14" vs 16" M3 Max MacBook Pro - Apple's Secret REVEALED!

[@MaxTechOfficial]

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[@maxrahmquist8730]

What song is that.... Bring back the old one ;)

[@shiyanth]

5:51 there is an error in the graphic where the 16 inch and 14 inch numbers should be swapped.

[@MatbiangShadap]

Thank you.. ❤❤

[@ardierr.2525]

Hello , no logic pro test this time?

[@thePunkRockMix]

yes - i mis it as well @@ardierr.2525

[@chumpvilla]

Just a heads up. Your chart on surface temps is backwards. Should be 43 degrees on 14 inch and 35 degrees on 16 inch. You said it correctly but the chart is reversed.

[@kenny7210]

And what’s more interesting, his results are quite different from my own test on 14’ m3 max. I highly doubt his results. (Unplugged and high performance mode)I tested on my 14 m3 max unit. Cinebench 2024 is around at 1580, event hits at 1605. And 71 seconds Xcode compilation. Overall performance shows Merely no noticeable performance between 16inch and 14inch, but at cost of noise and battery life.

[@JS-ih4qi]

⁠​⁠@@kenny7210so is the 14” with Max as powerful as the 16”? I purchased the M3 Max with 64 gb of ram for AI. I plan on mostly using this for video but also have a lot of browser business apps. Also plan on using bots but was hoping to download my own personal llm. Any help is appreciated!

[@AZisk]

Always go for the 16 - i outlined the many reasons to do it in a video: the 16-inch MacBook Pro provides a larger display and more efficient cooling system, ideal for enhanced visual workspace and sustained high performance. Additionally, its longer battery life makes it better suited for extended use without frequent charging.

[@skafwadie]

Even with M3Pro?

[@yuriyfromamerica3558]

I used the 16" M3 pro for the last week and found the size to be uncomfortably big (via subjective criteria). Now on a binned M3 Max 14". My work comp has been a 14" M1 Max with 64 GB and I work on one of the biggest repos out there without any thermal or perf issues.

[@AZisk]

@@skafwadieI haven’t tested heating issues yet on the m3 pro, but the issue is still 14” chassis vs 16”. not only are there other reasons why 16 is better, but just for the cooling aspect of it alone, it will be more capable than the 14.

[@AZisk]

@@yuriyfromamerica3558it’s true that if you go from a 14 to a 16, initially, it will feel too big (subjectively as you said), but you will be used to it in a matter of a few days.

[@Epicgamer_Mac]

Hey nice to see you here! Big fan of your channel as well. I agree with what you said here, specifically when you’re getting an M3 Max, which is of course the top spec (which I am). Probably M3 Pro as well. But what about the 14” M3? Do you have any thoughts on that?

[@DigiDriftZone]

Please do this test with Base 14-core M3 Max on Macbook Pro 14" - I think that is the sweet spot to reduce overheating and noise while maintaining portability.

[@kaitracid3168]

Would love to see this

[@Georgiaboy_]

Exactly. I bet the machine is plenty powerful too. And cheaper

[@Epicgamer_Mac]

Agreed! @MaxTechOfficial please do this!

[@AceCmbatguy25]

Agreed. Pricing is wild in the EU as well but at least the binned max rounds out at a "nice" 3999€" lol

[@N495illithian]

Honestly I don’t trust the max chips in the 14” body. Too much fan noise too much heat. 14” is suited for the pro chip

[@vojtechkijensky4773]

After three weeks of using a new 14" 16/40 M3 Max, I must admit that this is the best notebook I have ever used, and your review is misleading. I have a direct comparison to 14" 14/30, and the thermal management is almost the same to each other. In real life, all fans are off during the vast time of your work because the chip is so powerful that your work is done sooner than it hits its limit to start cooling. Even while gaming the AA title or under heavy load, I've never got more than 5200rpms. I would definitely recommend a smaller factor of 14" and 16/40 after my experience as a perfect choice for traveling. The performance is stunning!

[@Novapopone]

that makes both of us! He ignored the fact that you can over ride the thermal throttling which is done for BATTERY LIFE not because the 14 cant handle it... a power user will set the system to HIGH POWER MODE not positive the actual wording... but i do know that the DEFAULT is AUTO... Myself id keep it on high power default myself and only switch to auto or low when battery life matters. Even plugged in this thing is going to use a ton less energy than all the macs ive used the past 2 decades. I think his review IS misleading but i have a hunch the guy just got out his geek toy tester kit and never checked the fact that performance was ADJUSTABLE! Kinda matters.... ive seen the 14 inch trail the 16 in most all my research but by razor thin margins.... like 15000. vs. 14988. really tiny amounts. He has some massive cliffs the 14 drops off and the more i think about it... thats exactly what would happen to the 14 when pushed super hard on AUTO SETTING!!! KZbin.... you get what we paid for this review.... always cross reference

[@Joe_Brig]

Now we need a 14" binned vs non binned test. Could the non-binned version run faster because it doesn't throttle as much ? edit: corrected binned

[@Holden_McHock]

What about if you throttle deez nuts?

[@connorlearmonth665]

Wow this thread went downhill fast

[@Holden_McHock]

​@@Joe_Brig alas. I have been checkmated

[@N495illithian]

I have a 14” m3 pro unbinned and saw notably ~15% higher multi core number on cinebench 2024 vs a review of a binned model I saw online. No overheating issues at all.

