Shadow of the Colossus NEW SECRETS REVEALED 2021 - Weapons, Locations, Weakpoints

[@davidgoodalls]

It’s actually crazy how old this game is and how people are still discovering secrets and piecing all of the story together

[@bennyharvey6710]

This build has only been publicly available for around a week. There were no secrets left to be discovered in the released versions prior to this leak.

[@recklesflam1ngo968]

@@bennyharvey6710 I bet Nomad Colossus was very excited when he first learnt of the build, I think it's the oldest known one?

[@hiddenkoncept08]

I never even played it and I still love watching these videos

[@m97polska]

@@hiddenkoncept08 You should definitely play it if you have a PS3 or PS4. If not try emulation.

[@tonymartinez5798]

No... they don’t

[@anthemlog]

"New secrets found in SoTC" Me: "Yeah yeah. I've already seen everyth-"

[@maxderrat]

My audience gets the GOOD s**t.

[@ArchangelExile]

🤔

[@CookieTheFemboy]

That's is what thought

[@rukathekid7853]

The game that never stops giving, forever relevant and a legend in digital archeology

[@corncobjohnsonreal]

New vegas?

[@theetaurus1832]

that’s such a fun way to put it

[@fau3058]

@@corncobjohnsonreal what?

[@TheRealOtakuEdits]

@@corncobjohnsonreal i mean both can do these things

[@MythyMoo]

I need monke colossus

[@Nouria-97]

I found a KZbinr that I subscribed to in the comment section

[@guttgrinder1626]

Yes, everything goes back to monke.

[@EggBastion]

If we toss the organ grinder a penny can we get that monke _'to dance'_

[@thegoodwin]

Reject modernity

[@thegoodwin]

Return to Monke

[@TheFatestPat]

I like the idea of Malus falling over, but I can see why they removed it. If they had more time I bet they could have made it look really cool.

[@TsiSiFa]

Agreed! The slump is sooooo goood tho

[@Katyalina]

I bet it will. But imo the current death position is more fitting. I think they wanted to make Malus’ death to be different and unique from the other colossi. After all, it is the last boss. And it is more realistic because the building were made out of a very hard and sturdy structure such as hard stone and strong looking steel. So when Malus fell on its knee, the building could definitely stop the fall as it did. It wouldn’t make sense if the building starts crumbling and breaking apart when it fall as there were no sign of corrosion on the steel meaning that the building is well built.

[@theSoundCarddatabase]

Malus falling over, was a temporary use of Wander's pass out animation (after the black tendrils hit him) if I see correctly...

[@X0FOI]

I love how nomad is given his due respect. I grew up playing shadow and watching his vids! Great job max as always!

[@QKsilver58]

Ah yes, the year 2021, where gamers are doing virtual archeology on an old demo file, truly the only timeline I want to be in.

[@solidsnake9898]

Last time I was this early, The Last Guardian was still in development.

[@megamillion5852]

You kept us waiting, you know.

[@dimostychalas9716]

Well you do like to keep us waiting huh?

[@johnniewaiker6203]

KZbin didn't exist when this game came out buddy. I bet you were not even born whit comments like that

[@cookiegamer670]

@@johnniewaiker6203 Last guardian or?

[@johnniewaiker6203]

@@cookiegamer670 oh yeah I mean Shadow of the Collossus not guardian

[@joshy-noha]

I love how the reactions are like they're archeologists finding some lost structures and artifacts. Theorizing about their possible function or the reason of their removal. Can't believe there's still stuff to be found on this game. I've been on the Nomad Colossus rabbit hole since I was in school, and there's still so much to find. Thanks Max for this amazing look at this build of the game!

[@taizarack9670]

the day we find a build with the unused colossi, is the day we strike diamond.

[@JoeMama-ll6bn]

As of 3/31/21, Ocelot has been removed as project lead due to impersonating a Team Ico member, manipulating and lying to other team members to further his own vision for the project and abuse of power. It's crazy to think about it.

