Still The Best Medium Tank? - Object 430U: Tank Guide! • World of Tanks

[@MaxGamingFPS]

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[@user-sz1hp3kq2m]

I'll answer with words from Stanley Kubrick's A Clockwork Orange. In this video, you were doing "Good Old Ultraviolence". Over the opponent's team. Therefore, the question: How did you like the "Kharkiv Project?". p.s. And (in addition to tanks) we make very tasty biscuits.

[@_MrBread]

Whenever I play the 430U I get the choice in going along with the heavies or the mediums. And nobody complains which is a perk

[@falcon6329]

a little bit of correction: 113 has 7 degrees of gun depresion only on the sides. 5 forward and 1 back.

[@genzod7940]

When played and equipped properly the 430U is the best medium, it can do everything and do it well and in some situations it just excels compared to other mediums. It's an all around monster that has good armor, mobility, alpha (up to +500) and pen (340 gold). The only medium that can brawl nose to nose with heavies and many times comes out victorious. It's so versatile that it will take you time to take advantage and master all the different combat situations that you can face and come out victorious with it. The 430U does things that no medium can, not even close. Regarding the 113 vs 430U...I'll take the 430U. If you compare them on tanksgg with only full trained crew and nothing else, this is what you get: Better camo, better turret and tank traverse speeds, more amo capacity, better turret and hull armor, better terrain resistance, better aim time, same GOLD pen and better pen with reg amo. The 113 has just a few better things and not by much and I don´t think it makes it a better tank. Matter of fact, with the 430U camo, you could shoot from distance at the 113 and you will not even be detected. I play the 430U with full skills crew, orderly amo rack, venting system, innovative loading, extra combat rations and Survival Improvement T3.

[@MrSteve0311]

You're underrated. I'd love to see more of these thorough tank breakdowns.

[@yousefsangkula2557]

Hello, I just chanced upon your channel and not gonna lie, did not regret watching your review.

[@mahartma]

"Brawling medium" with dubious armor and very little mobility is a winning proposition for sure. About as useful as a random bond shopped Guard or T-34-3 in tier 8.

[@danielclesse6272]

love the T-34-3

[@Eshelion]

Interesting take, usually CCs are saying that 113 is not worth getting since there is 430U.

[@serlGlent]

I just discovered you , i like your "content quality" , and u are a person pleasant to follow !!! Good job mate!!!

[@killingtime11111116]

I love it so much first tier 20 never regretted it

[@dmitriyzhukov9193]

Great video as always, thx Max! As for me, I like the obj.430 bec T9 is imo more fun. Btw, got the Chieftain Proto from the first free Mars box. Would be cool if you could make a vid for that thing too. Thx and keep going!

[@gofast8878]

Yeah 430 is a cool tank.

[@kuhluhOG]

19:14 Looking at the gun of the UDES, it seems like it's astonished by the architecture of the building xD

[@garyhardison9265]

Haven’t played it in years, the gun just trolls me too hard even at short ranges. Typical game bounce 3-4K damage and actually pen under 2k damage

[@kingofpoland88]

Fire more gold rounds

[@user-sz1hp3kq2m]

About. 430 in, it is necessary to assemble correctly: Bon stabilizer, instructions for stabilization, a minimum of 4 perk crew, Food and 70-80% of the shells must be Komulyativamm. And also the game at close - medium distance and constant "microcontrol". Then you can safely give 2800 - 3600 damage per battle, if until now you did 2000 damage on armor-piercing shells.

[@kuhluhOG]

0:45 This smells like a good candidate for the experimental equipment imo.

[@Zugzwang__XXX]

The main reason to not is because experimental doesn't lower the chance of fires unfortunately. It does boost the fuel tank health though, so its better than hardening but not quite as good as config for the sole purpose of stopping fires. I use experimental myself cuz I have a really good fire crew

[@gofast8878]

Just got it. Toke your advice and went for stabi, rammer. Know it's not the best tank. But sill like it. Will make it work with more time

[@divanshu5039]

It's amazing how people complain about 5 degree of gun depression. Back in the day it's pretty standard of every tank who isn't an American T29 line of tanks. The are the only ones who can fight hull down. This game is getting more and more pay to win as time goes by.