[@bradleyrees6239]

FYI the 16/40 is the binned version. Binned = the better silicone, aka more cores.

[@RamasArrow]

14" should be better with 14c/30c chip. No point going for top chip only to get throttled down.

[@alexpixeli]

Can't wait for the 14/30c vs 14/40c test! I think the 14/40 is only fine for short bursts. Real Game Tests would be nice. Missed the Blender Render Test!

[@VanvanJakw]

14" 11c 14c is better,

[@vojtechkijensky4773]

@@VanvanJakw It is not, I tested it (see my comparison)

[@rubenduartepires]

I’ve got the point 14’’ 14c/30 it for 2 months now it works perfectly 💪🏾 And if you want mobility it’s perfect In my case i have an imac 5k at home that’s why i went for a 14 inch

[@alessandroloddo4703]

​@@rubenduartepirescan you tell me how it handles heat and if the fans are often in action?

[@freundchenrecords]

A comparison between the top end m3pro vs the low end m3max on a 14“ would be nice. Battery life, thermal throttle plz

[@XNa0mhAbanX]

Would love to see this comparison as well!

[@SoftwareManiacLSM]

I am SOOOOO happy I bought the 16 MBP M3 Max. If I want things throttled or slowed down, that is what the MBAir 13/15 is for! Great review.

[@gr93cjs]

As much as I love what Apple accomplished with the "Apple Silicon," yeah, no matter what, at least for now, we ended at the same point... more power -> more heat -> a better cooling system. Just think about gaming, Apple is starting to explore, but this is so much different to render because a normal gamer expects the same performance for hours of gaming, and yeah, that's the reason why we have big graphic cards, big pc cases and better cooling systems 😢😢 but it's incredible what a laptop can do these days

[@rohittkrr]

I think the cooling tech and battery tech need to improve

[@gr93cjs]

@@rohittkrr yeah for sure

[@youngfigaro]

Hey max, could you make a video comparing the M3 Pro, the M2 pro and the M2 Max? I feel like the M3 Pro isn't talked about a lot since it's release

[@JohnSmith-sh1sy]

this. I'd love to see a test between 16 M1 max and 16 M3 pro in Xcode, etc., in terms of fan speed, temps, performance.

[@MeFcb]

Same question, thanks!

[@Epicgamer_Mac]

I agree I’d love to see that especially with the super detailed tests these guys do

[@adrianruthe.]

I wanted to buy the 14'' M3 Max but than I watched your performance comparison on the exact models with the M2 Max and well, now I watch this on my 16'' M3 Max and this thing totally blows my mind! Thank you so much for your reviews! :)

[@NNox_]

Hi , How is your battery life on average ?

[@adrianruthe.]

@@NNox_ Hi sry for the late response. it is very good. when you run normal multi-tasking-productivity applications the battery will easily last the whole day or even longer. I haven't done a lot of heavy duty workloads on battery yet but so far it would last for multiple hours too. but I also try to use the battery in the least corroding way which means I try to never keep in plugged in for too long and always stay between 20-80% of charge.

[@Jeannemarre]

Try a Thermal Pad Mod on the 14 PLS !!!

[@austinthecat]

+1 there are a lot of thermal pad test on Macbook Air but not a single one on the Macbook Pro 14

[@Jeannemarre]

@@austinthecat if no one does it I will, I have my m3 max 14 inch coming Monday. Will try to write the results

[@Jeannemarre]

@@austinthecat I think they haven’t done it because before m3 there was no throttling

[@stdnk2332]

Thanks guys! I have been waiting this comparison. Would love to see comparison bw 14" Base M3 Max and 14" 16/40 M3 Max.

[@DigiDriftZone]

Yes! Not one review of the 14-core Max 14" :(

[@Epicgamer_Mac]

I agree! And as the above commenter said, I haven’t seen that coverage anywhere which makes no sense cuz boy are they all sold out at Best Buy and my local  store!

[@ji30019hq]

Another mess-up on your graphs. “Surface temp over chip in Cinebench 2024 Mulit-core” had the graphs swapped. It’s showing 35 degrees for the 14” and 43 for the 16”. Someone needs to slow down a bit and double check what they’re doing.

[@livendi3229]

It’s not enough for them that we sit through google ads before and during the videos and we click like button to give them traction. I also have to sit through them pushing products mid video. I’m done with this channel.

[@rmatveev]

11:48 - This is totaly false methodology to compare batary life! You should compare not the remaining battary but the amount spent battery. Your comparison gives almost two times advantage of 16-inch (and this advantage will grow if your test would be longer) but the real difference is 58% vs 78% - just 26% less.

[@AllgoodthingsTv]

The FCPX playback test of the 8K footage was worth the price of admission alone to this vid. I've been asking other YT's to show this. That 8K Canon footage is one of the toughest codecs out there for machines. Imagine spending as much as the 14" M3 MacBook Max costs and seeing that stuttering on playback! Totally unacceptable. I would've liked to have known whether it was playing back at "Better Quality" and what the frame rate was as well.

[@MaxTechOfficial]

Yes better quality. 24fps I believe

[@AllgoodthingsTv]

@@MaxTechOfficialThanks! Was there any stuttering on the 16" ?

