Lunar Lake x86 vs X Elite ARM chip in the SAME Laptop!

[@MaxTechOfficial]

Check out the Viewedge CS27QK 27" 1440P & CS24FK 24" 1080P Monitors using this link ➡ www.amazon.com/dp/B0CSS6XN6F?maas=maas_adg_797DEBA32126242A18 Check out the Lunar Lake Dell XPS 13 ➡ www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-laptops/xps-13-laptop/spd/xps-13-9350-intel-laptop/usexchcto9350lnl01 Check out the X Elite Dell XPS 13 ➡ www.dell.com/en-us/shop/laptops/snapdragon/spd/xps-13-9345-laptop

[@sharnabiswas4435]

Sir can you please give me a laptop? I badly need a laptop but unfortunately I can't afford 😔 please sir it will help me a lot

[@auritro3903]

@@sharnabiswas4435 No.

[@jungervin8765]

@@sharnabiswas4435 Then a buy a laptop, not these 13 inch toys my god.

[@stevin2204]

Max, can you test real life test for multicore, since video editing will be much better on Lunar Lake, since it has much better Decoding and Encoding Hardware. Actually, most of the tests show that Lunar Lake is faster than Meteor Lake in real life editing video.

[@jasonluvisi]

So basically Intel's new gen just made Snapdragon irrelevant. A boost to multicore in arm optimized workloads isn't worth the lack of compatability. Identical real world performance and battery usage = Win for Intel.

[@elrondes1]

But if you listen to this "reviewer" he still recommends the Snapdragon x elite despite not even running his favorite game and numerous compatibility issues. I can't with this guy, thought it was a parody 😂😂😂

[@stresslessflex6389]

​@@elrondes1 I think he's praying on the downfall of Intel. He wants all tech to be from Taiwan.

[@rowaystarco]

@@stresslessflex6389 These Lunar Lake chips are based on TSMC chips though.

[@stresslessflex6389]

@@rowaystarco I know, Intel is working with tsmc while they have to in order to stay alive, but in the future they plan on competing with tsmc as a foundry. Seems like this guy doesn't want them to live to see that.

[@rowaystarco]

@@stresslessflex6389 I welcome all competition, that's why the new ARM windows chips are important as well.

[@woofinu]

Unless you have other data, I think 46 vs. 43% battery is within the margin of error. There can be sample or run variations which are larger than 3%. I would consider the 2 equal in battery consumption and weigh multicore performance against risk of incompatibility.

[@yaroslav7328]

Finally some non-Apple content. Thanks!

[@arafatrahmanshihab5268]

Yeapp

[@sagarchandarana8592]

Major benefit of Lunar Lake is Linux compatibility. That's what matters to me. Eventually that may change but it's still going to require custom boot loaders and what not.

[@akin242002]

Oh, I forgot about the Linux distro options. Even greater win for Intel Lunar Lake.

[@MrIng03201]

You can build a Linux tunnel in Source forge Repo and create your own OS image, but Luna Lake is already done.

[@abd5139]

i don't know how the battery life would be like on linux for lunar lake, technically linux supported arm for ages now, when the kernel will totally support the snapdragon chips, it will shine more than windows on arm i hope

[@Psicoeducazione]

Why not WSL? It should be well supported on ARM.

[@MainInternetUser]

Soon Linux will be better on Snapdragon, because of the number of software made for ARsm on Linux, also Qualcomm is invested in Linux

[@BolusTube]

You missed one important difference, Lunar lake laptop support 99.9% more games and software than the x elite .

[@kevinnguyen163]

you missed one important part of the video, see 8:43

[@iagomorandi6543]

just for now, until Steam is working to create a steam deck with ARM

[@okman9684]

Until Nvidia starts making CPUs with Mediteck 🗿

[@PKperformanceEU]

How unfortunate that we valuable high quality guys dont give a shit about gaming. Take the L x86 and get a real pc thats ARM64 based

[@MrEnyecz]

@@PKperformanceEU They are used to testing Apple, so they know nothing about games. Actually they tested LoL. :)

[@AgentZeroNine1]

Yeah, the no compatibility issue is a greater pro than twenty minutes more of battery life.

