Iain Dale Roasts Suella Braverman As She Defects To Reform UK?

Journalist and political commentator, Iain Dale, gave former Tory Home Secretary, Suella Braverman, a bit of a roasting as rumors grow that she will defect to Nigel Farage's Reform UK.
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[@jameshutton3960]

If an MP defects they should trigger a bielection in that seat.

[@Scanini]

Nope, those who voted that person in have to accept the clown they voted for

[@abbofun9022]

You don’t vote for a party, you vote for a person.

[@brianjohnson9173]

@@Scanini What about a recall petition?

[@jonbob2]

@@brianjohnson9173We only have those if the MP is suspended from parliament for (I think) thirty days or more.

[@julianshepherd2038]

Not really though. Not for a long time​@@abbofun9022

[@frothe42]

Let this party self-destruct as it is well deserved.

[@jamiebee1231]

I’d rather have a moderate Conservative Party in opposition than a mad hard right reform party

[@clarecrawford9677]

@@jamiebee1231All the moderate Conservatives were purged by Boris Johnson in 2019. The rump is fighting with the Reform UK Party Limited for which can attract the most right-wing voters.

[@markwelch3564]

​@@jamiebee1231true, but a LibDem opposition is better than either of those 🙂

[@FlbcImp]

Braverman getting out of main stream politics and into the wilderness of Reform is a win win for everyone.

[@neilmccarty944]

but she is in the wilderness now with the Tories, they are just a non-party right now. In Reform she will get more air time, more opportunities to spout her bile and there are 4 million reform voters out there all ready and willing to lap it all up, especially while Starmer is floundering around trying to get a handle on the country

[@Edd5hott79]

Wilderness of Reform? I would rather be in the wilderness with less over governance than the socialist 15 minute cities.

[@lesleylamy]

Yes she going to loosing team .

[@ColinMaxwell-oc1ok]

You mean get out off the uni party swamp and join the true British patriots

[@thomasandrewclifford]

I think she comes off as too power hungry to stand wirh Farage who is himself also an egomaniac. Those 2 personalities in one party isnt going to work.

[@ncooper8438]

Good point, but I doubt NF will turn down her joining reform.

[@Steve_Coates]

It could work when one egomaniac is the majority shareholder and can boot the other out whenever they feel like it. Thinking about it Farage could capitalise on welcoming her to Reform and then when convenient capitalise on kicking her out saying that her extremism doesn't represent Reform's "values".

[@monaghan5475]

Two Rabid dogs fighting over a meatless bone.

[@susannahhunt100]

I agree, but put them together and they might just blow the Reform Party up.

[@PHDiaz-vv7yo]

Let Braverman and Farage join in Harmony in Deform. I think it’s a wonderful idea and it’ll be great for the Deform Party

[@theimperialist2686]

Braverman wants to be a Reform grifter, typical muppet.

[@Steve_Coates]

She needs something now her bookings on the American grifter circuit have petered out.

[@t2twanks]

As a labour voter I'd want Kemi Badenoch or Suella Braverman because they would be a disaster for the tories 🎉

[@Miclor54]

Kemi Badenoch has been a member of the Conservative Party since 2005 and Suella became an MP in 2015 so not exactly newcomers to the Tories.

[@davidmchale5890]

Nah it’s got to be that joker Victoria Atkins

[@bonariablackie4047]

@@Miclor54 Badenoch could pick a fight in an empty room. She was my Mother's MP and despite being asked for help with a particular matter, she did absolutely nothing. She has always been a completely useless MP, and an equally useless cabinet minster. She is arrogant, idiotic and throughly unhelpful. North Essex would vote donkey into Parliament if it wore a blue rosette.

[@MiltonMoJunction]

As a reform voter I love it when starmer gave the foreign secretary job to lammy who has called everyone who voted for brexit a nazi, but more importantly he called Trump one as well. The only thing he could do better is give the treasury job to diane abbott. It does not really matter it will be a disaster with liebour in charge it always is.

