M4 MacBooks have LEAKED - R.I.P. Windows Laptops?!

[@MaxTechOfficial]

M3 MacBook Air 13" ➡ geni.us/NmOB M3 MacBook Air 15" ➡ geni.us/kMpdm M3 14" MacBook Pro ➡ geni.us/qk6qhg 14" M3 Pro/Max MacBook Pro ➡ geni.us/GJYD 16" M3 Pro/Max MacBook Pro ➡ geni.us/rHnvP M2 MacBook Air ➡ geni.us/Kg6bwJ

[@user-dp8dr4wl8z]

No prediction of M4 Pro and Max performance this year guys?

[@manoharmeka999]

By the time M4 Pros are out, iPad Pro will already be on M5 with equivalent performance. Bad apple.

[@davidgordon7457]

cut to 1 week after release with the "Why you shouldn't upgrade to the new M4 video, where they talk about how powerful the M4 is but how the M1 macs are still more powerfull than anything you need for 99% of most peoples everyday work scenarios.

[@VAIBHAVFURY]

dude thats so damn accurate 🤣🤣

[@N-VAMusic]

Gotta keep that content train ROLLLLLLINNNNNNN

[@VAIBHAVFURY]

@@N-VAMusic 😅 yeah i agree but that 99% of people line was hilarious

[@maxrobespierre9176]

I do love my M1 Air.

[@VAIBHAVFURY]

@@maxrobespierre9176 bruh I'm getting a great offer on macbook pro 16inch , should I buy it or go for m2 pro 14inch cause it feels pretty scary to buy a 2021 released laptop.

[@MysterCannabis]

Now watch them charging 200 dollars for 6Gb ram upgrade

[@mr.mysterious7940]

Sure it’s expensive, but it’s the closest you’ll get to downloading more ram.

[@noisetin]

Hopefully 12->20->28 or 12->24->36

[@chidorirasenganz]

@@noisetinthat’s what I’m thinking it’ll be

[@noisetin]

@@chidorirasenganz If 12->18->24 it will be disapointing

[@tivtag]

@@noisetinNeed 64gb ram

[@stenlionel3029]

Not really a leak info, just a comparison between the exiting chips

[@northwing3416]

Thank you. Saved minutes on my life.

[@deepchillzone]

Consumers: ''We want 16 gig of Ram! 8 isn't enough!" Apple:" we hear ya, here's 12 gig for our new m4 laptop" Consumers: "Apple are you f#cking trolling us?"

[@fitzman7]

Plus, the AI stuff is supposedly going to use those additional 4gigs of ram so you're still only getting 8gigs.

[@federicosveglia7082]

Apple: yes

[@TimAZ-ih7yb]

It’s 12GB because of the memory controller design. Intel did the same thing with their high-end server CPUs.

[@chidorirasenganz]

Actually for basic uses and even entry level 3d rendering and gaming only need 12gb (more than 8gb to be specific) also if the base is bumped up that means the next tiers will be higher. I’m expecting at least ~20gb then around ~30 which is a lot more than what we have now

[@StefanoBergamini]

​@@chidorirasenganzlet's talk 5 years from now how enough are 12 gigs 😂

[@johnnydoe3603]

Hope they Upgrade to 16 GB RAM. Even my Burner Phone has more RAM than my MacBook Pro. 🤣🤣

[@IngriqiDin]

same amount of RAM does not mean same amount of efficiency

[@joseaugustodossantossilva5495]

​@@IngriqiDin the price I have to pay for knowing how to read

[@Rojfos]

@@IngriqiDin whoever says they need more than 4GB be lying! Besides, ram is heavy, no one will cary like 5GB of ram with them anyways sooooo, yea,,

[@nvduk3]

@@Rojfos4 gig ram in a laptop is enough you say? Nice 🤣🤣

[@jarosawmalinowski7861]

@@Rojfos maybe 640kB is enough?

[@udf423]

The second that Apple starts using a dedicated GPU, windows is cooked

[@urito18]

But dGPUs will dissapear in the next decade. Look at PS5, XBox, SD, the trend and need is efficiency over raw power.

[@rotors_taker_0h]

M4 Air with 120Hz display is all I need.

[@CFC.NobarR]

120Hz will never come to the Air. 120Hz has been available on the iPad Pro since 2017 and still isn’t on the iPad Air. Dont ever expect promotion to come to the MacBook Air or standard iPhone. Only on the Pros.

[@rotors_taker_0h]

@@CFC.NobarR well, I don't think that never is actual timeframe there. It will come when it will be just shameful to have one of the fairly visible features to be worse than competitive budget devices, i.e. when people will start notice that Airs really had this jagged feeling for some reason. This will probably happen when average device surrounding average people get 120Hz (or higher). Maybe when Pros migrate to 240Hz or higher, who knows. But it will happen eventually. Just many years overdue as usual for Apple.