[@MLWJ1993]

You should probably run a laptop in balanced mode anyway, not performance... 😅

[@Durayne]

Even more so, what does the increased theoretical graphic or compute power help me, if I want to play games. And yes I know there are different workloads from gaming, but also then everything normal will simply run on both machines.

[@jomsies]

Arm’s biggest pro was battery life. When the lunar lakes exist there’s no poiny in getting snapdragon anymore 🙆🏻‍♀️

[@infernal-toad]

AMD Ryzen strix point: Am I a joke to you?

[@gw7624]

Apple M4 says hi.

[@kartikpintu]

​@@infernal-toadkinda yes

[@PropertiesForSaleInJamaica]

Compatibility outweighs the extra performance by far though

[@iagomorandi6543]

Eventually apps will be compatible, in 2025 we will have a rain of ARM chips in laptops and the apps that are left out will be replaced over time...

[@PropertiesForSaleInJamaica]

@@iagomorandi6543 but a lot of apps will still not get updated and games :(

[@sgwong513]

@@iagomorandi6543 for now I can't accept eventually. I want it to support now, if it is not, then it's useless for me.

[@someonetooknuggets]

​@@iagomorandi6543 Qualcomm cancelled snapdragon dev kits

[@Gyooopp]

​@@iagomorandi6543we will never have, snapdragon is backing off after the sales cut off

[@MichalBrat]

Some 5% difference in battery life in exchange for tons of compatibility issues? Nope, sorry, Snapdragon, not this time.

[@TERN666]

Also, isn't the Intel laptop's display a lot brighter in this video? WTF? That totally screws up the battery test.

[@1974best]

5% in continuous testing.. but how well does intel hold up in standby... It has been an ongoing issue with windows and intel in battery drain in standby.

[@kartikpintu]

​@@1974bestpretty good if you test it yourself

[@drvel]

Was waiting for someone to compare these two, thank you :)

[@abhishekkm4455]

Idk for reviewers but for consumers it's a long term investment. So compatibility is a major factor. Not only games but in x elite many apps are incompatible.

[@andresj89]

I bought a Lunar Lake Lenovo with 32 GB of RAM and 1TB of storage for 1340USD

[@PixelatedWolf2077]

How is it so far?

[@andresj89]

@PixelatedWolf2077 it'll be here on Monday, it's going to replace my current Lenovo slim that I bought in 2018. Lenovo offers good quality at reasonable prices

[@dareemmanuel6079]

Please test the difference plugged and unplugged and fan noise if you can. Thanks

[@TechLiberator]

Right with you bud. Also did the same. Arm can dig itself a grave.

[@PixelatedWolf2077]

@@andresj89 Alrighty thanks for the recommendation! I own a Samsung Galaxy Book 3 Ultra(?) with an 11th Gen and it's battery is good, but the iGPU is bad so I can't use it for light video work. I'll look into the Lenovo ^^

[@theothernodude3139]

One thing to point out is that the X Elite only exists thanks to the people that made the M series chips on Apple devices. Lunar Lake being x86, AND competing close to the power/efficiency of X Elite, while having pressure against AMD is a major accomplishment for a company that people were considering that it was lagging far behind. It literally took them 4 years to catch up from Apple, and less than a year to catch up to Snapdragon. without the help of any of the arm team. Not just catching up, but also exceeding in some benchmarks. That's pretty dang impressive in my book. I'd also call that a win.

[@rowaystarco]

But with the use of chips from TSMC, as their own "home built" chips are not good enough.

[@kartikpintu]

​@@rowaystarcohow much of that fact means anything to the customer. A working pc is far more important than a working pc on intel node. Do you even hear yourself?

[@anupammahato1]

No video editing test? No data transfer speed no lightroom test no photoshop test?

[@PoliticalMatter]

Not everyone does editing like you?