[@bonariablackie4047]

@@MiltonMoJunction Where IS Farage? In America I presume, sucking up to the Orange Criminal. Just what the people of Clacton wanted from their MP.. Any idea when Farage is going to provide his accounts on his business, known as Reform UK Ltd in which he is the majority share holder? No? I didn't think so. Let's hope he gets suspended as soon as possble. We don't need Loony Tories in the House of Commons.

[@mandycouchbean]

Too toxic for the Tories will Reform be toxic enough?

[@freddysw]

She brown and racist they will love her

[@Henbot]

Feel like she probably too toxic for Reform LMAO

[@chrisstones1249]

Oh ,you beat me too it 🤭👍

[@alanthomson1227]

I’m sure she’ll infect them to the toxic standards she requires .

[@holdmusic_]

Let’s be honest there’s no limit to the level of ignorance, stupidity and wretched, vomit inducing ‘personality’ of the people in that party.

[@badgersgetabadname]

Dale did stand as a tory candidate in 2019. He literally stood on the "stop the boats" ticket. Its way too late to pretend to have a soul.

[@bmiddleton1770]

No he didn’t 😂

[@whtwht]

​@@bmiddleton1770 Dale is an absolute clown. As of Braverman..pleas make her the Tory leader🙏🏽

[@badgersgetabadname]

@@bmiddleton1770 Yep. Had to step down for things he said about the constituency.

[@bmiddleton1770]

@@badgersgetabadname that was this year and every party wanted to stop the boats

[@badgersgetabadname]

@@bmiddleton1770 You voted tory in 2019?

[@michaelgoode9555]

I know an MP is allowed "by the rules" to move party but to be elected by one group of the public and then to swap party within a couple of weeks of the election would be such a despicable act. Abject shame and shallow dishonour awaits her or anybody else who does this.

[@Banyan314]

Summed her up perfectly !

[@Steve_Coates]

Despicable, Reform and Braverman are synonomous.

[@sandydobbie1255]

Braverman is a disgraced politician who should not be in a political position in any party !!!

[@alexhanson6577]

I have a few friends who are long time Tory voters and they are all for the likes of Braverman. They have shifted very far to the right now. They see people like Sunak as actual socialists. Yes, I know...

[@michaelclayton960]

Why are you friends with these people?

[@gerardmackay8909]

They are being spoonfed the narrative that people like Cruella are ‘real’ Tories and that somehow the party has been taken over by wet liberals. This is so unhinged and so deeply divorced from reality it really is beneath contempt but here we are.

[@entropybentwhistle]

@@michaelclayton960They think they can coexist, but the tinfoil hat set just read their quiet pal’s silence as an endorsement of their asinine ideals. If you protest even a little they lose their shite.

[@dougie6886]

It's not a surprise. Dale is not to be trusted either.

[@motorcyclemadness6006]

Is he dodgy?

[@JohnClark-ew8dh]

​@@motorcyclemadness6006 look at his attempt to become an MP recently, of course he is

[@motorcyclemadness6006]

@@JohnClark-ew8dh is he doing that in a dodgy fashion?

[@SimonPJohnson]

How is that ‘dodgy’ and how is that relevant to SB’s possible intentions?

[@jamiebee1231]

Simply being a conservative doesn’t make you “dodgy” - he just has different opinions to you

[@donstratton6343]

This just in: her application has been rejected. The reason given was that she was not nasty enough.

[@TimoDyer]

She isnt white enough for reform UK.

[@andydudley1775]

but?

[@Evemeister12]

​@Turnipstalkreform UK chairman is of indian-subcontinent heritage.

[@stevefagan3676]

Wrong colour ,

[@drunkengamer1977]

Habib didn't he get the boot?​@Evemeister12

[@grahamfigg5817]

Cruella is far too toxic and far right for Reform😂😂😂

[@jamiecole4393]

Nah man she's perfect!!!