[@biggiekrabs232]

Let's hope this doesn't turn into something like Fallout the new frontier where the group is breaking apart

[@AgentCali21]

Oh dam really? That's nuts

[@JoeMama-ll6bn]

@@Dynamo33 He impersonated someone claiming to be a Team Ico member, not himself. The admins also stated that they suspected it was a ruse for a while, but it's most likely bullshit since they just don't want to admit they fell for it. Teams a mess of idiots tbh.

[@nome9752]

@@biggiekrabs232 monster girl 17th colossu

[@JoeMama-ll6bn]

@@Dynamo33 it’s only on the discord currently. They need to update it everywhere else like on the wikis, etc.

[@theredeft5319]

Man I love that there are still new things being discovered years and years after the game came out. SOTC as a game is so interesting because of all the mysteries and changes with the various builds. It’s been so fun to watch people like you and Nomad over the years find stuff. I wish I could help with the fan remake of the cut content, but I just don’t know if I have the technical skills needed. I’d love to program the spider. That is the beta colossus I must want to fight. Sirius is looking great!

[@timmadone8930]

It really would have been nice if the spider colossus had been left in the game. Of course we'd like all 8, but the spider colossus would have given us a chance to once again use Agro during the battle. Plus of all 8 cut colossi I find this one to be the most unique looking. The fact that it doesn't fly or swim & walks on 6 legs instead of 4 or 2, also makes it stand out over the others.

[@dewaeryadi7776]

this is just one game, imagine the whole lost media iceberg of japanese game industry

[@thomastakesatollforthedark2231]

Just the game industry in general

[@theetaurus1832]

@@thomastakesatollforthedark2231 but the Japanese game industry

[@thomastakesatollforthedark2231]

@@theetaurus1832..... What?

[@baitposter]

@@thomastakesatollforthedark2231 They mean, even just the Japanese game industry in particular holds a bounty of lost or drifting knowledge

[@trevor8726]

Zelda ura 😔

[@truehare]

It's amazing how much this game just keeps on giving 15+ years after its release. I mean, I just recently got the platinum trophy for the remake, and now there's even more SotC to look forward to. Man, how I love this game!

[@cloudbloom]

I never get tired of more videos about this game, wether they are or aren't about uncovering new things

[@theedgypenguin4083]

I love learning more about the different versions of this game. That is nuts finding out that Barba had a sword and the other quadrant. Also Sirius looks awesome!

[@MetalGamely]

I was following this on the discord, extremely exciting. And just by the by, I appreciate the content you make, your philosophical and analytical videos especially, and it has even supported my own studies. It's seriously so lovely to have someone else being so interested and so well-learned in Jungian psychology among other topics. Keep it up Max!

[@maxderrat]

Thank you for your kind words, mate. Look forward to more stuff on Jungian psychology in the VERY near future.

[@Intrepid_Explorer]

This version has been quite the treasure trove so far! ;)

[@Jaikhay231]

Damn right. Best build we've ever had.

[@thegoodwin]

It's very insightful

[@KrateKarrot]

The placement of basaran's weakpoints never actually moved. They just covered them with armour so that they would only be exposed once he had been lured on top of a geyser.

[@thegoodwin]

It seems that in the E3 beta build that Basaran's leg weak points are more pronounced and thus hinting the player to ride the horse to hit the weak spots with the sword. As demonstrated in various videos of the E3 Basaran fight that the "Ride Horse Sword Slash" technique doesn't really work and thus have to resort to using the bow and arrow.

[@KrateKarrot]

@@thegoodwin I think that's the exact reason they covered the weak points with armour in the final version; people would assume you hit them before luring him onto a geyser, which would get confusing, So they just slightly re-designed it so that the weak points are only exposed once he's been lured onto a geyser. It's literally that simple, the whole sword slash thing is a total fabrication by ocelot (who is a known pathological liar)

[@joseagustincuesta]

@@KrateKarrot Could you elaborate on Ocelot? This video is my first time hearing about him in any way.

[@thegoodwin]

@@joseagustincuesta , Ocelot is the founder of the Behind the Forbidden Lands (BTFL) fan game. The issue with Ocelot is that he has a tendency to over-exaggerate his findings and misstate things that later found out to be untrue and misinformed. Currently, Ocelot is no longer in charge of the BTFL fan game project and someone else is in charge.

[@joseagustincuesta]

@@thegoodwin I see, thanks.