[@mouna5252elle]

Video editing ? Are u a youtuber ? Well most people arnt this review is made for real people use case not for the yutuber's one

[@amigosan]

​@@mouna5252elle not only youtubers do video editing there are a lot of people working in a lot of artistic fields that would need at some point to do some editing, and i'm not even talking about people that could do this for anything else than youtube / not working in artistic field anyways, not a big loss not having the benchmark of those adobe software (+ adobe sucks as a company), but would still have been a good thing for data purpose

[@mouna5252elle]

@@amigosan i get it but these guys would need to get a desktop for the best experience and speed + any modern laptop can handle editing with acceptable speed so no need for this benchmark if you're making money out of it just get a desktop for better productivity that means more money for you

[@amigosan]

@@mouna5252elle yeah you're correct, those laptops are not meant for heavy workloads, and such people should only use those for occasionnal, light editing for sure and if anyone needs a laptop to be his only computer (which will be used for "heavy" work) then of course he should invest in a computer wiht specs that will fulfill his needs, and not an ultra portable that is targeting efficiency etc...

[@pweddy1]

The funny thing about multicore performance on a machine that has 12 cores, unless you were specifically using the CPU to do 3-D rendering *without a GPU* (which you would probably never do professionally) there’s very few cases where you’re going to spin up 12 cores.

[@pisachasrinuan7960]

Yea, these are for Thin & Light laptops People who do 3D, rendering, multitasking professionally should get a bigger laptop with GPU, a desktop PC, or work on dev servers. These small laptops are mainly for light daily use like, web browsing, streaming, office document work, casual gaming, etc.

[@DielsonSales]

People dismiss the multicore saying few applications use it, but modern operating system rely on multitasking, so multicore does definitely affect your experience using the system.

[@justinliu7788]

@@DielsonSalesyou should just run heavy multithreaded applications on a different laptop

[@mortaza3840]

Can you compare webcam also ? I want to see the ISP of these SoC's…

[@leakyabstraction]

Are you kidding me that you left out real game testing just because a single game didn't run? Now I have to spend extra time to find an actually proper review.

[@Jzguan]

I've been scrolling for days. Waiting for a comparison!! Finally i found u. Can u plz do more indepth such as macbook 3 vs lunar

[@MaxTechOfficial]

Yes we already did M3 MacBook vs Lunar Lake

[@federicovalmassoni3827]

Nothing about video editing and Lightroom exporting, almost the only things which matter to me 🙃

[@Hasib-CR7i]

Agreed bruh

[@LouisDuran]

I can almost guarantee that Lunar Lake will be faster. Video editing can take advantage of the iGPU on the Intel laptop. The iGPU on the Qualcomm laptop is much inferior.

[@federicovalmassoni3827]

@@LouisDuran What I actually think too but I would like to see it in a real comparison 😊

[@akin242002]

From other reviews, Intel Lunar Lake does well in photo editing work. 2nd best to MacBooks.

[@federicovalmassoni3827]

@@akin242002 Thanks 👍🏻

[@Wild_Cat]

Lol @ 46% vs 43% battery life, with numbers that close it doesn't matter! Only a smart person would choose the Inte Lunar Lake, this guy says "if you don't want any issues then you get the Intel Lunar Lake laptop" of course, why would anybody get the Snapdragon X laptop when it's only 3% better battery life but has issues with applications... nobody should be recommending Snapdragon X laptops.

[@1974best]

you forgot the performance in multicore... 33% is quite a bit...

[@SuperMachead1]

They canceled the snapdragon dev kit…so I would be Leary about future compatibility with software on windows on ARM….

[@inamulbhuyan]

@@SuperMachead1 Snapdragon desktop chip comming soon

[@SuperMachead1]

@@inamulbhuyan what’s the difference between the desktop and the laptop ?…and why is that relevant?

[@MangoPickleGaming]

Devkit is not needed anymore since there are plenty of options from other OEMs. They will just release mini PC with OEMs

[@Betancourtdm]

You can use any retail unit as a dev kit

[@silliesttitan7668]

The battery is inaccurate, you restarted one PC and played League of Legends on the other. Woh and behold, the one you played league of legends on has a lower battery than the one that had a second of rest.

[@fidelisitor8953]

Wrong. He didn't play the game on the ultra model it was just sitting idle.

