Fighter Pilot Reacts to America vs Russia Digital Combat Simulator

[@MaxAfterburnerusa]

Hello everyone! Thanks for checking out this video! The source video is from Growling Sidewinder and you can check it out here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/n3LZgaaAq9Jjnbc If you liked it and want to support more like this head over to Patreon and check out some of my content there: www.patreon.com/MaxAfterburner or you can pop over to www.maxafterburner.co and grab some swag. Stay Fast!

[@doncalypso]

Ryan, once you get your DCS rig set up you should join Growling Sidewinder and LongShot for when they go on SEAD missions. Also, Hasard Lee recently got setup for DCS so it would be cool to see you duel him as well as go on cooperative SEAD missions.

[@clairecelestin8437]

I would *love* to see this. I would freak out. I'd also love to see if GS and LS could beat Ryan in a 2v1, or if he'd go Maverick mode and show them what the pros do

[@doncalypso]

@@clairecelestin8437 if you don't mind me asking, where are you from? Your name sounds Francophone so I'm thinking French, Canadian, or maybe Haitian.

[@TheDegenerateLord]

I am SEAD God!!

[@clairecelestin8437]

@@doncalypso The family did indeed originate in France, although we've been in the USA for a few generations.

[@doncalypso]

@@clairecelestin8437 first time I've come across the "Celestin" family name in the US rather than Haiti or Canada. Had some friends in undergrad with the "Lefevre" family name whose ancestry also came from France... and one of them also drove a Renault too. Thanks for not taking offense to my question and answering openly.

[@zulu_.]

im a young teen boy looking to become a fighter pilot like you. I really take inspiration from your content. keep it up!

[@davidginy6547]

Same bro I’m 15, I want to try to fly apaches or f35b

[@zulu_.]

​@@davidginy6547 I'm looking to fly the F-16 or F-22 but good luck.

[@davidginy6547]

@@zulu_. dope choices good luck brudda

[@Harakoni_Warhawks]

I'm 16 and wanted to be a WSO but the jet I wanted to be a WSO on isn't in service anymore...

[@cz75fanatic]

1st.... good grades in highschool. 2nd.... rotc if possible 3rd.... college degree asap 4th.... become commissioned not enlisted Beyond that, have decent vision, and be in great cardiovascular condition. Best of luck

[@codychild2665]

So cool you came across GS. He and his buddy Longshot are a riot and serious fun to watch. Also cool to corroborate what GS teaches with real fighter pilot like yourself.

[@helpdeskjnp]

I think he was being sarcastic about being confident about it being a F22… just after watching his stuff for a while I think that’s what he was thinking (my first impression).

[@macgyver186]

100% correct.

[@Hydra_6544]

Definitely sarcasm

[@jimmycooper4469]

I really appreciate how you break down the acronyms and explain from a pilot's perspective of what's happening in each cockpit you earned a sub for me looking forward to for more videos

[@MaxAfterburnerusa]

Right on. Glad to hear the feedback, thanks Jimmy!

[@Aditi27]

This was interesting ! I had no idea about gyro fitted ejection seats, so a new thing learnt 😊. Also you did very well to stay calm when F - 15 was called " ordinary ". In round 1 though that F - 22 was like " look at my capability" then goodbye pal ! 😁

[@Float0121]

i dont want to be 'that' guy but that "great" in the first fight was sarcasm

[@beatboxbuggi6884]

I remember this video when it came out. It’s great to see it broken down like this! I highly recommend watching more GS videos because he has a lot of cool tactical scenarios as well as dogfights, BVR, whatever you want he’s got it.

[@Kildigs]

I know i've spent too much time on youtube if I find Jim Carry's dogfighting channel. Subbed

[@camjam344]

love these vids, cant wait to see you play dcs. also i like it when you keep in gs's commentary. keep it up!!!!!!!

[@theeddorian]

With many of the F-22 capacities still being classified and actually restricted from use in international war games to the point that some military reviewers state that F-22 pilots are acquiring "bad habits" because they are not allowed to push the jet to its full potential. It's questionable how useful simulator reviews may be.