[@yousefsangkula2557]

Bruh i miss the days when CDCs were the kind of premiums we get. Now the disparity between heavies and mediums is beyond me.

[@erdnuss.snackbox]

@@yousefsangkula2557 really...imo the cdc was the first premium which was better than the techtree pendants, with a high skill cap tho.

[@spysmocking4536]

This video heavily reminded me of a QB master class video, except if he actually gave good advice.

[@beyond4247]

I think 430 tier 9 is the one that lit up a lot, this one engine is at the back

[@nikosbemplidakis4095]

I just start to watch your videos man...they are awesome

[@AA-yx2kf]

Survival improvement suite works amazing on this tank.

[@failp1ayer435]

watching this, i can feel the gun depression with my neck can't look down at all

[@DarkRedZane]

21:24 *cough* 0-9 line on Mountain Pass *cough*

[@BraaapoholicBob]

Max is funny today...LOL

[@johnfarscape]

When the 430u was at full strength I think it was as good as the object 907, I had almost identical stats in them. . . WG decided it was too good so nerfed the hell out of it, surely they should have also nerfed the 907, it's like when they nerfed the Kranvan and left the Chieftain and 279e alone. . Wg really need to ever start modifying reward vehicles of buffing tech tree tgsbks to take them up to a simular level.

[@ottrakkaselg8033]

nerfed the hell out of it? really? as far as i can recall, they changed the dispersion on the move from 0.12 to 0.16 and on the turret from 0.1 to 0.12. and they nerfed the over 300mm cupolas down to 275 region. i can not really see, how is that nerfing the hell out of it. medium tank with weak spots that need gold to be penned having its dispersion nerfed is a move towards balance, not nerfig the hell out of it:) 100% with you regarding the reward tank problem.

[@johnfarscape]

@ottrakkaselg8033 I don't want to sound too much like Claus Kellerman, he generally comes across as a conspiracy theory nutter, still love his content though, but the nerfs are not always shown in the stats. . I honestly think the sigma is real, I went to snap shotting dead centre of the aim circle while on the move to suddenly every shot going to the edges of the circle, even the pen seemed to go to the lowest possible amount as suddenly I was bouncing shots on targets I would have easily penned before. . I played over 100 games in it after it was nerfed and my win rate dropped down 7% and I lost about 1200 average damage per game. . My 907 still maintained its 65% Win rate. . I have all of the reward tanks apart from the m60 and the VK and woild happily have thrm all rebalanced for the overall good of the game. . I wouldn't have minded the 430u being nerfed if the 907 was also nerfed. . If you have 1 medium that's just better than all the others it just makes playing any other mediums feel pointless. . Same with the heavies, I can't see any point playing any others than my Chieftain, 279e is not even in the same league as broken as the Chieftain can just spam gold straight through its front plate while the 279e has no chance of penning a hull down Chieftain. . . Just give it some cuppolas ffs 🤣

[@BrimstoneBrigadier]

I know this is late but i just found your channel(i used to watch quicky) i recently returned. I stopped before the sweeds were added. Im looking for a solid t10 med with good turret so i obviously want a russian but which one. I used to want the 430u (looks cool and i liked the alpha) but now ive heard it was nerfed to the ground and cant even go 50 kph. Any suggestions?

[@MaxGamingFPS]

403U is more of a heavy than a med. 50kph is not slow for this tank however.

[@perasperaadastra401]

430U is one of the best tanks in the game. I beat usually S.Conqueror fighting face to face on this tank. T3 armour, projectile rammer and vent. It definitely more versatile than 113. And of course, it is not “russian” tank, as you wrongly presumed. 430U is a Soviet Union tank, which was projected and built in Kharkiv armoured-tanks plant (Ukrainian SSR). 430U has absolutely nothing to do with russia, mate. 430U, T64, T84 “Oplot” are Ukrainian tanks. Russians are too stupid to be able to build such excellent tanks.

[@Ramladon]

I just worked to the 430U. It does bounce shots but, you constantly get ammo racked. In 3 games I was ammo racked at least once per game. Had an auto loader blow my top in two shots before I had time to repair. The E50m is German equivalent and doesn't seem to have the turret problems. I'm going to have to waste a commander point or use an equipment slot to help protect the ammo just to make the take workable.