[@TeeTiz]

That’s actually misleading. Way beforehand, he had did the multicore Cinebench tests, after which the X Elite Laptop had 72% and Lunar lake Laptop started to trail with 70% battery life. He literally restarted once (which literally takes less than 2 seconds for modern laptops, and has minimal to zero influence on battery life tests). He never played LoL on the Lunar Lake. And literally the Lunar Lake only trailed by around 3% (even if you want to factor in the restart) it would theoretically trail by 2% in the end…

[@tonyhan7295]

Rebooting a device actually takes even more energy than any other workloads…

[@ibraheem1224]

@@silliesttitan7668 He didn't play LoL. In case you didn't notice, he launched the game and then closed it.

[@TheUrbanRebel]

It's a hard sell for the snapdragon. Not that it's not a good processor, but the compatibility issues is the decisive dealbreaker. Apple could do it because they have complete control over hardware and software, but for Microsoft/ARM devices it's a different story. The news is Intel and AMD are joining forces to defend the x86 architecture. As long as there is x86 processors in the future, developers won't take porting software for ARM processors seriously.

[@denvernaicker8250]

your review style misinforms the viewer in different directions, it is marginal in all areas and yet over excited in small minuscule gains, this over hypes a product.

[@herewegoagain7403]

Lunar Lake wins

[@DT-vc7hd]

Meh... it's apples to oranges right now. The Snapdragon products are for a more narrow segment of consumers whereas Lunar Lake is the more appropriate choice for most. That may change in the future, but I'd be really careful about spending that much money if the product doesn't meet your needs today.

[@D.u.d.e.r]

Lunar Lake is Intel's response not just to Qualcomm's X-Elite/Plus chips, but primarily to the Apple's Mx series chips which they copy with the RAM on package. Obviously the result of that effort is successful and we can now see x86 CISC chips almost as efficient as Arm RISC counterparts while offering unprecedented legacy support. Competition is good😉👍

[@xperiafan5370]

9:32 Should be bc of anticheat. Anticheat is not yet supported on ARM PC chips.

[@Betancourtdm]

I like the renewed emphasis on Windows machines on the channel. It was tooooooo much Apple for an extended period of time. Keep it up.

[@ContraVsGigi]

With the malicious acts by Msoft, I'd like to see some Linux, too. I see some people moving to Linux in this period, for good reasons.

[@akin242002]

Well Intel was slacking off the last year. I did like Intel 12th gen CPUs. Not efficient, but powerful if you work an office job and are rarely unplugged.

[@SuperMachead1]

Does anyone see the obvious fact that all these chips are now manufactured by TSMC ….M4….Elite…Lunar Lake and AMD’s chips…and they all perform about the same …just different designs 🤔

[@maxweinbach3996]

Have you noticed that Apple has destroyed the competition?

[@kjellbeats]

​@@maxweinbach3996its not as big of a lead as y'all make it seem.

[@jonathanng138]

​@@kjellbeatsIt's pretty big a M1 from 2021 still beats a 2024 Lunar Lake

[@fidelisitor8953]

It's not a matter of performance, it's a matter of efficiency and performance per watt which Apple has all the competition beat.

[@kirby21-xz4rx]

​@@jonathanng138I will agree with that, lunar lake sucks and Intel needs to stop lying and gaslighting us to try and make us believe x86 has caught up anywhere close to arm in performance to efficiency because every time they fail and I just laugh at people who actually believe Intel claims at this point, when they screw us over and over again yet people still trust them

[@maxweinbach3996]

Question - what is the best design studio based out of California?

[@fidelisitor8953]

500 designs 😂

[@erkil1996]

What a punch in the face for the people that bought an Snapdragon laptop...

[@erkil1996]

Including me

[@King-Julz]

​@@erkil1996well unless you're having compatibility issues then you got slightly better battery and significantly better multi core performance. If you have compatibility issues then yeah it stings a bit more

[@segoiii]

it was known for years that LunarLake could be a gamechanger for Intel.

[@ContraVsGigi]

You should run what people run on these machines, as they are light and small laptops. And who renders on the CPU? Use GPU rendering for a real world test.