[@HDRPC]

​@@AllgoodthingsTvyes you can see in the video

[@jamfin6644]

Complaining about 8k playback on a 14” laptop is silly no matter the cost. Build a PC or get a desktop replacement (like the 16 mbp or the Mac Studio)

[@REALjackiehu]

I mean… It’s a laptop, portability absolutely should come to priority.

[@crestofhonor2349]

Always preferred larger laptops. Bigger screen, larger battery, and better cooling. Overall makes for a better experience for me personally. The extra weight and size feels like nothing to me. Plus the screen is big and I would want to experience that 16in MiniLED in it's full glory

[@document6]

The 16” is very portable .. ppl truly overdo it when they say it’s “too big” it’s super #thin even in the padded case I got for it, and it easily fits in my various backpacks

[@santiagobaquerovilla7266]

True

[@Strawhat..]

+

[@joseph_p]

Depends on what your needs are with regards to portability. Carrying it in a backpack to/from work? Totally portable. Frequently needing to do work on a plane? Not so portable.

[@jamfin6644]

The problem isn't the 16" alone, the problem is people who carry multiple laptops. That's me. I have no problem with the MBP 16" as my solo driver, but for work we use a 17" inch ultralight, and to stay relevant in my spare time I carry around a 14" windows laptop (my work laptop has 16gb and can barely manage 2 VS instances + several chrome tabs). I would love to develop on a mac for work long term, so that's 3 laptops not including any other accessories. I travel for work weekly.

[@pedrog4651]

It’s heavy and much larger than the 14”. Those that use it on a plane or a local coffee shop will notice the huge difference. Even putting on your lap while in campus is harder with the 16” mbp. It’s great if it mostly to be home or taking it to commute to another desk..

[@mariotriforce]

Im still getting the 14 inch 😅

[@espi742]

Hi Max, could you compare the M3 Pro and M3 Max in the same form factor? particularly interested in the impact in battery life.

[@suburbanflyer]

I'd like the same comparison but for the 16 inch if it's possible

[@CatacombMan]

I wish they just made all M3 Max macbook's work the same quality. Greed! Greed! Greed!

[@Origon09]

Bro normally I like your tests. But these are like extremes. Just buy whichever fits your lifestyle. 16 in isn’t the most portable. And you shouldn’t decide your entire decision on a stress test. Unless you actually would ever stress test the machine. 95% off users will never need type of performance. Go in a store and go mess with them and see which size fits you better. Don’t make decision on a 5-10% difference that you will never encounter (battery life aside)

[@Origon09]

@@WorksOnMyComputer I completely disagree with you. I bought the m3 max 14in. I'm a software engineer, I do virtualization and have multiple ide's open at once, while pushing to external monitor, with other things going on in the background... And the computer isn't breaking a sweat. "getting your monies worth" for the 16 is maybe saving 20-40 seconds... and that's only if you are actually doing anything that would push it to its limits. Which once again 95% of users will not do. So don't waste the extra $300, unless you like the size of the 16. because you will not throttle it.

[@shukailin8233]

@@Origon09 I like your reply a lot! Since I’m not an engineer, and looking to waste money on the maxed out version M3 Max 14 inch (I want to game, and I just love buying the best for my feeling), could you please tell me, if I were to max out the performance (which I doubt is likely) to the point where it’s throttling, would putting a cooling pad underneath help it? Since in the video mentions it’s the “chassis” that’s overheating, and not the chip. I trust in your reply, since you’re an engineer who’s looking for portability like me. Thank you!

[@Origon09]

@@shukailin8233 I don't think a thermal pad will help the situation. From what I've heard they don't work that well. But you should be fine. Depending on what game you are playing. Just kick the settings down a bit and I don't believe anything you play will overheat it. There is a couple videos of people playing Baldurs Gate 3 and Lies of P on these new M3 Macs and they don't seem like it overly taxes the system. Just do your research.

[@shukailin8233]

@@Origon09 Understood. Thanks for your reply man!

[@FxpNtur64]

Great video! I’ve been waiting for that one! Thank you Now we need the 14 inch max chip binned and unbinned one 😮

[@sebastianfeistl]

At 5:51 it seems like the chart is flipped. The 16'' should have the lower temperature.

[@poulanderson2053]

👍Very informative, a huge thank you 👍 for this comparison using M3-max (top tier 16/40)! It follows the same pattern you identified for the M2-max (top-tier) 14" & 16" models. If you happen to have access to this laptop... I'd be very interested to see an addendum to add the ***14" M3-max (lower-tier 14/30)*** to the comparison to see if the lower CPU/GPU count would fit more neatly into the smaller thermal envelope and resolve the thermal 'bottleneck', as there is also a considerable cost difference between the 14" M3-max (14/30) and 16" M3-max (16/40). If the lower tier M3-max 14" 'fits' more neatly into it's smaller thermal envelope to enable it to fully utilise its CPU & GPU cores; then don't you think it would offer a very good value option for those who want portability (pehaps also use an external screen), don't need quite as much processing power but still need a computer for intensive tasks. 0.5kg difference in physical weight aside, the thing that I find heavier is the idea of carrying the larger 16" fully specified laptop about worth more than £4K in my bicycle pannier between meetings! 😧 Your review of the 16" M3-max (14/30) was really helpful in that respect.