[@heymofo1981]

Experimental survival upgraded for the win

[@Ramladon]

I play on console those aren't options. Up to 9 skills on commander and 4 equipment slots one which is used by bush outlines/pen chance.

[@camrenwick]

Very well explained

[@chadibn-based2803]

Weird I don't think I've ever had it set on fire

[@akoma.skeftomai]

J E 100 had an awesome game. Help a lot i am Greek... sometimes your voice sounds like "down under" Australia 😂😂😂

[@OaThKeeper981]

You get a better mm, you’re a semi heavy. So it’s a win for your team. More armor overall.

[@ericritchings8739]

What's your opinion on the best medium tank? I love my E50 M. Not the best at anything but very good at everything IMO, and a ram kill is the most fun you can have in this game! Lol. GG

[@MaxGamingFPS]

The best med for me would be the Leo 1. It's just super flexable and reliable gun. You don't care about what tanks you face since you are always going to get penned anyway. 2nd is 121B imo.

[@NotSo-bp9op]

@@MaxGamingFPS 121B is also 15k bonds, just like 113 BO, so why do you say avoid 113 BO but not 121B?

[@KingTheShepherd]

​@@NotSo-bp9op121b is different from it's tech tree counter part last I checked but with the 113 you're paying 13k bonds for a skin basically

[@mr.jx5n324]

so 113 video next maybe? 😁😄

[@falcon6329]

The only tank that i use bond improved configuration

[@johnhall9695]

Very interesting, I haven’t got this tank yet still time😂

[@M45KY]

Great vid as always

[@durachoks]

Experimental hardening ftw

[@TheSilent333]

I think the 430U is still fun to play, but there are definitely better tanks. It doesn't excel at anything except for bullying lower tiers :P

[@TessaTestarossa]

Just bought this last week, though I probably won't be able to get a game in it for quite a while. Can't say I look forward to it too much though, I hate derpy guns, lol. But if you don't mind me saying so, I disagree with some of the things you said about 113. For one, the gun is utterly horrendous. Accuracy is a meaningless stat, sigma dictates real accuracy and 113 just tosses shells into the ground at any given opportunity. 113 also does not really have -7 gun depression. It's only over your sides, not over the hull front, you'll very rarely get to use it. But perhaps the worst thing is that 113 peeks VERY poorly, because it's a very long tank with turret in the middle. You'd hope it'd be compensated by decent sidescraping, but no, not really, it can't do either. Also yes, 113 gets ammo racked with almost every shot into its hull. It gets ammo racked more than Conquerors or Leopards and other famous ammo rack tanks.

[@joygaming7245]

real quality content

[@krampfzwerg3724]

my first t10 nice :)

[@mappies123]

give me back the old tier 10 430 reeeeeee

[@AlexJacksonSmith]

Preventative maintenance says -70% to "engine fire" at the bottom of the list...

[@MaxGamingFPS]

You are talking about config, but yes, It will lessen the chance but it doesn't outright remove it once from happening in the game like if it was a fuel tank fire or ammo rack detonation.

[@cgm7454]

i use it every day even today and holds up well in ranked

[@Alexis-vk2id]

Excellent!

[@madcrasher1419]

Hey max great video. could u do a guide for the e100 please.

[@saburoyamasaki3526]

it’s a heavy medium which means you can push with the heavy boys and the mediums

[@steve_frenchcougar1747]

I tough you dont get the bounty bonus for équipement in spécial slot

[@Kai-wk4ir]

Bro u need to try the new experimental Hp, it helps all ur internal modules

[@MaxGamingFPS]

I know about it, but I can’t afford to keep remounting it.

[@danwatt5789]

cannot make this tank work. I think I have a 44% wr on it when I usually make 55%+ on most tanks, but then again none of my tier x tanks have what I consider decent stats.

[@user-sz1hp3kq2m]

At 10 levels, there is always some "Trash". In the form of 2-3 art, which "give an almost permanent state", there is a minimum of 2 liters (one of which is usually a wheeled tank). And also, 7 - 9 pt-sau, which "like to tear off a lot of HP, almost without leaving the circle of the base" (Beautiful "Snail Gameplay"), and several Medium and Heavy tanks ("yes, to spice up the main dessert"). Question: "Why, almost permanently get into such a circus?". If so, can you take level 9 and keep "Almost the same result" stable? With a difference of only 200 - 300 damage done between level 10 and 9? And pay 60,000 - 80,000 silver less for "Tank Maintenance?"