[@sehajgupta8027]

Why there was no coding, photo and video editing benchmark ?

[@sameersheriff7078]

cuz in snapdragon theres a possiblity of not being able to do those due lack of software support for ARM !!!

[@Rusty01]

@@sameersheriff7078 supoorts Davinci resolve

[@Rusty01]

if u want coding wathc Alex Ziskind he did a battery test with all laptops (althoughnot the newer lunar lake )

[@hajjdawood]

@@sameersheriff7078 That's not true for coding and video editing all the apps I am aware of run natively on ARM

[@sydguitar99]

I'm excited for the xps 14 with lunar lake, the larger chassis should allow for better thermal headroom and longer battery life.

[@akin242002]

Plus, Dell XPS 14 has the Nvidia RTX 4060 GPU to cover GPU intensive work and some gaming on the side. The CPU side should preserve the battery longer.

[@sameersheriff7078]

x86 is the gold standard when it comes to windows and these ARM based ones are just made to rival apple aiming at disrupting their market but its on course of getting backfired sooner than expected !!!

[@christianr.5868]

Not really, this is like the only chip that’s actually efficient

[@Naturelover-nl24]

compare m3 air vs lunar lake with 16gb ram 512gb ssd if you can also keep x elite.

[@frankgu]

If you need x86 compatibility and energy efficient, go for Lunar Lake. If you care less about x86 compatibility, go for an M series MacBook. It has much more native programs than Arm based Windows laptops as well as better emulation performance. Even the game performance is better on M3 Macs than X Elite.

[@kallaway1]

Both chips are looking fantastic. I am seeing some VERY deep discounts on X Elite laptops at Best Buy from time to time (like the Slim 7x for $800) that have won me over. Saving $600 over the Lunar Lake competitors was a good trade off for the app compatibility.

[@Unizuka]

let's wait and see how arm laptops go (software wise and also the new rumored nvidia/mediatek chips coming out in 2025) , but for now, Lunar lake is my go to chip

[@regalblack1503]

Intel has done a great job 👍 it can run any game I would choose Intel any day

[@RemofRenaissance]

pNot going to lie, watching this on my Snapdragon X Plus surface Pro and kind of worried. I think Lunar lake took the win here personally but still happy with what I’ve got. I hope ARM on windows continues to take off and maybe can coexist with X84. For my use case the X Plus and X Elite chips are real good I think Skype is the only app not running native. Thanks for the content 👍🏾

[@siddharthcs4827]

i actually made my father buy the xps 13 and he absolutely loves the portability, screen, and almost evrything of it, great laptop, dell has done a good job with the new one too

[@akin242002]

I'd rather take the Dell XPS 13 Lunar Lake because it has full X86 software compatibility and Thunderbolt 4 ports (guaranteed floor of 32 Gbps data transfer speed). In all fairness, the Snapdragon X Elite destroys it in multi-core CPU performance by over 30%. If someone wants to stay with general web browsing and limited work apps (please double check), then this might be the better long-term option. Apps and software that work: Python, C#, Visual Studio IDE, Visual Studio code, Office 365 apps, Power BI, Azure Cloud, Brave browser, and Edge browser.

[@seanvideoediting]

Wouldve loved to see a video editing benchmark as well :D

[@Betancourtdm]

Very random, but I can't get Steel Nomad to work on any laptop with a discreet GPU. It always errors out when it loads. Weird.

[@mukukakondowe5939]

I wonder why Gerald William III left apple to build SOCs for Qualcomm. Whatever his reasons are thank you for helping windows with such efficient chips.

[@MaksRybalchenko]

Really nice test in general but… For me and as a programmer I would like to see tests related to software development, compiling,code execution time etc.

[@karolm.4783]

Im looking for more 14inch amd xh 370 laptops review. Max tech could you add to your review how laptops behave with 2 external monitors 4k plus 1080p ? No one doing that but I think it could be interesting to benchmark laptops with external monitors and how performance drop due to higher resolutions (combining displays). Best regards.