[@2nd-place]

The only reason to get the 14" is for portability? Really?? Did you forget the part where it's also $500 cheaper? That is not insignificant, lol. I swear, out of touch KZbinrs with their KZbinr money drive me crazy. The fan noise and heat will only be an issue for the few minutes at a time when you're rendering something. These chips are so fast that render times don't take very long. Most of the time we won't be pushing these things to extremes like you did for 90 minutes straight in this test video.

[@MaxTechOfficial]

It’s only a $200 difference with these M3 Max 16-core models.

[@77dris]

Anybody else think you are going to have issues trying to get on a flight with that power bank? LOL

[@JJ-fq3dh]

Good review BUT you need to improve fan noise testing. You saying more noise and less noise is totally meaningless unless you put a microphone near the laptops so we can hear it , and measure the noise level in db. Not very professional and just using trite verbiage when talking about noise levels does not help when making a purchase 😊

[@Robm_ph]

Can you please test the top m3pro 12/18 cores and base m3max 14/30 cores on 14 inch display as well ? It would be nice to know if this happens on these models too

[@ZacharyJohnson1337]

Good thing most people will go for the M3 Pro instead of max, or at least not the top of the line $6k one. Would love to see the same test on M3 Pro machines, considering its thousands of $ less.

[@pedrog4651]

I think the M3 pro with upgraded unified memory is doing a much better job on the 14” chassis than the M3 max. Battery last longer and has less hiccups.. only a few seconds or a minute difference when performing heavy tasks.

[@Fliptricksftwdude]

Look at the GPU performance of both chips. Huge difference between M3 Pro and M3 Max

[@vintagewander]

I agree also, the M3 Max is only suitable on the 16 inch chasis, not only that, but it seems like once again apple is capping the Max chip on the 14 inch to only draw 40W, (meanwhile the 16 can go up to 62W) even with that, the 14 inch machine still throttles and fans spinning full speed. But then asking for a smooth 8K preview on a small laptop is a bit much to ask for, overall the base m3 pro chip really goes well with a 14 inch, and for someone who needs extra performance, might as well go for the 16 inch with m3 max

[@Cervocns]

Your review of the M3 Max's heat issues was really helpful. I always enjoy and find great value in your content because you deliver sharp and timely insights. I had a similar impression with your review of the M2 Mac's SSD, and once again, your video is really good this time too.

[@psysword]

yup going with the 14 and cooling pad

[@benedeklippai0203]

Intel cpus in macs: *overheating* Apple: *ditches them* Apple cpus in macs: *overheating* Apple: *visible confusion*

[@emdwyer7331]

Oh no! I'm a dev and just got notification my 14" M3 max with 128GB RAM 8TB storage shipped. I should return it immediately, right? Kidding.. benchmarks not particularly real world for me. Went with the M3 max for extra memory, and 14" for portability. I have a 16" M2 Pro for work and it's great but a bit unwieldy for me unless it's on a stand plugged into an external monitor. I'll be coding, bunch of IDEs, running containers and VMs for dev and pen testing. Extra RAM will be useful and hoping the M3 max will be good for short bursts without throttling. Can't see myself really pegging the CPU a whole lot.

[@cellocamara]

You’re ok with the 14” size ? I’m dev too, and don’t know which size should be better.

[@smokesmoke1576]

@@cellocamara 14 has worked great for me.. but im considering going to the 16. trust me the 14 inch is amazing. I need to stop watching these videos

[@cellocamara]

@@smokesmoke1576 I’m pretending to get the 14” m3 max with 36gb ram 1tb. I think this videos tells us that 16” is better but I don’t think it’s a big difference

[@6XCcustom]

apple calculated that the TSMC N3B node would be better than it turned out, so now apple is in a precarious situation The MacBook Pro M3 has fewer transistors than the MacBook Pro M2, less bandwidth, fewer ports, worse fans, which causes problems with heat development so that the cpu throttles to name a few changes for the worse for the M3 chip externally, Apple made no changes to the MacBook Pro 2023 model when will my I mac get a major overhaul, the fact that this still uses a lightning cable for the accessories says something about how often apple updates its computers M2 Pro has 40 billion transistors, 200GB/s bandwidth M3 pro has 37 billion transistors 150GB/s of bandwidth Not the increase transistor density by about 33% compared to 5 nm TSMC states you should get "according to TSMC has stated that its 3 nm chips will reduce power consumption by 25-30% at the same speed, increase speed by 10-15% at the same amount of power and increase transistor density by about 33% compared to its previous 5 nm" but it didn't happen with the N3B node and it affected the M3 for TSMC N3B is not good but apple had no choice but to use this fuse.wikichip.org/news/7375/tsmc-n3-and-challenges-ahead/? The N3B node apple uses is far from fully developed so the TSMC N3B node is not much better than the M2 node which is based TSMC N5P even if apple wants the consumer to believe it and try to get customers to buy products based on TSMC N3B just because these are made on 3nm but an unfinished one with a bad prestandard That the N3B node had problems you could already see on the A17 pro chip, it doesn't come close to what TSMC states that the 3 nano meter node should be able to achieve neither in energy efficiency nor in performance and Apple's M3 chip is based on the A17 pro architecture Qualcomm Snapdragon 8cx Gen 4 which, according to tests, has the same or better capacity than Apple's M2 chip Qualcomm Snapdragon is based on TSMC N4 nodes which are now well proven and have good yield as it looks now, the TSMC N4 node is no worse than the TSMC N3B node so that Qualcomm's new Snapdragon uses TSMC N4 is logical apple jumped on the N3 node too early with the consequence that this performs worse than what a 3nm node should do according to TSMC and what apple hoped for TSMC N3B has a very bad yield rate of just 55%, far below the standard which makes this extremely expensive to manufacture now Apple only paying for qualified circuits TSMC pay the rest TSMC sees it as a development cost to get a working 3 nm production with a reasonable yield rate technode.com/2023/07/17/tsmcs-3nm-yield-rate-reportedly-just-55-with-apple-only-paying-for-qualified-circuits/ when TSMC has better control of 3nm manufacturing and better yield, which TSMC will probably get with the N3P node that TSMC expects to come out in 2024 i had waited until apple release the M4 chip before i had upgraded to a new apple MacBook Pro and kept my M1 M2 I MacBook Pro these are enough for 99% of all users there are too few advantages to upgrade to an M3 machine at the price apple wants I also attach a video that shows how greedy apple is if they want they can have replaceable SSDs see below kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4OanmeXit17ma8si=HZGHGS-jb8HO4Trc I'll end with something funny kzbin.info/www/bejne/m3zQZmCgirmFg68si=2Q_M6PGGXMaCasZj kzbin.info/www/bejne/kGarnKCQpZJsbM0si=GWaVlVPuySgO26LI

