made a video revisiting the idea of random US jets VS Soviet jets, except in his newer video each person can only use a jet once, and that video features more types of jets aswell.

[@mustang5132]

Just if anyone is wondering, most of the dogfights Growling sidewinder does are guns only.

[@jimr7154]

Great video Loved the step by step breakdown on tactics Thanks

[@Hatchbackiller]

I think the spontaneity was 100% sarcasm. Lol

[@ardap3966]

Where does the voice come from in the intro?

[@Nikhilsj33]

It's Growling sidewinder

[@AJLaRocque54]

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[@MrSaaadpanda]

where is the link to the videos that you are using?

[@MaxAfterburnerusa]

Hi! It’s from Growling Sidewinder: kzbin.info/www/bejne/majFc5qpa8l2h7s

[@mrjdgibbs]

He wasn't excited it was an f22, that was pure sarcasm

[@mikeausra6950]

SPLASH 1 GET HIM

[@mowabb]

70k subscribers!!! This man is climbing like an f15 unrestricted!!!

[@Nicer_Ricer_JDM]

Damn bro you flew the Strike Eagle… I’m jealous 💯

[@vyctordraco948]

Growling was being sarcastic about the f22.....its like fighting a leaf on the wind....with teeth and the sun behind it.

[@Player_228]

Mig 29 fighting f22 : realism

[@mcguire4162]

The more realistic these simulators get, the more they become a useful teaching tool for real-world fighter pilots. Imagine if you could have Hans-Joachim Marseille as your instructor. Or Adolf Galland. You could potentially have a lot of super pilots. That said, that's where Ai comes in. Whatever generation aircraft ends up being piloted by Ai will be able to learn and adapt instantly. That is NOT science fiction. It is almost here now.

[@karjalasta]

I agree. Good point! As we know, the unmanned variant of the Su-75 is the first aircraft projected to have this.

[@thegenericguy8309]

The 30mm HEF shells of the Flanker's gun have about the mass, fragment dispersion, and explosive mass of a typical frag grenade. Hell of a punch in those things. Like someone taped an M61 to your plane

[@Julio_Tortillia]

M61 Vulcan or M61 frag? lol

[@spinningsquare1325]

@@Julio_Tortillia I think he means taping grenades to the enemy plane

[@Julio_Tortillia]

@@spinningsquare1325 it was a joke...

[@aaronyork3995]

Barking spider is cool

[@sageg58]

I can't wait for the dcs strike eagle

[@tirsofelipeduranmendoza5432]

U should react to Red vs Blue, its hillarius!

[@itsjustme8947]

"That's a normal F-15"????? I flew the -E for 18 years, thank you very much. Care to meet me in the real thing?? I'm 60 and haven't been in the cockpit for, uh, awhile and I'm short one eye. Bet I can still take you in 2 minutes or less, lol!

[@geraldjessup6149]

I was on agressor force radar site at red flag in 1977

[@adioprotege]

The first fight he was sarcastically saying its an f-22. How did you not pick up on that?

[@Jonboy2312]

Definitely at least try a quality VR setup somewhere... It's night and day difference from head tracking. Being a pilot you've got the stomach for it :D

[@Milkywayboy]

The f22 is so good dog fights like this will likely never happen