[@DoubleDragon539]

@@jamiecole4393 Ok Himmler.

[@Shadowman4710]

No, but she's just a little too far brown.

[@crayontom9687]

Wrong colour too

[@garethjenkins6273]

Reform doesn't like her tone - her skin tone.

[@TheSandman.]

Is she really that convinced that there voters will not see her as nothing other than an immigrant lol

[@SalvageMasterEssex]

All immigrants are not the same.

[@Sc25515]

No, loads are white ​@@SalvageMasterEssex

[@LeftAndProud]

She is that deluded.

[@LeftAndProud]

​@SalvageMasterEssex in the eyes of xenophobes, an immigrant is any person who is black or brown or who speaks a language that is not English in public

[@DoubleDragon539]

She is deluded. Reform voters could never accept her, that's not how racism works.

[@candidaprout560]

Good afternoon Max and all here. Nothing from Suella will surprise me.

[@michaelgoode9555]

Ian Dale: too toxic for the tories himself ...

[@himarkburdett9378]

Said the man who slagged off his area he was standing in

[@jamesprivet]

snakes in a sack now.

[@Barralet58]

I guess Trash could also join Reform. With Anne Widdecombe we have the Terrible Trio of Suella, Trash and Widdecombe 🤣🤣🤣

[@the_9ent]

Braverman is a Brexit headbanger.

[@gunnerman79]

If she defects then she has to be recalled and call for a by-election because she was voted in as a Tories not Reform.

[@glennaustin37]

Sadly, that's not how it works.

[@alexharrison2743]

​@@glennaustin37 the rules should be changed that within the first 2 years (or, parliamentary cycles?) following a general election, there changing parties should trigger a by-election

[@paulastevenson387]

That would be a good piece of legislation. ​@@alexharrison2743

[@gunnerman79]

@@alexharrison2743 Yes 100% agreed.

[@johnlaw4513]

It’s pretty rich coming from Dale who was going stand at Tunbridge Wells until he trashed Tunbridge Wells 😅😂😅😂

[@candidaprout560]

Gold 🥇 medal of nastiness. Opportunistic

[@yt.personal.identification]

Iain Dale is clinging to the idea of what the conservative party used to be. At least it is on brand to cling to ancient history for a conservative.

[@jimmymac4778]

They deserve her 😂😂😂

[@andym.6141]

What would she do at Reform U.K., the photocopying? 😂

[@glennaustin37]

Make the tea? Two sugars, luv.

[@QALibrary]

I do not think Reform MPs will like her and not being male, white and coming from a Buddhist extreme wing or even cult (according to a lot of people who write books on cults) will cause her issues. But the question is will there be a Conservative Party left becuse they not getting any donations in (apparently that is why a lot of MPs want to move fast on the new leader) they took out a £41 million load against CCHQ just 6 months the election and they dropped so much money with SHORTs and other government money

[@stephenhill545]

They like people who betray their migrant background.

[@AmandaJAart]

​@Edward-ed1nu That made me chuckle. There I was, looking for those typos. 😂

[@ChrisSmith-yh9bq]

It was great to see them get their just desserts on 4 July. But remember that just like their last conference support for them disappeared. From Cameron to Sunak they were just awful with two truly atrocious PMs in between.

[@Claudefather]

It's funny watching these children fight amongst each other now that they are no longer in government. They are embarrassing

[@blazzz13]

What's crazy about Braverman is she doesn't seem to realise DEFORM types will never accept her as a Brit. What a shame, I was looking forward to her being leader and ensuring the Tories are in the abyss for generations

[@JohnClark-ew8dh]

And still Dale and the rest of them would have told you to vote Conservative - now look at them

[@chrisstones1249]

The problem with braverman her timing was out by 74years .🤮

[@TheTimeTraveller1890]

If we had PR, the Tories could split into the One Nations and the Nutters 🤔

[@BoredomIncarnate1]

Unless you're voting for an independent, you're more than likely voting for the party, not the individual candidate. Defections should trigger an automatic by-election, then we can see if the constituents want the same candidate in a different party, or someone else.