[@lerch66]

You should log in and duel with growling side winder. He battled a Canadian/French pilot on DCS and it was really interesting DCS and debrief afterwards.

[@warbuzzard7167]

You say, "Battle," and I say, "Appeared as red meat target for." Lol. GS got murderlated.

[@cockatoo010]

French. Até is a Rafale pilot for the Armée de l'air

[@The1337scientist]

I am a little upset that you actually dont have the majestic mustache advertised in the thumbnail. :p (I love Growling Sidewinder's videos and really enjoyed your analysis.)

[@itsjustme8947]

"That's a normal F-15"????? I flew the -E for 18 years, thank you very much. Care to meet me in the real thing?? I'm 60 and haven't been in the cockpit for, uh, awhile and I'm short one eye. Bet I can still take you in 2 minutes or less, lol!

[@muknuk1252]

Love these videos! Thanks dude!

[@Alexander-fr1kk]

My wife got to fly with the Thunderbirds, and jump with the Golden Knights, when they came through Tyndall AFB many years ago 😁 she’s a news anchor… what an experience!!!

[@792slayer]

I love Growling Sidewinder, and this channel is a new favorite.

[@joevaccaro6655]

Thank you Max Afterburner and Growling Sidewinder, awesome debrief.

[@SergeyPupkoMusic]

F22 - the "I win" button.

[@viktor_v-ughnda_vaudville_476]

I’d be really interested to get your take on differential thrust maneuvers that growling sidewinder has been using in his new videos it’s pretty interesting seeing him beat an f-22 in a 1 circle with a su-27

[@artao5]

I was going to mention that as well but figured I'd look first to see if someone else had. And Lo!

[@onyx6847]

gs/max afterburner dogfight video soon? keep up the good work ryan (hope i spelled right) ❤

[@cgrant26]

I wouldn't call it excitement with Growling Sidewinder, more like 30% excitement and 70% sarcasm.

[@Neur0nauT]

That Thrust Vectoring is game changing. The aerobic manoeuvres are min-maxing against older gen airframes. How do these pilots endure these G's IRL? Phenomenal.

[@ywe3]

Gs are relative to speed so a slow high alpha may only be like 3g or 5g.

[@Gabriel_McMillan]

There is a US-based simulator which is supposed to be superior to DCS. It's called NOR by Meta Immersive Synthetics. It is currently only for military use, but there is some talk about making it open to the general public as commercial software. If you have any influence with anyone who might have some say in whether the public will also be allowed to fly on NOR, please put a good word in for us!

[@cz75fanatic]

I can see where it would be a good idea to release something like that as it provides thousands upon thousands of additional hours data. On the downside, the release is that you'd have to reduce accuracy so that hostile elements couldn't reverse the data to better articulate their missing weapons data.

[@Gabriel_McMillan]

@@cz75fanatic Ahhh, see, you don't know about the other upside to allowing NOR to be used by the public. The other benefit is that many of our civilian and military pilots will no longer be using DCS, which is actually Russian software, which I can guarantee you is being used to train Russian AI for 6th gen systems, and to train their own pilots on things like those defensive maneuvers that Russians don't get as much practice on. So I wouldn't worry about hostile powers reverse engineering your flight sim, because theirs is currently the best in the world. That's why NOR needs to be released to the public.

[@squakinkakas]

I don't think that NOR would be released to the general public as it wouldn't make financial sense to Metrea, as they also make DCS modules (Metrea is comprised of studios like TrueGrit and Heatblur, and the people who are making the Eurofighter for NOR are also making the Eurofighter for DCS)

[@Gabriel_McMillan]

@@squakinkakas Of course it does, because DCS will probably soon fall under sanctions. Not to mention, they could take much of DCS' market. It does not make any sense to write flight sim code unless competing with DCS was precisely what you had in mind.