[@rotors_taker_0h]

Like how we got usb-c eventually, calculator, T9 and a flurry of other QoL improvements all of the sudden.

[@classicarcadeamusementpark4242]

All you need for 5 minutes, until a PC quickly beats it out. And then it flips back to Mac as the faster, than back to PC as the fastest. It's a never ending game.

[@rotors_taker_0h]

@@classicarcadeamusementpark4242 well, 4 years after original M1 release and PCs are still nowhere close to beating an overall package.

[@comrade_rahul_1]

If Apple could make the upgrade increment difference around $100 instead of $200 would've been so much better. $200 is too much. I'd upgrade from 12 to 24 if that would happen but I know it won't happen.

[@comrade_rahul_1]

Especially that those are converted to Indian Currency accurately. They just multiply by 100*. That's a lot of cost for one upgrade. Edit: It's not 10, it's 100. Forgot the 0.

[@pumpkinut5314]

They shouldn't even have the option to upgrade. 8GB is just straight up scam

[@mrdev5281]

NOTHING MORE ANNOYING than to see graphics put on the screen for less than 2 seconds for the eyes to read .Pleas STOP Doing that !

[@dxdyd0]

cheap trick for retention rate i belive

[@mymusic5772]

My thoughts.When I see Apples fees on upgrading the Ram or hard drive,then I will make a decision.Apples profits are shocking,and it’s down to pure greed.

[@TamasKiss-yk4st]

Even the SSD is more expensive like the HDD, and the upgrade of the SSD also cost more like to upgrade the HDD.. because you can't understand their 120GB/s in the basic M4 chip is equal with a quad channel DDR5 and a PCIe 6.0 x16 slot for the GPU.. moreover the 400GB/s in M3 Max is even bigger difference like the 30-40GB/s RAM in Windows laptops or like the 32GB/s limited PCIe 4.0 x16 slot where you plug the GPU and it's communivating on that speed with the system.. (30-40GB/s vs 120GB/s is about equal like the regular HDD with 150MB/s vs the early SATA SSD with 550MB/s transfer speed limit, it's "only" 3-4x faster, but it's more expensive..)

[@Rojfos]

@@TamasKiss-yk4st what have i just read?! wtf?

[@Aethid]

@@TamasKiss-yk4stThe on-SoC memory makes memory *cheaper* for Apple than buying 3rd party chips would cost, so this only makes it all the more egregious. There is nothing at all special about the SSD in a MacBook, and Apple are charging about an 800% markup to upgrade to a useable amount of storage capacity. It costs Apple a few extra dollars to use higher capacity NAND chips.

[@jarosawmalinowski7861]

@@TamasKiss-yk4st SSD in macs is slow - check rating for small files, it's like from gen2 nvme, and now is gen5, for big files is also really slow - nvme drives are at least 2x faster than ssd in macs.

[@anthonyolivieri413]

I firmly believe that we are at a point where constantly “updating” technology 99% of people won’t notice a difference between the older version and newer. These should be in a 3 year cycle

[@AaronLin-pp6hp]

"biggest upgrade since m1 came out" but the tech guys are going to say its not worth it💀

[@alfreezer4134]

Now the minimum comfortable amount of RAM is 24 GB, the recommended 32. These 12 GB on a premium laptop are ridiculous. Memory costs nothing. And they don't even allow you to upgrade this memory. They don't allow you to upgrade your drives. I'm interested in ARM for Linux, so I'll prefer the upcoming X Elite on ARMv9 or Nvidia (if they release it). The option from Nvidia will be ideal for working on Windows. Let them sit with their 12 GB and 256 ROM in 2024. It's surreal. And as far as I understand, “Air” will still be without active cooling and this is pathetic.

[@Couch987]

Is 18 GB not enough?

[@swipekonme]

true that, their justification is of course: it's an soc so non upgradeable and macos is a different animal (doubtful), the future is linux on risc-v, but that can't be walled in, or can it be

[@paulmaine]

I just bought a laptop with 8GB ram 🥴

[@davidramsay9163]

In which realm is 24gb of ram the minimum? If someone only uses their computer for word processing, spreadsheets, browsing and emails Why do I need 24? This is a horrible take

[@richard.20000]

M1 Air from 2020 is still a beast and by performance it smokes every Windows laptop of my colleagues. Silently running on battery all day while they have to fight cables every morning. Another amazing thing how they have to wait several minutes to boot Windows while me just opens lid and OS is instant there. 😀 MacBook Air is absolute brilliant machine still.

[@Cooper3312000]

I just bought and returned the 16in MBP M3 MAX I just can't retire my 2017 15" MBP with Touch Bar it's still working fine and can't justify replacing it yet. Plus I'm one of the few that likes the Touch Bar and use it all of the time. A few upgrades I'm waiting for like getting of the notch tandem OLED screen like iPad PRO, Thunderbolt 5, Faster internal GEN5 PCIE speed storage, WiFi 7, Thinner body. To make another attempt to replace my 2017 MBP.