[@AlexLong98]

It's crazy to think that we're still discovering more about this game

[@ArchangelExile]

I remember playing the original demo disc and getting excited for "Wanda and the Colossus" years ago, before many people even knew that the game existed and it blows me away that so much is still being discovered and done with the game. Nothing has really officially been done with this IP other than a remaster and a remake. Only collectibles, increased performance, and better graphics have been added in. No new story, no reinserting of cut colossi, no new areas... nothing. Yet, it still thrives. It's a testament to this game's classic masterpiece status.

[@leosabat4636]

videogame arqueology or digital historian will be a profesion eventualy for sure . XD

[@maxderrat]

I certainly hope so.

[@joaocaju3061]

There is digital texture spelunking: the act of learning where does common textures used in games originate from

[@tziirkq]

I think Jason Scott (Of textfiles.com and currently working at archive.org) is an example of a current digital historian.

[@3333218]

Isn't it wonderful to be witnessing the beginning of a new field?!

[@mantistobogganm]

God I love this game. Max I love how much you've kept such a passion alive for the game among the fanbase over the years.

[@DangerNoodlexoxo]

With the smoke and the gust attack what if avion has rocs animations. The smoke effect also looks like it would be used for a character like phoenix once you put his fire out.

[@rslanna]

This proves two things: 1 - Fumito Ueda is awesome 2 - He's a jerk He could tell us about the deleted colossi, after all these years the people still want some answers and he could answer all... he's a jerk.

[@HuhWhatHuhwhatHuh]

No one owes you and the 13 people on the discord of a 20 year old dead game any explanations. That’s a lot of entitlement you got there.

[@rslanna]

@@HuhWhatHuhwhatHuh 13 people? NOICE

[@iamtrying2690]

"If you want to skip to specific parts..." No, Max. We want to hear it all. 😊 This is new, so why skip!?

[@maxderrat]

Because for a lot of my videos... the average amount the viewer watches is somewhere between 40-50% (according to the analytics that KZbin provides me).

[@MilkenGamer42]

And I thought only Nomad's videos were the only way I was gonna see new things about my favorite game

[@ZackZavage]

This was really interesting, thanks for sharing this.

[@alextownsend3289]

Just amazing. I've been playing SOTC in my PS2 again this past month, remembering the old good days and now I found more reasons to keep playing it. All these news about the fan project makes me wonder if there will be also a release for consoles or at least web store.

[@timmadone8930]

Hopefully this project will get a physical release on consoles. Or at the very least inspire Bluepoint to put out a director's cut with all 8 missing colossi put back in the main game or as an unlockable mini game. And of course full access to the very top of the main temple. With "Ghost Of Tsushima" & "Death Stranding" getting director's cuts, S.O.T.C., could be on the horizon.

[@tiagobinz9186]

Duuuude this left me with hopes for finding even older builds. One when Roc still existed, for example. By the way, how did they get their hands on this build??

[@Bunny-zg4hd]

It was anonymously donated to Hidden Palace who then released it publicly. If we want a build with Roc and the other unused colossi, we predict that a build approximately 3 or 4 months earlier than this would have them in the game.

[@pearl_of_the_orient4888]

The Shadow of the Colossus community, really is incredible! I mean, the love and dedication to this wonderful game transcends time. With the likes of Nomad Colossus, Max Derrat and more. Also that “Quest for the Last Secret” video by Jacob Geller was awe and brilliant.

[@SpaceOmega-zz6vs]

I had fun exploring this build on the day it was released to the public. I was able to show pictures of the tree being alive, "ICO beach" being very different, noticing a brand new beta quadrant (which existed in PSU preview but not solid) actually having normal collision within about 3 hours since it was released I think. I am not sure who was first though to discover this or that though exactly but it was awesome. I want to point out that there was more interesting things not shown in the video I think. There is an ENTIRELY different secret garden, one for the ending, and one that was likely designed for gameplay but can't be loaded by normal means. There are a few weird goofy designed player head models (e.g. Wander having a long nose, a big chin, spiky hair and some more) likely used for testing, and some other things too. Sadly the eastern "I" quadrants are still the same from what I know so far though.