[@squakinkakas]

​@@Gabriel_McMillan What I'm saying is that Metrea would only be competing with its own products, which is why I suspect that it would not release NOR to the public. It is also possible that ED is somewhat involved with NOR, as the website for TBS went offline a bit before the announcement of NOR, which makes it seem like there is some link between ED and Metrea in addition to the devs at Metrea working on both platforms

[@hawaiianrobot]

would be so sweet to see you do DCS stuff of your own, man. nice to see the stuff that you can show in public, no need to be breaking opsec or anything. hope getting together the PC, hotas, head motion tracker isn't too painful

[@trudownsouth8490]

I really didn't think I would like watching a video of an ex fighter pilot breaking down a DCS game. I really thought it would suck. Now I'm hooked. Subscribed.🤦🏾‍♂️

[@callmejester6221]

idk how realistic the f22 is in dcs but good fights

[@hwbxjr]

early 4 gen vs 5 gen. nice combat

[@warbuzzard7167]

The Jet Clean shaving cream is SUPERB, by the way!!

[@boblarry7879]

For someone who knows absolutely nothing about jets just fascinated by them you make everything so easy to understand.

[@MaxAfterburnerusa]

Glad you enjoy the videos! I’m glad you’re here. You don’t need to know anything about jets to enjoy how awesome they are so you’re in the right place 👍👍

[@MaverickSu-35]

@ 6:37 we can all clearly see the bullets passing waaaay way below your plane and it makes all of the physical sense to be that way as the shooting plane has high AoA (so the bullets trajectory will be curved downwards) and it's also not pointing it's nose above or leading your plane but lagging it's sight behind your plane. How on Earth did the bullets hit? Not visually nor physically! It's just a decades unfixed bug in DCSs servers (lagg maybe to blame idk but it's always there) and if people don't address it, it will be there to forever stay. In all other combat flight sims, the opponents hit me only after pointing their nose accordingly well ahead (lead) on my plane's trajectory (logical) depending on speeds and geometries in order to have the bullets land on my plane, but no, on DCS servers you can spray the bullets perfectly on your enemy and have none simulating a hit or just miss them badly and then go a WHOOOT?... as you see your target in flames and it simulates that you hit when in fact you never hit it visually fact which is also confirmed with TACVIEW ACMI. Done TACVIEW vs DCS own recording comparisons for this issue many times and confirmed that TACVIEW shows the truth that the bullets pass well by while DCS simulates that they hit=).

[@joefox099]

You have great energy man! Like your style!

[@user-dx4hb5le4v]

If you got DCS I would watch all your dogfights, would love to learn from the best👌🏻

[@StoneCoolds]

I would be more interestig in BVR on a dynamic enviroment than basic dogfighting...

[@Dubanx]

@@StoneCoolds BVR tactics is highly classified. It involves a ton of knowledge on your missiles' capabilities, how much your own country knows about enemy missiles, and timed actions that you REALLY don't want other nations to know/exploit. Real fighter pilots do not do BVR in DCS, and absolutely won't post a video of a BVR match. BFM is the best you can hope for, as that is (mostly) publicly available.

[@jawarakf]

USAF, US Navy, USMC fighter pilots have sworn not to reveal nor teach anything technical, not even revealing at general level on how the actual avionics work especially if Max Afterburner flown the F-15E that refitted with AESA radar, how its MFD, RWR, HUD work won't reveal. DCS unable to give us 4.5th generation teen series fighters until now because of this. He would secretly played DCS but won't reveal himself. Actual fighter pilots in other countries who played DCS said the feel is different from them flying their actual jets. The F-16C AGM-65 targeting seems problematic in DCS.

[@itsjustme8947]

@@jawarakf "Sworn"?? No. We signed lots of documents. We go to prison. (32 year USAF retiree. 18 year F-15E pilot).

[@jawarakf]

@@itsjustme8947 yes, you revealed info, the law would press charges if you're caught. That's why air force & navy pilots refused to reveal a single thing on avionics and how they operate. If you're real F-15E pilot, I'm sure you could tell DCS F-16C & F/A-18C inaccuracies on the less user friendly targeting pod compared to the real thing but you won't reveal.