[@RajKotecha]

I’ll be going from a 2019 Intel to the M4

[@richieb74]

Huh? Is the m4 pro or air coming this year? You said air is coming out this fall and in the spring

[@iamawkwardd4773]

Still going strong with my MacBook air m1 (bought in 2021)

[@ruhri0411]

Hope they bring back space grey for the pro pro model. The silver one is too bright and the black one is still a fingerprint magnet. Space grey was always perfect for me!

[@Khemani_RL]

I always thought the same too! I just love the space grey colour. It was the perfect in-between

[@PersonSuit]

Definitely looking forward to M4 Macs though mostly the desktops. Sure the M4 Macbook Pro will probably be pretty great, but if you already have a M1 or later MBP, I can't really imagine a need to upgrade the laptop. Getting a Studio M4 Ultra where you can really peg the CPU & GPU and it still runs completely silent while still having my M1Max MBP for on the go feels like the perfect sweet spot. Guess I'll be waiting till next summer...

[@mizzouche2006]

Benchmark charts are impossible to digest as fast as they are presented in this video

[@pfitzpa1]

When are you doing iPad Pro vs surface pro review that you teased us several weeks back.

[@NoOne-uh9vu]

The Pros in Fall? What's the source for that?

[@GlobalWave1]

That’s how it’s been the last few years. Yearly refresh in the fall unless we are expecting something different.

[@jessicaalvis7063]

Mark Gurman says they come in late Q4.

[@PKperformanceEU]

Hope so. Waiting to get my hands on a m4pro 14inch

[@thebuddercweeper]

@@jessicaalvis7063 Ross Young is more accurate than Mark Gurman.

[@steveseidel9967]

@@thebuddercweeper Ross Young only has information on displays.

[@sweealamak628]

Can't wait for a 12GB RAM M4 Air

[@weekendintokyo]

It's not gonna happen, look at the m4 chip in the ipad pro

[@VincentLeong-bb4vn]

It is gonna happen I think, people tarred down the iPad Pro and saw 12GB of RAM on the 8GB model, they just disabled the extra RAM on the iPad Pro probably to sell the 16GB models

[@Noah-xn5th]

The 16GB RAM isnt even advertised, so no

[@lenn55]

Still waiting for the M4 Pro Mac Mini.........

[@skyjager5132]

Tomorrow i’ll boy a quite new MacBook Air m1 for 450€, i Think with this price it would be still really good since I don’t need astonishing performance.

[@elcasho]

Please use release months, not release seasons. The world has seasons very differently in different areas

[@TazzSmk]

november, happy? xD

[@JuicyJohnEV]

@@TazzSmkI thought the fall meant autumn in America which to me means September/October! Hence, the confusion 😂

[@CodySmiley]

You have winter in summer or what?

[@leondodig9574]

@@CodySmileyNovember is Spring/Sumer in the southern Hemisphere lol

[@naveenbalajiviswanathan5389]

Will there be touchscreen on MacBook like thinkpad?

[@dexgray4581]

Honestly, I just want the tandem 0LED displays with an M4 MacBook Pro and I’m sold. Otherwise I’ll get something cheap like an M2 MacBook Air and wait. Once I saw the OLED m4 iPad Pro in person, I couldn’t believe the difference! I’m not buying a premium machine until they finally get OLED panels on the MacBook. I never use HDR… But 1000 nits SDR is incredible.

[@professionalaesthetics]

6:45 “two external displays on MacBook Air” the display support on these chips is major and is finally catching up to what Intel Macs used to offer. I want to see refresh rate above 60 hz supported with thunderbolt. Sucks if you have a sweet monitor with 144 hz and you can’t just pop the thunderbolt cable on. Using thunderbolt plus hdmi feels so 2015 or something.

[@SaiyanJin85]

But not Face ID , seriously? No comments on that?

[@readytogo5905]

Same. I hope they can shorten the bangs if they have no intention to put face id on macbook

[@ricarmig]

​@@VincentLeong-bb4vn no it's not, if you use an iPhone or used a Surface, Face ID (or similar) are the best thing around.

[@ubitosh]

@@VincentLeong-bb4vnsoooo disagree bud. Face ID is huge for those who want multi monitor setup and external keyboard. I’d love to just turn my face to the laptop for logins

[@chris-jh4cx]

Time to update my MacBook Pro from 2013

[@KevinOlson-io3dm]

Yeah, I finally retired my 2015 version and there is a phenomenal improvment with the newerM chips. You won't regret it!

[@GadgetsArise]

If they are going to increase the base RAM from 8 to 12 GB, then I'm pretty sure the price is gonna go up as well.

[@ricarmig]

Naturally, it's Apple

[@pieterboots8566]

Amd AI 300 Windows laptop has 50 TFLOPs I believe. I don't know how this compares with the 40 TFLOPS of the M4 precision wise.

