Maxi Scooter CVT Disassembly, Reassembly, Cleaning & Checks : Yamaha TMAX Major Service : Part 4

[@jamest.5001]

I wish the GY6 was more like this!

[@marineboy4181]

Yours will someday my son... just hang in there all you have to do is save your money and by high performance parts and pay people to put it on if you can't do it yourself 😔

[@craigjewell6230]

Thanks so much for the video! This is the same exact transmission as the Kubota Sidekick RTV-XG850 . I couldn't find any guides or videos to replace the belt. We have a sheared primary sheave plate too. Now I know what it is called thanks to your video. Thanks again for sharing!

[@robertpierce1981]

Crap. It’s almost midnight. I need to finish watching this before bed. Made it up to the oil seals in the massive CVT so far.

[@fixitfunk9289]

Wow excellent job making this video ! Really appreciate all the torque specs 👍🏻

[@arief3991]

I think that you are the best scooter youtuber in my case,you are just under rated

[@49ccscoot]

Thank you!

[@davidn1562]

Great video, I am thinking on buying a 2009 Tmax with just over 12K on it, I plan to do the service on it myself I hope😊 At 61yo bad back n knee's but I'm sure you heard this story before, hope to watch all your vids as soon as I get it

[@パラムクタ-e2c]

Thank you very very very much !!! From Japan

[@just4kicks950]

Seeing the precision & craftsmanship of them welds on that framework is a masterpiece. I can sure tell we're not dealing with a Chinese scooter lol 😆. I'm getting a brand new T-Maxx this summer. Thanks Brent for the service vid , appreciated 💯🛵👊🤘

[@Racer704]

I love my Dr Pulley ON my Nmax Most people here in the Philippines cant afford them And stick to the rollers. Thanks again

[@Visionery1]

4:30, the double-sided tool is a great idea! I like the way you work, I would have no reservations letting you work on my scooter. I'm planning a similar job on my PCX150, it took me quite a while to get the right grease from Shell. It looks like the components on the TMAX are quite well-engineered, that probably explains why they last so long (I'm considering buying a 2008 with 189k kms) - long distance commuting and a FSH.

[@cousinschlappy7243]

I don't think I've ever seen one of Brent's vids where a housefly doesn't make an appearance @54:00 rofl. Easter egg hunts on every video :) I'm thinking a compilation is in order !

[@doodskie999]

Man you sound like Hank Hill, Im am just waiting to year you say Damn it Bobby! Awesome vid man, cheers

[@49ccscoot]

I may or may not sell propane and propane accessories.

[@doodskie999]

@@49ccscoot haha good one

[@robertodifiorenzza4116]

Muy buen laburo, estás en todos los detalles. Me quedan 4.000km para hacerlo, ya veremos cómo sale. Gracias por el video!

[@brentstarkes9682]

Excellent video… keep up the great work!

[@Josemanc]

Hey that's not a Variator, this is a Variator.. hahahaha. Looking good as usual.

[@faisal007af]

I AM IN LOVE WITH UR VIDEOS... THANKS A BILLION TONNNNSSSSSS

[@tarcielamandac8092]

Watch and replay sending my support

[@PotterMo]

Oww..... i subscribe this more learning and helps alot 🙂👍🏾 Thank you for sharing this 🤙🏾

[@jamest.5001]

Good day, well, I obliterated my first belt today, it started running and sounding different, I noticed my tach flashing red, and I was turning 9500+ and nearly 50mph it was running nicely just before it sounded like a gunni pig in a garbage disposal, I guess it's due to the possible overheated belt, and the pressure of the 2k rpm spring,with base bearing. it wasn't the cheapest Kevlar belt, it was like $20, it also has taken out the variator, and bushings, I haven't really gotten into it yet, but it seemed to be doing ok, just before shreading the belt, I think I'm going to get a new 1.5k spring, and new variator and belt, and spares, it only lasted about 18hours! I'm going to Carry a belt and variator, and weights, with me, I usually do, and carry tools with me, I live in a small town, no taxi service, and everything is spread all over, and could be miles between , But if brake parts cleaner can be bad for the belt, I bet gasoline is also!?! I got gas on my belt the other day, maybe a hour run time ago, that could possibly been what killed it! That and if it got hot enough to cause the TQ spring to loose tension, I guess I was sort of asking for it! I guess I'll be doing this tomorrow!