[@robbiehoare3802]

Exactly..in the UK we vote for the party, not the person...nb we're not the USA!!! Yet

[@jamiebee1231]

If she stands for leadership and loses I think she will join reform and just shout utter bullshit from the sidelines for 5 years

[@obtuse1291]

An mp changing parties is NOT what the voters voted for. This should automatically require another vote to be cast for the relevant district.

[@simonaragon1992]

Ian Dale is also a total muppet!

[@triffid68]

He may be, but on this point, he is 100% right.

[@walrtbstudios5430]

She’s right-wing enough for Reform, but she’s possibly even less of a team player than Farridge. I can’t see them accepting her.

[@onenote6619]

Frankly, this is what the Tory party needs if it is ever to become relevant again. The headbangers need to defect or leave. And the local Conservatives need to find some sane candidates from among themselves. I am not expecting that to happen any time soon, though.

[@bjornjonsson7037]

If she stands, she will have a chance. Don't underestimate how crazy the tory members are...

[@audreymcgready4329]

It tells me they are as nasty as she is.

[@Steve_Coates]

If the members had a free vote she would be in with a chance but the members only get to vote on the candidates the MP's select and Braverman has pissed off most of the remaining Tory MP's.

[@darshanakaivalya8748]

EVERY SINGLE TORY IS LIVING IN CLOUD COOKOO LAND.

[@SlurpyDave254]

This is brilliant...ex tories going to reform and therefore it tories all over again..they're finished😂

[@CraigEaton]

My gut says she won't go to Reform for the simple reason, she wants to be a leader and that is never going to happen while Nigel is there

[@NPC--666]

If she is a conservative she'd have left by now. Iain Dale is a wet liberal.

[@mandycouchbean]

Credit where it's due Bravo Ian Dale 👍

[@AnthonyWilliams-sh1gv]

God no

[@neilmcbeath954]

She has said that she does not intend to do so, but she may have understood that she has blown her own chance of any leadership position with the Conservatives.

[@JohnLloydDavis]

Hopefully when she goes all those supporters will go along as well.

[@DoubleDragon539]

Hades?

[@wecanworkthisout7834]

VOTE Cruella for tory leader, and we can all clap, as they finally bite the dust.

[@vijendrapatricknaryan2637]

Isn't she already a reform member ? All she's waiting for is the clown too return from usa, so he can rubber stamp it. Well thats what i was told by my reform voting friend down the pub.

[@alanpage3973]

Is it a weatherspoons?😂😂😂

[@craigedwards7062]

​@alanpage3973 What's so funny about weatherspoons, if you don't mind me asking??

[@franklettering]

This in fighting plaguing the Tories will show us the true allegiance of the sunmailexpressegraph owners.

[@aurangzebqabal8545]

Let’s all chip in and give her a one way ticket to reform.

[@richardbradley1532]

The question 'can I win?' Pretty much rules out anyone who isn't a rabid right winger.

[@jbock2753]

Part of me would love to see her take the tory party into oblivion but the reality is it would be so awful that Conservative MPs have to make sure it can never happen.

[@robertpearce8394]

Bizarre that she would join people who hate her and would deport her to Rwanda or worse.

[@gdfggggg]

That's just not the case. It's the mindset, not the colour of skin or origin of the person. Look at the standing ovation Zia (a muslim) had at the Reform convention.

[@DoubleDragon539]

There is no accounting for the convoluted insanity that is the far right mind.

[@DoubleDragon539]

@@gdfggggg Yeah you keep dreaming fascist.

[@DoubleDragon539]

@@gdfggggg I know and we know that Reform voters do not like Muslims, at all. Even far right muslim traitors...whom betray their own kind.

[@audreymcgready4329]

@@gdfggggg All useful until they are not.