[@jeeeeeefff]

*2 days after the chip was released. Max Tech: Why we were wrong!

[@ToneysReviews]

Windows laptops will never die off as long as Mac are still shit at gaming

[@mendoza9007]

Fr

[@TechTVusa]

According to the article the manufactured panels will be ready this Fall (Q3) but the M4 will launch late this year Q4. Lunar Lake is supposed to launch Q3. Might as well wait until then to do anymore videos.

[@nickvogelius]

KZbin's creative solutions with cooling pads clearly show how little they know about the subject. One thing is that they destroy their battery, but another is that they make their computer directly illegal to sell again. There are strict values ​​for how hot a laptop can become. That's why there is "heat-reflecting" foil on the back of the bottom plate on most Alu' laptops. You don't want the heat transferred into the cabinet itself. The iPad is slightly different as only the logo acts as a heatsink and btw without any direct connection to the CPU. It is only there to help with cooling, and is therefore not connected in the form of cooling paste or Heat pipes. which would make the logo so hot that it exceeds the limit values

[@johngwheeler]

Where was the “leak” in this video? Clickbait!

[@Mike_GA]

Yes please, 14" MacBook Pro with a M4 Pro chipset, (4) Thunderbolt 5 ports, HDMI, Ethernet and Magsafe. How about an Apple docking station connecting via 2 Thunderbolt 5 ports near the rear left/right corners of the machine.

[@hyperpedro2868]

Now chips are getting way better on Windows, you appreciate more 120hz touchscreens, upgradable SSD, and cheap upgrades. No expectation on this from Apple. Still expect a lovely $800 price to upgrade to a 2 To SSD.

[@lenn55]

Since the X Elite and future chips will be very good at multi CPU stuff Apple should concentrate more on increasing the GPU power of the M series in order to keep their big lead in that. PC users are obsessed with GPU scores so that is a good way to get more PC users to switch to the Mac.

[@ToneysReviews]

And with all that being said, Macs are horrible at gaming. So, GPU scores are pretty useless when the entire architect is useless for max fps gaming

[@lazytv363]

Will my M2 Max 64gb still be ok I want to get the m4 Mac mini with a upgrade to 24gb ram as a test to see the m4 power

[@Rojfos]

anything below 69GB of ram will explode. I i were you, i would run for the hills

[@LibreGlider]

If you have to ask, you dont need new equipment.

[@NeelMani-nq6xg]

Time to scrap the notch in MacBooks. iPad m4 has both pencil charging and Face ID in that bezel.

[@tomaszcodasz]

I hope they will get rid of notch, there are rumours they have smaller camera modules

[@murdockscott]

They need to offer a new midrange DESKTOP machine ASAP! I don’t care if it’s M3 (unlikely to happen) or M4. There is no way I am spending premium money on a M2 Mac Studio right now! We had plans to purchase an M3 Mac Studio as soon as it was available as far back as 8 months ago. This was meant to be the powerful desktop machine that would be used by my son during his high school years. It needs to be a desktop, and it was supposed to have the power to inspire him. Also, he of course wants to play games and I need something with the power to satisfy that desire in the face of many of his friends getting ridiculous RGB festooned gaming PCs. It’s kinda ridiculous that it might be another 8-12 months before there is a replacement for the M2 Mac Studio. So very frustrating.

[@Yewbzee]

Totally agree. Their mid to high end strategy is totally nuts. When they eventually release their Ultra chips in the Studios they are superseded a couple of months later by the next M chip generation.

[@tenidas7064]

You're free to ignore this suggestion, but I think a good gaming PC and a Mac mini will be a better combination for your son. Let me explain. Macs have great performance, but they are still atrocious for gaming, and it's not necessarily due to hardware limitations. A lot of the time it's software limitations so you won't be able to play popular games without time consuming and/or expensive workarounds. Therefore for playing games, a PC is the best considering even a lower priced PC can get better performance than an M4 Max machine in a lot of games, and that's if the game is even playable at all on the Mac. For productivity, schoolwork, etc, a base Mac mini should be enough, maybe upgrade the ram to 16gb if needed, because anything too resource intensive can be done on the PC anyway. I also share your hatred for tacky RGB, and there are many ways to create a classier gaming setup, as the one I plan to build is black and white to match my room's white interior. However, keep in mind that white PC components may be more expensive :)

[@murdockscott]

@@tenidas7064 I understand your suggestion and I’m not dismissing it outright (I have considered doing something similar). But a several things make me convinced that it would be the wrong move for our family.

[@tenidas7064]

@@murdockscott that’s fair enough, I’ve seen multiple instances of people buying expensive tech and not using it at all because they’ve got something else that can also do the same thing maybe a bit better or worse. Hope you come to a conclusion and your wait for the ultimate piece of tech pays off. Good luck to you and your son

[@Dreador.]