[@preslavnikolov923]

Your website helped me a lot I couldn't find instructions for jog aprio ex which is Japanese market only and it's hard to find parts and instructions for it 😅

[@robertpierce1981]

Paint an orange line on the 46mm socket so you can see rotation easily

[@samybouakel3203]

I love this guy big t max man

[@mustafaaboccy2412]

I hope bring my tmax to yours workshop

[@Justpause-pp2jr]

Wow, you are great 👍

[@jhonkwelder]

Amazing bro

[@nerps1822]

Thank you very much ,

[@itaizrihan5701]

another awsome video!

[@watsakarin2111]

Thank you so much. very helpful.

[@giancarlocrino6763]

Good explanation!!

[@dc3763]

great video man !! :)

[@KetilDuna]

Beautiful work, and thanks for all the tips. Perhaps I will undertake this myself on my TMax

[@robertpierce1981]

44:00- slider install voice. It is appreciated.

[@Josemanc]

Hey Brent. I've been reading all around in the 49ccscoot forum about Variator notching. But I can't quite grasp the idea. Any chance, as long you are taking Variators, that you can make a video explaining variators notching?. I mean for small scooters like T2 or gy6

[@legendsince]

Really love your videos! Does a lot of the methods work for a T-Max 530sx/dx 2017-2019 model? I appreciate your hard work!

[@49ccscoot]

A lot of it should be very similar.

[@legendsince]

@@49ccscoot Thanks alot!

[@elizabethmcheffey8699]

👍🏻 good job

[@jamest.5001]

I would take the driven pulley to a machine shop, and have new grooves cut into it, (if it was worn worse,) cleaning it up should be fine, but it should be easy for a shop to cut new grooves, either the same angle, or slight change of angle, I bought a new complete driven pulley set, with clutch, and swapped in a adjustable sheave, the shaft seemed like it was used, or it fell off a truck at the factory, it was a bit rough, I have thought about replacing it, the original needs bearings, it had no Grease in it, and the bearings making noise, I thought it was the clutch, so I replaced it all, with the adjustable sheave,

[@49ccscoot]

The problem is, when you pay a skilled machinist in a shop for their time, repair can cost more than replacement. There would be a lot of setup time in such an operation. Honestly, I'd try just the moveable half first.

[@Justpause-pp2jr]

May I ask you? Does it have difference between first gen. T-max and yours, in tightening the nuts on pulleys ? And my friend confirms to me that I need apply the thread lock. But I see you did it with grease on the thread. is the first gen need it ? Sorry for my English

[@JBuBlim]

Great Tutorial, may I ask what is the socket size to use for removing the primary and secondary sheave Bolt/ Nut.

[@49ccscoot]

Here ya go. All affiliate links are for 1/2" drive. Primary nut : 29mm amzn.to/3FewHBL Secondary nut : 27mm amzn.to/3qGQuWJ Contra spring nut : 46mm amzn.to/3osevxN

[@JBuBlim]

@@49ccscoot Thank You very much :)

[@Lord_Verminaard]

Really cool to see the similarities and major differences in the CVT systems of these maxi scoots compared to the smaller ones. Is the clutch on the other side of the secondary?

[@49ccscoot]

Yeah, the clutch is on the other side of the shaft that the secondary is on. You can find a TMAX "technical orientation guide" online that has some diagrams of how stuff is laid out.

[@marineboy4181]

Hey bro I have a 2013 TaoTao scooter GY6 50cc but I turned it into a 93 CC with a nitrous can I need help I messed up and got the wrong ncy high performance front axel for my front tire can you send me any links to the right one that I need so I won't be wasting my money I've seriously need help and thanks bro.

[@49ccscoot]

If it's just the axle (bolt) itself, all you need is the inside diameter of the wheel bearings that you're using (most commonly 10 or 12mm) and the distance between outsides of the front forks where the axle passes through. Length of the axle needs to be just a little longer than the outside fork dimension so you have enough threads for a nut. Thread pitch doesn't matter as long as you get a matching nut.

[@marineboy4181]

@@49ccscoot and oh okay thank you. I appreciate your quick response in your help. I'm going to try to look one up on eBay or Amazon I've been watching you for years on and off love your content as well. Happy you're back on KZbin bro you've been on active for a couple years. Though

[@emilianogallo9038]

Buongiorno amico volevo chiederti,,, possessore di un t max 2006 vorrei cambiare il variatore del2006 con quello da 12 rulli si può fare e che cosa otterrò,? Grazie mille anticipatamente

[@49ccscoot]

Polini 241.696 lists 2001-2011. This will give you an idea of what to expect from a variator : kzbin.info/www/bejne/fZbdpayke9h2g7csi=GH74s5ao9ck-s9eh

[@joshuataft5541]

I jst subbed....great channel

[@johnd.7178]

Hello great video, where can one buy this service manual for tmax ? It would be very helpful thanks.