[@snarfbot]

snapdragon costs 899 as compared to 1399 for the 258v at best buy right now. pretty decent for the money honestly

[@kartikpintu]

Question: why is sanpdragon selling for less? Answer: Supply and demand.

[@lexmeg5783]

I was waiting for this 🔥🔥

[@RyanParreno]

Yeah, Lunar Lake catching up to Snapdragon X means people will notice compatibility more than performance

[@charmingarpit1982]

Can you also compare Lunar Lake with Meteor Lake Dell XPS?

[@kalpanajagarlamudi8795]

Pls test them again when we 24h2 update arrives only the it is a fair comparision

[@christianr.5868]

How’s lunar lake performance unplugged? Any significant hit?

[@HDRPC]

He did alll test on battery

[@porchourngchuor3567]

if I change to a new pc, I'll choose intel because of software compatibility.

[@kwanpakshing]

I just love this channel

[@PrinceZiim]

Bro no dell did not do a good job on the xps, the lack of physical function keys kills it for me and no physical escape key is pretty much a no go for the field I work in, they could have kept the physical esc and function keys and put a fancy Haptic Touch Bar above I guess but not this

[@ahmedal-maamari3305]

When in sleep/standby which one consume more battery

[@kiwichess]

For me both showed similar performance. Battery definitely speaks for xelite but until snapdragon works on linux I ain't buying that.

[@Yusufyusuf-lh3dw]

Battery life is really close. I dont see a reason to go for one or the other based on Battery life.

[@SilkBistini]

Thanks for this test ! Do you think you could make something a LOT of people thinking about snapdragon : The "Snappiness" ? Would that be possible to make a small VS on that part (don't know how). That's would be great !!! Thanks a lot for all of this.

[@512Bytes]

That's why competition is so important! Intel and AMD were years selling underpowered processors for ridiculous prices, and now they had to catch up.

[@gitcypherous]

Looking forward to that delicious Core Ultra Series 2 Surface Pro!

[@HDRPC]

Yes it is coming very soon.

[@AyoHues]

Woah!!! You need to tell people that Snapdragon just cancelled their developer kit for the X Elite! This was already *six months* late and they pulled it *2 days* after it had finally gone out. This is a HUGE DEAL as it is a massive setback for Windows on ARM development by third party developers that are supposed to be developing their applications & games etc to make the X Elite able to run more of them. This pushes that availability back by many many months - well into next year in many cases. This means all these launch Snapdragon laptops are lame ducks and not really worth buying. Get a Lunar Lake laptop instead and enjoy similar extended battery life without any compatibility issues. Snapdragon have really blown the launch. It will be next year and the next generation of X Elite CPUs before this situation will likely improve. You guys should make a new video to address this - people are going to be pissed after all the Snapdragon hype. Anyone that bought a Snapdragon laptop at those inflated launch prices has got badly burned.

[@AyoHues]

@Garrus-w2h Did you watch Jeff Geerling’s Dev Kit review yet? 😏

[@kallaway1]

This is all false. The point of the dev kit is to give devs something to test on before consumer stuff comes out. Now that snapdragon laptops are readily available the dev kit has no purpose. It does NOT mean developers can’t make ARM apps anymore.

[@AyoHues]

@Garrus-w2h that’s not my point. Snapdragon launched all the X Elite Co-Pilot laptops showing logos of apps and games that it said were being developed for Windows on ARM and that has been proven to have been untrue to a great extent. The laptops themselves have many strong points - I seriously considered buying a Surface myself. But as every reviewer has pointed out, their major limitation currently is the non-availability of enough compatible software. What is becoming apparent is that 3rd party developers are like 6-9mths behind where they should be and support from Snapdragon and Microsoft has simply not been forthcoming. This means laptop owners won’t see many of these games and applications until later next year which means they are much less desirable now. So anyone in the market should get an x86 laptop instead or wait a year and see how the compatibility situation improves. Either way, expect these launch laptops to be heavily discounted in the next few months.

[@AyoHues]

@@kallaway1 The dev kit is meant to be a way more useful platform than the consumer laptops which is why Snapdragon persevered with it months after the consumer launch and why devs kept their orders in for it. Watch Jeff Geerling’s video for more info as he covers all these points in great detail.