@@tenidas7064 Its what I did as I couldn't see the point of moving to a very expensive Studio for 4x the cost of a PC that could handle level I needed for gaming (AM02) Im sitting waiting for M4 Mini Pro - I do find Apples strategy damn annoying just get on with it

[@chipcurry]

I'm not sure if I'm the only one, but I don't really know what an efficiency core does. And the multiple cores… What programs use them and which do not use them. I am a video and graphics creative, I use Photoshop and Lightroom, final cut, occasionally after effects, garage band. How do these processors affect me?

[@fmax3000]

MacOS Will utilize the efficiency cores first when you have lighter CPU tasks like web browsing, Office, file management, etc. Efficiency cores are a bit slower and consume less power, so less heat, better battery. When more demanding tasks are sent, the OS Will involve the performance cores that are faster but on the expense of heat and power consumption. On very demanding CPU tasks, the OS will ramp up all cores, performance + efficiency to squeeze the maximum power possible. This CPU architecture design is called (big-little) cores. That's why Apple Silicon is so efficient but also so powerful at the same time. You can use activity monitor or install some tools to Watch which cores are being utilized with each task you throw at. The more P cores you have, the more powerful device at CPU tasks. The more E cores you have, the better battery life you get. Graphics SW usually use GPU more than CPU with custom renderers, shaders, encoders, decoders, etc. But Adobe kept utilizing CPU rather than the GPU in photoshop. So, for Photoshop you need CPU power, better P Cores. For lightroom, You need GPU mostly. For After Effects you need GPU more. For all 3 you need RAM, the more RAM you have, the faster the render, processing and exporting. At least 16GB, better 24GB+ After Effects, 3d programs suck RAM, 64GB is the optimal, but of course they can run on lower RAM. Most programs depend on signle Core performance, thats why Apple Silicon is faster than most of the rest (Intel, AMD and Qualcomm) chips out there, even when they have more cores, because it has much higher signle core speed among other factors like huge CPU cache. Final Cut Pro utilizes multi cores. It's up to the developers to implement how many cores are being utilized. Encoding/ Decoding standard video files like H.264 and H.265 is done by the custom hardware encoders/ decoders on Apple Silicon rather than the GPU, that's why exporting/ converting video is much faster on Apple Silicon than on new ARM PCs. It's faster and leaves the GPU vacant to take other graphics tasks. Same with AI, The Neural Engine cores handle all AI tasks freeing the GPU for other tasks. Hope this is not overwhelming and clarified things.

[@brightboxstudio]

Efficiency cores can’t be as fast as performance cores, but if the efficiency cores can handle the performance needs of the current task, they will do it using much less energy. As MaxTech showed in an earlier video, from M1 to M2 the efficiency cores got much faster without using much more energy so it was a big win for battery life on common tasks, because most tasks don’t need maximum CPU power. macOS also sends background tasks to the efficiency cores because they are lower priority tasks, letting the performance cores concentrate all of their cycles on the processes that need maximum CPU speed.

[@chipcurry]

@@fmax3000 Thanks 1 million for the detailed answer. This demystifies a lot!

[@fmax3000]

@@chipcurry Glad it helped. One last thing, for your kind of work, you can get away with the Pro chip with at last 16GB RAM if you were on a budget or waiting for M4 or M5. But maybe in couple years or so, you’d need more RAM or a better CPU and GPU. For a better performance and longevity, your work needs to be the Max chip with at least 24GB RAM. For the optimal performance, you need 32GB or better 64GB+. And if you don’t mind a desktop, then the base studio with 64GB is the way to go. It’ll last you many years and get your work done more efficiently and faster, with the ability of multi tasking these heavy programs. Chip generation. All Apple Silicon is great. First gen was the best in terms of low power consumption and heat, silence. I don’t advise going to second gen unless you get a great deal. For future proofing and getting the best and most durable, wait for the M4. M3 is much better than M2 as it brought HW RayTracing, custom shaders, etc to the GPU enhancing 3D and render speed for programs that are rewritten to make use of. M4 is topping in that and adding more to the Neural engine with the rush to AI and Apple Intelligence. It’ll show the benefit with new releases of the SW leaning more on AI filters and tasks. Photoshop generative AI and Neural filters, Topaz suite of apps, video editing SW utilising the neural engine, etc M4 is also said to have newly designed GPU from the ground up that is better than the architecture used in M1, M2 and M3. M4 is also built on the new enhanced 3 nanometer process bringing more transistor count, I.e. better performance with less power and heat. It’s the first in the industry. The difference is yet to be seen as we only have it in the new iPad Pros, so we have to wait for the Macs with M4 to be released by the end of this year. I personally have the M1 Pro MacBook Pro, unbinned with 16GB and 1TB since it was as released in Nov 2021. I used it as a desktop in clamshell mode with 2 * 2K 27” monitors. It’s like the machine I dreamt of all my life. Dead silent and cool. It chews everything I throw at, so snappy till now that I don’t need to replace it even after 3-4 years. I’m a computer engineer and a programmer, very deep into tech., and I do work with graphics, audio, video and little bit 3D as part of game dev. I used the Max chip and it’s only noticeably better than the pro in more demanding GPU tasks like heavy After Effect or high number of tracks in video editing with effects and filters. In Photoshop it’s almost the same. Lightroom and after effects suck RAM. 64 makes a big difference compared to 16. I mostly need to upgrade because the pro has only 1 set of video encoders while the max has double that for better concurrent encoding/ decoding tasks. Better in handbrake conversions. For Topaz video AI enhancements, you need more cores, better GPU and most importantly more powerful Neural engine. Hence, I’m mostly planning to upgrade for the Neural engine, in addition to more RAM and more CPU and GPU cores. That’s why I’m waiting for the Studio. And it’s unwise to invest in the M2 Studio ultra at this high price (ultra has double neural engine cores. The max has the same as the pro). With the M4 I’ll get the GPU enhancements came with the M3, which is the HW RayTracing, shaders. Etc. and probably fully redesigned GPU architecture. And the enhanced 3nm process and faster Neural engine. And with the studio I’ll get double neural engine cores, big amount of GPU cores and double the CPU cores compared to the Max and Pro. It’s not cheap at all and it’s not mobile, but working from home makes it suit my needs. And I still have my M1 Pro MacBook Pro for mobility. Sorry again for the long reply, but I liked to share my experience and findings. Wish you get the best deal on the best machine that takes your work to the next level and last you for many years. Fingers crossed. Cheers.