[@49ccscoot]

I got mine on eBay used. You can find digital versions online too, but I like having the book around.

[@johnd.7178]

​@@49ccscootthank you, can i get your opinion on timing belts ? Is it okay if i put an aftermarket one or should it always be yamaha ? I'm talking about valid after market ones like mitsuboshi or bando.

[@49ccscoot]

@@johnd.7178 The TMAX has a CVT drive belt, but uses a timing chain. At least my 500 does. For the drive belt, I have only used Yamaha belts. To me, I know I can trust them so it's not worth the risk.

[@CsToey]

@6.45 What if it doesn't match the mark? 2 handbike If not, how do we find the mark? Thank bros

[@49ccscoot]

If it doesn't get installed the exact same way, it's not a big problem. TBH, I'm not 100% certain why Yamaha specifies it. I assume that it's about wear or vibration if things aren't clocked the same. It's easy enough to do, so no reason not to.

[@CsToey]

@@49ccscoot 👍👍👍❤️

[@RellyOhBoy]

22:32 That will still knock out a few teeth.

[@Justpause-pp2jr]

May I ask you? Does it have difference between first gen. T-max and yours, in tightening the nuts on pulleys ? And my friend confirms to me that I need apply the thread lock. But I see you did it with grease on the thread. is the first gen need it ? Sorry for my English

[@49ccscoot]

I've never worked on another TMAX. Just mine. Find a service manual online if possible and that will tell you. I have always used grease like the manual says and it has always worked well for me.

[@Justpause-pp2jr]

@@49ccscoot Thanks for your answer 🤝

[@thedaydreamer7972]

Awsome contect, I shreded my 50cc cvt belt, I pulled the cover off, cleaned variator and clutch, the belt had no markings on it, but I uses my math and I put in 669 18 30 belt, put it all back together and it wont start, the bike sat for a week total beofre I tried to start it,,, I tried new battery, coil and cdi, wont start, could a tight cvt belt prevent the scooter from starting? I tested for spark and didnt see any, what do you think I should try next, can I remove the new belt and try to start it? but I should still get spark with a possible wrong belt correct? TY so much

[@49ccscoot]

If you're not seeing spark, follow that path first. The belt should not prevent it from firing as long as it's not totally stopping the engine from turning over.

[@איתיגרוס-כ3ר]

Hi is there any alternative assembly lube apart from the bel ray one with the same properties? ,it's kind of hard to find.

[@49ccscoot]

I just installed a Polini variator today (on a different scoot) and saw that they use a moly style lube. Possibly worth a try.

[@ajc5601]

Question, is it ok to use WD40 Specialist solution or like KOBY CVT cleaner on the seals? Or should I use other water based degreaser?

[@49ccscoot]

I would expect the CVT cleaner to be a good choice. Still, avoid harsh chemicals on any seals that you can.

[@BoliMeKurac]

Not sure why you need to put back the sedondary in the same position it came out of?! If it has to be in a certain position it would have notches so you can only fit it one way.

[@49ccscoot]

I'm not really sure either, but the manual says to do it so I just go with it. It's possible that things would be balanced together, but I doubt it.

[@tafwos]

Hi I just owned a 530 DX model and seller had changed a variator for better performance, he told me bcoz of this replacement and the cruise control no longer working, do you think this is the reason? However seller gave me back the original stock variator and the weights too.

[@tafwos]

The replacement variator is Jcosta for 2017 530 DX model which is the Tmax that I bought

[@49ccscoot]

@@tafwos Mine doesn't have cruise control and I'm not used to bikes with it. That said, perhaps it could sort of confuse the cruise control if RPM is not where it thinks it should be?

[@robertmulcahyjr.6443]

Dear 49ccScoot. Question. I recently purchased a Kymco AK550. As you know, this scooter is basically the bastard child of a Yamaha Tmax, and a BMW C650 Sport. This scooter tends to run out of air right around 85mph....though it WILL hit 115mph if you keep the throttle pegged. It just seems like my Scarabeo 500ie (with drpulley sliders, and larger rear tire) was MUCH quicker and faster on the highways. So far, this Kymco AK550 scooter is stock. Would it be worth installing a JCosta variator to this scooter? What about bigger Vstacks and an airbox? An aftermarket exhaust? If any changes...what order would you do them in? Thx from a big fan.