[@VSpoodle]

can we mention what a missed opportunity it was for the remake to /not/ include the unused colossi, even as an easter egg?

[@3333218]

The unused colossi were removed for a reason. The final version of the game is Ueda's true vision.

[@3333218]

But we would all love them in a DLC...

[@OrignalElidest]

@@3333218 it seems he cut them(for some many reasons) but for the fact he felt they we're unique enough(this is me guessing). I would love to know what he would think to see someone reviving the prototype in modern day in game engine stuff.

[@EsThirt33n]

I bought the ps4 version on clearance last year, I think its time to replay this game. I played and beat the ps2 version once when it came out, and I kind of remember getting tense and scared just looking at the scale of Wander versus the colossi, especially the under water colossus, large bodies of water freak me out. Thanks for the video Max, because of your video I jumped into the rabbit hole about early builds and beta colossi that never made it, leaving me to imagine what could have been.

[@monosito59]

Anything related to shadow of the colossus feels like digital archeology. So many years later and there's still so much mystery about it.

[@timmadone8930]

If Digital Archeology ever becomes a household term, we can all take comfort in knowing that "Shadow Of The Colossus" was & continues to be in the forefront of this new form of archeology. Sure other games both before & after S.O.T.C. have been dissected, but nothing on the scale of this game. It's just another reason being part of the fan base for S.O.T.C. really feels like belonging to something special.

[@dlbyrd-gasca2730]

I liked this video Max, it belongs in a museum! Honestly, I find fan games like these to be very impressive, and interesting. Well done Max! 😄👍

[@albertgonzalez9265]

I passively love this game, might actually actively get into it! sounds fun!

[@maxderrat]

Get like NIKE and JUST DO IT.

[@KeybladeMasterAndy]

The official remake is 20 bucks well-spent.

[@jannisschaefer5776]

I literally never play this game anymore, because one playthrough is pretty much all you need to know and experience. Have had one full replay though.

[@ultraspinalki11]

Is it available on Steam? Otherwise I recommend trying your luck on finding a physical copy of the remake (if it exists). With the recent news on how Sony handles its digital servers, you might benefit more from a physical copy in the long run compared to buying it digitally on PSN.

[@albertgonzalez9265]

@@maxderrat YES 🙌

[@DanielSantosAnalysis]

I love stuff like this, so cool that all these years later we still get to see more cut content.

[@TofuSG98]

Hey Max, I just realised your mic has these roomy acoustics. Its not a bad thing it actually makes it feel more "real". Great job with the video by the way.

[@KenShinta174]

Thanks! This was so interesting!

[@kalypsodeepsea982]

Well. 1. Hearing Max all excited is hilarious and so heartwarming 💙. 2. Someone has been doing his homework 😏😏😏📒📚📘

[@maxderrat]

Tu es la deuxième personne à le remarquer. :P

[@kalypsodeepsea982]

@@maxderrat Je remarque tout, Max, comme la chanson Ximeroni qui est dans tes favoris 😏😅

[@Biouke]

@@kalypsodeepsea982 J'ignore si je suis plus étonné de trouver Nana Mouskouri dans une vidéo de Max ou de trouver des gens qui écoutent sa magnifique voix en 2021 XD

[@kalypsodeepsea982]

@@Biouke Moi, je l'écoute, Nana Mouskouri. J'adore sa voix 😍😍😍🌊🐋

[@GoofyAhhGurl]

I just stubbled upon your channel randomly and thnak god I did - this is the best thing I've seen in months!!!!

[@m_greyk8518]

thank you for this videos on this amazing game

[@maxderrat]

Thank you for watching them.

[@Lokio...]

I love your Shadow of The Colossus videos!! Keep up the good work!

[@tannercarter9493]

Man now I really want to try it out.

[@forknspon]

6:11 when your crush tells a joke

[@Greasy]

I'll always love this game and how passionate people are for it and its secrets. I still haven't played the remaster and it makes me sad :^(

[@andrewler13theundeadwarrior]

First off, Sirius isnt a dog. Hes a Boar, or a Hog. I got it off from Nomadic Wanderer. On his channel.

[@ZataMachi]

Amazing finds! Good job, guys!