[@DanBires]

Yea an ongoing issue with Logic Pro not utilizing efficiency cores makes want the m1 over all unless you go with the m4 max you get better performance

[@jgooch99]

I would love a 2nd nvme ssd option.

[@sgoody1]

I am using a MacBook Air (13-inch, 2017) 1.8 GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i5, Memory : 8 GB 1600 MHz DDR3, Intel HD Graphics 6000 1536 MB. It still works (maybe a bit glitchy, and slow sometimes) - but not sure how much better a new one would be for me. Do I get an old M1 Air as an interim for a while and will there be a massive difference on mine (and also risking buying a dud with poor battery life or whatever else can go wrong), or wait for the new M4 Air which sounds like it might be out within 6 months, or get an M3 Pro MacBook Pro now, as the best out there at the moment (and like the dark grey colour)? I use the laptop mainly for work, usual stuff eg power point / excel, net surfing and video watching, and would also use for some video and photo editing (Lightroom), but mainly do that on the M3 iMac that I have as my home computer. Any thoughts appreciated.

[@CVX1000]

So they’re still going with the AV-1 media encoder? Gonna have the same video editing export speed for 4 generations in a row now!

[@blacksheep7576]

I just bought an MacBook Pro M3 Max instead of waiting for M4 because the last OS update dropped support on my previous MBP and no longer able to use apps that I needed it for lol

[@jpdemer5]

Currently using an M1 Mini on the desktop, and an M1 Air on the road. It'll be a few years yet before I need to move on to a newer kit, but with support for dual displays, an M4 (or maybe M5 by then) MacBook will be able to replace both. Something as thin and light as an Air having that kind of power is hard to wrap my head around.

[@JJ-fq3dh]

Unless you can get more than 32 g ram in the pro, not worth it

[@Helios.vfx.]

Should i pick up a MacBook for programming or pick up s windows laptop?

[@marcinkowalczyk647]

any news on m4 /m4 pro mini?

[@PKperformanceEU]

Looking forward to get a m4pro

[@fitzman7]

Same here! I've been pushing my 2012 mbp 13 in laptop to the max 😂.

[@PKperformanceEU]

@@fitzman7 i use top of the line 13900H zenbook pro from 2023 and im sick of bad efficiency, and fan noise

[@MorganJoe]

I've been using an 8GB MacBook Air M3 15" for watching content and web browsing and haven't seen any issues, sometimes I do push it and swap kicks in but never noticed it. this is literally for watching anime, KZbin, sending emails and making my big purchases as we all know you can't do those on a phone, its mandatory to make all large purchases on a computer. do I wish it had 16GB? yes, but it doesn't matter for what I'm using it for, personally I've never understood the hate as you can find windows laptops with 8GB ram as well, albeit they are much cheaper but they also come with really slow processors and terrible screens, Apple is a premium brand, I've never had a more premium experience on any other laptop before this one, although I still have a hefty windows desktop with 32GB RAM and an i9, this laptop wows me every day. i can recommend an 8GB MacBook to someone who's facing a similar usecase.whose

[@manuelsoto8028]

Man just take the free RAM upgrade. Its just a matter of asking more, not conforming to less RAM just to be a loyal costumer to a brand.