[@49ccscoot]

I actually don't have a lot of experience with performance mods on the big scoots because to me the gains are small for the amount of money that they cost. If I were in your situation, I would look for a community about the Kymco AK550. Find people with real experience on that specific model that can tell you what works and what doesn't. If you're lucky, something like different rollers/sliders to get the RPM in a different range will improve it without a lot of expense or maybe you'll find that there is some identified weakness for that model, like the variator or exhaust. I can tell you that for my TMAX, I could put thousands of dollars into big boring and cams and end up with a few HP. At that rate, I thought it would make more sense to trade in for a 650 or get a motorcycle if I had to have a lot more. This is coming from someone that loves to modify scoots, but there's a point where the dollars make no sense at all. Sorry this isn't the precise answer you'd like, but that's honestly how I would handle it with my own scoot.

[@robertmulcahyjr.6443]

@@49ccscoot Thx for getting back to me, and for your advise. I have asked around on different forums, but as you pointed out, this is a very new model....with little to no aftermarket parts or mod tricks yet posted. I will continue to explore the web for what I can find out about my AK550, and will document and post pics with any changes I make. Thanks again, 49ccScoot.

[@MrFouad46]

I want to know the scale of the tool

[@yoquese12330]

Hello, can you tell me which size are the bolts? 29mm for primary an 27mm for secondary? Thanks!

[@49ccscoot]

Yes, 29 and 27mm hex. If you want the actual thread size... no idea.

[@yoquese12330]

@@49ccscoot Yes I meant the size of the head of the bolt 🙌🏽 Thank you so much! I love that detailed videos you made for us✌🏽✌🏽

[@zh4418]

Have you worked on the Tmax 530? Would that CVT be same or similar? Planning to do the same replacement. Thanks

[@49ccscoot]

I haven't worked on one, but the CVT looks at least very similar. I'd take a look in a service manual to be sure, but it should be mostly the same process.

[@zh4418]

Thanks I’ll check it out 👍

[@adamvella3267]

Hello what will happen if you dont aline the back pully ?

[@49ccscoot]

You mean with a mark so it goes back on in the same spot on the shaft? Honestly, I think it should be fine but Yamaha recommends marking to align.

[@noahthepetrolhead]

Whens the next part coming out its by the time its gona be a long one

[@49ccscoot]

Hopefully something will be coming soon. I've been sick about a month. Just a cold, I guess, but I lost my voice most of that time so I haven't done any video. Just now getting my voice back.

[@paoloworks6152]

What kind of cleaner do you use? Is it safe for oil seals?

[@49ccscoot]

I'm using Simple Green concentrate mixed about 50/50 with water, maybe 40/60. Should be fine for seals.

[@paoloworks6152]

@@49ccscoot its not available here in the PH, we use Gasoline to clean cvt..

[@49ccscoot]

@@paoloworks6152 There are a whole lot of general purpose cleaners that should work similarly and be less harmful.

[@benjaminhunt808]

I’m trying to find transmission gears and bore kit for a 16 Genuine Venture, any suggestions

[@49ccscoot]

Check Scooterworks. They carry quite a bit of parts for Genuine scooters.

[@mauriziodepaoli3600]

hi: what kind of apsy did you use for cleaning the crankcase and the variator?

[@49ccscoot]

amzn.to/3GUZEV7 (affiliate link) That, mixed 50/50 with water. I used to use brake parts cleaner, but I quit after reading that belt manufacturers don't want it used on any surface where the belt rides.

[@mauriziodepaoli3600]

@@49ccscoot ok grazie

[@4204-m3z]

What's the difference between sliders and rollers?

[@49ccscoot]

Sometimes you get a performance benefit, but it seems to vary with application. The biggest reason that I always use them is longevity. I've had much greater service life from sliders than rollers in all of the scoots that I've tried them in.

[@austinnfoster9863]

Hey man ik I haven't commented in awhile but my buddy also owns a peace pipe like you used to have. So we somewhat know the same people. I CANNOT for the life of me find a belt for my vento zip r3i if you could help it'd be much appreciated. I've tried 788-17-28 and other belts. Same outcome.

[@49ccscoot]

What's the outcome? Breaking belts? Too long or short?