[@ecceaufx3207]

@MaxTechOfficial I would be REALLY interested in an in-depth and real-world comparison of the M3 Max 14 core (binned) and 16 core (unbinned) versions. Especially when it comes to heat and noise production :-)

[@MaxTechOfficial]

Doing that right now! Expecting on Sunday, Lord-willing.

[@bladerealm124]

⁠can't wait to see the results of that. It seems you may be the first to run that test as I've been looking everywhere. I have a 14" 16/40 64GB arriving Monday but now I'm wondering if it can even take advantage of the extra cores ovdd the binned model, and how much worse the fan noise is.

[@bribeiro]

@@MaxTechOfficialour hero

[@TheUAProdigy]

I see this completely the opposite way, where the 14 inch makes the most sense and you save 500 bucks for roughly the same performance.

[@MaxTechOfficial]

It's only a $200 price difference if you spec it out the same way.

[@AlexeyKhvatov]

Dear @MaxTechOfficial, I appreciate your work, but I noticed a mix-up in the values on the graphs in a couple of your latest M3 videos, particularly in "surface temp over chip in cinebench..." and some of your previous videos. Please double-check. Thank you!

[@The-BigBoss]

Test and compare all in low power mode. The M3 Pro is the only model with 6 efficiency cores!

[@andycuyler6675]

I still bought the 14 inch so much more portable and looks better as well in my opion !

[@digitaldevigner4080]

To be fair some users do prefer size and weight over a sliver of extra performance. It’s kind of a given a smaller less expensive model might be a tiny bit slower. Apple could have a dedicated chip just for the 14” that is slightly slower but they don’t. They give us the full chip and shorter tasks will be much faster because of it. The longer tasks are still insanely fast and the only thing really impacted are bragging rights. The 14” Max in no way is a bad but. It’s a killer laptop much more capable than the 14” Pro. The entire point of a laptop is to be light and small to take with you on the road. That’s important to a lot of users that do want to balance usability vs performance. Plus not every user is editing 8k raw video or gaming on a Mac. They could be performing a lot of tasks on the go where they want more performance but don’t want to lug around a larger and heavier laptop to get more performance.

[@arjunaangkasa99]

indeed, the only reason i had a macbook , is portablity.anything larger would just defeat the purpose,imho.

[@edwarddebruyn8717]

Would have been nice to see a 500 RAW to Jpeg exports from LR instead of 50...Friendly greetings

[@FiliniS]

5:57 Confused the values of 14 and 16 inches

[@Epicgamer_Mac]

Oh nuts! I was hoping I could go 14” this year… looks like nope I I want the most performance! Thanks again guys, you’re doing so great work 👍 I really hope to see a binned vs full M3 Max comparison soon 🙏

[@cguldogan]

Buy 14'' then, this guy keeps changing his ideas and two weeks later on he will tell why he switched to 14''

[@Epicgamer_Mac]

@@cguldogan well, I certainly get your points, I think that to be fair to them, they are coming from a certain perspective of pro users, who need every ounce of performance. They said that if you don’t need all the performance and portability is your main focus, go with the 14 inch. But go with the 16 inch performance is your main deciding factor.

[@yuriyfromamerica3558]

@@Epicgamer_Mac Keep in mind that this comparison has high power mode enabled. If the power mode is set to auto, fan noise and performance may be near identical. Also, synthetic benchmarks that max out CPU and GPU only matter if your workflow has similar loads. I would buy the one you like, test it for a week, and decide if you need the extra thermal headroom.

[@Epicgamer_Mac]

@@yuriyfromamerica3558 That’s true, good point about high power mode. I do think the extra battery and screen size of the 16” might be worth it for me, all things considered, but I know some people (my Dad for example) who really should be going 14” this year.