[@Reth_Hard]

Is there any sources for other videos like this? I'd really like to see more of these American vs Russian flight combats. (Or any other Nation vs Nation fight simulations)

[@Reth_Hard]

Nevermind... I just found his channel (Growling Sidewinder) 😄

[@MaxAfterburnerusa]

Yeah Growling Sidewinder has great stuff. I’m going to start doing some videos as well in the next few weeks, stay tuned!

[@Reth_Hard]

@@MaxAfterburnerusa Nice!

[@JBSmoke1]

I'm a DCS player - play poorly but have major fun. I've been following you and Growling Sidewinder for a while now. Can we look forward to more cooperation between you and GS?

[@tofumar]

I think the "fantastic" may have been sarcastic

[@clairecelestin8437]

Maybe the "keeping a good attitude" was also sarcastic :D

[@viktor_v-ughnda_vaudville_476]

I love how your doing reviews of growling sidewinder it’s great he’s the man

[@EBMisKing]

These DCS videos with Ryan and Growling Sidewinder are my favorite

[@grimblegromblethegnome]

You bring some awesome content my man. Super interesting hearing the professional critiques and analysis. Looking forward to seeing videos of your flying and hearing how DCS compares to the real thing. Thanks!

[@hook86]

Great commentary! We DCS Fans really enjoy this content!

[@onyx6847]

you should check out the f15 strike eagle in development for dcs, maybe you could give them some help modeling the systems because of your experience with the plane

[@albers17]

@growlingsidwinder is awesome. deff deserve props.

[@voodoo8796]

Very cool description of the maneuvers. I think I'll get the game. Thank you for the content and your service.

[@edcew8236]

Love the commentary! But are these dogfights realistic, being so close to each other?

[@charlesrichardson8635]

Growling Sidewinder also gives a decent, well-understood, running commentary.

[@NorthTonawanda1]

What a great little niche for you. I love watching Growling, Grim Reapers, etc. It's better than TV. You get to come in as an expert and repurpose all this great content that's second nature to you. Don't you love KZbin (most of the time?)

[@JimmFozzy]

Another great video! Would love to see you spend more time in DCS!

[@JohnB-mo4kq]

When I first started watching GS, I thought he was an ex fighter pilot. His knowledge and vocabulary is pretty damn good!

[@PhycoKrusk]

Dogfights are like street fights: There are no rules, and they always end up on the ground.

[@mcguire4162]

The more realistic these simulators get, the more they become a useful teaching tool for real-world fighter pilots. Imagine if you could have Hans-Joachim Marseille as your instructor. Or Adolf Galland. You could potentially have a lot of super pilots. That said, that's where Ai comes in. Whatever generation aircraft ends up being piloted by Ai will be able to learn and adapt instantly. That is NOT science fiction. It is almost here now.

[@karjalasta]

I agree. Good point! As we know, the unmanned variant of the Su-75 is the first aircraft projected to have this.

[@aure818v]

You make GS videos educational and add to the excitement.

[@dasboototto]

I never knew Fire Marshal Bill was in the Airforce

[@Harakoni_Warhawks]

Hey Max what do you think of the F-14 Tomcat?

[@davidakes8892]

Great video

[@Jesus-Is-Lord121]

I love these vids!

[@RobertReg1]

Love Growling Sidewinder and Grim Reapers Thanks for the breakdown! God Bless

[@TheDegenerateLord]

see this is the shit i have trouble with. merging and all that. For one this situation only happens when players agree to only use guns. It does happen in open battles like the sidewinder server but it's rare you actually get close enough and you both just happen to be out of missiles or one of you, but i still want to learn, but what if you run out of energy first and stall?

[@heatblast876]

Hello max afterburner, do you see the match fight between F22 VS MIG 31, you will surprise, that match, definitely on growing sidewinder.

[@scottcmelo2338]

Max great video. I’m an NROTC MIDN with a flight contract and Im commission in a year. What should I do to prepare for flight school. I understand Air Force flight school is different then Navy fight school, but if you had any tips that would be great. I got my hands on the T-6 b student flight manual and have been reading that, but is there anything else I should do?