[@austinnfoster9863]

To long, to wide, never the right size. It snapped the original belt awhile ago I wish I would've wrote down the size. Just didnt know if you had any idea of what size it is.

[@49ccscoot]

@@austinnfoster9863 I thought most of them used or could use the Bando 788 17 28. My Keeway Venus short case came with a Mitsuboshi 792 16.6, but I always used a 788 on it after the stock belt.

[@MastelCat]

What type of liquid did you use to clean? Alcohol!?

[@49ccscoot]

Kerosene.

[@MastelCat]

@@49ccscoot Excuse me but wont kerosene eat the seals?

[@49ccscoot]

@@MastelCat Kerosene is recommended in the service manual and should be safe for most seals and o-rings.

[@jaxcamino9356]

Hi,can I put same belt on Malossi var kit or I need different belt

[@49ccscoot]

It should work with the stock belt.

[@jaxcamino9356]

@@49ccscoot thank you for teply

[@michaelmurphy4967]

Can’t find belray assembly lube anywhere. What would you use as a replacement?

[@49ccscoot]

Yeah. I recently wanted to get more and did quite a lot of searching to no avail. It was discontinued for some reason. I haven't bought anything to replenish my supply yet, but if you google "moly paste assembly lube" you'll see some of the products that I've looked at.

[@michaelmurphy4967]

@@49ccscoot I did a lot of looking and nothing seems quite the same. Especially the temperature rating. I think I’m going to try redline cv-2

[@michaelmurphy4967]

@@49ccscoot Yamalube makes cvt greases a yellow and red. But they can only be had in Indonesia and Philippines. 🥲

[@49ccscoot]

@@michaelmurphy4967 That looks like it should be a good one. I've used synthetic wheel bearing/multi-purpose grease in smaller scoots many times, but I think this would be a better choice due to moly content.

[@49ccscoot]

@@michaelmurphy4967 Malossi makes a grease with moly for CVTs, but when I tried it years ago it seemed to dry out a bit over time.

[@daroelcasa1822]

How can I download Service Manual T-max YP 500?

[@49ccscoot]

Not sure. What I have is here. www.49ccscoot.com/manuals/manuals.html

[@stefanjovanovic488]

Hello sir , I admire your knowledge about cvt's and I'm trying hard to figure something out but I am struggling. I have a myroad 700i Kymco , and I have put lighter rollers ( from 30 to 21g) and a stiffer spring ( silverwing malossi white) but my rpms lock at 6000rpm and sometimes to 5500rpm. Its funny that my rpms were higher with 25g sliders but they kept rolling inside vario so i had to put back rollers. Also there is some strange nosie like belt rubbing or slipping or something, that I can't figure out what is causing it. When i hear that sound usually around 35-4000 rpm i can feel the light vibration on the steering wheel it almost feels like I'm riding with a brake appiled. Sometimes the sound dissapeares and the bike pulls crazy good. Sorry for long post hope you respond , thank you!

[@stefanjovanovic488]

To add on this, the sound and the "brake effect" is amplified when I have a passenger sitting behind. And sometimes it disappeares when passenger leaves the scooter and I drive alone, but also sometimes when I'm alone sound is there just more quiet. This has me puzzled.

[@49ccscoot]

@@stefanjovanovic488 That is a huge swing in weight to have the same RPM most of the time. I've only changed weight by 4g max in my TMAX and even 1g was an obvious change. Are you certain that RPM was higher with 25g? Staying that close in RPM across 11g per weight, plus a stiffer spring that should increase RPM, seems like it would have to be RPM limited somehow. My first suggestion with issues suspected to be CVT related is to do a very thorough inspection of all CVT parts.

[@stefanjovanovic488]

@@49ccscoot stock it was running ~4800 at woot. Dropping down to 28gsliders gave it 5500rpm,which would drop to 5000 once over 70kmh. Then i put in 25 sliders and it went to 6300 which again dropped to 5000 once over 70kmh. Then i put the spring and the drop was lowered to 5800rpm. Then i found out the sliders are rotating and causing that drop so i put in 21g rollers which would keep 6000 rpm througought with slight variations 100-200-300 rpm drop on 70 -80kmh. If I woot it from 30kmh it goes to 5500-5600 and not 6000. The struggle is real. I make peak power at 7200, and would love to achieve at least constant 6600. Should i consider dropping to 18,19g? I have seen tmaxes running 12g with a multivar. Which is around 66% of original weight. Thank you for your time and effort

[@49ccscoot]

@@stefanjovanovic488 If sliders are rotating, it sounds like they are the wrong size. That shouldn't happen. If you have spare rollers around that you could try removing weight to see if it works without spending more money. You would need to have a scale to keep them equal in weight though. If you can make them light enough, even half the weights that it uses could be enough (stagger them with whatever the lightest weights are that you have around). Easiest way for me is usually to drill the center of the insert in the roller larger or sometimes I take them out and cut their length down.