[@cristiancucu4100]

if it where not for the depression i may have played this instead of obj. 140

[@zeck8541]

What I always fail to understand is why people think it’s a good idea to drop an extinguisher for food on a tank that gets set of fire easily, then will drop a critical piece of equipment for modified configuration in order to compensate for the fire. You are compensating for a disadvantage that you inflict upon yourself. Go vents, rammer, stabs or hardening, rammer, stabs and use an auto fire extinguisher. You will thank me later.

[@MaxGamingFPS]

Food > Vents.

[@zeck8541]

@@MaxGamingFPS on paper, yes. Until half your tank burns to the ground and ruins your game potential. Even with mod config the trade off and risk isn’t worth the tiny (effective) bonus from food. Not for high risk tanks that burn if you look at them sternly. The reality is that the 2-3 shots of damage worth of your tank’s HP you risk losing to a fire, could have allowed you to survive long enough to get another several shots of damage out of the game before dying. Nothing guarantees that from happening more than a fire extinguisher, and it is far more valuable than the very slight bonus you get from food. You can’t continue to get damage from the garage.

[@user-sz1hp3kq2m]

​​@@zeck8541t's one thing when a tank "simply burns from a hit." And quite second, when the tank, every battle. He wants the player to complete the challenge called. "Shh, boy. Maybe you want to win the Biot or Tartsai medal?" For example: I have an award-winning Kanaervon AH. On which I decided to play. Played standard: Hardening, Sender, Fan/ Optics (For "Prokhorivka" type cards). First aid kit, repair kit, fire extinguisher. For five fights I have: Ammunition was broken 11 times. I caught fire 7 times. 2 of which burned out for 500 - 600 HP (Because if you used a fire extinguisher, you can catch fire again while the fire extinguisher is recharging) 2 times, after the BC was repaired, the Ammunition was detonated. Result: I put a layout to protect the internal modules and decided to test it all with "Pudding". For 120 battles after. I have never had a BC break, I only caught fire once. And I fully pumped the crew with Fire Extinguisher. When I have 2 marks on this machine, (Approximately 80-120 fights) I will remove the Pudding and install an automatic fire extinguisher. But I will not remove Layout.

[@sakamoto8354]

@@zeck8541 Really depends tbh. If your crew has the perks and skills to reduce fire then it's enough but if you don't have it then maybe it's worth to drop food for auto fire extinguisher (manual isn't worth it tbh).

[@zeck8541]

@@sakamoto8354 that’s the point. If you don’t have at least 90% fire on each member, it isn’t worth it.

[@ivoryofthestudygroup]

wait if you have -100% chance of getting set on fire, does that mean it just never happens anymore?

[@MaxGamingFPS]

No. Everything has a set chance of setting you on fire with each shot. (damaged fuel tanks etc will increase this chance). -100% does not mean it cannot happen. It just means it is now 100% less likely from whatever % chance it had before hand.

[@PDTeter]

my guy over here saying the 113 is better than 430u... no way man. 430u outclasses 113 in every single catagory except MAYBE gun handling

[@Captain-ck3id]

On the bounty protection tech, 4:04, you mention that engine fire is not affected. But at the bottom it does state "-70 to the chance of engine fire". Is this a bug ingame?

[@MaxGamingFPS]

It doesn't prevent an engine fire like it does to the fuel tanks or ammo rack detonation. It will however help lessen the chance of an engine fire.

[@Captain-ck3id]

@@MaxGamingFPS If that is the case, i think preventative maintenance said 31%, and the 70% from the equipment, so no engine fire chance at all then?

[@MaxGamingFPS]

Just because it's -101% does not equal never getting set on fire.

[@Captain-ck3id]

@@MaxGamingFPS i meant engine fire specifically, with this setup it will never be an engine fire right?