[@XxLeatonSxX]

LETS GOO!!! Thanks Max :)

[@lk_profi4752]

I always feel sad in any game were there us no life because I would love to see how people looked in SotC for example,and how have their houses look.If nothing,I want more collosi like everyboy else

[@shotgunmasterQL]

If you ever feel like ending it, always remember that there's a juicier SotC beta somewhere in the world, maybe waiting to be discovered.

[@jukiepuffs806]

Avion does do a weird gust attack if you go back to the entrance and shoot them with an arrow, but only there in the latest version. Maybe that was the same one

[@hiddenkoncept08]

12years after the game which I never even played came out and I'm still watching these videos looool

[@tungnguyen-bn5ru]

Shadow of the collosus is master piece for me, I loved it, The story, The Collosi, The fandom, The Secter/Easteregg, So interested in it.

[@RitaMaSTeR]

This is amazing!

[@zacharyrollick6169]

This was my first open world game. Such a beautiful, varied, mysterious environment.

[@leandromadeireira8840]

I just will say one thing, Pelagia battle.

[@BornEvilXIII]

Pelagia battle is so cursed in this version

[@lordofPockets]

Impressive work as always Max!

[@thespartan1176]

it's impressive that this was found

[@sirforeveralone6418]

i have to say the concept for this project would work great for soul reaver 2 as well. It would still lead to raziel needing to travel in time but only for him to realize who the true enemy is earlier. That and turel would show up in his original devolved form

[@nicknightingale9822]

11:20 Emon sealing whith a piece of horn? interesting...

[@leolardie7705]

Cool video!

[@Mesadly]

Are they still making beyond the forbidden lands

[@aaronkesler1508]

This game will always hold a place in my heart as the greatest ever made. I almost bought a ps4 just to play the remaster

[@Nevir202]

Amazing that all these years later, even post re-master new secrets are still being discovered.

[@MatthewBester]

Excellent. Glad to know about the Forbidden Lands project.

[@DarkLucan92]

You should all watch "Reign Over Me." Shadow of the Colossus plays a important role in the movie.

[@Soundy777]

Your content is exhilarating! More!!!!

[@DreiGamingTV]

it's been 16 years and people are still finding new stuff about the game. This is awesome

[@ReesesBees]

we're a dedicated community!

[@yourlocalcashregister1123]

I saw the thumbnail and thought “didn’t Argus always have a sword?” And then I saw the beard

[@Straberry9567]

I just love that people still talk about Shadow of the Colossus. If Team Ico came out with a new game soon or if they made a game in the world of Colossus again I'd be the happiest :'0

[@aforiegnarchitect]

PSA: Just so everyone knows if you are getting to this video late like I did, ocelot has nothing to do with the current Beyond The Forbidden Lands project and is actively sabotaging it.

[@ostracostio64]

Why?

[@gladiusbladeofthenorth9939]

@@ostracostio64 abit late,but hes quite manipulative,and got pissed that they removed him from the team after he pretended to be a genuine sotc developer for months. He leaked a bunch of stuff that shouldn't have been revealed,stuff that the fan-game dev team had from contact with a real sotc developer,his only request was that none of the stuff he showed to the team should be leaked,because it can actually endanger his career as a game developer,otherwise he'd cut contact with them,and that is exactly what happened... Ocelot fucked over the entire fandom

[@GardenGoyle]

Malus’s death animation looks a bit like Wander’s collapse animation when the black tentacles attack him

[@yokohaloless2286]

Instant like cuz its Max and SotC

[@Evilpricetag]

I only played this game once at a ftiends but love all the fan driven content Ive had the pleasure of seeing over the years

[@swarmsovereign5158]

seeing real people with passions do what big name game devs wont because they literally fear creativity. I live for this kinda stuff

[@timmadone8930]

Wow...just wow!

[@andreyleonel255]

I mean Why don't we gather fundings to pay a team to model and animate the cut Colossi content so we can have fun? _There is some pretty talented people out there_

[@Exile_Sky]

The Subnautica community did this with the Gargantuan Leviathan, supposed to be released in full at some point (damn thing looks terrifying). They only hard part about that is console players will likely never get to play it... Granted as a console player and fan, I wouldn't care. I'd happily throw five to ten bucks in the bucket.