[@stefanjovanovic488]

@@49ccscoot i have only 1 set of rollers and sliders unfortunately, a set is $70. Even more for sliders. Dimension for both is 30x20 , I read online that it happens to some scooters that they just rotate for some unexplainable reason. I took my rollers to some shop to reduce the weight to 21g it only cost me $10 so that's not that bad. I have to find somehow the crank blocking tool so i can remove things myself.

[@panda909TV]

Do you have service manual for yamaha MC ??

[@49ccscoot]

Just some Yam scoots.

[@dantheflyinman1576]

Yo

[@dantheflyinman1576]

We’re thankful for all your knowledge 💡

[@Johnny-xi4ti]

What is the fuel consuption of the tpr 86cc scooter?

[@49ccscoot]

I haven't really checked it since it had the Peace Pipe on it and revved lower. At that point it was 40-50MPG. I think it should still do 40MPG.

[@Johnny-xi4ti]

@@49ccscoot oh okay thanks for replaying so fast keep up the good work👍

[@Josemanc]

What have you been up to Brent?

[@49ccscoot]

I've been sick for almost a month now. I guess just a cold, but I haven't been able to talk for weeks so I haven't got anything done with vids.

[@Josemanc]

@@49ccscoot get well soon Brent.

[@49ccscoot]

@@Josemanc Thanks!

[@progaragechinskiemotorki]

Ale to dziwne jest 😆

[@paulbudford]

That's pretty impressive how little wear is evident in the CVT, for so many miles. Did someone say turbo? 🤔🙈

[@GTAIVisbest]

I think it might have to do with the endless random CVT air filters everywhere! And how over-designed everything is! In my 139QMB transmission, it's literally just a metal plate that covers the crankshaft and the rear axle with the variator and the clutch. No air filters or anything, and I guess the maintenance interval is shorter because of it. I'll take ease-of-maintenance over maintenance interval length any day of the week, though

[@MrSandRune]

WRONG!.64mm wont work.Must be .50mm.The low-rev F1 ferrari in 50-60-ties had "an extra 5 degree angle to 65,because of carbu.And ignition "55 degree(??) off".

[@timothysullivan4495]

A scooter should be a 2 stroke. Might as well get a Gixxer if you want a 4 stroke

[@49ccscoot]

You're trying to teach the wrong guy about 2Ts. I hate to say this, but, believe it or not, sometimes you have to do what makes sense. Being 40+ and big with past broken bones does not lend itself well to 12 hour non-stop rides on sportbikes. I rode the TMAX 14 hours one day and the knee that I broke in a crash was really bad by the time I was on the way home, so I can only imagine how everything would feel on a sport bike.

[@shpeka90]

How i can sent u a short video

[@49ccscoot]

Upload it on your channel and send a link.

[@jamest.5001]

Good day, well, I obliterated my first belt today, it started running and sounding different, I noticed my tach flashing red, and I was turning 9500+ and nearly 50mph it was running nicely just before it sounded like a gunni pig in a garbage disposal, I guess it's due to the possible overheated belt, and the pressure of the 2k rpm spring,with base bearing. it wasn't the cheapest Kevlar belt, it was like $20, it also has taken out the variator, and bushings, I haven't really gotten into it yet, but it seemed to be doing ok, just before shreading the belt, I think I'm going to get a new 1.5k spring, and new variator and belt, and spares, it only lasted about 18hours! I'm going to Carry a belt and variator, and weights, with me, I usually do, and carry tools with me, I live in a small town, no taxi service, and everything is spread all over, and could be miles between , But if brake parts cleaner can be bad for the belt, I bet gasoline is also!?! I got gas on my belt the other day, maybe a hour run time ago, that could possibly been what killed it! That and if it got hot enough to cause the TQ spring to loose tension, I guess I was sort of asking for it! I guess I'll be doing this tomorrow!

[@49ccscoot]

I try to use Bando belts when I can. I tried Bando kevlar, but they didn't outlast standard Bando belts when I was having trouble busting belts on a non-OR CVT.