[@ContraVsGigi]

​@Garrus-w2hYeah, tell the guy above that cannot use his printer that the compatibility is great.

[@Steve-j4n1e]

X Elite is decently. But I would never get Windows device without x86 😅

[@hinrei1986]

Does X Elite run full version of MS Excel?

[@rowaystarco]

Of course.

[@arslanahmed1051]

u should also test x86 chips on charger after battery test because x86 runs better plugged in

[@arcudev9125]

whats about the battery life, if i install linux on it and only watch youtube on it? how long will the battery last before it is empty? ty guys

[@obinnaokafor6252]

Kindly compel your game vendors to have excellent support for ARM64.

[@befit40]

Can you do a real-life review of Asus Vivobook S with Snapdragon X1P-42-100 with 8 cores.

[@r0galik]

Something is wrong with framerate in this video

[@timmeeyh6523]

so my intel stock might bounce back?

[@melvinvanhuet5765]

What kind of iphone case are you using?

[@roshanlalverma340]

X86 chip what a come back

[@roshanlalverma340]

@Garrus-w2h good luck for gaming .

[@sameersheriff7078]

These don't translate much in real-time use, and even if one is slower than its counterpart, it's lots better than not having apps support for most of our use cases!

[@r9thegoat-z9k]

​​@Garrus-w2h can run more games on a new machine than on an old one? Duh... Also lunar lake is atleast 30%+ faster than your old thin and light laptop to play games. It is faster than Qualcomm to play games. Idk what you are even trying to talk about

[@kartikpintu]

​@Garrus-w2hfirst of all, wildlife is more of an arm thing. Second intel gpu is objectively better. Plus has more compatibility. I know why you'd defend arm because you just bought one so you are coping. It's fine but don't twist teh facts. Plus games care more about single core performance than multicore. Productivity apps need multicore.

[@kartikpintu]

​@Garrus-w2hfirst of all, wildlife is more of an arm thing. Second intel gpu is objectively better. Plus has more compatibility. I know why you'd defend arm because you just bought one so you are coping. It's fine but don't twist teh facts. Plus games care more about single core performance than multicore. Productivity apps need multicore.

[@gitcypherous]

It's also worth noting that Samsung discounted their 14" Snapdragon laptop to like $799. That definitely changes things.

[@Felix-misc]

So..... A 12 core Snapdragon processor versus an 8 core Intel processor? And then the difference between Intel's 4 efficiency cores and 4 performance cores versus 12 performance cores in Snapdragon? These chips are so different why are they even being compared? Also a 3% difference in battery remaining at the end of your test is not notable at all why are you making a big deal about it?

[@ibraheem1224]

They are being tested because they are the latest and best offerings from each company currently in the market.

[@Yusufyusuf-lh3dw]

Multi threaded cpu performance scores are not very relevant for laptop users. I also didn't feel that the 3% difference in battery is going to matter for most users. In my books, Snapdragon is a DOA, unfortunately.

[@mannkeithc]

Excellent comparison and very objective assessment. I like arm processors and was able to get many of the games I like to play to run on the previous generation Snapdragon 8cx Gen 3 SoC which has around 50% of the performance of a Snapdragon X Elite, but the choice really does come down to applications you run, and if x86 / x64 compatibility matters, Lunar Lake has to be the choice for the present. App compatibility with arm processors should improve, but I am really surprised that Microsoft and Qualcomm don't appear to be making a lot more effort with regards this, especially now Qualcomm's Snapdragon X Elite Dev Kit has been cancelled over production issues.

[@TechLiberator]

But can it run Silent Hill 2 Remake? Lunar Lake can.

[@LittlePenguin1-17]

(5:15) Bro playing War Thunder! Love that Game!

[@MobileDecay]

Arm is not the savior. I think there's a misconception with this. People think Arm has better battery because they use it for simple tasks and watered down versions of the same thing that are optimized for phones and tablets so they assume arm is better for battery life. However if you try to run the exact same os and apps then you will get worse or the same battery life.