[@Lost_In_LA]

I ordered the 14" binned M3 Max and can't wait to get it. Apple wasn't really promoting the 16 core M3 Max in the 14" as it was buried as an upgrade option choosing the binned Max. A better comparison would have been the binned M3 Max on both the 14 and 16. This guy pumped up the 14" when he felt a need to dump on the 15" MBA. Don't sweat it.

[@HomeStudioWannabe]

I’d like to see a thermal/fan/noise test between a 16” M3 Max 14cpu/30GPU vs a 16” M3 Max 16cpu/40gpu. I’m hoping the 16” 14/30 runs quiet for complex audio production projects with Logic Pro. I’m looking for the fastest quiet MBP (with the least amount of GPU overkill 😊). A friend says he’s never heard the fan on his M1 Max used for audio production. I’m hoping the 16” 14/30 M3 Max can do the same, but with even more power. Thanks for your videos!

[@chriscasillas]

Portability isn't necessarily the *only* reason to buy the 14 inch. Maybe someone is getting a Pro machine but they know they aren't going to push it to the max with their workflow all the time. In that case, the 14 inch would be totally fine for them.

[@ericmatthews8497]

Or just suck it up and let it throttle... Sacrifice the power for more portability.

[@kenny7210]

I don’t know if there are any mistakes you made. I tested on my 14 m3 max unit. Cinebench 2024 is around at 1580, event hits at 1605. And 71 seconds Xcode compilation. Merely no noticeable performance between 16inch, but at cost of noise and battery life

[@bladerealm124]

Which config do you have? How was the fan noise been?

[@kenny7210]

@@bladerealm124 when performing heavy duty load on high power mode, fan spins at 6500rpm。My unit is M3 max + 48 +1T

[@Novapopone]

@@kenny7210 you NAILED IT Kenny.. what this reviewer totally FORGOT was to set it to HIGH POWER MODE so on auto id did throttle some... terrible oversight

[@bradleyrees6239]

I feel like in a stress test I would expect the smaller one, to get hotter and throttle more, surely thats a "given" though? Same reason desktops -> laptops. Be interesting to see a comparison with a real world task, rather than something designed to blow it up. Personally I've always preferred the 14, just find it more flexible and... it is a fair bit cheaper - the bigger screen, fans etc aren't free, worth mentioning that those things come with a $$ attached to them. It's also worth considering that the 14 with a cooling pad (which are very cheap), may be able to produce exactly the same performance as the 16.

[@daveadams6421]

It's not looking good for the M3 MBA which will have serious overheating issues

[@peterotremba8980]

Omg, I love these comparison videos!!!

[@teckno_senpai]

BUT WHAIT A MINUTE... THE 14 INCH IS THROTTLING AGAIN!

[@teckno_senpai]

(thats what she said)

[@djaminad]

would love to see a 16" M1 max vs 14" M3 Max

[@jessejayphotography]

Thank you for doing the timeline performance comparison!

[@HFProductionsComp]

Need to test the BINNED 14 inch M3 Max to see if it matches that smaller cooler any better

[@nuclearchef-san8304]

The TL;dr (too long didn’t read) on this video if you compare spec for spec ,the 16 inch versus the 14 inch models, yeah the 14 throttles all that performance you want , just get the 16 inch M3max at base specs, and work up your way from there on whatever you need most!

[@alc5440]

That's a bummer. Unfortunately, the 16 inch is a hard no for me. I tried it when the retina display was only available in the larger size and hated it. Honestly 14 is pushing it. I wish they'd made the 14 inch a little thicker to accommodate cooling required to take advantage of the additional power.

[@toastonastick9381]

38 core m2 max vs 30 core m3 max comparison?

[@iamfrankstallone]

Every time I hear Max say "Guys" take a shot. All I hear is Slack's bot, "Did you mean crew?".

[@simonb.979]

I travel a lot via train, and a 14inch is just so much more comfortable to work with if you have limited environment space.

[@Ivan_1986]

Interesting to see how MacBook Pro 14 with 14 CPU / 30 GPU cores M3 Max chip does.

[@raheelmohammed7966]

One thing I hate about the MacBooks is the notch. I wonder why the iPads don’t have it

[@PassiveSmoking]

The 16 inch machine should also have a longer operational lifespan too, because li-ion batteries hate excessive heat and they hate deep-discharges. The bigger machine's better heat rejection should preserve your battery capacity for longer, and the bigger capacity to start with should mean less need to deep-discharge/recharge the battery pack, also contributing to a longer lifespan.

[@petergasparovic2439]

The M3 Max MacBook Pro is magical, but it lacks, for example, a small progress -> Thunderbolt 5.

[@NatmanFilms]

*Can you please do a TEST with the 14" Apple M3 Max chip with 14‑core CPU, 30‑core GPU - 36GB - 1TB. Thank you kindly.*

[@Hi-how-are-you-today.]

Can you please compare the 12/18 core pro to the 14/18 core max? I haven’t seen anybody else comparing the two?

[@rahul.puthussery]

I think the surface temp over chip graph got the labels mixed up, 16” was running cooler

[@terryjun]

Did you make sure to turn on high-power mode on both? Curious if that makes a difference.