[@andreyleonel255]

@@Exile_Sky I remember very well seeing that gigantic skull at the bottom of the ocean, just mesmerized and sad that it would never be released What those fans did was completely amazing, that's what I am talking about! Really great to see that everything worked well Also thanks for adding to the topic!

[@leandromadeireira8840]

Could you talk about Tribute also ?, Is another project with the same objective.

[@maxderrat]

What's Tribune? E-mail me whatever you'd like me to see. My address is: [e-mail]

[@leandromadeireira8840]

@@maxderrat So, it is basically the same thing as beyond the forbidden lands, but with a small brazilian team, they have already some videos and gameplays and i think the work is going great, here's a link of the videos. kzbin.info/door/gUo5PbHSXrgax583fQ5Y7wvideos discord: discord.com/invite/UFdmfRrgqv

[@leandromadeireira8840]

@@maxderrat Sorry is not Tribune, it is Tribute

[@Mr100111100]

What a time to be a Colossus fan!

[@thetruegham6378]

And now ocelot is no longer part of the project. But it’s still goin great! They’re still working on it. And this wasn’t just ocelot, it was mostly other people. You should do an update video! Love your work! Thanks for the awesome vids

[@Jhonny.B-Good]

I just need to know if fumito was serious about that last secret involving the parachute or was just liying to us, he stated that in a interview long ago...

[@timmadone8930]

What last secret involving the Cloth Of Desperation are you referring to?

[@gamebox1159]

What are you talking about

[@bmomouse6859]

Wow, most the footage related to BTFL looks really rough (I know its a work in progress, I’m pretty sure we all know no matter how rough it looks we’ll still make sure to find out everything about it) but this model legitimately looks great. Almost belongs is in the normal game

[@EggBastion]

_You_ belong in a museum! Hohhhhh boy! This is all _awesome_

[@jeanerick8583]

I enjoy the excitement in your voice

[@ARUCARDFTEPES]

I'm glad so much love was given to this game, though I wonder why they didn't go ahead and add those cut colossi for the PS4 remake? I saw another video showing how they added all those secret glowing spots that led to a special sword added for the fans. I also think it's very showing that no one ever mentions Last Guardian, and even Ico is usually mentioned as the other game made by the team. I do remember playing the PSN demo and a seperate demo we had in the store, I thought it was cool that the save points all looked like big memory cards, but I'm glad they made them more immersive.

[@bloodblues85]

Wow, this is incredible!

[@lordkanti8260]

I always felt there was more to the game then what I was seeing, when I first played it. Without context I was only left with questions looking at the many ruins.

[@minielectricity3145]

I liked that times in E3 demo when Barba has planned to have around FOUR WEAPONS

[@andrem120]

I like how you speak . Keep on uploading. Keep on keeping on

[@0hcyris]

Omg you guys are doing god's work

[@BornEvilXIII]

Oh man, now I really want to see the Shrine with the 24 Colossi idols, that would be mind blowing to see

[@yoshiisland8263]

10:11 that's not a dog but a pig/hog, you can see the hooves it's face area is more a snout.

[@danieladownie6087]

So awesome!!

[@gildonario]

I'd love to see some new shadow of the colossus, and i guess i got it

[@ImWhyMortalsCry]

I don't know if the fan project is still being worked on or not but MAN would I LOVE to play it!

[@Nouria-97]

Will This fan remake be released on pc?

[@maxderrat]

Yes, on PC.

[@Nouria-97]

@@maxderrat do you know about the system requirements? I know no one ask this kinda question but I can't own a high end pc.

[@EggBastion]

So I went looking for more _tangible_ news/evidence and bump first of all into this indisputable old crumb of wisdom "The more attention that is brought to this project the more likely it’ll get c&d from Sony. Be careful" *_Don't tell 'em your name, Pike!_*

[@maxderrat]

It's still very early on in development. I honestly have no idea. Plus, I'm not the one to ask. I don't do any of the technical stuff for the project. :P

[@JanisTreijs]

Awesome stuff!

[@obadijahparks]

Doggo looks like a boar.... maybe add fluffy ears?.... still cute though....