[@dsm3759703]

You'll be fine. As with most military schools, don't try to get ahead of the training. The US military knows how to train and will teach you from square one.

[@SimbaC2007]

Can you play DCS yourself, and vs against the highest skill AI??

[@Player_228]

Mig 29 fighting f22 : realism

[@DaytonaRider1]

Great review.

[@damianketcham]

“I will break you.”

[@snakeinthegrak8969]

The worst part about watching his DCS videos is all the dirt bandits on my phone screen.

[@komsomolac]

Hi, mate! I have just discovered your channel and I must say that I like your style of presentation! I'll sure be following you.

[@caalcb7]

GS video and former pilot react? It's time for a beer and snack then.

[@geoffgreen2105]

If there's one thing I've learned from watching Growling Sidewinder and his friends, it's that a skilled pilot can win in just about any plane, and a pilot who doesn't know their plane's capabilities and how to take advantage of them is just a target, no matter how fancy their ride.

[@LewisB3217]

Skill > gear in every facet of life lol, I’d you got the skills, you can make most things work

[@pd28cat]

haha rudder pedal raptor go brrr

[@tanberjan]

It's not the plane, it's the pilot 🙂

[@yesyes-om1po]

well, to be fair most of the dogfights are not realistic, in most modern aircraft you could just take a more boring stance and maintain distance and give the enemy absolutely no chance of engagement, like in a BVR fight against a less sophisticated but still in service aircraft, like an F22 versus pretty much any 70s-90s aircraft. A lot of it is up to chance and guesswork, you don't always know what your enemy is going to do or how experienced they may be, a rookie can do something unexpected that can throw off a more experienced pilot, and vice versa of course. It is sort of like a blind game of chess in a way.

[@miriamweller812]

@@LewisB3217 Sorry, but you can never be better than you gear. You can hope that the other is so bad, that he is unable to use that gear, but that's sheer hoping for good luck.

[@thegenericguy8309]

The 30mm HEF shells of the Flanker's gun have about the mass, fragment dispersion, and explosive mass of a typical frag grenade. Hell of a punch in those things. Like someone taped an M61 to your plane

[@Julio_Tortillia]

M61 Vulcan or M61 frag? lol

[@spinningsquare1325]

@@Julio_Tortillia I think he means taping grenades to the enemy plane

[@Julio_Tortillia]

@@spinningsquare1325 it was a joke...

[@guytrimble8171]

Great job

[@paulp1450]

Oh, and BTW, thanks for your service. Keeping our skies safe... 👍

[@LancelotChan]

Thank you very much for your insights! They're so educative! Thanks a lot!

[@Hatchbackiller]

I think the spontaneity was 100% sarcasm. Lol

[@AJLaRocque54]

Something is wrong with the link you provided for your company. When I followed the link a page from Shopify appeared asking me to finish setting up the domain. Just thought you should know.

[@valleyblog]

Does MA remind anybody of Garand Thumb

[@mrjdgibbs]

He wasn't excited it was an f22, that was pure sarcasm

[@eugeneminton2613]

i had an idea to make an rc drone aircraft years ago that had variable inlets and outlets for the incoming and outgoing air/thrust. but i wanted to mix it with something like a biplane... thou not with a wing in front and one in back but in front and back of the fusilage, offset with one slightly higher. oh and it was a 1 engine idea. the idea thou was to put the wings on rotating drums to allow them to either be locked in place or to rotate so as to allow the body of the aircraft to move independantly of their angle in providing lift. idk if that makes sense... basically you could fly it like a biplane, with 1 wing abof the other and the body pointing straight up or straight down... because the inlets and outlets would also move to keep their flows/forces (thou reduced, since it isn't optimum in that configuration) anyhow i figured it could help keep targeting and other systems in some way if not change the angle of attack for lets say a gun... idk if a missile could be launched in that configuration. well ya i wanted to make an rc of it to test it... for potential larger scale systems. idk what the g forces and such would be anyhow. i'm a dreamer and a thinker, so its just an idea i had years and years ago. i don't have the ability to actually make one, but eh its a dream right. peace. sorry, i wanted to share.