[@BornAgainFarmGirl]

I owned the 14 inch M3 MacBook Pro with the M3 pro chip and returned it 2 1/2 hours later to a FedEx drop off point. I have never been so disappointed in an Apple laptop that I I can’t even express how disappointed I was ! I set it up completely, but once I started doing my regular content that I would usually do, it became painfully clear that I basically just bought a more expensive iPad Pro 😢. The screen looked exactly like my M1 12“ IPad Pro , totally not good enough for me. I’ll instead buy a Mac Studio instead.

[@fitzman7]

Interesting. What kind of work do you do that made the 14in M3 pro chip MBP not worth it and was there anything else that was an added issue other than an unimpressive display compared to your M1 iPad pro? I'm genuinely curious and would love to know. I was thinking about getting this device originally but I decided to wait for the M4 pro chip model instead awhile ago.

[@BornAgainFarmGirl]

@@fitzman7 hello I appreciate your response, honestly I don’t really do a lot of technical computing or photo editing and videos. I do have a KZbin channel. I do make an edit videos so that is mainly what I use my computer for and it’s been a real asset to me with my iMac. However, now that I want to move forward and try to get a more powerful machine because it was an Intel iMac they released it I don’t know 2017? I guess in any event this MacBook that I received reminded me of my 12” digit iPad Pro with M1 and well for the $3000 that I paid for it. It should’ve acted and behaved better than that. I realize that I don’t know all the technical terms but I am definitely a tech junkie in Heart ❤️. Also I recently purchased the Apple Studio display to use with my iMac and it is gorgeous, I love it. I guess the Mac M2 Studio is my next purchase.

[@MrLeonardoVZLA]

Nice! Max can you make a video comparing the binned M3 Max against the none binned 16 inch?

[@jlf_]

The PowerBank looks like a bomb and will get you in trouble at the airport 😂

[@Novapopone]

Im shocked no one asked this or pointed this out. In the past i read apple throttles etc to balance battery life and performance. No ability to avoid that. You did NOT mention if you checked the HIGH PERFORMANCE setting on the 14 inch. The 16 rarely or never throttles for all the reasons you pointed out... but one of the things I read and why i still went with the 14 inch, was that plugged in or on battery power the 14 inch has a selection (ive read) that is somewhat new or unique for macbook pro... and thats HIGH Performance mode... it may be high power mode... either way is it allows for the fans to spin up faster and for the performance to not be 'as' effected as your tests. I cant say for sure because you did NOT mention it.. but my hunch is you did NOT select hi performance mode allowing the 14 inch to run hotter and eat away battery life a bit faster as well BUT perform better... not than the 16... but much better than your tests. I found this refreshing... i want full power and dont care about heat or fans.... and if you select the BATTERY ICON on the menu bar... you can see that the DEFAULT setting is AUTO... which would do what your tests show... why?? because it clearly cant keep its battery life solid AND keep up with the 16 on high work loads. It assumes mobile users value that battery life which is true... but its VERY nice to be able to over ride this while using it as a desktop... You can set the 16 inch as well on HIGH performance setting but as you found out... it pretty much never had to throttle due to obvious advantages in case size and the larger battery is helpful. I saw some make buying decisions based on that and that is sad to me... these Uber nerd geek tests never look into apples settings or what can or can not be over ridden.. also techniques during rendering that can keep things cooler. I guess its entertaining when he acts overly shocked or surprised... it took me 5 minutes when researching top level performance specs, to find out apple has this high performance setting that again...is NOT THE DEFAULT... on my machine it always will be at home.... and ill adjust it for road trips... but all in all these amazing machines last so many hours you should be able to get a loooong days work in entirely unplugged before bedtime... charge her up and repeat... lol... I am psyched for the first time finding an apple laptop with truly pro level speed!! A dream.

[@ManavC-bs3fj]

As someone who owns a base model M1 Pro 16” from 2021, the fans don’t even turn on during a cinebench 2024 run.

[@ohokcool]

@ 13:05 “if you’re a gamer who will be playing games” I’m a gamer, but it’s MacOS so whether or not I will be playing games depends on the direction of the video game industry lol, please support Mac, I hate Apple as much as the next guy but there’s just nothing like a MacBook, it’s a thing of beauty that I so wish I could find elsewhere

[@GWVEEN]

Will the 14/30 m3 max also overheat in the 14”?

[@stingreen]

Same cpu and specs and see how 14 inch is beaten up at least %50 on exports. Apple should invest more on cooling R&D rather than making the CPU faster.

[@Icecold_Art]

I guess that we'll have to wait to be on that optimized 3nm process for lower temps and better fan noise for that higher end configurations. I personally am Sticking to my my 13'' M1 Macbook pro for my photoshop work on the go and will get the M3 Pro Mac mini, good enough for most tasks anyway...

[@arlencarlson]

Yes, I am betting their M3's this year are not using the optimized 3nm process. These machines were sort of rushed to market for Apple to be first to the game. If rumours are correct, next year the M4's will be a re-design with the new process. Waiting to see what happens then.

[@Icecold_Art]

@@arlencarlson What I found over the years, that's it's best to hide under the rock for some hardware releases, do not research, do not be temted to "upgrade" as we usually do not evem need them. It's just marketing teams doing their job to sway you to think you DO need to do it. To be honest My M1 Macbook Pro served and still serves me well, only think I wish I had is more ram, but that's no always the problem as well. But having that extra 2GB ram instead of 16, could possible be the sweetspot.