[@faisalrahman9236]

So according to your usage, 4GB RAM should be more than enough, right? Maybe 2 gigs? Huh? 😒

[@MorganJoe]

@@faisalrahman9236 definitely not, 8GB is the sweet spot for the use cases I explained, 16GB would be an unnecessary expense and all the youtubers telling people "8GB isn't enough", are just salty apple is a premium brand that can command a higher price for similar hardware on windows, Gucci doesn't sell T-Shirts for the same price as Walmart just because people ask, the quality of materials and the image of the brand add to the price of the device as well, I believe people call it the; Apple Tax, don't want to pay it? don't get a MacBook.

[@MorganJoe]

@@manuelsoto8028 I'm no loyal costumer, I've bounced from Mac to Windows for years, but I can't agree when a youtuber says "8GB isn't enough" imagine you've just bought a nice shiny MacBook for school work or for something to keep you occupied at home, and the first video you watch on it is a youtuber telling you you've got a crappy machine. clearly no thought is taken for people who just want to browse the web and watch content. 8GB is enough for normal use, 8GB is even enough for minor heavy use, will you see a bottleneck? yes, will your computer turn off? no. this constant hate on 8GB MacBook's from these creators despite them knowing a majority of MacBooks will be purchased in Base configuration is startling. I'm all for positive movements that create better experience for future users, but we must think about the users who already exist.

[@ricarmig]

You use a $1000 laptop to watch content? ... you know that an iPad Air would allow you to do that and more, right?

[@maartenmidden1651]

As long as M4 laptops not run windows, then it's not a valid option for people who can't or won't switch OS. I tried it before and just liked windows better. I had a Intel MacBook with windows on it 😂

[@skavihekkora5039]

Never heard of Parallels software?

[@FJA---]

The 2 things I wish we'd see: 1: 15" MacBook Air with a binned M4 Pro in it. 2: 15" or 16" M4 iPad Pro. I'd buy both of them as soon as preorders commenced.

[@dirkvanturennout9698]

I bought my m3 macbook pro because it has a beautiful display and great sound quality. If Apple would make a macbook with tandem oled I would consider it!

[@SunsetNova]

Tandem oled screens MacBooks will be released with the launch of M5

[@ShaneTheGeek]

Really well done technical overview and comparison of the new Mac chips. All of these releases are always so nuanced. Just like the iPhone where one model has USB-C 10Gbps speeds on the Pro model but the standard model is USB-C but 480Mbps what a joke. All these little differences can make huge differences on the end user side depending on their workflow/apps.

[@Khemani_RL]

I plan on buying the M4 MacBook Pro 🙌🏾

[@markmitchell5220]

For what's worth, I would like an Air with the standard M4 (efficiency over the power) and the twin layer OLED screen, done. I have a MB Pro and love the screen for it's available brightness (via Vivid) but I don't find myself using the added ports. I believe the Dynamic memory caching works via the OS. My Mac Mini originally struggled with the 8Mb but now shows at least 10% available and mostly above 20%. i'm not a pro user, but I want the best screen possible. Maybe the mini-led screen will trickle down once the M4 Pro's come with the OLED screen. That would work...

[@YoutubeUniverse]

Can yall compare the m4 ipad pro 13 vs the m2 pro 12.9 again, do an updated review because of all the changes

[@mathias2659]

when will the studio come?

[@fitzman7]

Next summer in 2025.

[@marcvanmaastricht4638]

What is your stance on using the M4 iPad with macOS? Not in the wrong Windows-way (with a mouse focussed interface with just touch added) but in an intelligent way: as soon as you attach a screen with USB-C (with PD) and a keyboard, the iPad could instantly switch to macOS…? I know: it would probably hurt MacBook sales in short term, but I think this move would gain a huge amount of people switching to macOS. I mean: what’s the point of buying a windows machine if a MacBook is built into your iPad?

[@justletmesigninokthx]

I got the base model M1 macbook air, performance for music production is amazing.... now I want an M4 👀🤣♥

[@EnderYuceler]

Yh multi displays while most of us is better of with more storage and ram. Base model why?! Can do the same as an iPad so would never buy it. So disappointing, was hoping a bit more then this

[@2muchjpop]

They need to bring back boot camp and support windows for ARM

[@ZaLodowyMur]

If they will offer 12->24->36GB of RAM for the same price as 8-16-24 it will be good value finally!

[@himangshupronoy09]

If m4 air comes with 12 gb Ram base I will take it. If not I will get the m3 with 16.

[@rockyhandsome2755]

200$ and more for RAM or storage upgrade. I don't think apple is charging enough for stupidity of the people. 🤣🤣

[@tkklein]

IF I Was apple and people bought it, why not lol I mean if your the best, then you can charge anything you want.

[@ImranKhan-pm6gd]

Releasing a new chip every year. Makes me think what happens when they stop getting improved? I think after 2-3 more chip releases its going to be peak.

[@theMysticGuy]

Excited for this cz now i can buy the M1 Air with the price cut.