[@Shkvarka]

Best regards from Ukraine, Odesa. Many thanks to the people of the United States for supporting us.

[@dennisgunn468]

But the reality is the MIG 29 would have never danced with or even seen the F-22 because he would have been shot out of the sky from 50 miles away before he had a clue it was there.

[@laltluangkimatluanga1763]

Do more videos like this love it

[@Gabriel_McMillan]

Well done! More of the same sort of commentary, please!

[@mustang5132]

Just if anyone is wondering, most of the dogfights Growling sidewinder does are guns only.

[@V0latyleUSMC]

If you follow Growling Sidewinder you'd recognize the sarcasm when he says "fantastic" about the F22. I guarantee he wasn't happy or excited about it.

[@markbolton4142]

what do you think of the more 6th generator fighters such as a F/-XX

[@vyctordraco948]

Growling was being sarcastic about the f22.....its like fighting a leaf on the wind....with teeth and the sun behind it.

[@coltfanning4894]

More growling sidewinder reacting videos plz

[@Simon.15]

Damn , one of the best videos out there. The collaboration we didnt know , we need it . Damn G.S named a manuever the wrong name 🤣🤣

[@mikeausra6950]

SPLASH 1 GET HIM

[@clayblaze1327]

So idk if you know but the F15 E is coming to dcs soon, would be cool to see you check it out when it releases

[@Nicer_Ricer_JDM]

Damn bro you flew the Strike Eagle… I’m jealous 💯

[@bjjman95]

Bro I swear I saw a pic of you and saw the max afterburner and thought to myself "this guy just looks like he Flys F15s" 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@heavysleeper14]

Russian Air Force pilots only receive about 60-100 flight hours a year and very little war game potential. USAF pilots get about 130-200 flight hours per year with simulators and war games with allied countries. Nato pilots are required 180 flight hours per year with 40 of those hours in a sim.

[@pauljackson1744]

Good stuff

[@MaverickSu-35]

Sorry sir, it's not the FCSs "strength" (whatever that means) that keeps your plane controllable, it's the deflections angles and surface areas which create the net force needed to get the wanted moments about the 3 axis. All that the FCS can do is to help deflect your surfaces in order to dampen unwanted moments around the plane's axis or preposition certain surfaces to certain angles according to your inputs in order to not get into a dangerous AoA-Beta combination, but can't do anything magical. It's not the FCS that keeps it flying, it's the pilot's skills plus what can physically be possible! That story of an F-15 with a complete wing missing is a hoax first of and can be proven by good knowledge engineers who know their stuff that not only it would've been pretty hard to maintain 1G at even low AoA and weight, but impossible to land (requiring higher than 5 AoA). The rolling surfaces areas and deflections wouldn't be enough to keep a zero rolling moment even at full aileron deflection. Let's think with some logics and common sense, not lies.:) My regards!

[@charlesrichardson8635]

Actually he was being sarcastic about being up against a F22. I watched many of his videos and I know his sarcastic voice, BUT he never gives up!

[@Plexi417]

Hey Ryan you should really come to the DCS Dogfighters server once you get your DCS rig set up. That’s where most of the serious guys are. GS is great at what he does, but you’ll find more challenging competition in DCS Dogfighters. I’d love to hear your take on the DCS F-16 flight model once you go a couple rounds against a Hornet or a Mirage.

[@LegexyYT]

Flying one of these machine is one of the best JOB on earth

[@tirsofelipeduranmendoza5432]

U should react to Red vs Blue, its hillarius!

[@ofekk213]

Growling Sidewinder recently made a video revisiting the idea of random US jets VS Soviet jets, except in his newer video each person can only use a jet once, and that video features more types of jets aswell.

[@adioprotege]

The first fight he was sarcastically saying its an f-22. How did you not pick up on that?