[@ohokcool]

@ 13:05 “if you’re a gamer who will be playing games” I’m a gamer, but it’s MacOS so whether or not I will be playing games depends on the devs at this point

[@ErnieSesameStreet]

If there is a test to import a few hundred raw photos to Lightroom or Capture One for 14 & 16 inch that will be great. I hope in the future the speed to process raw photo can be the speed to process jpg

[@haroonvlogs5437]

I am typing this on m3 base model with 16GB ram and 14 inch. I have had this for almost a week and so far not a single time a fan has kicked in. this thing is solid as a tank. I am debating weather to keep this or upgrade to m3pro base model. so far this thing is literally incredible. just wow. it will be my laptop for next 5 years minimum. battery life is amazing on 14inch for me. I love the portability. 16 inch is too big for me. (I upgraded from iPad m1)

[@shameermulji]

In your case, I would jumped to the M3 Pro model. The price difference isn't that great and what you get in return is worth it.

[@lauracollins1366]

Well looks like I’m getting the 16” one. Running the 15.6” 2018 Intel MBP

[@ardierr.2525]

Hello for music production purpose i dont know if it s possible to set up a limit to temp and/or fan speed ?

[@mejlgaardbliddal]

I am very happy with my 16 inch M1 Pro and I bought it for exactly the reasons mentioned in this Video. I do not need to move it around a lot and I really like the extra screen real estate as well as the extended battery life of the 16 inch.

[@adamsarlatanondrejka5684]

5:50 there is a misstake in temperatures 14” and 16”

[@edwinmartin622]

Nice thing 😊

[@PDASEX]

With hours of research, I’ve come to realize the 16 Inch is the most logical choice with the M3 Max chip. The assistants at the Apple Store were very adamant about pitching the M3 Max 14 inch to me. I even ordered the M3 Max 14 inch online and my payment was put on hold because I forgot to give my bank a heads up that I was going to be spending a lot more than usual that day. While I could have just returned the 14 inch if I didn’t like it; I’m grateful that I continued doing further research on these MacBook variations even after I ordered it because it’s possibly saved me a lot of time, money and energy. Even though I appreciate the size and feel of the 14 inch, I realized that not going with the 16 inch would be an atrocity considering the price I’m already paying and the performance I seek to achieve with this machine. I’d be playing myself! I’m used to experiencing a hot dry climate, so I can’t imagine having to possibly deal with annoying fan noise from the 14 inch over working itself, struggling to keep the MacBook cool and operating at a max capacity, which limits the boundaries in which the M3 Max chip was designed to perform. I will be getting the MacBook M3 Max 16 inch instead. Besides, I’m looking for a durable machine that can optimize my tech experience with plenty of screen space to not feel limited on the go. With a longer lasting battery and a cooler running system; I don’t mind dealing with the extra weight and space of the 16 inch. For me, that’s a sacrifice worth the confidence of optimum efficiency. My goal is to feel empowered enough to ditch my desktop should I feel obliged to do so and to have a machine that provides the freedom to explore other technological abilities should new endeavors spark my interest.

[@MalcolmREBORN]

Wait, so the speakers aren't actually located underneath the speaker grill? Wow how does that make sense? Engineering is hard!

[@MaxTechOfficial]

I believe the chambers go underneath the other side of the logic board, up to where the grilles are at.

[@MalcolmREBORN]

Thank you very much Vadim (or Max)@@MaxTechOfficial

[@AmerDawod]

The 14" is always a "Pro-Chip" Machine , The 16" is always a "Max-Chip" Machine , 16" with a "Pro-Chip" is an overkill and 14" with a "Max-Chip" is a Performance Sacrifice But its good to have the option to choose which chip you want afterall 😅

[@fitzman7]

You are exactly right!

[@Rob_Kandels]

Could you do a test with the m3 max and an intel i9 with a 6800xt egpu ? I’m looking to upgrade but would like to know how much of a difference it will actually be. I use my MacBook Pro for video edit in davinci and like to use heavy color correction/grading and smart caching

[@ThatTimeTheThingHappened]

I am seriously impressed with MacBooks….but seriously, they need OLED screens. The miniLED is just not cutting it.

[@alexsolovyov3322]

The portable charger looks like a bomb, so I'm not sure if it is airline safe

[@mat33o]

Good material. One thing, you're recommending 16" over 14", but you didn't mention about their price.

[@shaocaholica]

Wow way too thick remember how thin the intel MacBook pros were. This is a step backwards. Give me a laptop I can fit into my Gucci folio.

[@livedreamsg]

Ah, this is disappointing. I love the 14" form factor, but I'll have to get the M3 Pro.

[@NinjaKiller1022]

This comparison is the reason I’m glad I got the 16”. I don’t like hearing any fan noise, especially if it’s coming from a device that you payed bookoo for.

[@azexy21]

Can it run crysis tho

[@MusicZtorm]

Just searched "thermal"or "Overheat" on the Max tech channel. Nearly every macbook are concerned

[@marcusrauch4223]

Since the M1 generation I’m wondering why the Max wasn’t 16“ exclusive, as this doesn’t make sense to me in the 14“. The 14“ is much better suited for the Pro.

[@Neomobius]

I agree. The 14 is a M or M Pro machine. The M Max just runs better than the 16.