[@mark_tolver]

The further Cruella is from the levers of power the better as far as I’m concerned. Ideally Reform will make the Tories bleed out as much as possible and keep them from darkening the corridors of power for at least a decade while only having a handful of seats themselves. Let Reform be a loud, noisy minority with zero power that in reality, help keep Labour in Government for the foreseeable future.

[@ChrisSmith-yh9bq]

Reform need to be destroyed if the Tories want the keys to No. 10. Reform is a convenient sink-hole for right wingers.

[@patriciamoffat1542]

Goodness knows why she is even an MP I can't imagine the type of people who would think she was deserving of their vote. She's such an angry, bitter and obviously unhappy woman.

[@marcouno4118]

Braverman is the type of person who would deport her own parents.

[@shadowofmyfutureself]

*LEADERS* is exactly our problem. The last thing humanity needs are leaders. Look where having leaders has brought us. I rest my case

[@LeftAndProud]

Anyone remember when she was called Suella Fernandez.

[@shacklock01]

Do the members really not like tuggenhat? Atleast he was a serving soldier. Dident that used to count for somehting amongst the 'patriots' of the tories?

[@mandycouchbean]

Cranks being the operative word here !!

[@annepoitrineau5650]

I have Braverman fatigue. Never hearing about her again would still be too soon.

[@brianjohnson9173]

The real question is whether the Conservative party will split into 2 parties by Christmas. And, if that were to happen, it would raise some interesting constitutional questions. For instance, who would the official opposition be.

[@DoubleDragon539]

The 2nd largest party becomes the opposition, which could well be the Lib Dems, if the Tories split into new successor parties, unless one of those successors had more MPs than the Lib Dems currently do.

[@glennaustin37]

Why would it split? What would be the difference between a much further right-wing tory faction and Reform? Surely those of that persuasion would just bail out to Reform if the tories elect a centrist leader?

[@stevenesbitt3528]

She should, Tories have been a disgrace

[@Zoltan1412]

I think a lot of the Conservatives members should leave and go to reform then

[@BandOfHarjaps]

She defeats, she takes some of the A hole members follow her.

[@mattwright2964]

There isn't anyone who could make a suitable leader.

[@lesterdsouza7662]

Reform Uk is the best place for her!

[@TringmotionCoUk]

This member question has bubbled along for a while. A few years ago a number of UKIP people took a decision to take over the local parties. It seems to have worked

[@RM-we7px]

Didn’t the host ask if Labour if they would apologize to Liz truss?

[@Mozza107]

Dale would have been out of job and in prison for his acts. And yet here is is..

[@michaelfarrow5817]

It would be great if Seasons in the Abyss wasn't just the name of a Slayer album but the description of the Tory party's electoral chances for the next 50 years.

[@mandycouchbean]

Hi Max Good Afternoon Everyone ❤

[@LeftAndProud]

Did he get upset with Suella since she ramped up her homophobic rhetoric?

[@timsimmons5953]

When the tory party truly accepts the damage of Brexit it may well start to win again. How long that will be ???

[@Ptf74]

Serious people ??? Those members will never vote for them.

[@gamingbuddies4665]

She DOES realise that at Reform party get together s she'll be asked.constantly what country she's from ?

[@abenaid11]

Never trust ANYONE who crosses the floor.

[@MrAndy76101]

I hope she knows what the Reform party folks will call her behind her back

[@leebritnell2405]

Dale is one of the most self-satisfied people on TV.

[@RichardBrook-kq8dm]

Iain Dale is in line for his own roasting. He is all over the place with his stance on this malarkey! He doesn't know which bandwagon to pitch his tent on!

[@seanmallis8391]

It's alright , you can call her on James O' Brien's show this week . Should be good craic .

[@twomeymichael2000]

She is so stupid and has no idea she is being set up Look forward to the entertainment on Tuesday Can't wait

[@Philip-x3d]

only WEAK people are afraid to change their mind, because they are worried what other people might say about them. STRONG people keep abreast of the facts and situation as a whole and modify their stance accordingly, when appropriate. LOYALTY is a different thing again, so dont use that one against me and show your ignorance.