[@lesjoursavenir9713]

please do also FL studio tests for Windows laptops

[@NissiHalunajan]

Basic usual day usage (not running benchmark tests or stress tests) the lunar lake gets arguably better battery life and overall better experience as it has no problem with games and apps. Itll take a while for snapdragon to catch up in compatibility. Lunar lake all the way as its amazing performance when not directly compared, arguably better battery life and comprable to apple silicon and there are no compatibility issues

[@ArbazAbid]

For 90% of apps you also need to avoid ARM based chip for at least 5 years. Luner lake is way to go into 2025.

[@oscarmurillo2200]

I returned one of these a year ago because it got crazy hot on the surface. Needless to say about the underneath. I wonder if it has improved since then.

[@BolusTube]

Lunar lake is absolutely different Intel chip, its uses TSMC 3nm just like Apple M3, runs ultra cool with insane battery life.

[@BBPROP_TR]

Hey you are using 256V. 288V is faster.

[@HDRPC]

Yes

[@mariobrunettin8338]

Windows 11 24H2?

[@unCoopervised]

I’m still begging someone to do a comparison of Windows running in Parallels on an M3 Pro MacBook Pro allocated similar specs to a Snapdragon Windows laptop. So a MacBook Pro M3 Pro with 32 GB of RAM, 16 dedicated to Windows. A Snapdragon Arm laptop with 16 gigs of RAM. And dedicate the same number of cores in the CPU and GPU or as close as possible.

[@sahandehteshami7404]

Can’t believe an ipad that costs 400 dollars less wipes the floor with both of them

[@Jimmyfly215]

i own a MacBook Pro m3 Pro 16 inch and a Surface Pro 11 with a Snapdragon. All i need is efficiency and more important battery life. Heavier work i push to my MacBook, but a lot of these chips with windows have truly improved with power and efficiency. And battery life obviously is amazing

[@carloslemos6919]

The whole "ARM is better because x, y, z ..." thing is over.

[@andrewbroadfort6856]

Excellent video apart from the audio level of the host. Very loud. Had to lower volume immediately.

[@prnva_]

XElite is really good, Qualcom needs to sort out comparability issues and graphics performance in next generation.

[@rowaystarco]

There's already test versions of the Prism emulator (windows 11) that improves combatiblity for a bunch of software and games. Support for AVX, AVX2 and a bunch more. So Microsoft is working on compatibilty.

[@mutovkin]

Would be great to have “geek” section at the end of the videos where you install Linux distribution and run Phoronix set of tests. If I want this machine for work not for mindless games - that content pretty much does not exist.

[@LaxmannDhotre]

10:49 uhhh, you ran the game for a while on that

Just to put the "slow" 10.582 multicore CPU geekbench into perspektive: My 2019 Macbook pro (last and biggest Intel chip) scores at 6.468 with 8 cores and 16 threads (i9 2,4). And this thing is not slow. Don't talk about overheating. ;-) But not slow. So 10.582 would mean almost 40% more multicore performance. And for single core it is even double as fast. 1376 (2019 Macbook) vs. 2731 on the Lunar Lake. And the Lunar Lake is not the top of the line in this video. So: I am impressed!

[@xperiafan5370]

But the Lunar Lake is 3nm isn't it?! Guess X86 is still inferior to arm in terms of IPC and efficiency.

[@sameersheriff7078]

doesnt matter tho !!! willing to take those trade offs rather than stuck without app support !!!

[@ibraheem1224]

@@xperiafan5370 X86 will never match ARM in terms of IPC and efficiency. Just wait till 2025 when Nvidia releases their ARM PC chip in collaboration with Mediatek and Qualcomm releases Snapdragon X Elite 2. Intel's days are numbered. The only thing it has going for it is app compatibility (which will change next year when Nvidia joins the ARM PC market).

[@kartikpintu]

​@@ibraheem1224wow another hater with no substance

[@1974best]

can it run crysis?

[@user-zn1db9fe5w]

But the battery and heat is in another league in arm.

[@crazycube32]

Imagine Lunar Lake on Windows tablets or even phones!