[@user-sz1hp3kq2m]

​@@Captain-ck3idLet's say, "The chance of ignition of the engine is 20%." (This is the "Base Chance of Engine Ignition") Then if the "chance of ignition is reduced by 70%". ( Decreases due to installed equipment ) All this is calculated according to the formula: A - ((A ÷ 100)× B) = C Where: A - Base chance of engine ignition. B - "Chance of ignition reduced by equipment" C - Result (chance after all manipulations) Accordingly, for "chance of ignition reduced by 70%" It turns out: 20 - ((20÷100) ×70) = 6 It turns out that "The chance of ignition after installing this equipment is 6%.

[@bakimc4722]

I don't know, but the top is desperate and imprecise

[@mpconcert]

👍

[@davinci69]

How do you get the different hud?

[@ivoryfoxmusic]

does the experimental turbo make up for not using vstab?

[@guardian8319]

No I run Rammer,Hardening,Vstab and the tank is great

[@guardian8319]

Use Stabilizer greasing directive and it’s mint 👌

[@cSimplicity_]

Still the best medium in my mind

[@shell4death]

Best for barbecue😂

[@gadofegaas7424]

Is this tank worth it now after the nerf or no need to grind it cause it cost allot of exp

[@PinkEyeToh]

I have it, I say its really good, very bouncy. However, it's my first tier X tank, so I might be a lil biased. Overall, I think its great (Basically like a heavy tank but in a medium rank form)

[@fomalhaut9]

Noice

[@nativoobstinado3525]

Can't stand Siegfried line map. Only low profile-good turreted vehicles can play there.

[@anjkovo2138]

Is it worth grinding?

[@PinkEyeToh]

I have it, I say its really good, very bouncy. However, it's my first tier X tank, so I might be a lil biased. Overall, I think its great (Basically like a heavy tank but in a medium rank form)

[@danam0228]

I have often heard that the 430U is best for casual players, 140 best for more serious players. Agree?

[@MaxGamingFPS]

140 is irrelevant in the current meta. 430U is much better.

[@tohkia8840]

Best med? Yeah sure if you want a free barbeque

[@djuraster]

May I interest you in ... fire est. ?

[@MaxGamingFPS]

Nope, I would like to have my 10% better crew

[@djuraster]

@@MaxGamingFPS 5% effective

[@user-sz1hp3kq2m]

Ob.430 U. "Very weak tank". Therefore, he can calmly "solo and head-on", destroy almost every heavy tank of level 10. And yes, yes "Tanchik is very weak, has problems with vertical tilt angles and poor accuracy." And in general, "it's not a comfortable machine, don't pump this branch, otherwise, they will nerf this machine once again and then it will be one less tank, which you can simply use without much effort. Destroy in Lob such machines as, for example: E 100, Super Conqueror, T 110 E3 and T 110 E4".😂😂😂

[@KingTheShepherd]

Noobs playing the 430u, I will bring back the T62A meta. You are sleeping on the most OP tank in the game and I'll show you

[@user-sz1hp3kq2m]

Tell me, what is easier to play? "On cardboard that can be pierced by throwing a brick. Is it possible on a tank that can sometimes send Ptsau level 10 communicators into outer space?" "Isn't it nice to block projectiles for gold?" p.s. T 62A, has long since lost in the "Game Arms Race". Moreover, at one time, Ob. 430, was not taken into service only because, "It was necessary to spend 1 year to re-equip the machines in the country." And ob. 140, did not go into production, only because "This engine cannot be repaired in the field." But the T 62A engine is actually a "slightly modernized version". V2K engine. Which can be repaired in the field with a screwdriver, a sledgehammer and a 14-17 wrench. p.s. I work in well drilling. On my drill press, there is a somewhat modernized and reduced version of the V2K. In reality, it can be completely repaired, thanks to only a screwdriver, a sledgehammer and a 14-17 wrench.

[@descartes2404]

I have the T62A and I can safely say, I would rather play in Leo 1 than T62A. The gun troll me so hard even in mid range. While Leo gun is reliable at all range. Armor doesnt seem to really matter in my T62A, I seem to get penned easily anyway even if I hull down(enemy Concept 5 easily face pen my turret with normal AP). Leo is more mobile, have better alpha and gun handling.

[@julianlaustsen1991]

I got this tank today and I'm super dissapointed, the gun is toally fucking useless.

[@LooxJJ]

Med tanks are useless as tits on a fish these days...btw, it just makes me wonder why would anyone still play this game...