[@simmysims9209]

Nooo! She still have so much destruction to do in a party.

[@TheBigears1]

I hope she stays and that the tory members choose her as leader. Then the tories will lose the next election as well. The majority of reasonable people see her for what she really is and so they will not vote for her.

[@twocvbloke]

Whatever she's doing, she's spinning round the plughole of doom and it's of her own doing, in fact, the tory party as a whole should start using the old British Leyland plughole of doom logo for the party, cos they're all going down the drain...

[@Azphreal]

If any MP leaves their party and switches the election should be retaken. She knows she will not be leader of the Tory party so will jump ship if she loses.

[@MarianM-mn]

Reform and Tories should dissappear

[@BarryDiegoLondon-cy9ij]

If she didn't speak so badly of the lgbt community, Iain would be quiet about it. Only when he's directly affected or offended, he speaks up. Check out what he said about striking train workers when he had a leg injury and needed assistance at train stations, vs what he said before.

[@DW-indeed]

I see a path where she tries for tory leader, fails, goes to reform, then self destruction of the party commences. Fingers crossed 😆

[@Kevinacharles]

Not exactly a surprise if she chooses to join Reform. I had thought she would as soon as she realised she wasn't as loved as she believed amongst Tories. If she's vying for power she won't have a chance against Farage. Their cult leader.

[@mandycouchbean]

Thank you Max ❤

[@DivineLove247]

Farage will be worried to have such a power hungry in the same team

[@harrystobo1738]

She should stand down and have another by-election in her seat

[@ChrisShortyAllen]

Braverman is an intelligence plant. No matter what she will be back.

[@4bawbees]

Know-it-all Iain Dale, the not-MP for Tunbridge Wells, who praised England's team for patriotically singing God Save The King , lambasting the Spanish team for not singing along to their anthem (which is an instrumental, with zero lyrics) ? Who cares what he has to say?

[@seanboland3560]

If an MP decides to charge to another political party then there has to be a local election in that constituency, this can not go on

[@ChrisShortyAllen]

No there doesn't.

[@Ayeright.]

Useless Sky. Useless Dale. Useless Braverman.

[@sanchez16]

Braverman like all Tories are abhorrent and listening to Dale who wanted to be a Tory MP but stood down just before the GE for saying he hates the constituency he was standing in is hilarious

[@geofthompson3844]

The tories are set for a long period in opposition and they are struggling to find a coherent identity. Many of the seats they lost to the libdems will be very difficult to get back and lot's of the people who voted reform were just pisses off with what they thought Labour was, but as time goes on and Labour deal with the dysfunction the tories left behind, many of those reform votes will return to Labour. Especially if a coherent response to immigration is put in place. And if reform party members keep showing their own interests are financial and not really about actually doing anything meaningful.

[@elky1883]

You should be in the house well said sir

[@geofthompson3844]

@@elky1883 thanks 😊 🤣

[@glennaustin37]

Absolutely agree. Nothing better than seeing the tories shrink further, but If they seriously want to start the process of turning it around, lurching further to the right won't be the answer. Labour's success in large part because they have moved back to the centre.

[@geofthompson3844]

@glennaustin37 culture wars and big personalities can win power, but eventually, the lack of genuine plans and competence gets found out. And inevitably, this leads to the grown ups getting back into power. I wish we could end this cycle, but unfortunately, humans are easily bored and the right wingers will fund a new personality to get behind with grand words and the sheep will follow. But for now, we have a chance to fix the mess and I'm grateful for that.

[@glennaustin37]

​@@geofthompson3844 perhaps people have wised up after the BoJo fiasco? We can only hope.

[@Allegro-wp8xf]

Dale is not a Conservative, he should be in the Libdums. Didn't he try to stand as a conservative MP but had to step down when it came to light his comments on the constituency.