[@classicarcadeamusementpark4242]

I'm sure the tons of PC makers already have chips built near market ready to compete with M4. Apple is generally a company that copies other designs or buys them and tries to take credit for it themselves. It's always quickly a flip flop between PC's & Mac's. Choose the platform you prefer, not which one currently has the faster chips today. It wont' last long, and it's a lot of trouble to switch as you have a big investment in software & your time in learning it. If your switch from a PC to an M4 for better performance, before you blink, PC's will offer faster chips. And the same if your going the opposite direction from a Mac to a PC. For 99% of us, we don't need the absolute fastest performance for our current needs! Buy for what you need.....now.

[@hirunguyen4522]

chips has never been an issue with window or Apple, the issues is 8gb ram and 256 SSD in 2024

[@akin242002]

What is everyone's expectations for the M4 Pro's multi-core performance? Geekbench 6 of course.

[@tomaszwaszka3394]

if they start selling at half price the answer is yes

[@Sacto1654]

I want to see what are the benchmark results when the Windows benchmark programs are re-written to take advantage of the hardware registers of the X Elite SoC.

[@muhammadhaider7579]

Lets suppose if Lunar lake is truly efficient upto 40% as they claimed then does it beat out Apple M3 or x elite in efficiency ??

[@ofermaor]

Can you make a video about expected performance of M4PRO/MAX chips?

[@maxcolvin9209]

Or could they redesign the motherboards in the desktops and laptops to accommodate mutiple SOC’S to increase performance? I’m not a designer

[@gerald1964]

I look forward to seeing improvements with respect to thermal throttling and fan noise for the 14 inch M4 Max. I would actually like to see a 15 inch version of the M4 Pro introduced.

[@skavihekkora5039]

If m4 is not at least 100% faster than what you already have dont waste your money.

[@davidchen4753]

I am glad to know that M4 macbook air will support 2 external displays along with the internal display on. I need 2 external displays and internal displays on simultaneously in my work. The running speed of M2 or M3 macbook air is enough for me. But M3 macbook air cannot support 2 external displays with the internal display on.

[@KevinOlson-io3dm]

You don't "need" two external displays, you want two external displays.

[@rikmeistr46]

What TOPS rating on the M4 chips?

[@Rojfos]

3

[@phanihunt]

If my requirement was to edit 4k footage for youtube videos, what should i buy. Im taking a loan to buy a laptop anyways, should i get a little extra loan and buy a apple mac? How many years would it go for? I currently asus rog that i bought in 2015.

[@KevinOlson-io3dm]

If you are taking out a loan to buy a laptop, you have bigger problems than deciding which MacBook to buy.

[@LinouGertz]

Will Apple only release a 14" Pro and not a 16" too? I want the latter.

[@jubinroy4987]

Maybe we should stick to m3. Ableton only uses performance cores. Not good if it’s number reduces

[@isoperimetrix]

How about we keep the thickness and give us more battery? Maybe more serviceable and upgradeable too? I never hit the advertised battery life on these units.

[@jonathanzepeda1662]

Would you suggest getting the m3 pro macbook pro or waiting for the m4? I do video/[hoto editing

[@BobbyStef]

Where can I get that wallpaper shown

[@fuzzylogicq]

The main reason i would upgrade from my m2 max is for better/faster memory bandwidth (need to blaze through those llms, otherwise i use my MacBook like your typical linux/windows laptop)

[@kaiichinose9590]

Sure the performance is there but unfortunately it’s for productivity. I prefer a laptop that can both be productive and game which apple does not do mainstream. Not a bad thing just wish it could run steam and epic. Power isn’t everything. Kinda like the new m4 iPad Pro.

[@R777-RLM]

The MacBook Air, needs one more USB-C port on the right side. I bought my first MacBook, an MBA15 inch, and I miss the ports of a Windows laptop, especially since I use one of the ports for Ethernet.

[@dkipu266]

Apple needs to make some BULKY ASS SOFTWARE that is just freaky good so that people actually want to upgrade…I have no idea what’s going to justify the hardware upgrades, but when my machine ages out, I’ll be thankful for the boost.

[@syndicate_1]

Bought the M3 pro MacBook pro recently, and i absolutely love it 🥰

[@vl5146]

How much you got it for ? Whats ur say should anyone wait for M4 pro ?

[@syndicate_1]

@@vl5146 i got it for $1725 brand new for an 18gb/512gb variant, i think it’s better to wait for the M4 though but honestly the M series are good even down to the M1 i don’t think you can go wrong with whichever you choose, just don’t buy the 8gb ram variant

[@AndyJMacLeod]

Last year they were saying that Mac’s would have a base of 12Gb unified memory… and that proved to be wrong. So I won’t hold my breath…

[@gambaloni]

Thats a bummer for it being 3 core for base. I do music production as a hobby and the more p cores it has the more tracks it can play. Ghz doesnt matter as much or better way to say it, its powerful enough to not consider it. When it comes out i might push it to a 4 p core model or maybe the M4 pro version.